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Speaker 1: is ty Hildebrand. Joining me is always over there in snowy,

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Speaker 1: how are you I gotta tell you, ty, after having

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Speaker 1: We got to go to the hospital. Now we gotta go.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dan, So we don't have a defined sound

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Speaker 2: That's the Transfer Portal, Dan, Yes, the Transfer Portal has

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Speaker 2: Emphasize your Penn State losing a ton of players to transfer.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? What are you feeling when you

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Speaker 2: This let me tell you, sir, he's gonna add a

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, depth is always a concern, but it's not

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Speaker 2: depth is always a concern they've recruited, well, I think

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Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable. And they lose it appears they

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Speaker 1: buffer in there. It's done well. I mean number fourteen,

433
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Speaker 1: number fourteen, Ortlan E. Rottick, Ortlana Rottig, all.

434
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Speaker 2: Right, Daniel Boy, Justin Herbert, he is coming back. He

435
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: had interest from the NFL. He could have gone. By

436
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: mere fact of him staying Oregon, I think is very

437
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: much a contender in the Pac twelve for this coming season.

438
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Speaker 2: Where do you stand on your Oregon Ducks and how

439
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert sticking around will influence their twenty nineteen campaign.

440
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: It's a good roster around him on offense outside of

441
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Speaker 1: some receiver issues. They hired a new receivers coach and

442
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Dylan Mitchell decided to leave early. And maybe it's a

443
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: fresh start for everybody you mentioned Juwan Johnson and how

444
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Speaker 1: you're a skeptic of his ability to come in and

445
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: to put it nicely, but I mean he was still

446
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: a two years ago. He was an impressive weapon when

447
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't counted on as much, when he was like

448
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: the number two and a half guy.

449
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: Right when he caught a game winning touchdown against Iowa. Yes, yes,

450
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: the world was on his side, but you drop a

451
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: couple passes and key situations that tends to turn the

452
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: tide pretty quickly.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, my curiosity is he closer to Matt Barkleay or

454
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and coming back for that senior year, he

455
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: has an incredible offensive line in front of him like

456
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield did. His running backs from last year are

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, Tony Brooks James is gone, but he didn't

458
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: really contribute, And so they have these young running backs

459
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: who are pretty good, and then they bring in some

460
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: good receivers in this recruiting class. Hard to fully count

461
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: on them to contribute a ton. I think it's a

462
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: good decision. This past year was the year given the schedule,

463
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: and I imagined this coming year tough schedule, really tough

464
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: road schedule. It's a tough schedule, opening in Arlington against

465
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Speaker 1: Auburn and then having Stanford and Washington on the road

466
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: as well in the North. It's it's it's tough. There's

467
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: no way around it. I imagine this year looks they

468
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: win one game that they should have won last year

469
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe finished nine to three, But having

470
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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, who, for all of the NFL potential and

471
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Speaker 1: acclaim was not one of the best dozen or so

472
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the country, I think I don't think that

473
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: was I think that's fair for debate last year. So

474
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Speaker 1: he himself has a lot to prove to not end

475
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: up in the why did he come back again conversation

476
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Speaker 1: that we could be having by week seven or eight. Okay,

477
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Speaker 1: that seems fair.

478
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Speaker 2: I I actually think that this should be ranked a

479
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: little bit higher on the list. I think this is

480
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: going to be a big time story that we hit.

481
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: It's interesting, yeah, yeah, because having that kind of veteran

482
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: quarterback leadership, high level quarterback leadership early on in the season.

483
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 2: A lot of times, that's the kind of thing that

484
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: really pays serious dividends in the early part of the year.

485
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: To have that experience, it's a big deal.

486
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Speaker 1: Are you so on your your personal needle, and I

487
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: apologize for bringing up your personal needle. Yes, is it

488
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: wavering in the Matt Barkley or the Baker Mayfield direction?

489
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: Oregan's recruited so well. I mean, there's a really nice

490
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: there's a good roster around him. I'll go more in

491
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: the Baker Mayfield side. Okay, not a lot, but trending. Okay,

492
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: let's go to oldman. I know I played this sound already,

493
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: but I'm going to play the game. All Miss is

494
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: trying to figure itself out on both the offensive and

495
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: defensive sides of the ball dance so naturally, naturally, what

496
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: has Matt Luke done hired huge names to run both

497
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: his offense and defense. He hired Rich Rodriguez, who has

498
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: not been a coordinator in quite some time but has

499
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: one of the best modern offensive minds to run the

500
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: offense for ale Miss in Oxford, and Mike McIntyre to

501
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: run the defense, who has been a coordinator relatively recently,

502
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: did a decent enough job at Duke and is certainly

503
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: a big name, has coached in Oxford. Is responsible, as

504
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: people will be very quick to point out, for bringing

505
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis to Oxford and has named cachet, especially in

506
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: the South, to what extent, I don't know. I'm doubting

507
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: it works because it there seems to be too many

508
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: hurdles at this point in the SEC West to make

509
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: a dent with just interesting coaches when the talent certainly

510
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be there. Yeah, it's a tough side

511
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: of the SEC, isn't it. It's a tough draw, especially

512
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: with Mississippi State recruiting as well as they have, and

513
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: I all miss put together a pretty nice class all

514
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: things considered this year. But moving on to a new quarterback,

515
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: with Alabama getting stronger and stronger and bringing back a

516
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: Heisman contender, Texas A and M only getting stronger LSU,

517
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: I think surprise a lot of people, ourselves included, with

518
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: the step they took forward this past year against a

519
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: lot of winning teams on their schedule. It's a tough

520
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: ask for them to turn things around pretty quickly.

521
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: It's a tough ask to be in the SEC West

522
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: because no matter how realistic, there's got to be that

523
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: constant impulse to want to be Alabama or to try

524
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: to compare yourself to Alabama, if only so you can

525
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: get the hell out of your side of the conference, right,

526
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: and as we talked about time and time again in

527
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: the show, it is driven not just the SEC, but

528
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: the rest of college football. Crazy. I hope it works

529
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: for him, Well, we'll see.

530
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: It'd be entertaining if it did. If they were a

531
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: team that lost a bunch of games forty four to

532
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: forty one, it's success. Probably not for Mike McIntyre, but

533
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: it's a success all right. Moving on to number twelve,

534
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: the Yokos home dog of the week.

535
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: We've got here, You've got here, Jeff Bram staying at

536
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Purdue for quote unquote Jeff Bezos money Dan.

537
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot is transpired with Jeff bezos life, by

538
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: the way, A lot's gone on.

539
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: Initially since we did the last show. Yeah, what does

540
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: this mean for college football? The fact that Jeff Brohm

541
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: would stay at a place like Purdue, he would decide

542
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: not to go back to his alma mater.

543
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: I don't like your tone, by the way, I like

544
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: Purdue a place like Perdue.

545
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: You can't deny the fact that it was the underdog

546
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: story for Purdue to hold one to him.

547
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: It was unexpected. Definitely.

548
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: What does it mean for the B ten for Purdue

549
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: as a program, given the fact that they were able

550
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: to hold on to Jeff Brohm, and also does more

551
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: money mean more problems? Does it mean less patience?

552
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: With a really difficult first half of the schedule for Purdue.

553
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: It is, it really is. I almost feel like when

554
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: I looked at the contract, and you know, the contract

555
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: is only as meaningful as another school's ability to pay

556
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: it out. But if Jeff Brom is incredible this year,

557
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: I still don't think he's gonna be at Purdue for

558
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: very long. But I also think it's an uphill battle

559
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: for Jeff Brom to be incredible at Purdue this year.

560
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: Opening up he has I think they're at Nevada at Nevada. Yeah,

561
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: here's a schedule at Nevada, Vandy at home, TCU at home,

562
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota at home. Then they go to Penn State, back

563
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: home against Maryland, to Iowa back home against Illinois, home

564
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: against Nebraska, and then they close out on the road

565
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: at Northwestern, on the road at Wisconsin, and back in

566
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: West Lafayette for the Indiana Hoosiers. So not a.

567
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: Horrible schedule, but we've got road games in there at

568
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: Penn State at Wisconsin, which is always a difficult place.

569
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: To play and then you know, a non conference game

570
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: against TCU against Vandy, Like.

571
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: There are some tree spots in there. Yeah, put some

572
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: respect on TCU's name. Cheez It Bowl champion. Excuse me, TCU. Yeah,

573
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: they missed the Michigan schools and they don't have Ohiose State.

574
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: It's relative to the rest of the Big Ten, a

575
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: terrific schedule. It's just that that first half with having Vandy, Nevada, TCU,

576
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: it's three bowl teams, four bowl teams, five bowl teams

577
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: starting out. It's a tough schedule all things considered. I'm

578
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: almost comparing it to when an NBA team, you know,

579
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the cap goes up and they sign Evan Turner or

580
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: Timothy Mosgov or something like that, Like, Wow, there's more

581
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: money to play around with in the Big Ten. Let's

582
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: throw some to keep our coach. And if he continues

583
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: to be a five hundred ish coach that you pay

584
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: five six million dollars, that's a lot to saddle. That

585
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: could set a program back. This is me looking at

586
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: the class half empty of it because I really do

587
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: like Jeff.

588
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: Brown, and you're you're really squinting to fun. That's it's

589
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: still it's still a lot of money. It is still

590
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: a lot of money. It's money paid to coaches who

591
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: have succeeded on much bigger levels than just a big upset.

592
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: Once it is, it is a lot. It's also a

593
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: team Bowl wise, don't care that much.

594
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: But they got murder by Auburn. Yeah. I don't know.

595
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: I'll believe the less patience part of this question when

596
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: I see it, because I think Purdue is smart enough

597
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: to know that they've got a really good coach and

598
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: Jeff Brohm, who I think they expect that they were

599
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: going to lose in the Louisville.

600
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Speaker 1: At least they weren't negotiating against nobody. At Least they

601
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: are not one of those schools, he says, remembering Mark

602
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: Helfrich's extension, sure that they were not extending him because

603
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: of a threat that didn't exist. There was a very

604
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: clear threat, and so I understand it. But it's a

605
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: dice roll. I still think it's a dice roll. Yeah.

606
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: I think they will have him for as long as

607
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: he's willing to stay. I think he's got the program

608
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: going in a good direction. I think it'll continue to

609
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: go in a good direction regardless of what the schedule,

610
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: says here, they'll still find a way to get to

611
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: a bowl game because he's that kind of coach. And

612
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: five six million dollars expects.

613
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: More money for people. Huh. Okay, yep, let's move on.

614
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Speaker 1: Let's go to number eleven, the Big Twelve. Adding what

615
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: you have listed here Dan as under the radar offensive minds,

616
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: and in parentheses you've got Matt Wells, you've got Neil Brown.

617
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Matt Wells of course going to Texas Tech from Utah State,

618
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Neil Brown going to West Virginia from Troy. I look

619
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: at this a little bit differently than I think you do.

620
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: So for sure, under the radar as an offensive mind

621
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: going to the Big twelve is notable. Ye.

622
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: I think the under the radar story is actually their defenses, Okay,

623
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 2: because Troy has been really good as a defensive entity

624
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: for a while under Neil Brown. And you know, Matt

625
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: Wells started out very strongly the first two years of

626
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: his tenure at Utah State and then took a few

627
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 2: gap years. Not gonna lie to last year, they saw

628
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: a bit of a resurgence on the defensive side of

629
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: the ball. And it's something we talk about from time

630
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: to time. Here on the show, a little bit of

631
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: defense in the Big Twelve, how that could change the

632
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: landscape is an interesting topic for me. Now, I'm not

633
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: saying they're gonna go out there and be shut down,

634
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: but TCU had a decided advantage when they were able

635
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: to play shut down defense or just any defense in

636
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: that conference. So definitely, longer term, if it works out

637
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: for Matt Wells, if it works out for Neil Brown,

638
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: if they're able to build more of a defensive presence,

639
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: certainly at a place like a Texas Tech, that to

640
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: me is very very interesting, could have longer term ramifications.

641
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at Utah States defense last year, and

642
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they gave up thirty points between the

643
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Air Force game and then the Boise State game to

644
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: finish out the Mountain West.

645
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: Like, you got to have offense if you're going to

646
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: compete in the Big Twelve, no doubt, right, and they did,

647
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Speaker 2: But to have a defense, a defense really goes a

648
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: long way in that conference.

649
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not as concerned about specifically the offense, just

650
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: whether or not Texas Tech with Matt Wells is in

651
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: a better place than West Virginia with with Neil Brown.

652
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 1: And what he was able to do at Troy, both

653
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: winning within the Sun Belt and getting his team ready

654
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: to end succeed against big, high level Power five opponents.

655
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: We sawt against Nebraska, we sought against LSU. There's something

656
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: about getting the most out of his players, and certainly

657
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: it's a different beast at West Virginia. But what Neil

658
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: Brown has been able to prove at Troy and taking

659
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: that to a place in West Virginia is in a

660
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: better place in terms of brand, in terms of program

661
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: strength than Texas Tech is at the moment. So I

662
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: think I like that marriage a little bit better.

663
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I mean, I guess the knock on

664
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Speaker 2: West Virginia's current situation is that being in the Big Twelve,

665
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: they're kind of cut off from the heartbeat of that conference. Sure,

666
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: they're separated geographically from really the bedrock of Oklahoma. The

667
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: SEC is not super close to places, but I mean

668
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: it's closer West Virginia. I guess to your point, though,

669
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: West Virginia isn't a better place just in terms of

670
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: brain I think it's easier to recruit to Morgantown than

671
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: it is to Lubbock.

672
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more difficult to recruit to the

673
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: Big twelve though in Morgantown. Dana Holgerson did a good

674
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: job recruiting Florida, doing a good job with transfers. And

675
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: it's just it's a different kind of monster. And if

676
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna look at Texas Tech as having another advantage

677
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: over West Virginia, it's the presence of a hopefully healthy

678
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Alan Bowman, British comedy legend Alan Bowman sure as a

679
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: foundational piece, whereas West Virginia is again in quarterback transition.

680
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we shall see. Let's move on to

681
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Speaker 2: number ten. Daniel, we ride, we do ride, We ride with.

682
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Speaker 1: Dana Holgerson here. Oh good transition.

683
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Houston has ponied up the cash. That's a long

684
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: gallop I've got going on there.

685
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Speaker 1: I like it, No, keep it rolling?

686
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: Is Dana Holgerson Dan a big enough name, a big

687
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: enough college football presence that if the schedule Houston has

688
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: in front of it ends up working out the way

689
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: I think, at least at this point, and it doesn't

690
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: even have to be this year, but eventually, but they've

691
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: got a nice schedule this year. They've got Oklahoma right

692
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: out of the shoot They've got a non conference game

693
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: against Wazoo, they go on the road at UCF. There's

694
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: some ammo on that scale for sure. Let's say hypothetically,

695
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: and I don't expect this to happen, but hypothetically Dana

696
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: Holgerson runs the table.

697
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Speaker 1: Does he have enough cloud as a college.

698
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: Football mind, a college football coach to get Houston into

699
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Speaker 2: some conversation?

700
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Speaker 1: I think more so than usual. Scott Frost had become

701
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: a big enough name at UCF, but that was over

702
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: the course of two years essentially, Whereas Dana Holgerson has

703
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: built up his name and reputation for a while now,

704
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: even going back to Oklahoma State as a coordinator, and

705
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: what he's been able to accomplish at West Virginia. He

706
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: has the one then BCS game with West Virginia. Whereas

707
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Speaker 1: with you even looking at bigger names of schools on

708
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: the G five level, Charlie Strong is a decent enough name.

709
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: It's not as good as Dana Holerson right now. Brian

710
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Harson decent, But if you're juggling similar schedules, if you're

711
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: comparing things on the margin, saying yes, but Houston has

712
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: you know this heisman ish quarterback and they have Dana

713
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: Holgerson running things. I think it carries more cachet than

714
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: a G five has lately. If ever, ok maybe going

715
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: back to Chris Peterson and Boise State because he had

716
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: built his name up to that point. But outside of that,

717
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: and Houston probably having a talent level that is going

718
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: to be higher than pretty much everybody, perhaps outside of UCF.

719
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: I do like where Houston is at in terms of

720
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: they can in vault themselves into a conversation in a

721
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: more meaningful way than most All right, let's move on, Dan.

722
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Speaker 1: That was our most serious xim questioned but very serious

723
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Cam Houston. Now go with Dana Holgerson to the playoff.

724
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Was whose name big enough give us a call? Breaking

725
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: into the top ten? Yeah? Okay, The ACC is sneaky

726
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: fun conference, I think.

727
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you get to what you've described here

728
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: lovingly as medium profile.

729
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: I meanwhile, medium profile.

730
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: ACC schools and ACC hires. Here you're referring specifically to

731
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: Jeff Collins and Scott Sadderfield, both of whom are taking over.

732
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Speaker 1: In the ACC.

733
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Speaker 2: We've got Collins at Georgia Tech's Sadderfield, of course, taking

734
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Speaker 2: that Louisville job. Who do you trust for who do

735
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: you trust more to do a full on rebuild, revamp

736
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: the program in the I don't want to say short.

737
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to stay long. Let's say medium term.

738
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Speaker 1: If we're saying medium profile, we're saying medium term, right,

739
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: medium medium, Yeah, And I don't think long term quite

740
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: exists anymore in the sport. So medium term is, you know,

741
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: two to three years. I think it's Jeff Collins, I

742
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: think with the talent available. Even though yes, Georgia Tech

743
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: has admission standards which are not normal and not usual,

744
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: it's a tough school to get into as compared to

745
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: some of the schools they're competing with for recruits. But

746
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: the fact is they're in Atlanta, a desirable place. They're

747
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: in a state that produces a ton of talent in Georgia.

748
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: And I think there are some administrative issues at Louisville

749
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: that Scott Saderfield has to deal with that perhaps Jeff

750
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Collins doesn't. I don't know that for sure. I know

751
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: that money is tight with Georgia Tech. They're obstacles that

752
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: are different. I believe Louisville did just lose their biggest

753
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: donor in Father John. Yes, yeah, so there is that

754
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: I am a little bit more impressed at this point

755
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: with what Jeff Collins has done in raising the profile

756
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: of Georgia Tech doing a bunch of waffle house things.

757
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: I just I like it. I like that, even in

758
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: a state where there's such a clear alpha in UGA,

759
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: that Jeff Collins has done a pretty nice and interesting

760
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: job early. I like Jeff Collins a lot.

761
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I know from the people who

762
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: have written in, who listen to this program religiously, the

763
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech fans who are just waiting for something, desperate.

764
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: We met him in Atlanta. They are desperate to have

765
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Speaker 2: things go in a different direction. I think my answer

766
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: is going to be Jeff Collins, because I want to

767
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 2: give those people hope.

768
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Speaker 1: Dan, it's a bit disingenuous to say that Georgia Tech

769
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: needs revamping. I think they just need I don't know,

770
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: because Paul Johnson today, all things considered, pretty good job

771
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: with Tech. It's Louisville that really needs to be sort

772
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: of gutted and down to the studs with where they

773
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: were at last year, and so I don't think that's

774
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: necessary with Georgia Tech. They're shifting things around offensively. I

775
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: still think they're going to succeed enough, but I thought

776
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: a refresh was necessary just in terms of the perception

777
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: of Georgia Tech.

778
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: Moving on, let's go to number eight. Let's talk let's

779
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: talk far ago. Well, yeah, the sound in the background. Yeah,

780
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: North Dakota State lost its head football coach because he

781
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: is going to k State, which I think is a

782
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: pretty big hire.

783
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: Dan. Yeah.

784
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: And then also in the great state of Kansas, we've

785
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: got less Miles coming out of retirement, apparently had enough

786
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: of the doctor Pepper commercials.

787
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: He's a vegan. Now he's a vegan.

788
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: He's still crazy and fun, and of course we're going

789
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: to talk about him all season long. But he is

790
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: now taking over at Kansas. Which of those two situations

791
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: do you like more?

792
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: My conventional wisdom, my Dan ventional wisdom, is that Kansas

793
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: State has made a more foundational hire. He was going

794
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: to come in coming from somewhere. That is one understanding

795
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: the way to coach players, coach staff, go about winning

796
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: business in a way that less Miles has not done

797
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: in a while. And the less Miles hired does not

798
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: feel like when you envision what Kansas needs, it is

799
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: almost like a Chris Climban type, and they went with

800
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: a Less Miles type. What Kansas need is needs is

801
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: and this I am open to being surprised and shocked.

802
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: What Kansas needs is someone to come in and say,

803
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: year one, this is how we're recruiting, this is how

804
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: we're hiring, this is how we are hiring support staff.

805
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: These are the types of plays we're going to run

806
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. This is the specific

807
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: identity I want this program to be. Whereas I can't

808
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: help but look at Less Miles and think, well, the

809
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: guy wants to coach again, and he's gonna just try

810
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: to do what he did at LSU at Kansas and

811
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: it feels like a disaster waiting to happen. We're seeing

812
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: all of these carefully constructed stories of it's a new

813
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: less Miles. Less Miles has really gone through a transformation,

814
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: and I think at this point it's hard to teach

815
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: that old dog new tricks. That's how I'm looking at

816
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: the situation. Does he need to learn new tricks?

817
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: Because I look at the less Miles higher not from

818
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: the standpoint of he's going to turn them into any

819
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: kind of superpower over now, but he is sort of

820
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: an instant shot of credibility, and that program desperately needs something.

821
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: They got to rebuild their image first, because this is

822
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: a program that's been down and out for a long time.

823
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: I think an obvious place to start if you're Kansas

824
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: is to try and inject some excitement back into your

825
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: program and then hopefully use that as a catalyst to

826
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: build moving forward. Less Miles probably isn't going to be

827
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: there in five years. But if he's able to try

828
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: and get a program moving in a good direction, hand

829
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: it off to somebody. Look how much worse can it get?

830
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Dan?

831
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad move at all. That

832
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: being said, I like the Chris I'm a higher an

833
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: awful lot at k State.

834
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: Is that an actual winning formula? Though? Are there teams

835
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: that have actively, like had three year interim coaches that

836
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: have worked and like have changed the fortunes around of

837
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: a program and had I mean on to a new

838
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: guy on a higher profile level.

839
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: Isn't that what North carol We're going to talk about

840
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: this Not to give too much away, but we're going

841
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: to talk about North Carolina.

842
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: Talking about North Carolina. Isn't isn't that sort of the

843
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: same model he coached there, he did come he did there. Yeah,

844
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: he coached there.

845
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: But he's still the old dog coming into a situation

846
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: where some expect him to need to learn new tricks.

847
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Mac Brown specifically at North

848
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: Carolina is different because I don't think he was looking

849
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: for any job to come back for. I think North

850
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Carolina was a specific job that he said to himself,

851
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to coach again, but if this comes open,

852
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to jump on it. That I think it

853
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: is that specific with him, whereas I think Les Miles.

854
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: We heard about him interviewing at Houston, We've heard about

855
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: his interest in a number of jobs, and him taking

856
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: the Kansas job feels like a I just need to

857
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: get back in the game kind of thing, rather than

858
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: I am going to do what it takes and thinking

859
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: about it in terms I've always going to get it

860
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: in a good place and move on. I just I

861
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: can't think of a program right now on a Power

862
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: five level where that's actually been a formula that has worked. Yeah.

863
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Either put in the time like somebody

864
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: like Dan Mullen did Atssissippi State, taking what felt like

865
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: an also ran program and building up a foundation, hiring

866
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: super well, consistently investing a ton of time into the

867
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: program to get it into a much better place. And

868
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: it's believe me, it's not just you saying this. This

869
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: seems to be the conventional wisdom that less Miles can

870
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: turn things around for the next guy. Yeah. I don't

871
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: see it.

872
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I see the turnaround story.

873
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: But I think if you're Kansas, you're probably tired of

874
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: being the bottom dweller, both in terms of win loss

875
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: and in terms of the way you're perceived by recruits

876
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: by other football programs.

877
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: And sure Les Miles was there.

878
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: He clearly was willing to take the job, and he

879
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: does bring with him some degree of credibility that has

880
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: not been there and a head football coach in quite

881
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: some time. So it's been so bad, I wonder how

882
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: much worse it can get, Like, how much worse could

883
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: he seriously do than the guy before him or the

884
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: guy before him?

885
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: I agree, I just for how high profile it is,

886
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know the exact number that they're paying him,

887
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that matters all that much. But in

888
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: terms of what is out there as it relates to

889
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: younger coaches, interesting minds, up and comers, great recruiters that

890
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: are not in their sixties. I hesitate to look at

891
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: this as a big win because of what it will take,

892
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: specifically at Kansas, a place where they considered should we

893
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: just shut down the program? Should we just you know,

894
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: cut our losses, because that's where we were within this

895
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: last year. Well, I tell you this much. I don't

896
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: see it with less miles.

897
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. He learned how to wear

898
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: a foundation in those doctor Pepper commercials. He had a

899
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: lot of makeup on that face.

900
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be very much dead. And he's now a vegan.

901
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: So there's that. Moving on.

902
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what this sound is. I just found it.

903
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: I love it. We used to like listen to the

904
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: hits of the country and for me a lot of

905
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: the times for the first time, and figure out how

906
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: we felt about them. So this has nothing to do

907
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 1: with number seven. I can find a way to twist

908
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: it in. Well, I'm sure we.

909
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: Could, of course, the professionals here in the podcasting room,

910
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: but number seven, what's your number seven thing?

911
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: So number seven Georgia loses both of their coordinators. That'd

912
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: be Jim Cheney going over going back to Tennessee, and

913
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: mel Tucker understandably so taking the head coaching job at Colorado,

914
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: and so for a team that has done a magnificent

915
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: job both on and off the field, recruiting, winning, dominating

916
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: the SEC East mostly, my question now becomes will Kirby

917
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: smart in moving on from sort of season lieutenants that

918
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: he had, will he empower the promoted guys because he

919
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: promoted from within. James Coley now takes over the offense.

920
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: He was a co oc last year, but it really

921
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: did seem like Jim Cheney's offense, and then has a

922
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: co defensive coordinator situation after Meltucker moved on. Will he

923
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: empower them like he empowered Meltucker and Jim Cheney to

924
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: just do their thing and do it well. Or if

925
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: they go down, if they go down fourteen to three

926
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: to South Carolina, does Kirby panic and say run the

927
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Georgia playbook, don't run the James Coley playbook kind of thing.

928
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and it'll be interesting too from the standpoint

929
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: of coaching turnover and just what we see going on

930
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: on the other side of the conference with Alabama, because

931
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: that's been a story last couple of years. Yeah, of

932
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: course there's always this turnover. Now under Nick Saban, it's

933
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: going to be the same deal again in twenty nineteen

934
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: for him, where he has to retool his staff, find

935
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: a way to get everyone rowing in the same direction,

936
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: and still organize a team. Kirby could find himself in

937
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: that situation before long, because recruiting has been incredible in

938
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: his time at Georgia. It has been incredible. And we're

939
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: not talking like USC level talent. We're talking near Bama

940
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: level talent, near Clemson level talent what he's pulling in.

941
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: So, hey, that out recruited Clemson for.

942
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: Sure, That in and of itself gives you a bit

943
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: of a safety debt regardless of who your coaches are.

944
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: So you would hope that he would continue to let

945
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: the guys underneath him call the shots, find a way

946
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: to put them in a good situation, to let them

947
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: flourish and show some personality in the game plan. But this,

948
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: honestly is one of the questions that I don't think

949
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: we have a definitive answer to.

950
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: We just don't know.

951
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: He hasn't been a head coach long enough to really

952
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: really give us a tell. Here, No, and those were

953
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: two very savvy hires, bringing Mel Tucker over from Alabama.

954
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: I think he was the defensive backs coach, yeah, sure,

955
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: essentially a co defensive backs coach with Nick Saban and

956
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: Jim Cheney, who we've long considered to be that offensive consultant.

957
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 2: That he was a savvy hire in that Kirby Smart

958
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: didn't have to think about those things all that much.

959
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: He had a ton of trust in those coordinators by

960
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: all accounts, and so as it looks right now, I

961
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: believe James Coley ran the offenses at Miami for a

962
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: couple of years where they had the skill players, They

963
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: had decent enough quarterback play. The lines were not great,

964
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: but these were al golden teams, and it's hard to

965
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 2: fully look at what he did as a complete picture

966
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: of what he's able to do, especially with the type

967
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: of talent he has at Georgia. I'm a little bit worried.

968
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: I think it's possible that they lose a game that

969
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: they would not have lost. Do they still go ten

970
00:52:59,600 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: and two?

971
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: For sure? I am worried about this transition here, just

972
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: because the strength of that staff was it seemed Kirby

973
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Smart's trust of his coordinators. Interesting. Okay, yep, interesting number six. Dan,

974
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Let's go back to.

975
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: The future for a second if we could. We sort

976
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: of gave away the game here. Yeah, and talked about

977
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: this one ahead of schedule. But Mac Brown is returning

978
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: to North Carolina. Mac Brown, I believe made that announcement

979
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 2: right after we hit stop a couple months ago, which

980
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: is always fun from a podcasting perspective.

981
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: Got a love on demand audio. All right. We talked

982
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: about this a little bit and how this model ends

983
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: up working for teams who have tried to use it

984
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: in the past. But let's talk specific to North Carolina

985
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: for a second. It's interesting.

986
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: Mac Brown's a an affable figure in college football, lovable figure.

987
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: What does UNC going in the Mac Brown direction signal

988
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 2: to you, signaled to us as college football fans about

989
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: what North Carolina's goals are going to be in the

990
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: short term. I look at this and I say to

991
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: myself that this is just begging for some kind of

992
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: coach in waiting scenario two to three years down the road.

993
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: I don't know who that guy is. But the good

994
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: news for North Carolina is they play in the coastal.

995
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: There's no giant hurdle this is a division that pit

996
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: won last year while not being all that good. So

997
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: you've got Georgia Tech, You've got Virginia Miami with a

998
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 1: new coach, Georgia Tech with a new coach, Virginia Tech

999
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: with a not super exciting offseason with some of their losses.

1000
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: I just saw that what Josh Jackson went to Maryland

1001
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: immediately eligible and a duke team starting over at quarterback,

1002
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: and back to Carolina. So the goals can be pretty

1003
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: high and not be all that difficult to attain. You

1004
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: win the Coastal. That's a great goal. You can win

1005
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: the Coastal going in four at least over the next

1006
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: couple of years potentially. I don't think North Carolina's goals

1007
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: are anything beyond consistent goal team, bowl team. Excuse me,

1008
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,479
Speaker 1: that's fine. I think that's what that signals. I don't

1009
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: know what North Carolina's actual program ceiling is with having

1010
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: Clemson on the other side of the conference, but with

1011
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: mac Brown and saying we want to be pretty good,

1012
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to imagine mac Brown being anything beyond

1013
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: pretty good, if that makes sense, I agree with that.

1014
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: I think they're happy to go to the Belk Bowl. Yeah,

1015
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Yeah, does the a SEC go

1016
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: to the bell bawl? I don't even remember. It seems

1017
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: like they should. I got you. Let's move on. Let's

1018
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: go to number five. I mean the coaching console purl swallow.

1019
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: So look, I already played that war.

1020
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: I already played the transfer portal sound here, which is

1021
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 2: what I probably should have held out for number five.

1022
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: This isn't a coaching carousel, but it is a quarterback carousel.

1023
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: We saw a number of high profile transfers in the

1024
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: world of college football. Chief among them, of course, Justin

1025
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: Field's going to Ohio State. We already mentioned Jalen Hurts

1026
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: going to Oklahoma. We had Tate Martel yep going down

1027
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: to Miami. We even had Brandon Wimbush going to UCF.

1028
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: There are a bunch of names there.

1029
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 1: I've got the whole list of quarterbacks in the transfer portal.

1030
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: By the way, there's a number of them, right, I mean,

1031
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: you could read Kelly Bryan to Miszoo. You could read

1032
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: till you're blue in the face, Kelly Briant. Who else?

1033
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: Ben Hicks to Arkansas from SMU, Devon Modster, Devin Monster

1034
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: UCLA to cal Gone or perhaps cal gets a decent

1035
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: enough quarterback, Sean Robinson also to Missoo. Jack Tuttle, a

1036
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: highly touted uh oh yeah out of high school Indiana. Yeah.

1037
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: Alex Delton goes to TCU because they have some depth

1038
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: issues at quarterback, Austin Kendall. We remember the very quick

1039
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: controversy over Lincoln Riley preventing him from transferring within the conference.

1040
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma to West Virginia cam Risen we mentioned earlier in

1041
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: the show, Texas to Utah and then Mischelle also Texas

1042
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: to SMU. A lot going on on the oh, the

1043
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: Bower Hour. We forgot the Bower Hour.

1044
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: Of course, Let's focus in on Justin Fields, Jalen Hurts,

1045
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: and who well.

1046
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Tate Martin, Tate Martel. Yeah, let's say those three guys

1047
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: who best fits into their new offensive scheme. I would

1048
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: even maybe add Kelly Bryant and Kelly high profile enough.

1049
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah at Miszoo. If you are ranking from one through four,

1050
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: how would you rank those four names?

1051
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: Again?

1052
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, Ohio State, Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma, Tate Martel, Miami,

1053
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: Kelly Bryant Miszoo.

1054
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: Justin Fields like the Justin Fields feels like the smoothest transition,

1055
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: and as Ohio State moved away from constant power game

1056
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: with JT. Barrett moving towards more downfield with Dwayne Haskins,

1057
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: they opened things up. They spread to pass more than

1058
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: they spread to run. I think that should benefit Justin Fields.

1059
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts TBD, but certainly looks to be more wide

1060
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: open at Oklahoma than what he was used to at Alabama,

1061
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: or at least what Alabama had him do with the Tide.

1062
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: Tate Martell TBD, but he gets Danos. Dan Enos is

1063
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: somebody who ran a nice I don't know how to

1064
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: describe Alabama's offense last year. It was sort of a

1065
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: downfield power RPO. Yeah that sounds everything, sure, and then

1066
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant feels very different to Miszoo. But at times

1067
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: this Missoo offense was quite fun, especially look at the

1068
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: game against Florida. So I'm gonna say Fields is in

1069
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: the best place. Tate Martell, I would say maybe slightly ahead,

1070
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: although this Miami offense was pretty rough at time. So

1071
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Fields, Hurts, Martel Bryant.

1072
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Fields. I agree with you that he

1073
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: feels like a very natural.

1074
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: Different from what he was asked to do with Georgia for.

1075
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: Different different for sure, but maybe a better fit for him,

1076
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: just in terms of his skill set. I think he's

1077
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: number one, but it's tough to say because we haven't

1078
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: seen enough of them. It's a little bit of him,

1079
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: but we haven't seen enough of him in a big

1080
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: game to really say that definitively. But I feel like

1081
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: we know enough about Jalen Hurts and Kelly Bryant to

1082
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: know that they're not number one. I would put and

1083
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: this is just me because I'm forever a fan of

1084
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback, being a Notre Dame fan.

1085
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Just what I do.

1086
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to say Fields won Tate Martel two at Miami,

1087
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: followed by Jalen Hurts three at Oklahoma and Kelly Bryant

1088
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: four at at MISSOO. I'm very curious to see what

1089
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: dan Enos is able to do with Tate Martel, another

1090
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: dual threat kid, not as big as Justin Fields, but

1091
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: that situation at Miami, We're going to talk about it

1092
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: here again.

1093
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Rough offense at times last too much away.

1094
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, rough offense at times last year. But dan Enos

1095
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: is a guy who some thought could take over for

1096
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: Nick Saban at Alabama. He's a creative offensive mind. He

1097
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 2: had a very good year. To get him to come

1098
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: over to Miami and I'll be the offensive coordinator is

1099
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: a huge coup for Anny Diaz.

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: Well, he was just last year. I think he was

1101
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: just the quarterbacks coach and maybe associate head coach right

1102
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: Locksley running the offense, and I guess gaddis he was

1103
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: not an offensive coordinator. Not. No. You can credit him

1104
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: with the development of Tua in a number of ways,

1105
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: and hopefully that carries over to Tate Martell if you're

1106
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: a Miami fan. But yeah, he was in line to

1107
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator until he allegedly left under the

1108
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: cover of night. He Baltimore colted.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's my ranking. I think we know a

1110
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: lot about Jalen Hurts. I think he'll be successful. Not

1111
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: sure what that offense is going to look like. Have

1112
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: a lot of faith that Lincoln Riley can put a

1113
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: system around him that will meet his skill set. Right,

1114
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: But I feel like we know a lot about Jalen

1115
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 2: Hurts and Kelly Bryant. I think there's a ceiling there

1116
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: and I don't know what. Like you said, he is

1117
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: different to Missouri I'm just not sure what that's going

1118
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: to look like. So yeah, let's go with the art

1119
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: of the possible and two guys who haven't seen a

1120
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: whole lot of game action justin fields and Tate Martel

1121
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: won two number four.

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01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: This doesn't make sense.

1123
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Speaker 2: It makes no sense. It was just in front of me.

1124
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: We talked about Miami and Tate Martel. Of course they

1125
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: get a prominent blue chip recruit to come over from

1126
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: Ohio State. We talk about Danny Noose coming over from Alabama.

1127
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 2: Haven't talked enough about Manny Diaz coming over from Temple

1128
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: Slash from Miami. Mark Rick retired again right after we

1129
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: hit the stop button one of these Sundays.

1130
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Amazing how that works in the office.

1131
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: Mark Rick no longer at Miami kind of took a

1132
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: lot of folks by surprise. Miami moved very quickly to

1133
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: reel back Manny Diaz, who had earlier in the off

1134
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: season taken the job up a Temple. But man Diaz

1135
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: clearly finds a home in Miami. He's from Miami, so

1136
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: to bring him back into the fold was sort of

1137
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: a big deal for them. Why is he different, I

1138
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: guess is the question. Because you know, Mark Rick was

1139
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: an alum of the U and clearly he had, yeah,

1140
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: a lot of proven experience in the SEC East. Was

1141
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: a very successful coach at Georgia before he overstayed. Is

1142
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: welcome a bit I guess on a house to describe it.

1143
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 2: But he was supposed to be the guy who was

1144
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: going to rebuild the Canes into what they were previously. Now,

1145
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: Manny Diaz a local guy. A younger guy, mind you,

1146
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: but a local guy, someone who knows the culture. He

1147
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: is stepping back into that role now as the head

1148
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: football coach at Miami. Why is he going to be

1149
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: different in your estimation?

1150
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't know. That's the question.

1151
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: And the concerning part of this is Miami's a tough

1152
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: place to win on a high level. And that's partially

1153
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: because of Clemson. It's part vitally just because you're recruiting

1154
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: against Florida State and Florida. This is even though you

1155
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: have talent in your backyard, you're recruiting against giants. Alabama

1156
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: has done a phenomenal job in South Florida recently, and

1157
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: so they have started I think the twenty twenty class

1158
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: quite well, and I do like the hires that he made,

1159
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: he hired I believe Louisiana Tech's defensive coordinator to come

1160
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: in and at least co run the defense for the Canes.

1161
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: I like what he's done early, but I've made the

1162
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: comparison before that I think there's a lot of crossover

1163
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: with Miami and USC where there's that insular culture of

1164
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: hiring Miami guys, you know, having Randy Shannon, having Mark Richt,

1165
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: where there is something comforting in a bad way about

1166
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: going in that direction. Everything appears to me that Many

1167
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: Diaz should succeed. He should recruit well, They should be

1168
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: able to bring in decent enough quarterbacks, even though it's

1169
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: pretty tough to develop ice quarterbacks in Miami or in Florida,

1170
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 1: just because defenses are so good on the high school level.

1171
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: But I think talent wise, Miami will be at a

1172
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: place that they haven't been in a long time under

1173
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: many Diaz, and a big reason for that is he

1174
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: is on the come up. This is the job he

1175
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: has dreamt about, This is the job he will pour

1176
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: every single fiber of his being into. Whereas Mark ricked,

1177
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: if all things were going his way, he'd have been

1178
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: in Athens then wasn't up to him, and so he

1179
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: had a nice landing spot in South Florida. But I

1180
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: think there is something about Manny Diaz rethinking how Miami

1181
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: has run being an extremely positive thing.

1182
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: I also think being from Miami, you know, we're not

1183
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: too too big on getting the hometown guy or the

1184
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: alum to come back to school. But we've done this

1185
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: show long enough and talk to a number of personalities

1186
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: just on the recruiting side, who really consistently indicate that

1187
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: the culture of the Florida high school football player of

1188
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: South Florida in particular is just a little bit different

1189
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 2: and you gotta be plugged into that sometimes to be successful.

1190
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: Manny Diz certainly is in a way that I don't

1191
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: think Mark Rick never could have been. So I'm curious

1192
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: to see if he is able to somehow reinstitute that

1193
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: swagger at Miami.

1194
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: It feels sort of intangible and hopefully it's in a

1195
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: good way. Ty, we have breaking news. If you want

1196
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: to play that sound, if you have that sound on

1197
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: your board, what is it with the first pick in

1198
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen Fantasy Things Draft, Dan Rubensin has selected

1199
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: many Diaz. His father was the mayor of my I

1200
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: just wanted to get in on that pick in late February.

1201
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to add that to our list. Please add it.

1202
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to add it to our running list. Let

1203
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: me jot that down.

1204
01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: Okay, moving on, it's the only Alabama themed sound that

1205
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: I have here. As we crack into the top three again,

1206
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: sort of hinted at this one before, but Alabama assistants

1207
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: again leaving in mass this is becoming more of a

1208
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: feature than the bug. Yeah, so where do we stand

1209
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: on how this affects Nick Saban?

1210
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: Dan? Where do we stand?

1211
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: Is this we know? I think it's been answered, Yeah,

1212
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: I mean is this? Should this be a talking point now?

1213
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen? It clearly worked out? Okay, last year,

1214
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: Nick Saban's clearly proven that he knows how to manage

1215
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: a situation where there's a lot of coaching turnover. Is

1216
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: there any reason for concern here at all?

1217
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: No? I don't think there's any reason because over and over,

1218
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: year over year, I mean, how many former Sabin assistants

1219
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 1: are head coaches right now or coordinators somewhere on both

1220
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. He brought in a number of

1221
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: well known enough coaches. I think Kyle Flood is running

1222
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line, Sark is the offensive coordinator, Pete Golding

1223
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: who was there last year. I think it's going to

1224
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: run the defense. I suppose, along with Nick Saban, Charles Kelly,

1225
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: who ran the defense at Florida State, Salsonseri, who's a

1226
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: former linebackers coach for Nick Saban way back when. There's

1227
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: a number of familiar names. So this specific class of

1228
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: coaches I'm not terribly worried about. I'm more concerned about,

1229
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: is there a way to picture to envision an Alabama

1230
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: downfall that is not related to Nick Saban just got

1231
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: bored the fire turned out. Okay, you're talking If it's

1232
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: not coaching attrition, I don't know what it is.

1233
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: You're talking about some sort of rising threat in the SEC.

1234
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: I imagine it is. I imagine it's I mean, we

1235
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: know the clear threat right now is Georgia, but they're

1236
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 1: not in the same division. They don't have to play them,

1237
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, after a tough game, you know, or sandwich

1238
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: between tough games in October or something like that. It's

1239
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: not that weekend week out challenge that the SEC West

1240
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: has been certain years, not every year. So my question

1241
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: to you right now is what will, what would what

1242
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: will or would contribute to Alabama's demise quicker, and that

1243
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: is having that almost on equal footing power like Auburn

1244
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: has been occasionally or LSU has been occasionally, or having

1245
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: that depth of division and having the Mississippi the Mississippi

1246
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: schools look very good, having Jimbo do really good things

1247
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: at A and M, having Arkansas become sneaky feisty with

1248
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: Chad Morris. Do you think it's depth of pretty good

1249
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: or having that toe to toat Souper. I think it's

1250
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: a division.

1251
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: I think it's depth, to be honest, because when you've

1252
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: got the depth, you've got a constant threat of being

1253
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 2: knocked off on any given Saturday, no weeks off, right, Yeah,

1254
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 2: And I think that probably puts more of a strain

1255
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 2: on the dynasty than anything else, just having week in

1256
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: week out difficult competition. Now, you could make the case

1257
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: that it's still pretty damn tough to play in the SEC.

1258
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: The terms in the SEC West, even if they're not

1259
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,480
Speaker 2: logging as many wins as some of their other competition

1260
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: around college football, still pretty damn good. But my answer

1261
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: I think is always depth on that front.

1262
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's I think what we what we've seen

1263
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: with Alabama struggling with Mississippi State a couple of years ago,

1264
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: losing to Ole miss losing to Texas A and M.

1265
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: They didn't lose too excellent teams. They lost to very

1266
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: good teams, but not teams toe to toe talent wise,

1267
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,719
Speaker 1: coaching wise, consistent results wise. Yeah, okay, that's right. Okay,

1268
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: moving on last two, number two, lou By tomorrow you'll

1269
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: barely be able to breathe. Okay.

1270
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: So that is our sound clip that we played for

1271
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: beck Meyer syndrome. Yes, we mean that, no derogatory healthway.

1272
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I should have played a different sound.

1273
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine, We stand by it.

1274
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: Irbant Myers retired, we wish him well. That means that

1275
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: Ryan Day has been promoted. So beck Meyer syndrome is

1276
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: is gone.

1277
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it appears.

1278
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: The The question is eradicated, eradicated, thank you. The question

1279
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: is this you've got here in read lettering. How much

1280
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 2: closer does this bring the likes of Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin,

1281
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 2: Michigan State.

1282
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: To Ohio State.

1283
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: I would just ask a larger question, and it's one

1284
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 2: I hinted at a couple weeks ago.

1285
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: But how much farther has Purdue distanced themselves?

1286
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 2: Now that's I think the natural Yeah, next question, No,

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Speaker 2: But I mean urban Meyer is a legend. Urban Meyer

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Speaker 2: is one of the greatest coaches in the history of

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Speaker 2: college football. And Ryan Day is stepping into a situation

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Speaker 2: where he's got obviously a lot of talent. He's got

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01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: a great situation at Ohio State, and I think he

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: proved his medal in the early part of the season

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Speaker 2: last year when urban Meyer was suspended.

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Speaker 1: He did a good job. But it feels very rare

1295
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: to me that you have a legend retire and then

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Speaker 1: the program that is handed over, presumably to a younger

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01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: coach with less experience. All that, it's rare to me

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Speaker 1: that the program is going to continue without skipping a

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: beat like what we've seen at Oklahoma with Lincoln Riley

1300
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: taking over for Bob Stoops. Is actually pretty rare. So

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Speaker 1: I guess my question is whether or not, in your estimation,

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01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: Ryan Day is going to be able to continue on

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01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: this trajectory for a period of let's say longer than

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: three years in Columbus. I think that's impossible because of

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01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 1: what he's replacing, and he's got to fall and and

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Speaker 1: that's sort of my point.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's where you get into the danger zone

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: a little bit, because expectations at Ohio State have been

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01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: so high for so long. Ohio State has been incredible

1310
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: under Urban Meyer. I don't have his record in front

1311
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: of me, but you can count on one hand, two

1312
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: hands the number of losses he's had. So for Ryan

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01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: Day to take over now, I think on some level

1314
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: expectations have to be lowered. They need to at least

1315
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: give him a chance to find his way in Columbus

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Speaker 2: and please don't hold him to the same standard as Erbimeyer.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's right. The good news for you,

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Speaker 1: whether or not the gap has been closed between Ohio

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01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: State and the other recent Big ten powers, is there's

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Speaker 1: continuity on the coaching staff. Larry Johnson hangs around. I

1321
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: know they promoted Brian Hartline. He came in during all

1322
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: the mess with wide receiver coach. They bring in the

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01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: two coaches from Michigan, Greg Madison, who has succeeded pretty

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01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: much everywhere recently, and Kevin Wilson I believe has stayed

1325
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,520
Speaker 1: on as the offensive coordinator. But they bring in Oklahoma

1326
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: State coordinator as sort of a co coordinator Mike Yersik,

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: who did some good things in still Water. So I

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01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: like what he's done in terms of continuity, rounding out

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: the staff in his own sort of vision. But to

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: look at the consistency of everything Urban Meyer did both

1331
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: on the field and on the recruiting trail, it feels impossible. However,

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Speaker 1: the good news is Wisconsin just took a step back.

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 1: For sure, Michigan State looks like a mess on offense,

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01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: and just the year after year now they're wasting an

1335
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 1: excellent defense. Michigan is trying it yet again to figure

1336
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: out offense, and Penn State, for as well as they've recruited,

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01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: have not fully delivered in closing out close games, and

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01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 1: so there is not that clear ascending team to replace

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: Ohio State. So that's why I still think he could

1340
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: continue things in the short and medium term. But to

1341
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 1: do it like a maniac cyborg is it's asking a lot. Yeah,

1342
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: it is okay. And finally we come back to old.

1343
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: Trustee and talk about USC and they're coaching drama. So

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01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: Clay Helton, Clay Helton was retained. He's going to be

1345
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: head football coach at twenty nineteen. He will be on

1346
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 2: the hot seat. I don't think there's any question about that.

1347
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: But he made a splash because when Texas Tech decided

1348
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: to part ways with Cliff Kingsburg, obviously that was a

1349
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: name that was very sought after in many circles, both

1350
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 2: college football and otherwise. As we came to know as

1351
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: he took the Arizona Cardinal's job. Cliff Kingsbury signed on

1352
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: with USC and then eventually signed out rather quickly. That's

1353
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: not because of USC, it's because a better situation came about,

1354
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: but definitely suffice to say it, and it's a bit

1355
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 2: of a bit of a dramatic situation there, and now

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: Clay Helton's in a spot where he has to try

1357
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: and find a way to piece this back together. Now,

1358
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: I didn't do poorly in getting a replacement for Cliff Kingsbury.

1359
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be just fine there. But

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: the larger point is that USC is still in a

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01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: very tenuous spot now as we enter this new season.

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: Are we going into the year assuming that Clay Helton's

1363
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: a lame duck?

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Speaker 1: Is that fair? Is that realistic? Where do you come

1365
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: down on that? He would have to not only win

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01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: the South and win the conference, but do so in

1367
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: such an emphatic way. This offense undergram Harrald would have

1368
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: to be so incredible. The defense would have to be outstanding.

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01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: Taking a I mean the defense was actually very good

1370
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: last year, but would have to They would have to

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Speaker 1: be a playoff contender for most of the year. That

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Speaker 1: it would be unfathomable to get rid of Clay Hilton

1373
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: after the year. And that seems far fetched. Yeah, that

1374
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: seems like everything would have to click in such an

1375
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: unimaginable way. And they've recruited well enough. This past season's

1376
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: recruiting class was clearly underwhelming, but before that, defensively, there's

1377
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: a lot of talent up front. Secondary has been good,

1378
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 1: there's been continuity on defense. I just you're talking about

1379
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: ten and a half being the number that he has

1380
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: to hit, I guess in order to see another year,

1381
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: because there were references and reports that his buyout was

1382
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: astronomical and that was a big reason why they just

1383
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: didn't want to eat double digit millions of dollars on

1384
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: a guy who had just won the Pac twelve for sure,

1385
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: but understandable frustration with how they looked last year. We'll see.

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a lame duck. Do you think that

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01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: it's a situation that there is no number that he

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 1: could hit short of going undefeated. If he wins ten.

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01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: Games, it's it's a tough out to get rid of them.

1390
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Speaker 1: They lose close and respectably.

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if he were to go, I mean,

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 2: what's the number, what's the number that he has to

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01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: get to? You are you saying ten and a half

1394
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 2: is yerr over runder? Yeah, he has to go probably

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01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: over ten and a half.

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: I say nine and a half. I'm looking at their

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: schedule right now, I say nine and a half.

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01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: If he goes ten and two, he keeps it, but

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: nine and three puts him on the brink eight and four.

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Speaker 1: It's over their schedule because last year it was a

1401
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: rough start their schedule. I think they were at Stanford

1402
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: and at Texas in consecutive weeks, and they have Stanford

1403
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: at home like the their schedule until I guess early

1404
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: October late September. They're at Washington at Notre Dame with

1405
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: a bye week between them. But on the back half,

1406
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. USC's road games are as follows b

1407
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 1: Yu fine, not easy, good young quarterback, but fine at Washington,

1408
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: very tough at Notre Dame, very tough, and then the

1409
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: back half is at Colorado, at ASU, at cal Ucla

1410
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: obviously in LA they have Oregon at home. Who knows

1411
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,839
Speaker 1: what Oregon looks like by November. It's not a terrible schedule.

1412
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: So nine and three, nine three, bye week between. Yeah.

1413
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: If if they go nine and three and look pretty good,

1414
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: I think he's gone. Nine and three is danger zone. Yeah,

1415
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1416
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: I am going into the season under the assumption that

1417
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 2: there is more gravity pulling Clay Hilton out of that

1418
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 2: job than keeping him in it.

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01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 1: What if they go nine and three beating Washington, Notre

1420
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: Dame in Oregon and they lose on a hail Mary,

1421
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: they lose two games because of quarterback injury, but at

1422
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: fully healthy, they're clearly good, winning in Seattle and in

1423
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: South Bend and beating the Ducks.

1424
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: What if they go eight and four, losing to all

1425
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: the good teams, but still somehow win the Pac twelve.

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01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: Oh God, he's gone to cause the championship because winning

1427
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: the Packed What is winning the Pac twelve and twenty

1428
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: nineteen means? I don't know, it doesn't feel like much

1429
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: if you're winning it at eight and four. Presumably nine

1430
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: and four. That means that the PAC twelve is probably

1431
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: not all that good. I know that means that means

1432
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: you lost to a not good Washington team, but maybe

1433
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: beat them in the championship game. You lose to Notre Dame,

1434
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: which seems like it'll be a respectable loss. You lose

1435
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: to Oregon, who then turns out to either not be

1436
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: good enough to play in the championship game or just

1437
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: not be that good. And I just if they go

1438
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: nine to four win the PAC twelve, it's an indictment

1439
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: against the Pack twelve for sure.

1440
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 2: All right, well, right in, let us know what you think,

1441
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 2: tell us when we're wrong, where we're right, where you agree,

1442
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 2: where we should have asked questions, and where Dan's list

1443
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: is wrong?

1444
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: Can I can I pause it? One more bonus question?

1445
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: This is a good one we received for our Q

1446
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: and A a couple of weeks ago that we didn't have

1447
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,480
Speaker 1: time to get to. Yes, that now feels more appropriate

1448
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: than ever, because I need to think about the types

1449
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: of films and in order I will be showing my

1450
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:30,799
Speaker 1: son when he's of age. Okay, so short and saucy,

1451
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: let's assume from Reddit, I don't know. Wants to know

1452
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 1: favorite Disney and Pixar movie. Okay, well, can't you group

1453
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: both Disney and Pixarty. Obviously, let's go non Pixar. Disney

1454
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 1: and Pixar. We talked.

1455
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 2: We talked about this on a walk back from the

1456
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: train that we took to Wrigley Field when we were

1457
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: out in Chicago, didn't we.

1458
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: That's true. Yep, So you want to go.

1459
01:19:56,040 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 2: Animated versus computer animated? I think it come down to

1460
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 2: one A and one B being a Laddin Lion King

1461
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: for the animated.

1462
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: Variety probably, although there are people that are super into

1463
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: Emperor's New Groove. No, come on, I did not know.

1464
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: Come on until recently. I am telling you get out

1465
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: of here. I am telling you that's a reality. There

1466
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: are people that are into Little Mermaid. There are people

1467
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 1: into Beauty and the Beast. You're talking about your older nineties,

1468
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 1: eighties classics, But there have been some big movies.

1469
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: The answer is, I think one Lion King a very

1470
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: very close second, and sometimes I change my mind is

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: Aladdin and then everyone else. Those are the top two.

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: No Bambie, no Peter Pan for you, No, not for me.

1473
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: Duck Tail's the movie, No, No, a goofy movie, Pocahontas

1474
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 1: Pokehontas was good, James the Giant Peach No, okay. I

1475
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: think my answer is Aladdin, though seeing Will Smith as

1476
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: the Genie in that commercial down Ane it gave me

1477
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: some hesitation. You got an escape pod if you want it.

1478
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to stay with Aladdin right now. Okay.

1479
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: And that's that's never one acceptable animated Disney movie. Now

1480
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: where it becomes difficulties Pixar, for sure.

1481
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: Pixar gets very, very difficult because there are elements of

1482
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: all those movies that I find very appealing. There are

1483
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 2: movies like Wally that are criminally underrated. Yeah, great movie.

1484
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: There are also movies like UP that I don't think

1485
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: are on the same level. But let's be honest, the firs.

1486
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 1: There is emotional manipulation though. The first ten minutes of

1487
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: UP just gutted me as a human being, of course,

1488
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: but I think that's actual manipulation. Gutted me as a

1489
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: human being.

1490
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can't put it in the same category.

1491
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: Did you see Bao the short movie, the short film

1492
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 1: that they were airing or I don't know, The Incredibles

1493
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: are one of them now, Bao Boo about like a

1494
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: Chinese pork bun tough watch in like a very emotional

1495
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: good way. All right, So let's go through Pixar movie.

1496
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Speaker 1: All right, So it sounds to me like Wally is

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Speaker 1: has your heart?

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Speaker 2: Well, Wally was very good, was underrated, so it's it's

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Speaker 2: probably in the conversation. Frozen I don't believe was technically Pixar.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think Frozen's Pixar. Frozen was officially Disney

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Speaker 1: and also not that good. I was a big Frozen fan.

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Speaker 1: We talked, Oh my god, ty don't say that out loud.

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Speaker 1: It go, Dan, just let it go. Oh God. All right,

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Speaker 1: So Toy Story. Toy Story was the original classic absolutely

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Speaker 1: and holds up really really well. I think Toy Story

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Speaker 1: is still is top spot for me. But I also

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Speaker 1: posit that Wally's in discussion finding Nemo was outstanding. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget about that one. And you recently saw Coco. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've recently seen Coco like seventeen times, Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Now, as you know, we had a rather traumatic emotional

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Speaker 2: experience in our family over the course of the last year,

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Speaker 2: so I haven't really had a chance to dive into.

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Speaker 1: Coke buddy, you might need to do that one solo.

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Speaker 2: You told me that that could potentially be very very emotional,

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Speaker 2: huge trigger. So where do you come down on this? Then?

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Speaker 1: To me, it's probably Coco and Wally. Okay, and Coco

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Speaker 1: Wally Toy Story. I think you're right. What about The Incredibles?

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Speaker 1: The Incredibles the first one was really really good, the

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Speaker 1: second one was b minus okay, not that great. Didn't

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Speaker 1: really do it for me. I'm going to say because

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Speaker 1: of my affinity for Mexico and Mexican culture, the music,

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Speaker 1: and just technologically how far they've come. But this was

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. In the original Toy Story was what mid nineties? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly more of a spectacle nineteen ninety five. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm going I'm going to say Coco and

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Speaker 1: my don't sleep on it. It's Toy Story three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not bad, really good. I'm amazed they're doing a fourth.

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Speaker 1: The fourth actually looks pretty good. It looks really good.

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Speaker 1: But there was a good amount of closure in three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well we'll see right in again. Are there

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Speaker 1: any are there any Pixar movies you didn't like? I

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Speaker 1: didn't see Cars or rat tattooy, there's not much to cars.

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Speaker 1: It's fine. Wasn't into a bugs life love rat tattooing.

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Speaker 1: I thought ratatoo it was great. Inside Out was okay.

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Speaker 1: Inside Out I thought was really good. I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see Brave, and I heard Brave was very good.

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Speaker 1: Didn't see Brave. Uh, not into Finding Dory. Didn't see

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Speaker 1: Finding Dory, not into that one. Inside Out is really good.

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Speaker 1: Coco is excellence. If I'm gonna I'm gonna say this

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Speaker 1: as straightforward as I possibly can. If you haven't seen Coco,

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Speaker 1: go see Coco. Find a way to see Coco, because

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Speaker 1: they do so. Do so not in a room where

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Speaker 1: you would be embarrassed to shed tears. Because if you

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Speaker 1: are fully focused on the movie and you let it

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Speaker 1: absorb you, you were going to uh, you're going to

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Speaker 1: succumb and it's God. Is it good? Right? And I

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Speaker 1: think I'm strong. Coco and tentative Aladdin, Dark Horse for

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Speaker 1: animated might be Jungle Book okay, not bad, not bad?

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Speaker 1: Blue the Bear what yeah, not bad? Bear necessities yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 1: They disrespected a bugs life. That's right. His name is Dan,

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Speaker 1: mine is ty.

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