WEBVTT - How Did the Winter Olympics Change Sports?

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what will what's that mango?

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what my favorite part of the Winter

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics is, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I think I want to guess on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna guess the bobs led.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's super fun. But my favorite armchair sport

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<v Speaker 2>at the Olympics is trying to spot the carpetbaggers.

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<v Speaker 1>The carpetbaggers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know you see it in the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 2>but especially in the Winter Olympics, Like at Sochi, there

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<v Speaker 2>was this couple from Long Island in their late forties

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<v Speaker 2>who thought would be fun to compete at the Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>for Dominica, which is this tiny island nation in the Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 2>And you'd obviously have to be super fit to be

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<v Speaker 2>in your late forties and make the US ski team, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but in Dominica you kind of just have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a pair of skis in a passport.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, how prevalent is this carpetbaggering? How do

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<v Speaker 3>they get away with this?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it is discouraged, but sometimes it's like elite

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<v Speaker 2>athletes who couldn't make cut in their country where they live,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you know they want to compete for their

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<v Speaker 2>country of origin, and sometimes it's athletic mercenaries, like Bahrain

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<v Speaker 2>is notorious for buying Kenyans to long distance for their nation.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there are these wealthy crazies who could just

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<v Speaker 2>buy their way in, like Germany has this prince named

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<v Speaker 2>Hubertus who was born in Mexico, but it's competed for

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<v Speaker 2>Mexico in slalom six times. I believe wow at Sochi,

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<v Speaker 2>he was fifty five years old when he's doing this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you might remember him from wearing this outrageous spandex

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<v Speaker 2>mariachi outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna look him up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember this, he said. If he wasn't gonna win,

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<v Speaker 2>at least he could name for best dressed. Getting excited

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<v Speaker 2>to spot these Olympic outcasts made me wonder about all

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<v Speaker 2>the other things at the Winter Olympics, like when did

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<v Speaker 2>the Winter Olympics start? And why does Norway dominate the games?

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<v Speaker 2>And why does curling get to be a sport. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's stay in.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Will Pearson and it's always I'm joined by my good

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<v Speaker 3>friend Mangesh hut Ticketter and on the other side, of

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<v Speaker 3>the soundproof glass, showing off his brand new Winter Olympic

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<v Speaker 3>stuffed animal pal. I don't know how he got a

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<v Speaker 3>hold of that. That's our friend and producer Tristan McNeil.

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<v Speaker 3>Look over there, Mango at Sue Harang, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>white tiger mascot for the upcoming Games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd recognize them anywhere. So I love that the

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<v Speaker 2>Winter Olympics get their own mascots. It's actually one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite things about the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, the winner Games might play second fiddle

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of scale and viewership, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the mascots, those things can go toe to toe with

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<v Speaker 3>their summer cousins. In fact, one thing I learned while

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<v Speaker 3>preparing for today's show is that we actually have the

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<v Speaker 3>Winter Games to thank for this whole idea of these

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<v Speaker 3>Olympic mascots. You know, they didn't start out as this

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<v Speaker 3>cute and cuddly animal like Sue Harang might be just

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<v Speaker 3>look at it over there in Tristan's lap. But the

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<v Speaker 3>very first one was this creepy caricature of this armless

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<v Speaker 3>skier I don't know why, with his manic red face.

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<v Speaker 3>His name was Shush after the term for the straight

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<v Speaker 3>downhill ski run. And then he popped up as this

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<v Speaker 3>unofficial mascot of the nineteen sixty eight Winter Games that

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<v Speaker 3>were in France. And even though his simple, big headed

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<v Speaker 3>design led to most fans calling him the skiing sperm,

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<v Speaker 3>Schus was a big hit with attendees and so he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of paved the way for the first official mascot

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<v Speaker 3>four years later, and that was that multicolored dot son

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<v Speaker 3>named Waldy who appeared at the Summer Olympics in Munich.

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<v Speaker 2>So Schuss is great, but if we're talking unnerving mascots,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with Schneeman.

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<v Speaker 1>Shush, and Schneman.

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<v Speaker 2>Schneeman was the first official mascot at the Winter Games,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was back in nineteen seventy six, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was basically just a snowman head on tiny legs wearing

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<v Speaker 2>this big, floppy red hat. It's almost like a kid

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<v Speaker 2>started building Schneman and then gave up after realizing there

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<v Speaker 2>was an Atarian cide where it was warmer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with you, schneaem It.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, obviously, today's show is all about the Winter Olympics,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're getting pretty excited around here for next month's games.

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<v Speaker 1>In Pyeongchang.

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<v Speaker 3>So we wanted to take the opportunity to dig into

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<v Speaker 3>some of that weird history and the surprising controversies that

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<v Speaker 3>surround these lesser known Olympics. So, Mega, where do you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like we should start?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I always like starting at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>you Which actually wasn't that long ago for the Winter Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first official Winter Games were held in France

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<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen twenty four, which was only twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>years after the first modern Summer Olympics in Athens. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Winter Olympics were known by a different name originally,

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<v Speaker 2>So the first event was actually called Winter Sports Week,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was this twelve day program consisting of six

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<v Speaker 2>sports and sixteen events.

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<v Speaker 3>That's such a weird name, like it sounds like something

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<v Speaker 3>you'd participate in in college or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So why did they call it this?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it like a test run for the winter version

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<v Speaker 3>of the Olympics or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly right. So, figure skating and ice hockey were

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<v Speaker 2>actually part of the Summer Games already at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>and the idea of giving cold weather sports their own

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<v Speaker 2>showcase was first floaded by the IOC in nineteen twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean it seems like the interest was there.

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<v Speaker 3>So why did this first event get such a like

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<v Speaker 3>a watered down name.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean some Scandinavian countries boked at the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of a separate event because they already took part in

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<v Speaker 2>their own competition called the Nordic Games and they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want an official winner Olympics to steal their thunder. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the committee made this Winter Sports Week. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Games were this huge success. There were ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>paying attendees who turned up to watch sixteen countries compete

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<v Speaker 2>in sports like speed skating and bob sled and curling,

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<v Speaker 2>and the events were such a smash hit that just

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<v Speaker 2>one year later, the IOC retroactively declared it the first

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic Winner Games.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so who were like, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Phelps of the first Winter Olympics. Were there any

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<v Speaker 3>standouts or were the athletes still trying to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>figure out what they were doing in the competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, you know, the Scandinevan countries, like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>had this leg up because they'd been holding their own

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<v Speaker 2>competitions for over twenty years at this point. So Norway

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<v Speaker 2>in particular, has always dominated the Winter Games, and the

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<v Speaker 2>first one was no exception. They had this incredible athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>thorleaf Haw, which is about as Nordica name as you

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<v Speaker 2>can have, i'd say, And he was this legendary skier

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<v Speaker 2>who won three gold medals in three different events that year,

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<v Speaker 2>and he also took home a bronze medal for the

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<v Speaker 2>ski jump competition. But this is super weird. Fifty years later,

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<v Speaker 2>it was discovered that a scoring mistake had actually happened

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<v Speaker 2>and the medal actually belonged to this US athlete named

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<v Speaker 2>Andrews Hoggen.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, fifty years later, I mean, I guess better late

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<v Speaker 3>than ever, but still that is a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So were there any other US victories that year?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, the very first gold medal awarded went to this

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<v Speaker 2>American speed skater named Charles Jutra, and he was this underdog,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the end he beat out all twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>other skaters by completing the five hundred meter event in

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<v Speaker 2>just forty four seconds. And my favorite underdog though, is

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<v Speaker 2>this Norwegian ice skater who's named Sonja Henny. And not

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<v Speaker 2>only was she only one of eleven female athletes competing

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<v Speaker 2>that year, she was also only eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven years old. Wow, so did she win?

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<v Speaker 2>No, she came in dead last time. But the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four Games were actually just the start of her career.

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<v Speaker 2>She won a gold medal at each of the next

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<v Speaker 2>three Winter Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, and she grew up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be this Norwegian movie star.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Norwegian just really do kind of own the

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<v Speaker 3>Winter Games, don't they.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was reading that Norway has actually won.

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<v Speaker 3>More gold medals in the competition than any other country

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<v Speaker 3>After Sochi. Their record stands I think it's one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eighteen gold medals and something like three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine total.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're actually one of only three countries the

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<v Speaker 2>other two being Austrian Liechtenstein, that have actually won more

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<v Speaker 2>medals in the Winter Olympics than in the Summer ones.

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<v Speaker 4>Hm.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it makes a lot of sense given their

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<v Speaker 3>geography and the climate. But you know, that cold weather

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<v Speaker 3>advantage is actually kind of at the root of one

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<v Speaker 3>of the Winter Olympics' biggest controversies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, put things in perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>There are ninety countries that are set to compete in

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<v Speaker 3>pyeong Chang this year, which is a far cry from

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<v Speaker 3>the more than two hundred countries that participated in the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen Games that were in Rio. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>reason for that disparity isn't so much a lack of

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<v Speaker 3>interest as it is a lack of resources.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, being able to compete.

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<v Speaker 3>In events like lusing and figure skating and Bob's letting.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, all of that requires this practice and these

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<v Speaker 3>very expensive facilities. And his Olympic historian David Waalachinsky puts it,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to run one hundred meters or even

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<v Speaker 3>a marathon, you can just step outside your door and

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<v Speaker 3>go do it. If you want to play soccer, you

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<v Speaker 3>can do that anywhere. But if you want to compete

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<v Speaker 3>in the luge, I don't think so. So obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>something like the alpine skiing is it's an expensive hobby

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<v Speaker 3>and if you're trying to compete, just think about all

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<v Speaker 3>the equipment and training and also just the regular access

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<v Speaker 3>to these facilities that you'd need to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, I know in tennis they say if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't play for two days, you lose some of your

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<v Speaker 2>muscle memory and you're basically relearning your strokes. Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>is crazy, right, But if you think about something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>For skiing, I mean, the climate dependent nature of the

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<v Speaker 2>events definitely hurts your chances if you're from a tropical place,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Winter Olympics have also developed this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>elitist stigma because the cold countries also tend to be

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<v Speaker 2>richer and whiter, which is probably one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>that they still aren't as popular as the summer counterparts.

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<v Speaker 2>Which isn't to say that more temperator even downright tropical

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<v Speaker 2>countries don't get a chance to shine. I mean, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>remembers cool runnings, right and the Jamaican bob sled team

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineteen eighty eight Calgary Games. But there's still

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<v Speaker 2>a long way to go if the Winter Olympics want

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<v Speaker 2>to be an event that's truly representative of international athletes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, And since we're talking about controversies and

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned the eighty eight Olympics, I just have to

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<v Speaker 3>take a second to talk about Eddie the Eagle.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure I know that mascot.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it sounds very cuddly, but Eddie the Eagle

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<v Speaker 3>is actually one of the nicknames for Michael Edwards, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was this British plaster who always dreamed of competing

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<v Speaker 3>as a downhill skier in the Olympics, and after determining

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<v Speaker 3>that ski jumping would be cheaper and less competitive in

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<v Speaker 3>order to be able to prepare, Michael became the first

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<v Speaker 3>in British history to participate in the event. Now, there

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<v Speaker 3>was only one little problem, and that was the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he was terrible at ski jumping. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 3>crashed at the World Championship in nineteen eighty six, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of became the laughing stock of the press and they

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<v Speaker 3>not so lovingly referred to him as mister Magoo. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Edwards was undeterred and he managed to fulfill

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<v Speaker 3>his dream by competing at the Calgary Olympics just two

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<v Speaker 3>years later. Although he successfully landed his Johnbie, he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>score even like half the total points as any of

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<v Speaker 3>the other competitors. But nonetheless, Eddie the Eagle, as he

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<v Speaker 3>was called by the President of the IOC, became this

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<v Speaker 3>national star and you know, an unexpected point of pride

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<v Speaker 3>for England.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm guessing where the story is going, right, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like that little Norwegian girl who rallied and came

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<v Speaker 2>back to clean house at the next Olympics.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, definitely not Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Edwards competed for a spot I think in the next

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<v Speaker 3>three Winter Games, but the Olympic community had raised the

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<v Speaker 3>qualifying standards at that point and that was really to

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<v Speaker 3>box him out.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Still he claims about seventy percent of his income now

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<v Speaker 3>comes from speaking engagement, so it wasn't a total loss.

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<v Speaker 1>For the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And as far as controversy is going, that one's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty innocent, Like most Olympic scandals are a little more

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<v Speaker 2>tinged with, definitely. And so I was reading about Orton Enderland.

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<v Speaker 2>She was this East German Lewes champion who wound up

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<v Speaker 2>forfeiting her gold from the sixty eight Games when it

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<v Speaker 2>was discovered that she and her teammates had actually heated

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<v Speaker 2>the rails that are sled just prior to the race.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I didn't realize the physics of this, but

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<v Speaker 2>the extra warmth had reduced the sled's friction with the ice,

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<v Speaker 2>which gave them a much faster run time. And so

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<v Speaker 2>the three women were disqualified, but the East German Olympic

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<v Speaker 2>committee never took responsibility. Instead, they blamed it all on

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<v Speaker 2>a capitalist revenge plot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that must have been a capitalist revenge plot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny because I know about like corking

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<v Speaker 3>your bed or deflating a football, but I honestly have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea how to cheat in winter sports. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't even occur to me to heat the metal

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<v Speaker 3>under your luge. That's also a sentence I never thought

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<v Speaker 3>I would say. But all right, well, speaking of East Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>there's one interesting thing I came across, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>that West and East Germany actually reached across the Iron

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<v Speaker 3>Curtain and they decided to compete together as this unified

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<v Speaker 3>team of Germany. This happened in three Olympics, fifty six

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty and sixty four. But that's when the truce

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<v Speaker 3>came to an end because this alternate for an East

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<v Speaker 3>German team, I think on the toboggan team. They used

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<v Speaker 3>the games as a way to make a break for freedom.

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<v Speaker 3>And so her name was outa Gawller, and apparently she

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<v Speaker 3>fled for West Germany while her teammates were celebrating during

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<v Speaker 3>a reception one night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she make it?

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<v Speaker 3>She actually did? And you know what, she actually wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>even the only one. According to the Associated Press, there

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<v Speaker 3>were thirteen fans from Eastern European communist countries that also

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<v Speaker 3>escaped under the cover of the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing and you kind of have to admire people

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<v Speaker 2>who saw an opportunity and seized it. So one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite Olympic controversies centers on this guy named Stephen Bradbury,

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<v Speaker 2>who depressed dubbed the accidental gold medalist. He was on

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian speed skating team that won the country its

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<v Speaker 2>first medal at the Winter Olympics back in nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 2>but his most triumphant moment came at the two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and two Games in Salt Lake City, and by that

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<v Speaker 2>point Bradbury had suffered a number of debilitating injuries and

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<v Speaker 2>was no longer at the top of his game. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he only made it through the quarterfinals that year because

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<v Speaker 2>another athlete was disqualified, and he made it through the

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<v Speaker 2>semis because a number of his competitors fell down on

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<v Speaker 2>the track. Oh wow, And that fall actually gave him

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<v Speaker 2>this great idea for what would turn out to be

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<v Speaker 2>a winning strategy when it came time for the big race.

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<v Speaker 2>Bradbury figured his best shot was just to hang back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on the off chance that another fall might

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<v Speaker 2>clear the field for him, and amazingly the plan worked

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<v Speaker 2>like in spades. As he was racing, there was this

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<v Speaker 2>disastrous fall that caused all four of his competitors to

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<v Speaker 2>collapse in him. Yeah, it was just before the finish line,

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<v Speaker 2>and Bradbury kind of just skated slowly around them, claiming

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<v Speaker 2>his coal metal.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The craziest part was like the crowd was booing and jeering.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I kind of love that story. It might

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<v Speaker 3>not be like a glorious win, but a win.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a win exactly. And Bradbury's sort of admitted that

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<v Speaker 2>he won by sheer luck, and he used to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of be upset about it and conflicted about it, but

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<v Speaker 2>now he kind of considers his reward for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this entire career hard work.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like we were saying earlier, the

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<v Speaker 3>Winter Olympics don't always favor these warmer weather countries, and

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<v Speaker 3>Australia certainly being one of those, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to take what you can get.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's actually one other long running controversy I

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<v Speaker 3>do want to mention, but before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 3>let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to.

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<v Speaker 3>Part time genius, and we're talking about the little known

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<v Speaker 3>origins and shocking scandals of the Winter Olympics, all right, Mega,

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<v Speaker 3>So the last controversy I wanted to mention is just

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<v Speaker 3>how long it took for a British curling team to

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<v Speaker 3>receive its gold medals.

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<v Speaker 2>And why is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Great Britain won the curling competition way back in

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<v Speaker 3>the inaugural Winter Games of nineteen twenty four, but the

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<v Speaker 3>winner actually didn't get their gold until a whopping eighty

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<v Speaker 3>two years later. So what was the hold of Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the delay stem from some confusion over weather curling had

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<v Speaker 3>been an official event at the first Games, or whether

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<v Speaker 3>it was what they called a demonstration sport. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>these are the events that are mostly there for promotional

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<v Speaker 3>purposes and kind of build interest in these niche sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, my friend Dave was a ski archer, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like tenth in the world and number one

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<v Speaker 2>in the US when we were in college. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big sport here, but it is in Europe, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was always hoping they'd make ski archery a sport

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<v Speaker 2>just so I could watch him in the Olympics. But

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<v Speaker 2>it never happened.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've met Dave before, and he never bragged

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<v Speaker 3>about this unel I would start every conversation with I

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<v Speaker 3>was number one in the world at.

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<v Speaker 1>The ski archery thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, it's weird to think about things that

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<v Speaker 3>have been these demonstration sports, like, you know, everything from

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<v Speaker 3>pigeon racing and ballooning to even volleyball and tennis. But

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<v Speaker 3>at some point those were outsider sports. And also there

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<v Speaker 3>was a sport called I think corfball. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what that is, but I'm a big fan just because

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<v Speaker 3>of a name. Anyway, some of the demonstration sports wind

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<v Speaker 3>up becoming official events, but until they do, they actually

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<v Speaker 3>don't give the winners of these the proper Olympic medals.

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<v Speaker 3>So even though curling was played at the first Winter Olympics,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't reappear in the Games until nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and its first appearance became accepted as you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>being a demonstration event.

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<v Speaker 2>So what changed over the course of those eighty some years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, for some reason, the IOC did this deep dive

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<v Speaker 3>into its records and they ruled that curling had actually

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<v Speaker 3>been intended as part of the official program back in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty four. So even though the original team members

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<v Speaker 3>were long gone by this point. They were given the

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<v Speaker 3>long overdue honor of being upgraded to these full Olympic

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<v Speaker 3>gold medals.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad you brought up demo sports because I

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<v Speaker 2>actually spent some time looking at old Winter Olympics And

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever heard of skigering?

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<v Speaker 1>No, is that like corfball.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly like corfball on skis. So this comes from

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen twenty eight Games. But basically competitors on skis

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<v Speaker 2>were pulled over jumps and other obstacles by riderless horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Why it was this one off event that never returned

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<v Speaker 2>to the Olympics, But it actually still has a following,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a World Skeetering Championship that's held in Whitefish, Montana,

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<v Speaker 2>every single year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I have to admit that sounds like a

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<v Speaker 3>sport that happened by accident where somebody like fell off

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<v Speaker 3>a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>It was still attached to it. But I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I did know that dogs made an appearance.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was in the nineteen thirty two Winter

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<v Speaker 3>Olympics that were like Placid, But this was just part

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<v Speaker 3>of a demonstration for this sled dog racing, and so

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<v Speaker 3>the sport re emerged at the fifty two Games in Oslo,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, surprisingly it never quite made it to

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<v Speaker 3>official event status.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of crazy because sled dog racing seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a natural fit. Yeah, I mean, I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>always have the Iditarod, but sadly for like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other sports that they don't have, like their own championships.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's one called ski Ballet or across Sky, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was pretty much what the name suggests. So competitors

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<v Speaker 2>take to a smooth slope and they performed these highly

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<v Speaker 2>choreographed ski maneuvers and it's all set to music.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, which sounds awesome, right, yeah it does.

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<v Speaker 2>It cropped off at two Winter Olympics. It was shown

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<v Speaker 2>in Calgary in eighty eight and then again in France

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety two, but it never really found an audi

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, the International Ski Federation for some reason

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<v Speaker 2>stopped holding formal competition for the sport in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of when the dream of ski bala died.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's kind of weird, but I'd probably watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I think i'd be really good at it,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Well, one of the weirdest official sports of

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<v Speaker 3>the Winter Games was called the Winner Pentathlon. So in

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<v Speaker 3>addition to cross country skiing and shooting, the event also

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<v Speaker 3>featured get this, skiing, horseback riding, and of course fencing.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, how did this not catch on? Skis, horses, guns, swords,

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<v Speaker 2>something for everyone?

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<v Speaker 3>You're not kidding, I mean, I feel like everybody can

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<v Speaker 3>find something awesome in this. But I suppose it was

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<v Speaker 3>deemed a little too complicated for the Olympics. But it

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<v Speaker 3>actually is still held every year as part of the

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<v Speaker 3>Military World Games.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's an event that, despite fan outcry, was also

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<v Speaker 2>deemed too complicated for the Winter Olympics. Chicken sled racing.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that can't be a real thing, No way.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's only sort of a thing. So a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago, KFC and this ad agency hired two

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<v Speaker 2>members of the Team USA Bob Sled Team to help

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<v Speaker 2>promote their new chicken strips. And the breakman for the

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<v Speaker 2>team is this guy. Jim Carril was filmed eating chicken

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<v Speaker 2>from the KFC Go Cup while racing down the track

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<v Speaker 2>at seventy miles per hour with a force of five

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<v Speaker 2>Gee's so friendly. This is some sort of feet. According

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<v Speaker 2>to carryl, no other bobsled team out there is pulling

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<v Speaker 2>five g's while eating chicken, and he's right and more

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<v Speaker 2>casual fans of chicken sled racing may not know the

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<v Speaker 2>physical demands five g's puts on an athlete. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>know how much an extra crispy strip weighs at five

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<v Speaker 2>g's It's almost a half pound. Seriously, don't try this

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<v Speaker 2>at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how serious he is with that. That's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I am guessing the sport never made it

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<v Speaker 3>to the demo phase though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I mean, the company started this social media

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<v Speaker 2>campaign that include this petition to make it an official

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<v Speaker 2>event at the twenty eighteen Games, but as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it won't be debuting there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably for the best.

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<v Speaker 3>But all right, well, speaking of Bob's ledding, did you

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<v Speaker 3>ever hear how the sport got it start? Actually kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a three for here, because there were two other

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<v Speaker 3>winter sports that involved the icy track. You've got the

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<v Speaker 3>luge the skeleton, and those can also be traced back

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<v Speaker 3>to the same source.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, I know what loses it's when there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a single person on a sled face up and

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<v Speaker 2>feet first. But remind me what's skeleton again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty much the reverse, like you sled face down

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<v Speaker 3>and face first, which is just awful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrifying. It just makes me like nervous thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know me too, But the story is pretty strange

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<v Speaker 3>as well. So apparently lose skeleton and bob sledding. All

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<v Speaker 3>owe this huge debt to a Swiss hotel owner. His

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<v Speaker 3>name was Casper Badrutt, and in the eighteen sixties Casper

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<v Speaker 3>hit upon the idea of a winter resort and this

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a way to fill empty rooms during

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 3>the freezing winter months in Saint Marins. So he convinced

0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:49.480
<v Speaker 3>English tours that there was plenty of fun to be

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<v Speaker 3>had by speeding through the town's streets on kind of

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.239
<v Speaker 3>a modified sled that that happened to be popular at

0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:58.359
<v Speaker 3>the time among local delivery boys. It was only one

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.640
<v Speaker 3>problem to this, and that's an i'mateure. Sledgers were routinely

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 3>smacking into unsuspecting pedestrians. They were just trying to walk

0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.560
<v Speaker 3>down the street, and I guess in some ways that

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 3>wasn't great for business. So Casper came up with a solution,

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and that was to construct this icy halfpipe, and so

0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.320
<v Speaker 3>people could, you know, no longer have to recavoc in

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<v Speaker 3>the streets, and they started experimenting with new configurations. They might,

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, strap two sleds together to make somewhat of

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<v Speaker 3>a bob sled, And within a decade this recreational sledding

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<v Speaker 3>had morphed into a few distinct competitive sports, and by

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<v Speaker 3>the time the Winter Olympics rolled around in nineteen twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>bob sled or bob slag as they used to call it,

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of a natural inclusion on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of funny because it's actually a similar thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened with the snowboard. So the basic idea of

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 2>snowboards first cropped up in the eighteen hundreds, but they

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't become a commercial product. And I didn't realize this

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<v Speaker 2>but until the nineteen sixties. And that's when a Michigan

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<v Speaker 2>man named Sherman Poppin strapped two skis together to make

0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.960
<v Speaker 2>a new kind of ride for his daughter. And you'll

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<v Speaker 2>love this. He dubbed the invention the snurfer snurfer and

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<v Speaker 2>he sold over a million of them in the next decade,

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<v Speaker 2>and then athletes made their own adjustments and improvements, just

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>like with the bob sled, and then the sport became

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<v Speaker 2>a full blown craze in the eighties and nineties. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do wish we could keep calling it snurfing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's try to bring that back if we can.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's wild to think about how recent a

0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 3>breakthrough something as familiar as snowboarding really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of the same with figure skating too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>ice skating has been around for hundreds of years, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the expressive acrobatic version that we think of

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<v Speaker 3>with figure skaters, that didn't come around until the mid

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<v Speaker 3>nineteenth century. And believe it or not, it was an

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<v Speaker 3>American who actually popularized it. The guy's name was Jackson Haynes,

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.119
<v Speaker 3>and he was looking for a way to combine his

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<v Speaker 3>ballet dance training with ice skating at a time when

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 3>most of the skaters were focusing on just doing these

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.320
<v Speaker 3>complex patterns and the ice and so moving gracefully to

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 3>music and all the spinning and jumping. That was something

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 3>that no ice skater was doing at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>it all seemed too theatrical, I guess for some people,

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<v Speaker 3>so this restricted view frustrated Haynes, and so he left

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<v Speaker 3>for Europe and this international style, as they started to

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.920
<v Speaker 3>describe it, it began to thrill these audiences in London

0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and Paris and other places that they were taking it.

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 3>And so we chriss crossed the European continent as this

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 3>skating celebrity for over a decade. And so today people

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 3>remember him as the father of figure skating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that anyway. I know there are plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of other innovations connected to the Winter Olympics like we

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<v Speaker 2>should probably talk about, but first let's take a little break.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dave Bergart is a dear friend of mine. This

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>is how far we go back. So I was on

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<v Speaker 2>a study abroad trip to Tibet, and I knew no

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>one on the program. And as I was walking onto

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 2>this bus as a total dork. I mean, I think

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 2>I had a sketch pad in one hand and a

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>ukulelea in my other, and I had this ridiculous little

0:23:56.200 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 2>suitcase while everyone had these awesome hiking backpacks. And by Dave,

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 2>and he was on this bus just playing with a

0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Rubik's cube and he was wearing a Coffeels T shirt

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>which was a little band from Delaware, and I thought,

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>another cool dork. I found my people. But then later

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Dave was so humble about this, and I was shocked

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<v Speaker 2>to learn he was number one in the country and

0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 2>ski archery and and the fact that he was a

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>real athlete just blew me away. But that's what I

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk about today. So Dave Brogart, welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the program.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, thanks mangusch And we can debate real athlete with

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:30.720
<v Speaker 5>ski archery.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm always interested in these like fringe sports, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so curious, like how did you even learn about

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<v Speaker 2>ski archery and how did you get into it?

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a good question. So you know, obviously I

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 5>grew up as a competitive archer. I was just like

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 5>I think I was one of those kids. I just

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<v Speaker 5>went to summer camp and you know, picked up archery

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 5>and you know, just fell in love with it. And

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:59.640
<v Speaker 5>it just happened like the camp counselor like lived down

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 5>the street for me, and he shot archery year round,

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 5>and so he invited me to, you know, start shooting

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 5>with him, and so like in I don't know, elementary school,

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 5>middle school, like I was kind of going around the

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 5>East Coast doing all these archery tournaments, and then like

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 5>I hit high school and like, archery is fun. I

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 5>learned a lot from it, but it was like a

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 5>little bit too mellow, and all my friends are doing

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 5>Nordic skiing and so I just picked it up and

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 5>then like learned about it and I'm like, wait, I

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:31.679
<v Speaker 5>can combine these two things and this really obscure sport,

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 5>Like that sounds awesome and it's like the.

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<v Speaker 2>Most amazing ben diagram of things I'd never.

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Put together totally.

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 5>And so yeah, I just started racing in the the

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 5>archery archery Bathlon and like I just was at the

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 5>right time, like it was starting to get bigger internationally

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 5>and had some opportunities to start traveling and racing, and yeah,

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 5>I did that from like nineteen ninety eight to like

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 5>two thousand and seven ish or so, and I raced

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 5>all over Europe in Russia, and yeah, it was a

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 5>good experience.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. So when you started, how many people were

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<v Speaker 2>you competing against in the US?

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<v Speaker 4>Like pretty small?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, Nordic skiing is a pretty small

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 5>niche and then like if you add like biathlon, which

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 5>is the sort of the cousin sport, which just uses

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, rightful instead of a bow and arrow that's

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 5>even smaller and then if you like take, it's like

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 5>even a smaller piece of that.

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And chess boxing, which you know is that where they're

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>like rounds of chess and followed by boxing, Like it

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 2>has to be an okay chess player, but it helps

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to be a really great boxer like Mike Dyson would

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>destroy Gary Kasparov. But do you have to be a

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 2>better skier archer and ski archery?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a good question. I would probably say skier.

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 5>You have to be good at both for sure, but

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 5>fast gears tended to do better I think than just

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 5>straight archers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so I know when you traveled abroad to competitions,

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 2>families would put you up. Could you tell us about

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 2>your Russian host family and how they welcomed you and

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>your computing there?

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<v Speaker 5>Man, Yeah, this cracks me up because you know, there's

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 5>this one race I did in like a Siberian outpost

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 5>and there's like no hotel. So yeah, I was put

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.199
<v Speaker 5>up by host family, and uh, you know, I was

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 5>like in shape and like kind of living a monk lifestyle,

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 5>like eating pretty healthy and they were so tickled to

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 5>have like an American in their house. They wanted to

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 5>give me like the best hospitality possible, and they, like

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 5>the night before the race, like insisted that I just

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 5>take like vodka shot after vodka shot, and like then

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 5>they're like heated up there like wood fired sauna, and

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 5>like you know, like would accept like no.

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 4>For an answer.

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 5>So I went out there and like kind of craziness

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 5>just ensued with like a local policeman coming and all

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 5>of a sudden, we were firing his gun at like

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 5>pepsi cans in the backyard. I was not in tip

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 5>top race shape the next day, but I didn't know

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 5>if that was a yeah, part of like my competitors'

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 5>plan or what. But you know, years later, like I

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 5>don't think it mattered how we did in the race.

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 5>It was a pretty fun story and cool cultural experience

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, I feel really lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty awesome. So we want to put you to

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>a quiz because we always put our favorite guests to

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>a quiz. So this is called real discontinued Olympic event

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 2>or something we made up. I love it, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>the first one is tug of War. Is this a

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<v Speaker 2>real discontinued event or something we made up.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:37.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I I'm gonna go real event. I bet, I

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 5>bet in the old like you know. Really, I could

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 5>see this in early nineteen hundred, so I can see

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 5>I can see Tug of war.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely right. They had eight men team and England

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 2>was particularly good at it. And it was from nineteen

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 2>hundred to nineteen twenty. All right, one for one solo

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>synchronized swimming.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to go made up.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we so I thought it was

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:07.479
<v Speaker 2>it was fake too, but it's a real event. This

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>is from nineteen eighty four to nineteen ninety two, and

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>despite the name, apparently the synchronized is actually with the

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>music and not with other people.

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Oh that is so good.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that crazy?

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 5>We missed ot calling that gosh.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>H tandem horse dancing.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh god, I want to say false, but after that

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 6>last one threw me for a loop tandem horse dancing,

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 6>it's I have to say false.

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's false, but I want it to be a

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>real event. For two men's snowman construction.

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Two men, I'm gonna go false. I hope this is false.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's also false and number five swimming obstacle.

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<v Speaker 4>Course, well, we've only had one true one so far.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that two hm true?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. So according to the Guardian, the discipline

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>required swimmers to clamber over a pole hovering just above

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the surface of the water, scramble over a row of

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>parked boats, and then swim under another row of little ships.

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>And apparently people who grew up in harbors would tend

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>to win this competition.

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing.

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Dave one astounding four for five, which entitles

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>him to our top prize. A hand written note to

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 2>his wife or boss, singing his praises Dave Virgart, thanks

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>for being on Part Time Genius.

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 4>That's awesome, Thanks so much.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Part Time Genius. So one thing I

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 2>noticed while prepping for this episode is just how many

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 2>breakthrough innovations happened to coincide with the nineteen sixty Winter Olympics.

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's not an exaggeration to say that the Games

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>would never be the same again after that year.

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's a big statement, right, So what kind of

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>stuff were you thinking about?

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, for starters, nineteen sixty was the year of the Zamboni.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>The Zamboni So like the thing on the hockey rinks

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and stuff.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Frank Zamboni invented in nineteen forty nine and

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>he used it at his family owned rink, and then

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>it started to catch on with the public in the fifties,

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>especially after Sonya Henny bought one to take along on

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>her travels. And you remember Sonia Henny as the Norwegian

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>young kid.

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I do remember her. And it was his name, really,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Frank Zamboni. That's awesome, Yeah, it was.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.959
<v Speaker 2>And when it came time for the nineteen sixty Games,

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Zamboni's were finally ready to make their Olympic debut, so

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>they used Frank's padded method. The machine actually shaves the

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 2>surface of the ice and then sweeps away the shavings

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and then it washes the ice though it's nice and

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>slick for skaters, and all these years later, Zamboni's are

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>still the gold standard.

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an interesting fact.

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm still not one hundred percent convinced you didn't sneak

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 3>that in just so you can say Zamboni. But anyway,

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 3>what else was big for the nineteen sixty Games.

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, Zamboni's and Bonie's Ambonie well, the biggest game changer

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that year was that the Olympics were televised for the

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>first time. And it's kind of hard to imagine today

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>when you can watch round the clock live coverage of

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>every single event, But until the nineteen sixties and the

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty Games in particular, the only people who could

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>watch the Olympics were those who attended them. And that

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>changed when CBS paid this tiny, paltry sum of fifty

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars for exclusive broadcasting. Oh wow, yeah, I mean,

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>it's so little money, right, but it totally paid off

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>for the network and they saw record setting ratings that year,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>but the athletes and organizers actually benefited from it as.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, So all right, so how's that?

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, there was some confusion during the men's

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>slalom skiing event that year, and officials were unsure whether

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 2>one of the skiers had actually missed a gate during

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 2>his run. But thanks to this new deal with the

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>TV network, the officials actually had this chance to resolve

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the matter, and they asked members of the CBS team

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 2>if they could review the tape to confirm what had happened.

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.959
<v Speaker 2>CBS obliged, and in doing so, they actually came up

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 2>with something that became indispensable in all sports, the instant replay.

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So that all started from the Winter Olympics.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's pretty cool. I guess you're accurate. So nineteen

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 3>sixty was a pretty big year for the Winter Games.

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>But you know, actually one of my favorite innovations didn't

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>come along until almost thirty years later. It was in

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>the eighty eight Games in Calgary, and that was the

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 3>year when the National Research Council of Canada devised a

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 3>special all weather Olympic torch. This was to be used

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>in the traditional relay before the Games, and unlike previous torches,

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 3>this one was designed to be especially lightweight and it

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 3>was powered by this special fuel that allowed the flame

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 3>to stay lit during its eighty eight day, eleven thousand

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 3>mile trip across the Canadian tundra.

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing across the tundra. And actually it reminds me

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>of something I read about this year's Olympic Torch relay,

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>which is going on right now. But apparently in December

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>there was one leg where the torch was carried by

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 2>the South Korean robot named Hubo.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Wait is that allowed I think it all had to

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>be people.

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>No, it can apparently, And the best part was that

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Hubo used a power drill to cut a hole in

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>a wall and then he passed the torch over to

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>the inventor who created him.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 3>That is a little bit ridiculous, but I mean also

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 3>a good reminder that the Olympics can be, you know,

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>pretty entertaining.

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, especially when you add robots to the mix, which

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>is something South Korea is going all in on this year.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I was reading about how their Ministry

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 3>of Science is working with these local companies and so

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 3>they're rolling out new technologies all through the games. Like

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>apparently they've been testing these multilingual and autonomous robots at

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>the airports so they can guide visitors to correct gates

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 3>or provide information about flight times, and then when they

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.439
<v Speaker 3>aren't busy with guests, they just roam around and clean

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>things up.

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And so the hope is that the bots can be

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 3>put to work in pyeong Chang as a way to

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 3>get visitors around this language barrier there.

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty neat And from everything I read, this year's

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 2>games are going to be like this true Techi paradise.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 2>So aside from the full on robots. Hyundai has these

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 2>self driving buses that risk visitors around the host city,

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and they've got a fleet of aerial drones they'll be

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.839
<v Speaker 2>watching over the proceedings. And that's not just to help

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 2>broadcast events, but also for security purposes and maybe also

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>part of the entertainment offerings.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, we'll find out.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 2>But the thing that'll catch most nerds attention is that

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 2>the Winter Olympics will be the test site for the

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>new five G mobile network, and so most of us

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>won't be able to connect to this new platform until

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, but for those in attendance, the network will

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>actually provide data speeds up to a thousand times faster

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>than the current networks.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's fast enough to download almost a gig

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.240
<v Speaker 2>of data in a single second.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty well all right.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, we've talked about some of these very you know,

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>tech heavy innovations that we should be seen, but there

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 3>are also some non tech based first that we should

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 3>look forward to as well. There was one of I

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 3>was reading about, you know. For example, Adam Rippon will

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 3>compete in figure skating as the first openly gay male

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 3>athlete to represent the US and the Winter Olympics, which

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>is kind of hard to believe that it's not until

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 3>this year that that's happening. But you know, all the

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 3>next activity aimed at homosexual athletes during the twenty fourteen Games,

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 3>and so Chi Adam's performance hopefully will be an uplifting

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 3>moment for many people at this year's event.

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and one of the first I'm most looking forward

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>to this year is Nigeria's debut at the Winter Olympics.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Huh.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>The African nation will become the latest warm weather country

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to buck the cold climate trend and that's all thanks

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 2>to its women's bobsled team.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, So it's kind of like cool Runnings all

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>over again.

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, And just like with the famous Jamaican bob

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 2>sled team, Nigeria's team is a total labor of love.

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 2>So they actually crowdsourced the seventy five thousand dollars they

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 2>needed on GoFundMe for like sleds and equipment and fees.

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And according to the sled driver, her name is Seon

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Attigan and anyway, this is her quote. I was inspired

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to start the Nigerian women's bobsled team in hopes of

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 2>being the first ever African representative men or women to

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>qualify for the Winter Olympic Games in the sport of

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>bob sled.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, mission accomplished on that one. That's pretty neat and

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to see how they do. You know,

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 3>this year more than others, I'm really.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Looking forward to the Games.

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 3>You know, things feel pretty divided these days, so it

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 3>does seem extra important to have this event where people

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 3>from all different regions and all different cultures they can

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 3>come together and you kind of celebrate what humanity is

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.800
<v Speaker 3>capable of, and to do so in this friendly spirit

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>of competition that the Olympics.

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Is really all about.

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I know, and in South Korea, Yeah, no kidding, but

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.359
<v Speaker 2>will I know the opening ceremonies are still a few

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 2>weeks away, but would you say we kick things off

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>early with the men's freestyle fact off event?

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>You know what, Mango, I say, let the Games begin.

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 3>So did you know that only one person has won

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 3>gold at both the Winter and Summer Olympics, and that

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 3>honor goes to American Eddie Egan. He won the light

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 3>heavyweight boxing event in the nineteen twenty Olympics, and over

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 3>a decade later he was part of the four man

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Bob's led team that took gold at Lake Placid. There

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 3>are three other athletes that have won in winter and summer,

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 3>but Egan is the only one to take gold at both.

0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 2>So I know, we were just talking about the Jamaican

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>bobsled team that got so much attention for the Calgary

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Olympics and cooled runnings, and you know, the team was

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of a punchline for a while, but they eventually

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 2>won their fans over because of their hard work and determination.

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>But what I didn't remember, and what most people probably

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 2>don't remember, is that the team still competes and they've

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 2>actually gotten much better. In fact, only six years after

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.959
<v Speaker 2>those nineteen eighty eight games, the Jamaican team actually beat

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:30.439
<v Speaker 2>both US teams in the event.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:30.919
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that either, all right, So, which country

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 3>is most dominant in a single sport? I was looking

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 3>ato this and you may remember that four years ago

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 3>in Sochy, the long track speed skaters from the Netherlands

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 3>took home something like seventy percent of the medals in

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 3>that sport.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just completely dominant, right.

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 3>But the Atlantic was looking back at metals over the

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 3>past eleven Olympics and they found that the most dominant

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 3>country in a single sport, those would be Germany's losures,

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 3>and they took home something like thirty seven percent of

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 3>medals over that period of time. Now, I should note

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 3>this would include East and West Germany as well as

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 3>the unified Germany, so they did get to have more

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 3>competitors over that period of time.

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 1>But that's still pretty remarkable.

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing. So the only winter sport where an

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 2>American athlete has never meddled is the biathlon. But you know,

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling that they're gonna pull it off

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 2>this year. Yeah, But I mean, the truth is, I'm

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 2>saying that, like I know anyone who competes it.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't even know exactly who does that, but

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 3>I hope that we win one there. So all right, Well,

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 3>earlier we mentioned Norway being a powerhouse in the Winter Olympics,

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 3>and it's even more impressive if you look at their

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>performance per capita. But approximately five million citizens, they're roughly

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 3>the same size as my home state of Alabama, and

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 3>they've won approximately one Winter Olympic medal for every seventeen

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 3>thousand residents. Now, I don't know if that sounds like

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 3>much or not. But compare that to the US, where

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it's one for every one point two million.

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>So I like the fact, but I can actually top it.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's because everyone forgets about Liechtenstein.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about lickeden Stein.

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So they've won a total of nine medals all in

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>alpine skiing, and that's actually close to one for every

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 2>forty two hundred people there.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 3>That is pretty crazy that one out of every forty

0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 3>two hundred people that.

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Live there has won a medal.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>That is, it's on all the recruiting materials.

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, Mango, I have to admit it.

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 2>You have won it.

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>You win this week's fact Off Trophy.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much.

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you guys for listening. That's it for today.

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0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.000
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