WEBVTT - Madeline Zima Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>Adler learned his first curse word, which was ass.

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<v Speaker 2>That's barely a curse word. That's acceptable on television. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably where he heard it, and he said he said,

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<v Speaker 3>Asie said something about like somebody was going to beat

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<v Speaker 3>someone's ass, and Jensen said, what did you just say?

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, I'm going to beat that guy's ass.

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<v Speaker 3>Gens was like, oh, that is another another word for butt,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just prefer that you say butt, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't he doesn't acknowledged the power yet. No, And

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<v Speaker 2>he went through a phase I guess was probably like

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<v Speaker 2>seven or eight where it was like when he realized

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<v Speaker 2>he could get a rise out of people by swearing,

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<v Speaker 2>and oh man, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just over right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we said like, you can swear at home, just

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<v Speaker 2>don't swear in front of other adults or other kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And once he knew he had that freedom, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like car rides would just become a swear fest. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it was like wanting to find songs or things

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<v Speaker 2>where people swore, and that was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>you just wanted to like keep quoting them and talking

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<v Speaker 2>and was like okay, dude. And then he finally he

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<v Speaker 2>exhausted himself. But it took a while. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>a good six months of just having to swear, and

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<v Speaker 2>like it finally was just like, you know, it's boring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually like a sign of limited vocabulary. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't find a more creative way to say something,

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<v Speaker 2>you just think that saying the effort is funny. It's

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<v Speaker 2>minimal humor.

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<v Speaker 3>Adler has been trying to figure out what the effort

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<v Speaker 3>is for years, so have I.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it's a verb, it's a noun,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>The F word.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one day he said, Mom, I know what

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<v Speaker 3>the F word is? And I said you do, and

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<v Speaker 3>he goes, yeah, freaking And I went.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, yeah it is. That's a word that starts with F.

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<v Speaker 3>And then yesterday again he asked, Jensen, does the F

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<v Speaker 3>word stand for Fox?

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<v Speaker 1>So close? So so close? But thankfully, thankfully you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>crossed that bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, anyway, I'm uh, I just can't believe it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's six. We've done a really good job in

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<v Speaker 3>our house of not cursing around our kids. We just

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<v Speaker 3>we just don't do it. As a matter of fact.

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<v Speaker 3>For a while, Adler was saying, oh sh which was

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<v Speaker 3>like so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing he would ever say.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Indi, indies brought what the heck into our life,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we love too. He's like, Dad, what the heck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, yeah, or shoot shoot No. Alex made the

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<v Speaker 2>mistake last month, literally a month maybe a month and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago, because she decided that she swore too much,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, I want to swear less. So

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<v Speaker 2>she told India that she would pay him a dollar

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<v Speaker 2>every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, it's up.

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<v Speaker 2>To thirty eight dollars and India is holding her too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I want every last.

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<v Speaker 2>Day he won and she's like no, come on. And

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<v Speaker 2>then and then we were in Costa Rica for her

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<v Speaker 2>birthday and he was like, how many times you just

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<v Speaker 2>wear in Costa Rica? You should have kept track for me? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's claiming. He's like an accountant now he

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly you know, he just loves it. He loves And

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<v Speaker 2>then he tried it with me. I'm like, no, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's no f and way I'm going to keep track

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<v Speaker 2>of I swear. I'm I'm fine with the amount of

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<v Speaker 2>swearing that I do. I like it. I'm very comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>What does Indy like to spend his money on?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. Nothing. I mean there's stuff the

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<v Speaker 2>kid wants for nothing, like we you know, if he

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<v Speaker 2>wants something for real, we usually buy it for like

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas or his birthday. Usually gets big things that he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like if we go somewhere, like he always

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<v Speaker 2>needs clothes because he's growing, so we're constantly buying him

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<v Speaker 2>like shirts that he wants. As far as like we

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<v Speaker 2>go somewhere and he's like, I want a T shirt

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<v Speaker 2>from this plaace or whatever, We'll buy it for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like and then stuffed animals. He has like

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<v Speaker 2>an entire stuffy kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so yeah, my kids are rifriend is ruck.

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<v Speaker 2>I never was into stuffed anim Yeah. So so every

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<v Speaker 2>time we're like somewhere, he begs for like a little

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<v Speaker 2>stuffed animal if we're traveling, So we end up buying

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<v Speaker 2>him that. But like, otherwise, what else do you want?

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<v Speaker 4>Kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't know what you need? And yet he

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<v Speaker 2>wants money. He wants the idea of money, and we

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<v Speaker 2>like we did open up a like little bank account

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and you know, we try to keep track

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<v Speaker 2>of it, but he never spends it. He never needs

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like, what are we doing? This is so anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Alex owe him thirty eight bucks. He's holding her to it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I don't know what he would do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, my kids have gotten gift cards for their

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<v Speaker 3>birthdays and then they've just kind of sat in a drawer.

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<v Speaker 3>And then every now and then, Jensen, like since I've

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<v Speaker 3>been you know, during the Dancing with the Stars run,

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<v Speaker 3>Jensen would say, Uh, if you guys are really good

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<v Speaker 3>this week this weekend, I will take you shopping and

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<v Speaker 3>you can use your gift card.

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<v Speaker 1>And they would be like what.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they'd get to walk into a store and

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<v Speaker 3>pick something with their gift card. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>also the cutest thing that both of them are obsessed with.

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<v Speaker 3>They still have more money on the gift card, right, so,

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<v Speaker 3>like they had a twenty five dollars card, but they

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<v Speaker 3>only bought a fifteen dollars thing. And then they come

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<v Speaker 3>home and they're like, look what I got. I spent

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<v Speaker 3>my own money on it, and I still have money

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<v Speaker 3>on the gift card and I'm like, wow, They really

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<v Speaker 3>they're enjoying that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what else Adler really likes, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of funny to me, is he likes spending the gift

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<v Speaker 5>card money. But I've asked him, we'll bring this money

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<v Speaker 5>along in case you need more, and he's like, the

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<v Speaker 5>actual money.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been having this weird thing the last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks where we've realized Indy has a very accurate assessment

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<v Speaker 2>of the value of money. Oh like we would have,

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<v Speaker 2>we assumed because he talks about like wanting to be

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire or whenever talks about money, talks about it

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<v Speaker 2>in like kid terms. But at one point we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>how much do you think that would cost? We asked

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<v Speaker 2>him about a car or something, and he nailed the

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<v Speaker 2>price exactly, and then we were like, how much do

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<v Speaker 2>you think our house costs? Nailed it? We're like what,

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<v Speaker 2>So now our big thing is we just quiz him

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<v Speaker 2>on like how much do you and he's pretty accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea where he got this, because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk about money in front of it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>not like something we but at somewhere along the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and I encourage because I've had this conversation with other

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<v Speaker 2>parent friends who they just assume their kid doesn't. But

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<v Speaker 2>I ask your kid, ask your kid, like how much

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<v Speaker 2>do you think? And I think right around this age,

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<v Speaker 2>So Indy's gonna turn eleven next month. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>like when you really do start kind of figuring it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the idea of like a million dollars right, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of gets into perspective and you're like, what does a

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars buy? Or I don't know how he's picked

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<v Speaker 2>it up, but he actually has picked it up, and

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<v Speaker 2>like we're kind of impressed. I'm like, all right, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>but he still doesn't do anything with money or no,

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<v Speaker 2>what you know he wants to buy? But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he wants to be a billionaire. And I keep

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<v Speaker 2>saying to him, I'm like, doesn't that sound kind of miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what would you do? What would you are?

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to sound miserable to him?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I don't know what he wants to do

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<v Speaker 2>with it, Like he just wants the status, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>like what you would you act? I was like, do

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<v Speaker 2>you realize if you're a billionaire, everybody around you is

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<v Speaker 2>constantly asking you for money because they know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>you can afford it and you're never going to like

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<v Speaker 2>really lose it. And he's like, yeah, I guess that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>But but like I think about that, and I think,

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<v Speaker 3>why would that bother me? If it's never gonna it

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<v Speaker 3>is true, it's never going to actually affect me. If

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<v Speaker 3>I would, I would love to have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Searching it away and everybody. But think about it. You

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<v Speaker 2>have like you have like probably ten people and your

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<v Speaker 2>immediate circle like family, and like, yeah, you know that,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, I'm going to help them out. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to buy them a house. And then if you're

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<v Speaker 2>really worth a billion dollars, you're gonna have like another

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<v Speaker 2>twenty people. Yeah, like hey, could you help me out?

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<v Speaker 2>And you'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll help you out.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen. I don't mean to put Danielle on blast here,

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<v Speaker 5>but her charitable heart is humongous.

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<v Speaker 1>It all sounds amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 5>She helps people, She helps people secretly in so many

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<v Speaker 5>times financially.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but also I do think then it would be like,

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<v Speaker 3>once you've asked and I have helped, you say it's

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<v Speaker 3>like I need help with a down payment for a house,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would be like yes, absolutely, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my medical bills or you know, yes, or I am

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<v Speaker 3>struggling to put food on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>But then once you're like out of that situation. If

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<v Speaker 3>it were like three months later or even a year later,

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<v Speaker 3>and you were like, I really want to take a trip,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like we No, No, we did that already.

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<v Speaker 1>I I help.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave you, I gave you. Would would never end

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<v Speaker 2>I know you would be in this you'd be in

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<v Speaker 2>this position of like endless loop and yeah, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like where do you draw the line? Because I like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>my people in my town, people in my country. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to help everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, that is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd have no money. That's why I want to

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<v Speaker 3>be a billionaire. I want to be a billionaire so

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<v Speaker 3>that I could give it all away, all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you'll never be a billion because you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be somewhat prudent and somewhat selfish.

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<v Speaker 3>thinks it's a mandatory courtesy amongst fellow Prius owners to

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<v Speaker 3>wave at each other as they pass in the street,

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<v Speaker 3>a little head nod to say I'm part of the

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<v Speaker 3>club too, And I often think being a former child

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<v Speaker 3>actor has the same unwritten rules. It's such a small

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<v Speaker 3>group of people, some still in the business thriving, some

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<v Speaker 3>who've entered a new field of work completely, but no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what, we all share a unique experience that shaped

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<v Speaker 3>our lives at a young, impressionable age, and it's impossible

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<v Speaker 3>to fully explain to those who didn't live it. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of us feel comfortable around fellow

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<v Speaker 3>child actors, knowing there's a shorthand and care we treat

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<v Speaker 3>each other with. And so this week's guest, though we've

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<v Speaker 3>never met her, is someone we would absolutely give the

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<v Speaker 3>Prius wave too. She broke onto the scene at just

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<v Speaker 3>seven years old in the nineteen ninety two thriller The

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<v Speaker 3>Hand that Rocks the Cradle, quite a first gig, and

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't much later that she book the type of

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<v Speaker 3>sitcom you dream of playing. Grace Sheffield on The Nanny,

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<v Speaker 3>a hit show that lasted six seasons in catapulted fran

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<v Speaker 3>Dresser and the entire cast into the spotlight, but where

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<v Speaker 3>some seven year olds who grew up on a sound

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<v Speaker 3>stage living in front of a live studio audience might

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<v Speaker 3>rebel against the industry. Now, as an adult, she has

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<v Speaker 3>continued to appear on tons of TV shows, including Gray's.

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<v Speaker 1>Anatomy, Heroes, California, Caation.

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<v Speaker 3>You, and Hacks, as well as movies like Subservience and Bombshell.

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<v Speaker 3>Also worth noting.

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<v Speaker 1>As a child, she starred in the Hulk.

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<v Speaker 3>Hogan vehicle Mister Nanny, and yes I will be asking

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<v Speaker 3>her about that. And so this week we welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>podmeets World a fellow member of the club.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Madeline Zema.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Madeline, let me turn on my on your camera

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<v Speaker 4>so we can sign that. Okay, I don't know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>really bad as.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you did it, you did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, every time you enter a zoom room, there's always

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<v Speaker 3>there's always so many things.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, am I going to do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the camera on? Where's the mute?

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<v Speaker 4>And then it's just I'm I'm like, I'm an a'm millennial,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I guess we all are. Issue every single time technology,

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<v Speaker 4>just I'm not good.

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<v Speaker 3>I've recently went on TikTok live and every time, the

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<v Speaker 3>most embarrassing part is where I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, how do I exit? Is it this button?

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<v Speaker 3>And like you're still on live as people are watching

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<v Speaker 3>you be old and just not know how to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's called the millennial pause, right, yes, yeah, where

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<v Speaker 4>it's like and it's we can't hide it. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I am great getting older because what's the alternative.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly? The sweet sweet sleep of death.

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<v Speaker 3>So Maln, thank you for joining us as fellow members

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<v Speaker 3>of a child the Child Actor fraternity.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot to chat about.

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<v Speaker 3>You were born in Kaneta, like our dear friend Wilfred Ell,

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<v Speaker 3>who unfortunately could not make it today. But when did

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<v Speaker 3>you start making that trip into the city to start auditioning.

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<v Speaker 4>My first job was when I was twenty eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>What oh you were Yeah? Were young?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I was young. I'm actually happy Will did not

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<v Speaker 4>join because he was my childhood crush.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh man, We're going to have to redo this

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<v Speaker 1>when he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So twenty eight months, my mom took me on an

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<v Speaker 4>open call that she saw in the paper, which was

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<v Speaker 4>for a national campaign called come on into Downy if

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<v Speaker 4>you know UK. We were all so young, so I

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<v Speaker 4>think it was like nineteen eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven, Oh my gosh, and I was just.

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<v Speaker 4>About two years old, and I was one of I

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<v Speaker 4>think thousands of There was at least a thousand baby

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<v Speaker 4>at the open call, and I somehow booked the job

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<v Speaker 4>and I managed to keep working in a Do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the audition?

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<v Speaker 4>What I remember was having fun.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like I literally.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I just felt like I owned that room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. You walked out and you were like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Go home, nine hundred and ninety nine other babies. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I I you know, I just I honestly just always

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<v Speaker 4>loved being around people, and I loved playing they believe,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm sure we all did, and do you know,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's a natural part of being a kid. So

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<v Speaker 4>I've always I always kind of rail against when people

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<v Speaker 4>are like child actors, and you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of stank around that term, and I always want to

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<v Speaker 4>highlight the success stories because people don't ever do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Brian Gosling was a child actor. DiCaprio was a

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<v Speaker 4>child actor. Reese Witherspoon was a child actor. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>like super intelligent, loved people who had to confront really

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<v Speaker 4>early things like identity, success, showing up on time, Like

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<v Speaker 4>those are things maybe too early to confront it twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four months, So that's of damage. But there's also a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of things that were you know, instill that I

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<v Speaker 4>still feel like are amazing qualities too.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, yeah, I don't know, I feel very

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<v Speaker 4>grateful for my weird path.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, we are right there with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we talk about it all the time that like,

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<v Speaker 3>are there moments that are that are tough or difficult, Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but also like some of those moments made us who

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<v Speaker 3>we are today, and like it wouldn't trade any of

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<v Speaker 3>the lessons or the experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you guys never get can I ask you a question?

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<v Speaker 4>I know that Do you ever get tired of being asked?

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<v Speaker 4>Both of you guys? I mean, I know, Danielle, this

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<v Speaker 4>is like the thing that everybody says to you, like

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<v Speaker 4>all the time. Do you get tired of people asking you?

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<v Speaker 4>Like it it's saying like I had a crush on

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<v Speaker 4>you growing up? Is that like something that you like?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you see that gracefully to both you and Ryder.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's just a thank you. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's it's there's there's not much more

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<v Speaker 2>you could say. I mean, I feel like people saying

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<v Speaker 2>they have a crush is like cool, thanks. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also just like you can't return the sentiment because

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<v Speaker 2>you're just meeting them, right, so you can't be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a history with you, because you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it took me a long time to get

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with the idea that like one sided history is

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily a bad thing, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I used to be like that's weird, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know you, and I would be alienated by that.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of pushed the the like put up my walls.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's only recently that I've been able to say like, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of cool. Like when I think about how

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<v Speaker 2>I felt about people I saw in movies or on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, yeah I would I had feelings for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you know the hardest part was when

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<v Speaker 2>we were actually teenagers and we were meeting other teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>That was uncomfortable because then it was like I know you,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, You're a part of my life, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, no, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, and they're like we could probably date, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we could hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with writer that the hardest part was as

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<v Speaker 3>a teenager and then and then always second guessing whether

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<v Speaker 3>somebody was really interested in getting to know you or

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of in love with the idea of you.

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<v Speaker 3>As an adult, I always accept it never gets old

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<v Speaker 3>hearing that somebody had a crush. It's never get it's

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<v Speaker 3>never like annoying or like whatever. It's always very complimentary.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's definitely I feel a distance from it. I

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<v Speaker 3>know that what they felt was physical attraction. They thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was an attractive person, and they loved the concept

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<v Speaker 3>of who they thought I was based on a character

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<v Speaker 3>I was playing. So I'm I'm very aware that they're

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<v Speaker 3>not actually telling me they had a crush on me.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a crush on their idea of me, based

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<v Speaker 3>on one aspect of me that is me, myhysical appearance,

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<v Speaker 3>and the other that's mostly written by Michael Jacobs.

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<v Speaker 1>See what they love is my physical body with Michael Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Say thank you, and it's yeah, it's never what about

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<v Speaker 3>for you? Is that an awkward situation for you?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean people don't normally say that because I was

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<v Speaker 4>young and not like I wasn't you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I had a long awkward phase. So no, people don't

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<v Speaker 4>really people know. People don't come at me like that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. Like people will say things

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<v Speaker 4>that are wildly inappropriate from the californication stuff. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 4>they'll say things that are like gross, and I just

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<v Speaker 4>hope that you know that you can laugh it off

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<v Speaker 4>and move on or witty to say. But most of

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<v Speaker 4>the time you just stand there stunned, kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like huh yeah cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I wish a guy would step in and

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<v Speaker 4>just be like, back off, buddy. I wish I had

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<v Speaker 4>like a and I have. I have had some guy

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<v Speaker 4>friends or like boyfriends or whatever be like hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, I need you to take a step.

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<v Speaker 4>Back, man, But no, like I haven't. I haven't had

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<v Speaker 4>too many people be like crush on you growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>Mostly people tell me they had a crush on friend

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<v Speaker 4>dresser and I'm like, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Let her know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know, speed doll right here, hold on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>brand soly Maroney.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with what's your name? What exactly Kevin keV.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you also have two sisters who are in the business.

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<v Speaker 3>How did did the three of you were you were

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<v Speaker 3>you guys attacking auditions as a trio?

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<v Speaker 4>We attacking you know, We're We're all just We're all

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<v Speaker 4>just had the creative and performative bug. But then also

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<v Speaker 4>my mother was a dancer. She owned her the studio,

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<v Speaker 4>and so she instead of being a dance mom because

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<v Speaker 4>I was in dance, and then I had the chance

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<v Speaker 4>to be like, Okay, I'm gonna do this or do that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I wanted to play make believe. And then my

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<v Speaker 4>sisters were like I was the oldest, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>wait when I do that? And then so and it

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<v Speaker 4>just we got incredibly as you guys know, like it's

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<v Speaker 4>talent to a certain degree, but then it's also luck.

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<v Speaker 4>And we all got lucky. And we were all on

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<v Speaker 4>network shows in the nineties. So I was on The Nanny,

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<v Speaker 4>Yvonne was on Er, and Vanessa was on a short

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<v Speaker 4>lived show called Murder One with Stanley Tucci and Daniel

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<v Speaker 4>It was a Stephen Bogcoch show. And we were just

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<v Speaker 4>really were lucky. And yeah, I mean, I booked I

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<v Speaker 4>booked Julie's gold when I was on the Nanny and

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't let me out to do it, and then

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<v Speaker 4>my sister Vanessa ended up doing it and Peter Fonda

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<v Speaker 4>won a Golden Globe for that, So I mean we

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<v Speaker 4>I feel so grateful for them because I truly don't

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<v Speaker 4>know who I would be or if I would have survived,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like the rejection, thirty years of rejection leaves

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<v Speaker 4>an imprint on you. And then having other people who

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<v Speaker 4>were there every step of the way and they get

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<v Speaker 4>it and they have your back is like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the greatest gift. But you have brothers and sisters. And

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<v Speaker 4>I worked with your brother I think on a movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I worked with Chris, Right, that's your brother

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<v Speaker 4>or Silo.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like you, I was just checked out, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother Chris.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, brother's name is Shiloh. I got this

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<v Speaker 4>so wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>So wrong? No, my brother? Yes, wow, okay, on what movie?

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<v Speaker 4>I think on a movie called I Am Watching You,

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<v Speaker 4>he was an a D.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he my brother is an a D. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been a he's been a line producer. He goes back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth between those two that's so cool. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll have to tell him I'm talking to you today.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't think I've ever met Shiloh, but I

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<v Speaker 4>did do running charades one time at your fam with Rachel.

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Racheler invited me to her house and and that's how

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<v Speaker 4>I know that Ryder has like an encyclopedic knowledge of

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<v Speaker 4>film is very impressive. So but yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>So funny to me that how different Writer and I

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<v Speaker 3>are because one of the ways my husband always knows

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<v Speaker 3>when someone's actually met me or not is if they

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 3>say anything about being at a chain restaurant. I met

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Danielle once in Orange County at an Applebee's and jen Z's.

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<v Speaker 3>That's definitely happened. And with Writer, anytime somebody mentions running charades,

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, that definitely happened. Like that definitely happened

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 3>you guys. You guys definitely hung out.

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<v Speaker 2>But so, how did your family manage three different shows

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time? Was your parents are bouncing between sets?

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<v Speaker 4>Like no, my mom, my dad had a full time job.

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 4>He's still a computer programmer, even though he should have retired.

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I'm never going to retire. Still just got

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<v Speaker 4>rehired at a new company doing computer programming. Wow, I know,

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 4>and today's it's his birthday. Happy birthday, dad, little Scorpio father.

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<v Speaker 4>How did my mom manage it? I don't know. She's insane,

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 4>My mother is, you know, she just finished a novel.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just like the most vicious person. Like, yeah, she's

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 4>she's bedridden and blind and she did a novel. She

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<v Speaker 4>was like, she did it on an app called plod

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 4>where you just you dictate and then it records everything

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<v Speaker 4>down and my sister helps her edit it, and she

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<v Speaker 4>just she's she's the most ambitious person I've ever met.

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<v Speaker 4>So it truly wasn't us. My mom did it all

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 4>and would hire her sisters. She's the eldest of seven,

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 4>so she's like a natural boss sisters to take care

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 4>of us. So we had Aunt Susie taking me to

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<v Speaker 4>the nanny and then like she would take Yvonne into

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<v Speaker 4>you know whatever show and then hire or have somebody else.

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 4>Cousin April would take us to take Vanessa to you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like we were all it was like that. She she

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<v Speaker 4>had employees and she was running like a little mini empire,

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<v Speaker 4>but not really because we weren't making that much money.

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<v Speaker 1>But was she always blind or has she gone blind?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, she's she's gotten blind over years. Not to like

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 4>bring down the vibe, but yeah, yeah, you know had

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 4>like long long term stuff health and all that stuff. Yeah, wow,

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 4>she's again she's doing better than.

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 2>All of us.

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously the strongest, happiest brain.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>I wrote a novel and I'm like, oh god, I

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:19.959
<v Speaker 3>just all I want to do today is take a nap.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm so so impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Was moving to la always.

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<v Speaker 3>Something your family event like talked about doing eventually or wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to give all the credit to my mom

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<v Speaker 4>because my dad had a job on the East coast

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:40.719
<v Speaker 4>in Pennsylvania. We had our whole family there, and I

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 4>think it's like she took me to pilot season was

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<v Speaker 4>really happening on the West coast and I was working,

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 4>so it was like it seemed to make sense and

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 4>it was just her kaka mami idea to be like,

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to take our whole family. She took me out,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, just initially.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 1>And then I looked a.

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 4>Show called Our Song with George Hamilton and Lauren tom

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 4>who played on Friends. We Know Lauren, Yeah, you know Laurence.

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 4>She's just lovely, lovely, the sweetest. I've run into her

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 4>recently and she just always is just like the loveliest

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 4>human being. So I worked with her and that show

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't get picked up, and then I think the very

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<v Speaker 4>next pilot season, I got The Nanny, and so that

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 4>was that and it kind of was like, we have

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 4>to stay out here.

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<v Speaker 3>Now before we jump into The Nanny. I want to

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 3>ask you about hand that rocks the Cradle.

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Ask me about everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, what was that audition?

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Like, considering it is such a creepy movie and it's

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 3>for a great director in Curtis Hansen.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can't remember the exact audition except for

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<v Speaker 4>that I wanted so badly to book it because there

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 4>was like many, you know, callbacks they like put kids

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 4>through the wringer back of the day, like callbacks for

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 4>like dude, like why, But I remember I messed up,

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Like my mom was like it would be cute if

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 4>you said, if I book this, will I get an

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 4>Academy Award? And I think it's something along the lines

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 4>of like if I booked this, am I going to

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 4>get an Oscar Mayer Award?

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Like, I got the I almost got the term right,

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 4>but then.

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<v Speaker 2>Not, which probably worked in your favor.

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 4>They were like, yeah, exactly, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so funny.

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:25.159
<v Speaker 4>And everybody was really nice on that set. Apparently I

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.959
<v Speaker 4>got to meet Leonard Cohen, who I'm like, whoa this

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 4>fan of? Because he was dating Rebecca de Morney at

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 4>the time. I don't remember, but I was watching the

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 4>documentary I'm Your Man, which is a beautiful documentary if

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.880
<v Speaker 4>you haven't seen it, and I'm like, at my mom's house,

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 4>she's like, you know you met him, right, I'm like.

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>What I met?

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 4>I met Leonard the Leonard Cohen, and yeah, anyway, so

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I was flurred by that, but just.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Goes to show how clueless we were when we were

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>kids situations just being like, well, this is just the

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>way the world works. We just go for movie a movie,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and job a job and meet all these amazing people.

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Wow, so this was your first movie. It was

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 3>also Julianne Moore's first movie. I mean, that's pretty awesome company.

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>What do you remember about working with her?

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 4>She was lovely and then her husband directed an episode

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 4>of Californication later. Oh and so I got to see her.

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 4>She came to set, and I was so nervous that

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 4>she would weirdly judge me for the nudity, because I

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, the her concept of me is when

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 4>I was a baby, and then you know, I have

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 4>done the nudity in this in this show, and I

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 4>for some reason felt like, oh, she's gonna look down

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 4>at it. And I'd forgotten about boogie Nights, I know.

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 4>And she was so nice and she couldn't have been

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 4>more warm to me, and she's like, you know, I

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 4>thought of you, and I was. She's like, I watched

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 4>this movie and it reminded me of you, and I

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 4>was thinking of how you're doing, and I was like,

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 4>you remember me. She was the sweetest. Like that just

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 4>makes I'm sure you guys feel the same way, having

0:28:57.560 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 4>been in the industry a long time. Is when someone

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 4>is talented and kind and they and they want any

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 4>in any area of life, You're just like, ugh, it

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 4>gives me hope. Yes, those lovely, kind human beings who

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 4>also have been doing it forever and they get their

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 4>moment like a Melanie Lynskey. I don't know if you

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 4>guys know her, Oh yeah, he's just like every time

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 4>I see her in something, it fills my heart with

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 4>joy because she's so brilliant, but then also she's the

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 4>kindest human being and it just and Julianne Moore from

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 4>my slivers of you know, like snapshots of time with

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 4>her was the same way.

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like love.

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Just coming at you and and and kind of people

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 4>bolstering each other up, you know.

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>We have quite a few connections between Boy Meets World

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and Hand That Rocks the Cradle.

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>First, a PA on the movie.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Lynn McCracken would become our stage manager and then a

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>director on Boy Meets World.

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And Matt McCoy was the original.

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Dad on our show, but he was replaced mm hmmm,

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 3>got nixed after the No.

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Mat McCoy is also a sweetheart.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, so I feel like just just with those connections,

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 3>we're we're already connected for life.

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, yes, on top of meeting each other's siblings

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 4>minus Shiloh.

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, we need to make that happen.

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 4>But I just I've also just like loved you guys forever,

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Like I have to say, all so so grateful to

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 4>be asked to be on the on the podcast, and

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm like am I one of the

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 4>cool kids now, you guys, because you guys were always like,

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, in in all the teen Things, and everybody

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 4>wanted to like TGI Friday like t G I f

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.959
<v Speaker 4>of like Step by Step and Boy Meets World. That

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 4>was the musty TV like Friends and Feld for our generation,

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 4>for the younger ones. Like people did not miss it.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I didn't miss it. It was like it was like

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 4>the plus. I worked with Ben Savage then on a

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 4>very uh you know, a lifetime movie. Yeah, recently or

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years back. It was like maybe ten

0:31:18.240 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 4>ish years ago called Lake Effects.

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, lake Effects. That's so funny. Wow, the connections just

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>keep rolling.

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, so, wait, what years were was the Nanny on?

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 4>The Nanny was? Good question. I don't know. I know

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 4>my ages. I was six when we did the pilot,

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 4>seven when it was picked up to series. Like, you

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 4>know how long those ye were? So I was like

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 4>already the next I was already a year older by

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 4>the time I got picked up series, So six to

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 4>seven to thirteen.

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I did you were born in eighty five?

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 4>I was born in eighty five, so I think it.

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Was ninety one, Tonty.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 2>It's about the same time. We were on the air

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 2>at the exact same time.

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, ninety two, ninety three to ninety nine, ninety eight,

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:02.479
<v Speaker 4>something like that. I don't know.

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were ninety three to two thousand, so yeah,

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>we were overlapping. How long afterhand that rocks the Cradle?

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Did you get the Nanny?

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>A year?

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So pretty quick?

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean I was working. I was just always working.

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 4>I got really lucky and I was good and I

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 4>showed up on time and had showered. I don't know,

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, so yeah, it was like the next year,

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting because you started so young, because I mean,

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like Danielle and I didn't actually start acting until we

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 2>were ten. We were late comers. Did you ever have

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the moment where we were like do I know how

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>to act? I?

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I'm still every day.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>But did you ever.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever like take an acting class or like

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>make decisions about or did you just be like, I

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>gotta I'm going to figure this out on the fly

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and keep going.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 4>You know what's funny is that, truly I had a

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of like uh insecurity around that because I started

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 4>so young, and I was like I wasn't trained, you know,

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 4>I didn't go to drama school or anything like that.

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 4>And then later I did an acting class that kind

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 4>of reinforced what I already was doing the whole time,

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 4>because as a child, you're already accessing your imagination. You're

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 4>already personalizing things like, oh, my mommy's sick, like you're

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 4>seeing your mom in front of you. You don't, you

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 4>don't think like it's you know, that whole thing of

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 4>the process and the craft of acting is to learn

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 4>how to do that. I was always just doing it

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.959
<v Speaker 4>so and I didn't have to access my inner child.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 4>My inner child shows up before I do, you know

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. Sure, you guys feel that way too.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 4>There's like such a like a strong part of that

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 4>ten year old part of yourself is more imprinted and

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 4>you're more in touch with it than the average chow right,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 4>because it was the person showing up and having to

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 4>be a professional a little earlier that most people. So

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 4>it really it reinforced later, like, oh, the craft part

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.479
<v Speaker 4>of it. I already do all those things. I already

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 4>find a song that means something, or a smell or whatever.

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Like I had a process, it just didn't really have

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 4>words for it. I was just kind of unconsciously if

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 4>that makes sense.

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally makes perfect sense. I feel like I actually

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>went more the opposite direction, like my insecurity drove me

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to like, oh, I have to figure out this craft.

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I must be doing something wrong, only to like in

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>my twenties come back around and be like, no, I

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>think the instincts were already there, Like I need to

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>go back to that sort of like you said, like

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the childhood make believe part is that's the essence of

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>acting really. But I had to go like full circle

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to come back to it, you know, because I felt

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.479
<v Speaker 2>this pressure to, like especially when I hit my early

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>twenties and everybody was coming out of theater programs, you know, suddenly,

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like my competition was like all these people who had

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>discovered acting at eighteen or twenty, and they were really,

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, well trained and could talk about acting in

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.439
<v Speaker 2>a way that I never could.

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 4>They had lingo, they had, but by the way, it

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 4>didn't you you know, it doesn't really matter, you know, Okay, cool,

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 4>they've got the fancy lingo and they've got like wind

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 4>in their sales from being like I'm a whatever graduate.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 4>We didn't have because we had the industry kind of

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 4>giving us loops of like this is how you're seen,

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 4>and you have a sense of how people see you.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Perception and reality are something that you have to confront

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 4>earlier on, which feeds insecurity. It's not like ego actually,

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.760
<v Speaker 4>which is why I think like child actors and people

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 4>who've survived in the industry a long time are such

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 4>a special breed of human because we didn't kind of

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 4>come to LA with like a grandiose sense of self. Actually,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 4>the industry sort of found us when we were just

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 4>mid stride, mid play, kind of doing our thing. And

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I think that that's I think that's a kind of

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 4>a beautiful distinction because you aren't afforded the like I'm

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>the grandiosity of some people who're here, Do you know

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.879
<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying that?

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, On the flip side, though, you also, like

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about this the other when we were kids,

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I remember being palpably aware that they were very untalented

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>kids who would get jobs, do you know what I mean? Like,

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 2>which doesn't happen as much when you're an adult. Like

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>when you're an adult, it's like there's the pool of actors.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 2>It's like you don't just get apart because you look

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>cute and hit your mark, whereas when your kids, like

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I remember a lot of times being in situations being like,

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>well this person is not an actor.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes, they're just they're cute.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.879
<v Speaker 2>They could they say the line's right and they got

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>cat or they're someone's kid, whatever, which also feeds the

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>sense of like do I belong here? Is there a

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 2>reason I'm here? Like? Do I have a right to

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>be here? I don't know?

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah. The reality of the industry is is a

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 4>is a rough one, and so the comparison and being

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 4>super hyper aware and critical of both ourselves and everyone

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 4>around us. We internalize the things that we sort of

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 4>hear whispers of or have a sense of because kids

0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 4>are so intuitive. Yeah, you don't even have to have

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 4>someone tell you something. You could feel things you know

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 4>right like on that you're like, oh, they're disappointed in

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 4>the way that that was delivered. Can you internalize those things?

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.280
<v Speaker 4>And it becomes the inner critic. That's not a critical parent,

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.760
<v Speaker 4>it's not a it's the world. And you internalize ideas

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.399
<v Speaker 4>about the way the world sees you towards yourself, which

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 4>it is not something that most people ever confront in

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 4>their lives like me I have. I had, you know,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 4>absorbed more rejection by the time I was eleven years

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 4>old that most people will absorb and their whole lives,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, and having to confront that and like process

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 4>it and do it in a healthy way without like

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, a substance or whatever like that is. I'm

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 4>really proud of the person that I've become because I've

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 4>faced down so much, how many things that most people

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 4>never look at.

0:37:53.480 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I want to talk to you about when you

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 3>remember meeting Fran Did you guys do a chemistry test?

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Yeah, yeah. I was like, who's this lady with

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 4>the voice? I didn't know it was her show was

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 4>like I think I didn't know till like later, like

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 4>one of the again, like one of the seventeen million

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 4>auditions that we hoops we had to jump through as

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 4>good little trained monkeys, And I was like this lady

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.320
<v Speaker 4>with the voice, And then at some point I realized

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 4>she was important in the.

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Room, right, you were like star.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 4>He liked me, and I remember, I do remember there

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 4>was a choice that my mom specifically told me not

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 4>to do, but I had for some reason gotten locked

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 4>into it. You know, when you're an actor and you

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 4>get clocked into a line reading or at whatever, and

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:50.399
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I had set a line and went

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 4>like this, which is such a like a little kid thing.

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 4>I went, you know, like something like that. I did

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.399
<v Speaker 4>it in the room and I was like, no, why

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 4>do I Yeah, I screwed it up, but I still

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.879
<v Speaker 4>somehow got the job. I think I was again by

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 4>that point like kind of more polished and stuff. Apparently

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 4>I auditioned for Diane Keaton when I was young, for

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 4>he called The Good Mother. She didn't direct it, but

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 4>she was in the chemistry you read, and I did

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 4>remember this that like I said hello Diane, and and

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 4>then somebody said, oh, this is Diane, and this is

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 4>everyone else, and I said hello Diane, hello everyone else.

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 4>And I guess it was so so sassy that he

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 4>was like, she's too slick and I couldn't so being

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 4>too slick for dian Keaton, which I'm honored just to

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 4>have been called that. Yeah, but but it worked out

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 4>in the Nanny because you kind of had to be

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:49.720
<v Speaker 4>sort of you know, yeah. I remember just her voice

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 4>and then I was like, those voice wasn't going to

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 4>go over again.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 3>And that was the whole thing, right, that's so funny,

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 3>and by all accounts, it seems like she really had

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>to stand up for herself a lot on this show,

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 3>and in the nineties that was not an easy thing

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 3>for women in the industry. Do you recall her ever

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 3>having to be kind of a tough ass and put

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 3>her foot down so that she could accomplish her vision.

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 4>I think that's just naturally who she is. Yeah, I

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 4>think that's just naturally who she is. I think there's

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 4>even there's even like old I'm gonna get called someone's

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 4>gonna throw a spirit at me for saying this, But

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 4>there's old interviews of Pran where she's like, yeah, I'm

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 4>a bu and she kind of just owned that. Maybe

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 4>before that was something that women could own, right, and

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 4>she could stand in the fact that she made that

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 4>happen for herself. Do you guys know how the Nanny

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 4>got Greenland and got made No, she was on a flight,

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 4>on a flight, like a first class flight, and she

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 4>happened to be sitting next to Jeff Sagansky, like the

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 4>president of CBS, and she started pitching him her show,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 4>and like by the time the plane landed, she basically

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 4>had a shunbelievable, Like stuff like that doesn't happen anymore.

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 4>But she just was one of those people who, like

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 4>my mother, believed in herself and in fight of everything

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 4>else and everyone else, someone could be that part of

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 4>ourselves where we internalized the critic. She didn't have that, Yeah,

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 4>had an internal part of herself that was like I'm

0:41:21.680 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 4>doing this and yeah, you know, I'm the star and

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 4>I feel, you know, like comfortable with all that and

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 4>that it's yeah. So I definitely saw many moments like that.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that influenced you at all? Like, did that?

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Was that? Okay?

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I love that, It definitely did.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 4>But I also was like, you know, there's there everyone

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 4>is a teacher, right, so like there are certain things

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 4>that you take from every single person, and you're like,

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 4>some things you're like and some things you're like. You know,

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 4>so there are both of those things were true on

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 4>that set. You know, I think it was beautiful to

0:41:55.600 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 4>have a woman be so powerful and owning herself so much.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 4>But also, you know, I think I was young and

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't know to celebrate all those things at the time

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 4>because at that time women still were judged really harshly,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 4>and I probably was a part of that, you know,

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 4>societal soup. If that mean yeah, I didn't learn until

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 4>later that like about feminism or about although my mom

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 4>was always very like strong, powerful woman, but there were

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 4>things about those those aspects of a personality that I

0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:40.959
<v Speaker 4>really shied away from that I that I didn't feel

0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 4>safe in, if that makes sense.

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 3>I think as a child it as an actor, it's

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 3>impossible to have embraced seeing that because we are told

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's apparent when you look around you that being

0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 3>a team player and being easy to work with and

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.479
<v Speaker 3>being directionable, those are the things that get you work.

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Those are the things that make you an asset. And

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 3>we're constantly chasing the validation of I. They like me

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 3>because I'm easy to work with. They like me because

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 3>you're a trooper.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 4>I hate that term. Oh my god. I the word

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 4>trooper is so triggering because I've done so many horror

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 4>films where you're just like kind of basically abused. We're

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 4>horrible to work on. I don't know any actor who

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 4>actually enjoys it under.

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I went through, I went through my face but no, no,

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 2>now now I want to direct them.

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I get it, I get it, but like, but like

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 4>as a girl in a horror film have to be.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Naked and you.

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 4>And it's freezing and it's you and you're covered in

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 4>sticky you know, cold blood and and you're like, you

0:43:55.280 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 4>know so and then they're making like, you know, five

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 4>dollars barely covering your gas to get to debt. To

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 4>be honest, maybe.

0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:06.439
<v Speaker 2>You have a honeywagon if you're on location, and.

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, I've done so many of those, and

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 4>so I whenever people would be like you're such a trooper,

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 4>it's usually after you've hurt yourself and you're noting the

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 4>company and you're like, right right, yeah, you can fire

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 4>a file for workers comp and like, why didn't I

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:24.360
<v Speaker 4>do that?

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, So as the show starts to catch fire, it

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:46.320
<v Speaker 3>becomes a global sensation. How did you keep a level head?

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 3>And what was your school situation? Were you in a

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 3>traditional school or were you home schools? What were what

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 3>were you doing?

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 4>What? I want to know what you guys were doing too?

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I was, I was in regular school.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>So was that public school?

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, what a mistake. Our parents so bad? Okay, sorry,

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 4>but like no, our parents messed up. Like I was

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 4>in public school with Burbank.

0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>There weren't a whole lot of options back then. Like

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 2>now you meet child actors and they're all like online

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>school or they do like correspondence courses, like I went

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 2>to a tiny like alternati hippie school in northern California

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and they were just they were just like do whatever

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>you want, which is fine, but like otherwise, there wasn't

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>that many options unless.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, like, dude, I was bullied. I don't know

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 4>about you, Danielle, were you bullied into? Like for me,

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:38.799
<v Speaker 4>it was brutal, like I was not like like I

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 4>don't know I was.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 5>I was.

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people would come after me and like chase me

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 4>down after class, like it was. It was so bad

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 4>that they took me out of school.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Actually, oh my gosh, Bourbank. I feel like, were there

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.720
<v Speaker 3>not other child actors at your school?

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 4>I didn't, you know, No, not not at not at

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 4>Miller Elementary, and not at John Muir. John Muir was

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.320
<v Speaker 4>really bad, but no, there were no other child actors.

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I should have been in and and then eventually I

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 4>was at homeschooled. Yeah, but it was it was not

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.240
<v Speaker 4>it was a bad move. It was a bad okay

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 4>because I was there for right, You're like working for

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 4>three weeks and you have hiatus. Yeah, so that one

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 4>week a month, I'm back in school.

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I did.

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:23.959
<v Speaker 4>Target. Well did you go did you have other child

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 4>actors that were like at the were you in public

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 4>school like.

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I was in public school?

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I and and there were other child actors,

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 3>not necessarily in junior high, not necessarily other kids that

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 3>were gone as often as I was, And so there

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 3>was like, I don't I wouldn't even call it bullying.

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 3>There were some people that would, like, you know, throw

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.479
<v Speaker 3>an insult at me occasionally, like.

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the princess is back, welcome, but you know you,

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 1>where have you been?

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Like there was some of that, but I was never

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 3>like aggressively, I was not. I would never even call

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 3>it bullying. And then in high school, after I had

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 3>already been because we started Boy Meets World when I

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 3>was in sixth grade, So I went through sixth, seventh,

0:47:01.680 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 3>and eighth, and then all basically all those same kids

0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 3>just moved to high school with me. And by then

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 3>it was just like yeah, old news, Danielle's you know,

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Danielle's famous, and and and I had no issues.

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was never experiencing like the famous part, like

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 4>nobody wanted to be my friend because of Not The Nanny.

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 4>I think because on your show it was a little

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 4>bit more about the kids, like right right, and your

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 4>storylines were important, and so yours is important. On The Nanny,

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 4>we were we were sort of props, like both like

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, just we weren't really we had one or

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 4>two storylines the first season and then that was like

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 4>not really, we weren't really like a part. We were

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 4>part of the show just because the show was called

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 4>The Nanny, but we weren't really like and it didn't

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 4>feel like we were a really important part of the show.

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>So how many of you were how many of you

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>were there? There was Nicole, Tom, you.

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 4>And Ben Salisbury. It was three of us three nights.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 2>And were you guys all in set school together?

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 4>We were all in set school together.

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:02.680
<v Speaker 2>One studio teacher or did you have two?

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 4>We had one one studio teacher, and then eventually they

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:08.280
<v Speaker 4>all graduated and I got to have two studio teachers.

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 4>I had had Leslie Hall. I don't know if she's

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 4>still around or not, but she was amazing, and then

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:18.319
<v Speaker 4>I had more Murray Mednick. I don't know, I don't

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 4>know if the last guy's name what his last name

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 4>was not Medniic, but but he did. He did. My

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 4>I had like a private, you know, school education in

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 4>a way because he taught me Latin like trigonometry and

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 4>something else like at the same and algebra the same.

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 4>Like he would come in special days just for my

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, you know, elective courses. So I was grateful

0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 4>for that extra attention around my schooling to a certain degree.

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:51.320
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, we were all in set school. Banking

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 4>hours you guys remember that?

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yeah, remember the banking hours. You're going

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.200
<v Speaker 3>to bank today? All right, We've got enough banked hours.

0:48:58.239 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 3>You can work all day.

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 4>I love those days when I got to just be

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 4>on I don't know about you guys. Were you just

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 4>same that, You're like, I'm one of the big kids.

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 4>I get to do what I actually enjoy doing, and

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 4>and I just felt like it was the best. Yeah.

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 3>We always talk about loving the multi caam aspect of

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Boy meets World. Being in front of a live studio audience.

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 3>Did you like that putting on a weekly play aspect

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 3>of it all?

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it was so exciting, and honestly, I think

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.439
<v Speaker 4>everybody felt like once we got rid of the live

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.280
<v Speaker 4>audience that the show started to decline.

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you know do you know why you guys got

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>rid of the audience?

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. It wasn't obviously about my pay grade,

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 4>but I have no idea. But I know that once

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 4>we started having the laughers come in, did you guys

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 4>grab laughers?

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Not on?

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Boy?

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>No, did you show shows I direct? Now we use laughers?

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh cool? So so you guys both direct. Now I've

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 4>directed a little bit, but it's been very hard to

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 4>like break in that. So it's the best feeling, right,

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 4>every all the all the all the experience that you

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 4>guys have, you finally get to put it into something

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 4>and be sensitive to the actors communicate and then when

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 4>the children on set, you have this extra understanding and

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 4>sensitivity around that like it's it's it's a again, there's

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 4>amount the amount of experience and value that you bring

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 4>from just that much skin in the game, right that

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 4>ours doing something like Jody Foster is what.

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.160
<v Speaker 2>And actors feel it. They they they when you walk

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 2>on set and you're an actor who's turned director, they're

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 2>so much more comfortable. There's immediately like, oh you get

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>what's going on here, and it puts everybody at ease.

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's like a superpower. It's so wonderful.

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, like Jody Foster is one of the same,

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 4>like where you're just like But it's funny though to me,

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 4>the the perceptions in the industry where it's like Jody

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 4>Foster is is this amount of value And then like

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I've always felt like lesser because of being a child actor.

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you can felt that way. So

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 4>it's like you almost have like more of a chip

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.800
<v Speaker 4>on your shoulder to prove, like I have intelligence and

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 4>and like and all these other things to offer. Yeah,

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but that's so cool that you guys

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 4>both directed. I wasn't. I didn't know that you directed

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:14.959
<v Speaker 4>to Danielle. That's so cool.

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 3>On a on a weird uh, it's going to feel

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 3>like a tangent, but it is a related note.

0:51:20.160 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any trouble picking out.

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 3>Your clothes or getting getting dressed on a regular basis?

0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>I have.

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 4>I have executive dysfunction, like on a make your level.

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you guys have that, because you

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 4>know so much, so many decisions were decided for you,

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:41.400
<v Speaker 4>so that that that confidence in yourself definitely is something

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 4>that like when I'm not resourcing and having like Meditated

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 4>and Daniella taking care of myself, I definitely get overwhelmed.

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 4>And when I'm hungry. When I'm hungry, it's like my

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 4>partner is like, you need to eat because I can't,

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 4>Like I can't function if I get on angry, it's

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 4>just like I leave my body or something.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, craft service always there, I don't know, and.

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Still my favorite part of set. It's like this is

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.880
<v Speaker 4>ninety percent of while I still do this all the time,

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 4>and I still always like will steal like a banana

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 4>or an apple, like like I've got to squirrel the.

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:19.799
<v Speaker 7>Way to bring this home, got to bring this home,

0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.360
<v Speaker 7>got to bring food home wearing it for later.

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 1>You guys have that, yeah, yeah we yeah. And before we.

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Started this podcast, I realized that like I practically have

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a panic attack every time I'm getting changed, Like I

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.319
<v Speaker 2>like I just hate putting on clothes. And I like

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 2>went into the other room to ask my wife. I

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, just getting dress stressed you out? And She's like,

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? And I realized it was

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 2>like all right, because we always had like little quick

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 2>change rooms between scenes that we'd had to go and

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like change while the audience is waiting the whole crew,

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and I just totally internalized that I still like can't

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>stand changing clothes.

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 3>I also have no idea what does or does not

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 3>look good on me. I have no idea what my

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.480
<v Speaker 3>taste or style is. I just if I.

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Don't go into the room and have.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 3>A fully put together outfit of like here's your belt,

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 3>here's your shoes, and I'll hang it all back up.

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm neat and tidy and I'll do a t I'm

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.200
<v Speaker 3>a trooper, I'm a team player. But I just don't

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.959
<v Speaker 3>know it's been picked for me. Where's my polaroids?

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm the same. I literally put this sweater on and

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 4>then I looked at the at the frame beforehand, you

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 4>know you check the thing on the zooke, and I

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 4>was like, that looks crazy. I was like, I better

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 4>take that off myself. It's not too cold. But yeah,

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 4>I definitely have that, and clothes have always stressed me out.

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't like shopping, I don't like putting on outfits.

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.800
<v Speaker 4>The whole thing I rejected. So yeah, I'm not a

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 4>girlways into clothes never happened.

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 3>While researching The Nanny, I did uncover one of the

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 3>weirdest facts about the show. Roger Clinton, the brother of

0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 3>President Bill Clinton, appeared in three episodes.

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 4>Was wow. I didn't even know that, but yeah, he

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 4>was really nice. He was really nice. Everyone was. You know,

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 4>my mom was in love with Bill Clinton. Everybody was

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 4>so like, maybe Bill will come.

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think Bill will come?

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 4>This is like no, he was yeah, he was president,

0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 4>he was president. You know. Yeah, he was just really nice.

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Roger Clinton was a sweetheart from what I remember, very

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.200
<v Speaker 4>very nice to me. You know. Anybody who had kids

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:32.880
<v Speaker 4>and came on set was just like love. Yeah, and

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 4>even people who didn't have kids, but they was just

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 4>exciting to be like breathe the same air as them.

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 4>Like Elizabeth Taylor was on The Nanny whoa Yeah, And

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 4>there was a memo that went around that was like

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 4>we weren't allowed to look in her eyes.

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I knew it was going to

0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>be that.

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just like crazy rules that were like from a

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 4>bygone era of golden age of Hollywood. Yeah. And Donald O'Connor,

0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 4>who's the guy who does the like backwards flip and

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 4>singing the rain and he worked with Marilyn Monroe in

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 4>some movie. But he would tell me stories about Marilyn Monroe.

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 4>When I was little, Jason Alexander was on the Nanny

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 4>and did like the time step with me. I was like,

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 4>I know how to do a time step because of

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.799
<v Speaker 4>my little bit of dance backgrounds. It was like, you know,

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 4>I was showing he's like very good and I was

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 4>like torch kids, Dancel likes my time, you know. And

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:25.600
<v Speaker 4>he was so sweet. So it's like I always remember

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 4>the people who were so generous and like lovely with me. Yeah.

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:31.479
<v Speaker 3>Well, we grew up in a really like Boy Meets

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 3>World was a very family environment. But that's partially and

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe mostly because we were a kid more of a

0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 3>kid slash family show.

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.760
<v Speaker 1>What was set like for you guys?

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Was it did it feel more like an adult adult

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 3>environment that you were thrust into or did it did

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 3>it all?

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 1>See?

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 4>I did feel more like it wasn't. I'm always like

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm always you know, I don't have much of a filter,

0:55:58.560 --> 0:56:01.480
<v Speaker 4>so it's really difficult all the time. I'm like, okay,

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.719
<v Speaker 4>just it was. It was an adult environment for sure.

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:08.959
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like you know, uh, it wasn't oriented around

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:09.400
<v Speaker 4>the children.

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, on it exactly exactly.

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.400
<v Speaker 4>And then there were a lot of grown up, you

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:18.360
<v Speaker 4>know jokes, and it's like, we got to throw the

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 4>kid out of the room so we can make the

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:23.600
<v Speaker 4>joke about sex out of that. I think, you know,

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 4>there's probably like will be like a mash up somewhere

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:27.880
<v Speaker 4>of like all the times they threw Gracie out of

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 4>the room so that she could say something sassy or yeah.

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 4>So it was like it was more like that. And

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 4>but again, like I wouldn't change any of it for

0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 4>the world. I'm not like, I'm not shading the show.

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 4>It's it's that I learned so much and I and

0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.960
<v Speaker 4>I and I grew so much from watching everyone and everything,

0:56:47.000 --> 0:56:48.719
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. But I had awareness of

0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 4>like a dirty joke earlier.

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right right, that makes sense.

0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the fashion of the nanny has had a bit

0:56:56.200 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 3>of a TikTok resurgence, a lot of pants suits, and

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I know that even Sabrina Carpenter has found inspiration in

0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 3>the outfits. Are you surprised by the nanny renaissance?

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:10.239
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not, because again, it was ahead of its time,

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:14.319
<v Speaker 4>being like a female forward show and a show that

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 4>was yeah, like outfit changes, that's like the whole thing now,

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, Sabrina Carpenter does it. Taylor Swift, It's like

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:23.800
<v Speaker 4>changed those outfits.

0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Girl.

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of impressive how much fashion was on the show,

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:33.440
<v Speaker 4>and Brenda Cooper, who was the costume designer, deserves full

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 4>credit for that because she was pulling like Bob Mackie

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:39.520
<v Speaker 4>and all these designers way before Sex and the City even.

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's like it was just ahead of its time,

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:45.439
<v Speaker 4>and then you know, everything that's old becomes new again

0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 4>as you guys never comes back around. So it doesn't

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.480
<v Speaker 4>surprise me that people are really like digging into the

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 4>Nanny and France. Fashion was like it was really the

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.440
<v Speaker 4>star of the show, aside from like, you know, her

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 4>voice and her chemistry with Charles Shawn. So like, you know,

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean Charlie, you know when I say things weren't

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:07.960
<v Speaker 4>oriented around the children, Charlie, and like, there were a

0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 4>lot of people who were great on the show. So

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm not trying to show and all that stuff. I

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 4>just want to clarify that. But yeah, I'm surprised about

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:20.240
<v Speaker 4>the Renaissance. It's just it's just it makes perfect sense

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:20.480
<v Speaker 4>to me.

0:58:22.080 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 3>You have gone on to appear in so much stuff.

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:28.800
<v Speaker 3>When you're filming Californiaication or Hacks or High Potential, does

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 3>the nanny ever come up?

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Do people talk to you about it?

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, Californication? Not really?

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Not really.

0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know people don't really ask. You know,

0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:41.600
<v Speaker 4>on sets, people are all too busy, you know, doing

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 4>their own thing and work, so people aren't really like,

0:58:44.520 --> 0:58:46.360
<v Speaker 4>what was it really like working with that person. Some

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:49.240
<v Speaker 4>people will ask about David Lynch because it's such a

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.240
<v Speaker 4>cult favorite, so people will ask about David Lynch.

0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Well that's my next question. So if you want to

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 3>go right into it, go for it.

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.720
<v Speaker 4>Well you ask a question, Okay.

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 3>So you appeared in the twenty seventeen revisit of Twin Peaks,

0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 3>and he passed away at the beginning of this year,

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 3>so I wanted to hear about what your experience was

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 3>like with him.

0:59:09.480 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 4>I have I have such fond memories of working with

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 4>David Lynch. I got to work with him for two

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 4>whole days, which was a luxurious amount of time to

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 4>shoot like basically two scenes, right, and I there was

0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 4>such a sense of like like a cold following around him,

0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 4>like he's the cult leader. And everyone's like, yes, sir,

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 4>you know that whole thing. But I'm I've never played

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 4>that game because I've just been doing this so long.

0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:37.959
<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not really starstruck by most people. Musicians

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 4>for sure, but like actors or like directors, I'm like,

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 4>I know the game, kid, And even with David Lynch,

0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I just didn't have Although I was a fan, I

0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 4>wasn't like I wanted to ask questions and I was

0:59:50.560 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 4>free to ask questions. So there is a scene where

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 4>they're they're, you know, spraying me with a ton of

0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 4>it's like two hundred and fifty gallons of blood, right,

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:03.520
<v Speaker 4>and I'm oh my gosh, naked, and everyone's we got

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 4>one shot with the blood. We got one shot with

1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the blood. And everyone's just like, you know, stressed and

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 4>freaking out. Not David, of course, he's like he's like,

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:12.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, one of those people they talk about, like

1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Steve Jobs, where reality bends and warps around them. Like

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 4>he's like on set smoking which was like not allowed,

1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:21.920
<v Speaker 4>but of course he was smoking, but just like in

1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:26.320
<v Speaker 4>this aura bubble and everyone's like okay, we got one

1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:29.720
<v Speaker 4>shot with the blood and they're about to call action,

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:33.240
<v Speaker 4>and I just like raised my little hand, my little

1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.840
<v Speaker 4>naked hand, and I was like excuse me, and everyone's

1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:40.640
<v Speaker 4>like dead, dead silent, And I was like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>think maybe instead of just doing the blood, maybe we'd

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:48.640
<v Speaker 4>just do a plate and you can add the blood

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 4>later if you wanted, and then and then you could

1:00:52.200 --> 1:00:54.840
<v Speaker 4>do the blood after that way you have an option.

1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 4>And it was dead silent. I mean, everyone just like

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 4>you really just shell Dave Lynch was to do and

1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:05.080
<v Speaker 4>and he's like, you know what, Tracy got a pretty

1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:09.240
<v Speaker 4>good idea, let's do that. So literally we did two takes.

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<v Speaker 4>We did one that was dry where they could add

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<v Speaker 4>the blood later, and one with the blood. And afterwards,

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.080
<v Speaker 4>the first Ada came up to me and was like,

1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 4>you're a very brave girl, and I was like, oh am,

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<v Speaker 4>I I didn't realize, like I just did something that

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:28.200
<v Speaker 4>made perfect sense to me from an experiential standpoint. And

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<v Speaker 4>then and then also he took it in because great

1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 4>directors like you guys, know, great people like are open

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<v Speaker 4>to the best idea in the room, no matter where.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally best idea wins.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it wins. He goes aside, let's have room for

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<v Speaker 4>the best idea. So that's my experience of David, which.

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<v Speaker 7>Was, what a cool story, what a great experience, What

1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:59.760
<v Speaker 7>a proud moment for you, Like yeah, yeah, where you're like, yes,

1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 7>I have been paying attention and to have had the

1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 7>confidence to say, listen, I'm not I'm the one in

1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 7>this body who's about to have this blood sprayed, and

1:02:12.560 --> 1:02:15.520
<v Speaker 7>to think if it goes wrong and then I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to be in.

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<v Speaker 3>This high stress. They're not never gonna be happy if

1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:21.080
<v Speaker 3>something goes wrong. They're not going to say we only

1:02:21.120 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 3>get one take, We're gonna have to do it again

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<v Speaker 3>on another day. And like if I just raise my

1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:29.960
<v Speaker 3>hand and make a suggestion, I guess it could go

1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:33.560
<v Speaker 3>one of two ways. But the like, that's just incredible.

1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:35.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm so proud of you. I like want to I

1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:38.560
<v Speaker 3>just am so that's so incredible. I'm so I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>thrilled we know that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well it was again a testament to him as

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<v Speaker 4>a as an open, you know, collaborative artist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I also cannot let you leave without talking to

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<v Speaker 3>you about the nineteen ninety three cinematic experience that is

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<v Speaker 3>mister Nanny. You appeared in the movie alongside star Hulk Hogan.

1:03:02.120 --> 1:03:04.680
<v Speaker 3>It is about a former pro wrestler who is hired

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<v Speaker 3>to be a bodyguard slash nanny for braddy kids, whose

1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:12.560
<v Speaker 3>dad is also being stalked by his business rival. I

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<v Speaker 3>need to know everything about this experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I was, okay, so there's so many things. He was

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<v Speaker 4>there with his kids. Okay, name is Terry, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just remember him like there was some scandal about him

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<v Speaker 4>right before we started, Like it was that he had

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<v Speaker 4>smoked marijuana, right which is now no going to care,

1:03:33.080 --> 1:03:36.640
<v Speaker 4>but back in the das the scandal of whole. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm no, I know that there's he's he's had some

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<v Speaker 4>other stuff come out which I haven't heard but people

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<v Speaker 4>of you know. And then I was like, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the deal is. But my little

1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:47.240
<v Speaker 4>snapshot of an experience with him was that he was

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<v Speaker 4>really the sweetest to me, and he had a think

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<v Speaker 4>a wish kid on set more than once, and he

1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:55.760
<v Speaker 4>was just you know, you know, like just he would

1:03:55.800 --> 1:04:00.160
<v Speaker 4>do his bit for whoever. It was very sweet, and

1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:02.480
<v Speaker 4>we tortured him. I mean we literally like had to

1:04:02.520 --> 1:04:06.240
<v Speaker 4>do all these crazy stunts with him and he gets electrocuted,

1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know, but he was so sweet. The director

1:04:09.720 --> 1:04:14.600
<v Speaker 4>was so sweet. I worked with Sherman Helmsley from uh

1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:19.080
<v Speaker 4>that old I can't remember the Jeffersons, the Jeffersons, Sherman

1:04:19.160 --> 1:04:22.640
<v Speaker 4>Helmsley and Mother Love, and they were both just so

1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:25.120
<v Speaker 4>warm and sweet. I have so many pictures of Mother

1:04:25.160 --> 1:04:28.120
<v Speaker 4>Love just like holding me when I'm like, oh kiddo,

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<v Speaker 4>And and everybody was just great, like I just it

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<v Speaker 4>was one of those things where I felt I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of felt like respected and like a part of it right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like a part of the whole process. And

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, Huole Cogan was just super super nice to

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<v Speaker 4>me as a kid, which was all my memory of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that's good to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My last question for you is if you could go

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<v Speaker 3>back in time and talk to let's say seven year

1:04:58.280 --> 1:05:01.760
<v Speaker 3>old Madeline, what advice would you give her? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say to her?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I do this all the time in therapy.

1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Is this the therapy?

1:05:05.920 --> 1:05:06.760
<v Speaker 1>This is the therapy part?

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<v Speaker 4>I would tell her like I would tell like any

1:05:12.200 --> 1:05:15.840
<v Speaker 4>young girl to trust themselves more than like that little

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<v Speaker 4>voice inside is right no matter what anyone else tells you.

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<v Speaker 4>And the more you trust that and you move from

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<v Speaker 4>that place of like honoring yourself, you will be happier.

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<v Speaker 4>People will recognize you more because there'll be more of

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<v Speaker 4>you there, and you'll be proud of yourself like I

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<v Speaker 4>was that day on set with David. Normally you could

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<v Speaker 4>just let that moment go by. But the courage to

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<v Speaker 4>stand up and allow yourself to be seen and to

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<v Speaker 4>speak from with you know, from an authentic place that

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<v Speaker 4>you just yeah, you just you get a point, you

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<v Speaker 4>know you kind of you, you level up, you beat

1:06:02.320 --> 1:06:06.520
<v Speaker 4>the big boss inside that that critical, internalized voice of

1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:08.600
<v Speaker 4>the world that says you can't do it, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you feel like, you know what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Be true to yourself. Don't be a trooper exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Put that on the shirt you feel something, Say something.

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<v Speaker 3>Madeline, Where what are you working on now? Where can

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<v Speaker 3>people find you? Tell us everything?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? Well, I am releasing a web series that me

1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:37.400
<v Speaker 4>and my sisters wrote together. I'm just little snippets of

1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:42.040
<v Speaker 4>it called What's Her Face? That's just for fun, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not It's very lighthearted. It's about three child actors growing

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<v Speaker 4>up with the arrested development and unable to sort of

1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:54.040
<v Speaker 4>put They're grown up, undis gone. And then I did

1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:58.480
<v Speaker 4>two films recently, one called Reunion with Ryan Hansen and

1:06:58.800 --> 1:07:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Jake Choy and and and it's it's It's gonna be

1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:05.720
<v Speaker 4>so funny. It's about a twenty year high school reunion.

1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:10.960
<v Speaker 4>And uh, I'm trying to remember everything else. And then

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<v Speaker 4>I just did a movie called The Bench that will

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<v Speaker 4>be coming out with rel Howery Little rel Yes, yeah,

1:07:17.120 --> 1:07:20.840
<v Speaker 4>from get Out and so yeah, well, you know, just

1:07:21.680 --> 1:07:24.640
<v Speaker 4>plugging away. I'm still managing to get work. And I

1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:27.200
<v Speaker 4>feel so grateful and I'm so grateful to be here

1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:27.720
<v Speaker 4>with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like one of the cool kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you are officially a part of the cool Kid

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<v Speaker 3>Pod meets World crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for spending your time with us.

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<v Speaker 3>It was wonderful talking to you, getting to know you

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, and just thank you for thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for being here with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you guys for having me. It was just a joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye, Hi, take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she got off quick. She did not have the

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<v Speaker 2>millennial pause exited.

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<v Speaker 3>She did not she knew exactly how to exit. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what I bet I bet Tara helped her exit.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, ow, she's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, so cool, My god, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's I cannot believe that it still surprises me

1:08:11.920 --> 1:08:16.040
<v Speaker 3>after this many conversations with former child actors, how many

1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:19.360
<v Speaker 3>things in common we have, it shouldn't surprise me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But the only thing I think.

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<v Speaker 3>She said that I didn't totally resonate with was when

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<v Speaker 3>she talked about how in touch with her inner child

1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:30.479
<v Speaker 3>she is. And I was like, I feel like I

1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:33.240
<v Speaker 3>don't have any access to my inner child because I

1:08:33.640 --> 1:08:36.840
<v Speaker 3>think I stuffed it so much. I think I to me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but I mean we had a different experience.

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<v Speaker 3>We were told how to be a child. We were

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<v Speaker 3>given line readings on how to be a child, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of being told to discover how to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think from the from age ten on,

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<v Speaker 3>I stopped being a child and just started pretending to

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<v Speaker 3>be a child or.

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<v Speaker 2>Just trying to be a grown up as quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well yeah, I became an adult pretending to be

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<v Speaker 3>a child, and so it was like there was no

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<v Speaker 3>real discovery of childhood or teenagehood even And then that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I spent my twenties and thirties doing I guess

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, but wow, she was really a that story

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<v Speaker 3>about David Lynch and her saying like, hey, guys, we

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<v Speaker 3>could shoot a plate.

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<v Speaker 2>You could do it a different way. This doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be this hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I can really help you out anyway.

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