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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's the almost famous podcast. We are here and we

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Speaker 2: are back. It's no longer the off season. On the

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Speaker 2: almost famous podcast, we're breaking down episode one of Grand

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Speaker 2: Season of The Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: Ashley, Ben, I like the cast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of girls. Who's who I remember?

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like this is a good cast

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Speaker 2: of like, uh, some drama, some villainous behavior, some beauty,

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Speaker 2: some great you know, like you've got it all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he really likes him too. I don't think he's

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Speaker 4: going to have a probable liking any And well, guess what.

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Speaker 4: At the end, we see that his ultimate problem, the drama,

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Speaker 4: his teas, the big Tea's is going to be that

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Speaker 4: he can't pick in the end.

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Speaker 3: Shocker, never seen it before.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, everybody has a hard time, right, everybody

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Speaker 4: said that you didn't know, but everybody figures it out

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Speaker 4: before that hour, the actual end hour.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's start there, Ashley and have this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Okay before we dive into the breakdown of the episode,

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Speaker 2: which is episode one. So it's going to take us

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Speaker 2: just a few minutes to talk about a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that we don't know their names of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, guys, I'm going to generalize. It could

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Speaker 4: be like that girl from there, that girl with that

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Speaker 4: color hair.

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Speaker 3: We do it every year. But let's start with the teaser.

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Speaker 2: It does seem like, unlike any season we've seen before,

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Speaker 2: that he is confused up until literally the very end.

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Speaker 2: Does that, Ashley, in your mind, take away from this

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Speaker 2: experience or does it add an intrigue for you where

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Speaker 2: you're like, I want to see who he chooses and

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Speaker 2: I want to see this love story come out.

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Speaker 4: It definitely adds intrigue, okay, and it definitely makes me

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Speaker 4: feel like he shouldn't pick anyone, and either that neither

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Speaker 4: of them are his girl, very much like Bradwallmac because

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Speaker 4: if you're that torn between two people, maybe it's neither.

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Speaker 4: So you either go the Bradwallmack way where you don't

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Speaker 4: pick anyone, or you say, like we have to date

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Speaker 4: in real life, we can't get engaged, Like that's not

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Speaker 4: the proper place to get engaged.

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Speaker 2: So I want to go with this conversation next because

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Speaker 2: I was watching this teaser and I was like, what

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Speaker 2: would you do? Like, what is the right thing to do?

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Speaker 2: Or what is the healthy thing to do. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's walking away, because he's not sitting there going

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Speaker 2: I just don't like anybody he's going. I am so

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Speaker 2: in love with two people that I can't make this decision.

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Speaker 2: So do you tell them both, hey, let's start, let's

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Speaker 2: keep doing this weird love triangle.

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Speaker 4: You know that that's the ending that has never happened

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Speaker 4: that I want to happen. And every year I try

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Speaker 4: to call that that's what's going to happen, and it hasn't.

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Speaker 5: It should this time.

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Speaker 3: There's no way that's healthy.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's no way that both women go, yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: just keep dating all three of us totally.

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Speaker 4: But if you were to put it in the real

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Speaker 4: world perspective, isn't it okay to date to people at

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Speaker 4: the same time as long as you don't say that

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Speaker 4: you're committed and you're just dating, Like say, he just

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Speaker 4: goes on a couple of real world dates with these

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Speaker 4: two girls. I bet you he figures it out faster

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Speaker 4: than he would in the bachelor environment.

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Speaker 2: That's probably true. No, I don't think it's wrong to

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Speaker 2: date and to be dating. I think at this point, though,

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Speaker 2: that these women are showing up thinking that they potentially

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Speaker 2: could be proposed to.

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Speaker 4: Well, this shouldn't be proposed to.

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Speaker 2: And then he's gonna say, let's actually backtrack this to

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Speaker 2: all keep dating and figure this out outside of this world.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that flies with anybody, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know what kind of message that sends to the

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Speaker 4: Wait, we should have asked Brad this. We should have

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Speaker 4: been like, was it ever an option for you to

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Speaker 3: Dud?

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Speaker 2: I think just reading through the messaging when we talked

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Speaker 2: to Brad, great interview, go back listen to it if

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Speaker 2: you haven't yet a lot of context to this whole

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Speaker 2: experience that he gives us. I'm assuming Brad didn't like

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Speaker 2: them enough to propose to them, and that's why he

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Speaker 2: are telling him you've got to go, man, and Jesse's like,

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Speaker 2: I need to know who to send here first. It

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Speaker 2: seems like Grant is more in the camp of I

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Speaker 2: can't make this decision, which I have no Let me

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Speaker 2: be clear, I have no judgment for I get it,

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Speaker 2: I understand it. I've been in it, and those emotions

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Speaker 2: at the end are confusing. It's chaotic, and especially if

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Speaker 2: something hasn't happened that's really made one stand out above

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling for Grant here, and I think as viewers

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Speaker 2: maybe the better perspective to say, I get how this

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Speaker 2: but outside of all that, he needs to make a decision,

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Speaker 2: even one that could be tough on him, meaning he

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Speaker 2: walks away because he's like, I'm conflicted and I'll call

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if we figure this.

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Speaker 4: Out, well, can we take a let's take a minute

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Speaker 4: to talk about Grant. We don't really know him at

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Speaker 4: all from Gen season. I thought of it going into

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Speaker 4: I didn't know him, like he was plucked out of obscurity,

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Speaker 4: because do you really remember anything of subsidet very very

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Speaker 4: similar with Clinton. Yeah, we've done this very often in

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Speaker 4: the past few years. Yeah, So I went in blind

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Speaker 4: and I really liked him. What they did in the

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Speaker 4: talking to his dad, who he seems to not see

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Speaker 4: often because he once he's been in the midst of

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Speaker 4: But he just talks about his childhood as like, even

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Speaker 4: though his parents were together up until college, he still

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Speaker 4: you know, the substance abuse. He didn't have like really

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Speaker 4: is like a safe spot, a comfortable place to come

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Speaker 2: One of the things that Grant brought up and when

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Speaker 2: So it was reconnecting with his dad for the first

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Speaker 2: I think we see it on this episode. I do

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Speaker 2: feel like we got to know Grant and I'm rooting

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Speaker 2: for him. Now. I've never wanted to see a lead fail. However,

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Speaker 2: I have gone into seasons being very apathetic about their

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Speaker 2: and why am I rooting for them? I'm rooting for Grant.

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Speaker 2: I want to see this work for Grant. The family

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Speaker 2: dynamic that he has is beautiful. Obviously, we see his

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Speaker 2: and she's carrying. She's a great big sister to Grant.

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Speaker 2: We see his grandma and his mom dad. So the

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Speaker 2: show did what it needed to do. Now, I didn't

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Speaker 2: give us like a long version of his story, but

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Speaker 2: we know enough now to say, hey, this isn't just

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Speaker 2: for him, and so I want to root for him.

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Speaker 3: At least that was my experience.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: And do you know what really got me The line

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Speaker 4: that he said where they didn't even have dinner together

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Speaker 4: that maybe be like, Okay, that is really sad, and

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Speaker 4: that is something that I want to prioritize with our family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the things I look back on

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Speaker 2: my childhood and I think for any parents out there,

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things I look back now

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Speaker 2: and think that's so special is that I had dinner

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Speaker 2: be with each other for forty minutes. It's all we're

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Speaker 2: asking and I really appreciate it. I might not loved

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of the most important things if you

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Speaker 4: talk to a psychiatrists about the way that kids end up,

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Speaker 4: especially in those formative teen years, where yeah, so easy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's dive in then to the breakdown of the

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Speaker 2: first episode of The Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: We have the limit entrances. They are cute.

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Speaker 2: I'd say, there without the glitz and the flare of

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Speaker 2: of just really nice introductions. We got to see them

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Speaker 2: possible is I don't remember a season since mine where

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Speaker 2: there was so many just like drop dead beautiful people walking.

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Speaker 3: Out of a limo.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, these girls are.

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Speaker 2: I felt like every single person that stepped out of Lemo,

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Speaker 2: I was like, goodness, how's he going to do this?

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Speaker 3: Like, how's it going to do Night one? Now?

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Speaker 2: The rest of the time, you know, physical attraction is

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Speaker 2: less of an important decision maker, but on Night one,

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Speaker 2: that's really what you're going after. Yes, and he has

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Speaker 2: a beautiful cast of big personalities and I and I'm

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Speaker 2: really as I said, I love the cast. I'm really

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Speaker 2: excited to watch them kind of mold into you know,

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Speaker 4: With When you think about Night one, who are the

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Speaker 2: Do when I think at Night one, Ashley, it's a

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Speaker 2: good question, alex One right, first impression Rows She stood

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Speaker 2: out to us when we did the breakdown of the

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Speaker 2: cast without knowing anybody, Alicia, because I love that they

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Speaker 2: just get done making out on a couch and she goes,

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Speaker 2: I don't usually kiss on the first date. And jess

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Speaker 2: Jessica is in the background watching, and she goes, this

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Speaker 2: is even the first date, girl, Like you just sat

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Speaker 2: the yeah, totally different world here. I also stands out

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Speaker 2: to me, Ashley. My third is Bailey. Oh and there's

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Speaker 2: a reason why.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll tell you. Okay, so we match on alex

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Speaker 4: and Alesia. Those were two of my three, and my

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get married, Like look at this picture of

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Speaker 4: They're making them seem so immature doing that, like I'm

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Speaker 4: I know. I thought it would be so unattractive for him,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And inside of me, Ashley is excited to see

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Speaker 2: We think of Carin right there, that name comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: I just think her look is I think the look.

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Speaker 3: But that is like the look of power. It is.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting to me, Ashley, that we know so many

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Speaker 5: There's somebody else.

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Speaker 4: There's two other people that I could name who Lydia, Litti,

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Speaker 5: She's quite striking that dress.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's fine, it's great, Okay, Ashley.

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Speaker 2: As we have gone now three of the people that

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Speaker 2: Your top four were Zoe.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think she's going to be top four anymore.

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Speaker 3: Will be top four, Carolina, Carolina will be top four Nisi.

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Speaker 4: Nie, I don't think so anymore. No, she's a pediatrician

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Speaker 3: And then you thought Rose was going to be the troublemaker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my top four I'm still confident in if we

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Speaker 5: Choyce, Why does she have the most familiar face ever?

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Speaker 5: Who does she look like?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but she's very I mean she's great.

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Speaker 2: She like rocked it. She was like cute and funny

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Speaker 3: I'm scared. I'm scared to say otherwise.

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Speaker 5: They did not get her a lot of airtime.

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Speaker 3: No, because she's going to be a fan favorite.

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Speaker 5: You're making things up, Okay.

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Speaker 3: And Zoe. I did have Zoe as well.

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Speaker 2: It's yet to be seen with Zoe, as you said,

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Speaker 3: But I don't know how I feel.

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Speaker 2: I think Carolina would probably have snuck up there now

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Speaker 5: More on screen.

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Speaker 4: And then Dina she could be She's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: When the girls on Night one start talking about how

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Speaker 4: there is somebody in the house that is creating lies.

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Speaker 2: I think there's somebody creating lies. I think this house

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Speaker 2: I actually I am under the impression right now.

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Speaker 4: You really think these girls are drama? Drama, drama. I'm

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Speaker 4: not so sure.

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Speaker 3: Do you.

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Speaker 5: I think that you know things?

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Speaker 3: I know nothing. Okay, I know nothing about the house.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he knows something about another element of the season. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you know nothing about the girls.

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Speaker 3: And I feel I just have a feeling. I have

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Speaker 3: a feeling.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's the part of the preview that we didn't

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Speaker 4: talk about that I thought stood out was Carolina going

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Speaker 4: up the staircase going I'm evil, evil evil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels a little tongue in cheek to me.

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Speaker 2: It feels a little bit like, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and her, well, I think she's just gonna

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Speaker 4: be very threatening to the women, Suhanna says, I do see.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a girl thing. I can see her

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Speaker 4: like maybe being a little bit conceited.

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Speaker 2: See, I don't see it yet. I love this, Ashulely.

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Speaker 2: I love that we're both on so different pages. Do

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Speaker 2: you think the house is going to get along? I

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Speaker 2: think the house is going to combust. You think Carolina

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Speaker 2: is actually going to cause trouble. I don't think she

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Speaker 2: is much at all. I really like this dynamic going

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Speaker 2: into a season. Usually you and I have these first

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Speaker 2: episodes and we're both in such agreement that it's a

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Speaker 2: little boring and there's no conflict between us. But I

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Speaker 2: think Ashley, as the season goes on, you know, you

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Speaker 2: and I are going to see the world's very different,

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Speaker 2: and that makes this so much more fun.

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Speaker 4: I do love that as well. That is fun. Okay,

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Speaker 4: was there anything else that we didn't mention?

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Speaker 3: A lot of kissing?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, that was it? Thank you.

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Speaker 4: At first, I was like, Oh, Alicia's going to get

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Speaker 4: the first impression Rose because she gets the kiss. Then

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Speaker 4: I saw that he kissed legit eight. I feel like

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Speaker 4: we saw like eight should have done a kiss tally.

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Speaker 4: That was a lot and it made me. I was

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Speaker 4: like I went in being like, oh, love grit, love

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Speaker 4: him so much, and then I was like, oh God,

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Speaker 4: like really, dude, come on now. I didn't leave the

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Speaker 4: episode like him as much as I went into the episode.

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Speaker 5: Not that I'm like shaming him for kissing.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of bachelers that kiss a lot on

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Speaker 4: the first night, but I do feel like it was like,

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Speaker 4: save some goods.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be a very like physically romantic season.

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Speaker 2: It seems like there's gonna be a lot of like

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Speaker 2: physical chemistry being displayed on our televisions, which is fine.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, a lot of bachelors do it. I

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Speaker 2: don't love watching people make out. It's not really something

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Speaker 2: I enjoy. I like knowing kind of where the relationship

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Speaker 2: stands as the weeks go on and when they kiss,

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Speaker 2: and like to kind of see the chemistry a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but it's not a fun. Part of me watching the

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Speaker 2: show is me having to view and hear two people's

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Speaker 2: smack lips.

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Speaker 4: He looks like a good kisser, though I'm sure he

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Speaker 4: is nothing against his his kiss I have criticized kissing

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Speaker 4: styles in the past.

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Speaker 2: I think Matt Jane was the one that we kept

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Speaker 2: catching him with his eyes wide open. That was always weird.

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Speaker 2: But I have nothing against his style his way of

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Speaker 2: going about it. I just don't love watching it. I

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Speaker 2: would much rather watch everything other than the two of

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Speaker 2: them kiss, and I don't like hearing it, And the

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Speaker 2: show loves to enhance the smacking so that everybody gets

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Speaker 2: a good sense of what's actually happening. If there's tongue

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Speaker 2: involved or not. Ashley, I think this is gonna be

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Speaker 2: a good season.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be any part of this

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Speaker 2: season that feels like past seasons. The reason I say

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Speaker 2: that is I do think Grant has that element of

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Speaker 2: mystery and surprise to us. But I also think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna really like Grant, and I also think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: really like his cast. So I'm excited for this season.

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Speaker 2: I'm going into it excited. I'm ready to watch it.

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for the next week to come around. I hope,

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Speaker 2: as a fan and as a viewer, is that the

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Speaker 2: drama doesn't overtake his ability to connect with these women

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Speaker 2: like I know he wants to. I think Grant has

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Speaker 2: a desire to make this real and to make this raw,

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Speaker 2: to really dig into these relationships, and sometimes the drama

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00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: can overtake that, and we watch five weeks of drama

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Speaker 2: without any progress in relationships, and then we all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden get spit out at the end. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that would be the only way this season gets

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Speaker 2: in a sense ruined to me. Okay, but I still

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Speaker 2: think Alex is the superstar.

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Speaker 3: No matter what.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally agree.

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Speaker 4: I would say my final feedback of this is I'm

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Speaker 4: a little concerned that he might be like a little

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Speaker 4: bit puppy dog ish, he might get swallowed up by

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Speaker 4: the whole thing. Yeah, because he just seems very gentle well,

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Speaker 4: and his.

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Speaker 2: Lack of experience on gen season could add into that. Right,

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Speaker 2: didn't see the end.

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Speaker 5: That always seems to do.

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Speaker 4: So if we go back and look at these guys

545
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 4: that we just named earlier in the show, Matt and Clayton,

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Speaker 4: the less experience you have on the main show except

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Speaker 4: for Hannah Brown. So maybe it's a bachelor thing. Maybe

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00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: it's a bachelor I thing. Maybe it's just a once

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00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: at like one instance type thing. Everybody's different. But he

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Speaker 4: does come across to me as like maybe a little

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Speaker 4: bit Maybe I'm over exaggerating, but maybe he's a little

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Speaker 4: bit naive.

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Speaker 3: I could see it. I think that's a legitimate concern.

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Speaker 2: But Ashley, for other people listening out there, are you,

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Speaker 2: and I know you're honest with us about this, are

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Speaker 2: you excited to watch the rest of the season after

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Speaker 2: Night one?

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Speaker 4: I will tell you this, honestly, I've never been so

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Speaker 4: less excited. I've never been so less excited. Does that

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Speaker 4: make sense. I've never I think people, I've.

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Speaker 5: Never looked forward to pressing play.

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Speaker 4: On an episode less than I did with this.

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Speaker 5: I will be honest, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: I don't feel the same way about next week, but

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Speaker 4: I would rather answer this question after next week's episode.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll ask you again then, Okay, Yeah, Night one's

567
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: always weird.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not saying I liked it. It was good.

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Speaker 4: It was good, but I also wasn't like Homely Crop

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Speaker 4: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would disagree in the fact that I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to watch every episode. I would say that the

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Speaker 2: preview for the rest of the season didn't make me go, I,

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Speaker 2: holy crap, kind of like what is going to like

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: the fence jump stuff. But I do think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a good season. I am personally excited to

578
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Speaker 2: continue to have these cast members evolve and have Grant

579
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Speaker 2: evolve in front of our eyes.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what? Do you know why it was like,

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Speaker 4: we're not like that excited about next week. It's because

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Speaker 4: like we know that the drama that they're really teasing

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Speaker 4: is the last episode.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, we know it's pushed off for so long. Yeah, yeah,

585
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Speaker 2: it could be too. Well, we'll be here no matter

586
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Speaker 2: what throughout the week doing interviews that we're so excited about, headlines,

587
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: catching up with past contestants, but then also every week

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Speaker 2: breaking down the most recent episode of the Bachelor right

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