WEBVTT - Can Anyone Rap with the N-word? (Fat Joe recap) 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.560 Hey, y'all, Hey, what's up and welcome the Legs Red 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:06.680 Table that. I'm Tracy t Row and I'm Cora Presley. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.440 What episode listen to? Legendary? How are you feeling about 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.120 Fat Joe and his interview or Red Table Talk? Tracy, 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:18.040 I feel like I could have listened to another hour 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.640 of Fat Joe. Fat Joe. Let me just tell you 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.159 a storytelling King Fat Joe. When I say I was 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.120 all in, he gave us like visualization of things. It 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.440 was just so rich and not just the storytelling, but 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.240 what he shared it was just good. He's a legend. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:39.080 First of all, can't we just say that Fat Joe 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.239 is a hip hop dang on legend. We're tipping our 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.120 hat to you and giving you your flowers while you're here, 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.520 and we appreciate you. Cara. We have lost some people 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.000 in hip hop world. We have rest and peace take off. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:56.240 That is new Nipsey. I mean, it's hard, So that's 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.680 why it was it's better sweet to see him at 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.560 the table because I'm glad he's still have living legend 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.440 in here. But on top of it, we just have 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.440 so many that we lost at the same time. So 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.520 we want to just say from our virtual red Table 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.560 to the family, friends and fans of all those who 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.800 have been lost in the hip hop world. Our sincere 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.120 sympathy to you, because we know that they mean a 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:20.319 lot to us as artists, but we know they mean 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.640 so much more to you as your family members and 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.959 your friends, and so we just want to acknowledge that. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.759 And I think Fat Joe got an opportunity to say 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:33.119 that when it came to Big Pon and definitely indicated 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.000 how much of an impact they had on their lives 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.200 and how he still is trending up the next generation. 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.480 I mean him discovering something I didn't listen. He talked 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.280 about so many things we didn't know. Let's talk about 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:46.760 some others. DJ Keller was a little mind blowing from me. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:48.600 Maybe that's just shows how much I don't pay attention 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.480 to hip hop like I thought I did, But you 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.320 didn't know. I like that I didn't know. I did 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.360 not know how to clue. So one of the things 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.480 that I loved about his conversation. First of all, back 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.400 in the day, when you saw a Big Pon, you 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.440 saw that Joe right, it was like it was a 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.840 tool for right. The Terance Squad. They were just they 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.240 were dominating back into day and Remy mall loved her 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.880 to Remy Ma, come on here, yes, please thank you 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.880 for acknowledging you know the queen we got to talk about. 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.280 I just appreciate the fact that he was like, I 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.280 discovered DJ Khalen and he's like a brother to me, 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.200 and I'm so happy for him. And then he was like, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.040 but now DJ Kalen is doing He's got greater success, right, 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:32.040 And I was, God, hold on, I thought, let's have 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.440 a conversation here. And I love that he took it 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.000 beyond him having a spiritual connection, right and literally went 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.040 to d J Kalen was like, dude, I just had 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.320 a conversation with God, and I love that he is 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:49.040 the greatest. God is the greatest, and come on, DJ Kalett. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.920 But really the anchor that they both have their spirituality, 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.440 because if you look at Fat Joe, for everything that 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.200 he's gone through, he didn't plan any of that was 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.919 all and so much stuff that it was a shot 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.480 in front of his mom left home at fourteen, I mean, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:11.280 just smashing a bottle over. Somebody's going to prison, and 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.960 how they put him in solitary confined to keep him safe, 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.880 and he was like, also, how he turned to the arts, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.960 he turned to the graffiti, he turned to the music. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.639 And he's still an authentic person, even from the way 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.720 he loves his wife to the way he defended a 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.000 SHUNTI I mean so many things. Okay, so now we 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.680 got to talk about both of those cars. So let's 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.280 take it in the order you said it. Yes, first 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.240 of all, his wife is gorgeous. But there was one 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.560 particular moment when he started talking and it was truly 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:48.160 like being at someone's holiday table. The red table turned 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.000 into like the cookout table when he was talking and 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:57.280 Willow was like, oh Willow was right, like she had 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.520 to hinge, like, oh my gosh, I don't want hear 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.120 adults talking about other adults in their body parts, and 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.840 he was, can I just be honest here? And I 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.760 love He shook Willow's arm and her shoulder. He was 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.320 like it was high as it was a fat ass, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:14.640 and she was just like, oh that I love those 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.359 stays her ground. But baby, she was not that, like 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.400 it was uncle fat Joe, like it was uncle Joey 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.600 at the table. She was like, I do here it 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.400 is I absolutely loved seeing Willow in that position. It 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.039 was sweet to see like they were family and like 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.400 she was a kid, even though I know she's gone. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.720 And then I'm gonna tell you the way he stood 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.440 up for a shanty. Oh yeah, necessary, But were even 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.160 him telling the story about how he stood up for 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.480 his wife. First, he has an authentic connection with women, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.240 and he said that, he said that we are powerful. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.640 He loves us. Shout out to you, fat Joe, stands 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.240 up for your wife against her ex and standing up 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.680 for a shanty in the middle of the interview controversy, 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.839 even when he said how ev got his face changed? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.120 He was telling him, this is my sister. But there's 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.200 so many people out here who lie and may be 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.559 fairy telling us y'all come on here, y'all be lying 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.320 to us, and we people just don't believe. Oh there 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.520 are some people who actually still respect with me. Yes, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.680 And he meant it like that's his sister and he 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.880 loves her and protected her. And I'm grateful that he 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.800 stood up and spoke the truth about that and called 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.800 her gotty out. But it was about a shanty, And 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.360 can you imagine how seen affirmed and loved the shanty 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.560 felt in that moment? That part. Listen, somebody said a 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.520 shanty might be at the table, so come on here 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.400 because we can't wait. We're gonna have to see I 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.680 cannot wait. Love her. No, this was a great episode. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.360 I'm grateful he came to the table, and I'm gonna 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.760 tell you something else. It was nice to have someone 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.279 who still had trauma, who still went heartache, but the 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.920 way that he shares it, there was still so much 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.159 light in it, and I think for this season it 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.560 was necessary to be able to have a moment where 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:04.680 we could see, right, just a good positive episode. Not 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.000 that the others aren't positive and informative, but this was 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.640 a nice, lighthearted episode. I'm excited about his memoir and 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:17.040 I'm excited about just what's next. Now it's time to 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.960 share what our online Red Table Talk community has to 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:25.479 say about this episode. Amy Perry said, so amazing. I 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.320 love to hear his stories and his way of telling us. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.719 It's so captivating. I said he was a storyteller, and 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.359 I'd seal the table and save it. Don't touch that 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:40.039 table again, add I love that I do too, Amy, 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.560 I'm with you, and we are happy to also hear 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:47.200 from Leslie Shade. Lastly, said, this was really an amazing interview. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.240 I'm so glad that Joe decided to let his hair 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.080 down and allow fans and everyone to see the man 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:57.359 he has become. Appreciate these r t t s great interview. 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.560 It really was a great interview. Yes, they had done 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.320 a part two with him, you know, he could come 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.360 on back. I love it. Okay, And last, but not least, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.800 Tiffany Spencer Gert said, I met Fat Joe about fifteen 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.960 years ago and a teeny holding the Wall Italian Restaurant 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.680 in Little Italy in New York City. He was with 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.080 his crew, but was super cool and took a picture 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.720 with me. Seemed like a humble guy. You know, I 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.480 love a good story. I love a good behind the scenes. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.559 I totally see him being like, yeah, come on getting 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.560 this picture from that. You know, I totally see him 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.040 doing that. I love that. I mean you can feel 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:34.080 his genuine humbleness from him being at the table and 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.720 just the way how he loves women in his life, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.200 and you know how he talked about his daughter and 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.280 his wife. I mean, he's just I really like Fat Joe. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:46.200 Thank you guys for sharing your fantastic comments for us 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.200 on the Red Table Talk community to keep them coming. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.239 We love hearing from you. We're gonna take a quick break, 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.440 but when we get back, we'll be joined by our 0:07:53.520 --> 0:08:02.440 incredible guest. UM super excited to welcome Radio Blitz or 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.360 just Radio B to the virtual Red Table. He is 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:10.920 a friend, MC songwriter, platform builder, fashion designer, and so 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.480 much more right here from my hometown of Richmond, Virginia. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.160 Radio B is joining us because he is a rap 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.680 artist like Fat Joe, and he's going to share what 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.840 he calls Fat Joe a pioneer. So welcome to less 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.640 Red Table. That Radio be welcome. Thanks for having me. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.920 I appreciate it. YEA not a problem. I can't wait 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.200 to get into this one. Super excited like you had 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.560 the one like one of the best bios ever, Radio B. Right, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:36.760 you had to take a good long breath to get 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:50.199 all that out that. I love that. This is a 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.640 part of the show where we reveal which moments made 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.079 us pause, rewind and listen again. It's time for Wait 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.960 What Wait? I love o wait What segment. It's one 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.000 of my favorite seconds in the show. We had a 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.360 lot of good ones with Fat Joe bringing to the 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.720 dog on Red Table, but let's see the first one, 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.400 Fat Joe revealing his first nickname and the story behind 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.760 how he got it. Okay, Joey Crack, where did that 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.720 name come from? Joey Crack. The way I got Joey 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:21.480 Crack was before the drug crack, when the teacher would 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.800 ask me to go to the chalkboard and write something. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.840 I always had like sweats like I'm wearing, and the 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.920 crack of my ass was shot, and so the girls 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.360 would be like, good, Jeey crack, Joey, and it just 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.760 stood my name. I had it. I made it my 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.640 graffiti name, and then it turned into my rap name. Okay, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:45.240 Joey Crack had me rolling, y'all, Joey Crack. I ain't 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:49.319 see that, Okay, I honestly would have never guessed that 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.880 a kid would have been named Joey Crack unless he 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.000 was selling crack number one. That's what I was going, okay, 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.720 And I think everybody thought that right that It was like, Okay, yeah, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.480 it's because you're selling crack, But it was because they 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:08.080 saw the asset crack. Hello, let's it's hard. Let's it's hard. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.920 Radio Beat. Listen, you have a nickname, Radio Beat? How 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:15.119 do nicknames really play a part in hip hop nicknames. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.160 It's a part of our culture, just especially Black folk 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.079 culture in general. Just be good for a nickname. But 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.800 they stick or they don't stick. But the ones that stick, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.440 it doesn't really matter why you got it, it's there 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.200 for life. Got so and don't you find that the 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.079 nicknames are usually somebody making fun. Yeah, for sure, especially 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.480 when it comes to family and family giving you a nickname. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.280 With him, I think that nickname hadn't evolved meaning over 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.480 time if you know anything about Joe. But it's interesting 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.880 that he had enough confidence to actually take what nickname 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.640 came from someone joking on him and owning it. That 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.800 was dope. I think he was still owning it because 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.040 I don't know if it's saw it, but he was 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.000 still showing a little bit of the crack of his 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.920 assets at the take. I missed that. You said it 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.920 was in there. I didn't see that. I'm telling you 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.520 go back. I was like, Okay, Joey Crack, you're still 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.000 living after this? I see there you go, bless It's hard. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:11.920 He's had a heck of a journey though, I mean 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.240 he's told a lot of stories. This goes into our 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.080 next Wait, what his story about standing up to his 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.320 dad and leaving home at fourteen because of it. One 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.560 day my father went to hit me. We was eating 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.160 and I court it boom, and then he went to 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:29.960 kick me. I grabbed his legs. I had him like 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.480 hanging upside down. So I was a big four teen 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.360 So I tell him in Spanish, you can't put me 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.800 no more. You can't put me no more with this 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.200 kind of experience, Have you leaving home in fourteen or 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.040 do you know anyone who's experienced that radio I was 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.640 kind of young for me to even think about. I 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.120 can't say that that type of experience would have me 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.679 leaving home. I can say that I've related to those 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.000 types of experiences, and I can say that it can 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.720 lead you to wanting to leave home. What I thought 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.679 was interesting about that was he didn't leave home because 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.240 he was forced to, you know what I mean after 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.120 that incident. It was more so like the respect that 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.240 he had for his father. You know what I'm saying, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.560 even amidst the circumstances as they were, was just like, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.360 you know, I crossed the line and I'm embarrassing. I'm 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.800 shamed by that, and I just need to know that 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:26.600 way for it. Yeah, right, this episode was super transparent. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.520 I don't think I expected the story that he was giving, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.040 but when he did say he ran out and well 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.280 after he confronted his father, and I've experienced that with 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.520 my son. They buck up at you because they're trying 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.200 to they're in a moment of survel or I gotta 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.840 stand up for myself, but they're still kids in their hurt. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.720 So I appreciated him being that transparent. So we could 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.840 hear that absolutely. When he decided to leave home of fourteen, 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.480 he started getting exposed to a whole another world of things. 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.920 That's how he found out that the world is cold. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.200 He ended up having the whole experience and really his 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.640 nickname Joey Krack went from cracking the but to crack 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.359 something else right, A right, like you cracked that glass 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.319 across that guy's head. It was a lot, and so 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.640 it made him. It was a turning point for him. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.600 I think it was a really pivotal moment in his 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.720 life when he left home because he had to fend 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.600 for himself. He went from being a fourteen year old 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.760 child to being in the position where he had to 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.920 become a man. Radio. Why do you think as far 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:24.360 as young men who transition into music used situations like 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.120 confronting their parents or even the story he told about 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.199 his heart turning cold. I often thought about those parts 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.000 in different men's life, like how does that truly impact you? 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.320 Do a lot of men have a moment where they're like, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:40.400 this is it, I'm no more nice guy? Right? Yeah? 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.520 The loss of inno sence I think happens to humans 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.160 across the board, right, men, women, I think with men, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.360 because we have pride, we have ego, we're taught that 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.600 we have to be able to be strong and defend 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.439 ourselves and not to be weak. So it kind of 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.400 puts you at these forks in the road where it's 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.760 either I handled this way or I go another direction 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.400 and go at my own I think it's important to 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:10.079 kind of consider what time period that was. And this 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.240 is New York, and this is really the eighties, right, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.319 like the eies, so people were growing up really fast. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.200 If you listen to any of the rap music from 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:24.360 that time period eighties early nineties, you wouldn't believe Nas 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.840 was like eight seventeen, eighteen years old, right. Just the 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.360 way that he's telling the stories and what he's seeing 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.400 and the knowledge and wisdom that he's applying to this. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.920 A lot of people were raising themselves during that time frame. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.640 So for him to feel the need to say, Okay, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.560 I'm gonna leave and go out on my own wasn't 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.600 really boring. It was I'm in that generation. I'm in 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.480 the same generation with fat Joe. He was born in 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.920 seventy I was born in seventy one. All of us 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.760 gen xers, for the most part, had some moment of 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.880 being feral, right, where we truly were in a position 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.200 where we were raising ourselves, where we had to fend 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.000 for ourselves. Not that we left home at fourteen like 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.760 that Joe did, but that we were left to our 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:08.440 own devices, and so our level of maturity and survivalship, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.200 the loss of innocence, as you said Radio B was 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.120 far more advanced and happened way earlier for us than 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.120 generations after, right, And so I think because he fourteen 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.880 was different then, and when we think of fourteen now, 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.840 it's like you're just a baby in the seventies. I 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.080 remember being fourteen fifteen, I had responsibilities, right, I had 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.040 stuff I had to do, and so fourteen then in fourteen, 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.000 very clearly he was a big guy. Right, So that 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.160 also plays a part psychologically for you, because you get 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.040 treated already like you're older than what you are, because 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.960 you're bigger than everybody else. Right. So I'm sure all 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:46.640 of that played a part. I'm sure in his mind, 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:51.480 if I have the strength to disarm my father, then 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.280 I must be strong enough to go with alone. I 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.200 felt the need to tell my father what he could 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.680 have couldn't do, even if that meant you can't put 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.160 your hand is on me. I'm of age to go 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.000 and handle this by myself, right, go it alone. So 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.600 if I can handle that, I can handle everything else. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:13.280 Another part of this weight would waste Graffiting the Red 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:17.920 Table after the credits. Oh my gosh, I absolutely love legendary. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:28.040 What's doing He's gonna do graffitios? Yeah, he really did 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.520 make history at the Red Table, like he said he would. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.400 I want to know, do y'all think they're gonna use 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:36.960 that table going for I hope so. So I liked 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.520 it and he signed it. I feel like they need 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.200 to put put some what is it, Polly or whatever. 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.200 I feel like they're gonna keep it. It's classic. They 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.080 might have to buy another table. They got a few 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:51.000 tables at the house. They got a bigger table, smaller table. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.840 So are we fanning out? Okay, Radio B, if you 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:58.480 had a table that Fat Joe had tagged, I wouldn't 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.920 do anything at it. I would You can't its own space? 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:11.960 Who else has Fat Joe's text? Okay? So now, Radio B, 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.320 what did you think about this? I loved it. It 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.520 was some some stories I had heard because he's had 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.800 like a short doc, so I'm very familiar with Fat 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.280 Joe's story. I was born in the Bronx, so I 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.600 have a respect and love from that standpoint. My parents, 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.760 my family is from the Bronx, so I did not 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.920 know that. So I was so, yeah, I have a 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.760 guy love for Fat Joe. Yeah. Why do you think 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.240 he's a pioneer in the hip hop world? Between him 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.680 Turn Squad. Yeah, it's just he was one of those 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:44.360 few that kind of played the executive role and played 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.560 the rap star role. But also out of those guys 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.399 except for maybe Jay Z and a few others, he 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.439 could really rap. And I just think the way he 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.600 approached a lot of things just there's only one Fat Joe, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.679 and he always had a way of coming up with 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.760 a hit still to this, Like he can still put 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:06.080 a hit together. So it's a multifaceted talent for me. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.360 And maybe he saw his tagging skills. He was doing 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.080 that back in school. But then of course transition to 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.520 the music and like you said, even that executive part 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.520 of his life right, Like, he's leaving a clear legacy 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.919 in several ways as a rap artist yourself, Radio be 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.280 with legacy? Do you hope to leave? And I'm just 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.119 gonna add this real quick before he answers. Radio has 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.439 a whole mural in Richmond, Virginia. Okay, So I need 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.520 you to know the legacy is already being laid and 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.080 I love that for him. But what do you want 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.760 to truly leave on? Man, that's a layered question. I 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.159 think just for the things that I do, and I 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.760 guess my purpose and why I do it is I 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:47.080 really want to enrich are an empower artist from here. 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.119 I'm really a hip hop head. So that's one of 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.560 the reasons I rocked with Fat Joe so heavy, is 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.320 because throughout all of the hits and everything like that, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.520 Like he's a hip hop head to the floor, you 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.760 know what I'm saying. Core, Like he still cares about 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.520 people that can really wrap and just making sure like 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.840 that element of hip hop is represented. And I do 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.320 it for those people. I do it for lyricists, the 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.920 people that really have something to say, really put craft 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:17.040 into their lyrics. So for me, it's giving people opportunities 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.679 that were not laid out for me when I was 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.240 in that position. We're also giving the ability to help 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:27.439 develop artists in a way that keeps them pure to 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:31.359 what's been important in the essence of rap, whether that's 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.959 battle rap, whether that's just that MC aspect. I just 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.760 really want to keep that alive. And so a lot 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.800 of the things that I do are focused in that respect. 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.880 We talked a little bit radio about what you do, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.919 but how do you do what you do? Give us 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:50.080 an example of how you create the platform for the 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.719 people that you're helping to lift as you climb. So 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.720 I have two platforms right now, which are South Pall three, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.560 but South Pall Battle Coalition that started for in about 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.000 two thousand fifteen, two thousand and sixteen, which is a 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:07.720 battle league. If anyone's familiar with like Smack you r 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.399 L and seeing those types of battles, that's the format 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.400 in which South Paul takes place, and we've been able 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.520 to really set some trends and make some impacts in 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.879 and out of the city, and that led to me 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.640 being able to figure out and facilitate my next platform, 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.080 which is RBA Rapidly, which we just finished our fifth season. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.280 It's a monthly event where we have thirty mcs that 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.760 compete in the cipher would acts as a league. Really, 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.879 it's not like a one off situation. We track statistics 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.159 throughout the season and we have an m v P s. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.760 We have a champion every month. So we want people 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.960 to get their songs off and the music that they're 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.280 working on, we want that to be presented properly. We 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.119 want people to get their bars together and be focused 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.480 on that and get that off. We want the producers 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.720 to have a space to express themselves and the connect 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.439 with the artists and hopefully build those relationships. So we 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.159 do those things, but then we also have systems in 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.760 place that make sure that the journalists and the podcasters 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.960 and the people that cover from a media standpoint are 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:16.119 plugged in. So need we know that Fat Joe had 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.880 an opportunity to discover fresh new talent, one of them 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:25.679 being DJ Khalid that's phenomenal, and so you are in 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:30.720 a position where you will discover your own DJ kality Qui. Yeah, 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:35.280