1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, I know you 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: all have heard for sure about what's going on in 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Georgia and the Fannie Willis case, and everybody thought, like, 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: who's going to put this person back into office? But 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: turns out they had their primary this past week, and 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: what do you know, she overwhelmingly wins the Democrat primary. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: But the funny thing about it is no one really 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: expects a Republican to run in this race. So historically, 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: when you win the primary for this position in Fulton County, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: you just automatically become the district attorney. However, in this case, 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: a Republican did run and she did win. So now 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Fannie has a little bit of competition and I want 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: to bring her in. Her name is Courtney Kramer. She 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: is the Republican District attorney nominee in Fulton County, Georgia, 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: and she will be taking on Fannie Willis this fall. 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: So exciting. Courtney, thanks for. 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Joining me, Thanks so much for having me. 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so. I think it's funny because I read 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: this USA Today article, which of course was not going 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: to be like incredibly friendly, but it's like she has 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: to run, she has no chance. But she has to run. 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: But then the fascinating part to me is like, in 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: more than half a century, a Republican hasn't even run, 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: So why are they saying that there's no chance when 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: Georgia seems to be getting a little sick of this 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: I completely agree, and that's one of the reasons I 28 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: decided to step up and put my name on the ballot, 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: and you know, on this past primary, but especially in November. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: It's also astounding to me that we haven't had a 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Republican qualify in decades. And I'm going to venture to 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: say I'm probably one of the younger. 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: People to qualify for DA. 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: I'm thirty years old, and I'm a female, but I'm 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: born and raised in Fulton County. 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: And over the. 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: Last couple of years, especially you know, just the given 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: the just the climate, the crime rate, just Fulton County 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: in general, well, I started to pay more and more 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: attention about what was going on in the DA's office, 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 3: and so I it was kind of the perfect race 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 3: at the perfect time. And I'm so sick of being 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: told who our next DA is going to be. As 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: many other citizens and voters in Fulton County also are 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: you know, like you said, we've just kind of been 46 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: told come November, it's just one name on the ballot 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: and you can write whoever else and that you want to, 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: But that's not really how our electoral process is supposed 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: to ever work. We have to have discourse, we have 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: to have diversity of thought. And I think that this is, 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: like I said, the perfect race of the perfect time, 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: and I think Pulton County really needed a voice, especially 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: given just the mishappenings that are going on in the 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: current DA's office right now. 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, this stuff that we've heard about Fannie 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Willis is just crazy. And then that then her lover 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: shows up at her party, and I mean, she has 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: this celebration because she won the primary, and then that 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: guy shows up and everybody's like, what are you doing? 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: How can like it's just right in front of your face. 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and this is the woman who ran saying 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: she was going to be really have all the moral 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: values and not ever have. I mean, that's the bizarre 64 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: thing to have to come out and say I will 65 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: never have an affair with someone in my office, and 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: then she does, and that whole thing is just banana's 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: But you brought up something you said, the crime rate 68 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: is out of control. Tell us what's going on in 69 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Fulton County because we remember there were a lot of 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: complaints about what was happening in the Atlanta area and 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: all you know, the little girl that was shot a 72 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: few years ago in a drive by shooting. What is 73 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: going on there? And why do they keep putting people 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: in these positions who clearly don't care about rule of law. 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: This is law fair. They're going after someone instead of 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: going after bad guys, they're going after political opponents. 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Well correct toitor, And you know to go with that 78 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: is that you know write I believe you know, before 79 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: she was running for office, during her campaigns run for DA, 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: she kept promising, you know, the people of Fulton County. 81 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: She was going to get Trump. 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's even becoming a conflict now she you know, 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: she's conflicted out to an extent. It's going to the 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: court of appeal. She can't even beford on that case. 85 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: But how do people feel about that when they hear that, Like, 86 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I really do want I think that most 87 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: people in the country wonder that exact thing, because she 88 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: ran on that. We see that this woman in New 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: York Letitia James ran on that we've got all of 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: these people who are running for office on the idea 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: that they will create a crime and match Trump to it. 92 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: How do people how are people interpreting that now a 93 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: few years later, after they've seen what these trials are like, 94 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: how do they feel about that comment? 95 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I try to stay not not away 96 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: from it, just because and I've said it before on 97 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: many other news stations in USA. 98 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: Today reported on it. 99 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: I accuse myself, so my campaign is not about getting 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: in office. 101 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: And dismissing the case. I wouldn't even touch the case. 102 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: You know. 103 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: That's because you interned for the Trump White House just 104 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: I did. 105 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: Clear I didn't, and I was a litigation consultant on 106 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty election case two as well. And that's 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: not you know, people try to act like it's some 108 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: big surprise that I've done that. That's very public, it's 109 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: very out there. I'm not scared to say that that's 110 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: what I did. I zealously advocated for my client, and 111 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: at the time that was President Trump, and I was 112 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: happy in all aspects I did to work on on 113 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: behalf of the president, especially if foreign president it's an 114 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: honor to do that going forward, I think though, you've 115 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: got to take away the political aspect out of the 116 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: DA's office. 117 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: That's not happening right now. 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: You have during the during the course of the special 119 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: grand jury that was convening, you know, there was about 120 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand dollars that Fannie will Is spent for 121 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: you know, her special prosecutor, her lover, Nathan Wade. And 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: that seven hundred thousand dollars could have easily been spent 123 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: on the four thousand untested rape kits we have right 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: now in Bolton County. It could be a little higher, 125 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: a little lower, but those those stats were what it 126 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: was during that during this time last year, regardless, that's 127 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: an astonishing number. 128 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: And those people are out on the streets. So those 129 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: people are. 130 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: Going into other counties committing crimes, many rapes on you know, 131 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: you know, your friends, your loved ones, people, people are 132 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: affected by not just you know, one DA, but whatever 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: happened in Fulton County, it sends to all these other 134 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: metro Atlanta counties. And she's focusing right now. She in 135 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: her statement, she's saying she's prosecuting crimes. But you can 136 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: just see it that she that she's focused on why 137 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: Sel and she's focused on Trump, and she's focused on, 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: you know, evading the law. She's consistently said she's not 139 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: going to comply with Jim Jordan's congressional investigation. 140 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: You have whistleblowers. You had one today. I think the 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: hearing is still going on here. 142 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: In Georgia, there was a whistleblower and they had a 143 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: Senate hearing about it. How this whistleblower told her higher 144 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: ups in the DA's office that federal I guess it 145 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: was federal grant money, but some grant money that they 146 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: were receiving, that someone higher up than her wanted to 147 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: spend it. Someone higher up in this whistleblower was going 148 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: to spend it on computers, trips, and swag for the office, 149 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: which is which is not allowed. And she decided to 150 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: let Fanni Willis know that that was what the money 151 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: was played being used for in Lo and Behold. 152 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: A couple months later or so, she was fired from 153 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: the office. 154 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: She worked in Paul Howard's office and continued through Fannie 155 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: Willis's administration. Her name is Amanda and she got fired 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: for basically trying to protect the office and make sure 157 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: they weren't going to do anything illegal. How is that, 158 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, doing your job as a DA, it's not 159 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: protecting anyone. 160 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: You're not protecting your citizens. They're not protecting your staff either. 161 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 162 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, what is happening with protecting citizens? 163 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Because right now we're seeing some crazy things coming out 164 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: of Illinois. I think they're calling now they've changed the 165 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: name of offenders to justice impacted individuals. And we see 166 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: this happening across the country. And it's something that we've 167 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: talked about a lot on this program, is that we 168 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: need to start thinking about prosecutors, about das, about attorneys 169 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: general and those positions. We haven't taken them seriously in 170 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: the past. I believe in dem crowds have moved in 171 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: and they are soft on crime. Now we are we 172 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: are trying to coddle these criminals and we don't want 173 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: to use the word criminal or offender. We're changing the name. 174 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: Victims have got to be fed up with this is 175 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: are you seeing similar soft on crime policies out of 176 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Fannie Willis's office? 177 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? And you can also just turn to 178 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: what's going on in the jail. You know, we should 179 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: never have jail desks like we had going on in 180 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: Fulton County. What are we doing the issues that we have, 181 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: We have you know, potential defendant defendants in there that 182 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: are just sitting in there waiting for a trial date. 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: You know, they they there are victims out there that 184 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: are waiting for these you know, offenders to uh go 185 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: to trial. But you also have the family members of 186 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: these defendants and of these offenders. 187 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: You know, they essentially are victims too. 188 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you know, everybody all 189 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: around here deserves justice, and that's not happening. You know, 190 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: she's focused on herself, her personal gain, climbing the political ladder. 191 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: She's not focused on making sure our streets are safe, 192 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: not making sure you know that the money in her 193 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: office is being allocated where it's supposed to be. She's 194 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: not hiring new adas and no one's really wanting to 195 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: go work for her office right now. 196 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: That's a problem. And the people she's hiring. You have 197 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: to hire competent people. You have to hire. 198 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Yes, she won this election, which blows my mind that 199 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: she won in big numbers. She won this Democrat election 200 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: where they they she did have a primary challenge. It 201 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: wasn't like this was just a give me. But people 202 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: still must believe in her after all of this. Why 203 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: do people keep going back to someone who's been openly 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: blasted for corruption. I mean, she was literally coming out 205 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: out here saying, like you said, I'm going to take 206 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: down Donald Trump, and then the tables kind of turned 207 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: on her, and suddenly it was like, you are the 208 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: corrupt one. You're the one taking funds from the public. 209 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: She openly admitted to taking campaign funds and using them 210 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: for personal use, and yet she's got no investigation against her. 211 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: And even though that's that in and of itself is 212 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: breaking the law, she can now run to be the law. 213 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes no sense to me. 214 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 3: Well, I think that what we've seen to and what 215 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: you're saying that you know, she's never been told no. 216 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: You know, people in these positions have never been told no, 217 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: They've never had really any competition or someone someone run 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: against them. They feel almost like they deserve that position. 219 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: And then once they get in that position, they feel 220 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: like they can do whatever they want and whatever they 221 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: feel is just. But that's not serving the people of 222 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: Fulton County in any way. The fact that Fulton County 223 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: is now a household name across the country and across 224 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: the world is just crazy to be It shouldn't it 225 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: should never be like that. You don't hear about DA's 226 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: like this and other counties in Georgia. You only hear 227 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: about it right now because she's doing. What she's doing 228 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: is you know, arguably unethical. She's lying to her constituents 229 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 3: and she's arguably and there could be a case for 230 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: you know, stealing from taxpayer, you know, stealing taxpayer money. 231 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: She goes to these Border Commissioner meetings and she asks 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: for more money, but no, there's no transparency or accountability 233 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: to where that money is going to, you know, as 234 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: she testified on the stand, and you know, so rudely 235 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: testified and just was very inappropriate, I think in her 236 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: actions on the witness stand, especially to Judge McAfee, the 237 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: answer of the lawyers calling the defense lawyer liars, that's 238 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: ridiculous to me, And the behavior to show she thinks 239 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: she's above the law, she thinks she's above anyone calling 240 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: her out for what she's doing, and that is not 241 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: what your DA is supposed to be. I think that 242 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: you're going to start to see a shift. You are 243 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: starting to see a shift in Bolton County. You know, 244 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: everyone's like, how are you going to win? It's primarily Democrats. Yes, 245 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 3: I know, but the problem is here is that Democrat 246 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: days we have seen the last twelve fifteen years have 247 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: not served Bulon County. They have served themselves. And I 248 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: think that now it's time completely time for a change. 249 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: You can't do that anymore. I have not campaigned once 250 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: on the fact that I'm going to go after Biden 251 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: or I'm going to go after whoever it might be 252 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: for political reasons. No, I want to keep our streets safe. 253 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: I want to keep our community safe. I want to 254 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: put actual criminals away for actual crimes they commit. And 255 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: that is what you're supposed to be doing, you know, I. 256 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Think, So how do you get that word out? Though? 257 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Georgia and Michigan are similar in 258 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: the fact that the majority of Georgia is a red 259 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: state and then you end up in these highly populous centers, 260 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: and these the population centers of the state they vote 261 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: Democrat and you, I mean, you're talking about running for 262 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: a very specific position that people don't like they want this. 263 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't believe that people want the soft on crime das, 264 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: but I believe that the das who are in there, 265 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: and that the people in power have convinced folks that 266 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: these are the people that are going to protect you. 267 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: When it's a total lie. How do you get the 268 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: information out? Because we have found this in Michigan that 269 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: it is very challenging to go to areas like Detroit 270 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: and Flint and have them those folks see you in 271 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: a light as like, oh yeah, maybe this person will 272 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: advocate for me. Whereas now I think if I were 273 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: to go there, and you know, maybe I'm being naive. 274 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: And maybe this is why we see Trump heading to 275 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: places like the and we see Trump going to the 276 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: bodega in Manhattan, and you know, maybe that's why we 277 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: see a change in people. Is that Republicans have historically 278 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: been like, Okay, here's the lines, this is where I 279 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: can go, and this is where I won't be accepted. 280 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: Is it just a matter of getting out into those areas. 281 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: I think that's definitely a factor in this race. And 282 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: Fulton County is seventy two miles long from north to south, 283 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: which is huge The race itself is over a million people. 284 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: It's bigger than any congressional district I believe in the country. 285 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: It's massive. It's a ton of people. 286 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to have to go from North full into 287 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: South Fulton to you know, east to West, all in Atlanta, 288 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: all in Buckhead, all in Midtown, and it's going to 289 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: be just getting out there, meeting those constituents, meeting those 290 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: voters and talking to them one on one. I have 291 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: no issue going down there. I'm from North Atlanta, I'm 292 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: from ALFARETD. I'm born and raised here, But that does 293 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: not mean that I can't go into those communities. I 294 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: went to law school at Emory, I've spent I used 295 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: to live in Midtown, you know, but there's I don't 296 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: live down there anymore because it's unsafe. But to get 297 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: your word out there, it's going to it's going to 298 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: cost a lot of money. 299 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: Fundraising is going to be a big aspect of this race. 300 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: And if anyone does want to donate, they can go 301 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: to Corneycramer dot com to do so. But it's going 302 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: to be going out there, reaching out to communities, going 303 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: to churches, going to different organizations and letting them know 304 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: that there is an alternative. The media has consistently up 305 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: to this point now just pinned me as a Trump lawyer. 306 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: And you know a lot of people don't like that, 307 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: and I understand that, but that's not what I'm campaigning on. 308 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: And the second I get out there and I actually 309 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: meet and. 310 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: Talk to these people, they'll see that. 311 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: They'll actually see what I'm trying to, you know, trying 312 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: to campaign on, and that's, you know, seeking justice and seeking. 313 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: To restore integrity back into this office. 314 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 315 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. Do a lot of people say, though, oh, 316 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: you're just seeing an opportunity here, here's somebody who became 317 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: Fannie Willis, became really famous for going after Trump. Here 318 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: you are coming into a district that is a andst Trump. 319 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: You have this big hullabaloo going on with this court case, 320 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: and I'm sure people are saying, hey, you're just trying 321 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: to get in there and get the attention. 322 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: What I would say to them is go run for office. 323 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's not it's not a luxurious life to 324 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: can't always. 325 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: The people who have never run for office who say 326 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: you're doing it for fame and fortune. 327 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that anyone wants to run for 328 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: office and thinks they're going to be famous. 329 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's not going to be an easy road 330 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: at all. 331 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: You put your life on hold on us, you open 332 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: yourself up to a massive scrutiny from all over the place, 333 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: from all over the country. You have to have tough skin, 334 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: and I think it takes a public servant's heart to 335 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: actually do this, especially my race, going into it knowing 336 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: that I am up against, you know, the biggest opponent 337 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: in the country, and this will be one of the 338 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: biggest races. That is one of the biggest races in 339 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: the country right now. It's an uphill battles, uphill climb. 340 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: It's going to be extremely hard. 341 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: I don't think that if I was trying to see 342 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: fame or fortune or be an opportunist, that I would 343 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: run for this position. You know, go run for something else. 344 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: I have no idea what it is, because here's the 345 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: here's the thing I'm born to raise here. I love 346 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: full In County. I want everyone else to love full 347 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: In County the way I do. The only way to 348 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: do that is to make it safe again. You know, 349 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: that's the that is the you know, black and white 350 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: answer to it. And I kind of really gotten so 351 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: much push back on, like on people saying I'm trying 352 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: to be, you know, an opportunist. 353 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure it will come. 354 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: I kind of get more people saying, oh, she's you know, 355 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: a blonde girl. She's never she's never gonna win, which 356 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: is absurd to me because I don't think your looks 357 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: qualify you, or don't qualify you from from running for office, 358 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: especially running for you know, an office that you're passionate about. 359 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, going forward, people will 360 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: start to see that. 361 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: And like I said, it's going to just be getting 362 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: out there, meeting people and sending my message to everybody 363 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: in the community. 364 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: And I think people will really see my true colors. 365 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 3: And every day that unfolds, you see Fannie Willis's true colors, 366 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: and they are not so pretty well. 367 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: She's come out and attacked you and said you don't 368 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: have enough experience, you're not old enough, you can't do this. 369 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: You talked about being a young person going out there 370 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: and doing this, and obviously that is something that voters 371 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: struggle with. But what do you say when you talk? 372 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not trying to get you to 373 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: come out here and bash Fannie Willis. We've all seen it. 374 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: We've all seen what she's done with the money, We've 375 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: all seen what she's done with her personal life. We 376 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: all know that she's come out and openly said her 377 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: goal is to get Trump. And this is not something 378 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: that you want people running for office to, like I said, 379 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: go after their political opponent. This is insane. However, when 380 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: she comes after you and says you have no experience, 381 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: how do you counteract that, especially in communities that have 382 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: been strong Fannie Willis supporters. 383 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: So one of the main roles of the DA's office 384 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: really and as the DA and people don't really understand this, 385 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: I don't think, is that you manage the office, you 386 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: have to know who to hire you have. You have 387 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: to hire people with prosecutorial experience. You know, she has 388 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: a couple of prosecution in her office that have that 389 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: that had never tried cases before, but she you don't 390 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: hear anyone's talking about them. You know, with the experience 391 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: thing it is knowing how to manage your office appropriately, 392 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: know how to spend your resources wisely and spend them 393 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: and spend them appropriately. 394 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 2: That hasn't happened. 395 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: And like I said, with the experience thing, it's knowing 396 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: how to manage people and knowing who to hire and 397 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: hiring people with experience. You're supposed to be able to 398 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: surround you have to surround yourself with people who are educated, 399 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: who have experience, and that's exactly what I what I 400 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: will do. I have a handful of people who I 401 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: know that I would immediately tap to come join me 402 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 3: in that office day one. Uh, that would absolutely do 403 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: this job willingly and with a servant's heart. And I 404 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: think that that's what people don't necessarily understand. Fannie keeps 405 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: going after me just about she doesn't have you know, 406 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: criminal you know, prostitution experience, da da da dah okay. 407 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: And I've never said I never I never said I did, 408 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: and that's that's not a lie. But what I what 409 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: I do have is experience in knowing how to manage 410 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: and lead people and how to ethically conduct myself in 411 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 3: a professional setting. 412 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it. I mean, it's interesting to 413 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: watch how people will go after someone. But I mean 414 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: in the state of Michigan, I look at just the 415 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and I think the majority of the folks 416 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: on our Supreme Court have never sat on a bench 417 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: before in their life, and people don't ask those questions. 418 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I think that this is one of those positions that 419 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: that folks run for, and I don't know that there 420 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: is a lot of research done, so I would just 421 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: say that from my experience, I think the Democrats have 422 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: a strong ground game, and they have multiple people. It's 423 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: not just their candidate who's out there. They have a 424 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: strong ground game. They're getting the information out to people 425 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: in multiple different ways. And I just think that Republicans 426 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: need to up their game a little bit in these 427 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: areas where there's been this indoctrination of you know, you 428 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: have to hate Republicans and one of the only people 429 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: that are gonna help you stay with us. Well, you 430 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: just have to tell the truth on them. But you 431 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: need people to actually be telling the truth on them. So, 432 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: so tell us a little bit about your website. I 433 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: know you you mentioned it earlier. Plug it one more time. 434 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: Let people know where they can find you. 435 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: So Courtney Kramer dot com is my donation link, Courtneykramer 436 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: dot org. We're still getting them the two connected. Courtneykramer 437 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: dot org is my actual website, right now you can 438 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: go there. You can uh see my platform, see what 439 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 3: I'm running on. You can go sign up for our emails. 440 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: You can go sign up to be a doorknocker, get 441 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: a yard sign, uh send me a suggestion. 442 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: You can go on. 443 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: There also and see a bunch of the news articles 444 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: that have been published that I've been in or just 445 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 3: about my race in general. And I think if you 446 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: you know, if people go to that, that they would 447 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: see a lot more information than what they're hearing from 448 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, the left wing media. 449 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: Well good, Thank you so much. Hey, we appreci the 450 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: fact that you're willing to go out there and do this. 451 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think this has to be the 452 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: next stage for Republicans stepping into races that are uncomfortable. 453 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: We cannot allow race to go more than half a 454 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: century without a Republican even entering in. So if you 455 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: can help Courtney Kramer, go out there and go to 456 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: our website and help her. If you are in Fulton County, 457 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: you know who to vote for. Courtney. 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