1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Table fifteen at the National Law Enforcement Officer Hall of 2 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: Fame has become a metaphor for me, y'all, is just 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: like this symbolic of something that I love most about 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: law enforcement and policing for me. And that table was 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: full of heroes that shared stories of the bravery of 6 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: their friends, the selflessness, just the honor of doing this job, 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: all without fear or favor. And the most important thing 8 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: to me about this job was in full force on 9 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: that table, And that is the humor, y'all. We laughed 10 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: from the minute we got to that table to well 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: after hours. But one thing that came from that table 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: was a story of hair that you are likely not 13 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: to hear too many of. It was February twenty six, 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and shots rang out as Corporal kimber Gifts 15 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: was conducting a business check at a grocery store. The 16 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: next two minutes would change her life. Y'all. It's got 17 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: to be one thing to save a life of another 18 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: person when you can perhaps think how should I proceed, 19 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: how can I maybe take cover and think about the 20 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: best way to execute this life save and measure and 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe there's even others around to help you. But when 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: you are ambushed all alone and the life you have 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: to save is your own. That's a whole different level. Tonight, 24 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: we have the great honor of having former Corporal Berkeley County, 25 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: South Carolina Deputy Kimber. It is absolutely our pleasure and 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: honor to have you with us, and thank you for 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: sharing your story. 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Cheryl, Thank you for having me. 29 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, we're sitting there with Tom Smith and Dan Murphy, 30 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: and I got to just tell you, I'm at the 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame to pass off my award, you know, 32 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: to Tom and share our challenge coin and all that. 33 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: And I had told my sister about you. My sister 34 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and brother in law were with my husband and I 35 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know what my sister Charlene had in 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: her mind, but when you walked in in that stunning 37 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: dress and you are so beautiful and you've got that smile, honey, 38 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: that smile lit up the whole Hall of Fame, and 39 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: my sister turned and saw you and Kimber, I thought 40 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: she's going to just start crying because she's like, that's her, 41 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: like so beautiful, so young. I'm like, yes, that's her, 42 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: But watch how she's going to navigate this room. It 43 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: was just amazing to watch you. But it was so 44 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: fun to have you at that table. You and I 45 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: laughed because you sat right to my right. Yes, honey, 46 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: it was a good time. It's a good time, y'all. 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I can't repeat the jokes, but just know they were 48 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: fabulous and on point. But you know, I'm gonna let 49 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: you start where you want to start. But I imagine that 50 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: you remember getting ready that day and putting your vest on. 51 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Cheryl, absolutely, So just you know, us being 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: the southern women that we are at the first I'll 53 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 2: just say it was a blessing to meet you and 54 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: Tom and everyone else that was at table fifteen. We 55 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: really had a fun, comical night, which is what I 56 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: actually needed. You know, it's always a blessing to get 57 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: around other fellow law enforcement deputies officers, and it reminds 58 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: you that you are not alone in this fight. And 59 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: that was the beautiful thing about me all that night 60 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: is I was reminded of I was not alone in 61 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: that particular situation, had my mother with me, had all friends, 62 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: family members. But yeah, so February twenty six, I definitely 63 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: still remember getting dressed that afternoon. So I'm just a young, 64 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: little twenty five year old deputy, not even one year 65 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: on patrol yet. So it's just me and my dog, Paisley, 66 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: who I still have to this day, bless her heart. 67 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: She's a sweet baby. And I'm getting dressed in my apartment. 68 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: And one thing I always told people is that I 69 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: could still to this day, I can hear the belt 70 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: row on my best as I was putting it on 71 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: for a shift that night. So you know, it's just 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: a typical night. I come to work, just you know, 73 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: patrolling around at INGOs Creek and just for a general 74 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: area Goose Creakings in Berkeley County, South Carolina, which is 75 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: right by Charlson, so it borders each other. We're probably 76 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: like two red lights away from Charlson where you're in 77 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: Goose Creek area. So that was the area that I 78 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: controlled nightly. And it wasn't the best of areas, right, 79 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: but there are still good people, right, There's still good 80 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: people in every walk of life. But it was, you know, 81 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: unfortunately that particular area where you think about like robbing's murders, 82 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: it was unfortunately one of those that was kind of 83 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: known for that type of aspect of crime. So it 84 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 2: was dangerous, of course, as with every aspect of law enforcement, 85 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: but it still had that heightened sense of danger just 86 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: because of the typical crimes that we would get there. 87 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: So this night, it's about twelve, a little bit after twelve. 88 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: We we would say maybe about twelve o two, twelve o 89 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: three somewhere in there. And I'd already talked to my 90 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: sergeant because my nephew's birthday was coming up that weekend. 91 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: So this is a Thursday night. We were off that Friday, 92 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: Saturday Sunday, as most police know that schedule, and I 93 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: had to drive two hours, about two and a half 94 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: hours to get home, which is originally from Spartanburg, South Carolina. 95 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: So I asked my supervisor, I said, hey, do you 96 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 2: mind if I just like cut out early tonight, not 97 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: staying until four thirty. And he's like, yeah, fine, Like 98 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: we know you can get up drive early first thing 99 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: in the morning and I would still be there by 100 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: the time he got out of school, which was the 101 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: gate plan. So me, being like the rookie dephie that 102 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: I was, I said, well, okay, I'll just drive my area. 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: You know, one last time we liked that last extra 104 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: patrol on my way home. It wasn't out of the way. 105 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: I could still go straight to the house after this, 106 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: so that's what I did. So there was a food 107 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: line shopping center, so just think about like a normal 108 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: plaza where there's like a grocery store, maybe some other 109 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: little small stores, a couple of restaurants. It was in 110 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: this kind of plaza, and as I'm driving past it, 111 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: I noticed that there is a vehicle, like an suv 112 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: part behind the store. So, just like a normal plaza, 113 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: if you were behind the store, try to like cut 114 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: through traffic, so there's like garbage cans. That's where the 115 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: trucks will pull up. So truthfully, nobody should be back 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: there after midnight. The grocery store, I think at that time, 117 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: may be closed at a eleven at the latest, and 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: then all the other smaller stores closed way earlier than that, 119 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: maybe like around nine or two. So it was obvious 120 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: that there was a car back there. So I passed by, 121 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: and I was like, well, they'll see me pass by. 122 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: I was in a fully marked control of Tahoe at 123 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: the time, so I was like, they saw me drive by, 124 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: like they're pull off. So I kind of like drive 125 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: up the road a little bit and then Paul's and 126 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: look into the river view just to make sure they 127 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: got to pull off. Well, a couple of seconds go 128 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: by and they didn't, so I was like, so I 129 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: just started around the middle of the road, you know, 130 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: no traffic, and I come back past the car again, 131 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: still on the main road, and then I turned into 132 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: the actual parking lot. Now, the way that the parking 133 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: lot is actually situated, it's kind of like a perpendicular corner, 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: so the corner cond protrudes out and you can't see 135 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: around it. So when I pulled up, I kind of 136 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: stopped before they would actually see that a car was there, 137 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: just thinking, okay, now they just saw me drive by again, 138 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: they'll definitely pull out this time, absolutely yeah. And then 139 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: they didn't, Cheryl, So I was like, what girl, Maybe 140 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: they're back there sleeping. I was like, I didn't know 141 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: what was going on. 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Maybe they're getting romantic, right. 143 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: I had all these I had all these thoughts going 144 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: through my brain, but the main one was like, I 145 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: got a fully marked how did y'all not see me 146 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: drive by? Like, drive off people, I'm just trying to 147 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: go home early. But they didn't, So, you know, the 148 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: investigative side of me was like, hey, I can't leave 149 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: this car back here. You know, it is what it is, 150 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: So you know, I radio out to dispatch to let 151 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: them know him getting out with a suspicious vehicle behind 152 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: food Line grocery store. And so I couldn't pull all 153 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: the way behind the car because of how it was 154 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: part and how the store protrudes out, so I was 155 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: kind of like perpendicular. So of course they saw me 156 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: drive by, and I kind of got as far behind 157 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: as I could, but I was still pretty much perpendiculate 158 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: with the vehicle. So I get out and I'm giving 159 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: them the description, tell them exactly where I am, what 160 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: the car looks like. And I remember walking behind the 161 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: car to go up to the driver side, and I 162 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: was about to give out the tag number. So I 163 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: was like, I remember my mouth being opened in the 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: middle of the transmission, going, of course you got a 165 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: paper tag, like of course, Like now I can't really 166 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: take the car clocks exactly. So I was like, oh 167 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: my god, like, let's just make this a little bit 168 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: harder as we go along people, right, So I just 169 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: tell him, I said, hey, Central, it's just a paper tag, 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: I said, stam By, I'll get you the names in 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: a second, normal transmission, like this is what we do 172 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: every single night. So I had a zone partner at 173 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: the time who was actually training a new deputy that 174 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: we had that came from another law enforcement agency. So 175 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: I still had a zone partner, but you know, he 176 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: was up the road, maybe not even a mile the 177 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: lady on the traffic stop. So he was like, are 178 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: you good? And I was like, yeah, I'm just gonna 179 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: figure out why they're back here. Just put them much 180 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: shoot them on their way because I was trying to 181 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: go home. I really didn't want to do anything past that. 182 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: So I walk up to the driver side and I 183 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: noticed that there's a female with long won't breaks sitting 184 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: in the driver's seat. She's got on a white shirt 185 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: and blue jeans. And then I see that there is 186 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: a mail passenger, now the mail passenger. This ends up 187 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: being a Ford expedition, So the mail passenger is sitting 188 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: in the back seat but on the passenger side, and 189 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: there's nobody else in the car butt them too. So 190 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: I immediately call out the seating position. I was like, 191 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: why are y'all even sitting like that? Like this makes 192 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: no sense, Like most people are going to be driver 193 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: pat front seat passenger, like nobody's in the back. So 194 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: they were just like, oh, well, we're just back here 195 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: talking and I said okay. I said, well, why do 196 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: you need to be back here talking And she was like, 197 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: oh well, I was giving him a rite home work. 198 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Now she's doing all the talking. But he, the mail passenger, 199 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: was like in the back seat, like fidgeting, like I 200 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: could see like his Karao arterie. I could see his 201 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: chest moving up. And now I was like, this guy 202 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: is nervous. So I was like, well, how about y'all 203 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: hand me your IDs? So she hates me her ID 204 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: and I stick it in the front of my uniform. 205 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: So what her pen is to just stick people's IDs 206 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: under the pin because the pin in the shirt will 207 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: hold it so I can have my heads free at 208 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: all times. He didn't have his ID, so I was like, okay, whatever. 209 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 2: So I said, well, where do you live, boss? I 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: mean he wanted across the street. So across the street 211 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: were on the set of townhouses, which were really really bad. 212 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean I could tell you how many shootings and 213 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: homicides led to there. And I was like, oh, so 214 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: you live across the street. And he was like yeah. 215 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: So I said, well, why don't you just get out 216 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: and walk across the street. Y'all was just talking the 217 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: parking lot, like I'm not understanding why you're a parked 218 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: behind the closed grocery store, and she was like, well, 219 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: my battery went there. So I'm looking at the car 220 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: and she had the running lights on the bottom of 221 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: her SUV and I was like, well, if your batteries, 222 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: then then the running lights will be on because the 223 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: running lights are connected to the battery, so that makes 224 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: no sense to me. So then she tries to turn 225 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: the de ignition on the vehicle, but I noticed she 226 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: didn't turn it all the way. She just kind of 227 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: turned it to that idoling position that you get turned into. 228 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, girl, like now you're playing 229 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: with me. Like okay, I was like, okay, I'm done 230 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: talking to you. I'm gonna direct my attention to what 231 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: I call him like little Froggy in the back seat 232 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: because he was fidgeting, I mean, dripping sweat and this 233 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: is February and I'm just like, why are you sweating? 234 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: So he only has on a like a wife beater 235 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: tak top and some basketball shorts like real thin material 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: and some flip flops. So I said, Sartain, you mind 237 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: just stepping out of the car and talking to me 238 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: real quick, like I got to figure out what's going on. 239 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: So he was like, no, man, I don't mind. So 240 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: he gets out of the car, and mind you, his 241 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: the passenger side of his car is actually in front 242 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: of my tapho. So I walked back around and I'm 243 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: standing in front of my tahoe. And then when he 244 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: gets out of the truck, his back door is still open, 245 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: so I can see her while I'm patting him down. 246 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: And there was really nothing to pat down because like 247 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: I said, he had like no clothing on whatsoever, and 248 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: it was like real thin material. So it was like 249 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: me going in his pockets. I shook his pants real quick. 250 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: The only thing I was truthfully worried about was obviously 251 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: a gun. And he didn't have anything. I mean, he 252 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: didn't have an id, chapstick, nothing on him Cheryl, And 253 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: I was like, I said, okay, bro, I said, so 254 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: why are you even back here? So why I was 255 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: patting him down? I kept feel like he had like 256 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: some sort of an erection while I was patting him down. 257 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: I said, hey, bro, I said, if y'all are back here, 258 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: because like you couldn't take her to the house, Like 259 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: just say that, Like if you've got a whole lot 260 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: of people in the house and this was it, all 261 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: you got to do is say that and then I 262 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: can put y'all on. Y'all wait, because I really wasn't 263 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: too pressed, right, I'm trying to go home like they 264 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: knew each other. If it's consensual, ain't no money get exchanged? Cool? 265 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: All right? Just moved from behind the store and he 266 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't say nothing. I mean, he got locked with Cheryl, 267 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, like are you scared to 268 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: go to jail for prostitution? And he just like froze. 269 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: So I said, well, I'm gonna go over here and 270 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: talk to her and make sure everything straight with her. 271 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: I gave the dispatcher his name, so I said, everything 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: straight with you, I said, I'll just sledt y'all go on, 273 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: y'all wait. He was like, okay, thank you. So I said, well, 274 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm out here by myself. Do you mind just sitting 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: in the backseat of my car? And he was like, no, ma'am. 276 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: The problem with it, so opened up the backseat of 277 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: my car and he sits down in the cage. Cool, 278 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: he's out of place. So I walked back up to 279 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: the car. And when I walked back up to the car, 280 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: I could smell like some perfume. So I'm like, I 281 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: did not smell that the very first time, Like that's weird. 282 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: And then I could see her fidgeting around in the car. 283 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: So I said, hey, I needing can get out because 284 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: you're moving too much for me, and she was like okay, 285 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: but for what I said for number one, I said, 286 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: you're moving around. And then so why did you just 287 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: spray like some perfume? And she was like, oh, I 288 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: just like how it smells. I was like, that's weird, 289 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: Like nobody just sprays perfume while they're out with a 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: police officer, like not even on like a speeding ticket, 291 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: like a speeding traffic stop, Like nobody does that. That's 292 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: just not normal behavior. So when she got out of 293 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: the car, I noticed that in front of her pants 294 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: were on button and she kept trying to pull like 295 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: her shirt down. So when I looked at her shirt, 296 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: I realized that it said like something security on it, 297 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: and I was familiar with like one of the security 298 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: companies that worked at our mall and Trumps. So I said, 299 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: is that where you work? And she was like, yeah, 300 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: I just got off. That's how I know him. I said, okay, 301 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: so the mall I think pre COVID it closed at 302 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: like maybe like ten thirty. I think in Charlsa, and 303 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: from the mall to where we were would take you 304 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: at max ten minutes to get there at that type 305 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: of night, like there's no traffic, nothing you could breeze through. 306 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: Every red light was gonna be green. So I said, well, 307 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: if you were giving him a ride home work at 308 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: ten thirty, it's now twelve, what have y'all been doing 309 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: for like an hour and a half. So pretty much 310 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: their entire story just wasn't adding no. So I said, 311 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: your pants are on button, he's over there with half 312 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: in direction. I said, like, sis, be for real, Like 313 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: if y'all were just back here, you know, just doing whatever. 314 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: I said, just say that so that way I can 315 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: move on and go and by my day. 316 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're basically telling both of them what to 317 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: say to you. Yeah, you can get out of there. 318 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Cheryl, I was just like, y'all tell me 319 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: that's what you're doing, just nod your head and saying 320 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: yes so I can come firm and then I'm gonna 321 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: tell y'all to leave. 322 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they went. 323 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: They were not catching to the drift, which makes sense 324 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: because of why she she didn't even care about prostitution. 325 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: She had some other stuff going on. So as I'm 326 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: talking to her, she's still pulling down on the front 327 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: of this shirt shayl and I'm just like all right. 328 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: At this point, I said, I'm gonna patch you down 329 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: because you're you're fidgeting too much. I said, you're tugging 330 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: on the front of this shirt. I don't like it. 331 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: So we're standing in the front of per truck, so 332 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: I said, place your hands on the front of your 333 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: trup and patch you down real quick. So by this time, 334 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: my dispatcher is calling and was like, hey, are you good, 335 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, nah, I go ahead and send 336 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: my zone partner at the time, a name is Damn. 337 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: So I called for his number and I said, hey, 338 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: you might just go ahead meet me over here, and 339 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: he was like yeah, I'll be on the wave. That's 340 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: a second. He was clearing up pitch traffic stide, so 341 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: I was like cool, whatever, So I tell her, So 342 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: I go to like pat her down, and I always 343 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: when I patted people down, started in the very very front, 344 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: and I always went to the right first because I 345 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: was just right handed. So that's what I went to do. 346 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: So she standing in front of the car, I'm directly 347 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: behind her, got that normal stance where you just push 348 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: them off against the car, and you got one leg 349 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: back kind of like keeping your balance. And something happens 350 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: like normal pat down, and she pushes off of the 351 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: car and I'm like, yeah, no, don't do that. Like 352 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: now she's getting aggressive, like her arm locks out and everything. 353 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: So I get on the radio and Tensen for us 354 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: was a fight, so all you had to do was 355 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: like central tensin and everybody nam moment. Now. I was 356 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: the only female on my ship, so a lot of 357 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: times I didn't have to say my number because they 358 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: would hear me you know who exactly it was, right, 359 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: So that's exactly what I did. I just keep up 360 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 2: and I just said sexual sense in like just like that, 361 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: like I wasn't. I didn't have any like urgency in 362 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: my voice because they know I've been in multiple fights. 363 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: They know I can handle myself. But what I to 364 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: my surprise, was that it wasn't just gonna be a fight. 365 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: So what she did was the gun that she had 366 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: ended up being in the very very front of her 367 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: paints where she's trying to pull down, but on the 368 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: left side because come and find out, she was left handed. 369 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: So when I put my hand in the front, she 370 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: thought that I could feel the gun with the left side, 371 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: so she took her right elbow and just nudged me 372 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: back and pushed me. And then as she pushed me, 373 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm like turning my head because I could see like 374 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: her hand coming up, so I thought she was just 375 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: going to try to like hook me, so like I 376 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 2: moved my head back just to like a slight tan 377 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: and then she's pushing me. At the same time. Well, 378 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: as all of this is going on, I hear something 379 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: like really really loud, like to the point where I 380 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: lost all of my hearing. So I lost all of 381 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: my hearing, and then I saw at the same time, 382 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: like a really bright flash. Now I can't hear anything, 383 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: and I could not see anything, like it was like 384 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: pitch black. It was kind of like I had went 385 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: blind for a second, couldn't hear anything, and now I 386 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 2: just feel like everything is in slow votion. So I 387 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: was like, what is going on? Because I've been punched before. 388 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: I was like, that's not a punch, Like, there's no 389 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: way she punched me that hard to like disorient me. 390 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: So my vision starts to come back a little bit, 391 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: and I could see like the trees were moving, so 392 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I can see what's going on, 393 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Like okay, chimber like yourself together, like figure out what's 394 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: going on next. So since I couldn't hear anything, I said, well, 395 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: just take a deep breath in and see if you 396 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: can smell something. So that's exactly what I did. I 397 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: waited until I could see like the trees move again 398 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: with the breeze, took a deep breath in, and I 399 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: was like, oh crap, that's dumb powder. Like I knew 400 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: it immediately. I smelled dumpowder, and I was like, oh 401 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: my god, this curl was shooting at me. The first 402 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: shot I could literally I didn't realize that I was 403 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: shot in my ear first. I thought the very first 404 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: shot was the one that was in my jaw or 405 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: in my lip because it was burning like that bad. 406 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: So as I'm actually falling to the ground, she's still 407 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: actually shooting at me. Now I can actually see People 408 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: don't realize that when you're an officer involved shooting, like 409 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: tom really does slow down. So I could actually see 410 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: like some of the bullets as they were like whizzing. 411 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: So I'm like falling towards the ground, and I realized, like, 412 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: you're falling, like there's no regaining your balance at this point, 413 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: Like I was too far gone, so I knew I 414 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: was going to hit the ground. The problem with hitting 415 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: the ground was this hick was still shooting at me. 416 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: So it was like, Okay, now she really just wants me. 417 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: At this point, I was like, okay, I could see 418 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: you doing one shot and then taking off, but you 419 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: see me falling to the ground and you're still shooting. 420 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, she literally wants to be dead. 421 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: So you got to make a move at this point. 422 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: So when I hit the ground, I was like, you 423 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: got one or two options, roll left or roll right, 424 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: But you got a roll. Now. I'm right handed, so 425 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: my gun is on my right side. At that point, 426 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: I could feel when I hit the ground, I could 427 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: feel like more shots hit, so that would be the 428 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: one that actually went under my vest. Hit my hip 429 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: went into my stomach, so I could feel all these 430 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: shots as they're happening. So I felt that one. So 431 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: in my brain I was like, well, you just got 432 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: shot on your left side. Keep all your shots on 433 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: your left side because you don't want to lose your 434 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: right arm. Because I was like, I gotta get my 435 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: gune out at some point, my god. So that's what 436 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, I hit the ground, I said, all right, 437 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: roll so I rolled left. So when I rolled left, 438 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: I was like, don't roll up too far, but don't 439 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: roll up too back, too far on the back, because 440 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: if I roll up, she can easily get a headshot. 441 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: And then if I roll too far, I'm not gonna 442 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: be able to see anything to shoot. So as I 443 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: was rolling, I was like, man, just you know, at 444 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: the point in time it said, I don't let me 445 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: good playing, I said, man, just stick your foot out. 446 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: Maybe that'll help do something so that way it'll take 447 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: a shot so it doesn't hit your head, which it 448 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: did because I got one straight in my foot. And 449 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: when I tell you to this day, Cheryl, that was 450 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: the worst one. I could literally see like the bone 451 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: fragments show up pop up in my face. Like blood 452 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: going everywhere. I was just like, oh, And at this point, 453 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: I'm really really mad, and I am ticked off because 454 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: now not only are you trying to kill me, but 455 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: you waited until I hit the ground and you stood 456 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: over me like now you got to see me, so that, 457 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: you know, sparked the fire. And me was like, hey, 458 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: if you're gonna try to take me out, you're coming 459 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: with me. So I was able to get my gun 460 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: out at that point, so I separated my feet and 461 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: I just kind of leaned up just a little bit 462 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: and started shooting back at her. Now, at this point, 463 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: she is trying to use her car as cover, because 464 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, I'm in the middle of my 465 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: car in her car. So I literally, at this point, 466 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: I have nowhere to go. I can't just not shoot. 467 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: I gotta do something before I can even get to 468 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: any type of cover. So me and her just having 469 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: this good old fashioned battle, like me laying on the ground. 470 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 2: She's trying to dump behind the car, and at one 471 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: point I saw her fall, saw her fault, and I 472 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: was like, that's it, that's my shot. So I jump 473 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: up real quick. There's a big, big, big trash can 474 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: behind the grocery store, like a normal one that you 475 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: would see, and I book it as soon as I 476 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: put my foot down. Cheryl, when I tell that pain 477 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: was from hal When I put that foot down, I 478 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,239 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god. So I'm running pretty much 479 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: running on a broken foot with a bullet in it. 480 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: So as I was running to the trash can, that's 481 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: when I was like, put your hand on your face 482 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: and figure out, like your mouth and tongue are still there, 483 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: because you got to get out shots fired at some point, 484 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: And that's what I did. I looked to it's just 485 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: a deeper after and I say, either my face is 486 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: there or it's not. And when I felt my face, 487 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: I said, oh, thank you God. Had a vain moment 488 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: in the middle of probably almost died, but I really 489 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: wanted my face. 490 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm in an old fashioned gunfight, but I'm still 491 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: a woman. 492 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I was like, oh my god, my face is 493 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: still better. You know, I want to have a cute fielderal, 494 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: not one of those you need. 495 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: An open casket because I'm kids. 496 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: Exactly. 497 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: You are too much sugar, y'all. See what I was 498 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: telling y'all ready for what she's bringing. That is fantastic. 499 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So yeah, so I get behind the 500 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: trash can and I'm screaming like shots fire, shots fire. 501 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: And then I'm behind the trash can and I'm like 502 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: all right, doing the whole magg exchange. And then I'm 503 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: looking to see, Okay, well where she at? Is she 504 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: I'm still in the game. Did I kill her? Or 505 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: what's going on? So the next thing I know is 506 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: the truck that she's driving starts backing up, and I 507 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: go to myself like, this girl just told me her 508 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: battery was there, so how was the car moving? So 509 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: now I'm just like no. I was literally going thinking 510 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: to myself like no, ma'am, like you took the car 511 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: out of plate, like get out of the car and 512 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: fight me, Like why are you driving away? At this point, 513 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: so I really got mad because she was trying to leave. 514 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: I really wanted her to stay there and we could 515 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: just finish it like grown women. 516 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: But she I also love the fact You're like, wait 517 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: a minute, she just shot me eight times. But I 518 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: know she didn't lie about that battery exactly. 519 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: That was the only thing I was worried about. Everybody 520 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: was like you just got shot, and I was like, well, 521 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: she lied about the battery. So I'm not understaying why 522 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: she lied about the battery. 523 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Come back here to finish this thing. 524 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 2: You know, typical women, Like we get locked in on 525 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: one thing that you said that was a lie, and 526 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: like why would you lie like that? So she ends 527 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: up backing up the truck and she goes around the 528 00:24:53,359 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: opposite side of the store. So that I was like, nope, 529 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: she's not getting away, like I don't know if I'm 530 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: a die behind the store, like she's gotta go to 531 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: jail or something. So I take off running the opposite direction. 532 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: So the the way that I pulled in with my 533 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: truck is the way that I start running out again. 534 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: I completely forgot that my foot was broken, so I'm 535 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: like it's hurting, but I'm running on it. And then 536 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: she and I actually meet in the front of the store, 537 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: so she's driving around the opposite side. I'm running around 538 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: the opposite side. And Cheryl, to the day I die, 539 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: I will never forget one. Her face when she saw 540 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: me through the windshield, it was like she saw a 541 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: go She was like, I thought I killed you, Like 542 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: what is going on right now? Her mouth dropped. She 543 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god. So again because of the 544 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: area that I was in, it's a lot of like 545 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: high foot traffic, people on bicycles, you know, open open 546 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: air drug market pretty much. So my initial thought was 547 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: just you know, shoot at the car while she's driving away, 548 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: Like at this point, I mean, there's gonna be a 549 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: led investigation. But I renigged on that because I was like, 550 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: if I throw a shot and it hits somebody that's 551 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: out here just randomly walking down the street, I would 552 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: never forgive myself. So at that point I was just like, 553 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: you know what it is, what it is, Just get 554 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: the direction to travel. You got everything else, and that'll 555 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: be the end of it. So when she pulled out 556 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 2: of the store, she actually went the exact direction that 557 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: I felt like they came from to begin with, which 558 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: never really made sense on how long they were back 559 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 2: there to me. So I was like, Okay, now I 560 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: know where she's going. Well, at this point, I'm standing 561 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: in the front of the parking lot, and now like 562 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: the time is coming back. I can hear, I can feel, 563 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: I can taste, and my whole entire body is like 564 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: shutting down in front of me because now my body's like, 565 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: all right, you know your shot a lot of times, right, 566 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: you got to figure something out. So there's a Circle 567 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: K gas station that was at the head of the room. 568 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: So I was trying to get back to my truck, 569 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: but I ended up like falling into the parking lot 570 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: and actually started throwing up blood or whatever because of 571 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: what happens when you're shot and you got bullets eitxwhere 572 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: So I like followed the ground. I was like, all right, 573 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: I got one or two choices. I can try to 574 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: make it to the gas station, or I can chance 575 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: running behind the store, getting back to my truck and 576 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: just using my car radio because at this point I'm 577 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: like literally keying up on the radio like still going 578 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: shots fired. This is where I am, And I'm like, 579 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: where is everybody? Like nobody's listening, nobody showing up. So 580 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: I took the chance. I say, screw it, run to 581 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: the gas station and maybe I can just fall in 582 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: the gas station parking lot and somebody will see me. Well, 583 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: I run to the road, and then there ends up 584 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: being this green car that's coming down the road and 585 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: her name ended up being Kristen, So Kristin I wait 586 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: for down. Of course, I still have my gun in 587 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: my hand, I didn't realize, of course, how bloody I 588 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: looked from you know, being all shot up to pieces. 589 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: But she ends up stopping the car and she rolls 590 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: down the window and I look at her and I say, hey, 591 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 2: my name's Kimber. I said, can you call nine one one? 592 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: And she's like, yes, ma'am. And I could see how 593 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: she at the time. I was like, man, this girl's 594 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: like really nice, but I could see how she was 595 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: sewing shock of what she was seeing. And she just 596 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: grabs her phone and her hands are shaking, and I 597 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: was like, hey, it's okay, it's okay. I said, just 598 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: down now on one, and she's like, yes, ma'am. And 599 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, as soon as they answered the phone. She 600 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: was like, what do I say? I said, as soon 601 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: as they answer her phone, I say, say exactly this. 602 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: I said, say my call sign at the time was 603 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: one four four. I said, just say counting one four 604 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: four has been shot. Can y'all send people to the 605 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: food line? I said, they'll know exactly what you're talking about, 606 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: and she excellent job. She literally relays it word for word. 607 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: My best friend was a dispatcher on the main channel 608 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: that night, so the whole time, I didn't realize that 609 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: one of my radio had actually been shot. So literally 610 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 2: the last transmission they had from me was the ten 611 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: ten was me being in a fight. 612 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's the last time they've heard from you. 613 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: That was the last time they heard from me. So 614 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: they didn't hear like the shots fire. So this whole time, 615 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: they're like freaking out because they're t to get me 616 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: back up radio after the fight. And then the next 617 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: thing that they know is just this girl calls and 618 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: now I want it, says you got a deputy out 619 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: here that shot. So like at this point, the radio 620 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: traffic is everybody is like, oh crap. So, I mean 621 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: they're like screaming to get to me now. Before that, 622 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: my sergeant was already on the way to get me 623 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: because I didn't answer the ten cents, so he was 624 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: already on the way there. So by the time Kristen 625 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: had called to when everybody started showing up, was like 626 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: a couple of seconds. But my sergeant ended up getting 627 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: there first. He gets there, I handed my gun, I 628 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: lay down, I said, hey, I said, I don't care 629 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: what y'all do at this point, I said, but y'all 630 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: got it. I said I'm done. I said, get ems here. 631 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: I said, my stomach curds, my leg curds, everything hurts. 632 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: And he was like okay. So they laid me down. 633 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: They start cutting all my stuff off, take my boots off. 634 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: They put the turn kit on. Like I got hundreds. 635 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: It feels like hundreds of people around me. And my 636 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: sergeant is like, while they're doing all this, I remember 637 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 2: I grabbed the ID. My sergeant was like, hey, what 638 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: do they look like? And I was like, it's female, 639 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: long braids, white teeth, blue jays. And he's like okay. 640 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: He was like, which way they go? Said, She's in 641 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: a green Florid Expeditions and she hung the right going 642 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: towards the road is called Henry E. Brown and it's 643 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 2: great for those who are wondering. I said, she hold 644 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: the right to Henry E. Brown. I said she's going 645 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: back to nor Charleston and he was like, what part 646 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: of now Charleston. I said, somewhere in Park Circle. Park 647 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: Circle's not it used to be not a really good area, 648 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: but they've it's coming along way now. He's like, how 649 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: do you know all this? And I was like, oh wait, 650 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: And I remember I snatched the id from the front 651 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: of my uniform as I snatching all my stuff off 652 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: and handed it to him. Cherryl you can hear a 653 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: pin drop. It was like em mess was quiet, fire 654 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: was quiet. My supervisor, all the deaphies I was working with, 655 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: was like, how did you even get the idea if 656 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: somebody had shot you? Like what is going on? So 657 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's it. That's the girl that 658 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: shot me. So they're doing all this and they're like, 659 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: where's your trunk and I said, my truck's behind the door, 660 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: and they were like okay. So they run back there 661 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: and they obviously see like the crime scene and I 662 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: was like, hey, there's somebody in my car. And it 663 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: was like dude, what And I was like, there's a 664 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: guy in my car. He saw the entire thing. So 665 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: they go back there. They had threw like all my 666 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: stuff all over the place, so they couldn't find my 667 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: keys in my truck, so they had to slim Jim in. 668 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: So they slimmed Jim the car snatch him out. He's 669 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: in the back seat. There's footprints where he was trying 670 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: to kick. He wouldn't go anywhere because the bars, but 671 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: he was like trying to kick out the window, trying 672 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: to kick everything out because he's watching this entire thing happen. 673 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: He was afraid that the girl that he was with 674 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: was going to come open up the door and kill 675 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: him too. So at this point they're throwing me in 676 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: the back of the ambulance. My sergeant is like, go, 677 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: but he's got a question real quick, and he has 678 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: two id's and he says, grab the ID of the 679 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: person that shot you. And I grabbed his wrist. I said, 680 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: that's the bitch that shot me. He was like okay, 681 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: So I go to the hospital. They obviously start taking 682 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: all the stuff off of me. The only thing that 683 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: took me off at the hospit what it was. I 684 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: know they had to do it, but they were counting 685 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: all of my injuries out loud, like all of my shots. 686 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, could y'all not do that? Like, 687 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: I know I'm shot up right now, but you know, 688 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: thanks so. 689 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: And were some through and through right. 690 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah somewhere I think that's where not lucky, but because 691 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: God knew what he was doing. But yeah, I got 692 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: lucky because I had any of those other than like 693 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: the one that was obviously lodged in my stomach not 694 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: have been throwing through. We're not having this conversation. 695 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Today, absolutely right. 696 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: So I get to the hospital. Of course the cavalry's there. 697 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: My sheriff is actually on his way back from vacation, 698 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: so he calls. He's on the phone. He's like, I'm 699 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: on the way back, and I'm like, you don't have 700 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: to do that, and he's like, no, I'm on the 701 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: way back, man. My chief is in there. My chief 702 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: ends up calling Spartanburg County and waking my mom up. 703 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: So they sent Spartanburg County to go make notifications to 704 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: my mom. Spartburg County drove her from Spartanburg to Columbia 705 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: and then how it troll picked her up from Columbia Charleston. 706 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: The whole what they wanted to do, they were just 707 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: gonna get her. Helicopter just flyed down there, but a 708 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: real bad storm ended up coming in and they had 709 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: to ground them. So shout out to them for doing 710 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: that whole piggyback and you know, law enforcement taking care 711 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: of law enforcement, and they got her there. By the 712 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: time I was out of surgery. I think I was 713 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: in surgery maybe. I think my mom said, maybe like 714 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: seven or eight hours and I come out and there's 715 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: like police everywhere. When I say everywhere, like they literally 716 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: had to like move waiting rooms for them to like 717 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: be in. So when I tell you that camaraderie, when 718 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: like something like that happens is true. Like stuff you 719 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: see on the movie's true. There were being hundreds thousands 720 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: lined up. They were all over the place, to the 721 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: point where the hospital was like she's got to lay 722 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: down and go to sleep y'are like, y'all got to chill. 723 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: But it was so heart warming to see all the 724 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: support that I had, especially like immediately after that, and 725 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: like even the guys weren't there and they was like, 726 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: you actually shot back and I was like yeah. He 727 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: was like I don't think he realized. It's like how 728 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: badass that is? Like most of us would you have 729 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: been able to do that? 730 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: And I'm straight up badass. Yeah, you already had one 731 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: in custody badass. You got her complete id badass and 732 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: then you remembered it. I listened to the nine one 733 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: one call, and you know, the first thing that struck 734 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: me is, how was this young girl who's just driving 735 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: down a road that's normally vacant normally nobody's around does 736 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: such a flawless job at giving information. Well, now I 737 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: know that was you too. You're orchestrating this whole thing. 738 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: And Kimber, here's the thing that blows my mind. Well 739 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: about twenty seven things that blow my mind, but I'm 740 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: going to kind of go in order. One of the 741 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: first things that blows my mind is you were cognizant 742 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: of the fact that you've been shot twice and they 743 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: tried to be a head shot. She tried to take 744 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: you straight out. It hit your ear, and then the 745 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: next one hit your lip, and then you ain't mad yet. 746 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: So let me tell you something about whoever raised you. 747 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: That's a remarkable person. To let your heart be that okay, 748 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: because in high school you foul me. We're going to 749 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: the ground, okay, so much less you shoot me two 750 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: times and then you're so you're just so adorable. But 751 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: then you're like, okay, you're gonna stand over me, and 752 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: I want everybody to understand. Literally, you walked towards me. 753 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: Know when you hit me twice, there's blood everywhere, and 754 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna shoot me again and again and again. And 755 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: that's when you say, okay, I got mad now all right, 756 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: so again remarkable. And then when you have all of 757 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: these severe life threatening injuries, you go up to a 758 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: car calmly so that you don't scare this child. 759 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Have to Kristen, Yes, Kristy Touchberry that was her name. 760 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: And you say to her, hey, I'm Kimber, like like, 761 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: y'all are in a sorority function. 762 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I did, and I didn't realize. I got 763 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: some folk crime scene photos. Unfortunately we had to turn 764 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: her car into your crime scene. But when they were 765 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: talking to her, you can actually see like a thumbprint 766 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: of mine that's bloody where I was just leaning on 767 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: her car. And she tells them she was like she 768 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 2: was trying to hide her gun, so it didn't scare me. 769 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: But I was just like scared staring at her, and 770 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, sweetheart, like I didn't want to 771 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: be rude to you, like you were civilian. Yeah, I 772 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 2: hid my gun. I like put it behind my back, 773 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, I'm Kimber. Can you call. 774 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: Most people in that situation you have responded to? How 775 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: many emergencies people are not polite, People are not calm 776 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: and giving concern for the person that's trying to help them. 777 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: They're usually screaming and yelling, help me do something, get 778 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: everybody here, And you are so thoughtful toward you know, 779 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: Kristen that you're like, I don't want the gun to 780 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: scare her. I don't want to scare her, but I 781 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: need her to call somebody. I just I think that 782 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: speaks to you almost more than anything I've heard today. 783 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: You are an unbelievable human being, Sugar, I mean unreal. 784 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: Definitely got that from my mom. But yeah, and then 785 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: it's the Southern ways. You know, you don't want to 786 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: be rude to people, especially somebody that's trying to help you. 787 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 2: Like you said, I know you've been on play of crime, 788 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: so where you see people that are just showing their 789 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: rear end while you're trying to get somebody CPR, and 790 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 2: we're like, ma'am sir, like I'm trying to concentrate on, 791 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: you know, putting breath back in. You know, your friend 792 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: or your family member. You got to give me, you know, 793 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: some grace here. So and I want to turn into 794 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: that person like I knew I needed help, but at 795 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: the same time as the person that I need to 796 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 2: help me can't stay calm we're both in the world 797 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: to hurt. 798 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: Well that's the absolute truth. But again, there's just not 799 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: another story like this, And I just knew it was 800 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: important for people to hear it, for people to learn 801 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: about you and know about you and hopefully wait for 802 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: the movie. 803 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah one day. Well hopefully, let's see, maybe Netflix will 804 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: pick up a and do a mini series on all 805 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 2: the officers that have been involved in traumatic incidents and 806 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: put something together. 807 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: Hey, Netflix, Hey, it would be so important. And you know, 808 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: just that relationship with Tom Smith and Dan Murphy. You know, 809 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: they first told me about you and I was like, 810 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: I know her story, I've never met her. And they're like, oh, 811 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: just wait till you meet her. And when I got 812 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: to table fifteen and you were to my right and 813 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: Miss Delores was next to you, I was like, oh, yeah, 814 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good night. And it was 815 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: long till we started laughing and you know, telling different stories, 816 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: and baby, you had some good stories, and y'all I'm 817 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: talking about funny stories, like things that happened. But then 818 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: when you got up and gave your speech, I mean, 819 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: there was no doubt in my mind that room was 820 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: going to be erupt in the standing ovation, and I 821 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: want everybody to understand that room was filled with people, 822 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean not just heroics, but unbelievable acts of terrorism 823 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: and life saving and you know, literally putting their life 824 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: on the line, and that room stood up for you, Honey. 825 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: And I think again, Cheryl, especially with that one night, 826 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: just knowing that I'm around people that have also been 827 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: through the same thing, it's very humbling because as we 828 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: both heard with that, there are people that couldn't stand 829 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 2: up and receive their award. There are people that did 830 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 2: receive awards, but you know, their partners didn't come home 831 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: with them. So it's a very humbling experience and a 832 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: blessing as well, because Amen, and we both know while 833 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: we're still here today, you know, the Good Lord saved 834 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: not only myself but other law enforcement officers, but unfortunately 835 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: we have lost some along the way, even recently, so 836 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 2: we know it's not going to stop. But I feel 837 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: like with us being able to still have play forms 838 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: like such as yourself and then Tom and Dan to 839 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: still get the word out to let them know this 840 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: is still a great profession to be. It's still dangerous, 841 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: but it's also still a blessing to know that you 842 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: can still help others. 843 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: There's no better And I'll tell you how you used 844 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: to tell my own children. If something were to happen 845 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: to be at work, just know I prefer that to 846 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: a car wreck or falling off a ladder or getting 847 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: some disease. I mean that would just make me mad. 848 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: Right because I've went through all of this save in 849 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: the world, and then this is what takes me out off, 850 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: you know, you. 851 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: Know, yeah for me, like if I spend forty four 852 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: years doing this and going to crime scenes that y'all 853 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: have already made safe for me, let me point that out. 854 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. You know that. If I'm going to 855 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: trip and hit my head on a coffee table, just 856 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: just know I went angry, absolutely. 857 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 2: And sure I tell people that all the time, especially 858 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 2: after my incident. So I've been in a a few 859 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: car wrecks, I've had. My mom said a few of 860 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: the you know racing hearts with me. I wasn't the 861 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 2: easiest child raised. But I tell people, a think, going 862 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: through all this, if I trip and fall down some steps, 863 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: and that's what my oldbituary says, I'm going to be 864 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: so upset. 865 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm be like Saint Peter, are you kidding me? 866 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Like, sir, can we start off. 867 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've told my sisters. I have four sisters, 868 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: and I've told them that that's the kind of thing 869 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: that takes me out. Y'all make something up. 870 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 2: Right right, Say that I was doing something really really 871 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 2: cool that I was. 872 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: She was in a major fight. I mean, she didn't 873 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: hit her head on a coffee table vacuuming. I mean, 874 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: that would just be pitiful. But listen, I know it 875 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: is not easy telling this story, and I know today 876 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna keep popping up and you might even have 877 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: one of those situations at five o'clock tonight where you 878 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: smell gunpowder for no reason. But I appreciate you, and 879 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: I think this story is so important that it needs 880 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: to be captured and heard by everybody. And so I 881 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you putting yourself out there. I appreciate everything that 882 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: you have done for your community, for the United States, 883 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: because you're not done. You're working now in DC. And 884 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: I just appreciate everything about you and just wanted to 885 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: say that to you again that I admire you. You 886 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: are lovely inside and out. You are brave, you are strong, 887 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: and you're fun thank you. So I just appreciate you 888 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: being now a part of my Zone seven. So you 889 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: need anything, not just in Atlanta, you need anything, you 890 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: call me, honey, Yes, ma'am. 891 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Cheryl. I greatly appreciate number one 892 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: meeting you to the laughs and then you just invited 893 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: me to even have this conversation because it is therapeutic 894 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: for me. Talking about it is therapeutic. It reminds me 895 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: you got to laugh about some stuff that God pushing through. 896 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't funny at the time, but now I can 897 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: find some humor in it. I was like, well, God, 898 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 2: what was I do it in life that you said, hey, Kimber, 899 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: you got to sit down for just a minute. Or 900 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: who did I reach along the way? So I always 901 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 2: always thank people for allowing me to share my story. 902 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: So that way, I'm reaching somebody right now. I don't 903 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 2: know who it is, but if I'm reaching you, you 904 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: got to keep going. 905 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: You're reaching and He's putting you in a position where 906 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to help more and more 907 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: and more people. I believe it. 908 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 2: I know it absolutely, y'all. 909 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to end Zone seven the way that I 910 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: always do with a quote I knew she was going 911 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 1: to be something great from the day she was born. 912 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: Dolores giessed Kimber's mama. I'm Cheryl McCollum and this is 913 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: Zone seven.