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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: To dusk settling on the seventy sixth th Reese's Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 2: one of the most powerful games.

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Speaker 2: We are fired up to welcome you into our Reese's

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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl recap show. I'm Brett Lewis, joined here by

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Speaker 2: our lead draft analyst that NFL Network, Daniel Jeremiah, and

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Speaker 2: the executive director of the Reese's Senior Bowl, Jim Naggi. So, guys,

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Speaker 2: we've had a great run here right started with our

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Speaker 2: roster reveal show here on NFL Network and on the

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Speaker 2: Move the Sticks podcast, we get Donomobile, three great practices

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Speaker 2: leading up to just an incredible game, an emotional game. Again,

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Speaker 2: we'll get into that, but Jim, as you look back

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Speaker 4: You, Well, it was another great week, probably our best

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Speaker 4: week we've had in terms of roster weather. And then,

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Speaker 4: like you just said that, the storybook ending with the

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Speaker 4: jack best touchdowns, So incredible week. You know, I think

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Speaker 4: that the d line group held up as advertised. You know,

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Speaker 4: there was a lot to talk about. All these top

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Speaker 4: a great week. I think the offensive line, you saw

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Speaker 5: The ball that really helped their case for the draft.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, you ended with the quarterback class.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of high profile names in that group.

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought Jackson Dart, Jalen Milroe, Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 5: Those guys showed well too.

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Speaker 4: So just a lot a lot of people to be

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Speaker 4: grateful for, you guys know what it takes to put

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Speaker 4: this game on down here, from our office staff, our

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Speaker 4: such a great week.

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Speaker 3: Without question.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean it's so valuable for us to get

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Speaker 2: to get to see them against the best of the best,

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Speaker 2: three practices that provide plenty of memorable moments. Ont of

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Speaker 2: standouts from the practice week in Mobile. These are a

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Speaker 2: the three days. Thought Max Harston was maybe the most

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Speaker 2: consistent cover corner that we saw in Mobile. Kyle Williams,

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Speaker 2: as you saw on that practice recap man, he's got

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Speaker 2: Mason Taylor is the natural at tight end, certainly fitting

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Speaker 2: coming from the Hall of Famer. Jason Taylor's his dad,

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Speaker 2: and then Gray's Abel I think unofficially took the most

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Speaker 2: of course from Marshall had the viral clip of the

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Speaker 2: So many great moments from the Senior Bowl. It's funny,

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Speaker 2: like you heard DJ and I's voices there as we

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Speaker 4: I'll piggyback on the first guy, Greys Abel, right, I

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Speaker 4: stepped up. You know you're not supposed to helmet scout,

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Speaker 4: I thought, you know, we had Cody mock down here

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Speaker 5: To me, Walter Nolan's that guy in this year's draft.

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Speaker 6: And I like what Walter Nolan accomplished during that week.

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Speaker 3: Games that we've had in Mobile.

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Speaker 2: Five Vreese's Senior Ball in Mobile had the stars out

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Speaker 6: Well, you're not gonna find a better finish to any

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Speaker 2: A month before the scene your Bowl, Jack Besh and

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Speaker 1: Besh one month ago today, I think your brother passed away.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been surreal just to be able to come

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Speaker 2: Man still get some of those goosebumps thinking about that

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Speaker 6: And we could go a laundry list of guys that

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Speaker 6: from now, that's going to be known as the Jack

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Speaker 2: Oh, without question, And Jim, I would imagine you got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't have scripted the ending with Jack any better.

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Speaker 4: But one of the guys on DJ's Saveon Jones from LSU,

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Speaker 4: This guy played reps at NICOL, He played free safety,

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Speaker 2: What do you know, a dB from Iowa has incredible instinct,

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Speaker 2: much more on the way here in our recent Senior

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Speaker 2: game day at a couple of those sacks that Jim

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Speaker 2: just a glimpse right there into the passion, the energy

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Speaker 3: How'd you feel like that played in that week.

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Speaker 2: Of jam packed activities, both practices, games, and all things

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Speaker 8: Yeah, man, great question and one thanks for having me today.

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Speaker 6: I mean when you get a chance to dig into

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Speaker 8: It was incredibly fun. I mean, football is you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, good to see again to DJ's point, I mean,

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Speaker 5: But I want to circle back to what Ratt talked about.

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Speaker 4: You were are we We give a good Guy award

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Speaker 5: And now was you this year? Where does that come from?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 4: But where is that attitude come from?

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Speaker 5: Because it's special, man, you what you got is special.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I think it's just who I am and how I

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Speaker 5: Really my faith in Christ.

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Speaker 8: Just really trying to be a great steward to whoever

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Speaker 8: it is, and be humble, have a be a man

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Speaker 5: So very honored to receive that award.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was obviously well deserved Femi.

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Speaker 2: And and then just kind of going back to what

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Speaker 2: Jim had mentioned there the position switch for you, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean you were what ten games into playing edge

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think I found where I'm supposed

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Speaker 5: I mean he killed it.

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Speaker 5: So I'm proud of him. It's just texting him. So

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Speaker 6: Grateful for those that are watching your training in Dallas

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Speaker 5: Man, with a lot of great athletes. Man, they just

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Speaker 8: We just did some combine work on the board, but

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Speaker 7: So it's really fun out here.

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Speaker 5: Last one real quick.

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Speaker 4: Before you left Bobile, you talked about you felt like

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Speaker 5: And again that's the cool part of you being so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 8: Funny enough, my edge coach was kJ Wright and when

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Speaker 5: What it will be like in the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well, just one of the many valuable pieces of the

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Speaker 3: Fami, thanks for being with us man.

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Speaker 2: All the best to you as you get started here

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Speaker 5: Thank you, buddy, thank you so much having going.

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Speaker 2: For so many of the Senior Bowl attendees. The next

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Speaker 2: Who's a couple of guys that maybe you're looking forward

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Speaker 4: The first Mobile's fastest man Darien Porter Corner from Iowa State.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I look forward to watching those guys. I'll just

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: One more small school guy that will give a shout

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Speaker 2: out to Marcus Yarns from Delaware who we were told

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Speaker 3: So excited to see that.

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Speaker 2: When he gets down there on the field in indianputa

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Speaker 3: Jim. Can't wait for next year. Man, let's get it rolling.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 2: You are in our Senior Bowl recap show and can't

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Speaker 2: wait to see everybody

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Speaker 3: At the combine from any