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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from house

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Speaker 1: stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Polly Try and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. And today's

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Speaker 1: topic is one that we have had many requests for,

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Speaker 1: especially since I mentioned when we were doing our Maurice

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Speaker 1: to Place episode that I wanted to do more Canadian history.

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Speaker 1: And it's also one that's actually been on my list

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Speaker 1: for quite a while. But I will not tell a lie.

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Speaker 1: The thing that tipped the balance and kind of shifted

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Speaker 1: this way up was a request from one of our

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Speaker 1: youngest fans, Zell and her dad Tony, who wrote as

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Speaker 1: a very charming email, so bono that you made. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So this one is going to be about French Canadian

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Speaker 1: history and the colonization of New France. And while the

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Speaker 1: building of a population in a new colony seems like

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Speaker 1: a rather tricky endeavor and it is, uh, Francis King

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Speaker 1: Louis four launched this scheme to do just that by

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Speaker 1: shipping eligible ladies to do France in the sixteen hundreds

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Speaker 1: so they could be brides and helped build out this population.

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Speaker 1: And how did this play out? You may or may

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Speaker 1: not be surprised, but we will tell you all about

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Speaker 1: it starting now. So after Europe became aware of these

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Speaker 1: giant new continents new to their minds, the Americans, all

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Speaker 1: of that land became contentiously battled over by all the

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Speaker 1: various European power players. Spain and Portugal struggled with one another,

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Speaker 1: primarily to rest control of South America, while North America

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Speaker 1: became a battleground for France and England. And in sixteen

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Speaker 1: o eight Samuel de Champlain built the first domicile in Quebec,

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Speaker 1: and consequently he's sometimes referred to as the founder of

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Speaker 1: New France. And this, of course, we're giving you very

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Speaker 1: broad strokes. It's an oversimplified version of the story. But

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Speaker 1: I mostly just wanted to establish the official founding of

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Speaker 1: this settlement in the early sixteen hundreds. In those early years,

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Speaker 1: the primary industry of New France was the fur trade.

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Speaker 1: For the to five years after disham Plan founded the settlement,

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Speaker 1: it was run by commercial companies. The Canadian colony was

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Speaker 1: primarily run by the Compagnie de Santa Socier, which had

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Speaker 1: promised to develop the North American French territory in exchange

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Speaker 1: for rights to the land resources and so what started

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Speaker 1: primarily as a group of fur trappers and traders did

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Speaker 1: indeed grow, and soon there were dock workers to handle

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Speaker 1: the incoming and outgoing shipments of fur. There were shopkeepers

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Speaker 1: because they had to have some form of commerce that

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Speaker 1: was supporting all of these people. Uh. And there were

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Speaker 1: other workmen that came to New France, but really it

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Speaker 1: was all about supporting the fur trade uh. And most

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Speaker 1: of these were men that were on their own or

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Speaker 1: who had left their families behind. So bringing women and

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Speaker 1: children across the Atlantic to a new territory that was

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Speaker 1: still covered in wilderness wasn't generally thought of as profitable

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Speaker 1: by the men who were settling New France. Adding more

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Speaker 1: mouths to feed, and these were mouths that wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to contribute to the attom line of the fur

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Speaker 1: trade really seemed like a losing proposition on paper. From

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Speaker 1: the standpoint of a for profit business looking to stay profitable,

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Speaker 1: this was of course the wisest course of action to

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Speaker 1: you know, leave behind the women and children. But from

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Speaker 1: the point of view of a country that was actually

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Speaker 1: looking to colonize the land that it had claimed abroad,

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Speaker 1: this became a huge problem. After fifty five years of

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Speaker 1: letting the company to Santa Associate run the settlement effort,

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Speaker 1: less than one percent of the land that France had

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Speaker 1: claimed was actually occupied by Europeans. There were a mere

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Speaker 1: three thousand settlers in New France, and by comparison, British

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Speaker 1: colonists numbered in the low six figures. There were more

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Speaker 1: than thirty times as many of them as there were

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Speaker 1: French colonists. So we've talked many times before about the

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Speaker 1: lengthy and contentious history between Britain and France. Before this

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Speaker 1: vast gap in colonial development was kind of an embarrassment

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Speaker 1: how the national pride had kind of been tanked by it,

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Speaker 1: King Louis and the other leaders in France made a

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Speaker 1: move to rectify the situation, so New France was then

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Speaker 1: placed under the rule of the monarchy. The Sun King

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Speaker 1: was extremely keene on incentivizing colonization. He really really wanted

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Speaker 1: fourteenth and the Sun King's legacy, but he really there

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Speaker 1: was some pretty explosive colonization growth for France all over

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Speaker 1: These three men concocted this plan to fill the gap

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Speaker 1: so when this initiative that they came up with was

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Speaker 1: started in sixteen sixty three, there were six men for

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Speaker 1: every woman in New France, and some most of those

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Speaker 1: France to become brides, mothers, and really the backbone of

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Speaker 1: government expense, and the French West India Company handled their

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Speaker 1: very important cargo because the King really really wanted this

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Speaker 1: whole thing to be successful. And while there had been

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Speaker 1: women who traveled to Canada certainly prior to this initiative

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Speaker 1: they arrived in New France, and the convent would care

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Speaker 1: took this responsibility very very seriously. H Before we talk

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Speaker 1: getting back to the Fie doua, the backgrounds of these

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Speaker 1: genteel ladies. But really it really was pretty diverse. Some

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Speaker 1: Jean Tellen wrote to Jean Baptiste Colbert that it would

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Speaker 1: least have some ability for handiwork. Yeah, he wanted some

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Speaker 1: So I'm so happy because these are gorgeous postcards and

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