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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkchen. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkschen. We're

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Speaker 1: recording this on President's Day, So a happy President's Day

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Speaker 1: to you, Dad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to you Jeff. Four Team Tim today. It's

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Speaker 2: one of our easiest team Tim's ever will have the

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Speaker 2: All President's team. This was not They're usually difficult. They're

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Speaker 2: usually a stretch, but it was pretty easy coming up

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Speaker 2: with a team with players whose last name of that

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Speaker 2: of a president. And I understand on President's Day, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: you went to the circus today with McKinley Hope. Huh. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My daughter and I we saw the Ringling Brothers at

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Speaker 1: Exfinity Mobile Live. I believe it is. And ironically, Dad,

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Speaker 1: while I was at Exfinity Mobile Live formerly the Wells

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Speaker 1: Fargo Center in Philadelphia where the Sixers and the Flyers play,

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Speaker 1: the Infinity guy was fixing my internet here at my

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Speaker 1: there and I said, hey, listen, I'm a customer. I

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Speaker 1: would like access to the bathrooms early. I would like

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Speaker 1: frontline on all of the prizes. Dat how much money

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Speaker 1: do you think I spent on parking, food.

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Speaker 3: And gifts for my daughter.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty bus tickets one hundred and fifty bucks.

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Speaker 3: I think I was at just over one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: The cotton candy was eighteen dollars. Nobody told me parenting

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Speaker 2: Jeff, it's so expensive today. I love the circus. I

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Speaker 2: took you kids to the circus a couple times when

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Speaker 2: you were young. I'll never forget Stephen Wright, one of

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Speaker 2: the great one line comedians of all times. He said,

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Speaker 2: have famous clown died Twenty of his clown friends went

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Speaker 2: to the funeral in one car.

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Speaker 1: Dad, I'll never forget you Remember the time we went

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Speaker 1: to go see Cirqua Sola, Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were visiting.

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Speaker 1: Family, and all of us were wearing matching Chuck Taylor's. Now,

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Speaker 1: meaning my sister was, you know, almost twenty and Dad,

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Speaker 1: you told the parking attendant as we drove in, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to the circus, right.

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Speaker 2: And we were going to the she they're parking for

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Speaker 1: Not even technically the circus at Surfu Alay it's a

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: She looked at me like I was cared less.

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Speaker 2: All right. She didn't care, and I didn't care either.

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Speaker 2: But here's what I care about, Jeff. My Baseball Writer's

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Speaker 2: card arrived in the mail today. I started out in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty as number eight hundred and eighty on the

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Speaker 2: Baseball Writer's list. I was number eight eighty and I'm

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Speaker 2: down to number two, which means only twenty one people

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Speaker 2: than I have. And I only bring that up because Jeff.

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Speaker 2: I was number twenty two last year, so I'm twenty

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Speaker 2: two this year, which means what Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Means, you haven't had a chance to murder any of

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Speaker 2: Nobody died in front of me. Is Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: baseball writer Joe falls on road. This is not a

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Speaker 2: race that you want to win. So I got my

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Speaker 2: card in the mail. It's as proud as I am

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Speaker 2: of anything that I do being a part of the

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Speaker 2: Baseball Writers and my card arrived. It's a means for celebration,

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Speaker 3: Very neat.

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Speaker 1: Also, I want to let our listeners know just a

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Speaker 1: little note we're having a deck built in our backyard.

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Speaker 3: We moved to a new house. We're so excited.

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Speaker 1: Guess where that deck connects to the home right behind me.

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Speaker 3: So if you hear any.

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Speaker 1: Knocking or trilling or any sorts of noise, it's not me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not building a birdhouse over here. It is the

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't even get my podcast studio together.

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Speaker 3: I'm all stressed.

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Speaker 1: I'm using a different computer now because my computer won't

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Speaker 3: I sound like you. What is going on with me, Jeff?

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Speaker 2: When you have more technical issues than I do. We're both,

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Speaker 2: We're both. We're in a lot of trouble, all right, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I really got a thrill. I'm writing a story. I'm

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Speaker 2: a baseball story. And Wow, consecutive days I spoke to

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Speaker 2: and Jef Bench is walking by us, and I stopped

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Speaker 2: him and I said, Johnny, can you can you take

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Speaker 2: after ten minutes, I say, Johnny, look, this was great,

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Speaker 2: So he says okay. So he passes his camera to

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Speaker 2: it okay to still get a thrill by that, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's hilarious that arguably the greatest catcher

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Speaker 1: Normally it's the insult when you get handed the camera

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Speaker 1: People are like, hey, Tim, it's great to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I take it for them with you. But for Johnny

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Speaker 3: By the way, Dad, I have a question kind of

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Speaker 1: What is it about photography and baseball players?

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Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Junior, great photographer, Randy Johnson, amazing photographer, Johnny

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Speaker 3: Is it a is it a capturing a moment, great

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Speaker 2: A good question, Jeff. And maybe it is. Maybe when

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Speaker 2: captured so many times. Very interesting question, Jeff. Al McGuire,

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Speaker 2: the great basketball coach used to say, this guy has

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Speaker 3: McGuire, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: And Dad, you know, I thought you were just about

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Speaker 2: Also, Jeff, a shout out to Sam Ravich, our dear friend,

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Speaker 2: Karl Ravich's son. Sam is in the business. He's really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Dad, that's a great little quirk chin

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Speaker 3: It's going to be really good. Dad. I do have

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Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow February eighteenth, So Wednesday, February eighteenth at

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Speaker 1: Mason Lotus in Wayne, Pennsylvania, right on the main line,

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Speaker 1: and we're selling tickets to give back to ALS Research

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Speaker 2: Yes, you have plenty of books still, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to it. And Dad, I'm

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Speaker 2: I've been doing a lot of speeches lately, Jeff. As

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Speaker 2: in a five day period. Recently, I spoke to my

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Speaker 2: Sure? Jeff, Okay, last week we kind of kicked off.

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Speaker 3: Dad.

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Speaker 1: And you're the only podcast host in the world that says,

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Speaker 3: Do you remember this? And I said, Dad, you wrote

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Speaker 2: Well, it was reading your book. Sometimes for the importance

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Speaker 1: All right, Dad, on this date in baseball history, what

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Speaker 2: the greatest basketball player of all time, we're not going

438
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 2: to argue about this. This is not the reason we

439
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: do this show. But after three championships, he goes and

440
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: plays baseball for one year at Double A. And I thought, Jeff,

441
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: let's just quickly tell the story again. I thought Michael

442
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: Jordan was going to hit fifty in Double A. Okay,

443
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: he wasn't a great high school baseball player. It takes

444
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: fifteen years away from it and goes and plays at

445
00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: Double A. He hit two oh two, He drove in

446
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: fifty three runs, stole thirty six bases, a miracle. He

447
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: willed himself to hit two hundred in DOUBLEA, because there's

448
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: no way he was hitting under two hundred. Tito Frankcona

449
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: was his manager, and he told me hours and hours

450
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: of stories about how great a teammate Michael Jordan was

451
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: and how he would do anything to learn how to

452
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: play the game properly because he recognized this is not

453
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: my sport. I got to listen to the experts. Does

454
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: any of this surprise you about Michael Jordan.

455
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: No, not at all, not at all.

456
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: And after watching his documentary, I think we learned a

457
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: little bit more about him. But I loved the baseball

458
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: stories and I love the Terry Francona stories we got about.

459
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: Mj Right, well, Tito tells a bunch of them, but

460
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 2: one of them, one of them, he says, they come

461
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: back on a team bust, you know, the Jordan cruiser,

462
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: and they stop and where they park there's an outdoor

463
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: basketball court there, and everyone knows this is Jordan getting

464
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: off the bus. He's playing basketball now, So they start

465
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: chirping at him from a distance, like, come on over,

466
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: old man, come on over, baseball player, see what you

467
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: could do against us. So Jordan is now pissed that

468
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: he's being challenged here. So he grabs four of the coaches,

469
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: one of them Tito Francona, and says, we're going to

470
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: play these guys and they and Tito said, no, no, no,

471
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: I'm the manager here, I'm in charge of you. We're

472
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 2: not playing them, and Jordan says, yes, we are. So

473
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: they go and play five on five against these guys

474
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: on this outdoor sandlot court. Okay, first time down the court,

475
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: Tito tells me he sets a pick. He sets a

476
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: screen for Michael Jordan at the top of the key,

477
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: as if Michael Jordan needs a screen to get by

478
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: his guy and get to the rack, like it's the

479
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: most ridiculous thing ever, screams out and get out of

480
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: my way. So Jordan of course took over, and one

481
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: guy was still chirping, and Jordan like dunked on the

482
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: guy like bent the rim, literally bent the rim, and

483
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: then stood over top of him and was screaming at

484
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: him as he was lying on the ground. And at

485
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: that point, Tito just called the game off, like, I

486
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: can't allow anything bad to happen here. Michael, you're a

487
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: baseball player. You're with us now. And Jordan of course

488
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: did what the manager said and on all those bus trides. Jeff,

489
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: I told you this. They used to play Yachtzi for

490
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: money on every trip. So Tito told me, he said,

491
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: I'm making twenty seven thousand dollars a year as the

492
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: manager of the Birmingham Barons, and Michael's on our Team's

493
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: greatest basketball player ever. He's got three rings and he's

494
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: the richest man in America. And he said, and he's

495
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: cheating at Yatzi because he cannot bear to lose because

496
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: they're playing for money. This is who is how competitive

497
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was. And all these years later, Jeff, he

498
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: and Michael Jordan, Tito and Michael Jordan are like best friends,

499
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: best friends, and it just shows you what a great

500
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: manager Tito is, but more important, what a great teammate

501
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was. Where he recognized, if I'm gonna succeed

502
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: in the sport, even for one year, I have to

503
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: do and listen to the people who know the game

504
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: way better than I do. So Happy birthday to Michael Jordan.

505
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: Well, Dad, that's funny that you brought that up, because

506
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: for poor pop Op today, I have a quiz about famous.

507
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: MJ's No way, isn't that insane.

508
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's go.

509
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Each one of these answers, D it's a short one

510
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: has their initials either their first and last name or

511
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: their first and middle name to be MJ.

512
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, so Dad, can you name me?

513
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: The famous MJ who is a renowned American fashion designer

514
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: celebrated for his blend of grunge nineteen seventies to nineteen

515
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: eighties nostalgia with cool aesthetics. He was previously the creative

516
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: director of Louis Vauton, but then created his own brand

517
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: named after him, m j.

518
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: Uh I starting with the harder ones, Jef.

519
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: I hope this is the hardest one because I have

520
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: no idea.

521
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: It's your son in law's first name, Mark Mark Uh,

522
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: and then another Mark Jacobs. Dad, I'm not even gonna

523
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: make you go down this, Okay, I'll make it.

524
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: A little easier from there.

525
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: Ruinch, What are you crazy? How am I supposed to

526
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: know that he's.

527
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: The lead singer of the Rolling Stones and a rock

528
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: icon MJ.

529
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: Bick Jagger. I'm not that stupid.

530
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: Okay, how about the King of Pop Michael Close? Come on,

531
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: the King of Pop?

532
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Dad?

533
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: Uh, try a different live.

534
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: Name Jackson Michael Jackson, Okay, yeah, sorry about that.

535
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: You got Jordan on the brain, that's all right.

536
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: How about the queen of hip hop and soul, known

537
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: for hits like Family Affair and Be Without.

538
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: You of course, Dad an nj Uh Mary j Blige.

539
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: Good job, Dad, did I get you? Got that one right? Shockingly?

540
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: And that We're just gonna end the quiz there because

541
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I mean, I started with Mark

542
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Jacobs and that was that was a poor point for you.

543
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: I thought maybe you had bought a Mark Jacob's bag

544
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: in your past for mom or my sister.

545
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: No, sorry, sorry, a fashion not not my strong suit,

546
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: among many many many other things out there. Okay, so

547
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: happy birthday to Michael Jordan. Also, happy birthday to Danny Patterson,

548
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: not quite as famous. Danny Patterson pitching the big leagues

549
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: for a bunch of years, Tigers and Rangers. I don't

550
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: know why I got such a kick out of this jet,

551
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: but I was talking to him one day. He used

552
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: to throw a split. Look at my hands on the

553
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: baseball jet. That's how you throw a split. I don't

554
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: know how anyone throws a split. I got really long fingers,

555
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: I got giant hands for little guy. But the thought

556
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: of trying to control a split with your fingers split

557
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: around the ball like that is amazing. So Danny Patterson

558
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: told me that he used one night the Vulcan grip.

559
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: So he put the script the baseball in between his

560
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: fourth and third finger. That's the Vulcan grill. And I said,

561
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: that's impossible. No one could control that pitch. And he's

562
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: that's it, Jeff, And I said, how long did you

563
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: work on it? He goes, I tried it before the

564
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: game and then I brought it in and threw it

565
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: in the game that night. How about that the Vulcan grip.

566
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: I'll never forget Danny Patterson, just for that. Also on

567
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: this state, in twenty twelve, Tim Wakefield retired. The late

568
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: Tim Wakefield. What a terrible loss for baseball. One of

569
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: the best guys I've ever met. And again, Jeff started

570
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: more games than any pitcher in the history of the

571
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: Red Sox, a pretty long history and storied history. But

572
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: Tim Wakefield was very underrated, in part because he threw

573
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: a knuckleball. Everyone thinks that some sort of circus act.

574
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: Hey we're going to the circus. He was a really

575
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: good pitcher, a great, great competitor, and he retired on

576
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: this date in twenty twelve, died that long ago. Terrible

577
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: loss for baseball so arrested peace Tim Wakefield, and on

578
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: this date, fourteen years ago he announced his retirement.

579
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: Dad, let's jump into from Burley to Behemoth. Now, you

580
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: had mentioned that you are getting a little finn here,

581
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not.

582
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: Talking about your physique.

583
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about being able to name the greatest number

584
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: sixty two of all time.

585
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think we're gonna make it from fifty

586
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: six to ninety nine. We may have to ditch this

587
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: at some point, but look, number sixty two. We have

588
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: a couple options. Jaba Chamberlain for the Yankees war number

589
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: sixty two and with a hind darn good pitcher. They

590
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: used to have a rule. They called it the Jaba rules,

591
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: so they could protect him, like if he pitched one day,

592
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: then he would have to take a day off before

593
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: pitching again. They called him the Jaba Rules. But I've

594
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: taken Jose Kintana above him. He certainly has a war

595
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: much higher starting pitcher one one hundred and thirteen games

596
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: is still pitching. Just got signed by the Rockies, So

597
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: our great number sixty two Jose Quintana.

598
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: Okay with that, Dad, Listen, I'm not going to complain

599
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: because I'm with you. I looked up players wearing numbers

600
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: between sixty three and ninety nine, and I would be

601
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: okay with maybe putting this aside for the regular season

602
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: once we get there.

603
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I know, I know the members of our family, our.

604
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Listeners have had amazing ideas on what we can take

605
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: us through the year, and I know we have a

606
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: lot of really good segments we want to plan and

607
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: put out for you once we're back to three days

608
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: a week during the regular season. So we'll be there

609
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: for that, all right, Dad, Three cards in the bathroom?

610
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: What do you have for us?

611
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: Right? Let's make sure. Three Coins in the Fountain is

612
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: an old song from many years ago. We have a

613
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: ton of baseball cards down in the downstairs bathroom. This morning,

614
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: I just went in grabbed a bunch. I didn't use

615
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: the three that we're using, but I maybe picked ten

616
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: and these are three. So number one is Bailey Ober,

617
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: which I love. He's a pitcher of course for the Twins.

618
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: And a couple of years ago I did a game

619
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis and He is six foot nine and he

620
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: is the tallest player in baseball at the time, and

621
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: he was facing Jose Altuve to start the game, and

622
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: Jose l Tuova at the time was the shortest player

623
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: in baseball. So the first batter of the game featured

624
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: the tallest player in baseball at the time against the shortest.

625
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Does anyone. I just love baseball because it's open to

626
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: all shapes and sizes, And the first batter was six'

627
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: nine against against five. SIX i love.

628
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: That you, know every once in a while you get

629
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: a matchup in like of a jump ball in THE,

630
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: nba involving a point guard in a center it rarely,

631
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: happens but in baseball you get this all the, time

632
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: and this is what makes the game.

633
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: Great And, DAD i know you're not big into. Gambling

634
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: neither AM i.

635
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Quite, FRANKLY i don't do it a lot when it

636
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: comes to my, sports BUT i definitely think if if

637
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna bet On bailey, OVER i think he got

638
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: to take the over and not the.

639
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: Under at sixth, nine you better take the. Over better

640
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: take the, over very very, Good jeff All. Right number

641
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: two Is andrew, McCutcheon one of my favorite players That

642
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: i've ever been. Around incredibly, Talented. Jeff As i've told you,

643
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: before if we have a you, know a talent show

644
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: in the major, LEAGUES i Think Steven vote would, win

645
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: But andrew McCutcheon would be a very very strong. Second

646
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: he can do, impersonations he can, Sing he's obviously a

647
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: great baseball. Player he's hilariously funny when he wants to.

648
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: Be And i'll never forget. This i've used this a few, Times.

649
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Jeff he won a batting championship in high school when

650
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: he was in the eighth. Grade in the eighth, grade

651
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: playing against twelve. Graders he told, me AND i pulled

652
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: this out of, him that he went to he went

653
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: to you, know he was at one of these schools

654
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: where it was you, know like kindergarten to. Twelve so

655
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: he goes out for the team and he's going over

656
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: to THE jv field at the VARs. Coaches, no, no, no,

657
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: son you're over here with us eighth. Grader AND i

658
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: told you That Matt diaz who lived in the area with.

659
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Him Matt diaz was a professional baseball player who went

660
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: on to have a pretty darn good major league, career

661
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: but as a professional baseball, player a DOUBLE a. Player

662
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: he worked With andrew McCutcheon when he was thirteen years.

663
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: Old So andrew's thirteen getting hitting tips from a DOUBLE

664
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: a baseball, player and after three, Lessons Matt diaz told, Me,

665
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: ANDREW i can't help you. Anymore you're a better hitter

666
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: THAN i. Am and he was thirteen years. Old So andrew,

667
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 2: McCutcheon let's not A hall Of, famer but he's had

668
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: an exceptional, career one of the Best Pittsburgh pirates.

669
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: Ever maybe it's a humble, brag but WHEN i was

670
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: in eighth grade At Ridgeview Middle school In, Gaithersburg, maryland Mister,

671
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: indovina the high school choir, teacher came to our choir

672
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: class and told, me you're not taking, Journalism you're taking.

673
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: CHOIR i already enrolled you in my. Class no big.

674
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: Deal kind of the same, thing, Right and MISTER i

675
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: played nicely Nicely johnson in high, school and so did.

676
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: You and he ACKNOWLEDGED i was really good at, that

677
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: but you were better THAN i, Was isn't that? True?

678
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he did say that that role was, very very

679
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: important to, him and he was very nervous to cast.

680
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: It so after my freshman.

681
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Year first of, all if you think my voice is high,

682
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: now you should have heard me freshman year of high.

683
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: SCHOOL i went away And, dad that was.

684
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: The famous summer where you CLAIM i went to camp

685
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: for two weeks AND i came back AND i didn't

686
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: look or sound the same at all after two weeks

687
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: away from my. Family and it was freshman welcome And

688
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: i'm a sophomore now AND i go see MISTER i

689
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: and we're singing at the freshman. Welcome it's the first

690
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: time he saw me after the, summer AND i, said,

691
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: hey mister, iye and he, goes, oh thank, GOODNESS i,

692
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: said what he, goes you finally grew up and your

693
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: voice dropped a little bit because that year would have

694
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: been guys and, dolls and that year would have been

695
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: nicely Nicely.

696
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: Johnson so you had me in mind for the, role

697
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: but he, SAID i can't put squeaky Little Jeff gertschen up.

698
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: There he needed a little bit.

699
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: More and, Listen i'm still not a, man but a

700
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: little bit more of a man up there on.

701
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: Stage So i'm still really grateful to Mister.

702
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: Indvina sorry totally going off, here BUT i think everybody

703
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: has a teacher or a coach that they look back

704
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: on that really means a lot to, them and for

705
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: me that was MISTER. I the best, teacher choir, director

706
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: theater director did all of our shows through high school the.

707
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: Best so MISTER, i thank you so much for. Everything,

708
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: okay back to the, car.

709
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: Right last one Is Al bumbrie one of my favorite

710
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: people That i've ever been. Around Former oriole and a

711
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: really Good oriole center fielder in the. Seventies he was

712
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: a little, guy but really strong and really. Determined you, Know.

713
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 2: Vietnam vett played basketball in, college was a Good Major

714
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: league baseball. PLAYER i should not tell you the, story

715
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: But i'm going. TO i just want to make sure

716
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: it's about. Him. OKAY i ended up in a gym

717
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: in the, offseason many many years, ago And i'm playing

718
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: basketball And Al bumbrae is guarding. Me i've never played

719
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: against him, before AND i took him to the bucket

720
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 2: first time and. Scored second, time second time down the,

721
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: COURT i took him to the bucket and. Scored and

722
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: he was so angry that this dinky little sports rider

723
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: had taken him to the rack twice that he picked

724
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: me up at the end line and guarded me the

725
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: rest of the night as if it Was game seven

726
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: of THE Nba. Finals so when we talk about the

727
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: competitive nature of these baseball, players it's not just in,

728
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 2: baseball it's in. Anything if there's a, competition they have to.

729
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: Win and for two, possessions Al bumbrie did not, win

730
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: and that was enough for, him and he shut my

731
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: water down for the rest of the. Night it was very.

732
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: WELL i was always impressed with how Competitive albumbrie, is

733
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: which is and here's the competitive Nature Jet Mike flanning

734
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: in the Late Great Mike flanning and told me the

735
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: story once That Dennis eckersley Hit albumbrie with a pitch

736
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: And bumbrie was certain that he hit him on. Purpose

737
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: so he goes like three years without Facing Dennis eckersley,

738
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: again And bumbray's on base when he, scores And Dennis

739
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: eckersley is backing up home plate as the pitcher's supposed to,

740
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: do and Al bumbrie crosses home plate and just steamrolls

741
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: and Knocks Dennis eckersley into next, week making it look

742
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: like it was an. ACCIDENT i didn't see him. There

743
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: he was backing up the. Plate so he gets back

744
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: to the dugout And mike flanningan goes b that was his,

745
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: NICKNAME B what was that all? About and he, said

746
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: he hit me with a pitch AND i had to

747
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: get him back And Mike flanning goes ow that was

748
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: three years. Ago Had be, SAID i don't, care it

749
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: really hurt and he had to get back out of.

750
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Him that's how vengeful these baseball players. Are and it's

751
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: that spirit and that competitive nature that Made, albumbrie A vietnam,

752
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: veteran a really good high school college basketball player and

753
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: a very Good major league baseball. Player surprised at, All, Jeff.

754
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: NO i, mean and the game has changed so much

755
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: you would never see that happen, today just with the

756
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: rules of player safety and, fights and it's a different.

757
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: World no one's getting beaned anymore like they used. To

758
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: no one's knocking out catchers like they used. To no

759
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: one's taking out second basement like they used. To the

760
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: game has, changed and part of, me though it's safer,

761
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: now part of me misses those, days.

762
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: Right, Jeff and last thing about the word Bean we've

763
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: been over this pet. Peeve, okay if somebody gets beaned

764
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: in a, game it means he got hit Where jeff

765
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: in the. Head in the, head it's called your. Bean

766
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: if you get hit in the foot or hit in the,

767
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: butt you weren't, beaned you were, plunked you were hit

768
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call. It but anybody who got

769
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: beaned means he got hit in the. Head AM i

770
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: being a pedantic little twit WHEN i say?

771
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: THIS i thought it was because Mister bean always acted

772
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: like he had just gotten.

773
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: Hit in the.

774
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Head, right you were watching Mister bean WHEN i was watching,

775
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: Baseball but he was he is was very very. Funny,

776
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: Okay so that's the three cards in the.

777
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Bathroom all, Right, Dad let's wrap it up today with

778
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: A Team. Tim given that today the day of filming

779
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Is President's, day you have an all Presidents Team. Tim

780
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: NOW i want to add a little asterisk. Here we

781
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: understand that my dad has done A Team tim Of president's.

782
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: Before but this is where you come, in handy members

783
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: of the. Family if you have A Team, tim you

784
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: want to have red on the. Air we could use

785
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: it because we're going to be doing this a lot

786
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: more this. Season great game or what dot com? Message Ok?

787
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Right, Now, jeff let's also be clear. Here i'm not

788
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 2: coming up with the greatest players at each position who

789
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: have a president's. Name i'm not doing. That i'm doing

790
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: this for the fun of the, team And i'll explain

791
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: that as we go. Along catcher Is Gary. Carter Reggie

792
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: jefferson is our first. Baseman Homer bush is our second.

793
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: Baseman John, kennedy how great is? That is the third.

794
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: Baseman and he played with The senators in the early,

795
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: sixties like When John kennedy was the president and then

796
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: finished his career with The Red. Sox like how fitting is?

797
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: That Ron washington is the. Shortstop Louke clinton is one,

798
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: Outfielder Trot nixon. Another Mooky. WILSON i could have gone

799
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: With Hack wilson, there But mookey is a little more

800
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: well known to our younger people. Today Craig munroe is

801
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: the designated. Hitter and, Again, jeff this is Where i'm

802
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: veering to try to make a. Point instead of Having Walter,

803
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: JOHNSON i ever tell YOU i went To Walter Johnson High.

804
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: School instead of Having Randy, johnson they are two of

805
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: the five greatest pitchers maybe of all. TIME i Picked

806
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: Pierce johnson who's still. Active Why Jeb Pierce johnson to presidential?

807
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: Names, okay and if you recognize and if you've heard

808
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: on the, show we named our daughter more or less

809
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: after a. President president. McKinley McKinley kirkchen is her. Name

810
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: AND i always like the Name pierce because it's a, president,

811
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: Right but unfortunately my wife dated A pierce in high,

812
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: school so we cannot will not be a boy Named

813
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: pierce in The kirkchhen, family.

814
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: Right, Okay i'm not Picking Reggie jackson on this team

815
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 2: Because i'm. Pitching Picking Grant jackson as one of our. Pitchers,

816
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: again a double presidential, Name Reggie. Cleveland always loved. That

817
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Jermaine Van, Buren Brad, lincoln and this is our specialty.

818
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: Guest he's not a president. Name but, uh there used

819
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: to be a little left hander who pitching the big

820
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: leagues in the eighties Named len White. House he's on the.

821
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: Team i'm breaking. Tradition it's not a presidential, name but

822
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: his name Is Lenn. Whitehouse AM i allowed to put him?

823
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: On you can put him.

824
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: On i'm just a little disappointed That Grover Cleveland alexander

825
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: did not make the.

826
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: List, Here, dad.

827
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: His last name Is. Alexander how many presidents are Named alexander?

828
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Zero, WELL i Mean Alexander hamilton Good, mention not a,

829
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: president but nonetheless a founding.

830
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: Father Grover Cleveland. ALEXANDER i told YOU i Got Reggie

831
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: cleveland on the. List what else do you? Want? Ah,

832
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: okay all, Right, LOOK i Know Grover Cleveland alexander is.

833
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: And grover what okay is What grover?

834
00:44:59,640 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: Is?

835
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: What Grover cleveland is the? President it is versus the last.

836
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: Name you went just with last. Names, Okay, look it's my.

837
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: List if you have a problem with, it Just i'm.

838
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: Sorry email me.

839
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: Directly i'll get back to you in three to seven business.

840
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: Days all, RIGHT i don't have a problem with, You,

841
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: Dad i've never had a problem with.

842
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: You you're the.

843
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: BEST i have to just end this, episode and you're

844
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna hate.

845
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 3: Me you're gonna hate, me But i'm gonna do it.

846
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Anyway you took care of my daughter this past weekend

847
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: AS i drove down To Kings, Mill virginia to celebrate

848
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: my best Friend Alex parker getting engaged to its, amazing

849
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: beautiful way better looking than him Fiance. Haley congratulations to

850
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: the two of. Them you spent twenty eight hours taking

851
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: care of my. Daughter you slept in a bed with

852
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: her because she was having trouble falling. Asleep for those

853
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: who don't, Know Tim kirkshin the, grandfather he's the best

854
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: grandfather you could ever ask.

855
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: For you Know Tim kirkschen the, writer you Know Tim kirkhin.

856
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: Podcaster he's an amazing, grandfather an amazing, son a great,

857
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: husband and a great.

858
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: Dad so thank, You, jeff thank. You and the one

859
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: STORY i didn't tell you IS i told McKinley, HOPE i,

860
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: Said daddy is coming home today and she said. Who

861
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Speaker 2: that's what she, Said come. On. No she was asking

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Speaker 2: For bobby And daddy for most of the, weekend but

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Speaker 2: we got her.

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Speaker 1: Through so all of fu, well thank you so much for,

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Speaker 1: listening and as, always thanks for being a partner of our.

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Speaker 3: Family