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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five and today we will talk a little football.

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy tells the Saints or do the Saints tell him, No, Mike,

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking about this. I feel bad for

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Speaker 1: does not like him. They don't even know him, but

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Speaker 1: the conversation about firing him immediately, Jerry, we got to

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Speaker 1: move on, Steven, tell your dad is just going to

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Speaker 1: But this is a situation. It's not often like Liam

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Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Hello John for the mail bag.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us agree the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: is a disaster and irrelevant. I remember not long ago

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Speaker 1: and while the NBA played around with the format for

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game, many outsiders came with very interesting

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Speaker 1: proposals for how the game could become competitive and interesting

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Speaker 1: for the players in the NFL. I haven't seen any

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Speaker 1: sort of interest for the league to keep trying radical

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Speaker 1: stuff other than mini games around the actual game or

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Speaker 1: too many outside voices proposing interesting alternatives. Since this is

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Speaker 1: not going away, I doubt the NFL would want to

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Speaker 1: sunset this asset. I don't think I've ever heard that

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Speaker 1: saying before sunset this asset, but I kind of like it.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think the change will come from? I

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Speaker 1: think the hard part is in basketball. I saw someone

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Speaker 1: it was on Instagram put the list of the people

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Speaker 1: in the Dunk Contest. I had never heard of any

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Speaker 1: of them, and it's like, we just need to cancel

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Speaker 1: the dunk contest. Like part of the Dunk Contest was

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Speaker 1: like really famous people used to participate, some of the

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Speaker 1: best players in the league. It was a big deal.

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Speaker 1: It's not anymore so. It's okay, just like, just cancel

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Speaker 1: it now. The problem is these television networks spend a

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Speaker 1: lot of money for these properties and would like something

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Speaker 1: to broadcast on a Saturday night or, in the football situation,

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. Right, that's usually when the Pro Bowl was.

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Speaker 1: In basketball, it's simply effort, Like, guys just don't try

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Speaker 1: at all anymore. But you can play a pickup basketball

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Speaker 1: game without getting injured, right. They don't need to play

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Speaker 1: like it's the NBA Finals. They just need to give

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Speaker 1: a little effort, and it's pretty entertaining. I've watched a

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Speaker 1: lot of NBA All Star games in my day that weren't,

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Speaker 1: you know, playoff level intensity, but it was still a

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Speaker 1: fun watch. Football, you're either all in or all out

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Speaker 1: because you can't. Once they got to the point where

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Speaker 1: it's like this is a joke. No one wants to

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Speaker 1: get injured, no one wants to get tackled, and do

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Speaker 1: you blame them? You can't half assed football. It's why

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Speaker 1: tanking doesn't really exist. It's why bad teams constantly beat

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Speaker 1: good teams down the stretch. It's why on any given week,

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Speaker 1: especially the last couple weeks of the season, when teams

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Speaker 1: should just be playing for draft status they win because

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Speaker 1: you can't dip your foot in the water. You basically

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Speaker 1: got to jump into the deep end when you play

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Speaker 1: the sport. And it's the only sport of all the

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Speaker 1: major sports where you can't really play a pickup football game, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, in college or the pros, you're either playing

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Speaker 1: football or you're not. Like I could do a pickup

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Speaker 1: basketball game, I can do a simulated at bat. I

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Speaker 1: can't run O line D line if they're not wearing pats.

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Speaker 1: I can't run a real football practice and call it

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Speaker 1: football if they're not wearing pats. And I think the

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Speaker 1: padded days are done and that that's created. I think

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Speaker 1: just I don't blame players, right if I am a

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Speaker 1: guy and I make twenty million dollars a year and

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Speaker 1: I like I'm playing pretty well, but if I were

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Speaker 1: to get injured, I'd get cut, Like, I'm not risking

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Speaker 1: that about of money for Pro Bowl, And you could

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Speaker 1: argue they were always making a lot of money. I

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Speaker 1: just think the mindset has shifted, and there's so much

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Speaker 1: money on the line. I think that just had a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge impact. What genetically modified fuckery is This sickness. I

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Speaker 1: know you went through it. I've been on my deathbed

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Speaker 1: week prior, crazy awful sickness suggestions. I just it was awful.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the flu often, but when you get

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Speaker 1: it like that, man, that was awful. Seeing all the

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Speaker 1: international locations good luck Buddy announced for the Games next

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Speaker 1: year in Europe. Do you think the NFL will ever

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Speaker 1: bring a game to Australia or are we too far away?

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Speaker 1: There is a massive support for the NFL here and

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Speaker 1: Ozzie's will get around any sporting event. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it could happen. I think I've said this before. I

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Speaker 1: So I just think it's a long way to go,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean my dad, I went to New

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Speaker 1: and they used to go there and they met this

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Speaker 1: I just remember the flight was really really long. And

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Speaker 1: this back in the day. All I had was like

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Speaker 1: a CD player with like two CDs. So it's probably

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Speaker 1: an easier travel now if you're sitting on the plane,

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Speaker 1: but it's a long These NFL teams do not want

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Speaker 1: to go that long. Name for your fans the Coffins.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one. The podcast is called three and Out,

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Speaker 1: so listeners would be called the fourth Downers. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: kind of funny the coffers. Filling the coffers means to

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Speaker 1: add funds or a resource. Your fans are just your

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Speaker 1: Any explanation why the Ravens again deviated from the offensive

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Speaker 1: philosophy and the playoffs from what brought them so much

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Speaker 1: success in the regular season. Well, they clearly like their

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator because I just saw a headline he got

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Speaker 1: a contract extension. Now, I wasn't thinking he was gonna

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Speaker 1: get fired, but he had a rough little stretch back

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Speaker 1: to back playoffs. I just think he gets I think

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Speaker 1: he gets his own way, Like this is not about

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Speaker 1: style points. No one has any clue how many yards

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes just threw for. If you put a gun

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Speaker 1: to my head right now, I could probably get within

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Speaker 1: twenty yards, one hundred and ninety yards, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten yards. No one cares. Just like the week before

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Speaker 1: when the Bills beat the Ravens, no one cared that

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Speaker 1: Josh didn't throw. He played winning. It's about winning the game.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing like style points matter in the

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Speaker 1: that matters to coaches and players. That's how you get

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Speaker 1: paid as a player. Nothing matters in the playoffs. Just

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Speaker 1: have more points to the other team when the dust settles.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as style points in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So I don't really know what to say. Beside, I

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Speaker 1: ball rams Fan. I don't know if I've ever been

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Speaker 1: thiss gutted after a loss, mainly because of the immense

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Speaker 1: by the center leading to carter act of Stafford out

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Speaker 1: of a legacy securing second Super Bowl. On top of that,

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Speaker 1: to see McVeigh crying after the game and the utter

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Speaker 1: devastation on the players' faces, it has me wondering how

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Speaker 1: these players and coaches who are ultra competitive deal with

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Speaker 1: love to hear your thoughts. Uh, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: it depends as a coach or a player, where you're

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640
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Speaker 1: make it to the NFL, let's say as a player,

641
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: let's say I'm Matt Stafford, right, I think you have

642
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: a pretty good appreciation for winning and losing, Given that

643
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: you lost a lot with the Lions. Once you win

644
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and accomplish the biggest goal, that probably

645
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: motivates you to try to do it again. And then

646
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: you're in this situation like you've played in the playoffs

647
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: enough now you realize what's on the line, and then

648
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: you complete that pass. We're all human beings. It can't

649
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: help it cross your mind. I even saw Sean McVay,

650
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: there was not any thought in his mind that they

651
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: weren't going to win that game on that final drive

652
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: and then the level of devastation. So I just think

653
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: that I don't want to say, guys, get numb to it,

654
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: because losing sucks and winning is fucking incredible in any

655
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: walk of life. But for most of us, winning and

656
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: losing isn't like as finite on a weekly basis, Like

657
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: it's just the game ends, you know, and in football,

658
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: each playoff game is a game seven. So I just

659
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: think it's a complete kick in the nuts and you're

660
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: just you're just shell shocked. But like any human being,

661
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: after a couple of days, like you eventually got to

662
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: pick yourself back up, like you said, go on vacation.

663
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: If you're a coach, they usually get a couple weeks off,

664
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: go on vacation, hang out with your family, get back

665
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: to just getting a sweat in, have some beers, hang

666
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: out with some people. I don't think it's that much

667
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: different than normal human beings. Right. The difference is they're

668
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: used to losing. Like it's you have a great season

669
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you lose five times, right, you go

670
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: twelve and five. Like the Rams had a really good season,

671
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: they went ten. They lost seven games each regular season

672
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: lot the playoffs is worse because there is no next week.

673
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: But you see the locker rooms after wins in the

674
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: regular season, right, how happy they are. Dan Campbell's gone

675
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: viral because of his locker room celebrations. Well, losses are

676
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: the same. It's why you know why Andy's such a

677
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: good coach, because he's not a big high low guy.

678
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Like you watch some of his post game celebrations. They're

679
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: not like ye I watched his postgame celebration for the

680
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs when they beat the Bills. He's like, uh, everybody, Uh,

681
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: meeting tomorrow two o'clock. If you've notice the teammate's not

682
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: in here, make sure you tell them again. Meeting two o'clock,

683
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, let's let's say a prayer and enjoy

684
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: the night. You know, it's like it's it's not you know,

685
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: Sean is very emotional, which I am too. I have

686
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: much more in common with a personality with Sean than

687
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: coach Reid in terms of high and low. So if

688
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: you're a high and low guy, it's it's really really hard,

689
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: you know. I think if you're Pooka Nakua, it sucks

690
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: to lose. But how could you not think, like, well,

691
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play in this league for right or wrong.

692
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, an injury could end your career, but you're

693
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: just young. You're in your second year, Like, I'm playing

694
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: this league for another ten years. I'm gonna be back.

695
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily true. I also think that's why it's

696
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: so captivating, right, it's so captivating. It's why everyone was

697
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: on the edge of their seat and the Bill's chiefs

698
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: gam because you knew what was on the line, and

699
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: you watch Josh Allen's face in these press it really

700
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: really hurts. But I bet if you were I would

701
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: assume Josh Allen's playing in at and T Pebble Beach

702
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: this weekend, or maybe they are they even doing that anymore?

703
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't even have celebrities anymore. Could be wrong

704
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: on that, So maybe he's just who knows hanging out

705
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: with his fiance has calmed down a little bit now,

706
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: But like you said, there are things that I'm sure

707
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: come into his mind throughout the offseason. And then I

708
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: also think you use it to your motivation. Right, there's

709
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: only gonna be one team and group of players and coaches.

710
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna be really happy. Every other team is really devastated,

711
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: and the teams every other team beside the Eagles are

712
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and obviously one of those teams would be included.

713
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: This is like, is it really that devastating when the

714
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: Giant season ends? Like half the players probably checked out, right,

715
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: But if you're the Packers and you lose in the

716
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: first round, like that's it's pretty cutting. If you're the

717
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Commanders and you're just like you start thinking super and

718
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you lose. So I think you

719
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: just you don't get numb to it. I never did,

720
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Like I always was like like the the ebbs and

721
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: flows of winning and losing. But I think for players

722
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: you just get so used to it. Coaches get kind

723
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: of numb to it. It's like, how do coaches handle injuries?

724
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: Like to handle it. It's like your best players just

725
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: laying there. They're like next man in. It's just part

726
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: of the business. You just you know, to be successful,

727
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: you want to be on more wins than losses. High

728
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: school coach from Hawaii and looking for some insight, I'm

729
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: currently making the jump from OC to head coach. What

730
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: are some things you've seen in college in the NFL

731
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: that have been successful or unsuccessful when making the same

732
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: coordinator to head coach jump. I think two keys here.

733
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: One is you have to stay true to yourself. I

734
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: think be authentically you, so don't try to be Let's

735
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: say the guy replacing was your mentor and he did

736
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: things a certain way, and if you're gonna do them different,

737
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: do them different. Do the things that you do because

738
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: you want to do them. That is very very important.

739
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: I also think there is a separation, like when you're

740
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: a coordinator, it's different than being the head coach. When

741
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: you're the head coach, like there are some things like

742
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to balance like you're the boss, so

743
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: from your coaching staff and your players, Like there has

744
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: to be some sort of authoritarian figure of like the

745
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 1: buck ends with you. You know, if something is not right,

746
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: it's on you to fix it, and it's on you

747
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: to hold everyone accountable. I'm not saying like you need

748
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: to intimidate people, but there is like and you do

749
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: it through your actions, not you don't have to be

750
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: super big or you know, some raising asshole, but like, hey,

751
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: this is this is what my expectations are and anything

752
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: else won't be accepted. That's with your coaching staff and

753
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: with your players. So to me, community, you're gonna have

754
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: to communicate probably five times better than you used to

755
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: because now you're talking to everybody, and that's with your

756
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: coaches as well. But I would say, don't be fake.

757
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Don't try to act like you know, a coach you

758
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: watched on Hard Knocks or you watch you know, act

759
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: like Saban because you think that's Saban, acts like he's

760
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: saving because that's Saban. I saw a clip the other

761
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: day he said, like when he was at Michigan State,

762
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: he was getting so frustrated because all the reporters and

763
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: everyone that covered the program just said he was the

764
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: biggest dick of all time and everyone just said he's

765
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: like miserable to be around. And he goes to Miss Terry,

766
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: his wife, and goes like, this is crazy. Everyone thinks

767
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm just the most miserable human being alive. And Terry

768
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: looks back at him and basically goes, have you looked

769
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: at pictures of yourself? Have you watched the way you

770
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: conduct yourself during press conferences? Why would they think anything else?

771
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: And Nick said it like infuriated him, and then like

772
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: later that night or the next day, he realized she

773
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: was right, and he realized there's a balance, like he started,

774
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, trying to communicate better, which is it's different

775
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: high school, but like people that cover the team is

776
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: his coaching staff, So you just you got to be

777
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: very cognizant of like everyone's looking at you even in

778
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: high school, like all your players and you know, for

779
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: in high school, their parents. So it's a lot of pressure,

780
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: like you're gonna have bad days you kind of I

781
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: don't want to say fake it and not show it,

782
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: but the way you, you know, your mannerisms, that goes

783
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: for anyone that's a boss, Like if you're in a

784
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: miserable mood, like it impacts everybody. When you're a coordinators,

785
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: like whatever I would say, the two coaches that I

786
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: was around a lot, they just acted like they normally act.

787
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean Coach Hill just acted like Coach Hill at

788
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Presdent State. I mean just he was just himself and

789
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: Andy they were very just comfortable in their own skin. Now,

790
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: both of them by the time I got around, and

791
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: had been doing it for a long time. But I

792
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: would say that just just be be yourself. Given your

793
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: history cal Pauly Fresas State in Philadelphia and football related roles,

794
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: have you ever had an awkward or uncomfortable in person

795
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: run ins with people who currently work for college football

796
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: or NFL teams because of your takes or opinions as

797
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: a podcaster and media personality. If so, have you dealt

798
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: with those situations in real life? Yeah, Ryan Grigson got

799
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: really mad at me. Thought I was like stonewalling him,

800
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: like hurting his chances for a job or something. You know,

801
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: people get pissed off. I've had people that I like,

802
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: get mad at and what are you gonna do? You?

803
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: Just like I just told that guy, you just say

804
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: what you think. I'm no different than anyone in the NFL.

805
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: They have every coach in GM and assistant GM could

806
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: host a podcast with their opinions. They talk and I

807
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: don't even feel like I'm talking shit. I'm just saying

808
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: what I think, no different than any of them. Everything

809
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: I say is public, and like, I don't think I'm

810
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: off the beaten path that often. Now, I did say

811
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: something that I knew last year got into the Giants

812
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: building about like Wink, Martin Dale and Dave Ball and

813
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: last year at the Combine, I got on the elevator

814
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: and Day bawls right there. He's looking at me, and

815
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: I was just like, Yeah, if this guy's gonna yell

816
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: at me, I wouldn't. I wouldn't blame him, like he

817
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: has the right to be mad. He didn't say anything.

818
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: He's like he maybe didn't even realize who I was.

819
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: I assume he didn't, or maybe just I don't know.

820
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get into a not like a scuffle,

821
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: but I was prepared. It's like, Okay, I'm sure I'm

822
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna hear it here because obviously that was a really

823
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: public situation. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't

824
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: really think about it that often, to be honestly, I

825
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: don't really care. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure I've

826
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: actually got way more positive, people that I didn't know

827
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL, that liked the show, that find a

828
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: way to reach out and develop, you know, people that

829
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I would not have known without this. More often than

830
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: any of that. It's a weird business because you know

831
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about this stuff. They are human beings. But also,

832
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: like I've having worked in the business, like you know,

833
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: not everyone. If I don't think you're good, what am

834
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: I supposed to pretend I think you're good. It's why

835
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm much more comfortable being hard on coaches and front

836
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: office people than players, because I have like it is,

837
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: I've said this and I will say this till the

838
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: day I die. It is infinitely harder to make the

839
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: NFL as a player, even if you are quote unquote

840
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, like a practice squad. I was gonna say scrub,

841
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: but you can't be a scrub to make the NFL.

842
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: But when you're scouting, like you get kind of jade

843
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, this guy sucks, this guy's okay, this

844
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: guy's good, like even some of the worst players that

845
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: are in the NFL. It is way more difficult to

846
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: accomplish that than it is to become a position coach

847
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and there are way, you know, more

848
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: people that are coaching in the NFL that should not be.

849
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: There aren't many. There's nobody that's playing in the NFL,

850
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, on the especially like an initial fifty three

851
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: or plays in the game that probably should not be

852
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: playing in a game. Obviously they might get replaced or

853
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: might be better guys coming up. But there are a

854
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: lot of people in NFL circles that are complete frauds,

855
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: non player. So it's why I have no hesitation. And

856
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: obviously the good coaches are the good coaches for a reason.

857
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: But that's like any industry, you know. I mean, there

858
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: are talented people and they're less talented people, and there

859
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: are people that are just scam artists. Like you can't

860
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: scam your way as a player, like I can scam

861
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: my way as you know, a team president. I can

862
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: scam my way as a coordinator or hell, sometimes a

863
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: head coach as you know, the assistant. I hear stories

864
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: all the time. Now, this this guy is one of

865
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: the biggest frauds. I mean I saw it with my

866
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: own two eyes. It's like, this guy's not any good.

867
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: And then you watch the guy go on to become

868
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: something you're like, what is going on? But like, you

869
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: can't fake you know. It's like, hey, I had twelve

870
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: sacks at at Old Miss. You either did or you didn't. Right.

871
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: You can't bullshit your way to the NFL as a player.

872
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: You can in the other positions, especially in coaching, because

873
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: you just know the guy. You always say that until

874
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: proven otherwise. There are certain organizations like the Jets, the Jags,

875
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: the Falcons, and the Dolphins that you will continue to

876
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: bet against. I was curious and as someone who has

877
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: been part of a successful organization, what do you think

878
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: franchises such as these need to do internally to change

879
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: your long term outlook on them going into the next

880
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: season so that quote unquote will stop betting against them. Ironically,

881
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: I bet against the Dolphins this year and I lost money.

882
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: I bet against the Falcons and I lost money, Like

883
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: whenever I bet against these individual teams, I lost money.

884
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I did bet against the Jets one time, and when

885
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: the vividly stands out, I think playing the Colts. It

886
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: was the Colts game. It's funny. I could never get

887
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: those teams figured out. The Jets, I mean had a

888
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: ten lost streak. I would say I saw a quote

889
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: I think yesterday or two days ago that Woody Johnson

890
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: said that he poo pooed the article that came out

891
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: on the athletics, that it was a lot of hyperbolic

892
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: headlines in there that were fabricated. But he needs to

893
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: be a better owner, that he needs to do a

894
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: better job in his role as an owner. And in

895
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: my experience, though I wasn't in meetings with like the

896
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: owner and the coach and the GM, it was pretty

897
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: clear that Howie Andy got to cook right. And if

898
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: you watch them now, like Veach and Andy just get

899
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: to cook right, and how He gets to cook. I'm

900
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: not saying that those two don't de with Clark Hunt

901
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: or Howie doesn't deal with Jeffrey Lury, but they are empowered.

902
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: So when you hire these people, you have to empower

903
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: them and then if they're good, they will take your

904
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: franchise to be a consistent winner, even as you hit

905
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: rocky times like you don't you're unfaced. I think a

906
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: lot of these owners because when they hire, they're constantly

907
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: hiring new people. Right, hire this guy, he sucks, Fire

908
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: this guy, hire this guy, and they're always very very involved,

909
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: and it's hard for them not to micromanage because they go, oh,

910
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: this is not working. And I think it's very very

911
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: hard to overcome that. It's like when you are a

912
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: head coach or a GM and you're constantly having to

913
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: deal with the owner's ideas, it can be very very difficult.

914
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: And listen, it's unavoidable. And ultimately, if they want to

915
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: have an idea or chime in, it's their team. They

916
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: can say whatever they want. But I think that's a

917
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: huge problem here. So like when I think about the Falcons,

918
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: isn't random that Arthur Blank's always on the fucking field

919
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: five minutes before the game or I mean at the

920
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: end of the game, He's always standing there like he

921
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: likes to be a star in this organization. Feels like

922
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: he's got a heavy hand. Rich McKay is the executor

923
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: of his estate and as the team president. I mean,

924
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: it just feels like they're very, very involved. The Dolphins,

925
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that owner's nuts. I think the Jags just

926
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: to have just to hire awful people. I think Woody

927
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: Johnson clearly, I think it's an ownership deal. I see

928
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: it with the Raiders. I think it's hard for Mark

929
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: not to get involved. I think for the first time.

930
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: I think he did it with Gruden, and then he

931
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: hired these other people, and then he got back involved,

932
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: and now I think he's hoping with Tom and Pete

933
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: he can just kind of stay out of it. I

934
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: think that's the key is like, is your owner constantly

935
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: like bugging you with stupid ideas, and if he gives

936
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: you an idea, what are you supposed to do? Not

937
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: do it? It's like when your boss says something like

938
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: kind of insinuates, like, yeah, I should probably do this

939
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: because it's pretty clear he wants this done. And in fairness,

940
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: like some of those owners metal like they hire, like

941
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: the Jets weren't wrong for hiring Robert song hot coaching,

942
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: it just turns out like a little over said being

943
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: a head coach. And back to the guy asked me

944
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: about the head coach, I can't speak. I mean, I

945
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: haven't been around high school football since I was in

946
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: high school in two thousand and two. But I think

947
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: in college football in the NFL, as a head coach,

948
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: you're doing so many tasks that don't revolve necessarily around

949
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: like a football play or coaching a guy's like foot

950
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: work up. You spend a lot of your time as

951
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: like a guidance counselor helping young people out. Guy having

952
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: a bad day, just talking to him, a guy struggling

953
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: in football, building his confidence back up, a young coach

954
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: like kind of riding him, trying to push him to

955
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: be better. You spend a lot of your time doing

956
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: that type stuff, and obviously in college in the pros.

957
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Then there's the media stuff. There's the promotion for your program.

958
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, I saw Andy on McAfee today. There's there's

959
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: a lot of other things that you have to do

960
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: that if you're just a linebacker coach or're the offensive coordinator,

961
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: that you don't have to really worry about, so you

962
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: kind of it's a lot of these guys get put

963
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: in these positions like it's It's why a opening press conference,

964
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: if you're opening press conference, is not a home run,

965
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: it's a red flag because nothing after that opening press

966
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: conference is easy. The entire offseason's hard. You now run

967
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: free agency, the draft, like everyone's asking you questions like

968
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: what do you think about this coach? What do you

969
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: like about this coach? You like this player? Coach? Hey, coach,

970
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: we got this guy wants to play with you. Hey, coach,

971
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator as a question, Hey, coach, the special

972
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: teams coach wants to run a couple of things by you,

973
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's just constant. Hey, the owner needs

974
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Hey the ad he needs talk

975
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: to you. You just got to be able to balance

976
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: your time and not get too stressed out, which I

977
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: think is why older coaches, you know, there's a reason

978
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: like you you look around, you know, I mean, look

979
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: at the Eagles hired Fangio and their defense is dramatically better. Well,

980
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: Vic Fangiel is like sixty plus years old, He's been

981
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: coaching for a long time. He kind of knows what

982
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: he's doing. So guess who no longer has to think

983
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: it all about the defense? Nick Sirianni. So what does

984
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: Nick have to worry about, Like keep an eye on

985
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: the offense, deal with Kellen and you know Jalen and

986
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: just kind of the team messages. He does not need

987
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: to worry about the defense. That's nice to have. Hell

988
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: and Andy is one of the greatest coaches of all time.

989
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: Like he talks to Spags a lot, but it's not

990
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: like he's telling him what to do, Like he doesn't

991
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: if I told Andy on a given week, Like, you're

992
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: just not allowed to say a word a game week

993
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: starting on Monday through the end of the game. You

994
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: can't say anything to Spags all week long. Can't even

995
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: ask him what they're doing you beside the team meeting

996
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. You're not even allowed. This is an experiment

997
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: to talk to the defensive players. He'd probably sleep well

998
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: at night. Some coaches would have a heart attack. So

999
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: it's like, who are your assistant coaches really really matter?

1000
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: I've been twenty five, been a bear stand in my

1001
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: whole life, and never have been more excited about our

1002
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: offensive chances for the next season. With that said, our

1003
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: offensive line needs a major overhaul. How would you begin

1004
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: architecting a line that could protect Kleb Williams and run

1005
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's offense. What traits do you look for in

1006
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: an O lineman when you're scouting, Well, I think it

1007
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: depends what kind of offense you're running. Right, if you run

1008
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: the Shanahan zone scheme, I can get by with less

1009
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: talented guys that are more athletic. Right, everyone would want

1010
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: the same star alignment like they would play in any scheme.

1011
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Pina Sewel the Niners would take them, The Lions would

1012
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: take them, the Chiefs would take them, the Giants would

1013
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: take He'd start for every team league, right, Tristan Wurf's

1014
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, Trent Williams. Those guys have it all size, strength,

1015
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: athletic ability, power, smarts, just feet. I mean, they got

1016
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: it all most guys though. It's like some guys are

1017
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: not is good of athletes, but they're very very powerful,

1018
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: and other guys are much better athletes than they are strong.

1019
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: So how do we want to play? Right? You know,

1020
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: when I watched the Lions, they could kind of do

1021
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: it all. Why because they had an elite offensive line.

1022
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: Their guys were athletic, they were strong, they could run

1023
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: zone schemes, they could shove you off the line of scrimmage.

1024
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: The Eagles can do the same thing like Lane Johnson,

1025
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Mylatta, Landon Dickerson. Like, these guys can play in

1026
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: any scheme. So do you you know it's Ben Johnson

1027
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: scheme dependent, like because if I'm going to run more

1028
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: zone scheme, then I kind of emphasize more athleticism. If

1029
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to run more of like a gap power scheme,

1030
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: which I think most teams do, hybrids of them both.

1031
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: I think you just need to get guys that start right.

1032
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: So I need guys that are just solid starters. I

1033
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: think that's the key when you look at personnel, So

1034
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: you go, how many solid starters do we have on

1035
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: our offensive line? Do we got one? So do we

1036
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: need four guys? Can we upgrade four guys in offseas?

1037
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: Probably not? But can we add like two solid starters

1038
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: Let's say it's like a center and a guard or

1039
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: a right tackle and a guard potentially three? Do we

1040
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: sign a couple guys in free agency and draft two?

1041
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: It's hard? And then you also, I haven't seen who

1042
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: their offensive line coach is, but you know that hire

1043
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: for a young coach is huge. Do you know one

1044
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,479
Speaker 1: of the biggest benefits that the Eagles have is they've

1045
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: had Jeff Stotlin since I was there, Jeff Stotlin, when

1046
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly came on, it's twenty twenty five. Jeff Stotlin

1047
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: has been there with Chip Kelly, He's been there with

1048
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, and he's been there with Nick Sirianni. And

1049
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: guess who's had consistently one of the best offensive linemen

1050
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: or a line line. Zah Jeff Stallin and the Eagles.

1051
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: So it's like when you get a really really good

1052
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, that guy can make Jordan my Latta

1053
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: in the seventh round into a Pro Bowl left tackle.

1054
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: That guy can take young players and immediately plug and

1055
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: play him as starters. So it's like, you know Ryan Wendell,

1056
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: who was the assistant coach for the Bills, who when

1057
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: I was at President of State, he had just went

1058
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: to the NFL. He played for a long time for

1059
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots for Dante Scarnekia, and you know, was like

1060
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: a fringe starter, started some games. Now he's become an

1061
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: no line coach. McVeigh hired him. Look how much better

1062
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: the Rams offensive line is the last couple of years.

1063
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: It's like Andy Reid has a good offensive line coach.

1064
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: But Andy Reid is also an offensive line guy, Like

1065
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: that's what he played, So he's very comfortable coaching that

1066
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: hardball loves offensive lineman. So it's like he emphasizes drafting

1067
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: those guys, recruiting those guys, but he also likes talking

1068
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: to those guys, hyping them up, and coaching those guys

1069
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: and being around those guys. So you kind of get

1070
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: what you emphasize and if I'm if I am Ben Johnson,

1071
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: I do exactly what we just did in Detroit. And

1072
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: luckily they already have some skill guys on the roster, right,

1073
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: you got a quarterback, you got a tight end, you

1074
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: got a couple receivers. It's just all about investing in

1075
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: that spot. And I'm pretty sure like when they got

1076
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: there in Detroit, rag Now was already there. Weird he

1077
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: get drafted, Yeah, he got drafted. Matt Patricians he got

1078
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: drafted in eighteen. But and Decker was there as well.

1079
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: But they drafted in a sewel and that was that

1080
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: was a game changing move. Now this Bears team's not drafting.

1081
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's their pick eight, nine, ten.

1082
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: I was just drafted offensive lineman. It wouldn't even be

1083
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: a question offensive lineman. If you had to pinpoint, why

1084
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: do you think defensive coordinators taking head jobs and instance

1085
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: instantaneously become ceo head coaches they give up play calling,

1086
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: opposed to ocs who turned into head coaches that say

1087
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: they will call plays. It's so interesting to me because

1088
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,479
Speaker 1: they are hired upon the fact that their defenses are good.

1089
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think part of it is

1090
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: part of being an offensive coordinator and becoming a star

1091
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is you're kind of like the orchestrator. You know,

1092
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: you're you're the director of a movie. You just you

1093
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: are orchestrating these eleven guys, like you're running the place

1094
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: that the defense has to react to. As the defensive coordinator, ultimately,

1095
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: your job is like half motivation and obviously half scheming,

1096
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: but a lot of your scheme is taking educated guesses

1097
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. As an offensive coordinator, I'm creating

1098
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: something that they don't know is coming. So my skill,

1099
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: like part of why it's so hard to find a

1100
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator is they got to obviously really understand scheme,

1101
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: but they also have to have like this pretty special

1102
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: motivational presence. Like you just watch Vic Fangio around dudes,

1103
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: like he's this old, chubby, kind of smaller white guy,

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00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: and ask any human being that's ever been in a

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00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: meeting room with him, like he commands respect one. He's

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00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: just kind of an old school curmudgeon until he really

1107
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. So it's like when you

1108
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 1: watch Aaron Glenn, like a huge part of his thing

1109
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: is not just calling like corner blitzes or you know,

1110
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: teaching guys how to tackle. It's like leadership, right, it's

1111
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: motivation and as an offensive coordinator, like is Ben Johnson

1112
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote motivating people? No, he's fucking calling incredible routes

1113
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: for Saint Brown and Laporta and working on Jared Goff's

1114
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: footwork so he gets the ball out of his hands

1115
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: on time and running plays that are gonna work. So

1116
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: I understand why coaches do it because they go I

1117
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: can find someone who knows a decent amount as the

1118
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: same level of schematically as I do, Like we're on

1119
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: the same level. But like my motivation, then it's on

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Speaker 1: me to also motivate the offense, right, and just motivate

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Speaker 1: the team, like I'm a motivator. But that's why Aaron

1122
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: Glenn got hired. He's motivator. Pete Carroll's a leader motivator. Right,

1123
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: Clearly they have to know football in no schemes against offense.

1124
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: But like Pete Carroll's job is to like lead the troops.

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01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 1: That's Aaron Glenn's job, Like that's kind of Dan Campbell's job,

1126
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: and it's Johnny Morton's job to scheme guys open. If

1127
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: Johnny Morton in two years gets a job out of

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: the Lions, like he will call plays and if Shepherd

1129
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: you know it's It's why I do appreciate Demiko Ryans

1130
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: like he's calling plays. Ideally, I would like you to

1131
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: do both right, but some guys don't like it. Is

1132
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson gonna He's not gonna be some great motivator.

1133
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be his thing. So he's gonna be

1134
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: another other guys on staff that kind of play that role.

1135
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: And in general you have different guys talk to the team,

1136
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: but Commander's fan here. Obviously, this team accomplished more than

1137
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: anybody could have imagined at the beginning of the year.

1138
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: Jaden has implemented himself as our franchise quarterback. But outside

1139
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: of Jayden and Terry, were an obvious skilled disadvantage at

1140
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: pretty much every position. When we play good teams this offseason,

1141
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: what do you think the Commanders need to do? I

1142
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: would look for two positions. I know you guys have

1143
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: some interesting running backs. I would try to draft like

1144
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: my Jamier Gibbs, my Alvin Kamara, my Saquon, Mike Christian McCaffrey,

1145
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: and luckily this draft is loaded. So on the second

1146
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: day of the draft, either in the second or third round,

1147
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: I am picking a running back. And with the first

1148
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: round pick, I think you go any position. You know.

1149
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: I think you could take a tight end easily. I

1150
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: don't think I would take a wide receiver. In the

1151
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: first round. I would take offensive lineman, defensive lineman or

1152
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: tied it. I would take something in the line of scrimmage.

1153
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: And in the second round, I'm just taking a running

1154
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: back and ideally like, can we get a dynamic running

1155
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: back that just takes a little pressure off Jaden because

1156
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: you just don't want them to be Superman every fucking game.

1157
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag, Scotti. Scheffler's twenty twenty fourth season

1158
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: was the most dominant since Tiger's seven, both winning seven

1159
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: tournaments in just one year. Do you see Scheffler maintaining

1160
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: this level of performance this upcoming season? Seems like now

1161
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: more than ever, golf needs a Tiger Tiger like a

1162
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: figure to help the decline in ratings and viewership. I

1163
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: would imagine Scotty Scheffer's gonna keep kicking everyone's ass and win.

1164
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna win seven times, but

1165
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: I would put the number at like four or five.

1166
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: I'd be stunned if he doesn't win a major this year.

1167
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: But uh, there is no Tiger viewership. You know, those

1168
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: days are done. It wasn't just that Tiger was such

1169
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: a transcendent figure. Obviously he you know, won. There wasn't

1170
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Speaker 1: any black golfers his name was Tiger. Technically his name's Eldrick.

1171
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: But like, he is the most unique figure of my

1172
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: life in any sport, more than Michael Jordan, more than

1173
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, more than Juice Up, Barry Bonds, more than

1174
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: now Lebron or Steph partly because he took a sport

1175
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: that is not mainstream, that is extremely Let's face it.

1176
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, before Tiger Woods, it was just known as

1177
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: a super rich guy sport. Now golf, you know, I

1178
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: mean it's still pretty expensive to play, but I mean

1179
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: it's proven, like you don't need to be a member

1180
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: at a country club to play golf, but there will.

1181
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident saying this. There's never gonna be

1182
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: another Tiger Woods in my lifetime. They're just just not

1183
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: He looked different, he played different, and again his name

1184
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: was fucking Tiger. I don't know if Tiger Woods is

1185
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: as big, even if he looked the exact same and

1186
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: his name was Robert Johnson and his dad instead of

1187
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: Earl Woods was like James, I think there is Scotty's

1188
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: a great player, but there's that ain't happening again. It's

1189
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: just not that being said, I kind of like Scotty

1190
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: Scheffer to win this weekend. A Dolphins fan here, my

1191
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: question is for the mailback, what the hell do the

1192
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins need to actually do to actually become competitive? McDaniel

1193
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: and Greer are staying at least for this upcoming year

1194
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: and to his injury prone would love to hear your

1195
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Dolphins don't really get discussed on the

1196
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: pod for obvious reasons. I think we kind of see

1197
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: who Mike is. He's just not a tough guy. And

1198
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you fake toughness when you think about,

1199
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: like the best teams like the Ravens are tough, not

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: just because like well we got a long history of

1201
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: being tough. No, like John Harper is a tough guy

1202
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: and they draft tough players, right, Jim Harboss teams are

1203
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: always tough. Why Jim's tough? You kind of are what

1204
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: your head coaches and I think it's very, very difficult

1205
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: to overcome. Mike McDaniel. He literally went on a rant

1206
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: at his end of the year press conference saying, fines

1207
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: don't work, guys are showing up late all the time. Well,

1208
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: he's not talking about the guy in the practice squad,

1209
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: because a guy in the practice squad would never show

1210
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: up late. Why he would get cut. He's not showing

1211
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: talking about backup players because those guys would get cut

1212
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: as well. Who can afford fines? Look at their roster.

1213
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: I think it's face fair to assume it's not too

1214
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: a Tongo bay loa, so is it. Jalen Ramsey is

1215
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: a Tyreek hill. If these guys, if your best players

1216
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: don't respect you, you have no shot. And I think, like, listen,

1217
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: he's got this cool look. He's got this one hundred

1218
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars watch and these thousand dollars sunglasses, and that

1219
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 1: shit was cool year one. He's got the curly hair

1220
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: rocket now with the gel and he kind of looks

1221
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: like a drug dealer. Like it's just not funny anymore.

1222
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: Because when your team plays a real game and it's

1223
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: cold outside, we expect you to get your ass kicked

1224
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: and it's listen. It's one thing for me as a

1225
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: podcaster you as a fan to say that literally as

1226
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: players stopped respecting him. And last year when Fangio left

1227
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: and was like this place is fucked up, and all

1228
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: the players were like, he's such a dick, asked the Eagles,

1229
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: is Fangio a dick? Or is he just really good coach?

1230
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: And good defensive coaches are kind of hard ass and

1231
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: being a hard ass in the sport of football. This

1232
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: is in basketball kind of matters and kind of works.

1233
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: I'll promise you this. No one's showing up to Andy

1234
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: Reid's meetings late over and over and over again, not

1235
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: tolerated one they respect him. So I think when he

1236
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: said that, I thought, whoa, they don't respect the coach.

1237
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: And in fairness, he was not alone. Shane Stiken said

1238
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: the same thing after Pat McAfee called him out. And

1239
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: I think sometimes with these offensive coaches that are quote

1240
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: unquote wizards, Okay, you're really smart, but like, are you

1241
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: a tough guy? Because you know who's not scared of

1242
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: confrontation Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Mike Rabel,

1243
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: Like eventually you just get into these like, no, this

1244
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: is not gonna be tolerated. It's listen, this is hard.

1245
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean you might not tolerate. The guy might be

1246
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 1: your starting guard six foot six, three hundred pounds. Mike

1247
01:07:55,920 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: McDaniel's gonna tell him something clearly not I'll promise you

1248
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: who would Belichick, would have Vrabel, would have Pete Carroll

1249
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: Will Andy ain't scared. I'm not saying they're gonna come

1250
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: to blows, but like there has to be some sort

1251
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: of intimidation factor aka mental warfare. And I think Mike

1252
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: and Shane are they kind of getting worked over by players.

1253
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. And that's when you get like,

1254
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: are you kind of over your head for this job?

1255
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: I would assume if you got Mike McDaniel or Shane

1256
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: stike In inside a whiteboard and you took all the

1257
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: top offensive guys starting with Andy to McVeigh to Laflorida,

1258
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: Kyle to Kevin O'Connell, Shane Stikeen, and Mike McDaniel, could

1259
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: draw some shit that those guys would steal like that's awesome.

1260
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,959
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter that their job is not just play designer,

1261
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: it's leader, it's head coach it's disciplinarian in a weird way,

1262
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: like you're kind of balanced between the play caller slash,

1263
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: like I'm these guys like father right, Like I'm in charge,

1264
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: Like you guys look at me. I tell you what

1265
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: we're having for dinner. You don't. I do. There's a balance.

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01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you just an asshole constantly, but I

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01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: can't let you guys start pushing me around like that's

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of we lost the plot here. And I don't

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: think it's shocking at all that both those organizations kind

1270
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: of fell apart this year. A pass fan, I'm excited

1271
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: about Vrabel, especially after the Mayo experiment, which was a disaster.

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: But I can't help but think that the Pats might

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01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: turn into the modern day cowboys, where at one point

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01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: they had all this success and then the owner started

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01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: to get really in the way, and they fell into

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01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: a franchise that hangs its coattails on the old days

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01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 1: with an owner who seems to be too involved. You know.

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: I saw a clip of Diana Orussini the other day

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: and she's like, it's funny that you start doing some

1280
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: reporting and digging over the last month of some of

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: these teams that have job openings and they're a little

1282
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: insulated from the conversation. Jerry Jones fuse his job as

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01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys as the best job in the league.

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01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: You could put a gun to his head and say, Jerry,

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01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: tell me this is not the best job in the league,

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01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be able to do it because, deep

1287
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: down to his core soul, he believes the Dallas Cowboys

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: the best job in the league. Get that is not

1289
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: viewed that way anymore. Just like the Jets, Like, what

1290
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: are Johnson? Like, what the fucking New York Jets? You're

1291
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: coaching in New York, the brightest lights, the biggest market.

1292
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, what do you got to coach the Jets? Like?

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: That's not a good thing. And I think sometimes that

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01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: these owners, now they've made so much money, I think

1295
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: it's less about like Robert Kraft, like living in the past, right.

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01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: I just think he thinks and rightfully so, because he

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01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 1: has this team worth billions of dollars. He's been part

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: I guess of championships that he knows a lot and

1299
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: his opinions, and listen, the Patriots are a huge part

1300
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: of his life. Just like Jerry Jones it's like Woody Johnson,

1301
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: Like these guys are in the building constantly. Your story

1302
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: is like Shot Conson even around, right, Like Jed York

1303
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: is not going into Kyle Shanahan's office every single day,

1304
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: So it's like what type owner is he constantly coming

1305
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: around telling me what to do? And I think also

1306
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: the dynamics with the Crafts, it's like Jonathan plays a

1307
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: big role, and I think put yourself in a position

1308
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: in some of you guys listening are part of family businesses.

1309
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: You know it's unique. Right, Let's use Robert Craft and

1310
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, who are both over eighty, both billionaires, and

1311
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: both how could you They're just not as sharp as

1312
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: they once were, but their kids are kind of circling

1313
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: like sharks. Like also like I'm kind of the boss,

1314
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 1: but I'm not in total control, right, Like Stephen Jones

1315
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: could not fire Brian Schottenneimer today, just like Robert or

1316
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,839
Speaker 1: Jonathan Craft could not fire one of the assistant coaches.

1317
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: He has to go through his dad. So there's an

1318
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: element of still like he's thirteen years old. Even though

1319
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: Jonathan Craft is I mean lives like a king, right,

1320
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's got five homes, member of country clubs.

1321
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: He's living like he has like he owns the team, right,

1322
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: So there's that dynamic that plays a part in it.

1323
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: And I think there's just constant kind of back and forth,

1324
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: just when you disagree with your dad and then like

1325
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: you kind of can play this role when your dad's

1326
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: just gone of like I'm the boss, even though you're

1327
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: technically not. So I just think there's a lot going

1328
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: on in situations like that. I think this is where

1329
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: Frable comes in. I don't think he gives a shit.

1330
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: He does not give a shit, Like he's not gonna

1331
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: be like, okay, he was part of some of those

1332
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: like he does not care about what happened in two

1333
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: thousand and four. It doesn't have much relevance to right

1334
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: now now. I'm sure that comes up, like the championship

1335
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: culture and that type stuff. But he's not just holding

1336
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 1: on to the good old days. It's all about twenty

1337
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: twenty five. How do we improve for Drake May, How

1338
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: do we play better defense? What kind offense we're gonna

1339
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: run right? Like what went wrong last year? How do

1340
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: we change? I think there's always a balance in life

1341
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: of like using your past experiences and letting those dictate

1342
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: your life, right, Like as you get older and we

1343
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: all know these people to just hold on and tell

1344
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: the same stories, Like guys, that was twenty years ago,

1345
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: that was ten years ago, that was five years ago.

1346
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: Like we're kind of like, what have you done lately?

1347
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: Like it's twenty twenty five, right, so like how do

1348
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: we fix this problem now? And you see that with

1349
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: teams like, hey, we won the Super Bowl back in

1350
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven. No one cares if you were thirty

1351
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: years old the last time you won a super Bowl.

1352
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: You would be seventy now. So it's like there's got

1353
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: to be some sort of balance. I think it's probably

1354
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: hard for these super rich guys. Would you take Love

1355
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 1: or Hurts? I'm curious on your thoughts. I think the Eagles,

1356
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: if we did this exercise like this, we're starting from scratch.

1357
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: All of our teams are gonna be equal. On the

1358
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: Eagles with that offensive line, Jalen's running ability, you would

1359
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: rather have Jalen Hurts. I do think, like if you

1360
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: told me I got Andy Reid as my coach, I

1361
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: would like Love as my quarterback. And I might be wrong.

1362
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll the best he'll ever pass is that eight

1363
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: games streak his first year starting. I'm not giving up yet,

1364
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: not giving up, but I mean Jalen's starting a second

1365
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so I can't. Again. We have to do

1366
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: the exercise of like I don't have the Eagles personnel.

1367
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: All teams are the same. Like if you told the

1368
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: if you told a shitty team, let's do that, Pete

1369
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: Carroll or Brian Daball, what quarterback you'd rather have? And

1370
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: they might, they might get it wrong. I think most

1371
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: would choose Jordan Love because the passing element of it.

1372
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm fairly new business owner. What would be your best

1373
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: advice getting in to owning your own business? Well, I

1374
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: would say I'm pretty unique here that like, I'm a

1375
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: partner in this venture, so there are elements of stuff

1376
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: that I don't have to deal with. And if you

1377
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: own it a more traditional business, you do have to

1378
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: deal with everything under that umbrella. So I probably couldn't

1379
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: give And it depends what you own. And I've you know,

1380
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: growing up, my dad worked for an independent guy in

1381
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:31,520
Speaker 1: the farming world. I saw my family run different industries.

1382
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: Now I get cousins that run a beer business. It's

1383
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: family owned that I just think it depends on the industry.

1384
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: I do think this, and having I had another podcast

1385
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: which I did for like six seven years after I

1386
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: got out of radio. You can only do so much

1387
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: stuff by yourself. And I used to think this I

1388
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: could do. And I was talking to someone on the

1389
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: phone today who's in my industry, and he's we were

1390
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: just kind of shooting shit talking about some stuff. You

1391
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 1: can only go so far by yourself. You need other

1392
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: people to help you out. I could not my quote

1393
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: unquote career. I'm not a broadcaster, podcast or whatever you

1394
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: want to consider this, It's not possible. I could only

1395
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: take myself so far. Collins value of promotion, distribution, even

1396
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: the partnership with iHeart and the sales guys we have

1397
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: here at the volume is extremely valuable. Right, So I

1398
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: could attempt if I wanted to do it all on

1399
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: my own, There's no way I could do it. I

1400
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: don't have the bandwidth to do everything. On top of

1401
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: all the technical logistics, I don't know how to do

1402
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Obviously, they are going to be

1403
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: elements of your business you're just not going to know

1404
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: how to do right, And the quicker you hire people

1405
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: to do that, the faster you're able to grow because

1406
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people and I'm maybe more

1407
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: guilty of this than most. I just feel I can

1408
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: do it. I can do it, and then you end

1409
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: up wasting so much time. I would say the older

1410
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: I've gotten, the more I try to lean on other

1411
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: people and even just willing to pay someone else to

1412
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: do something to help with time efficiency. Obviously there's a

1413
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 1: balance of wasting money and depending on what your businesses

1414
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: your resources, but I would say the faster you can

1415
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: scale is directly correlated with the other people you have,

1416
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: either depending on you know, partnering with working for you,

1417
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: however your you know setup is. But you can only

1418
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: do so much by yourself, no matter even if you're

1419
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: working ninety hundred hour weeks. You need, you know. Football

1420
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: coaches say this, well, like I'm a product of my staff, right.

1421
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people you know CEOs say

1422
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: like you know whoever they're top four or five people

1423
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: in their in their corner are CFO, CMO, COO, you

1424
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 1: need help, right, and he'd be the first to tell you,

1425
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: like he's a way better coach with Brett Beach picking

1426
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: the players right. Howie Roseman looks like a lot better

1427
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,839
Speaker 1: GM now that they got Fangio calling the defense, Sirian,

1428
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: it looks like a lot better head coach now they

1429
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: hire Fangio. I just think that, like you know, if

1430
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: you're watching this on YouTube, I have nothing to do

1431
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: with that beside recording this. I can do the content, right,

1432
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: Could I figure it out? Probably? It's probably. I mean,

1433
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: I guess I could, but it would be energy and

1434
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: time away from doing what I do best. Just like

1435
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: whatever you do best, you know, figure that out, go

1436
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 1: all in on it. It's like the old adage of like,

1437
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, people that are more successful out of like

1438
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: ten things, they just like master a couple of them

1439
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: and just hand off all the other ones. And obviously

1440
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: for you, you pay other people to do it. But

1441
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you try to spread yourself too thin

1442
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: on whatever you're doing, especially if you're a young person,

1443
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: it can it can become overwhelming and it can beat

1444
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: you down. Good luck, man, appreciate everyone listening. Talk to

1445
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: you soon and ull be back in a couple of days.

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: Audios the volume mm hmm,