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Speaker 3: And if you don't mind, what has been on my schedule?

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Speaker 3: If you look at my hat that BK. Yeah, hell no,

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Speaker 3: Men's heel. You're starting on pod with Yeah, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: I have my prostate taken out in October.

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Speaker 4: This past October.

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Speaker 3: This past October, I had my prostate taking up. I

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Speaker 3: I said, get that taken out, Get it out of me,

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Speaker 3: you decide to treat it with radiation, there's a ninety

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, So it's interesting my prostate as well too,

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Speaker 2: because like it seemed like it's like minut of forty. Right,

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Speaker 2: that's when you get your the prostate exam. They get

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Speaker 3: Two fingers get get the PSA test done where they

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Speaker 3: draw blood and that's real what and that's the and

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Speaker 3: that's the real real way to check your PSA. Go

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Speaker 3: get the blood working on and they send it off

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Speaker 3: and then they combine your your numbers from your PSA

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Speaker 3: now I don't know what the hell the Gleason score

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Speaker 2: Get something figured out.

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Speaker 1: He gets something.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting because like the prostate is something like

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Speaker 2: it's forty, right. Is that when they say you should

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Speaker 3: If if it runs in your family, yeah, you probably

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Speaker 3: Really, because in ten years you can grow a camel

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Speaker 1: It should be. For me, it was I have.

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Speaker 3: My grandson just hit me a picture yesterday day. He

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Speaker 3: got an acceptance letter. Now he's four. He got an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what makes me happy now. Sports.

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Speaker 3: I have an attended a football game or Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: it balled up in time, because as they say, pressure

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Speaker 3: I was put on this earth to be one of

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Speaker 1: I'm over.

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Speaker 3: I'm over that this is the first. But this is

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Speaker 3: we seldomly see him or hear him, it should be

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Speaker 3: easy for everybody else to say, hey, I'm having probably

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Speaker 3: I feel a luck in my chess. We don't call

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Speaker 3: Yeah, men have breast cancer. And I didn't know that

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Speaker 3: I find out about my project, I call all my

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Speaker 4: I think it's powerful too, because again it's like Bo Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Everybody who has this idea of Bo Jackson?

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Speaker 4: I assume you do because you talked about being over fame,

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Speaker 3: I hope now when people want to talk, they want

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Speaker 4: Do you ever enjoy reliving or talking about old you know,

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Speaker 3: Only when people ask me about them and fireside chats.

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Speaker 1: Now my grandson I talked to him about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they make me watch my highlights, which I

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Speaker 2: There a highlight of theirs that there is like their favorite.

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Speaker 2: You just so you're hanging out, you're at track practice

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Speaker 3: run through the fucking tape so I can get these

435
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: guys out of my head because I don't want them.

436
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 3: Call them I thought they pissing my wife off. They

437
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: waking up all the time of night, six in the

438
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: morning cause they're trying to wonder where the fuck you are.

439
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: Please do it for me, if you love me, run

440
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: the fucking forty and run through the tape.

441
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: I said.

442
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna run, I said, because if I try

443
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: to stop, I'm gonna tear something.

444
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 2: Up.

445
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 3: He said, well, we'll open the fucking door. And that

446
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: door hadn't been opened since I've been at all, and

447
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: I was there for four years. That door and they

448
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 3: cleared all the crap back and they opened that back door.

449
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 3: And I went and got down and I told my guy,

450
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: my teammates on the track, who was a high jumper,

451
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: I said, will you get my bag and just gonna

452
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 3: short walk walking towards the track, because when I break

453
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: this tape here and run this, I'm gonna keep going

454
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: to the track. And I got down and pile out

455
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: the blox and everybody everybody had stop watching, and the

456
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: electronic tape was by itself, so all of everybody they

457
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 3: had to stop watch had me under four one elect trunk,

458
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: some guys had had had some guys had me had

459
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: three nine three nine five four flat four one. And

460
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: the tape said, when I crossed the laser line, it

461
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: was flashing four one three and I kept going.

462
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: So, so when did you find out that you ran

463
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: a full one three? Because clearly they came up to

464
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 2: the practice.

465
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: They came up to the track practice and they said, hey,

466
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: what do you think you're running? What do you think

467
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: you ran? I said, I don't know. They said, you

468
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: ran a four one three. I said, all right, They

469
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: said all right, they said ain't Ain't nobody ever running

470
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: fucking four four four one three? And you said all right,

471
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: And I said something to the fact. Look, I got

472
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: big of fish and fried like trying to catch this

473
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: motherfucker over here.

474
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to not do the track practice is all

475
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: you're thinking about.

476
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm trying to get out of track practice.

477
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: But that that never happened. But the four one three

478
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: story is true.

479
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: It's factual. So when you see it, the combine and

480
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: for the longest time was Chris Johnson, right, who was

481
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: four two nine, and then the cat that went to Cincinnati.

482
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: I previous name, he was John Ross. Yeah, he broke that.

483
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: You're watching everybody argue on the NFL network about all

484
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: the fastest forty time and you're sitting there just with

485
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: your grandkids, like these guys don't even know that.

486
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying it's sim saying, well, I didn't say it,

487
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: but the arrogance side.

488
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: Of me, yeah, which is on the side of me, the.

489
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: Twenty one year old side of me. Yeah, what I said, Shit,

490
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: he's still looking at the bottom of my cleats because

491
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: he's crossing fans and I'm down. That's slowing down, So

492
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: I didn't cross it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what

493
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: I would have said. But but no, I chipped my

494
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: hat to the young man for running.

495
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took my hat to him. But I know

496
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: what I did.

497
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: I wish somebody from that that was there at that

498
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: combine that probably was dead, but I wish that they

499
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: would come out and say, hey, I was there when

500
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: he ran before one three.

501
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one ever came out and said anything.

502
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: I don't know who they are because I didn't care

503
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: because I was on because I told that I had

504
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: a bigger fish to fry.

505
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

506
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably the first man in history to be

507
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick and sit there and be like, yeah,

508
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't care about that. I have to go to

509
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: track practice.

510
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

511
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: We were at a radio road to day and we

512
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: were walking around doing a little bit of media here

513
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: and there, and I heard a story about you how

514
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: when you're growing up you wanted to go to University

515
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: of Alabama, and your visit to Alabama is why you

516
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 2: went to Auburn.

517
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: The coach came into my house to visit with me

518
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: and my mom, and we were expecting coach Bryant to

519
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: come up. And he told me coach Bryant had a

520
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: family emergency the head to go ten to, so they

521
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: sent the defensive coordinator Ken down the Hill. And I

522
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: just come in from a baseball game. I come through

523
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 3: the front door. I walk in, I see my mom

524
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: sitting at the dining table, this old white guy. I speak,

525
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 3: go downstairs and do my laundry, get my baseball uniform

526
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: out to watch it like we do, cause I got

527
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: a game. The next day. He comes down, he said, Vincent.

528
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: They call me Vincent Vincent. My name's coach Ken Downehill.

529
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm the defensive coordinator at the Universe Talit of Alabama.

530
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: First of all, I want to apologize because coach Bryant

531
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: couldn't make it because he had a family emergency, had

532
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: to go ten to. He said, But I want to

533
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: tell you that we would love to have you in Tuchcalusha.

534
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: We think you'll fit in great, We'll think he'll be successful.

535
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: But my honest opinion is that I don't think you

536
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: get a chance to play till the end of your sophomore.

537
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: The beginning of your junior season, and you know, the

538
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: only other place you want to go to that you

539
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: were looking at is Auburn because you want to stay

540
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: closer home so your family can come see you play.

541
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: Then he said, this, young man, let me, let me

542
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 3: tell you something about Auburn.

543
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: I said.

544
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: He said, Auburn hasn't beat Alabama since nineteen seventy two.

545
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: This was nineteen eighty two. And then he said, and

546
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: they never will. So I shook his hand like bet

547
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: because he said, Vincent, I'm gonna go back up stairs

548
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: and talk to your mother. So he shook my hand,

549
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: and I'm smiling, but inside I'm saying to myself, you

550
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: gotta be a fucking fool if you think I'm gonna

551
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: come to your universe and ride the bench for two

552
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: fucking years and not play. He's still got to what

553
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, he.

554
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: Relives and getting tight or tired of.

555
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: My God damn, But that's what I'm saying to myself. Yeah,

556
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: And I remember his last words, and they never will.

557
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: When my freshman year, all been signed eleven running backs.

558
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: They signed the number one running back in the state

559
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: and I wasn't. And I think I was the fifth

560
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: top running back that they claim I was. But come

561
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: they let me in the game one time. And I

562
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: say this to all kids who is competing in sports.

563
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: If you go out for a position, somebody's in front

564
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: of you, you should have one goal on your mind

565
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: is to take his job. I don't care who he is,

566
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: it's to take his job. And I told him, you

567
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: put me in the game, I'm going to make it

568
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: hardest hell for you to ever want to take me out.

569
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: And that's what I lived by. And I got in

570
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: the game, or this second possession, first quart against wake

571
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: Forest my freshman year, I lit him up like a

572
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: Christmas tree. And I've been doing that, but in not

573
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: saying that from a bragging standpoint, but I try to

574
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: teach young kids today you should have one goal is

575
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: to make it to the top and stay there. I said,

576
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: my mental aspect of the game was when I stepped

577
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: across that white line on the football field to go

578
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: on the football field, or step across that white line

579
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: on the baseball field. In my mind, I'm the baddest

580
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: motherfucker on the planet. Ain't no dog is bigger than

581
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: me on the field or badd than me. And I said,

582
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: that's the way I live my life in sports, not

583
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: saying it's about me, but this dog is gonna make

584
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: it to where my all my teammates, my other dog

585
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: can run around the ball park call I'm gonna make

586
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: sure that I'm the baddest dog in the park.

587
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: Kind of going right now, So how were you on

588
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: the field, were you like internally as the baddest dog

589
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: on the field. Were you sitting there and just kind

590
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: of quiet, keep to yourself, or you're a shit talker.

591
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: Quiet before the storm?

592
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

593
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: Quiet, quiet before something. I never ship talking the.

594
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: Storm has happening.

595
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: What about what other dogs are barking?

596
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: When I let the bark let a bark?

597
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, people walk up.

598
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: Both bark, never bark has never anybody If they try

599
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: to bite you, my bites bigger.

600
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: So you were.

601
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: Unfazed by the ship talk. Someone walked up to your boat,

602
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: You were, bitch, you're not going to do anything today.

603
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: Speak with that's all.

604
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: They'd kind of scared now, Yeah, kind of super Bowl Jackson.

605
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: You can imagine that type of swagger confidence that this

606
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: player would have, especially when they're like a dual sport athlete.

607
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: Do we feel like there's ever going to be a

608
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: dual sport athlete. Again, like in your mind as you

609
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 4: sit back and see, guys.

610
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: Not for football baseball, not for football baseball. If you

611
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: try to do both, you're going to be mediocre in both.

612
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: You'll never be a start at both positions.

613
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 4: What made it you to where you were a pro

614
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: bowler in it, all star in both of those sports?

615
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: The heart, the fight, heart, the fight.

616
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: Was it hard to juggle both?

617
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: No, no, see here's a problem. Will let me just

618
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: tell you something right now. We brought Bo back. We

619
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: hit to that mindset right now, and now he's just

620
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: thinking to himself. I don't go to say a whole lot.

621
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: I have my actions. We've lost him. We've lost We've

622
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: lost him to the darkness right now.

623
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: We lost we are But I'll tell you one one

624
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: short then I'm gonna let you fellas go. Monday Night,

625
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football Raiders canst Seattle my college roommate who

626
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: blocked for me for four years? What's back up? Full

627
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 3: back to Johnny L. Williams for Seattle Tommy agent And

628
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: it's the week that let's the other fans made up

629
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: big to do out of bowl Versus Bosworth Brian Bosworth

630
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: baddest guy in the NFL. Soul called badest guy in

631
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: the NFL. He had the mohawk with the pink and

632
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: red hair, they had the tattoos and everything, and he

633
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: was Jack and Bodswory's got to be tamous. And I'll

634
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: tell you that he was smart because that persona he

635
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 3: put on.

636
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Made him a shit ton of money, right, the bad guy. Yeah,

637
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: the rebel.

638
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit you even if you run out of bound.

639
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: That's him. Take the fifteen yard penps. I don't care,

640
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna teach you you can't run away from me.

641
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: And I like that.

642
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: In the whole week they talked Bosworth talking I'm down

643
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: in LA with the Raiders. They said, oh, yes, no

644
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: out of him. Nothing to say now that week leading

645
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: up to the game, Wednesday before the game, Now, I'm

646
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: not exaggerating this and I'm not lying. Swear on my

647
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: mother's grave. The Thursday before that game, on Monday night,

648
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: three things happened. The first thing happened was I told

649
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: my wife she was pregnant with our second child, and

650
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: she didn't believe me, and she got a pregnant test

651
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 3: two days later, and she was pregnant she said.

652
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: How did you know that? Swear?

653
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 3: No, I'm here, And then I went back and said,

654
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 3: and just being arrogant because just me and her in

655
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: the room, I said that bow no shit, I said,

656
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: it's true. So that's just me that the first thing happened.

657
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

658
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 3: The second thing that happened that game was November thirty,

659
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty seven, my twenty sixth birthday. On that day,

660
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: the third thing that happened, I celebrated my birthday, Me

661
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: and my raided teammates by blowing the asshole out of

662
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: the Seahawks them, oh on them, folding them up and

663
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: putting them in our pocket. But at the end of

664
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: the game, we have a saying, what do you want

665
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: to do with these guys? By the end of the

666
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 3: same we want to have their souls in our hands,

667
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: stuffing them in their pocket. By the fourth quarter, we

668
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: want to kill the will, kill their will to even

669
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: players they don't play it somewhere. And the icing on

670
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: the cake was when our truck bars worked down on

671
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: the goal line, like, oh, they've been talking all day,

672
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: but it worked out good.

673
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Now.

674
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: The first play that I ran two series before, I

675
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 3: had the ninety something yard run. We ran a play

676
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: and I cut it back because I'm using all my

677
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: peripheral visions.

678
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: I never looked here. I'm looking here, I'm looking at you, and.

679
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this guy here, but I'm looking this way,

680
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: so I'm looking so I see my So I was

681
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: notorious for cutting back and eating you up. My offensive

682
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: coordinator Terry Terry Terry Row Biscuy, well.

683
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: We call him biscuit. We busy, Come on, said Bow.

684
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: He said, we're gonna run that play two series from now.

685
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: We ain't gonna run that same play.

686
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: Keep it outside, and I promise you you take it outside,

687
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: You're gonna bust their ass wide open. And was back

688
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: back on the seven yard line and was it except

689
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: six six year six yard line or something? He said,

690
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: keep it outside, and I did, and went went to Tacoma,

691
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: asked what's the name? He said, He's not gonna stop

692
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: till he could get to a coma. And they had

693
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: the door open until they were in the stadium. That's

694
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: the only way I stopped. They had and in the

695
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: tunnel there was about thirty thirty forty yards. I went

696
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: three courts away down that tone, turnout and come back.

697
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: Most of the defense all of the kicking get gained

698
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: was in the tunnel, clapping for me, hugging me, cheering

699
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: me on and so for this song. And then I

700
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: think I caught a pass for a touchdown. And then

701
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: the pay I put the nail in the coffin that

702
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: killed the spirits was when I truck barged down on

703
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: the three yard line.

704
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: He said anything to you after the game?

705
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: No, but with me being young and but I lie,

706
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: this is a lot, so I'm saying it to you

707
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: right now. But I wanted to say, next time, have

708
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: a bus fare, motherfucker I but I didn't. That's just

709
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: the trash side of me talking, because as you know,

710
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: we talked trash the whole game. We talked trash the

711
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: whole game. And but that night, that week was probably

712
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: the best week of my sports career because of the

713
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 3: pregnancy of my wife, my birthday and all my family

714
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 3: and friends back home got to see me work.

715
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was uh?

716
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: What was a relationship relationship? Like with Terry Robisque in

717
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, he was He was our offics coordinator at

718
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: the Titans, and he was His personality is incredible. He

719
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: could sit there and tell stories.

720
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: But I just did a piece with him last year

721
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: about his book.

722
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh really that's awesome.

723
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

724
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: At what age do you feel like you're uh you

725
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: you kind of do something outside whatever it is where

726
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 4: you're like you just you have the conversation with yourself.

727
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't got it anymore. Oh, hell, I

728
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: said say that. I say that when I lift the toilet. See,

729
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: but all the ability had in the morning, Yes, I was.

730
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: I'd have to say, I sit up and think now,

731
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: and I say to myself, you with the ship at

732
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: one time, and you woke up this morning and you

733
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: felt like you got run over by a herd of cattle.

734
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 3: And I have and I asked, man with my wife,

735
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: did you beat me with a sledg Tamil last tight

736
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: while I was asleep? Arms hurt, my elbow, can't sleep

737
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: because this shoulder hurt. Got an artificial shoulder here officially

738
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 3: hip prop State Surgery Colony. I'm a mess.

739
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm a mess.

740
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: I know we had two. I have one more question?

741
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: Was you with a butt light question? What do you

742
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: say to people when everybody's argued by the greatest athlete

743
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: of all time? Like your name in Deon Sanders's name

744
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 2: comes up quite a bit. What do you think when

745
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: people are arguing for Deon Sanders, knowing the mindset you have,

746
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 2: and I know you're not going to say it publicly,

747
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: but what do you think.

748
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 3: Everybody have their own opinion. I would never say I'm

749
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: the better athlete because that's not my man. I'm gonna

750
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: always compliment somebody else, period. Deon Sander was great at

751
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: what he did. He's in the hall.

752
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: The thing.

753
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: I love him for that weird friends, and I'm quite

754
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: sure I'm I'm gonna go to ca collar route and

755
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: get him on my podcast because with him having his

756
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: bladder cancer and my propitiate issue ship, we'll have an

757
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: award winning podcast.

758
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: Hell yeah to the two greatest to do it on,

759
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: you know, playing both baseball and football, you guys having

760
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: a conversation with all the hell stuff going on.

761
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so that's where I am. And I say this,

762
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: I was good for the sports when I played, but

763
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: those sports was great for both Jackson. It's allowed me

764
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: to be here with you all. It's allowed me to

765
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: provide for my family. It's allowed me to do things

766
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: for the public that nobody knows about. I can go

767
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: do things in the shadows and put some sunshine in

768
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: somebody's life and leave and nobody know the difference. And

769
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that part of me. I

770
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: love being private. I don't have to be out there

771
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: look at me, Hey, this is me. I hate that

772
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: a lot of people. I've been living in my community

773
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: in Illinois for almost thirty five years and I drive

774
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: my Dodge Duly to the service station that's a mile

775
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: up the street and I'm not hitting you. Somebody will

776
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: walk up to me and say, you like that, fellow

777
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: bow Jackson. Then they said, damn it, you are What

778
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 3: the hell are you doing in Illinois? I live a

779
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: mile down the road. Nobody knows it. The people that

780
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 3: see me often is my buddies that I hunt with,

781
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: fish with, and the people down on the golf course.

782
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

783
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: That's you'll see me the most. That's awesome.

784
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 4: We have a segment sponsored by budd Light because people

785
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: would do anything for a nice school bud Light. But

786
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: what is something that bo Jackson would do anything for?

787
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: What it is something or someone that I do anything for?

788
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: Something bo Jackson would do anything for?

789
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: Wrinkle in it to I can't say family.

790
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 1: All right, I would do anything to keep.

791
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 3: No, I can't say that because I'm starting a podcast,

792
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: all right.

793
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: And it can't be anything with the family.

794
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Well, we give you if.

795
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: You can't give you fai like that.

796
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 4: If you have a favorite grand Jill that you know

797
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: I want them to be, I will take that.

798
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: But I would I would give my life. I would

799
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: give my life if I can hug and kiss my

800
00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 3: mom again.

801
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: Mm hmm period. Period. That's a good one. It's a

802
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: really good one. Thank you man. I appreciate it. We

803
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: really appreciate it.

804
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: Thank you man, Thank you, get your sleep.

805
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: Thank thank you all Mam