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Speaker 2: Well, we said like, you can swear at home, just

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Speaker 3: And then one day he said, Mom, I know what

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Speaker 3: And then yesterday again he asked, Jensen, does the F

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Speaker 3: But yeah, my kids have gotten gift cards for their

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Speaker 2: No, but I don't know what he wants to do

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Speaker 3: But but like I think about that, and I think,

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Speaker 2: Searching it away and everybody. But think about it. You

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Speaker 2: And you'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll help you out.

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Speaker 5: Listen. I don't mean to put Danielle on blast here,

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Speaker 5: but her charitable heart is humongous.

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Speaker 1: It all sounds amazing to me.

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Speaker 5: She helps people, She helps people secretly in so many

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Speaker 3: Yes, but also I do think then it would be like,

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Speaker 3: But then once you're like out of that situation. If

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Speaker 2: I gave you, I gave you. Would would never end

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Speaker 2: like where do you draw the line? Because I like, well,

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Speaker 1: I know, that is the thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd have no money. That's why I want to

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Speaker 2: And that's why you'll never be a billion because you

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Speaker 1: It's Madeline Zema.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Madeline, let me turn on my on your camera

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Speaker 1: Right exactly? The sweet sweet sleep of death.

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Speaker 3: So Maln, thank you for joining us as fellow members

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Speaker 1: We have a lot to chat about.

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Speaker 3: You were born in Kaneta, like our dear friend Wilfred Ell,

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Speaker 4: My first job was when I was twenty eight months.

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Speaker 2: What oh you were Yeah? Were young?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I was young. I'm actually happy Will did not

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: So twenty eight months, my mom took me on an

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Speaker 1: Remember the audition?

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Speaker 4: What I remember was having fun.

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Speaker 4: I mean like I literally.

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Speaker 4: I just felt like I owned that room.

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Speaker 4: Go home, nine hundred and ninety nine other babies. No, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I I you know, I just I honestly just always

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Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, I don't know, I feel very

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Speaker 4: Do you guys never get can I ask you a question?

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Speaker 4: I know that Do you ever get tired of being asked?

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Speaker 4: Both of you guys? I mean, I know, Danielle, this

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Speaker 4: How do you see that gracefully to both you and Ryder.

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Speaker 4: I wish I wish a guy would step in and

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Speaker 4: Back, man, But no, like I haven't. I haven't had

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Speaker 4: Mostly people tell me they had a crush on friend

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, speed doll right here, hold on, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm here with what's your name? What exactly Kevin keV.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you also have two sisters who are in the business.

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Speaker 3: How did did the three of you were you were

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Speaker 4: We attacking you know, We're We're all just We're all

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Speaker 4: booked Julie's gold when I was on the Nanny and

439
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: they wouldn't let me out to do it, and then

440
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 4: my sister Vanessa ended up doing it and Peter Fonda

441
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 4: won a Golden Globe for that, So I mean we

442
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 4: I feel so grateful for them because I truly don't

443
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: know who I would be or if I would have survived,

444
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 4: you know, like the rejection, thirty years of rejection leaves

445
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 4: an imprint on you. And then having other people who

446
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 4: were there every step of the way and they get

447
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 4: it and they have your back is like, uh, you know,

448
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 4: the greatest gift. But you have brothers and sisters. And

449
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: I worked with your brother I think on a movie.

450
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: I think I worked with Chris, Right, that's your brother

451
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: or Silo.

452
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: I was like you, I was just checked out, Yeah,

453
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: my brother Chris.

454
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 4: I was like, brother's name is Shiloh. I got this

455
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: so wrong?

456
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: So wrong? No, my brother? Yes, wow, okay, on what movie?

457
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 4: I think on a movie called I Am Watching You,

458
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 4: he was an a D.

459
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he my brother is an a D. He's

460
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: been a he's been a line producer. He goes back

461
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: and forth between those two that's so cool. Oh my gosh,

462
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 3: I'll have to tell him I'm talking to you today.

463
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think I've ever met Shiloh, but I

464
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: did do running charades one time at your fam with Rachel.

465
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: Racheler invited me to her house and and that's how

466
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: I know that Ryder has like an encyclopedic knowledge of

467
00:22:54,680 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 4: film is very impressive. So but yeah, it's.

468
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: So funny to me that how different Writer and I

469
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: are because one of the ways my husband always knows

470
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: when someone's actually met me or not is if they

471
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 3: say anything about being at a chain restaurant. I met

472
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: Danielle once in Orange County at an Applebee's and jen Z's.

473
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: That's definitely happened. And with Writer, anytime somebody mentions running charades,

474
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, that definitely happened. Like that definitely happened

475
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: you guys. You guys definitely hung out.

476
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: But so, how did your family manage three different shows

477
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: at the same time? Was your parents are bouncing between sets?

478
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: Like no, my mom, my dad had a full time job.

479
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: He's still a computer programmer, even though he should have retired.

480
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm never going to retire. Still just got

481
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 4: rehired at a new company doing computer programming. Wow, I know,

482
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: and today's it's his birthday. Happy birthday, dad, little Scorpio father.

483
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: How did my mom manage it? I don't know. She's insane,

484
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: My mother is, you know, she just finished a novel.

485
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 4: She's just like the most vicious person. Like, yeah, she's

486
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: she's bedridden and blind and she did a novel. She

487
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 4: was like, she did it on an app called plod

488
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: where you just you dictate and then it records everything

489
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 4: down and my sister helps her edit it, and she

490
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: just she's she's the most ambitious person I've ever met.

491
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: So it truly wasn't us. My mom did it all

492
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 4: and would hire her sisters. She's the eldest of seven,

493
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 4: so she's like a natural boss sisters to take care

494
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 4: of us. So we had Aunt Susie taking me to

495
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: the nanny and then like she would take Yvonne into

496
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: you know whatever show and then hire or have somebody else.

497
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: Cousin April would take us to take Vanessa to you know,

498
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 4: like we were all it was like that. She she

499
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: had employees and she was running like a little mini empire,

500
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 4: but not really because we weren't making that much money.

501
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: But was she always blind or has she gone blind?

502
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 4: No, No, she's she's gotten blind over years. Not to like

503
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: bring down the vibe, but yeah, yeah, you know had

504
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: like long long term stuff health and all that stuff. Yeah, wow,

505
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: she's again she's doing better than.

506
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: All of us.

507
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the strongest, happiest brain.

508
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: I wrote a novel and I'm like, oh god, I

509
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 3: just all I want to do today is take a nap.

510
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: So I'm so so impressed.

511
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: Was moving to la always.

512
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: Something your family event like talked about doing eventually or wasn't.

513
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: I have to give all the credit to my mom

514
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 4: because my dad had a job on the East coast

515
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania. We had our whole family there, and I

516
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: think it's like she took me to pilot season was

517
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: really happening on the West coast and I was working,

518
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: so it was like it seemed to make sense and

519
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: it was just her kaka mami idea to be like,

520
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to take our whole family. She took me out,

521
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: I think, just initially.

522
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: And then I looked a.

523
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 4: Show called Our Song with George Hamilton and Lauren tom

524
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: who played on Friends. We Know Lauren, Yeah, you know Laurence.

525
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 4: She's just lovely, lovely, the sweetest. I've run into her

526
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 4: recently and she just always is just like the loveliest

527
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: human being. So I worked with her and that show

528
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: didn't get picked up, and then I think the very

529
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: next pilot season, I got The Nanny, and so that

530
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 4: was that and it kind of was like, we have

531
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: to stay out here.

532
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: Now before we jump into The Nanny. I want to

533
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: ask you about hand that rocks the Cradle.

534
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: Ask me about everything.

535
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm okay, what was that audition?

536
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: Like, considering it is such a creepy movie and it's

537
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: for a great director in Curtis Hansen.

538
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't remember the exact audition except for

539
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 4: that I wanted so badly to book it because there

540
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: was like many, you know, callbacks they like put kids

541
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: through the wringer back of the day, like callbacks for

542
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 4: like dude, like why, But I remember I messed up,

543
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: Like my mom was like it would be cute if

544
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 4: you said, if I book this, will I get an

545
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 4: Academy Award? And I think it's something along the lines

546
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: of like if I booked this, am I going to

547
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: get an Oscar Mayer Award?

548
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: You know?

549
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: Like, I got the I almost got the term right,

550
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 4: but then.

551
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: Not, which probably worked in your favor.

552
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: They were like, yeah, exactly, So.

553
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny.

554
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 4: And everybody was really nice on that set. Apparently I

555
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 4: got to meet Leonard Cohen, who I'm like, whoa this

556
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: fan of? Because he was dating Rebecca de Morney at

557
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: the time. I don't remember, but I was watching the

558
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: documentary I'm Your Man, which is a beautiful documentary if

559
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 4: you haven't seen it, and I'm like, at my mom's house,

560
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: she's like, you know you met him, right, I'm like.

561
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: What I met?

562
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: I met Leonard the Leonard Cohen, and yeah, anyway, so

563
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: I was like, I was flurred by that, but just.

564
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 2: Goes to show how clueless we were when we were

565
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: kids situations just being like, well, this is just the

566
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: way the world works. We just go for movie a movie,

567
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: and job a job and meet all these amazing people.

568
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, so this was your first movie. It was

569
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: also Julianne Moore's first movie. I mean, that's pretty awesome company.

570
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: What do you remember about working with her?

571
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 4: She was lovely and then her husband directed an episode

572
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: of Californication later. Oh and so I got to see her.

573
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 4: She came to set, and I was so nervous that

574
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 4: she would weirdly judge me for the nudity, because I

575
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 4: was like, oh, the her concept of me is when

576
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: I was a baby, and then you know, I have

577
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: done the nudity in this in this show, and I

578
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: for some reason felt like, oh, she's gonna look down

579
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: at it. And I'd forgotten about boogie Nights, I know.

580
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: And she was so nice and she couldn't have been

581
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: more warm to me, and she's like, you know, I

582
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 4: thought of you, and I was. She's like, I watched

583
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: this movie and it reminded me of you, and I

584
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: was thinking of how you're doing, and I was like,

585
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: you remember me. She was the sweetest. Like that just

586
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: makes I'm sure you guys feel the same way, having

587
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: been in the industry a long time. Is when someone

588
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 4: is talented and kind and they and they want any

589
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: in any area of life, You're just like, ugh, it

590
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: gives me hope. Yes, those lovely, kind human beings who

591
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: also have been doing it forever and they get their

592
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: moment like a Melanie Lynskey. I don't know if you

593
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: guys know her, Oh yeah, he's just like every time

594
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: I see her in something, it fills my heart with

595
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: joy because she's so brilliant, but then also she's the

596
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: kindest human being and it just and Julianne Moore from

597
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: my slivers of you know, like snapshots of time with

598
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: her was the same way.

599
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like love.

600
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: Just coming at you and and and kind of people

601
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: bolstering each other up, you know.

602
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

603
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: We have quite a few connections between Boy Meets World

604
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: and Hand That Rocks the Cradle.

605
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: First, a PA on the movie.

606
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: Lynn McCracken would become our stage manager and then a

607
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: director on Boy Meets World.

608
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: And Matt McCoy was the original.

609
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: Dad on our show, but he was replaced mm hmmm,

610
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: got nixed after the No.

611
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: Mat McCoy is also a sweetheart.

612
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so I feel like just just with those connections,

613
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: we're we're already connected for life.

614
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, on top of meeting each other's siblings

615
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: minus Shiloh.

616
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Right exactly, we need to make that happen.

617
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: But I just I've also just like loved you guys forever,

618
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: Like I have to say, all so so grateful to

619
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 4: be asked to be on the on the podcast, and

620
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm like am I one of the

621
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 4: cool kids now, you guys, because you guys were always like,

622
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: you know, in in all the teen Things, and everybody

623
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: wanted to like TGI Friday like t G I f

624
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 4: of like Step by Step and Boy Meets World. That

625
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: was the musty TV like Friends and Feld for our generation,

626
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: for the younger ones. Like people did not miss it.

627
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: I didn't miss it. It was like it was like

628
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: the plus. I worked with Ben Savage then on a

629
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: very uh you know, a lifetime movie. Yeah, recently or

630
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: a couple of years back. It was like maybe ten

631
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: ish years ago called Lake Effects.

632
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, lake Effects. That's so funny. Wow, the connections just

633
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: keep rolling.

634
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: Well, so, wait, what years were was the Nanny on?

635
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: The Nanny was? Good question. I don't know. I know

636
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: my ages. I was six when we did the pilot,

637
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: seven when it was picked up to series. Like, you

638
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: know how long those ye were? So I was like

639
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: already the next I was already a year older by

640
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: the time I got picked up series, So six to

641
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: seven to thirteen.

642
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: I did you were born in eighty five?

643
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: I was born in eighty five, so I think it.

644
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Was ninety one, Tonty.

645
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: It's about the same time. We were on the air

646
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: at the exact same time.

647
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, ninety two, ninety three to ninety nine, ninety eight,

648
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 4: something like that. I don't know.

649
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were ninety three to two thousand, so yeah,

650
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: we were overlapping. How long afterhand that rocks the Cradle?

651
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: Did you get the Nanny?

652
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: A year?

653
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Okay?

654
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: Wow?

655
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: So pretty quick?

656
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I was working. I was just always working.

657
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: I got really lucky and I was good and I

658
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: showed up on time and had showered. I don't know,

659
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: you know, so yeah, it was like the next year,

660
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: I think.

661
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because you started so young, because I mean,

662
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: like Danielle and I didn't actually start acting until we

663
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: were ten. We were late comers. Did you ever have

664
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 2: the moment where we were like do I know how

665
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: to act? I?

666
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm still every day.

667
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: But did you ever.

668
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Did you ever like take an acting class or like

669
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: make decisions about or did you just be like, I

670
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: gotta I'm going to figure this out on the fly

671
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: and keep going.

672
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: You know what's funny is that, truly I had a

673
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: lot of like uh insecurity around that because I started

674
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: so young, and I was like I wasn't trained, you know,

675
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: I didn't go to drama school or anything like that.

676
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: And then later I did an acting class that kind

677
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: of reinforced what I already was doing the whole time,

678
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: because as a child, you're already accessing your imagination. You're

679
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: already personalizing things like, oh, my mommy's sick, like you're

680
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: seeing your mom in front of you. You don't, you

681
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: don't think like it's you know, that whole thing of

682
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: the process and the craft of acting is to learn

683
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 4: how to do that. I was always just doing it

684
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 4: so and I didn't have to access my inner child.

685
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: My inner child shows up before I do, you know

686
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. Sure, you guys feel that way too.

687
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: There's like such a like a strong part of that

688
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: ten year old part of yourself is more imprinted and

689
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: you're more in touch with it than the average chow right,

690
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: because it was the person showing up and having to

691
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: be a professional a little earlier that most people. So

692
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: it really it reinforced later, like, oh, the craft part

693
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 4: of it. I already do all those things. I already

694
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: find a song that means something, or a smell or whatever.

695
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: Like I had a process, it just didn't really have

696
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: words for it. I was just kind of unconsciously if

697
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: that makes sense.

698
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally makes perfect sense. I feel like I actually

699
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: went more the opposite direction, like my insecurity drove me

700
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: to like, oh, I have to figure out this craft.

701
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: I must be doing something wrong, only to like in

702
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: my twenties come back around and be like, no, I

703
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: think the instincts were already there, Like I need to

704
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: go back to that sort of like you said, like

705
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: the childhood make believe part is that's the essence of

706
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: acting really. But I had to go like full circle

707
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: to come back to it, you know, because I felt

708
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: this pressure to, like especially when I hit my early

709
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: twenties and everybody was coming out of theater programs, you know, suddenly,

710
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: like my competition was like all these people who had

711
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: discovered acting at eighteen or twenty, and they were really,

712
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: you know, well trained and could talk about acting in

713
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: a way that I never could.

714
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: They had lingo, they had, but by the way, it

715
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: didn't you you know, it doesn't really matter, you know, Okay, cool,

716
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 4: they've got the fancy lingo and they've got like wind

717
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 4: in their sales from being like I'm a whatever graduate.

718
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: We didn't have because we had the industry kind of

719
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: giving us loops of like this is how you're seen,

720
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: and you have a sense of how people see you.

721
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 4: Perception and reality are something that you have to confront

722
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 4: earlier on, which feeds insecurity. It's not like ego actually,

723
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 4: which is why I think like child actors and people

724
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: who've survived in the industry a long time are such

725
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 4: a special breed of human because we didn't kind of

726
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: come to LA with like a grandiose sense of self. Actually,

727
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: the industry sort of found us when we were just

728
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 4: mid stride, mid play, kind of doing our thing. And

729
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: I think that that's I think that's a kind of

730
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: a beautiful distinction because you aren't afforded the like I'm

731
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: the grandiosity of some people who're here, Do you know

732
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 4: what I'm saying that?

733
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, On the flip side, though, you also, like

734
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this the other when we were kids,

735
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: I remember being palpably aware that they were very untalented

736
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: kids who would get jobs, do you know what I mean? Like,

737
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: which doesn't happen as much when you're an adult. Like

738
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: when you're an adult, it's like there's the pool of actors.

739
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: It's like you don't just get apart because you look

740
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: cute and hit your mark, whereas when your kids, like

741
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: I remember a lot of times being in situations being like,

742
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: well this person is not an actor.

743
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 4: Yes, they're just they're cute.

744
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 2: They could they say the line's right and they got

745
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: cat or they're someone's kid, whatever, which also feeds the

746
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: sense of like do I belong here? Is there a

747
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: reason I'm here? Like? Do I have a right to

748
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: be here? I don't know?

749
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. The reality of the industry is is a

750
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: is a rough one, and so the comparison and being

751
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: super hyper aware and critical of both ourselves and everyone

752
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: around us. We internalize the things that we sort of

753
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: hear whispers of or have a sense of because kids

754
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 4: are so intuitive. Yeah, you don't even have to have

755
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: someone tell you something. You could feel things you know

756
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: right like on that you're like, oh, they're disappointed in

757
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: the way that that was delivered. Can you internalize those things?

758
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 4: And it becomes the inner critic. That's not a critical parent,

759
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 4: it's not a it's the world. And you internalize ideas

760
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 4: about the way the world sees you towards yourself, which

761
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: it is not something that most people ever confront in

762
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: their lives like me I have. I had, you know,

763
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: absorbed more rejection by the time I was eleven years

764
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: old that most people will absorb and their whole lives,

765
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: you know, and having to confront that and like process

766
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: it and do it in a healthy way without like

767
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: you know, a substance or whatever like that is. I'm

768
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: really proud of the person that I've become because I've

769
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: faced down so much, how many things that most people

770
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: never look at.

771
00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I want to talk to you about when you

772
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: remember meeting Fran Did you guys do a chemistry test?

773
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah. I was like, who's this lady with

774
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: the voice? I didn't know it was her show was

775
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: like I think I didn't know till like later, like

776
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: one of the again, like one of the seventeen million

777
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 4: auditions that we hoops we had to jump through as

778
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: good little trained monkeys, And I was like this lady

779
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: with the voice, And then at some point I realized

780
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 4: she was important in the.

781
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Room, right, you were like star.

782
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 4: He liked me, and I remember, I do remember there

783
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 4: was a choice that my mom specifically told me not

784
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 4: to do, but I had for some reason gotten locked

785
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: into it. You know, when you're an actor and you

786
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 4: get clocked into a line reading or at whatever, and

787
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 4: I was like, I had set a line and went

788
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: like this, which is such a like a little kid thing.

789
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: I went, you know, like something like that. I did

790
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 4: it in the room and I was like, no, why

791
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: do I Yeah, I screwed it up, but I still

792
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 4: somehow got the job. I think I was again by

793
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: that point like kind of more polished and stuff. Apparently

794
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: I auditioned for Diane Keaton when I was young, for

795
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: he called The Good Mother. She didn't direct it, but

796
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: she was in the chemistry you read, and I did

797
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: remember this that like I said hello Diane, and and

798
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: then somebody said, oh, this is Diane, and this is

799
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: everyone else, and I said hello Diane, hello everyone else.

800
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: And I guess it was so so sassy that he

801
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 4: was like, she's too slick and I couldn't so being

802
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: too slick for dian Keaton, which I'm honored just to

803
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: have been called that. Yeah, but but it worked out

804
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: in the Nanny because you kind of had to be

805
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: sort of you know, yeah. I remember just her voice

806
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: and then I was like, those voice wasn't going to

807
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: go over again.

808
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: And that was the whole thing, right, that's so funny,

809
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 3: and by all accounts, it seems like she really had

810
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: to stand up for herself a lot on this show,

811
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: and in the nineties that was not an easy thing

812
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: for women in the industry. Do you recall her ever

813
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: having to be kind of a tough ass and put

814
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: her foot down so that she could accomplish her vision.

815
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: I think that's just naturally who she is. Yeah, I

816
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: think that's just naturally who she is. I think there's

817
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: even there's even like old I'm gonna get called someone's

818
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: gonna throw a spirit at me for saying this, But

819
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: there's old interviews of Pran where she's like, yeah, I'm

820
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: a bu and she kind of just owned that. Maybe

821
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: before that was something that women could own, right, and

822
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: she could stand in the fact that she made that

823
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 4: happen for herself. Do you guys know how the Nanny

824
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: got Greenland and got made No, she was on a flight,

825
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: on a flight, like a first class flight, and she

826
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: happened to be sitting next to Jeff Sagansky, like the

827
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 4: president of CBS, and she started pitching him her show,

828
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: and like by the time the plane landed, she basically

829
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: had a shunbelievable, Like stuff like that doesn't happen anymore.

830
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 4: But she just was one of those people who, like

831
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: my mother, believed in herself and in fight of everything

832
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: else and everyone else, someone could be that part of

833
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: ourselves where we internalized the critic. She didn't have that, Yeah,

834
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: had an internal part of herself that was like I'm

835
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: doing this and yeah, you know, I'm the star and

836
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: I feel, you know, like comfortable with all that and

837
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: that it's yeah. So I definitely saw many moments like that.

838
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: Do you think that influenced you at all? Like, did that?

839
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: Was that? Okay?

840
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: I love that, It definitely did.

841
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: But I also was like, you know, there's there everyone

842
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: is a teacher, right, so like there are certain things

843
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: that you take from every single person, and you're like,

844
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: some things you're like and some things you're like. You know,

845
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: so there are both of those things were true on

846
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: that set. You know, I think it was beautiful to

847
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 4: have a woman be so powerful and owning herself so much.

848
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: But also, you know, I think I was young and

849
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: didn't know to celebrate all those things at the time

850
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: because at that time women still were judged really harshly,

851
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: and I probably was a part of that, you know,

852
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: societal soup. If that mean yeah, I didn't learn until

853
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: later that like about feminism or about although my mom

854
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: was always very like strong, powerful woman, but there were

855
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: things about those those aspects of a personality that I

856
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 4: really shied away from that I that I didn't feel

857
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 4: safe in, if that makes sense.

858
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 3: I think as a child it as an actor, it's

859
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: impossible to have embraced seeing that because we are told

860
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 3: and it's apparent when you look around you that being

861
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: a team player and being easy to work with and

862
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 3: being directionable, those are the things that get you work.

863
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: Those are the things that make you an asset. And

864
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: we're constantly chasing the validation of I. They like me

865
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: because I'm easy to work with. They like me because

866
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: you're a trooper.

867
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: I hate that term. Oh my god. I the word

868
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 4: trooper is so triggering because I've done so many horror

869
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: films where you're just like kind of basically abused. We're

870
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: horrible to work on. I don't know any actor who

871
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: actually enjoys it under.

872
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: I went through, I went through my face but no, no,

873
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: now now I want to direct them.

874
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: I get it, I get it, but like, but like

875
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 4: as a girl in a horror film have to be.

876
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: Naked and you.

877
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 4: And it's freezing and it's you and you're covered in

878
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: sticky you know, cold blood and and you're like, you

879
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: know so and then they're making like, you know, five

880
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 4: dollars barely covering your gas to get to debt. To

881
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: be honest, maybe.

882
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: You have a honeywagon if you're on location, and.

883
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I've done so many of those, and

884
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 4: so I whenever people would be like you're such a trooper,

885
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 4: it's usually after you've hurt yourself and you're noting the

886
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: company and you're like, right right, yeah, you can fire

887
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: a file for workers comp and like, why didn't I

888
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: do that?

889
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, So as the show starts to catch fire, it

890
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: becomes a global sensation. How did you keep a level head?

891
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: And what was your school situation? Were you in a

892
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: traditional school or were you home schools? What were what

893
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: were you doing?

894
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 4: What? I want to know what you guys were doing too?

895
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: I was, I was in regular school.

896
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: So was that public school?

897
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a mistake. Our parents so bad? Okay, sorry,

898
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: but like no, our parents messed up. Like I was

899
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 4: in public school with Burbank.

900
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: There weren't a whole lot of options back then. Like

901
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: now you meet child actors and they're all like online

902
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: school or they do like correspondence courses, like I went

903
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: to a tiny like alternati hippie school in northern California

904
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: and they were just they were just like do whatever

905
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: you want, which is fine, but like otherwise, there wasn't

906
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: that many options unless.

907
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: You know, like, dude, I was bullied. I don't know

908
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: about you, Danielle, were you bullied into? Like for me,

909
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: it was brutal, like I was not like like I

910
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: don't know I was.

911
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: I was.

912
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, people would come after me and like chase me

913
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: down after class, like it was. It was so bad

914
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: that they took me out of school.

915
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Actually, oh my gosh, Bourbank. I feel like, were there

916
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 3: not other child actors at your school?

917
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 4: I didn't, you know, No, not not at not at

918
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 4: Miller Elementary, and not at John Muir. John Muir was

919
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 4: really bad, but no, there were no other child actors.

920
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: I should have been in and and then eventually I

921
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: was at homeschooled. Yeah, but it was it was not

922
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 4: it was a bad move. It was a bad okay

923
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: because I was there for right, You're like working for

924
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: three weeks and you have hiatus. Yeah, so that one

925
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 4: week a month, I'm back in school.

926
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I did.

927
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 4: Target. Well did you go did you have other child

928
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: actors that were like at the were you in public

929
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: school like.

930
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: I was in public school?

931
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I and and there were other child actors,

932
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: not necessarily in junior high, not necessarily other kids that

933
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: were gone as often as I was, And so there

934
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: was like, I don't I wouldn't even call it bullying.

935
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: There were some people that would, like, you know, throw

936
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 3: an insult at me occasionally, like.

937
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh, the princess is back, welcome, but you know you,

938
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: where have you been?

939
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: Like there was some of that, but I was never

940
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: like aggressively, I was not. I would never even call

941
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: it bullying. And then in high school, after I had

942
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: already been because we started Boy Meets World when I

943
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: was in sixth grade, So I went through sixth, seventh,

944
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: and eighth, and then all basically all those same kids

945
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: just moved to high school with me. And by then

946
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: it was just like yeah, old news, Danielle's you know,

947
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 3: Danielle's famous, and and and I had no issues.

948
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was never experiencing like the famous part, like

949
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: nobody wanted to be my friend because of Not The Nanny.

950
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 4: I think because on your show it was a little

951
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: bit more about the kids, like right right, and your

952
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: storylines were important, and so yours is important. On The Nanny,

953
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: we were we were sort of props, like both like

954
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: you know, just we weren't really we had one or

955
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 4: two storylines the first season and then that was like

956
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: not really, we weren't really like a part. We were

957
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: part of the show just because the show was called

958
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: The Nanny, but we weren't really like and it didn't

959
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: feel like we were a really important part of the show.

960
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: So how many of you were how many of you

961
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: were there? There was Nicole, Tom, you.

962
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 4: And Ben Salisbury. It was three of us three nights.

963
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: And were you guys all in set school together?

964
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: We were all in set school together.

965
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: One studio teacher or did you have two?

966
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: We had one one studio teacher, and then eventually they

967
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 4: all graduated and I got to have two studio teachers.

968
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: I had had Leslie Hall. I don't know if she's

969
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: still around or not, but she was amazing, and then

970
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: I had more Murray Mednick. I don't know, I don't

971
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: know if the last guy's name what his last name

972
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: was not Medniic, but but he did. He did. My

973
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 4: I had like a private, you know, school education in

974
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: a way because he taught me Latin like trigonometry and

975
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: something else like at the same and algebra the same.

976
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: Like he would come in special days just for my

977
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: like yeah, you know, elective courses. So I was grateful

978
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: for that extra attention around my schooling to a certain degree.

979
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, we were all in set school. Banking

980
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: hours you guys remember that?

981
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, remember the banking hours. You're going

982
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: to bank today? All right, We've got enough banked hours.

983
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: You can work all day.

984
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 4: I love those days when I got to just be

985
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: on I don't know about you guys. Were you just

986
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: same that, You're like, I'm one of the big kids.

987
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: I get to do what I actually enjoy doing, and

988
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: and I just felt like it was the best. Yeah.

989
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

990
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: We always talk about loving the multi caam aspect of

991
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: Boy meets World. Being in front of a live studio audience.

992
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 3: Did you like that putting on a weekly play aspect

993
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: of it all?

994
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was so exciting, and honestly, I think

995
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 4: everybody felt like once we got rid of the live

996
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 4: audience that the show started to decline.

997
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Do you know do you know why you guys got

998
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: rid of the audience?

999
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 4: I don't know. It wasn't obviously about my pay grade,

1000
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: but I have no idea. But I know that once

1001
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: we started having the laughers come in, did you guys

1002
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: grab laughers?

1003
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 5: Not on?

1004
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 2: Boy?

1005
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: No, did you show shows I direct? Now we use laughers?

1006
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: Oh cool? So so you guys both direct. Now I've

1007
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: directed a little bit, but it's been very hard to

1008
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 4: like break in that. So it's the best feeling, right,

1009
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: every all the all the all the experience that you

1010
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: guys have, you finally get to put it into something

1011
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: and be sensitive to the actors communicate and then when

1012
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: the children on set, you have this extra understanding and

1013
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 4: sensitivity around that like it's it's it's a again, there's

1014
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: amount the amount of experience and value that you bring

1015
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: from just that much skin in the game, right that

1016
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: ours doing something like Jody Foster is what.

1017
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: And actors feel it. They they they when you walk

1018
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: on set and you're an actor who's turned director, they're

1019
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: so much more comfortable. There's immediately like, oh you get

1020
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: what's going on here, and it puts everybody at ease.

1021
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: It's it's it's like a superpower. It's so wonderful.

1022
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, like Jody Foster is one of the same,

1023
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: like where you're just like But it's funny though to me,

1024
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: the the perceptions in the industry where it's like Jody

1025
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: Foster is is this amount of value And then like

1026
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: I've always felt like lesser because of being a child actor.

1027
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can felt that way. So

1028
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: it's like you almost have like more of a chip

1029
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 4: on your shoulder to prove, like I have intelligence and

1030
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 4: and like and all these other things to offer. Yeah,

1031
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's so cool that you guys

1032
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: both directed. I wasn't. I didn't know that you directed

1033
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 4: to Danielle. That's so cool.

1034
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 3: On a on a weird uh, it's going to feel

1035
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: like a tangent, but it is a related note.

1036
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: Do you have any trouble picking out.

1037
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: Your clothes or getting getting dressed on a regular basis?

1038
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I have.

1039
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: I have executive dysfunction, like on a make your level.

1040
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have that, because you

1041
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 4: know so much, so many decisions were decided for you,

1042
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: so that that that confidence in yourself definitely is something

1043
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 4: that like when I'm not resourcing and having like Meditated

1044
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: and Daniella taking care of myself, I definitely get overwhelmed.

1045
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 4: And when I'm hungry. When I'm hungry, it's like my

1046
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: partner is like, you need to eat because I can't,

1047
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 4: Like I can't function if I get on angry, it's

1048
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: just like I leave my body or something.

1049
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, craft service always there, I don't know, and.

1050
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: Still my favorite part of set. It's like this is

1051
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 4: ninety percent of while I still do this all the time,

1052
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: and I still always like will steal like a banana

1053
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: or an apple, like like I've got to squirrel the.

1054
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 7: Way to bring this home, got to bring this home,

1055
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 7: got to bring food home wearing it for later.

1056
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: You guys have that, yeah, yeah we yeah. And before we.

1057
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 2: Started this podcast, I realized that like I practically have

1058
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: a panic attack every time I'm getting changed, Like I

1059
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: like I just hate putting on clothes. And I like

1060
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: went into the other room to ask my wife. I

1061
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: was like, just getting dress stressed you out? And She's like,

1062
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? And I realized it was

1063
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: like all right, because we always had like little quick

1064
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: change rooms between scenes that we'd had to go and

1065
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: like change while the audience is waiting the whole crew,

1066
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: and I just totally internalized that I still like can't

1067
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: stand changing clothes.

1068
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: I also have no idea what does or does not

1069
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: look good on me. I have no idea what my

1070
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: taste or style is. I just if I.

1071
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: Don't go into the room and have.

1072
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: A fully put together outfit of like here's your belt,

1073
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 3: here's your shoes, and I'll hang it all back up.

1074
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 3: I'm neat and tidy and I'll do a t I'm

1075
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: a trooper, I'm a team player. But I just don't

1076
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 3: know it's been picked for me. Where's my polaroids?

1077
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: You know?

1078
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: I'm the same. I literally put this sweater on and

1079
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: then I looked at the at the frame beforehand, you

1080
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: know you check the thing on the zooke, and I

1081
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: was like, that looks crazy. I was like, I better

1082
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: take that off myself. It's not too cold. But yeah,

1083
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: I definitely have that, and clothes have always stressed me out.

1084
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't like shopping, I don't like putting on outfits.

1085
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 4: The whole thing I rejected. So yeah, I'm not a

1086
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 4: girlways into clothes never happened.

1087
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

1088
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: While researching The Nanny, I did uncover one of the

1089
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: weirdest facts about the show. Roger Clinton, the brother of

1090
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: President Bill Clinton, appeared in three episodes.

1091
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: Was wow. I didn't even know that, but yeah, he

1092
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: was really nice. He was really nice. Everyone was. You know,

1093
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: my mom was in love with Bill Clinton. Everybody was

1094
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 4: so like, maybe Bill will come.

1095
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Do you think Bill will come?

1096
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: This is like no, he was yeah, he was president,

1097
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 4: he was president. You know. Yeah, he was just really nice.

1098
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: Roger Clinton was a sweetheart from what I remember, very

1099
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 4: very nice to me. You know. Anybody who had kids

1100
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 4: and came on set was just like love. Yeah, and

1101
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: even people who didn't have kids, but they was just

1102
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: exciting to be like breathe the same air as them.

1103
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 4: Like Elizabeth Taylor was on The Nanny whoa Yeah, And

1104
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: there was a memo that went around that was like

1105
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 4: we weren't allowed to look in her eyes.

1106
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I knew it was going to

1107
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: be that.

1108
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like crazy rules that were like from a

1109
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 4: bygone era of golden age of Hollywood. Yeah. And Donald O'Connor,

1110
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: who's the guy who does the like backwards flip and

1111
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: singing the rain and he worked with Marilyn Monroe in

1112
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: some movie. But he would tell me stories about Marilyn Monroe.

1113
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: When I was little, Jason Alexander was on the Nanny

1114
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: and did like the time step with me. I was like,

1115
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: I know how to do a time step because of

1116
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 4: my little bit of dance backgrounds. It was like, you know,

1117
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: I was showing he's like very good and I was

1118
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: like torch kids, Dancel likes my time, you know. And

1119
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: he was so sweet. So it's like I always remember

1120
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 4: the people who were so generous and like lovely with me. Yeah.

1121
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,479
Speaker 3: Well, we grew up in a really like Boy Meets

1122
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 3: World was a very family environment. But that's partially and

1123
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: maybe mostly because we were a kid more of a

1124
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: kid slash family show.

1125
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: What was set like for you guys?

1126
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 3: Was it did it feel more like an adult adult

1127
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: environment that you were thrust into or did it did

1128
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: it all?

1129
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: See?

1130
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 4: I did feel more like it wasn't. I'm always like

1131
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 4: I'm always you know, I don't have much of a filter,

1132
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: so it's really difficult all the time. I'm like, okay,

1133
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 4: just it was. It was an adult environment for sure.

1134
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 4: It wasn't like you know, uh, it wasn't oriented around

1135
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 4: the children.

1136
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, on it exactly exactly.

1137
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 4: And then there were a lot of grown up, you

1138
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 4: know jokes, and it's like, we got to throw the

1139
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: kid out of the room so we can make the

1140
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 4: joke about sex out of that. I think, you know,

1141
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: there's probably like will be like a mash up somewhere

1142
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: of like all the times they threw Gracie out of

1143
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 4: the room so that she could say something sassy or yeah.

1144
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: So it was like it was more like that. And

1145
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 4: but again, like I wouldn't change any of it for

1146
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: the world. I'm not like, I'm not shading the show.

1147
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 4: It's it's that I learned so much and I and

1148
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: I and I grew so much from watching everyone and everything,

1149
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I had awareness of

1150
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: like a dirty joke earlier.

1151
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, that makes sense.

1152
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fashion of the nanny has had a bit

1153
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: of a TikTok resurgence, a lot of pants suits, and

1154
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: I know that even Sabrina Carpenter has found inspiration in

1155
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 3: the outfits. Are you surprised by the nanny renaissance?

1156
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 4: No, I'm not, because again, it was ahead of its time,

1157
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: being like a female forward show and a show that

1158
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: was yeah, like outfit changes, that's like the whole thing now,

1159
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: you know, Sabrina Carpenter does it. Taylor Swift, It's like

1160
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 4: changed those outfits.

1161
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: Girl.

1162
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of impressive how much fashion was on the show,

1163
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 4: and Brenda Cooper, who was the costume designer, deserves full

1164
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: credit for that because she was pulling like Bob Mackie

1165
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 4: and all these designers way before Sex and the City even.

1166
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's like it was just ahead of its time,

1167
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 4: and then you know, everything that's old becomes new again

1168
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 4: as you guys never comes back around. So it doesn't

1169
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 4: surprise me that people are really like digging into the

1170
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 4: Nanny and France. Fashion was like it was really the

1171
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: star of the show, aside from like, you know, her

1172
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 4: voice and her chemistry with Charles Shawn. So like, you know,

1173
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: I mean Charlie, you know when I say things weren't

1174
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 4: oriented around the children, Charlie, and like, there were a

1175
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 4: lot of people who were great on the show. So

1176
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to show and all that stuff. I

1177
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 4: just want to clarify that. But yeah, I'm surprised about

1178
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: the Renaissance. It's just it's just it makes perfect sense

1179
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: to me.

1180
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: You have gone on to appear in so much stuff.

1181
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: When you're filming Californiaication or Hacks or High Potential, does

1182
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: the nanny ever come up?

1183
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Do people talk to you about it?

1184
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: You know, Californication? Not really?

1185
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: Not really.

1186
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I know people don't really ask. You know,

1187
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: on sets, people are all too busy, you know, doing

1188
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 4: their own thing and work, so people aren't really like,

1189
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: what was it really like working with that person. Some

1190
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 4: people will ask about David Lynch because it's such a

1191
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: cult favorite, so people will ask about David Lynch.

1192
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: Well that's my next question. So if you want to

1193
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: go right into it, go for it.

1194
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: Well you ask a question, Okay.

1195
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: So you appeared in the twenty seventeen revisit of Twin Peaks,

1196
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: and he passed away at the beginning of this year,

1197
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: so I wanted to hear about what your experience was

1198
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 3: like with him.

1199
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: I have I have such fond memories of working with

1200
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 4: David Lynch. I got to work with him for two

1201
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: whole days, which was a luxurious amount of time to

1202
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: shoot like basically two scenes, right, and I there was

1203
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: such a sense of like like a cold following around him,

1204
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 4: like he's the cult leader. And everyone's like, yes, sir,

1205
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: you know that whole thing. But I'm I've never played

1206
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: that game because I've just been doing this so long.

1207
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not really starstruck by most people. Musicians

1208
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: for sure, but like actors or like directors, I'm like,

1209
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: I know the game, kid, And even with David Lynch,

1210
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: I just didn't have Although I was a fan, I

1211
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: wasn't like I wanted to ask questions and I was

1212
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: free to ask questions. So there is a scene where

1213
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: they're they're, you know, spraying me with a ton of

1214
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: it's like two hundred and fifty gallons of blood, right,

1215
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: and I'm oh my gosh, naked, and everyone's we got

1216
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: one shot with the blood. We got one shot with

1217
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: the blood. And everyone's just like, you know, stressed and

1218
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 4: freaking out. Not David, of course, he's like he's like,

1219
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 4: you know, one of those people they talk about, like

1220
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: Steve Jobs, where reality bends and warps around them. Like

1221
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 4: he's like on set smoking which was like not allowed,

1222
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 4: but of course he was smoking, but just like in

1223
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 4: this aura bubble and everyone's like okay, we got one

1224
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: shot with the blood and they're about to call action,

1225
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: and I just like raised my little hand, my little

1226
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 4: naked hand, and I was like excuse me, and everyone's

1227
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: like dead, dead silent, And I was like, do you

1228
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 4: think maybe instead of just doing the blood, maybe we'd

1229
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 4: just do a plate and you can add the blood

1230
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 4: later if you wanted, and then and then you could

1231
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 4: do the blood after that way you have an option.

1232
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: And it was dead silent. I mean, everyone just like

1233
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 4: you really just shell Dave Lynch was to do and

1234
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 4: and he's like, you know what, Tracy got a pretty

1235
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 4: good idea, let's do that. So literally we did two takes.

1236
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: We did one that was dry where they could add

1237
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: the blood later, and one with the blood. And afterwards,

1238
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 4: the first Ada came up to me and was like,

1239
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 4: you're a very brave girl, and I was like, oh am,

1240
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: I I didn't realize, like I just did something that

1241
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 4: made perfect sense to me from an experiential standpoint. And

1242
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 4: then and then also he took it in because great

1243
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: directors like you guys, know, great people like are open

1244
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: to the best idea in the room, no matter where.

1245
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Totally best idea wins.

1246
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 4: Yes, it wins. He goes aside, let's have room for

1247
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: the best idea. So that's my experience of David, which.

1248
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 7: Was, what a cool story, what a great experience, What

1249
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 7: a proud moment for you, Like yeah, yeah, where you're like, yes,

1250
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 7: I have been paying attention and to have had the

1251
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 7: confidence to say, listen, I'm not I'm the one in

1252
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 7: this body who's about to have this blood sprayed, and

1253
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 7: to think if it goes wrong and then I'm going

1254
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 7: to be in.

1255
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 3: This high stress. They're not never gonna be happy if

1256
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: something goes wrong. They're not going to say we only

1257
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: get one take, We're gonna have to do it again

1258
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 3: on another day. And like if I just raise my

1259
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 3: hand and make a suggestion, I guess it could go

1260
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: one of two ways. But the like, that's just incredible.

1261
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. I like want to I

1262
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 3: just am so that's so incredible. I'm so I'm so

1263
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: thrilled we know that story.

1264
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was again a testament to him as

1265
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 4: a as an open, you know, collaborative artist.

1266
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also cannot let you leave without talking to

1267
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: you about the nineteen ninety three cinematic experience that is

1268
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: mister Nanny. You appeared in the movie alongside star Hulk Hogan.

1269
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: It is about a former pro wrestler who is hired

1270
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: to be a bodyguard slash nanny for braddy kids, whose

1271
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: dad is also being stalked by his business rival. I

1272
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 3: need to know everything about this experience.

1273
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 4: I was, okay, so there's so many things. He was

1274
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: there with his kids. Okay, name is Terry, and I

1275
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 4: just remember him like there was some scandal about him

1276
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 4: right before we started, Like it was that he had

1277
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 4: smoked marijuana, right which is now no going to care,

1278
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: but back in the das the scandal of whole. So

1279
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 4: I'm no, I know that there's he's he's had some

1280
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 4: other stuff come out which I haven't heard but people

1281
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: of you know. And then I was like, I didn't know.

1282
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what the deal is. But my little

1283
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 4: snapshot of an experience with him was that he was

1284
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: really the sweetest to me, and he had a think

1285
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 4: a wish kid on set more than once, and he

1286
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 4: was just you know, you know, like just he would

1287
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 4: do his bit for whoever. It was very sweet, and

1288
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 4: we tortured him. I mean we literally like had to

1289
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 4: do all these crazy stunts with him and he gets electrocuted,

1290
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: and you know, but he was so sweet. The director

1291
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: was so sweet. I worked with Sherman Helmsley from uh

1292
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: that old I can't remember the Jeffersons, the Jeffersons, Sherman

1293
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: Helmsley and Mother Love, and they were both just so

1294
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 4: warm and sweet. I have so many pictures of Mother

1295
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: Love just like holding me when I'm like, oh kiddo,

1296
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 4: And and everybody was just great, like I just it

1297
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 4: was one of those things where I felt I kind

1298
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 4: of felt like respected and like a part of it right,

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Speaker 4: you know, like a part of the whole process. And

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Speaker 4: and yeah, Huole Cogan was just super super nice to

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Speaker 4: me as a kid, which was all my memory of him.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's good to hear.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My last question for you is if you could go

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Speaker 3: back in time and talk to let's say seven year

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Speaker 3: old Madeline, what advice would you give her? Now?

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Speaker 1: What would you say to her?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I do this all the time in therapy.

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Speaker 4: Is this the therapy?

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Speaker 1: This is the therapy part?

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Speaker 4: I would tell her like I would tell like any

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Speaker 4: young girl to trust themselves more than like that little

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Speaker 4: voice inside is right no matter what anyone else tells you.

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Speaker 4: And the more you trust that and you move from

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Speaker 4: that place of like honoring yourself, you will be happier.

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Speaker 4: People will recognize you more because there'll be more of

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Speaker 4: you there, and you'll be proud of yourself like I

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Speaker 4: was that day on set with David. Normally you could

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Speaker 4: just let that moment go by. But the courage to

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Speaker 4: stand up and allow yourself to be seen and to

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Speaker 4: speak from with you know, from an authentic place that

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Speaker 4: you just yeah, you just you get a point, you

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Speaker 4: know you kind of you, you level up, you beat

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Speaker 4: the big boss inside that that critical, internalized voice of

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Speaker 4: the world that says you can't do it, and then

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Speaker 4: you feel like, you know what I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 4: I feel fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Be true to yourself. Don't be a trooper exactly.

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Speaker 4: Put that on the shirt you feel something, Say something.

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Speaker 3: Madeline, Where what are you working on now? Where can

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Speaker 3: people find you? Tell us everything?

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Speaker 4: Okay? Well, I am releasing a web series that me

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Speaker 4: and my sisters wrote together. I'm just little snippets of

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Speaker 4: it called What's Her Face? That's just for fun, it's

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Speaker 4: not It's very lighthearted. It's about three child actors growing

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Speaker 4: up with the arrested development and unable to sort of

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Speaker 4: put They're grown up, undis gone. And then I did

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Speaker 4: two films recently, one called Reunion with Ryan Hansen and

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Speaker 4: Jake Choy and and and it's it's It's gonna be

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Speaker 4: so funny. It's about a twenty year high school reunion.

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Speaker 4: And uh, I'm trying to remember everything else. And then

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Speaker 4: I just did a movie called The Bench that will

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Speaker 4: be coming out with rel Howery Little rel Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: from get Out and so yeah, well, you know, just

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Speaker 4: plugging away. I'm still managing to get work. And I

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Speaker 4: feel so grateful and I'm so grateful to be here

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Speaker 4: with you guys.

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Speaker 1: So thank you.

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Speaker 4: I feel like one of the cool kids.

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Speaker 3: Now you are officially a part of the cool Kid

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Speaker 3: Pod meets World crew.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for spending your time with us.

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Speaker 3: It was wonderful talking to you, getting to know you

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and just thank you for thank you

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Speaker 3: for being here with us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having me. It was just a joy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to see you.

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Speaker 4: Bye, Hi, take care.

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Speaker 2: Oh she got off quick. She did not have the

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Speaker 2: millennial pause exited.

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Speaker 3: She did not she knew exactly how to exit. You

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Speaker 3: know what I bet I bet Tara helped her exit.

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Speaker 3: They're like, ow, she's so.

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Speaker 2: Cool, so cool, My god, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: So it's I cannot believe that it still surprises me

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Speaker 3: after this many conversations with former child actors, how many

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Speaker 3: things in common we have, it shouldn't surprise me at all.

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Speaker 1: But the only thing I think.

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Speaker 3: She said that I didn't totally resonate with was when

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Speaker 3: she talked about how in touch with her inner child

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Speaker 3: she is. And I was like, I feel like I

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Speaker 3: don't have any access to my inner child because I

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Speaker 3: think I stuffed it so much. I think I to me,

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Speaker 3: you know, but I mean we had a different experience.

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Speaker 3: We were told how to be a child. We were

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Speaker 3: given line readings on how to be a child, yes,

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Speaker 3: instead of being told to discover how to do it.

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Speaker 3: And so I think from the from age ten on,

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Speaker 3: I stopped being a child and just started pretending to

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Speaker 3: be a child or.

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Speaker 2: Just trying to be a grown up as quick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I became an adult pretending to be

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Speaker 3: a child, and so it was like there was no

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Speaker 3: real discovery of childhood or teenagehood even And then that's

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Speaker 3: what I spent my twenties and thirties doing I guess

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Speaker 3: so yeah, but wow, she was really a that story

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Speaker 3: about David Lynch and her saying like, hey, guys, we

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Speaker 3: could shoot a plate.

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Speaker 2: You could do it a different way. This doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to be this hard.

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Speaker 1: I can really help you out anyway.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you all for listening to this episode of

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Speaker 3: Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can do the merch as a plate and

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Speaker 2: add the wheel later.

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