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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast will Never Die. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the League Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas and I'm joined by some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg ros It's all what up? Boas

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Speaker 1: heit in what ut Sunday? Sunday Sunday? No cessler today. Um,

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Speaker 1: but that is something we will overcome. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot of great games to get to in week eleven. Uh, Greg,

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Speaker 1: how would you define Week eleven? Good football? Bad football?

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Speaker 1: Medium football? It was good. Not a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: so that's good. I think a lot of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that have been kind of coming up kind of fell

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Speaker 1: back to the pack of these replacement quarterbacks. That was

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Speaker 1: certainly a theme. This week will start with the Sunday

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Speaker 1: night game. It was the game of the week. The

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs become the final team to go down

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Speaker 1: for their first loss of the season. The Broncos took

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Speaker 1: care of business at home. We all saw this coming,

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Speaker 1: uh the A T L two crew. But the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: did put up a fight, right was they did? I

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Speaker 1: think our question was to the Chiefs have the offense

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Speaker 1: But I don't think we can say that their offense

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Speaker 1: can hang right. I feel like there's a feeling around

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Speaker 1: this game just watching the broadcast that oh, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: kind of hung in there like they did a good job.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, give you a break. It was three

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Speaker 1: score game with nine months ago. That's pretty much every

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Speaker 1: Broncos game that it feels like Alex Smith played a

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Speaker 1: fairly good game and the defense played a fairly good game,

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Speaker 1: and yet it really wasn't that competitive. Isn't that a

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Speaker 1: bad sign? Well, I think you can tell Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: put okay, he missed some throws. He still doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: to trust his arm. They Charles Jamal Charles has a

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Speaker 1: higher yards per carry average and Alex Smith does net

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Speaker 1: yards per passing attempt, Which that's that's not that's not

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Speaker 1: all that Atlantish for the Chiefs. It happens once in

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Speaker 1: a while. They tried to go deep and it just

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Speaker 1: didn't work. Well, you have to Alex Smith is throwing

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Speaker 1: into Marius Thomas, Eric Decker, West Welker, Julius Thomas. I

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Speaker 1: think maybe part of what it is Greg two is

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Speaker 1: I think so many people had. Even though they kept

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Speaker 1: winning almost there was a frustration setting in that how

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Speaker 1: does this team keep winning. They're not beating any good teams,

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Speaker 1: they're not playing well, and maybe there was some thought

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Speaker 1: blown off by the end of the first half, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't quite like that. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: this is the Broncos team that weren't running on all

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Speaker 1: which tells us that, yes, the Broncos are the best

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Speaker 1: team in that division. And now the Broncos are in

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Speaker 1: position to be where everyone kind of expects them to

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Speaker 1: not being locked into that fifth seed, although they're now

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Speaker 1: both tied at nine and one, Well, you could argue,

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Speaker 1: I think easily this was their easiest game in a month.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they go to New England and then they

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Speaker 1: of their season, because after that, it's cake. It's Cake City.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna win down the stretch, so they need if

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Speaker 1: they win those two games, they get the one seat.

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Speaker 1: If they split, we'll see. I think they have to

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Speaker 1: be encouraged by how their defense is playing too. We

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Speaker 1: And you know one thing about the game and in

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Speaker 1: Not going for it on fourth and seven in the

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Speaker 1: It just showed that the Chiefs were really not to

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Speaker 1: That said a lot to me about the Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs, Okay. And then our second

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Speaker 1: game is gonna be about that penalty called on the

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Speaker 1: hit on Drew Brees that gave the Saints new life.

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Speaker 1: In real time, I'm sure it looked to the official

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Speaker 1: up winning the game. Greg. Greg and I both we

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Speaker 1: were sitting next to each other. We have different viewpoints

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Speaker 1: violent game. This is what drives me crazy about this.

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Speaker 1: It was, Yes, it was very close to his neck,

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Speaker 1: and Breeze's neck reacted violently. But because it was a

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Speaker 1: the thing. A replay confirms it. He hit him in

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Speaker 1: a play like this, to me, illustrates that in their

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Speaker 1: And this ended this game. It turns maybe if the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners wanted to win the game, they shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: talk about the game itself. West. What else happened besides

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Speaker 1: right now. Kaepernick ause every four yards per throw combined

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Speaker 1: Let's called the opposite direction with Gino. He's going to

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Speaker 1: you know who's Matt Sims, but he had Gino was

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Speaker 1: threw another pick six. He has now twenty turnovers this season,

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Speaker 1: including sixteen picks. The Geno coasters off the rails. Didn't

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Speaker 1: you give up on him a month ago? And then

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Speaker 1: gone through this before. Well that's why it's called a

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Speaker 1: Geno coaster. Greg. Well, but in you having Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: he's not getting better, and I think the Jets are

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Speaker 1: he looks down the field. Shop does not. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure after having eight point two percent of his touchdowns

429
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Speaker 1: in the last two games under Keenum, Johnson probably isn't

430
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Speaker 1: thrilled to see the human pick six back behind center,

431
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Speaker 1: and I will say, understand, the frustration has to be

432
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Speaker 1: playing into effect there with Johnson. And I know he's

433
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Speaker 1: been a you know, a great guy's entire career, but

434
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Speaker 1: that was wrong for him to walk off the field,

435
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: and that makes Shop look bad. It makes a bad

436
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Speaker 1: situation worse. Hes done. He's done in Houston. He's he's

437
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: in the man, He's in the Sanchez territory at there.

438
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: The butt fuon Well, the fans will never accept him again.

439
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: They were booing him and cat calling him during the

440
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: game to the point where Shop couldn't make adjustments that

441
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Speaker 1: the line is they actually go to a silent count

442
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: right because they were the home fans were booing Job

443
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Speaker 1: that much. It's tough, r Kubiak, but these are the

444
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: types of games that get you fired. I don't think

445
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: there's any coming back from this one. Totally agree and West.

446
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: Here we go four and six. Now, uh, the Oakland

447
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: Raiders are they need to get to six wins. And

448
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: now it's looking pretty rough for you in the softball pants.

449
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: It's almost to the point where we could start talking

450
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Speaker 1: about what part of your softball pants are you going

451
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: to eat? Do you understand that we need to start

452
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Speaker 1: putting together some type of game plan. Well, I always

453
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Speaker 1: thought if I was a cannibal, I would go for

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Speaker 1: the calf. That seems to be the juicy part. Maybe

455
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Speaker 1: I would take that part of the softball pans. But

456
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Speaker 1: if you go because you don't ultimately get to choose,

457
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Speaker 1: we could will take it into effect. If you choose calf,

458
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you eat the elastic at the bottom

459
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Speaker 1: of the pants. It would be like eating calamari. Yes,

460
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Speaker 1: And I actually I reached out to Greg on this.

461
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Speaker 1: I said, can you get your wife, who is a

462
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Speaker 1: chef involved and maybe maybe we could get her on

463
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Speaker 1: the phone. We could talk to her. She doesn't know

464
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Speaker 1: about this yet though she doesn't, but she'll be she'll

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Speaker 1: be on board. I mean, who wouldn't want to see

466
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Speaker 1: Chris Wesley need us off? But I think she'd probably

467
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Speaker 1: be up for a challenge about a lawsuit. Though what

468
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Speaker 1: if Chris dies? I'm cool with that. This is a

469
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: guy are forgetting about Chef k Ridge. We're about to

470
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: have things given, all right, I like this throwing her Well,

471
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: you you can make like the dessert or you guys

472
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Speaker 1: will figure it out. We're gonna. What's your specialty, Cambridge.

473
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Speaker 1: My specialty is anything I can literally cook almost anything.

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Speaker 1: K Rich a woman that is to be reckoned with. Yes,

475
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Speaker 1: I'm manna need to get my Big Green Egg involved

476
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Speaker 1: in this. It's been out of commission since I moved

477
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Speaker 1: to my apartment. They won't let me use a smoker

478
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Speaker 1: I don't understand any of the last Big Green Egg

479
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Speaker 1: is a ceramics smoker grill that I can't use. This

480
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: sounds like Cincinnati talk right now. It was Georgia Talk,

481
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: Georgia talk, Tybee Island. Carson Palmers threw for four hundred

482
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Speaker 1: nineteen yards and two touchdowns. Wait what Carson Palmers threw

483
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Speaker 1: for four hundred nineteen yards or years? Uh? He did

484
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: not throw an interception for the first time all year,

485
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Speaker 1: leading the Cardinals to win over the Jacks on Sunday.

486
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Speaker 1: We talked about it on Friday that the Cardinals were

487
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Speaker 1: well set up here. Uh, they were five and four

488
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: and they had the Jaguars coming up. They took care

489
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Speaker 1: of business as they needed to do. And now Greg,

490
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are six and four, right in the

491
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Speaker 1: mix and the NFC playoff race. Did anyone see it coming? No, Well,

492
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Speaker 1: we did a couple of weeks ago and we envisioned

493
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Speaker 1: this scenario and it's us, but we're the best yea.

494
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Speaker 1: And they play the Colts next week in Arizona. I

495
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Speaker 1: think that's a winnable game for them. I think they'll

496
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Speaker 1: stay in the mix. But when you look at the NFC,

497
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Speaker 1: there's eight teams with at least six wins, so it's

498
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Speaker 1: not like they're in great position. And that doesn't even

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Speaker 1: include the Packers, who I expect to come on late

500
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Speaker 1: in the season. So even though they've been a good story,

501
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Speaker 1: you're gonna need ten or eleven wins to make the

502
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Speaker 1: playoffs in the NFC, and I still don't think Arizona

503
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: is gonna get there. We've killed Carson palmer or I

504
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: personally have on this podcast several times, but I we

505
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Speaker 1: should give him credit. I one of my takeaways when

506
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Speaker 1: I watched this game on the Cardinals on game rewind

507
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Speaker 1: last week was that palmer head is either first or

508
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Speaker 1: second best game of the year last week, and now

509
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: this is his best game of the year. So back

510
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Speaker 1: to back two very good games. It looks like their

511
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Speaker 1: passing game is starting to click. I didn't see this

512
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Speaker 1: game today, but I'm guessing he's starting to get better

513
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Speaker 1: pass protection. It's the Jaguars who don't have a pass

514
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Speaker 1: for rush, so that probably has a lot to do

515
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Speaker 1: with it. And Michael Floyd with a hundred and ninety

516
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Speaker 1: three yards the receiving cars. I mean, it's an interesting team,

517
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Speaker 1: but Fitzgerald should finally be getting back to full speed.

518
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Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul scored on a leaping twenty four yard

519
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter interception return, and the resurgent New York Giants

520
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Speaker 1: won their fourth straight game over the slumping and injury

521
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Speaker 1: riddled Packers. On Sunday, I watched this game. The Giants

522
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Speaker 1: have Yes, they've won four in a row. They did

523
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Speaker 1: not play well in the first three wins they played.

524
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Speaker 1: They played pretty well today and yes, uh Scott Tolzien

525
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Speaker 1: was prominently involved, so you have to factor that in.

526
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Speaker 1: But the Giants they have a shot here, and if

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Speaker 1: you look at their upcoming schedule, they have the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at home next week, which is going to be a

529
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Speaker 1: close game, but a winnable game, and then on the

530
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Speaker 1: road in Washington again the game there's no reason why

531
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Speaker 1: they shouldn't win that game. They can very easily get

532
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: back to six and six. What does it say about

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Speaker 1: the state of Jason Pierre Paul's career that when you

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Speaker 1: said that, I immediately pictured an old lady in a

535
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Speaker 1: wheelchair leaping out and into the end zone. Well, I'm

536
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Speaker 1: for his health. When he said he leaped, he leapt

537
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Speaker 1: into the end zone. In his defense, he looked like

538
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Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul that. Remember, it wasn't an old guy

539
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Speaker 1: reaching back into the time machine like this was legitimately

540
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: an athletic play, great catch and then the runback. It

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Speaker 1: was something that the Giants need to actually be a

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Speaker 1: team this year. There, I mean, they're in it, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still They got out gained by

544
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Speaker 1: the Packers and Tolzine by sixty yards in this game.

545
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Speaker 1: That's worth a lot of garbage. That's Tolzine. That's worth

546
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Speaker 1: pointing out that they moved the ball fairly well on them.

547
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Speaker 1: It really comes down in next week's game for all this,

548
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, momentum in the four game winning streak, their

549
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: season is over if they don't be the Cowboys. But

550
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Speaker 1: if you win that game that they're right in it it.

551
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, Greg, you said earlier that you might

552
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: need uh ten or eleven wins in the NFC. Now

553
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: that now the Packers are sitting at five and five,

554
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: and it makes you wonder, not that the Packers will

555
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: do anything to risk Rogers's long term health, but they

556
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: have their their next game coming up. Is it possible

557
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: he comes back early to try to write things. They're

558
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: in a three game losing streak. Now they have to

559
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: get that game. I mean, that's to me. The key

560
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: game right now is the home game against the Vikings.

561
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: You can't lose that game at this point. I'm sure

562
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: they'll do everything possible, but who knows. Nick Foles through

563
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: yards and ran for a touchdown. Lashawn McCoy had two

564
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns rushing, and the Eagles snapped a ten game home

565
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: losing streak with win over those slumping Redskins. Uh. The

566
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: Eagles are now in pretty good shape. They're now in

567
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: at six and four. They're in total control. Wes, What

568
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Speaker 1: did you take out of this one? Oh? Wait a second,

569
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: another sneak attack by carriage. But give her the floor.

570
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: She deserves it. Guys, What what can I say? I'm

571
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: all smiles today, you see me? I came in with

572
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: the green pants. The Eagles had on. Just looks like

573
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: an Eagle cheerleader with some kind of high heeled boots on. Yeah,

574
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I have to have to run down a couple of

575
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: points if you guys don't mind. First in the NFC East,

576
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Speaker 1: first first time all season that we've been first in

577
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Speaker 1: our division, with our first win at home all season.

578
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: That was hard to endure as an Eagles fan, knowing

579
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Speaker 1: that you can't win at home with crazy fans. Folds

580
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: through for two hundred and ninety eight yards and he

581
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: looked really good. I had that first. I said that

582
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Speaker 1: to the people before you said that you did yeaheah, Well,

583
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: he he looked great. He has never he had a

584
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: rushing touchdown where he looked like a really good, almost

585
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback. You know he's a traditional pocket passer, but

586
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: he stretched out his body to break playing. He looked great,

587
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: shady to rushing TVs. And what I was most impressed

588
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: with was the defense. A little worried into the third

589
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, but we looked really good. Yeah that's see.

590
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: That's a good point, greg. This defense is getting better,

591
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: isn't It's maybe not such a liability anymore. They give

592
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: up a lot of yards, but they've been good in

593
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: the red zone. They've been good in the key spots.

594
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: They've been much better since the first month of the season.

595
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: They haven't allowed more than twenty one points in their

596
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Speaker 1: last seven games. The Chiefs are the only other team

597
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL to have a stretch like that this year.

598
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: This defense is better than you think. The defensive front

599
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: seven owned the line of scrimmage, pressured r G three

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Speaker 1: throughout the game. Connor Barwin had an excellent game. Fletcher

601
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: Cox and Cedric Thornton are great defensive ends. This this

602
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: team looks I mean, the last three weeks, they've been

603
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: so impressive. I think they've they've overtaken the Cowboys as

604
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: a team to beat in this division. And I don't

605
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Speaker 1: know if it's even close. Can you give us the

606
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: the RG three weekly update? Are we done? I think

607
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: this is it at this point. After this week, we

608
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: don't need the RG three weekly committees getting together. I

609
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: can tell you that held the ball too long, missed

610
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: wide open receivers, took too many hits. Again. Um didn't

611
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Speaker 1: move the ball until the Eagles took their foot off

612
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: the gas battle in the third quarter. He had eight

613
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Speaker 1: past attempts at halftime. Yeah, this is it for the Redskins.

614
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Speaker 1: We were a little hesitant because they were three and

615
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Speaker 1: six at this point last season. They could have been

616
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Speaker 1: in the mix. But we don't need to build any drama.

617
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: This team has done well. Yes, but the committee, it's

618
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Speaker 1: rest together and fools, we should say. You know, since

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Speaker 1: his concussion and if you've ever read anything about religious gurus, uh,

620
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 1: of course, well, they usually get enlightenment by a some

621
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Speaker 1: kind of physical malady or illness. It sends him to

622
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: the bed for a period of time. They have to

623
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: come to grips with something and this maybe jogs something

624
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: in them that I think maybe there was some enlightenment

625
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: with Nick Foles. He's going through his progressions, which is

626
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Speaker 1: basically the difference between him and Michael Vick in that

627
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: offense fools as scenes per agressions and finding the mismatch

628
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Speaker 1: on most place. If you're hinting that concussions are good,

629
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Speaker 1: there was a seventeen foot tall shadowy League figure behind

630
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Speaker 1: ready to strike you down. The concussions are not good,

631
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Speaker 1: But in in Full's case, it's undeniable that he's averaging

632
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: thirteen yards per attempt. Since then, I owe an apology

633
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: to Chip Kelly, because I was starting to really enjoy

634
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: the uh, the slump that the offense was in a

635
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: few ago. I was really getting into that idea that

636
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: he this guy could come into the NFL and revolutionize things.

637
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's revolutionizing the game, but they

638
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: are a really good offense and it's because of what

639
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: he's installed there. How about I mean, Nick Foles is

640
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: still another week where now he has sixteen touchdowns and

641
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: no interceptions. You know, all we talked about was rookie

642
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year. If you're doing the second year quarterback

643
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: rankings right now, you got Luck and Russell Wilson still

644
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: at the top, but then you got falls ahead of

645
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: r G three and if Ryan Taniel just on this season,

646
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm not saying long term, but I'm just

647
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: saying this season he's playing that well. Yes, now we're

648
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: getting into a D territory. Would you take Nick Foles?

649
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: Randy Dalton, Yeah, so would I. Ben Roethlisberger passed for

650
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: three sixty seven yards and four touchdowns, including two in

651
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: the final five minutes, and the Steelers rallied and the

652
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Steelers rallied someday to beat the Lines thirty seven seven.

653
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: Greg As, Again, as a fan that's rooting for a

654
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: team in the back end of that a f c

655
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: UH playoff pile up, I'm a little nervous that the

656
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna make a play here. What do you

657
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: think you watch this game? This is a team you

658
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I you still don't know watching them week

659
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: to week. I think the thing we can say about

660
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: the Steelers at their offense has definitely gotten better as

661
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: the season has gone along. I think Ben Roethlisberger has

662
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: played pretty well all season, but he's playing better now,

663
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: and they're able to throw the ball. They're able to

664
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: give up some points and still come back and win

665
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: the game. Then again, they give up twenty seven points

666
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. At halftime, it looked like Calvin

667
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Johnson and Matthew Stafford, we're gonna break every record in

668
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: the book. But they held Matthew Stafford to only forty

669
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: five yards in the second half. He had over I

670
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: think it was three twenty yards in the first half,

671
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: and they just shut them down in the second. But

672
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: it's such an up and down team from game to game,

673
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: week to week. I don't quite trust them, but they're dangerous.

674
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: They scored twenty seven points in the second quarter and

675
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: we're shut out the other three quarters. Yes, that's the

676
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: first time in NFL history that that's ever happened. We

677
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: were sitting there in the second quarter discussing this and

678
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: basically saying that le Beau, Paula Malu, Ryan Clark, and

679
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: Brett Keisel would all be gone after the season. And

680
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: then they hold Stafford to second half yards. Do you

681
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: did you see this as le Beau making some kind

682
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: of critical adjustment at halftime. Stafford missed some throws for sure,

683
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: but no, the Steelers defense played well overall. Wasn't all

684
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: mistakes by Detroit. I mean they didn't just shut them down.

685
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: They didn't do anything. I mean they had over four

686
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards in the first half and they wound up

687
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: with four hundred and fifty total yards, so it was

688
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: a total shutdown. I mean, here are the drives for

689
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: Detroit in the second half two yards, punt negative ten yards,

690
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: punt fumble, interception, two yards, undowns and as about as

691
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: dominant as you can. They had one decent drive and

692
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: they fumbled it. Yeah, it just makes you think of

693
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: the Steelers can do that some of the time. Why

694
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: is it that they hemorrhage points other times. And also

695
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: this this feeds into my feeling about the lines, which

696
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: is if they're at home, I feel like they could

697
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: probably beat anybody, but on the road, I feel like

698
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: they can lose to anybody. So I'm not really that

699
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: excited about this Lions team. I think that's true. I

700
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: think that's true that they can play or be anyone

701
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: in the entire league. Nothing surprises me with them. I

702
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: think they're a year away. They need some they need

703
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: some receivers to complement Calvin Johnson, and they need help

704
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: in the secondary. That Thanksgiving game against the Packers is

705
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: gonna be big. I mean, they're still tied for first

706
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: place with the Bears, who I like to try it

707
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: a little bit better than Chicago. Bobby Rainey rushed for

708
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty three yards and scored three touchdowns.

709
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: That's Bobby Rainey, the third running back up for the Bucks.

710
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: Now and the Bucks had a win over the free

711
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Fall in Atlanta Falcons. I watch this game. This is

712
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: one that is not much to take out of it.

713
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: The Falcons are in the tank, They've been that way

714
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: for weeks. Uh, the Bucks are on the Bucks end.

715
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: This is this is the only interesting thing I really

716
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: took out of this greg Ciano. With a strong finish,

717
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: he can make a real case to keep his job.

718
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: He they are playing very hard. They even in these losses,

719
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: they've played hard. Now they're starting to get some results.

720
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: That's back to back wins, Greg, I ask you, if

721
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: they get to five wins, oh, I think he's saved,

722
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: greg Ciano, Yeah, I think it's safe. I think they'll

723
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: look for an excuse to keep them. They signed him

724
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: to a big five year contract, and if if they

725
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: end with a five and three second half run and

726
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: the way they're playing now, they could pull it off.

727
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: But the schedule is tough for them coming up. This

728
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: This game, though, made me start thinking could the Falcons

729
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: wind up with the number one overall draft pick? They

730
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: still still one ahead of the Jaguars, but I don't

731
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: know if they're winning another game. I would like to

732
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: see Jadavean Clowney on that team right exactly. They desperately

733
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: need to go. Did you watch this game? Dan? Yes?

734
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: Can we get a little credit for predicting that he

735
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: would fall flat on his face after they lost Julio Jones,

736
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: because that's exactly what's happened. You do deserve credit for that.

737
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. You know, this has been obviously a lost

738
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: season for Atlanta, but Matt Ryan stock is taking a

739
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: hit this year. He's been a terrible quarterback on the road.

740
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: He has now nine interceptions in the past four games. Um,

741
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: obviously all Atlanta losses. I think, you know, I think

742
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: that Ryan is still a very good quarterback, but losing

743
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: Julio Jones kind of, you know, it showed that maybe

744
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: he's not at the level of these higher echelon quarterbacks.

745
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I think this is what Matt Ryan is. If you

746
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: surround him with good talent, you're gonna have a winning team.

747
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: But he's not like Aaron Rodgers where he can take

748
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: whatever you throw out there and make it good. Right.

749
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: I think I think we're seeing that for sure. Um.

750
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think many many franchises would die to

751
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: have Matt Ryan. Absolutely trench. He's a top ten quarterback,

752
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: no doubt. Six. This score was late in the third

753
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: one win team over the Falcons. That is some low

754
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: low moments for Atlanta, who, by the way, is gonna

755
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: be on NFL Network Thursday night. Tune in And for

756
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: those who were curious, Mike Smith's job is safe. He's

757
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. That's not a surprise as it No,

758
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: not at all, But I keep hearing speculation that he

759
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: should have to answer for this, and I don't, you know,

760
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: I think when you have a depleted roster like that,

761
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: you know twit. Yeah, thank you, Miami. The Miami Dolphins

762
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: held San Diego without a touchdown over the final three quarters,

763
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: and Brent Grimes broke up a Philip Rivers final passing

764
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the end zones time expired, giving the Dolphins aten win.

765
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: On Sunday, the Dolphins, you know, it's funny because you

766
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: had all this stuff obviously going on with Incognito and

767
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan Martin. Then you had a bad loss to a

768
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: winless team and everyone, you know, there was a fire

769
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: land committees getting together, but also took was one win,

770
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: and there it reminds everyone that they're right in the

771
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: middle of this mix. They are tied for the number

772
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: six spot. So just everyone that said the the locker

773
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: room thing was too much to overcome, but oh, but

774
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: now that they won, they've overcome diversity, And why can't

775
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: we all just agree that maybe we don't know how

776
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: off the field stuff affects on the field because they

777
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: look like the same team to me. They lost a

778
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: couple of offensive linemen, but they were mediocre before and

779
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: their mediocre now. And every game they play comes down

780
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: to the last possession and they win one and then

781
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: they lose one, and all all that stuff that we've

782
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: talked about off the field, I don't think really makes

783
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: any difference. There an eight and eight type of team

784
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: in in the a f C this year. That might

785
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: be good enough. What about the deep love affair that

786
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Greg and West have for Philip Rivers. There's not a

787
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: lot different between this and you know, both of you

788
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: guys love them. Maybe I'm wrong about what m v

789
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: P talk about Philip Rivers the Chargers. There's still a

790
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: mediocre team. Yeah, I don't have any love for Philip Rivers.

791
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: They're not playing great on offense. They have such a

792
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: small margin for error. But I mean, he had eight

793
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: point eight yards for past They ran the ball well.

794
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: They couldn't win this game. You have to give the

795
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins defense credit because San Diego had some chances to

796
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: win it late. Tannehill. Actually I didn't think played a

797
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: great game. I mean he missed some throws. Uh, It

798
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: didn't really show up in the box corp. But I

799
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: don't think he played that well. The offensive line from

800
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Miami played well San Diego. To me, he still has

801
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: one of the worst defense in the league. They get

802
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: no pass rush. Let me ask you, Greg, because I

803
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: know you've watched Tannehill very closely and you like him

804
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: a lot um Through now ten games of his second season,

805
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: where would you put him right now? What do you

806
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: think about he stagnated a little bit in the second year.

807
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: I think he's had moments where you were excited, especially early.

808
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: I think it's been a little frustrating that he hasn't

809
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: developed more. That's where That's what I'd say, But it

810
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: doesn't really change my long term belief in him. Percy

811
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: Harvin made an impact in a season debut, returning a

812
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: kickoff fifty eight yards late in the first half to

813
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: set up a Russell Russell Wilson nineteen yard touchdown past

814
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: the Doug Baldwin and the Seahawks rolled to a franchise

815
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: record thirteen straight home win with a victory over the Vikings.

816
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: I watched this game, uh, Percy Harvin. They only targeted

817
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: he got some good on field time. They only targeted

818
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: him once. He had a great kind of circus catch

819
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: that kept a touchdown drive alive and then he had

820
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: that great run back. It only happened because uh Jermaine

821
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Kurr suffered a concussion which pressed Harvan into kickoff duties.

822
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: But he looked good, he looked fast, So that's a

823
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: really good sign. The Seahawks now go into Thereby at

824
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: ten and one, in complete control in the NFC West

825
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: three game lead UM, and then we talked about that

826
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: uh number one seed, whether they were gonna get it.

827
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: The real test is gonna come out of that bye

828
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: week because they come out of the bye and they

829
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: have the Saints. They have a home game against the

830
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, which is gonna obviously be a tough one,

831
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: and then they go to San Francisco and play the

832
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: Niners at the stick. If they come out of the

833
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: those two games UM with wins, they're gonna probably roll

834
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: to that number one seed. But that that will be

835
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: the big test. Oh, that Saints game is good. That's

836
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Monday night football game. And all the Saints have to

837
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: do is win on Thursday here against Atlanta and that

838
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: matchup will basically be for who's got the number one seed.

839
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Everything's on the line and and uh on the Viking side,

840
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Christian Ponder got benched. He was he was okay in

841
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: the first half, and then the wheels kind of came

842
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: off in the second half through two picks, including a

843
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: ugly pick six that probably is on the shortlist of

844
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: his worst passes ever. Matt Castle finished the game. After

845
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: the game, Leslie Fraser would not comment on who would

846
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: be the starter at Lambeo. But you have to wonder,

847
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: is this this might be the end of the road

848
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: for Ponder as the man in Minnesota. This coaching staff

849
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: has no idea what to do at quarterback. At quarterback,

850
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: they're like, well, they're like a lovely Smith team. They

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Speaker 1: have no idea where that what they're doing from week

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Speaker 1: to week. How does it make any sense to go

853
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Speaker 1: to Matt Castle of points down in the fourth quarter?

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Speaker 1: What does that do for your team? Why not put

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Speaker 1: in Josh Freeman and see what he has. They don't

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00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: know how to coach defense either, Worth pointing out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the other problem, like they don't

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Speaker 1: even really know who their backup is. That they have

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Speaker 1: these two guys that they seem to be the backup

860
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Speaker 1: is and a week ago they were saying, this is

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Speaker 1: Ponder's job to lose, and we hope he takes it

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, and then they pull

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Speaker 1: him in the fourth quarter. It's tricky rushing Rodgers back

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Speaker 1: for this week because if you're Mike McCarthy, you have

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Speaker 1: to feel pretty confident you can beat the Vikings that

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Speaker 1: if we can't beat the Vikings even with Tolzine, we've

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Speaker 1: got problems. I wish this would be one of those things,

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Speaker 1: like a common sense thing. It never works out this way,

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Speaker 1: but why wouldn't you start Tolzine and see how the

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Speaker 1: game's going, and then if you get in trouble, get

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Speaker 1: Rogers in there, Like why wouldn't that be something that

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Speaker 1: could could be done? Why is why don't they have coaches?

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Speaker 1: I think if you were to do that, you would

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Speaker 1: have to like Rogers could be the only one in

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Speaker 1: on that game plan. You couldn't let the rest of

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Speaker 1: the team know that he was available, right, I don't,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even think have them on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: during the game. I think the entrance music like Willis

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: Reid coming out of the tunnel, or what if they

880
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: built one of those underground like platforms and then you

881
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: had it like spring up and he comes out and

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Speaker 1: the smoke comes up. Maybe it's bon Jovi and have

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Speaker 1: one of those effects gladiator type of deal. They need

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Speaker 1: something they need. I would be on board with that.

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Speaker 1: This now we're starting to go into damage X vision

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Speaker 1: for the NFL. WW. Absolutely, this is all all good

887
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: stuff that will never happen sadly. Alright. That is it.

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Speaker 1: That is all the week eleven games. There is one

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00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: more game Monday night, and it's a great one. It

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Speaker 1: is the Patriots going to Carolina to face the Panthers

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Speaker 1: five game winning streak Panthers. That will be one. We

892
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: don't always talk about the Monday night game on the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday pod, but we might have to talk about that

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Speaker 1: one when it comes. I think we will. We can't

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Speaker 1: predict the future though either you know who knows, Maybe

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Speaker 1: we won't talk about it. It's the a t L

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Speaker 1: S team, the official Carolina Panthers. It's fair. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we will be back on Wednesday. Until then, this

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson signing off for the Mailman, the Boss

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Speaker 1: k Rich behind the Glass and Lyle the A t

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Speaker 1: L And until Wednesday,