1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian, is your mechanic short changing you? You 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: want to find out, Come on the spot and uh 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: see if he's got the correct amount of fluids in 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: the vehicle, because if they can't get the correct amount 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: of fluids, then maybe they can't do a lot of 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: things correctly. The Car Doctor, Is there supposed to be 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: oil on a dipstick? Show of hands? Is there supposed 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: to be oil on a dipstick? Thumbs up? Yes, right, yeah, 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: at least these two guys. Now, welcome to the radio 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: home of ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, since this 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: the garage to orders are open. But I am here 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: to take your call at eight five five five six, 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, start your engines and come 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: on in Ronny and the Car Doctor, and hopefully your 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: engines do start, and that's what we can talk about 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: for the next two hours at zero nine zero zero 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: in case they don't, because that's what this radio shows 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: all about. Why it starts, what if it doesn't start? 22 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: And what to do, what to do, and when it 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: goes into the garage. That's really what this car Doctor 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: show has been all about for the past twenty six 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: plus years. My name is Ron and Any and a 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: k a. The Card Doctor at zero nine zero zero. Whoops, 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I already told you that, but you should know that 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: by now. Maybe you're new and we welcome you a 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: board and thanks for sticking around for the next two hours. 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: The website here is Yes, sir, what's your name again? Uh? Well, 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: it depends. It depends if I get to push all 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: those buttons in front of you, don't. They say that 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the first thing that goes is a memory. Well, I 34 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I kind of remember that. Um what was my name again? Ron? 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: And in so anyway, UM, we are going to talk 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: about your car. It's problem. I guess I'm a little 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: out of sorts today, maybe kind of sort of. I've 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: come to the conclusion, let's just jump right into it, 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: all right. I've come to the conclusion that car companies 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: really deserve a big pad on the back because I 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: really think and I learned this this week. I learned 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: something this week. They they really do an outstanding job 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: in inventorying and taking care of parts, and I never 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: really had as big an appreciation for them as for 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: what I went through this week. Yesterday at the shop, 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: it was it was a heck of a Friday. You know, 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: we do this show live Saturday afternoons two to four pm, 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: in case you don't know, and you can call that 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: number five zero, by the way, Saturday's two to four 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: pm Eastern time, and we're here. But maybe you're a podcaster, 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: or maybe you're taking it on a stream or the 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: late broadcast or something, and I get that, but I 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: always work in real time in my head in this sense. 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: So it was Friday morning yesterday and there was a 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: computer meltdown in the shop. Oops. Never a good thing, right, 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: And you're just trying to get through Friday, and one 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: of the CPU fans on the counter computer died. You know, 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: you can hear it starting to bind up and fail. Hey, 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: how hard could this be? I switched over. I had 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: a backup computer on the counter roll, so I switched 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: over to that. When I took the counter machine apart 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: a coffee break, blew out all the dust and all 63 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: the things that have accumulated, and saw it was a 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: bad fan assembly. Hey, I need a fan assembly. It's 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: only a two year old computer power spec out of 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: micro Center, I said, you know, and the reason we 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: went in and brought seven computers at one time was because, well, 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, we're always going to have parts. The reason 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: to get things for their their common basic everyday stuff. 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: It's I'm thinking, you would be like buying car parts. 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: How hard could this be? So yesterday after work I 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: ran down to Microcenter and showed them the CPU fan cooler, 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the CPU fan and the heat sink, the 74 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: cooler assembly, the I took a picture of the serial number. 75 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I took a picture of the socket. I took a 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: picture of the motherboard. I had the model number of 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the computer. I had everything you could. I'm thinking about 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: this like a mechanic. I want to repair this. I 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: need I need, I need VN, I need model number. 80 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: I need you know, way to identify what it is. 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: And here's the old part. I need one of these. 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: I went to the knowledge bar or the not so 83 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: knowledge bar, depending upon your perspective and how you walk 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: away from the place. I don't know what they're drinking 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: at the knowledge bar, but it's not knowledge. So they 86 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: looked it up and they said well, it could be 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: one of these four possibilities. Now you have to go 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: to the back of the building and go to the 89 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: building Yourself department, which is really should be called to 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: do it Yourself department, and they'll help you find what 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: you need. Okay, great, take it back there. Now. You 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: know the difference between horizontal and vertical horizontals, like the 93 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: horizon vertical is upright. I had a horizontal fan. They 94 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: sold me too vertical fans. Well, you know these will 95 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: work because we don't have this model fan. This is 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: so old, we don't keep this anymore. And I'm I 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: know I'm wrong. I said, what do you mean you 98 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: don't keep this anymore? How old? It's only two years old. 99 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: A automobile car is old. I guess, well, I always 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: say that, and I guess it's coming back to haunt 101 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: me now, right, So we don't have parts for a 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: two year old computer. So I take the vertical home. 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: I trust the kid. He knows what he's doing. Kids 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: all know everything today. They're smarter than me when it 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: comes to technology, maybe sort of kinda. And I came home, 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: I had supper, and I looked at Susie and I said, 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go back to the shop. I'm 108 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna put this fan in so that Monday morning we 109 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: can open up and we're good to go. We're charged. 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: I go back, got there, Bill, it's quarter to ten, 111 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: you know. We had coffee little Danish and left the 112 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: house and went back to the shop. Oh somewhere about 113 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: twelve twelve, twelve o'clock, ten after twelve, I came to 114 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: the realization that what they had sold me didn't have 115 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: a clue or a chance of being assembled and installed 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: into the computer case. I went back there this morning 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: return the stuff that didn't work, and I asked, one 118 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: more time, do you have this? Nope, we don't keep that. Okay, 119 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: you'll have to go back to the do what you're 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: spilled at yourself department. See I keep saying that to 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: do it yourself department, to build at yourself department, and 122 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: they'll help you find something. Well, I knew how that 123 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: worked out last night, So I said to myself, let 124 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: me go do this on my own. Let me be 125 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: the mechanic. So I sat there and I thought about it, 126 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: and I said, I've got a two year old computer 127 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: with an outdated according to them, cpu cooling fan. If 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: this was a car and the parts were in stock, 129 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: where would they be sure enough? I went to the 130 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: top shelf in the back corner where the cooling fans 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: are kept, and I found a pile of ten of 132 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: the cooling fan units that I needed, and I looked 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: at it. I went, wow, look at that. Right down 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: to the part numbers say model Cooler Master DP sixes 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: and there were five bucks apiece. I bought four of them. 136 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: I need one now I've got spares. Now I guarantee 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: that the other seven machines I have will never go 138 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: bad because I have spare parts. And what I learned 139 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: from that was, by the way, the other cooling fans 140 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: were thirty five dollars apiece, So maybe the margin the 141 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: markup must be greater on the thirty five dollar ones. 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why they're selling them. And what I learned 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: from that and all kidden around the side, is think 144 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: about a car. Think about the complexity of a car, 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: all the parts and all the pieces that go into 146 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: that car, everything the nuts, the bolts, the interior, the trim, 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the electronics that go into a car. I never really 148 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: appreciated it until this moment. I always thought it was 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: a daunting task. Now I think it's an overwhelming task. Now. 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: I give them credit the fact that they can keep 151 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: a ten year old car on the road and still 152 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: have the electronics around for it. But what it also 153 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: got me to think about was, Wow, what are we 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: gonna do in ten years when we run out of 155 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: electronic parts for all the cars that we're driving today 156 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: that we're all in love with, that we all think 157 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: are so great, that are wonderful. Where are they gonna go? 158 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: Yes to inten years. I deal with broadcast transmitters all 159 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: the time. There's some broadcast transmitters that aren't even five 160 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: years old. I can't get parts yet. Or I pick 161 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: up the phone and call and say I need to 162 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: do a module swap for this, and they go, well, 163 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the connector. You can't do that because the connector has 164 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: been discontinued. You have to you have to send the 165 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: module in for repair. And and the part that gets 166 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: me is, you know, I'm looking at the cooling fans. 167 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Going back to the computers for a minute, it was 168 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: a nine millimeter around fan. There's a ninety five millimeter, 169 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: there's a ninety two millimeter, there's an eighty eight millimeter, 170 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: there's an eighty millimeter, there's a hundred and twenty millimeter. 171 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: You know what, small, medium, and large. It worked at 172 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: McDonald's for how many years? And look look at how 173 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: many billions have sold? How many burgers have you seen 174 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: McDonald sell. There's a hundred and twenty cubic feet per minute, 175 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty cubic feet per minute, a hundred 176 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: cubic feet per minute, ninety cubic feet buds? Which one 177 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: do you use? You know, is it really that critical? 178 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: You know, in a non gaming, non military, non technical environment. 179 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, because there's a lot going on behind the 180 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: scenes in window us. Well, but still there's gotta be 181 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: a better way to do this. And if it's that critical, 182 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: how about here's the standard, and let's maintain you've got 183 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: to keep these, you know, and I don't I get 184 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: confused myself, but look at look at the charger port 185 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: on your phone. There's a mini USB, a micro USB, 186 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: and then there's the porch shape that the apples have, 187 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: and there's all these different ends to charger chords. Let's 188 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: pick something and make it work, right, Let's just have 189 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: one thing. Do we need this way? You know what? Well, 190 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: I know why they do it because every time you 191 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: trade on your phone, you have to go out and 192 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: buy another charging cable. You have to. And but the 193 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: problem is, look at the space in the landfill. I mean, 194 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: we're way off the subject the cars here, but bring 195 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: it back to cars. Look at how we're filling up 196 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: the environment with parts from cars. Because if you're no 197 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: good anymore, So what do the manufacturers do do they are? 198 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: They are? They overproducing parts for cars for eight to 199 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: ten years, and then when they're done, they're scrap appt. 200 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: So they manufacture them, they wear a house them, they 201 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: scraped them, and then they start all over again. Isn't 202 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: that a wasted effort? Bottom line, you gotta give it 203 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: to the car companies as long as they're keeping cars 204 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: on the road. The fact that we've created this pile 205 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: of technological chips in automobiles, computers and everything else, and 206 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: we're able to keep things going as long as we can. 207 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: Not so much the computer industry. I think two years 208 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: for CPU cooling fans to be a problem is a 209 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: little ridiculous. Yeah, and I found it, so I'm not 210 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: but I was just of course, you know, I'm still 211 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: amazed at micro center. I don't understand that. Their answer was, well, 212 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: it's a be seven nineteen. We haven't made that model 213 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: for eight months. Okay, well why don't you store the specs? Well, 214 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: where would restore them? Oh? I don't know. How about 215 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: a hard drive? You know, how about we put it 216 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: up in the cloud? How about we How hard is 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: this to to deal with it? You can't look up 218 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: parts for a computer that you give it to the 219 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: car companies folks, And um, you know we're gonna give 220 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: them around this time. We're gonna say that, Hey, they 221 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: won the day because look at what they do. So 222 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: when you go into the dealership or the parts house 223 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the next time and they say they can't get parts 224 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: for your car, how old is your car? If your 225 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: car is you know, seven eight years old, that was 226 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: a pretty good run. Um, that really was. Now some 227 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: car companies like Chrysler, that's another story. Three years old 228 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: and you can't get you can't get fenders. I hear 229 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: stories about late model Chryslers having to take fenders off 230 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: the same body style on the assembly line and transfer 231 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: amount to the dealership group in order to sell them 232 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: because they can't get replacement parts and that's a whole 233 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: another conversation. So anyway, eight five zero, Ronny in the 234 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'm ronning any in the car doctor. That 235 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: makes Tony happy when I say that. It feels like 236 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: he's working with somebody important. And UM, I'll be back 237 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back the car doctor. Rolling along 238 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: this hourday five five zero zero. Let's get over to 239 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Ron Tilton, Tintinton, Tinton Falls, New Jersey, one four tourist Ron. 240 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. Sure, how can I help? 241 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Tell a little problem. Basically, what 242 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: it amounted to is the car had been sitting around 243 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: for two or three weeks and it was a cold 244 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: day and they tried to start it and uh, basically 245 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: just hear the starter chatter. Essentially it wouldn't turn over. 246 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: So put the battery charger on a charge it back 247 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: up and now I get in the car and turn 248 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: the munition. Uh started essentially and all the lights in 249 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: the dashboard go dark. Essentially. Now I called you about 250 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: five years ago in this same car with that problem 251 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: with the path system, and uh you sent me and 252 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: we go to the dealer essentially have it scanned, and 253 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: what they they didn't see any of the doors essentially 254 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: at that point in time, and they replaced which called 255 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: a chime switch at the back Nissan switch and work 256 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: fine for five years. So after I charged the battery 257 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: up and got in, there wouldn't start. So I one 258 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: of the tricks to get into the dealer was play 259 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: with the key essentially, and I basically got it where 260 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: the engine turned over. It was turning over fine, but 261 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: it wouldn't one start one fire. And uh, so when 262 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: I had my daughter started and checked the battery voltage 263 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: and it was eleven and a half to the eleven 264 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: a half volts essentially when it was cranking, and it 265 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: was cranking fine, so I uh, and then obviously tried 266 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: it again. It wouldn't. Basically went dead. So I lifted 267 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: the battery terminal and I had cleaned the terminals and 268 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: when I charged it and uh basically put it back 269 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: together again and they wouldn't start crank, but it wouldn't start. 270 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: And so let me see if I can hear the 271 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: fuel pump running. So opened the trunk. Had my daughter 272 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: turned the key just on, you didn't hear the fuel 273 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: pump pressurized. But she played with the key a couple 274 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: more times all of a sudden, the fuel pump pressurizes, 275 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: car starts and a runs. Fine. Well, I have a 276 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: problem with the am mobilizer mobilizer on this car. I'll 277 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: keep it from starting. It'll keep it from cranking. Nothing 278 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: with the fuel pump, right, nothing with a will pump. 279 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: A pad system issue will put the car into a 280 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: no crank dash light only condition. Al right, So this 281 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: sounds like you've got a fault either in or at 282 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the ignition switch and and or and you've already checked this, 283 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, dirty battery cables connections, something that changed during 284 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: the course of those three weeks of the car sitting. 285 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: If it was fine prior to you you know, parking 286 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: team to run fine with the change of the China 287 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: switch five years ago, it was fine ever since then, right, 288 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and and it's okay to think about that, 289 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't want to put too much stock in 290 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: it unless you can reproduce and duplicate the condition and 291 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: then go through some tests. So at this point, yeah, 292 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: you know you well you had the battery terminals off. 293 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: If you had the battery terminals off, since you had 294 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: the problem, you've raised any fault codes in it. So 295 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: I did I did check that before and there was 296 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: not nothing? Well, did you check using an O b 297 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: D two scanner or did you check using manufacturer specific 298 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: and right generic? O b D two is only gonna 299 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: look at emissions, all right, So you know you want 300 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: to really go at something like this. Here's a case 301 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: for the argument and the cause of Whenever a car 302 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: comes in, we do a system skin where we'll look 303 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: at every module in the vehicle and records, pull out 304 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: as much information as we possibly can. If it's if 305 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: it's starting now, you may not see it again. It 306 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: might have been a contact that was oxidized. That might 307 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: have been a connector that had poor connection. I mean, 308 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: there's there's twelve different possibilities. You know, trying to backtrack 309 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: and and duplicate it's gonna be tough. You know. It 310 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: could have been a combination of things. It could have 311 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: been a combination of dirty battery terminals and the fuel 312 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: pump that was stuck in a dead spot on the 313 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: armature on the sixteen year old, seventeen year old car. 314 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, anything's possible. You know, the only thing I 315 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: can tell you, the best bet I can tell you 316 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: is just make sure it's a good battery, make sure 317 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: the connections at the cables are good. Make sure the 318 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: ground at the battery end of the transaxle is good. 319 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: And also up on the firewall where the able splits 320 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: and comes off and goes for the body ground, you know, 321 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: and if that's the case, drive it and um, you know, 322 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: just just be prepared. Conditions in right now, basically it's 323 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: the fuel pump on fire essentially. Well are you saying 324 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: right now it's it's back to a no start condition. Well, 325 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: basically it'll turn over, but the it won't. It won't 326 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: run because there's no the fuel pumps not pressurized. You 327 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: just said, didn't you just say? Your daughter got the 328 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: fuel pump the pressure basically one or two tries, then 329 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: we basically pulled the key, I put it back in 330 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: again and it wouldn't. Basically I'd be able to turn 331 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: it over, but it wouldn't. Okay. So so right now 332 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: it's in a no start condition where it will crank 333 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: but it won't pressurize the fuel pump. That's exactly right. Okay, 334 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: So now you want to go over to the easiest 335 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: place for you would be the fuel pump inertia switch, 336 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: which would be it's either in the right kick panel 337 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: in the passenger compartment or it's back in the trunk 338 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: on the left side, and you're gonna have two wires going. 339 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: And if memory serves me right, there's gonna be a 340 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: red pink um. Yeah, I believe it's a. It's a 341 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: it's a pink, black pink with a black trace, pink 342 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: with a white trace and a green coming out the 343 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: other side. One's gonna be feed from the box. Deal. 344 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: It's gonna be feed down to the pump. You have 345 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: to have hot there on from the relay and from 346 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: the fuse circuit feeding it down to the pump. If 347 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: you don't, then you've got to backtrace up to the 348 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: fuel pump relay. And if you can locate the fuel 349 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: pump relay, which should be in the battery junction box 350 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: under the hood, you will see if you look at 351 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: if you look at the schematic, usually the fuel pump 352 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: relay and the PCM power relay are identical. All right now, 353 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you to swap those simply because 354 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: if the PCM and I didn't ask that question when 355 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: you crank it, do you when you turn the key 356 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: to the opposition do you get a check engine light? Yeah, yeah, Okay, 357 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: so the PCM is awake. If you want to back 358 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: trace it to the fuel pump relay, I'm sure it's 359 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a wiper relay or a fog light relay. 360 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: It'll be the same one. Match the part number, swap 361 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: it with the fuel pump relay. See if that gets 362 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: to start and put power back to the pump. If 363 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't, you've got to find out why that relay 364 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: is not being grounded and work your way out from there. Ron, 365 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: I wish you luck. If you need more, you know 366 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: where to find me. A five five five zero nine 367 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: zero rominating the car doctor coming back right after this. Hey, 368 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: welcome back n any of the car doctor taking the 369 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: morning train here at zero nine zero zero. Let's go 370 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: back to the busy phones and talk to Eric and 371 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: Homer Louisiana. Oh wait, Nissan Sentra. Eric, Welcome to the 372 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, how can I help? Thanks for run? Um? 373 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: Aren't two quick questions? If if I use a Wicks 374 00:18:52,520 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: premium filter and um, oh the uh take a breath? 375 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Synthetic synthetic oil, Yeah, the uh your favorite oil. I 376 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: came to remember the name of it up all synthetic 377 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: if I use that with the Wicks filter, Um, And 378 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to wait till five or six thousand 379 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: miles due to all change. And I don't want to 380 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: waste a lot of money. When is the sooner should 381 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: I change the oil? So let me ask you a question. 382 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: What are you using now? And how often are you 383 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: changing oil? Well, I was using pins are all but 384 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: not synthetic, and I was changing it every three thousand 385 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: So I'm using mixed mixed premium filter and the pins 386 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: are all synthetic. You know, a lot of this depends 387 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: on your driving style. Eric, you know, are you are 388 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: you a short trip? Are you around town? Are you 389 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: on the highway? Are your commutant? You know, a lot 390 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: of it depends on driving style. But you know, around 391 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: p soil synthetic and a good Wits filter. I'm gonna 392 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: tell you six thousand miles is a good interval. And 393 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you're wasting anything if you wanted to 394 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: stretch it to seven. Okay, I think beyond that, I 395 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: don't see the need. Number one and number two, this 396 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: is a nine year old vehicle, and here's the and 397 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: here's the disadvantage with with extended range oil changes. All right, 398 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: you know you start getting beyond six seven thousand miles 399 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: unless you tell me that, Hey, Ron, once a month, 400 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get under the hood and check fluid levels 401 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: and look at belts and hoses and look at all 402 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: the other things that I need to look at on 403 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: an eight nine year old vehicle. I think you're setting 404 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: yourself up for failure at some point. You know. Cars 405 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: are cars. Cars are like people. The older they get, 406 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: the more care they need, to a degree in order 407 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: to keep going. And it's to your it's to your advantage. 408 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: I think you miss understand my question. I don't I 409 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: don't want to go that long, so I want to 410 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: I want to change oil sooner, but I don't want 411 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: to change it really really soon. I should have changed Okay, Um, 412 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: five thousand miles, I think yeah, I think four. I 413 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: think four is a bit overkill. All right. You know 414 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: the rule of thumb is listen. The rule of thumb is, um, 415 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: I've got synthetic, I've got I've got this. I'm running 416 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: the same setup in the ranger, alright, the little shop 417 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: truck with two h thousand on it. I I shoot 418 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: for every four. Sometimes I make it by five. If 419 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: I go to six, I don't worry about it because 420 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: I know I've got quality in there, in in in 421 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: oil and the filter, and I don't have to sweat it, 422 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: all right, you know. But I do get under the 423 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: hood of the Ranger on a regular basis just to 424 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: see what's going on and you know, fluids and filters 425 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: and just looking at things and making sure that now 426 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: twenty year old vehicle with two hundred ten thousand miles 427 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: on it has got everything it needs to keep going. So, 428 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, not that I misunderstood it. I'm just 429 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: trying to also give you a balance here. Five thousand's fine, 430 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: six thousand's fine, to go beyond that. I'm just not 431 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: a fan of it, all right, I I you know, 432 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: But again, a lot of it depends on your driving style. 433 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: But from what you're telling me, five thousand miles, which 434 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: will come out to be every and we should talk 435 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: about time every how fast you're gonna do five thousand 436 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: miles Eric, four months, five months, three months? Okay? Yeah, 437 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: then three months five thousand miles you're gonna do five 438 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: thousand miles and three months you're doing a lot of driving. Brother, 439 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: So you know what, I put you on a I 440 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: put you on a D twenty days schedule at the 441 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: shop time wise, and I put you on at five 442 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: thousand mile interval. And you'll be just fine, absolutely And 443 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: you're using and you're using Pen's oil synthetic. You said, yeah, yeah, yeah, 444 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: you'll be fine. All right, You'll be absolutely fine, all right, sir. 445 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: The other question I had was, and I don't have 446 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: the paperwork confirmed me, but I got it dignosed that 447 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: I needed to place the right side catalytic converters P 448 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: zero four thirty or P zero Uh, it's that sounds 449 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: like it. But I don't have the paperworking for me. 450 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: So I got the I got the catalytic converters changed. 451 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Three days later, the check engine light came on again 452 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: and the same codes popped up. I went, I went 453 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: back over there. He cleared the codes and he told 454 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: me get back with him if they pop up again, 455 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: And sure enough, I got the check engine light on again. 456 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: What should you be looking for? Okay, so let me 457 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: ask the hard question. Who's who's catalytic converters did he use? 458 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: I'm not sure? After market, I'm sure right probably, so okay, 459 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: so let me tell you. Let me tell you why 460 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: a vehicle sets a catalytic converter efficiency code. All right, 461 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: there are there are two censors involved in this. Let's 462 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, bank per bank, so bank one. You've got 463 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: an oxygen censer, and simplest terms, you've got an oxygen 464 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: censor in front of the cat. You've got an oxygen 465 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: sensor after the cat. The oxygen sensor in front of 466 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: the cat is going to produce a mixed signal. It's 467 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: reacting to oxygen content as dictated by where fuel trim 468 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: is on the engine. So if the engines running lean 469 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: less fuel, it's gonna see a higher oxygen concentrate. If 470 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: it's running rich more fuel, it's gonna see a lower 471 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: oxygen concentrate. And the two sensor is gonna show that 472 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: high voltage low voltage. A catalytic converter is designed by 473 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do. It will store oxygen up 474 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: to a certain level. So while the front sensor is 475 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: bouncing all over the place, the sensor after the cat 476 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: is going to be at a steady fixed voltage. Generally 477 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: high is considered good and then at the right time 478 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: when it wants to when the catalytic converter goes into 479 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: its process, and the computer knows this. It will see 480 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: a change of state in the rear sensor, and it's 481 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: it's looking at the difference between the two. If your 482 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: mechanic goes in and looks at what it's O sensors 483 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: d O two sensors are doing, it's called an oxygen 484 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: storage capacity or osc oxygen storage capacity test. And if 485 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: he sees both sensors roughly the same, or if he 486 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: sees activity on the rear sensor along with the front sensor, 487 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: maybe not at the same level, what that tells me 488 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: is either the new cat is bad because new doesn't 489 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: mean good, or it tells me that the uh, there's 490 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: there's a bigger problem here, there's something else going on. Now. 491 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: A catalytic converter code can also be caused by engine temperature, 492 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: a thermostatic problem. It can also be caused by other 493 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: fuel trim issues. It's not always a CAT. Nowhere in 494 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: that float chart does it say P zero four twenty 495 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: change catalytic converter. It'll say P zero four zero four 496 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: thirty diagnosed as per manufacturer. And sometimes that's you know, 497 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of work. Everybody throws cats at 498 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: them because nobody wants to diagnose it. But you can 499 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: do an oxygen storage capacity test. There are several tests 500 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: to determine is it cat? Is its sensor? Is it 501 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: engine related? That being said, here's my argument against the 502 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: aftermarket cats and a lot of vehicles. And I know 503 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: the price is attractive. What did you pay for the repair? Eric? 504 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: Do you remember? I'm sure you do? Okay, for both cats? Right? Yeah, yeah, 505 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would venture to guess those 506 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: cats out of Nissan are probably a thousand apiece. Are 507 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: you pretty close? Yeah? Okay? And and and and the reason. 508 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: And here's my argument. All right, I always think of 509 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: a shoebox. I always think of women's shoes and men's shoes. Right, 510 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: the women's shoes, the shoe boxes a little smaller. The 511 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: men's shoebox. The shoebox is a little bigger, right, the 512 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: men's shoe boxes, the oe cat, the women's shoeboxes, the 513 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: aftermarket cat. All right, typically it's a third smaller. How 514 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: much longer? You know? How's that gonna last? And I 515 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: get it, it's a nine year old vehicle. How long 516 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: do we want it? To last. But the problem is, 517 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: depending upon what brand of cat it was, does it 518 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: even have the ability to meet minimum specification? And on 519 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: an older vehicle, how many miles are on this Okay, 520 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: not a lot. That's really not a lot for the 521 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: age of this truck. But you know, just breaking in baby, 522 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: all right, this thing will go two on a thousand. 523 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: You know what, I can tell you what's gonna go 524 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: wrong with this thing. It's gonna need timing chains at 525 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: a buck forty if it doesn't need them already. It's 526 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna go through a trans and maybe a lower radiator 527 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: cooler at some point, and catalytic converters. Other than that, 528 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: the truck will run forever. Parts will fall off it 529 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: because of rust, but the truck will run forever. Um, 530 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: you know. But my argument is after market cats versus Oh, 531 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: I just don't see the capacity and sometimes I don't 532 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: think they're up to doing the job. Have your mechanic 533 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: go back, run some more of those tests. If you've 534 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: got any more questions, give me a call back. We'll 535 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: go from there, all right, sir, Very welcome Eric eight 536 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: five five zero zero, run on any of the doctor 537 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back, weren't any of the 538 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: car doctor. Let's roll it along here, we're getting backed up. 539 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Nick in Texas ninety six jeep 540 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Cherokee and some problems with the way it's running on injectors. Nick, 541 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How can I help? Yes, sir, Well, 542 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: I've checked all the injectors, and I've checked all the 543 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: wiring and stuff, you know, and uh what I got is, uh, 544 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: I have and six on the injector wires. They'll turn 545 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: the key on and you get a little power coming out. 546 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: But uh with the tester uh uh whatever it's called 547 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: the own and not to own district. I've owned it too, 548 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: and I'll get power all the way over to one. Alright, 549 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: well here, let me let me Nick, let's start here. 550 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: What's actually what's actually wrong with the vehicle? What's it 551 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: doing that's that's generating this one? Call? Well that uh 552 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: five and six injector wires are not whole sating. Okay, 553 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: so you've got no So you've got no signal on 554 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: the two injector wires which on that cars. On five 555 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: it's gray and on six it's the um uh it's six, 556 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: it's the brown. Um. So in other words, you've got 557 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: power on the orange on each injector, but you've got 558 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: no pulse. You're using a little nooid light and you 559 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: get no blink blinks here. Okay, So and obviously you've 560 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: got two dead holes now right, So it's running on 561 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: four cylinders? Is a four oh I assume obviously it's 562 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: a six cylinder engine, so there's a four leader. So 563 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, did this happen overnight? Did this just you know, 564 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: gra I just now got it to that. Whenever I 565 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: got it, uh, it had a short on the ignition 566 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: wires coming out of the ignition going through the by 567 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: the frame or by the steering column. They were they 568 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: were short and out right there. So I changed the 569 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: ignition out. I've changed the the computer out, I've changed 570 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: the uh uh crank centers the the um because safety 571 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: switch did he uh, let's let's let's let's look. I 572 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: got I got the power going because they couldn't even 573 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: get a spark on it whenever I got it from 574 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: these other people. And uh then uh uh so I 575 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: figured out what was stopping a spark. But now the 576 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: injectors want fire off, all right, So let me ask 577 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: you this nick um. Just let's just cover the basics. 578 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Have you owned all the injectors to be sure that 579 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: they're all roughly the same? Yes, sir, Yes, sir. I've 580 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: changed them out from one to the other and stuff 581 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: like that. And only the four work. The first four work, 582 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: the last six, the last two won't want work. So 583 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: just just humor me, so I make a diagnostician out 584 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: of you. Just just just own all the injectors, if 585 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: you would, just I just I just want to hear 586 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: a number. I want to know six point eight ms, 587 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: eighteen olms, whatever it is, all right, And I don't 588 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: think it's gonna solve this car, and I'm not looking 589 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: to it, but I'm just trying to get you in 590 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: the habit of doing something, because once you start to 591 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: do it, you know, if I teach you how to 592 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: diagnose this one, you'll diagnose everyone the same and you'll 593 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: end up with a good running vehicle. So just just 594 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: omored for the sake of owming. If that's number one. 595 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Number two, you know, if you've got power on the 596 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: orange but you've got no signal on the gray or 597 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: the brown, then you know my next step is can 598 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: we can we own going back from the you know 599 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: the gray on number five. If we if we own 600 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: that wire back to the PCM, do we have continuity? Yes, 601 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: we did well if if you and that's what I 602 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: was wondering. That's what the mechanic asked me too. He says, 603 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: you might get a power surge right there and uh, 604 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, a power on when you turn the key on, 605 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: but you won't get the pulse because it might have 606 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: a slight break in the wire and uh, you get 607 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: good at OLMS reading and then uh, it might be 608 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: not enough connection right there to uh in the pulse. Listen, 609 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: I think I think this is simpler than that. I 610 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: think you've got continuity on the brown, you've got continuity 611 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: on the gray. And as long as you're on the 612 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: right wires, if nothing's shorted to each other, and you 613 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: should you should you should alm across them to see 614 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: could you have a possible short at harness because you're 615 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: you're describing a harness issue with this harness, because you're 616 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: kind of down to the point where if you've got 617 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: continuity in the harness and nothing's rubbing or touching that 618 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: PCM you put in is no good. That's the only 619 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: logical thing. That's the only logical thing left, you know, 620 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: is the driver shorted and you know that's um I'll 621 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: tell you what. Just stand the line one quick second 622 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: and um Nick, let me just go pull over and 623 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: take this poise. When we come back, I'll finish up 624 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: with zero. We're coming right back. Don't go away. Welcome 625 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: back of the card ocurated by five zero zero, Nick, Texas, 626 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: you're still there, sir. Correct. Here's what I want you 627 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: to do, all right, listen to me. I want you 628 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: to unplug number five injector. All right. You're gonna have 629 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: hot on the orange and you're gonna have nothing on 630 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: that gray correct. All right, So think about that gray wire, 631 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: all right. I want you to insert. I want you 632 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: to get a headlight. I want to do a loaded 633 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: I want to do a loaded circuit test, all right. 634 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: I want you to get a headlight. Put the hot 635 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: leg of the headlight into the gray wire. Put the 636 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: other leg of the headlight to ground. Okay. I want 637 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: you to find that wire that you believe is correct, 638 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: that gray wire at the PCM disconnected. Put twelve vaults 639 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: on that wire. Use it, use it, use a fused source. Okay. 640 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: So there's a short, We're gonna blow the fuse and 641 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: not fry something. All right, If that circuit's good, the 642 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: headlight's got a light. Correct, If the headlight, if that 643 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: circuit can handle the load of the headlight, what's left 644 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: the driver in the PCM right, got you, and I 645 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: want you to do the same thing to number six, Yeah, 646 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: to the gray right, all right? No, the number six 647 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: is yet to the brown. Number six is the brown, right, yeah, yeah, 648 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: number six is the brown rights. Yeah, my, my, you know, 649 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: my mind tells me bad, PCM. But you know, I'm 650 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: not there seeing the vehicle, and I've got this picture 651 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: in my head of a vehicle thinking before I unwrapped 652 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: all the the wire, the the whatever it's called, all 653 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: the wire on the underneath a dash, I mean underneath 654 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: a hood right there, and traced all those wires back, 655 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: made sure whatn't any shorts? There was one short on 656 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: the air circuit on the in fake on the air 657 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: and uh, there was one short right there and that 658 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: goes to the same spot right back where the uh, 659 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: all the wires from the injectory. Yeah, I think, and Nick, 660 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: the clock is gonna take me. I'm sorry, babe, but 661 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: I think you've got a harness issue here, and I 662 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: want you to make sure of it before you go 663 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: put PCMs and to try a loaded circuit test. See 664 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: where that goes. I'm nominating the card doctor if the 665 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, good, placeless