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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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Speaker 2: Now your hosts Votch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarish,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Tuesday, March tenth, twenty twenty six, and we

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Speaker 3: are forty four days away from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Light, the

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Speaker 3: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We've got Vox Lombardi,

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris, Tommy Yarsh with Chris Beam in the back

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Speaker 3: of Kyle Yeomans. No Bobby Belt today, he is busy

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Speaker 3: breaking news and working the phone lines for NFL Free Agency,

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Speaker 3: but we will certainly have him back very very soon. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: have you gotten any rest? Specifically you?

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris called it at like ten thirty last night.

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Speaker 4: I got a word, Hey, we're probably done for the day.

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Speaker 4: I was like, good, me too, So here I am.

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Speaker 3: It sounds good. I'm out?

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Speaker 4: No great, I got my eight hours in.

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Speaker 3: What about you, Tommy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't well?

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Speaker 3: Last word?

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Speaker 5: No, I did not, but it's all good. Part of

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Speaker 5: that was my own doing. Oh yeah, I just like

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Speaker 5: typically stay up late anyways.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're a night out. Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. Wotch.

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Speaker 3: How was your free agent frenzy in day one of

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Speaker 3: the legal tampering period?

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Speaker 6: Did a couple of shows, went home, did four videos,

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Speaker 6: then did a live stream. Then I hopped on some

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Speaker 6: of my my YouTube friends last stream, you know, Jay Tuck,

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Speaker 6: the MV and all those guys. So I was busy.

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Speaker 6: I was busy fourteen hour day yesterday. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: the game gonna be the game. You gotta do what

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Speaker 6: you gotta do. And you know check's going clear.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chase, at some point they will, at some point

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Speaker 3: they will. Now your thoughts on what Dallas did in

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Speaker 3: day one? Does it change any of the draft mindset?

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Speaker 3: Since this is a draft show, if you want actual

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Speaker 3: free agent conversations and takes, you can check out all

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Speaker 3: the other content available from watch Nick and Tommy talking

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Speaker 3: Cowboys this morning.

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Speaker 7: But the.

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Speaker 3: Draft mindset now with a starting safety in Jayalen Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Now with another edge rusher, I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: the edge rusher, but a edge rusher in Rashan Gary,

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Speaker 3: then you bring back Sam Williams as well. Anything change

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Speaker 3: across the board.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the need for linebacker just continues to

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Speaker 4: increase here and it almost makes you wonder how aggressive

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Speaker 4: you want to be for a linebacker. Let's say a

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Speaker 4: sunny Styles that you know is probably not going to

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Speaker 4: get to you at twelve. Do you try to be

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Speaker 4: maybe aggressive and go up and get them or are

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Speaker 4: you hoping for a Jacob Rodriguez situation at twenty? Linebacker

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Speaker 4: is a CJ. Allen situation at twenty as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a linebacker has shot up the board as the most

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Speaker 4: important need on this team right now. But I mean

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Speaker 4: you can say the same thing for nickel corner. I

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Speaker 4: got a call from someone yesterday on the Pittsburgh beat

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Speaker 4: because we were going back and forth about a certain

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Speaker 4: trade that we can't talk about in these airwaves, and

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Speaker 4: they were asking about like players that maybe can make sense,

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Speaker 4: and he's like, who's the nickel over there right now?

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Speaker 4: It's like, you want to be the nickel? It could

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Speaker 4: be you. It's also Ready Steward, but they certainly need

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Speaker 4: to hunt down a nickel. I will say the Jalen

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Speaker 4: Thompson ad does give them a lot of flexibility though

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Speaker 4: in the secondary play. So he could play safety, he

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Speaker 4: could play nickel, he could play in the box, and

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Speaker 4: it could kind of be a situation to where you

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Speaker 4: can draft Theeneman or Delane or Terrell or Hood, whoever

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Speaker 4: you want, and it doesn't really impact you, know what.

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Speaker 4: It does impact Thompson where he eventually plays, but you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna have an overlap with Thompson. And I think

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Speaker 4: that was probably the most important thing to take out yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna make the point of safety, like

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Speaker 5: if a Theeneman was still there at twenty from Oregon,

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Speaker 5: I would still take him, or a McNeil Warren from Toledo.

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Speaker 5: I think he can play, even though Nick doesn't and

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Speaker 5: at twenty two. No, Don Barker, beye.

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Speaker 4: The only thing was the other day you were like,

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Speaker 4: I think he's a good player, I just don't think

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Speaker 4: can't play safety, That's what I was asking. I actually

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Speaker 4: like McNeil Warren, I was just asking about your own take,

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Speaker 4: actually don't I have a second round grade on him.

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Speaker 5: I'm sick at you. I'm sick of you anyways. But no,

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Speaker 5: I completely agree with making the sense that linebacker's your

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Speaker 5: biggest need. And I think we talked about on this

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Speaker 5: show at some point the Brown scenario at number six, right,

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Speaker 5: taking those two first rounders, moving up to six and

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Speaker 5: picking up thirty nine. If Sonny Styles is on the board,

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Speaker 5: with where this team is at right now, and even

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Speaker 5: if they get one of these guys in free agency

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Speaker 5: that's still out there, I think I would pull the

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Speaker 5: trigger on that in a heartbeat. And you know, you

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Speaker 5: You can get There are so many corners that you

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Speaker 5: one that we're looking at now too, is corner. Can

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Speaker 5: even if they don't, if they want to the draft,

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Speaker 5: you know, a guy like Chris Johnson from San Diego State,

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Speaker 5: I think would be fantastic there. If Colton Hood from

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Speaker 5: with that. So there are going to be guys that

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Speaker 5: you can get there. If in that scenario, whether it's

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Speaker 6: Ain't changing nothing, nothing at all, changing nothing. Twelve come around.

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Speaker 6: I'm taking the best dude I could possibly get at twelve.

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Speaker 6: I think the board is gonna make you do that.

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Speaker 6: And by the time we get to twenty, the board

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Speaker 6: the best dude at need at twenty and just kind

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Speaker 6: of figure out, you know, whatever later. I mean, just

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Speaker 6: imagine last year with the Cowboys. You know, they didn't

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Speaker 6: get a chance to draft McMillan right and they instead say,

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Speaker 6: but we gotta go get a receiver right now, and

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Speaker 6: maybe they overdraft the receiver and they didn't go true

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Speaker 6: I don't want to overshoot anything. Just go through the

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Speaker 6: draft and like the Cowboys did last year, Hey, y'all

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Speaker 6: draft is over, we still need receiver. Then they'll go

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Speaker 6: and do something afterwards to go address receiver. I just

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Speaker 6: want to go into the draft and get the two

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Speaker 6: best dues at twelve and twenty, that possibly can when

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Speaker 6: we get the one, fourteen and beyond, we'll figure it

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Speaker 6: Same same over me.

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Speaker 3: Does it change anything with the moves you kind of

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Speaker 3: eluded this a little bit earlier, Nick, But does this

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Speaker 3: change anything with the moves they've already made saying, Hey,

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Speaker 3: maybe linebacker is the number one need in the draft,

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Speaker 3: or can they make a move today that changes your

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Speaker 3: go get a corner, if they go get another safety

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Speaker 3: to kind of pair with Jalen Thompson? Are we able

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Speaker 3: to read the tea leaves a little bit on what

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Speaker 3: they're thinking and leaning in terms of what the draft

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they have a thought process as

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Speaker 4: far as, hey, we are going to do this in

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Speaker 4: free agency because the draft is this. I think it is, truthfully,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna go do what we can to free agency.

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Speaker 4: Whatever we can't address, here's the draft. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Completely separate conversation, and so at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: you know, it could look a lot different than it

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Speaker 4: looks right now. I tweeted out last night the only

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Speaker 4: three off ball linebackers on this team right now are

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow and overshown, Shamar James, and Justin Baron. Uh so

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Speaker 4: there's there's.

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Speaker 3: A lot those three guys.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Sean, you mentioned Justin Baron in Indianapolis, and and

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Speaker 4: maybe we should have put more stock into that lee.

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Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, they have to. They have to address

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Speaker 4: this linebacker spot, no doubt. And I look, let's say

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Speaker 4: dock capabilities and you are comfortable with that, they still

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Speaker 4: need to go get a linebacker. And so it's it's

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Speaker 4: not going to change the need there. You know, I

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Speaker 4: still think you it, Rashaan, Gary doesn't change the need

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Speaker 4: if there's an edge there at twelve, it doesn't. And

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Speaker 4: so you know, if there is a Reuben Bain sitting

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Speaker 4: another one out there, I don't know why I'm bling

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Speaker 4: David Bailey if somehow he slips to twelve, Absolutely you're

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Speaker 4: running to the You're you're running that card in So, uh,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily change your needs at all, though?

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Speaker 3: Is that the right way to look at it?

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Speaker 4: Should be I feel like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just making sure.

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Speaker 4: I feel like.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to create conversation about that.

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Speaker 6: That's fine.

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Speaker 5: Devil is so that's a good construction.

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Speaker 6: Like you mentioned, devil is alive.

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Speaker 5: If you get to a point where after the draft

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Speaker 5: is over too and you're sitting there saying, oh, man,

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Speaker 5: we still need a wide receiver. You can still make

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Speaker 5: moves for one. You can still go trade for somebody.

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Speaker 6: Kyle. Let me tell you something. If David Bailey get

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Speaker 6: caught with drugs and his trump and he fall to

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Speaker 6: twelve and teams suck at drafting and Ruben Bang fall

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Speaker 6: to twenty, we just added two edges to the We

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Speaker 6: just added some edges. We need linebacker, we need safety,

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Speaker 6: we need corner. We'll figure it out. But damn dog,

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Speaker 6: we got Bang and Bailey no matter how it falls.

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Speaker 6: I think, and look, I said this before, up to

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Speaker 6: say it again. Man, I don't want to be the

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Speaker 6: coward that's making hypothetical trace it. Oh, let's call Cleveland

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Speaker 6: and get on the phone and go get six and

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Speaker 6: then we'll get stopped. Man, that's that's cool. I imagine

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys gonna stay at twelve if they move cool.

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Speaker 6: I imagine they're gonna stay at twelve. If my last

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Speaker 6: name was Jones McLay, What am I doing there? If

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Speaker 6: I have to sit there and make a p I

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Speaker 6: need linebacker, y'all. But the best players on the board

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Speaker 6: are corner, edge, safety, whatever. Dog. I'm just gonna have

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Speaker 6: to pass on lineback and I figure out linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Later, kind of like what they did with wide receiver

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Speaker 3: last year, and this for George Pickens exactly what they do,

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Speaker 3: same kind of thing. And we're seeing clips of David

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Speaker 3: Bailey here. At some point all of the guys that

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Speaker 3: are locks to be in the top ten, Yeah, big man,

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Speaker 3: touchdown the guys that are gonna be the locks to

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Speaker 3: be top ten. Because there's about fifteen guys that are

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Speaker 3: locked to be inside the top ten. Somebody's gonna fall.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna be the drug in

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Speaker 3: the trunk type of situation that you just make.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to the ed rusher spot, do you

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Speaker 6: Gary is your power rusher now and he's a he's

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Speaker 3: If they're not going to address any other free agent

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Speaker 3: going in of the draft, right, Tommy, because I think

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to because it's the pass rushers that

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Speaker 6: So you point, Kyle, I will say, Gary may not

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Speaker 4: this show, right and Votch very quietly sneaked this to

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Speaker 4: him in the last one, I say, and Timmy, Tommy

437
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 4: pointed it out in the break and so we need

438
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Speaker 4: to call it. We get an address right here, so

439
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 4: tail of the tape right here. Tommy had thrown out

440
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Speaker 4: the Cleveland trade about going up to six and getting

441
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Speaker 4: thirty nine, which not five minutes later, Marty to my

442
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 4: left goes over here says, that's a coward move. So Tommy,

443
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 4: tell him why you're not a coward. Tell him why

444
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 4: standing on the table you are you are not.

445
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 6: A good instigated with his buffer, Bruce Buffer.

446
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Speaker 3: I feel like that was his best Kyle.

447
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 5: I thought that's pretty solid.

448
00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 4: Hey, look, you know you're next. Let him finish.

449
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 6: I'm coming.

450
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 5: You can call me whatever you'd like. I was just

451
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 5: throwing an option out there. I got nothing but love

452
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,399
Speaker 5: for watch. I just hate that I got sneak this

453
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 5: for no reason.

454
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 4: Tell him why it's not cowardly, telling why it's not coward.

455
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 5: I don't think it's cowardly.

456
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 4: Get he's a coward.

457
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 5: You're getting out, he's not. I don't want to disrespect

458
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Speaker 5: my guy.

459
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 6: But you got good, you're talking good.

460
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Speaker 5: You go and get one of the best players in

461
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Speaker 5: the draft. I got no problem with that.

462
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Speaker 6: Tom I wasn't talking about you specifically before the sounded

463
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 6: like it, but for the sake of content. But for

464
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 6: the sake of content, fine, sure. I just don't like

465
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 6: this world where we get uncomfortable. And this is if

466
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 6: you want to be you, but it's to anybody right

467
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 6: where we get uncomfortable with a trace in there or

468
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 6: just a draft board scenario and we go straight to

469
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Speaker 6: all right, if I was in a pff mock or something,

470
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Speaker 6: what would I do? I would trade back and I

471
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 6: hate my dress. I got fifteen picks on them. That

472
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 6: does annoy me because they trade back. That ain't real

473
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 6: life to me. What now, if the Cowboys trade up

474
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 6: or down, We're either gonna be shaking hands, fist pump,

475
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 6: and going to jail whatever. But what I like to

476
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 6: do is I like to get comfortable with the idea

477
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Speaker 6: of I hate picking here. What would I do? You

478
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,880
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I don't think heye Cleveland six overall? Boy, boy,

479
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 6: I know y'all would love sunny Styles right now, we

480
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 6: would too. Would you like the draft later? And look,

481
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 6: give me another one of your picks too, By the way,

482
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 6: give me another one of the day two picks that

483
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 6: you want and six overall? It makes sense on the

484
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 6: trade value chart. But come on, let us get sunny

485
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 6: Styles or downs or something. If I'm Cleveland hanging.

486
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 4: Up the phone, But Cleveland wants to parachute out good

487
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: chucks out to them if they do it, fine, If

488
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 4: I'm Cleveland, I don't know what they own.

489
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 6: Their general manager naming what the name is? I know,

490
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 6: you know, I don't don't worry about it.

491
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 4: That changes every two years because they suck at traffic.

492
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Speaker 6: If my last name was Brown and the Cowboys called

493
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Speaker 6: me with that nonsense, I'm I'm gonna take the best

494
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 6: dude I could get at six at say f off.

495
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Speaker 6: I'm sticking right here. So as cowboy guy, I don't

496
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 6: want to. I don't. I don't. I don't like the

497
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 6: recreational mocks the recreation.

498
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 4: I don't think this is recreational. I think this is

499
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 4: a very valid trade.

500
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Speaker 6: That would you do it?

501
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: Cleveland gets three first round picks of that trade.

502
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Speaker 4: If you was Cleveland, would you do We're not worried

503
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: about Cleve. If you Cleveland. No, but Cleveland that's already missed.

504
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 4: They want to parachute out.

505
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 6: But why wouldn't you?

506
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 4: This has nothing to do.

507
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 6: With if you was Cleveland, if your last name was Brown,

508
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 6: would you do it?

509
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: They have already mette if.

510
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 5: You if you're telling me, I get three first round picks.

511
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 6: If your last name was a.

512
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Speaker 5: Young team and you did, you drafted as well.

513
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 6: I want to find if your last name was Brown.

514
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 5: You were miss three first round picks in this draft

515
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Speaker 5: of this trade you get three.

516
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Speaker 6: Let me lean forward because because Jerry Madland would tell

517
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Speaker 6: me to lean ford Tommy, Yes, sir, you talk on

518
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 6: this show all day about how much you like Styles

519
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 6: and Downs and Bailey and all those guys. You're telling

520
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 6: me you want to trade away from them. Dudes, how

521
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 6: many first round grades you you you have on your.

522
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Speaker 5: Board probably about put me on the spot here.

523
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Speaker 6: Twelve you want to get, you want to get out

524
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Speaker 6: that range you want to go. I think that's the

525
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 6: big point to any other draft. Yeah, Eveland, I'll parachute

526
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 6: out and still gets eighteen first round misconstrued. If I

527
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 6: got eighteen first round grades, they were getting misconstrued. Here.

528
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 4: The question is not if we think Cleveland should the question.

529
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: The question here is if we think the Cowboys should,

530
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: which is a yes.

531
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Speaker 6: I think it's all nonsense and it's a way to

532
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 6: get away from the exercise of we've gotten wiped out

533
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 6: and I want styles real bad. I want Styles real bad.

534
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 6: So let me come up with a scenario to get

535
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Speaker 6: the Browns from moving away from Styles, or to get

536
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 6: the Browns from moving away from Downs. If every draft

537
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 6: is different, I just I just looked it up every day.

538
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 6: The other day. What's my past rushing with the Rams

539
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 6: Florida State where he jeiffvers he was nineteenth Overall, this

540
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 6: draft so different from that. This draft is so differentrom that.

541
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Speaker 6: So if I got twelve first round grades and Mendoza

542
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 6: maybe thirteen, but I ain't looking at quarterbacks or whatever.

543
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 6: I'm the Browns. I'm moving out of the range of

544
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 6: the elite dudes because the Cowboys want one.

545
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 4: Cleveland Brown's known good drafting organization.

546
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.

547
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: It's like they've already mentioned they want to pa.

548
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: If that's the case, get more darts for the dark board.

549
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 6: If I think the opposite, If I'm a team that's

550
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 6: bad as drafting, I probably I'm hitting on the better

551
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 6: dudes since I don't want the picks in the twelves

552
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 6: and twenties where.

553
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 4: I miss I was being sarcastic.

554
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 6: It's cool, we're talking. You know what I'm saying. They

555
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 6: suck at drafting. They probably do, but they probably won't.

556
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 6: They miss on Miles Garrett because it was right therefore

557
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 6: first overall, you would hope so and in this class,

558
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 6: I feel good about six and the Cowboys want to

559
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 6: feel great about six for sure. Man, Please, you don't

560
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 6: have to get what you doing.

561
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: Kyle trying to take pictures of no I to bring

562
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: it into the round so we could get into Twitter

563
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: on the twin.

564
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: Look great, good, good job instigating great fight. Good job

565
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 6: gets back on trade that the referee got in the

566
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 6: mix here.

567
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: Say it was an ad sorry.

568
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 6: Time out for some Twitter. If you were the Brown,

569
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 6: let Chris Bean talk Chris Bean. If you was the

570
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 6: rounds with six overall, would you trade out of your

571
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 6: first round grades for Dallas? What do you say you

572
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't appreciate you being well, I don't think I would either.

573
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: I'm taking three first round picks.

574
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah cool, go go take Peter something while we got.

575
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 5: They need they need quantity and quality not quality.

576
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah uh so. Ismael brings up a conversation with what

577
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: the Cowboys have already done in free agency and with

578
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: the lack of linebackers there. How about a dream scenario

579
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: for you guys and what would end up happening if

580
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: these three names were on the board at twelve or six.

581
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: Maybe it's more likely this is actually more likely at six,

582
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: So let's let's let's throw that in the in the

583
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 3: possible equation to Sonny Styles, Ruben Bain Caleb Downs are

584
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: on the board. So let's say it's at six. Okay,

585
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: so say again, all three those guys with what you've

586
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: already done, adding a safety, adding an edge rusher, Sunny Styles,

587
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: Ruben Baying, Caleb Downs. Who you taking out of that?

588
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 6: Downs is the highest player on my board out of

589
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 6: their groups.

590
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 5: I'm going Downs Downs as well.

591
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah oo, yeah, a little bit of a pause.

592
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: It's just because I've been thinking over the last like

593
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: week and a half, I need to see these second

594
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: check medicals on downs. I know everyone's trying to like

595
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: throw it out and throw it away. It could be

596
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: an agent working overtime, and so that's where I'm having

597
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: a little bit of pause. I'm saying Downs right now,

598
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: but I want to see the second medicals.

599
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 3: And I don't blame you for doing so. We're taking

600
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: a look at some of the Downs film here from

601
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: actually the college football playoff against Miami. But do you

602
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: think at any point on draft weekend it's possible that

603
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: those second medicals start kind of emerging and his name

604
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: does start slipping even further than what Dallas would be

605
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: willing to take it twelve, is there it With the

606
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 3: background of this injury, do you think it's enough to

607
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: scare teams that much?

608
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so. It

609
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: depends on how bad, like how much time he'll miss

610
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: with the partially tornament, because if that's ends up being

611
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: something legitimate. But as we've laid out on the show,

612
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: the potentially degenerative ACL it can mean a lot of things,

613
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: and teams look at that differently, and it just kind

614
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 4: of depends on how the Cowboys look at it at

615
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: the end of the day.

616
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, go ahead.

617
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: Next question is mc wants to know what is everyone's

618
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: thoughts on the capability of Styles possibly wearing a green

619
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: dot in his rookie year. Do you think he has

620
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: that ability based on the conversations that you've had.

621
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: One hundred thousand percent he's worn in the green nott

622
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 4: for the last two years.

623
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 5: I think so completely agree with Nick.

624
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 6: He can do it, but I wouldn't like it. I

625
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 6: wouldn't like it, you know. I'm I'm not the biggest

626
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 6: fan of putting all the responsibility on the young guys.

627
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 6: That's why I like about the Thompson signing for the

628
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 6: for the Cowboys is that the nickel position is supposed

629
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 6: to be the most It's the biggest thing out of everything, right,

630
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to take all that responsibility and put

631
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 6: that on the young guy. I like the idea of

632
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 6: having Thompson, whether it be two or three years, have

633
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 6: along and then whoever the rookie is step in after

634
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 6: that to kind of to take over everything. And I

635
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 6: would say the same by linebacker. But if you wiped

636
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 6: out and you missed all the linebackers in free agents

637
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 6: and you ain't got no damn choice, then yeah, let

638
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 6: let them, let them, let them do it. Let's son,

639
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 6: you do it.

640
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 3: There you go. Small's wants to know how do the

641
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: moves and free agencies affect one through eleven possibly and

642
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: who might end up dropping to twelve? You kind of

643
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: alluded to one or two of those possibilities. Could do

644
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: you mind running through top top one through eleven?

645
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll see this about the Titans. The Titans

646
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 4: surely loaded up on the defensive side of the ball.

647
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: I think that helps you. The Raiders certainly loaded up

648
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, not that they

649
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: would have taken any other than for Dano Bendoza number

650
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: one overall, the Chiefs are going to need a corner,

651
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: so you probably lose a corner at number nine overall.

652
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: Trying to think of some other teams in the mix.

653
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 6: There, Jays probably locked in with Reese.

654
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 4: Probably uh yeah, maybe yeah, yeah, yeah.

655
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 6: What is Arizona need?

656
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: Yes, offensive line, I think that might be where you

657
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: see Malanoa go Malanoa.

658
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: It just depends on which which tackle line they feel.

659
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, either him or Fano.

660
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: Like we're Freeling, I think we've seen Freeling starting to

661
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: get some top ten lone.

662
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Can you tell me about him a little bit. We

663
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: haven't talked about him enough.

664
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Monroe freeling off at the tackle out of Georgia

665
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: has tested off the charts, really consistent, reliable during his

666
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: time in Athens as well. He's just got the required size,

667
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: He's got the more than the required athleticism. I think

668
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: it was a four to nine to one that he

669
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: ran at the combine. And it's a guy that's shooting

670
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: up guys draft or team's draft boards. I could see

671
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 4: him going top ten if a team really falls in

672
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 4: love with him, that you you hope for that for

673
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: the Cowboys ndred percent yeah.

674
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 3: I mean you talk about guys who maybe didn't have

675
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: the same kind of backing as some of the guys

676
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: that have come before him, like a Amarius Mems and

677
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: the Broderick Jones, some of those guys that were one

678
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: year starters at Georgia. He brings that that same kind

679
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: of punch. I really liked watching him play moves laterally

680
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: as well as anybody at the position. His footwork and

681
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: balance are very stout, knows how to mirror really well

682
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage a lot frame doesn't feel

683
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: maxed out quite yet too. I think he could still

684
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: kind of tack on a little bit of extra poundage.

685
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: They're six foot seven and change and he's got some

686
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: He's got some room to grow, could still add some

687
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: more weight and expand that athletic profile is what I

688
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: had here. I said. The hands kind of need a

689
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: little bit more work. He misses his placements out wide,

690
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: especially a couple times it gets ripped away because of it.

691
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: But really good player overall, and like you said, the

692
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: athleticism already off the charts, but he can still add mass.

693
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: And then if he adds mass, and I think it's

694
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: a it's a wash. He's going to be one of

695
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: the better developmental guys in the draft, So somebody needs

696
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: offensive linemen there up in the top ten. I think

697
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: that's a possibility as a.

698
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 6: Wave room too. Let me ask you, what do you

699
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: think him being like not the only, but like one

700
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 6: of the only pure left tackles matter where teams kind

701
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 6: of view him? Yeah, because some teams may have mal

702
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 6: nooez gar, some teams may see Fano as a one

703
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 6: sided guy, or they may not like Procter and his

704
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 6: movement a way.

705
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: Not sure as well. I think you can thrown in

706
00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: the mix.

707
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

708
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 4: I think that plays a big factor into it. And

709
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: if you're looking for a guy that can protect you

710
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: for the long term, I think Monroe Freeling gives you

711
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: that gives you that ability.

712
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 5: To do that.

713
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Where do you have ianchor second round?

714
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 6: I got second round on them.

715
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

716
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: I like him. I like him a lot. I've seen

717
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: a few respecting box that have him going back in

718
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: first round.

719
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: Wow.

720
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm curiously where he ends up playing.

721
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: I keep having he's touching tags with Caleb Lomu from

722
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: Utah with me. I like Lomu a lot as well,

723
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: and I think those two guys kind of have gone

724
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: back and forth.

725
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: For me, you want to know what one thing that'll

726
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 6: really separate how you feel about Max and Caleb is

727
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 6: watch how they both handle the tech guys. Common opponents.

728
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 6: That's a good IDEA common opponent is me. That means

729
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 6: a whole bunch to me and MAXI Honachor kind of

730
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 6: got whooped on a little early, but I feel like

731
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 6: he adapted because he has fantastic feet. By the way, Yeah,

732
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: so he kind of fixed it a little bit later.

733
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 6: Mellow height, I'll say it. So I'm blowing the face

734
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 6: and we onto the next draft. Clayers put hands and feet,

735
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 6: elbows and knees on Lomu and I was like, damn dog.

736
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: Adjust Eddie didn't. But to Fano's point, Fano's had a

737
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 6: really good day against Baylor, so that's why I got Fano. Yeah,

738
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: he did it decent day against ba Bailey still got his,

739
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 6: but it was overt.

740
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: How do you feel at Rome Melo Hype?

741
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 6: I like Mello so much, and I don't care that

742
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 6: he's our age, you know, or my age, because you're

743
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 6: younger than me. I think he has a really good

744
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: feel for how to pass rush and I love nuances

745
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 6: a lot more than other people. Uh, some people like

746
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 6: the actual physical traits more, and I think he has

747
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 6: fantastic physical traits. But he knows how to like set

748
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 6: up rushes. He know, like like you'll you'll watch him

749
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: set something up in the first and second quarter and

750
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 6: then timely in the fourth boom he'll hit you with it.

751
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 6: And I love that so much about any rusher, especially

752
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 6: him because he's twenty nine years, twenty five years. He's

753
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 6: an old dude. And the more the more ball that

754
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 6: you that you play, you just pick up on these things,

755
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 6: you know. So some teams may cove it the twenty

756
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: year old with a lot more room to grow. But

757
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 6: I value Mello a bunch and he's a second round

758
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: guy for me, behind behind Cashes.

759
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: And he'll be he'll turn twenty five out the week

760
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: before the draft. The roote I ask is the six

761
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: years in college, four different institutions. He had a really

762
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 4: good season at Texas Tech, but it didn't really explode

763
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: for him until the year before at Georgia Tech. So yeah,

764
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: I just I wonder about guys who go to four schools,

765
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: you know that that that is concerning I think at

766
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: the next level but I think you see the consistency,

767
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: and you're right. I think he has pass rush plan,

768
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: which I think is what you kind of laid out there,

769
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: and that's really important.

770
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 5: He must in a little bit smaller than y'all thought.

771
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 5: Did he come in a little bit smaller than he thought?

772
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: Six two two thirty four?

773
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's listed at six three to forty on

774
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: Texas Tech website, So yeah, a.

775
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: Little bit that was I mean, it wasn't a deal

776
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: breaker for me. I still I've got a high third

777
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 5: on him. But I mean his priscopersuit is great. I mean,

778
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: he's his motor is fantastic. You've seen it on some

779
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 5: of these clips here. He just is relentless, unfortunately getting

780
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: after my guy Connor Wigman there. But the fact that

781
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: it took until this year really for things to blow up.

782
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: The loan question I have is it did it happen

783
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 5: because of Bailey and Lee Hunter?

784
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 6: Like?

785
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 5: Is that why we started to see him take off

786
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: this year? Regardless? I think technically, technically he's a great

787
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 5: player and you've got the motor to mirror it. But

788
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: that's what we're worrying me and against the bigger, stronger

789
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: tackles is he going to be able to power through it?

790
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: I argue, I would argue that he took off at

791
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech, and he may have done it at UFC

792
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: or USC the year before that, but he had shoulder injuries.

793
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: He missed a lot of time at USC, and so

794
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: I think when it comes to his production, it was consistent,

795
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: and then it may have taken a step forward because

796
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 3: of Lee or a Lee Hunter and because of David Bailey.

797
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: I think they have plenty of opportunities around him, and

798
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: he got a badass linebacker behind you as.

799
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: Well also too, though Kyle and Timmy too, or just

800
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 6: anybody's listening. I play center back in the day right,

801
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 6: and this is the one thing that I hate the

802
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 6: most about my football career. I didn't learn how to

803
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 6: really downblock until the last play of my last game

804
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: that I ever played. You never know when you're gonna

805
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 6: get the moment of Clarity's gonna collect, You never know

806
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 6: what rep is going to be. But there's like this

807
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: little push pull technique that helps with you down block

808
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 6: and whatever. I never understood it, but the last drive

809
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 6: of my last game, I'll never forget it. I cussed

810
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 6: real loud. I was like cuss word. That's it. But

811
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 6: I'm done playing football now, you know what I'm saying.

812
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 6: So in terms of mellow height and how that's in

813
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 6: reference to this convo, he could be a seventh year player.

814
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 6: If you got it, If you got it on that

815
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 6: last year and I see that you got it and

816
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 6: you consistently doing it verse competition, then you got it.

817
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 6: I don't care that you didn't know it your second

818
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: year or your third year. For you, it may just

819
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 6: take longer than somebody else to learn how to do

820
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 6: stuff in a game, because we can learn stuff at practice,

821
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 6: but doing it in a game where it's like muscle

822
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 6: memory and it's on fam that he's doing it, So

823
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 6: shout out to him for doing it at twenty six

824
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 6: or whatever, twenty five years old.

825
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: He just has to be ready hit the ground running

826
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 4: because like look at last year's drift class for example,

827
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 4: like Sophone Revel doesn't have a lot of time because

828
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 4: he's approaching twenty six years old at this point. Shamar

829
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 4: James twenty when he arrived in the building, He's got

830
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: a lot of time to figure it out. So it's

831
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 4: just you know, it's it's it's kind of a juxtaposition

832
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: on age and how you value that in the draft.

833
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 6: Would you guys think that the that the Joneses are

834
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 6: gonna think about the Knicks three to four to five

835
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 6: years for a player as opposed to the next twelve years, Like,

836
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: do y'all think that'll that'll matter here? Like if i'm

837
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 6: if I'm if I have a quarterback that's older and

838
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 6: we feel like our window is three to five years, right,

839
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 6: would I then go And I normally like younger players

840
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 6: and a twelve year outlook, but because of the shorter window,

841
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: now I'll take a dude that's older because we're not

842
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 6: thinking long term for real, we trying to win games

843
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 6: in the next three to five years. Yeah, so mellow

844
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 6: being thirty by the time we at the end of

845
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 6: our window doesn't matter as much to me.

846
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: I think that could play a factor. But they've also

847
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: had success drafting the younger guys early too. I mean

848
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: you think about Tyler Smith and Tyler Booker. Both of

849
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: those guys were young when they were drafted. I mean,

850
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 3: Booker's still young and Tyler too certain extent still young too,

851
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 3: and they've had success. Those are some of their better

852
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: hits in the first round. As of late, So I

853
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 3: think it could kind of go both ways. I see

854
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: what you're saying, and I think yes, in terms of

855
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: what they have in the past, I think they would

856
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: be more open than doing so. Final question for Twitter

857
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: on the twenty Jake wants to know before the combine,

858
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: when wipeout scenarios were discussed, it felt like the fallback

859
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: option was always Jamal McCoy, the corner out of Tennessee.

860
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: But now that we know what his medicals are and

861
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: what is not going to be an option with him

862
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: as a fallback scenario, who else could be the fallback

863
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: in wipeout scenario if the top defensive prospects are gone off.

864
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 6: The board, somebody own offense.

865
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: We've talked about Dylan Tenaman quite a bit. Yeah, so

866
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: Dylan Tenaman, I don't even think that's a wipeout scenario.

867
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 4: I think I'm more than okay with it. Here you

868
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: go twelve, He's gonna end up being my last first

869
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: round grade, Okay, so he may end up being the

870
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 4: last one left on the board when twelve gets around.

871
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 3: Maybe might be who would be your fallback? You said,

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Speaker 3: offensive guy?

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Speaker 6: There don't know, if I don't know, if I just

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Speaker 6: don't want to mess around with the board too much.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. If it's the right tackle

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Speaker 6: from Miami, and I know Terrence just did his thing.

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Speaker 6: Hey man, just take the BIS dudes and figure out later.

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Speaker 6: Take the business. I'm not opposed to going wire. See

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Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not taking the best guy. Carnell Tato

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Speaker 6: be fun here, He'll be He'll be phenomenal. Look at

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Speaker 6: that big face. He'll be phenomenal. Know just what to

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Speaker 6: do with a Carneal Tate tight please see the lamb

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Speaker 6: and gotta lead a slide it y'all crazy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a watch. I think you take the best

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Speaker 5: guy that's there at that point. If you're just completely

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can help us out in that regard. I'd

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Speaker 3: be damn u linebacker draft superlatives who were the most

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Speaker 3: technically skilled, biggest upside linebacker, biggest risk linebacker, and most

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Speaker 3: two first round picks, and one of those right now

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Speaker 3: seems like it is headed straight for linebackers. So let's

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Speaker 3: dive deep into the linebacker position. Let me be very clear,

969
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Speaker 3: this does not have to be first round caliber players.

970
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Speaker 3: This can be any linebacker that you've evaluated at any point.

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Speaker 3: Let's name some linebacker drafts of perlatives. Some of these

972
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Speaker 3: will be self explanatory, other ones will not be, and

973
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Speaker 3: we can go dive deeper a little bit into it.

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Speaker 3: But let's start with the most technically gild linebacker in

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Speaker 3: the draft class that you've watched so far. Tommy, I'll

976
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Speaker 3: let you start.

977
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Speaker 5: It's tough for me, but I'll go with can I

978
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Speaker 5: get to tie? I'll do tie between c. J. Allen

979
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Speaker 5: and Jacob Rodriguez. CJ. Allen from Georgia, Jacob Rodriguez from

980
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Speaker 5: Texas Tech. I mean, George's just been a linebacker factory

981
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 5: for the last decade or so, and CJ. Allen's kind

982
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Speaker 5: of the next in line. And then I know, you

983
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 5: scout the player, not the helmet, but he just is

984
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Speaker 5: always he reads everything very well, He's in the right

985
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Speaker 5: places at the right time, and he just plays the

986
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Speaker 5: position at a really high level. And then Rodriguez too,

987
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Speaker 5: does all those same things. But what sticks out about

988
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Speaker 5: Rodriguez is his punch for the ball, his constant seeking

989
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Speaker 5: of trying to get his hands on it. You see

990
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Speaker 5: the pass break up there, but his technique in trying

991
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 5: to knock the ball free and always making a play

992
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 5: on it and punching at it is phenomenal. And that

993
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: production certainly flourished last season for Texas Tech. You just

994
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 5: see him his eyes right there on that play too. Unfortunately,

995
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: picking off my guy Connor Wigman again, Why so many

996
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: Conor wi low lights Man. He was fantastic last year.

997
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 5: Houston quarterback six round next year. Okay, yeah, first overall,

998
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: but yeah, I would go with with those two guys.

999
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Speaker 5: I think they do it really well.

1000
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 4: I am going to roll with Tory and York linebacker

1001
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: out of Texas A and m not only uh, some

1002
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: of the lowest mistackle numbers in the entire class at

1003
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 4: the linebacker position. But you look at his coverage and

1004
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: he is so sound in the middle of the field.

1005
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: He's green dotted that Texas A and M defense. He

1006
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: came in as like a throw in recruit at Texas

1007
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: A and M very late in the process, just because

1008
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 4: they had a spot open up, and he immediately played

1009
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: as a freshman and got All SEC Freshman Team honors.

1010
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 6: Uh.

1011
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: This this guy can handle communication in the middle.

1012
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 6: Uh.

1013
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: He understands passing lanes. He understands zone and man coverage.

1014
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: He can play in the slot and man up on

1015
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: your tight ends or some of your bulkier compact slots

1016
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: that we see.

1017
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: Now.

1018
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: He's not the biggest guy in the world, and that's

1019
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: what eventually.

1020
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: You can say, what he's small.

1021
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Speaker 6: He's small.

1022
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's small. Yeah, I wasn't trying to get around here.

1023
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 6: I'm not the biggest guy in the world. Yeah, he is.

1024
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 4: Small seven, So like the five ten's really gonna hurt him.

1025
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: But his film is fun.

1026
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: He's iven pace, he is iron pace. I think a

1027
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 4: little bit souped up. I think he's gonna get drafted

1028
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 4: to a team that somebody. He's gonna draft him later

1029
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: than he should be drafted, and he's gonna start, and

1030
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: he's going to be really effective, and everyone's gonna look

1031
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: around and be like, how did we let this guy slip?

1032
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: It's because he's two inches smaller than everyone else. This

1033
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: is a football player. I am a huge torri in

1034
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: York guy. So most technical, absolutely, I'm going with the

1035
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: Temple Texas products.

1036
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Speaker 6: Yoga is nice. I'll pivot because I was gonna say

1037
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 6: York Josiah Trotter from Missouri. But him navigating blocks is

1038
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: the more technical side. A lot of guys don't like

1039
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 6: dealing with blockers at all. I see him use hands,

1040
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 6: I see him get leveraged. I see him staying square.

1041
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 6: I see him not really trying to dodge and get

1042
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 6: out the way or whatever. I also see him just

1043
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 6: identifying things and just beating offensive linemen to the landmark.

1044
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Speaker 6: So I will say Joe Sie trot I'm a big,

1045
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 6: big fan of.

1046
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: Okay, great names across the board, most athletic linebacker in

1047
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Speaker 3: the class.

1048
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: Styles yet to be, It's got to be.

1049
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: It's a freak show.

1050
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: I'll just throw one in day three. He's not more

1051
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: than styles but Kalb alarms Or out of tc he

1052
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 4: had a huge combine.

1053
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: I like him a lot. I think he'd be a

1054
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: great option for Dallas to double dip because right now

1055
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 3: I think they are going to probably spend a first

1056
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: round pick on linebacker. It kind of seems that way.

1057
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: Tell me a little bit about him as we take

1058
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: a look at some of the film.

1059
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 4: Here, Nick, Yeah, athletic, and he's handled communication in the

1060
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 4: middle for tc as well. He's a five year player

1061
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 4: at for the horn Frogs, and you talk to people

1062
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 4: at TCU and this is one of their big defensive

1063
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: leaders as well. There was a point in time last

1064
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: year where it looked like this season was really going

1065
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: to get tanked for the horn Frogs, and guys like

1066
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: Kaleb alarms Or really started to come up big and

1067
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 4: ended up getting recognized by the Big twelve at the

1068
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: end of the season for his play. He's fantastic player.

1069
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 4: I wonder about his size at the next level. He's

1070
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: a little narrow, narrowly built, and I wonder if that

1071
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: narrow frame can actually work on a down to down

1072
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: basis in the NFL. But the athleticism is certainly there.

1073
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Top ten in the FBS and tackles this last year.

1074
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: But he wasn't always kind of that guy. I mean

1075
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: he took advantage of his opportunity after waiting his turn

1076
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: for two seasons at California, turned around from cal after

1077
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 3: having ninety two tackles in twenty twenty three, went to TCU.

1078
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: Was the backup there off the bench in thirteen games.

1079
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: But then once he got his chance to start, one

1080
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty tackles, top ten in the FBS in

1081
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: that category. He had eleven tackles for lost four sacks. Rangey, athletic,

1082
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: second level guy who can cover. I like everything he

1083
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: brings there. And you talk about TCU. I was there

1084
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 3: this weekend for a baseball series and I asked one

1085
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 3: of them, sorry, I'm throwing.

1086
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Speaker 4: Water bottles ut on the ESPN contract.

1087
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 7: It was not.

1088
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: It was a fill in radio gig. But the team works,

1089
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: multipower works. Let me see you watch today was the

1090
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: christ today? It's just a shiny Yeah. I'm waiting for

1091
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: a text mester, just the no. I asked somebody at

1092
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: TCU that works for their football program, and he was

1093
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: the first name out of their mouth. I asked him

1094
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: about who are some of the guys that you liked

1095
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: working with in the past, and he was the first guy.

1096
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: So keep an eye on the alarms orror out out

1097
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: of TCU. I know I've struggled to say his name

1098
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: a couple of times in the past, but I've got

1099
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: it down because now that I've watched him, he is

1100
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: a dude. All Right, there's the most athletic linebackers in

1101
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: the draft. What about the biggest upside out of the linebackers.

1102
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 6: In the draft, Jay Shawn Barr Probably Michigan. Yeah, yeah, Michigan.

1103
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 6: And you know, he may have upside as a as

1104
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 6: a rusher, So depending on how you want to look

1105
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 6: at what's upside for him. But like, he's technically an

1106
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 6: edge guy, but on my board, I have him as

1107
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 6: a linebacker. I watched his last year film. I think

1108
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 6: he's I think he's damn good at linebacker, but Michigan

1109
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 6: moving for whatever reason, they put him on the edge.

1110
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 6: They let him rush, and I think he's a cool

1111
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 6: rusher with some upside. So I would imagine the more

1112
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 6: he plays linebacker and the more that he rushes, you know,

1113
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 6: sometimes I think he can get better at both. So

1114
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 6: I got Jay Sean Barm Michigan.

1115
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw Anthony Hill in here just because we've

1116
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: got a lot of room. I think he has round

1117
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 4: upside and I take your guy. Yeah, absolutely, and both

1118
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: of you guys, I'm sorry. He has first round upside

1119
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 4: for sure in my opinion, and I wonder if a

1120
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 4: team gets crafty with what they can do with him

1121
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 4: off the edge at the next level. Injuries really battled

1122
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 4: him this last season. I don't know if he's your

1123
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: green dot middle guy, but I think if you can

1124
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 4: give him a role where he's versatile playing off the edge,

1125
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: being able to fill running lanes, I think he can

1126
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: be your guy for sure. I just don't know if

1127
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: he can be that coverage linebacker you necessarily need, and

1128
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: I think that's where the big concerns have stemmed from

1129
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 4: Anthony Hill. But I hope a team finds a good

1130
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: hybrid role for him to where he can rush the

1131
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: passer because I think that's where he's going to be

1132
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: his best at the next level. So that's where I

1133
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 4: think I find the upside for him.

1134
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not even gonna try and find another argument there.

1135
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 5: I'm going to agree with and they can just go

1136
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: Anthony Hill this guy's been fantastic as an athlete, dating

1137
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: back to his days at Denton Ryan. I remember calling

1138
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: a game of his his junior year and he took

1139
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 5: snaps at wildcat running back, took a play sixty yardsdeline

1140
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: against College station. So this is a guy that, yeah,

1141
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 5: if you put him in the right position to succeed

1142
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 5: and you take advantage of his athletic traits. Sure you

1143
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: may not ask him to do all the you know,

1144
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: typical linebacker e stuff every single down, but he's just

1145
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: a good football player when when he's putting position to succeed.

1146
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 5: I thought he had a really solid year in his

1147
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 5: last year at Texas, but they trusted him every year

1148
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: that he was there to play meaningful snaps and he

1149
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 5: showed up in big time moments. So is there stuff

1150
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 5: to work on, Yes, but I think he can he

1151
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: can be a really plus player for somebody at the

1152
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 5: next level.

1153
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 3: You're not going to get on the Tommy for working.

1154
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: I mean he was calling games of him in high

1155
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: school when Tommy was probably.

1156
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 6: You're a contract.

1157
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 3: And you have multiple you get hill.

1158
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: You don't want that brought it up.

1159
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: Chill out all right, big dynamite. Why did I get

1160
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 4: it move on.

1161
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 3: Knicks calling FC Dallas this weekend. I think soccer biggest

1162
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: risk of the linebacker class, biggest risk, biggest risk across

1163
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: the board. Tommy, you can start this one if you

1164
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: if you want, so that way's stolen.

1165
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 6: I'll say this with a lot of context. I think

1166
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 6: some people gonna look at CJL and be like, I

1167
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 6: don't think he is tall enough, I don't think he

1168
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 6: runs well enough, and they're just gonna move on from him,

1169
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 6: and he might be like the best dude in the

1170
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 6: whole damn class in five years. So that's risky, like

1171
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 6: in my mind because even on my board, right, I'm going, yeah,

1172
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 6: I love man, but but there is this guy, got

1173
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 6: more range, got more linked, and I love to tape

1174
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 6: like the tape don't lie by him. So I ultimately

1175
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 6: put him over some of those guys with better athleticism,

1176
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 6: like he'll or gold there something like that. But I'm

1177
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 6: so up and down about it because the film is phenomenal,

1178
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 6: but we just never know when we when we get here.

1179
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 6: But I think that's risky.

1180
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 5: I'll go with Harold Perkins from LSU.

1181
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,959
Speaker 4: He act, oh no, he actually got okay?

1182
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, look I love Harold Perkins.

1183
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 5: He went to high school five minutes on the street

1184
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 5: from me, and I watched him play growing up, and

1185
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 5: he is fantastic at getting after the past. Is not

1186
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 5: a contract. I went to high school.

1187
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 6: You don't work for him.

1188
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 5: Don't get contracts for going to school.

1189
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish actually some of them. Now, I was never.

1190
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 5: Talented enough in any facet, but yeah, Harold Perkins is

1191
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 5: his freshman year at LSU. He just completely took the

1192
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 5: country by a storm as an All American player, just

1193
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: completely wreaking havoc on quarterbacks. And he can still do that.

1194
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 5: I really do believe that, even after the ACL injury

1195
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 5: a couple of years back. I really do think he

1196
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 5: can do that. But a team is going to really

1197
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 5: have to have a solidified plan for how they use him,

1198
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 5: whether it's just straight as a third down linebacker that

1199
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 5: gets after the quarterback, or whatever else they may ask

1200
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 5: him to do. There's going to need to be a

1201
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 5: plan to take kind of similar to Anthony Hill, where

1202
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: you're going to need to capitalize on his skill set

1203
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 5: because what he is best at is what he's doing

1204
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 5: right here, inching up towards the line of scrimmage. Whenever

1205
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: they snapped this ball and getting after the quarterback. Of

1206
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 5: course that's the play he bats down to pass, but

1207
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 5: it's that that's what he does best. How much can

1208
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 5: you get him to do that consistently? Because when he

1209
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 5: gets in the backfield, it's hard to get away from him.

1210
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: Can I just give the best value?

1211
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 10: Guy?

1212
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: Since he took my biggest risks? Are we going to

1213
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 4: do best value? I saw you skipped it on the list?

1214
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: Did I biggest value?

1215
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

1216
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you biggest?

1217
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1218
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: Sorry, I didn't mean to skip it.

1219
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: This is this is what I saw at the combine.

1220
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 4: And I've gone back and watched a little bit more

1221
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 4: of and oh my goodness, there's a lot of stuff

1222
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: to love from this guy. Buffalo linebacker Red Murdoch. He's

1223
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: going to be a Day three guy. Go and watch it.

1224
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: Wants some violent tape, You want some sound tape? Red Murdoch,

1225
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 4: line linebacker and from from from.

1226
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 6: Buffalo Black Rid is crazy?

1227
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that that is crazy too. He's got a

1228
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 4: little red on his beard though. That's what's crazy about

1229
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: it as well.

1230
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 6: Well. His name is Khalil.

1231
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: Maybe the red came from the bit and the beard then,

1232
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 4: but Red Murdock, Guys, we look back to the last

1233
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 4: two seasons combined two hundred and ninety eight tackles, seven sacks,

1234
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 4: and thirteen forced fumbles. This guy's this guy's a violent piece.

1235
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

1236
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: And I thought the athleticism't backed it up at the combine.

1237
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: I I Day three absolutely take a swing here. Absolutely.

1238
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 6: See. I thought Rid was like, you know, you know,

1239
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 6: just watching like old westerns and stuff, like somebody named

1240
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 6: like after the Cowboys. Yeah, but his nickname is Rid.

1241
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

1242
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 3: There have been some pretty good Khalils to come out

1243
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: of Buffalo in the past.

1244
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for certainly, so certainly.

1245
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: So that's interesting. Red Murdoch, I haven't watched him yet.

1246
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back and watch it was a Shrine

1247
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: Bowl guy though he was on the Shrine Bowl roster. Okay,

1248
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 3: biggest risk or biggest risk or biggest value?

1249
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 6: Watch which one you got value? Shoe man, I'll just

1250
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 6: go back to a guy that we talked about early

1251
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 6: because I'm running out of name. It's real because when

1252
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 6: you when you when you think value, I'm thinking about

1253
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 6: guys that are Day three ish, and I don't have

1254
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 6: a bunch of Day three guys that I like, uh,

1255
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: but like Tori and York Like. I think he's gonna

1256
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 6: be a Day three guy, but I think he's the

1257
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 6: absolute best Day three guy. That's that's that's out there

1258
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 6: right now, so it'll it'll probably have to be him.

1259
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 6: I got Elliott written down, but I don't know who

1260
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 6: that is. I got he's nice. He's nice. I take

1261
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 6: that back. That's my value guy. He's a stud versus

1262
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 6: probably yes, he he died. He diagnosed as well, deals

1263
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 6: with trash stout verse versus blockers. Lines up to the outside,

1264
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 6: lines up on the interior, just put some kind of

1265
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 6: wherever you want to put him at. Doesn't have the

1266
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 6: best athleticism. He may be a dude in coverage that

1267
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 6: you can whoop up on. But if it's Day three,

1268
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 6: you're either good in coverage and small or you're great

1269
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 6: somewhere else, but you're bad in coverage because you're not

1270
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 6: the best athlete in the world. But if you're a

1271
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 6: team like the Cowboys, and he may play some edge

1272
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 6: for you, some edge sometimes for you because he's a

1273
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 6: guy that has like some real pass rush upside to him.

1274
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 6: I like he sean Elliot a whole bunch. Thank you

1275
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 6: Nick for the name. Let me put that. Put that

1276
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 6: my notes real quick's.

1277
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: Your big gest value?

1278
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 5: Good Jack Kelly b Yu. I just think he's a

1279
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 5: sound player.

1280
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: Another Shrine or Senior Bowl guy.

1281
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, capped in the last two years for the Cougars.

1282
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 5: They were they missed him a lot on defense. He's

1283
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 5: done with some injuries later in the year. I think

1284
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 5: it was the Big twelve Championship game against Sexist Tech

1285
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: where he wasn't available and they certainly missed him there.

1286
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if this is going to

1287
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: be your your every down green dot, but he's going

1288
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: to be able to play good, solid snaps for you,

1289
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 5: especially on special teams, so he'll help you on special team.

1290
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 5: He gets after the quarterback there like you see a

1291
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 5: little bit. But I think he climbs off of blocks

1292
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 5: really well. He doesn't bounce back very much when he's hit,

1293
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 5: and good speed to cover the rest of the field

1294
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 5: and bring down guys. Sorry Roch, now I've completely lost

1295
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 5: my train of thought. Yeah, Jack Kelly just alid solid

1296
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: overall player. He doesn't get so you see him slipping

1297
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 5: away from the block there on that last play, doesn't

1298
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 5: get faced by that much. He's strong at the point

1299
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: of attack. Can run east to west and north and south.

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00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting here watching film because I haven't seen

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00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 3: him yet, so I'm watch the ability that he's got

1302
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: with the speed to I mean, with the size that

1303
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: he's got. I mean he's got plenty of h I

1304
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: mean he's got wide, broad shoulders. He's a downhill player.

1305
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: Looks like it looks like they played him a ton

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00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: of different spots. I mean you see him as a middle,

1307
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: you see him as an outside, you see him on

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: the ball, you see him off the ball, using him

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: in a number of different ways. So good value there

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00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: for for the b YU linebacker. All right, Last, but

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00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: certainly not least most likely in the linebacker class to

1312
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: become a Dallas cowboy? Who is the most.

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00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 5: Likely sunny styles because they're packaging moving.

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 6: Up to six.

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00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 3: They're not being cowards, They're.

1316
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 5: Going getting them no cowardly stuff here?

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00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: Is that actually your answer?

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: No, as it stands today, I would say C. J.

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00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 4: Allen Georgia, I say this was a grain of salt

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00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: because most likely it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

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00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 4: But I say C J. Allen just because there's experience

1322
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: on the staff with C. J. Allen and Chideo Zotaibe

1323
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: coming from Georgia, and that's a guy who can step

1324
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 4: in a beer greened dot immediately, a guy for the

1325
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 4: Georgia defense last year who was actually calling the plays.

1326
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: And I think you need that type of You're gonna

1327
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 4: need that type of intelligence in the middle there.

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00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 6: Aiden Fisher, because he's gonna play kickoff of something because

1329
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 6: the boys gonna wait to It is very cowboys, but

1330
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 6: they're gonna wait to the sixth round or something to

1331
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 6: take him Aiden Fishing lineback in the end.

1332
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 4: Okay, I can ask a quick one. I know we

1333
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: have to get out of sure. Two years ago this

1334
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 4: team needed a running back, they didn't draft one. Last

1335
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: year they needed a receiver, they didn't draft one, which

1336
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: is the position they don't draft this year.

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00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 3: Wat should be linebacker on defense. Just is position of need,

1338
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: position of glaring need. I think it would be most

1339
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: likely in that area would be linebacker.

1340
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: We're gonna go nickel corner.

1341
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of got one yesterday, so maybe that's

1342
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 3: probably like you could use him in that spot every

1343
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 3: once in a while with Jalen Thompson. But yeah, I

1344
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 3: can see that too. All Right, That does it for

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Speaker 3: us here on the Draft Show for Vox Lombardi, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Yarish, Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yoman

1347
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: saying so long from the Draft Show, not talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna make that move I did, I started.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you on Thursday. More of the Draft Show here.

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