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Speaker 1: Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning show.

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Speaker 2: Squatters. Now, this has been a huge story of late

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Speaker 2: where people have a house they got from their mom

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Speaker 2: who passed away or whatever, and it's been empty for

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Speaker 2: a month or whatever. They go over to check on

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Speaker 2: the house and you know whatever, make sure the toilets

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Speaker 2: are flushing. There's someone living in it, right, They're like,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing here? Well, in some places they

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Speaker 2: have a right to be there, even if you own it.

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Speaker 2: They are squatters without paying you, without paying you, insanity.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: There have been stories lately here in the New York area.

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Speaker 2: There was a woman I believe in Queen's you were saying,

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Speaker 2: she went to a similar conversation, went to her mom's house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, her mother passed away. She took some time getting

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Speaker 4: herself together, went to the house to clean things up,

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Speaker 4: found people living there, asked them to leave. They told her, no,

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Speaker 4: we're not leaving, We're going to stay here. So she

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Speaker 4: changed the locks.

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Speaker 5: She got arrested.

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Speaker 2: What exactly, Yeah, because she kept them from their house

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Speaker 2: because they had squatters' rights. Go back to that our favorite,

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Speaker 2: one of our favorite musicals of all time, Danielle Rent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was about a bunch of people who really talented people. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: great voices, great voices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dancer living where they were squatting.

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Speaker 2: Living in the East Village, I guess right.

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Speaker 1: And actually one of their friends owned the property, and

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Speaker 1: so they thought like they even had more rights because.

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Speaker 2: Right, they couldn't get rid of them because they could sing. Well,

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Speaker 2: something changes everything if you're a singing squatter. So I

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Speaker 2: it's just it baffles my mind that if you go

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Speaker 2: out and you pay, you know, money for an apartment

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Speaker 2: or a house, and someone moves in. I think in

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Speaker 2: New York State, thirty days is it? Keep it?

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Speaker 6: Mind?

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Speaker 2: Worth saying what we're just reading on the surface, right,

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Speaker 2: thirty days?

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Speaker 4: It looks like so in some places they said, if

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Speaker 4: you've been in a place for ten years, then you

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Speaker 4: have a right to squat there. But then they're saying

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Speaker 4: thirty days is all it takes in New York State

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Speaker 4: to be able to squat on someone's property and just

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Speaker 4: stay there.

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Speaker 7: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So it could be wrong about this. Look, I think

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Speaker 2: you still technically own it. It's just a very very

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Speaker 2: laborious project project to get them out of there. It's

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Speaker 7: I saw a case where some squatters they were charging

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Speaker 7: other squatters to come in and move in in a

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Speaker 7: place that they didn't even own. So like there was

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Speaker 7: like a main squatter and he was charging other squatters

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Speaker 7: to live there while they were trying while the person

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Speaker 7: that actually owned the property was trying to get them out.

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Speaker 4: So these asses can become landlords property exactly crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, so it kind of makes me scared. I'm want

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Speaker 2: to get home real quick after work. No really, So okay,

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Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out where the squatter's rights came from,

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Speaker 2: and I was under the impression I could be wrong here,

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Speaker 2: maybe very clear that Let's say you're renting you were

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Speaker 2: you have a legal lease with a landlord, and you're

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Speaker 2: renting an apartment, and then you cannot for whatever reason

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Speaker 2: pay the rent and their circumstances there including pandemic or

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Speaker 2: whatever you could then I think you've been given rights

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Speaker 2: to not be pushed out so fast. But what if

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Speaker 2: you don't have at least you just move into an

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Speaker 4: Right, So this seems like something that was rooted in

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Speaker 4: the settlement of the United States could be where everybody

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Speaker 4: was coming here and just squatting on property that wasn't theirs,

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Speaker 4: and then they make these laws and say, hey, this

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Speaker 2: Now, you can't get me out now here we are.

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Speaker 2: But that was a land grab. When we're all going

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Speaker 2: west to pan for gold back in the day, you

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Speaker 2: see a land from other people.

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Speaker 4: And now it continues.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm just this is one of those stories. I just

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Speaker 2: don't get it. What's that I do know that?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's basically maintaining a property, right because I

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Speaker 5: had a vacant lot next to me to my house

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Speaker 5: and doing some research. If they haven't maintained a lot

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Speaker 5: for ten years, then you can claim ownership. But then,

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Speaker 5: like you said Elvis, it's a long laborious process. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: to do that. Yeah, if you if you own the

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Speaker 5: house or the lot, you still own it. But you

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Speaker 5: can't just call the police and have them kick them

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Speaker 5: off the property. Well, depends on what state you're in.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because in Florida now they just passed the law

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Speaker 7: now that it's illegal squatters that you can't have them

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Speaker 2: Now in the state of Florida, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: I just asked my husband, who's a real estate agents

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. So I said do you know the rules

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Speaker 1: of squatters in New Jersey? And he said no, They

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Speaker 1: change all the time and they are very intricate, so

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Speaker 1: it's tough to know the exact laws and allowances of

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Speaker 1: what landlords can do.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you, huh. Not far down the road

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Speaker 2: from our house, out in the country, there's people living

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Speaker 2: there that don't own their house really, and so we're like,

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Speaker 2: what do we call the police. We're trying to find

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Speaker 2: the owners. We can't find them. Someone passed away, then

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Speaker 2: it got passed down to someone, someone bought someone in

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Speaker 2: the family bought the house for a dollar, just you know,

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Speaker 2: change the name over to them, and yeah, can't find them.

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Speaker 2: Here's Alisha, Alicia. This happened on your street, right right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I live in Connecticut. A woman down the street

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Speaker 3: passed away and the house was vacant for months, and

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Speaker 3: when her family finally came in to sell it, there

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Speaker 3: was actually a squadron there who had moved tables and

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Speaker 3: But he had a full grown a rug in there.

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Speaker 3: He was living in there for months at the time,

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Speaker 3: and when somebody actually finally bought the house, he refused

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Speaker 3: to leave, so they changed the locks, but he broke

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Speaker 3: in through a window and they still let him stay there.

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Speaker 3: The cops let him stay there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I see, I don't I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense if it's not yours, it's not yours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why is it not that simple?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm assuming there are there are

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Speaker 2: rights group human rights groups out there that saying no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no. I mean, it's been the news a lot.

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Speaker 3: It took a lot to finally get him out. Somebody

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Speaker 3: finally bought the house and started to flip it, and

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Speaker 3: then they must have filed something to get him out officially.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he had a full living room in there,

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Speaker 3: He had stuff in the kitchen, he had food in

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Speaker 2: Wasn't there a story? I guess I think it was

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Speaker 2: here in New York there was a guy going online

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Speaker 2: are coming over the border, saying, here's here's how you

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Speaker 2: get a house. Look to these houses that they're empty,

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Speaker 1: Still, I have a question if somebody goes say, you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people get summer homes, so they

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Speaker 1: move out of their mansion because they get a summer

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Speaker 1: home down the beach and it's beautiful. So they're not

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Speaker 1: in their home for three months. Can I technically then

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Speaker 2: Really, this happened in California, Los Angeles. There's a mansion

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Speaker 2: like in bel Air that they took it over. They

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Speaker 2: took and everyone in the neighborhood knows, And of course California,

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Speaker 2: being an extremely liberal state, they're like, well, no, we

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Speaker 2: can't do anything. Oh look, uh hobby, Yeah yeah, God,

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Speaker 2: give me an a dress. I'm gonna go squat.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, I know some people who get a nice summer

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Speaker 1: home too, and their other house is not too shabby.

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Speaker 2: Lisia, thank you very much. I hope everything gets worked

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Speaker 2: out on your street.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Love you, guys, love you more so asking for a friend.

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Speaker 4: If my apartment building has been irritating me with something

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Speaker 4: and I just stopped paying rent, they can't kick me out.

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Speaker 2: There's a process they have to go through. Their eviction

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Speaker 2: process is very lengthy. Yeah, they can't just move your

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Speaker 2: stuff in a hotel. If it's a hotel, it's different.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think I think this happens with Airbnb's a

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Speaker 4: lot too. I've seen some videos of people who had

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Speaker 4: a renter then those renters just stayed and they couldn't

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Speaker 4: do anything to get them out.

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Speaker 7: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: We have someone sent a text. Is this the one

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Speaker 2: you're talking about? Yeah, they're oh listening this morning. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to court this morning for a squad that's living

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Speaker 2: in my Brooklyn property and they've taken me to court

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Speaker 2: for repairs. What so we have the holdover in one

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Speaker 2: court room this morning and then the case against them

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Speaker 2: is for repairs they're assuming because I'm not repairing my

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Speaker 5: I spoke to him. He didn't want to go on

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Speaker 5: the air. Okay, they've been there for two years, and

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Speaker 5: I asked him, well, how much have you spent in

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Speaker 2: He goes, I couldn't even calculate that at this point. Wow, Stephanie,

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Speaker 2: this is so wild. Stephanie, you work for a landlord

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Speaker 2: tenant court, so you still see all this all the time.

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Speaker 2: So you live in the state of New York. So

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Speaker 2: what's going on in the state of New York as

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Speaker 2: far as squatters.

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Speaker 6: Well, they have rights. After thirty days, the landlords or

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Speaker 6: owners have to take them be court to have them removed.

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Speaker 2: Let's just come find that. Yeah, they have Why do

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Speaker 2: they have these rights?

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Speaker 6: Where?

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Speaker 2: Where does this come from? New York state law?

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Speaker 6: Thank your congressman.

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Speaker 2: But at some point, Stephanie, I'm just kind of curious

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Speaker 2: they had to put this into law, and something caused

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Speaker 2: them to put it into law. I'm trying to wonder.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering what story there is to tell about why

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Speaker 2: squatters have rights and we can't figure that out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't figure that, but they do. They do

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Speaker 6: have rights. And it's a long process. And you know,

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Speaker 6: it goes by how long they've been in the property.

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Speaker 6: If they've been there up to a year, you have

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Speaker 6: to give them a thirty day notice. A year to

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Speaker 6: two years, it's a sixty day notice, and anything over

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Speaker 6: two years it's a ninety day notice.

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Speaker 2: O my god. All right, Stephanie, thank you, Stephanie, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much.

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Speaker 6: Nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I love you, guys, We thank you.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 2: You know what, we've been here for thirty years because

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Speaker 2: we're squatting. They've been trying to evict us for years.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you Stephanie, thank you very much. What's up? Scary?

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Speaker 8: So if I own property and you break into my house, yes,

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Speaker 8: you can be arrested for breaking and entering. Yes, so

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Speaker 8: I still own that property and squats show up, why

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Speaker 8: don't they get arrested for breaking it?

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Speaker 2: If they're well in the state of New York, if

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Speaker 2: they're there thirty days, they're they are protected more than

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Speaker 2: more so than not. So there, okay, okay, oh, here

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Speaker 2: you go. Once you use that microphone over there, you

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Speaker 2: found it. Why do squatters have rights?

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Speaker 5: It's to help urban residents find affordable housing. Well, that's

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Speaker 5: extremely affordable. What a good deal. It was a legal

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Speaker 5: right meant to allow people to settle in abandoned or

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Speaker 5: unused properties or to build homes on unclaimed land. The

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Speaker 5: intent was to prevent people and property owners from taking

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Speaker 5: law into their own hands, encouraging resolution through legal channels

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Speaker 5: instead of potential physical confrontations.

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Speaker 4: So initially it did start through colonialism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, homestead Act. Land is claimed. I own it.

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Speaker 1: It's land is my land.

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Speaker 2: It's not your land. From California to New York Islands,

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Speaker 2: from the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters. This

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Speaker 2: land's made for you and me. Yes, it is apparently

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Speaker 2: you have a point. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, there are abandoned buildings all over

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Speaker 4: the place. So if I go and find a mall

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Speaker 4: and I just sit there for thirty days, then that

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Speaker 4: mall is mine.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe a residential thing,

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Speaker 2: maybe a mall thing. I don't know. You can live

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Speaker 2: there at Gandhi. You can live there at the old

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Speaker 2: anti end stand. This is Gandhi Square mall. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: when Centata, Texas Anna Delvey, didn't she squant?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think she did.

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Speaker 5: This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I know, We're just trying to figure it out. It's

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Speaker 5: I guess the lesson is every twenty nine days, check

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Speaker 5: on your property.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you prove? How do you prove along

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Speaker 2: they've been there? How you got to prove that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know if someone I'm not advocating for this,

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Speaker 4: but if someone hired other people to extract those people

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Speaker 2: I've heard how they do this, Okay. How you send

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Speaker 2: someone to your house and have them remove the heating system,

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Speaker 2: the unfinishing system, make sure there's no electricity going to

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Speaker 2: the front door of the back door. Okay, a lot

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Speaker 2: of money. It does cost a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking more like, hire some big people to

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Speaker 4: just yank am out.

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Speaker 2: Of the house. How Gandhi style. Now you're gone, goodbye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's economical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but then they're going to say something. You know,

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Speaker 1: they got hurt and harassment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get taken a jam.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, insanity.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not saying I just don't know anymore.

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Speaker 4: This is the first time I've been thankful to have

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Speaker 4: no property.

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Speaker 2: Thank God, I have no property. We got to hurry

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Speaker 2: if I gotta get a home.