1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: The volume. All right, here we go, Jason Timpf hoops tonight. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. Is the NBA 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: playoffs start all the odds provided by DraftKings Sports Book, 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: by the way, when we mention them. So I'm gonna 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: pick it up set. I'm gonna go Houston Rockets over 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: the Warriors. And I don't want to do confirmation bias 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: or recency bias because I watched them struggle against Memphis 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: and need an inbounds gaff by the Grizzlies to save it. 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: But the Jonathan Kaminga piece is really a problem. So 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: we've talked about this. It's a highly sophisticated offense. Veterans work, 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: Iguidala kd Andrew Bogan, they work, Steph Clay, Draymond they work. 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: You can be a quirky player like Draymond Green and 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: still be a catalyst. What doesn't work is Wiseman, Jordan Poole, 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: DiAngelo Russell, who's a bit squarely when he was younger 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: and Cominga's productive, But you can't put them on the 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: floor of this unit. Kerr is it's do not play 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: coaches decision and they're dying for length. I mean, I'm 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: watching last night and Zach Eadie is a huge problem. 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: They don't have any length and here comes Houston. They 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: defend the three mon Thompson gave Steph Fitz last time 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: they played length. Now, Curr's the best coach, Curry's the 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: best player. I am not denying that. But and if 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: the games are close, Jason, you'll take the Warriors. Their 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: clutch points are great. They're gonna win these one point 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: games like last night's just a great example of how 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: the Warriors can manipulate the clock possessions and get better 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: defensively when they have to. I don't like this matchup. 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: I was looking at the odds. I don't like this 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: matchup for the Warriors. Right now, the Rockets are plus 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: one sixty five again, odds provided by DraftKings. I'm calling 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: the upset. You think I'm crazy, size, lack of depth, 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Corey dependent, what say you? 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to see you're crazy. I think this 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: is let's just put it this way. I think that 35 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: a defensive minded Rockets team is more capable of beating 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Golden State than say, a defensive minded Magic team is 37 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: capable of beating Boston. That said, I think that the 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: other side of the floor is where it's going to 39 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: become a problem. I have no doubts that Houston is 40 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: going to cause problems for Golden States offense. In their 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: last four games, they've held them to one hundred and 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: five or viewer and all four of them they've held 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: them below one hundred three times. 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Yea. 45 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: They have a bunch of different things that they do 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: that bother them. They put Alburn Shangoon on Moses Moody, 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: which is really smart because it allows them to put 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: all of their three best perimeter defenders on Draymond, Jimmy 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: and Steph and just switch any action that involves those three. 50 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: Aman Thompson is one of the most gifted athletes in 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: terms of foot speed in the league. 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Maybe the best in the series. Yeah. 53 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the the Rockets have a zone look that 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 2: worked really well against the against the Warriors a couple 55 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: There. 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: I have no doubts that the Rockets will be able 58 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: to drag the Warriors offense down into the mud. Here's 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: the problem. I think the war I think the Warriors 60 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: defense is nearly as good as Houston's defense, and I 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: think that they are more capable of doing more damage 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: to a Shanngoon, Jalen Green, Fred Van Vliet led offense 63 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: than the Rockets can do to the Warriors on the 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: other end of the floor. I would not be surprised 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: if it's a longer series. As a Lakers fan, I 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: hope that it's very physical and that it wears them down. 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: But I just have a really hard time believing that 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: the Rockets are going to be able to score enough 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: now to beat the Warriors four times now. 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: They have shot better in the second half of the season. 71 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: They have they have, So there was here's the thing, 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: explain the coming a piece. So listen. I was told 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: this years ago by an NFL executive. He says, be 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: very careful about the last twenty games of this season. 75 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna see teams with winning streaks. Half the league's tanking, 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: and half the league is resting starters for the playoffs. 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: So the Clippers go on this great last fifteen games, 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: and the Warriors have that energy when Jimmy Butler arrives 79 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: and they're playing bad teams and they're just rolling people, 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god. And I fell for it, 81 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: and I said, oh wait till Kaminga comes back. It 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: was about three games with Kaminga in this group, and 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr's like, yeah, I don't Why doesn't it work 84 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: with him? Because I could argue he's exactly what they 85 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: need against Houston size, athletic ability, length. They look small 86 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: last night against Memphis. 87 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, right when the Jimmy trade went down, 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: one of my initial takeaways was, this is the end 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: of Jonathan Kaminga in his time with the Golden State 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Warriors in terms of just him being a meaningful contributor 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 2: to this team. The thing is is they were banking 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: on Jonathan Kaminga becoming that player for the Warrior, become 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: the Jimmy Butler type of player for the Warriors, the 94 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: big forward that they could put next to Draymond that 95 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: would be the scoring pop alongside the starters. As soon 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: as they got Jimmy, they no longer had a role 97 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: for him anymore. You want to know why Kerr went 98 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: with Gie Santos last night, It's because Gi Santos plays 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: the same position, but he can count on Gee to 100 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: not do anything stupid, to just play super hard, to 101 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: grab every rebound he can get, and to take a 102 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: wide open catch and shoot three Jonathan Kaminga's upside is 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: on the ball if you clear the side for him 104 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: and you let him go one on one facing up 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: eighteen feet from the basket. He has a lot of 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: potential in the long term to be very good at that, 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: but he's not good enough at it now to take 108 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: reps away from Steph and away from Jimmy, and so 109 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: all they need from him is to play defense, to 110 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: knock down wide open catch and shoot threes, and to 111 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: play in their read and react in the half court. 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: And he's not very good at any of those three things. 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: And so it just is kind of like a death 114 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: sentence in that regard for his role here. And I 115 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: do think that it's probably in the best interest of 116 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: everybody involved after the season is over to look to 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: move on from Kminga. That said, you made a very 118 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: interesting point specifically about this matchup. I understood the case 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: for the DNPS with Kaminga for the last couple of games, 120 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: super important games. You need higher floor, lower ceiling, like 121 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: you need fewer mistakes. Yes, you couldn't take a risk 122 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: with mistakes in those games. So I understood that case. 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: Specifically for this matchup with Houston, they are so big 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: and so athletic that I think it could. I think 125 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: it could be a Jimmy Butler and Jonathan kminga type 126 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: of series. I think the two of them and their 127 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: athletic advantages could be something they have to lean on 128 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: a lot, especially if the perimeter defense of Houston wears 129 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: Steph down over the course of the series. So if 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: I was Kerr, I would definitely give kaminga some burn 131 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: here in the first couple games of this series, just 132 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: to see what he's got. Now, if he's terrible, bail 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: on him, go back to your rotation that you used 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: in the last couple of games. But I think he's 135 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: an asset as an athlete that you can't afford to 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: keep in your back pocket for a series like this. 137 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: And the Rockets are first of all, they defend the three, 138 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: they got the best athlete in the series, and they 139 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: rebound really well. They're gonna get more. If Cominga doesn't 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: play a lot, they're gonna get second. They're gonna get 141 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of offensive rebound. They're gonna win offensive rebounding throughout 142 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: this series. Looney's gonna play a lot. You're gonna have 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: to play him if you don't play kaminga a lot. 144 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: You're giving up. You're gonna give up the glass, and 145 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: you can win a series losing on the you know, 146 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: in the in the world we play in now, you know, 147 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: Boston can lose the rebounding battle and hit twenty eight 148 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: threes and they win the game by fifteen. But I'll 149 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: tell you I think Houston. I think I think Houston's 150 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: really gonna challenge him, and I think they're gonna be 151 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: low scoring. I think the one advantage that is clear cut, 152 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: and you saw it last night with the Warriors. They're 153 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: so good with two twenty to play in a tie game, 154 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: they are they just know. I mean it's almost like 155 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean the you know, people grabbing and clutching staff 156 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: and you have to be more careful late because they 157 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: may call a foul. And it's just they just figure 158 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: out ways to get Steph really good looks. It's almost 159 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: like red zone offense in the NFL, where it's cluttered 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: and jammed, and yet the good teams find open people. 161 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he just I watched them, and I like 162 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: last night they had a great game plan, jump out 163 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: to a sixteen point lead, eighteen point lead, twenty point lead, 164 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: but in the end, you're like, they just don't have bodies. 165 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: They look incredibly small. Uh, And I just think that 166 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: size is gonna make I think they're the close games 167 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Golden State wins, but I'm going to give Houston a 168 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: couple of games where they just dominate the glass, the 169 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Warriors look tired and they blow them out. It'll be 170 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: a weird looking series. Yeah. 171 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: I said something similar in my series preview, like I 172 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if there was a game either early 173 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: in the series, like a Game one, or like a 174 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: Game five, with the Warriors are up three to one, 175 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: where the Rockets just beat the heck out of them 176 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: and win by like twenty five. I have thirty points 177 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: that get going in transition, they look super athletic. I'm 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: with you overall with the Warriors in the sense that, 179 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: like there was this stretch post deadline where they were 180 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: beating everybody, and yeah, the schedule was weak, but then 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: they got a couple of impressive wins. You beat a 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: decent Memphis team, you beat a Nuggets team without Jamal Murray, 183 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 2: you beat that Lakers team that was one of the 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: biggest wins that they had all season. That was a big, 185 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: nationally televised, super important game for both teams that they won. 186 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: But then after that it's like, they lose to Houston, 187 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: they lose to San Antonio, they beat Portland, but then 188 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: they lose to the Clippers at home in a must 189 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: win game, and then last night for stretches, they looked 190 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: unimpressive as they were trailing in the fourth quarter. So 191 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: I'm kind of it up in the air with the 192 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: Warriors in general now because it's hard to tell how 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: good they really are when they killed everybody for like 194 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: two months, and then for the last two weeks, they've 195 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: looked pretty unimpressive, So I'm kind of up in the 196 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: air with them. The main reason why I've been dropping 197 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: them down in terms of where i'd rank them among 198 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: contenders is I don't trust their shooting. Their shooting can 199 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: go ice cold around Steph Curry, and then, as you mentioned, 200 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: they're a little bit vulnerable to size and physicality, which 201 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: I think can cause some problems for them. I viewed 202 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: them as a little bit more of a flawed contender 203 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: now than I did two weeks ago. 204 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: All Right, Lakers, all odds provided by DraftKings are minus 205 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: one ninety five against the t Wolves. I think this 206 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: is a very favorable Laker matchup, and I think it's 207 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: pretty obvious the Timberwolves, outside of Aunt Edwards, he's going 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: to have to score forty in a couple of these games. 209 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: Julius Randall has historically kind of the classic, plays hard, 210 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: plays with energy, very successful in the regular season, but 211 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: everybody in the postseason plays with energy. And he comes 212 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: right back here. The regressions clear. He's a B player 213 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: who plays with a energy and that is really valuable 214 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: in the regular season, and then you get to the 215 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: postseason and everybody's got equal time off and he's a 216 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: B player and doesn't create sometimes can get a little 217 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: ball selfish. Go Bears, not an offensive player. Mike Conley's 218 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: a play initiator but doesn't provide much offense. And the 219 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Lakers are the team I mean, Boston maybe the only 220 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: team in the league that does this, that has three 221 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: playmakers and three play initiators and at any one time 222 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: can have the three best offensive players playing well on 223 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: the floor. I don't think it's a good matchup for 224 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota at all. This was the bad draw in my 225 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: opinion for the t Wolves. What do you think? 226 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: I totally agree. I think there's a basic talent argument 227 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: you can make for La, which is like, who's better 228 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: Ain't or Luca. You're taking Luca. Who's better Lebron or 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: Julius Randall? Yeah, you're taking Lebron. Who's better Austin Reeves 230 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,359 Speaker 2: or a Jaden McDaniels or a Rudy Gobert or Dante DiVincenzo. 231 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: You're taking Austin Reeves. So I think I think the 232 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: Lakers top three guys are just better, and I think 233 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: that that could be enough to make the case. Where 234 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: I think it gets really interesting is the Timberwolves' greatest 235 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: strength on defense is their combination of perimeter defenders and 236 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert at the rim, and the Lakers can neutralize that. Unfortunately, 237 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: as we saw in the Western Conference Finals last year, 238 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: the best perimeter defender on Minnesota, Jada McDaniels, can't guard Luca. 239 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: He's too skinny. Luca can just throw him around like 240 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: a rag doll. None of the perimeter defenders on Minnesota 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: make Luca uncomfortable, and the Lakers, with their five out 242 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: groups with Dorian Finney Smith instead of Jackson Hayes, they 243 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: can space Rudy out to where he cannot protect the 244 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: rim without conceding a wide open three. When Rudy's on 245 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: the perimeter, he's still a good defender, but he's not 246 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: the transcendently impactful defender he is when he can sit 247 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: right underneath the basket. So I think they neutralize him there. 248 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: On the other end of the floor, the Lakers have 249 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 2: struggled against spread out shooting like against Boston and really 250 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: smart teams with speed like Golden State. Those are the 251 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: teams that have really caused the Lakers issues post Luca trade. 252 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: You know who the Lakers have not struggled with post 253 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: Luca trade. Defensively, the teams that they can load up on. 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: You can load up on the Timberwolves. They are not 255 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: a good spot up team. They're a team that you 256 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: can put two on the ball with ant and not 257 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: get burned. That's the high level playmate. It's just I 258 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 2: look at this as a series where just all of 259 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: the strengths and weaknesses line up in a way to 260 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: where I think the Lakers just have a big advantage. 261 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: This was one of the few series that I picked 262 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: in five games. I think the Lakers are gonna beat 263 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: them in five. 264 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the same way. And the Lakers, I 265 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: could be wrong on this. I think they play as 266 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: good a defense as they need to. I think that 267 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: when I watch them play. There are times I'm like, Oh, 268 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: this is one of those games they really care about. 269 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: And then there are other times I'm like, they're just 270 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: not talking. This is one of those. They either all 271 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: went out and had a nice dinner last night and 272 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: balba bino, They're just not when I watch them, I 273 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: think they're as good as they want to be. Defensively, 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: I don't think they're great, but like Denver's got limitations, 275 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: there's just things. I mean, Jokic, there's just limitations. I 276 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: think the Lakers actually have some pretty good lengthened defensive 277 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: personnel outside of Luca. I think they'll they'll play good 278 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: defense in the playoffs because they'll want to. They'll want 279 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: team when they want to. I think they're pretty capable. 280 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're as good offensively as they've been with 281 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: their best groups. And by the way, that group with 282 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: Dorian Phinney, Smith and Rui next to Lebron, Luke and 283 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 2: Austin has been torching everybody for a long time. Now. 284 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: That unit can really score the ball, so they have 285 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: some margin for err on that side of the floor. 286 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 2: It really is about Lebron. Lebron as like the orchestrator 287 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: on the back line. He plays that Draymond Green esque role, 288 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: just telling everybody where to go, calling out the plays 289 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: as they're starting to take shape. And then Jared Vanderbilt, 290 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Ruey Hachimura, Dorian Finney Smith. It's just a lot of six' 291 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: nine rangy athletes that can cover. Ground i'm not gonna 292 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: Lie colin like The lakers certainly have an uphill, climb 293 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: and there are gonna be multiple series where there'll be 294 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: an underdog if they get to the third and fourth. 295 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: Round but this could not have broken better for them 296 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: than it. 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GREAT i Thought kawhi Being. 344 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: KAWHI i, mean you never know what he's going to, 345 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: play but when he, does he's Still he's got so 346 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: many components that remind me of a little bit of 347 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: a poor Man Michael. Kobe the hand, size this physical 348 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: strength despite not being a heavy, Player he's a very unique. 349 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: PLAYER i mean five years, AGO i thought he was 350 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: a top three player in the. LEAGUE i was, like 351 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: he's a get a, bucket get a stop, guy and 352 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: he you, know in the last couple of, weeks you're, like, 353 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: wow he is, back and he's just a hard guy 354 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: to get a read on. Him that's why Basically pop just, 355 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Said i'd rather not make the. Playoffs i'm not going 356 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: to deal with. This he's an. Enigma they don't have 357 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: besides their starting Center, zubas they don't have any. Size 358 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: i mean their backup Center's Ben. Simmons there's just nothing. 359 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: There So yokich is going to have a monster just 360 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: a monster. Series and also they're so when The jokers 361 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: not on the floor that he's going to play forty, 362 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: minutes like they just can't operate without. Him this is. 363 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: WEIRD i Thought denver is going to be a. Dynasty they're, 364 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: not AND i Knew malone would wear everybody. Out he's 365 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: not A spolstra. Occurred he's not the kind of part, 366 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: psychologist part. Coach he's a little bit of an old, 367 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: school intense. PARKER i want to play. WHO i want 368 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: to play battle with THE, gm BUT i don't know 369 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: IF i buy The clippers late season. RUN i don't 370 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: know IF i do AND i get the world's best basketball. 371 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: PLAYER i don't Trust harden in big playoff. SPOTS i 372 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: Know i'm supposed to take The, clippers BUT i just 373 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: can't See jokic getting run out of THE nba playoffs 374 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: in one. 375 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Round so the point you're making about the regular season 376 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: results down the stretch is a really important. One it's 377 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: really the middle tier that is going as hard as 378 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: they can in this, space because the top tier teams are, 379 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: like we're just trying to be healthy for our first round. 380 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Series the bottom tier teams are we just Want Cooper. 381 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: Flag the middle tier teams are all, like we do 382 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: not want to be in the play In so we're 383 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: going to go every single game like all these teams 384 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: basically from The lakers all the way down through The 385 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: suns have been playing must win basketball every single night 386 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: since the trade deadline has. Passed that's what happens when 387 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: you have the play in tournament in the, mix and 388 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: SO i do think there's something to be said about 389 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: some of the fake results you could see at this. 390 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Point the only thing that makes it a little more 391 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: complicated with The clippers is The Kawhi leonard. Part you 392 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: are taking a team that was already a rock solid 393 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: basketball culture anchored By James, harden a very great floor 394 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 2: raising perimeter player in THE. Nba zubots has become one 395 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: of the top six or seven centers in THE. Nba 396 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: you have the elite perimeter defense talent Of Derek Jones 397 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: junior And. Christne one of the craziest subplots of the 398 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: year is them pivoting From paul Ju, george who averaged 399 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: twenty three points a game for them last, year and 400 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: then being, like, no thank, you and taking two discounted 401 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: perimeter athletes And Derek jones And Chris dunn and basically 402 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: getting a better roster out of, it which is just 403 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: a huge credit to that organization and them just prioritizing 404 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: the right things and the culture they're trying to build, 405 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: there but you're adding to that a player And Kawhi 406 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: leonard that legitimately at this point is an apex superstar 407 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: in this league when he actually has his legs underneath 408 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: him the way he's had him, late the ability to 409 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: get to his, spots the ability to get. Lyft he 410 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: was going On Jimmy butler and making it look, easy 411 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: going Against Raymond green and making it look easy at. 412 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: It he is at his peak as that type of 413 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: gett a, stop get a bucket type of guy right. 414 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: Now that is what changes the ceiling for Me with The. 415 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: CLIPPERS i look at it pretty. Simply they have four 416 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: awesome offensive. Players zoo is like good for twenty points 417 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: a game these, Days harden's good for twenty points a, 418 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: Game powell's good for twenty points a, game And Kawhi 419 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: leonard on any given night can go toe to toe 420 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: with the best superstars in the. League you surround that 421 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: with a strong defensive, foundation elite perimeter. Defense for forty eight, 422 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: Minutes Jamal murray's gonna Have Derek jones And Chris dunn 423 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: all over him that entire. Series zoo even is one 424 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: of the rare guys who's big and strong enough to 425 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 2: kind of hang hang With jokic a little. Bit jokic 426 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 2: tried to post up Zu bots six times this, season 427 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: went one for six from the. Field, NOW i think 428 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: he'll do a little. Better he's too good to not 429 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: figure that. Out but him posting Up zoo is not 430 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: the same as him posting up these other skinny centers 431 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: that he posts around the. League it's a little bit 432 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: harder for him to win the ground battle. There really 433 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: what caused me to pick The clippers in this matchup 434 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: was the defense For, denver right, Right The denver's defense 435 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: is so far, Gone. Colin it's like so far. Gone 436 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: it's like off the reservation. Gone doesn't even slightly resemble 437 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: the defense they won the championship with you And. 438 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: Jason they're just not close part of. It AND i 439 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: really believe defense's effort not to interrupt you. Offense offense is. 440 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: Fun defense is. Not you could Tell malone was in 441 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: trouble to me WHEN i watched their, DEFENSE i, Thought, 442 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: okay they they're not playing hard for the. Coach like 443 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: if a team's playing great defense and they're just limited. 444 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: Offensively some of that's just lack of talent when a, 445 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: team And denver's not a great defensive, Team gordon's very 446 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: long and. Athletic but when they stopped playing defense this, 447 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: year AND i don't know what the analytics, said but 448 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: WHEN i watched, THEM i, mean teams scored. Easily remember 449 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: The lakers went down there and just got great looks 450 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: for two. Hours i'm, Like, Okay malone's in big trouble 451 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: because the great defensive, TEAMS i Mean, boston for as 452 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: good as they, are can play. Defense that means they're 453 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: in tune With. Missoula defense is coaching an, effort and 454 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: SO i think a lot of AND i think the 455 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: problem For denver and A, memphis by the, way is 456 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: when you lose your coach and now you've got kind 457 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: of the substitute teacher who's not as good as the head. 458 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: Coach that's the. Difference that's WHY i Think houston they 459 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: like their, coach they can hang With Golden state is 460 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: they'll just give you an incredible effort every. Night AND 461 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: i Think denver's biggest problem is they quit on their. 462 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: Coach and when you qut on your, coach you quit 463 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: on defense because it's a lot of fricking work in 464 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: this league to stop marginal. Players forget the, Stars. 465 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: No, absolutely and it's all about like. Habits and this 466 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: is the Thing denver is starting from a position of 467 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: disadvantage on. Defense jokic is not a good, Defender Jamal 468 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: murray is not a good. Defender Michael Porter junior is 469 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: not a good. Defender so when they were at their best, 470 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: defensively it was a, combination to your, point of strong 471 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: game planning that fit their personnel in a commitment every 472 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: day to be, like we're going to be so sharp 473 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: in these habits that even though we have these weak, 474 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: points we're going to find a way to get enough 475 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: stops that our offense can carry us over the. Top 476 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: the problem this year is they've let go of those. 477 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 2: Habits and what gets scary is calling like It's april. 478 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: Sixteenth too many examples IN nba history of a team 479 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: who played bad defense all year who was, like all, 480 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: right we got the coach we, want now let's go 481 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: figure this. Out LIKE i just have a hard time 482 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: believing that they're just gonna snap their fingers and look 483 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 2: like the twenty twenty Three. Nuggets and again they're. Capable 484 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: i've Watched Michael porter junior And jamal And jokic play 485 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: much better defense than they've played this. Season it's just 486 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: hard to just start that engine from. Scratch and so 487 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: here's the. Thing maybe they figure it out AND i 488 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: can't write them. Off this was the hardest series for 489 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: me to Pick colin by, far and right now In, 490 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: DraftKings If i'm not, mistaken it's a pick. Them it's 491 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: minus one to ten both. Ways, yeah so like it 492 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: is as close as it can. Get but the reason 493 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: WHY i ended up taking The clippers IS i just 494 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 2: think they're substantially better defensively and closer To denver offensively 495 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: Than denver is to them on the other end of the. 496 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: Well And tyleru is probably worth a game in the. 497 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Series let's be, honest if you have a coaching, advantage 498 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: it's a game in the. Series you make an adjustment 499 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: and the other coaching staff. DOESN'T i think football coaching 500 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: is more valuable than basketball. Coaching BUT i can go 501 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: back to a couple of those That warrior series when 502 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: they beat The celtics in the finals and they went 503 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: back To. Boston, boy that was a lot of. Coaching 504 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: that was great coaching By Steve. Kerr SO i. THINK 505 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: i Think tyleru is one of the more. Understated you, 506 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: know he's not a guy that needs a lot of. 507 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: Publicity he was a grinder as a. Player he's a 508 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: grinder as a. Coach but he'll be worth a game 509 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: against you, know against the substitute. Teacher he's going to 510 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: be worth a game in the. Series SO i. AGREE 511 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: i think The clippers are going to win. Too but 512 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it is hard BECAUSE i said this the other. DAY 513 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: i had actually somebody come up to me on the 514 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: street and he was a Former. Laker it Was sasha 515 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: AND i, SAID i, SAID i, said the best Center 516 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: i've ever. Seen complete Players kareem AND i grew up with. 517 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Him he was a fourteen to fifteen Time All Defensive 518 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: team ran the floor when he was, young, rebound, unstoppable offensive, force, 519 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: cerebral prickly but could throw on. Elbow you, know Ask Kent. 520 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: BENSON i think the player he went, after he could 521 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: give you. Everything he was, wiry but even could be. 522 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: PHYSICAL i think because of that defensive, prowess he is 523 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: better Than. JOKIC i Think jokic is the second most 524 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: gifted center of all. Time now people would Say, wilt 525 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: But wilt was. Flaky you didn't know what the effort you. 526 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Got he wasn't easy to play. With you got different 527 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: variations Of wilt depending on the night, before And wilt 528 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: was kind of Into wilt WHERE i Think jokic is 529 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: actually a really good team. PLAYER i just think he's 530 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: not engaged defensively all the. Time BUT i outside Of, 531 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: KAREEM i mean generally with a, CENTER i can say shack, 532 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: power russell, defense a team, FOOTWORK i can say. SOMETHING 533 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: i look At jokic And i'm. 534 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: Like, like If, KAREEM i mean If kareem Or Vetas 535 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 4: Sabonis Bill walton had a, Baby it's, like you, KNOW 536 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 4: i Think Bill walton is the one, player very, briefly 537 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: not the Old walton with A celtics who was, great 538 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: but he wasn't as good as THE ucla or The Portland. 539 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Walton there was a time When Bill walton was like 540 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: the best passing big, ever the best mid range jumper 541 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: ran the, floor could be super, physical kind of. Weird 542 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: BUT i Think jokic IS i just don't Think i've 543 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: ever quite seen anything like. Him that's my. DAD i 544 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: don't know If i've ever seen anything like. 545 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: Him he's the best offensive Player i've ever Seen Colin 546 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 2: wow AND i have watched and rooted for two of 547 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: the greats that have ever done that or rooted for. 548 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: AGAINST i should SAY i Think lebron is on the 549 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: short list of guys who are in that. CONVERSATION i 550 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: Think steph is on the shortlist of guys who are 551 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: in that. Conversation having rooted For lebron and then being 552 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: terrified Of steph and rooting against him over the, YEARS 553 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: i know what it's like to be on the other 554 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: end of a player who like legitimately creates a great 555 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: shot almost every time down the. Floor jokic makes it 556 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: look even easier than those guys. Do it's the top 557 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: tier playmaking piece that you get From, lebron the inverted 558 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: spacing that you get From steph that creates all the 559 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: dunks and layups right underneath the, basket but mixed in 560 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: with the lack of variants because Like, steph Like steph 561 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: will have games where he just can't make a shot. 562 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: Right you know that doesn't happen With. Jokic like if 563 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: he gets into the five to ten foot, range it's 564 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: going in two out of three, times like. Clockwork he's 565 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: gonna make it and so there's a lack of, variance 566 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: there's a power element to. It he can kind of 567 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: audible into different, players like it's, Like, Okay i'm playing The, 568 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: Spurs i'm just gonna post up every single time down the. 569 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: Floor watching This clippers, series we won't see as Much 570 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: jokics post. Ups it's not his. Advantage but guess. What 571 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: he can run inverted ball screens and like literally play 572 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: pick and roll as the handler out on the. Perimeter 573 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: he can run two man game With Jamal. Murray his 574 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: versatility and dependability night, tonight mixed with all the inverted 575 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: stuff he does with the, SPACING i have never seen 576 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: a player make it look easier on offense Than Nikola jokic. 577 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: Did like it's it's rooting against him is absolute. Hell 578 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: having had to do that over the last couple of. 579 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Years he deserves a good amount of criticism for what 580 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: happened to their defense this, year especially in the second 581 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: half of the. YEAR i thought he just straight up 582 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: mailed it, in and you made some good points about 583 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: how that might have had something to do With Mike. 584 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: MALONE i agree with. You but even if you just 585 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: take that and set it, aside he still had one 586 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: of the greatest seasons in the history of the league 587 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: because he's the greatest offensive player to ever touch the. 588 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Floor, yeah it. Is you, know it's funny Because luca 589 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: and him have kind of similar body types where they're 590 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: in great, shape probably you, know relative for the type 591 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: for the, type But luca's got a lot of hurk 592 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: and jerk and start and stop to his game that gets. 593 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Open he's very good At he's just keeps you constantly 594 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: on his hip and off. Balance you're never quite sure 595 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: he's not, fast but he is kind of quick for his, 596 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: size and he's always bouncing off you never loses kind 597 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: of composure or the. Ball why there's, contact but it's 598 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: a start stop game that's hard to you, know that's 599 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: hard to. Defend jokis just sort of rolls into, you 600 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: AND i think a lot of players they're Like draymond 601 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: has said, this there's no real book on him because 602 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: it's it's you, know in THE, nfl there's always that 603 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: they always talk about that bad. Body offensive Lineman Donald 604 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: penn was known as this for The. Raiders bad body so, 605 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: effective like there was No week's body was weirdly long 606 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: and he had a weird ass and his shoulders were, 607 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: huge and it was like a bad body offensive lineman 608 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: where it's, like, yeah it's just defensive players couldn't quite 609 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: figure out a weak. SPOT i think there's nobody else 610 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: kind of quite built like, him that plays like, Him 611 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: so you, KNOW i, mean there are certain guys in this. 612 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: LEAGUE i mean just think about. It if you do the, 613 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: silhouette nobody else had a, Skyhook nobody quite moves cardio 614 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: wise Like. STEPH i think part of what he does 615 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: is no other Big when you play, him it's just, 616 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: okay this is there's no warm. Up this is the 617 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: only guy that plays like. This And i'm not saying 618 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: the league is, similar but there are a lot of, twitchy, 619 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: long athletic guys who have similar moves that they learn 620 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: from camps and, coaches right and certain step. MOVES i 621 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: Think jokic is a disaster to defend the. BODY i 622 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: mean a lot of times he just leans in and 623 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: you get trapped under him around the. BACK i ever 624 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: see this when these big guys get trapped and he 625 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: gets like three looks and you just Can't you can't 626 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: get your hips aligned to box him. 627 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: Out you can't jump when you're connected with. Him that's the. 628 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 2: Thing this is why boxing out is so. Important when 629 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: you box a player, out it keeps him groundbound so 630 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: that you can come in from behind to get the 631 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: rebound elsewhere on the. Floor, Similarly yokic does the same 632 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: thing to defensive. Players he's constantly dislodging you and putting 633 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: you in these situations where you are are not athletic 634 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: because he's disrupted your base so you can't, Jump and 635 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: then that, way he just finds these little angles for 636 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: these little release. POINTS i love the point you made 637 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: about how the league has, changed BECAUSE i foud this 638 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: to be really. Fascinating so part Of Michael jordan's dominance 639 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: was that the league was so big and, slow and 640 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: so he was this lightning quick guard that could just 641 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: cut through everyone like. Butter, similarly With, jokic the league 642 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: is so thin and, fast yes that he's just a 643 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: bowling ball that's just knocking everybody over on his way 644 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: to the rim in a weird, way like part of 645 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: it is just the timing of the. Era but to his, 646 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: credit because this is the, thing there are a lot 647 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: of big centers that can't play in THE nba today 648 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: because they can't do this or they can't do. That 649 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: they struggle with, this they struggle with. That jokic because 650 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: he's good enough in all of these other areas to 651 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: be a USEFUL nba, player can weaponize his, size and 652 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: all of a, sudden it's, like, oh, man there's four 653 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty players in this, league And Joel embiid 654 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: might be the only guy big enough to actually deal with. 655 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 2: Him and he's not even healthy all the, time so 656 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: he just has a mismatch every single night because of 657 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: the era that he plays. 658 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: In, well it's Like Derrick, henry the running back for The. 659 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: Ravens as linebackers and safeties have gotten smaller because the 660 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: game is. Faster linebackers are two twenty. Five Dereck henry's two, 661 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: Fifty so you, know twenty years ago linebackers were as 662 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: big As Derrick, henry and now guys can't they Just 663 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: derek is a physical mismatch and he gets a running. 664 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: Start AND i do think That i've said. 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To they've got, 683 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: size they've got, Depth they're well, coached and because they 684 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: don't have a trophy, yet they play their ass. Off 685 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: this is a team that wants home court. Advantage they're 686 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: young enough where they know if there is any disadvantage 687 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: in the. Playoffs it's young guys playing road games at 688 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: The Chase, center you, know At crypto like. That that's 689 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: when they play a veteran team on the. Road that's 690 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: where things get. Dicey you don't get those. Calls role 691 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: players in the playoffs don't play well in the. Road 692 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: they're often very good at, home so they want home court. 693 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: Advantage so part of me, Thinks, okay they're a little 694 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: overvalued as a team because they really remember That Derek rose. 695 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: Teams those teams played so hard they wanted home court. 696 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: Advantage they were. Young boston's like sometimes plays better on 697 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: the road than at. Home you, know it doesn't really 698 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: matter for. THEM i look At okay see AND i, Think, 699 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: okay if you take the regular, season they should sort 700 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: of roll through. This BUT i watched them about six 701 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: times this year in a big game when they played you, 702 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: know The lakers or The celtics or The calves or The, 703 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: bucks and you're, like when everybody brings the. ENERGY i 704 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 1: don't think they're sweeping. SERIES i THINK i think they'll 705 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: struggle a little bit on the. ROAD i, mean they 706 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: can get REALLY sga. RELIANT i mean he is And, 707 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: ALSO i don't think he'll quite get the. Whistle we've 708 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: seen this With, harden we saw it With Karl. MALONE i, 709 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: mean they're not getting bounced, early BUT i think it'll 710 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: look a little different in the. 711 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: POSTSEASON i agree THE i think THEY'LL i think they'll 712 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: kick the shit out of whoever gets the eight, seed 713 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: Like sacramento Or memphis or whatever like. That those TEAMS 714 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: i think they'll deal. With memphis has been down the 715 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: turning down for a long. Time there's actually a long 716 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: conversation we could have on another day about How memphis 717 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: should probably totally reconsider who they build their team around 718 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: because it just looks it just doesn't look even remotely good. 719 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: Enough But sacramento doesn't have the horses, Defensively dallas because 720 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: of the injury To Kyrie, irving doesn't have the ball. 721 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 2: Handling they're gonna beat whoever they get in that first round, 722 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 2: series but from there it's like they're gonna get either 723 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: that Awesome clippers team Or, Nakoliokich and then on the 724 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: other side of the bracket they're gonna get most likely 725 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: either The lakers or The warriors waiting for them on 726 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: the other side there and The warriors have beat The 727 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: thunder this. Year, yeah The lakers have beat The thunder this. 728 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: YEAR i watched that they have their advantages in that. 729 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: Matchup as a matter of, Fact i'd probably picked The 730 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: lakers to beat them if they ran into him in a. 731 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: Series and so it's one of those things WHERE i 732 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: THINK i look back to several of these big games 733 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: and the same thing has happened in every single one of, 734 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 2: them which is all of the younger. Stars AND i 735 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: like Chet is chet is going to be a PERENNIAL rnba. 736 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: Game really good. 737 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 2: PLAYER j dub is going to be a Perennial All. 738 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: Star i'm a huge believer in that roster in the big. 739 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: Picture but those are some young, Dudes colin and they 740 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: there is something to be said about, Basketball, Aura and 741 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: you end up on a court with a bunch of 742 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: guys who are more comfortable and more confident and more 743 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: experienced than. You and let's say The thunder make it 744 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: to the. Finals let's say they get to the finals 745 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: and they run Into. Boston how many times IN nba 746 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: history it just happened To boston in twenty twenty. Two 747 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 2: you end up there and it's like all of a, 748 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 2: Sudden tatum is just like scared and not playing anything 749 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: like he normally, does and they're just succumbing to the 750 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: aura of The. Warriors over the course that, series even 751 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: the all time Greats Colin steph was pretty rough in 752 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: his FIRST nba. Finals lebron was brutal in his FIRST Nba. 753 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: Finals it is totally normal when you get to that 754 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: stage to be, LIKE, whoa this is. Different there's way more, 755 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: media the games feel. Weird there's like it's just a 756 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 2: very different type of. Vibe and SO i think my 757 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: concern is that they have two reliable. THINGS i think 758 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: their defense is, reliable AND i Think shay is. Reliable 759 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: BUT i do think there's absolutely a great deal of 760 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: variance in their supporting offensive. Talent and if you have 761 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: that kind of, variance you absolutely can lose to The, 762 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 2: clippers you absolutely can lose to The, nuggets you absolutely 763 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: can lose to The lakers Or. 764 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: Warriors, WELL i mean we saw it in college. BASKETBALL 765 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: i didn't Pick duke to win. It why too many young? 766 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: Players you get into these close, games you get into 767 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: against more physical, teams and, like if you've never made 768 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: a long playoff run and you're really. Talented you can't 769 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: believe how fricking physical the conference finals. GET i mean 770 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: it is, Noticeable. Jason the referees change the way they 771 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: officiate for the conference. FINALS i mean they swallow the, 772 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: whistle and you'll notice it a little bit early in the. 773 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: Playoffs but a lot of. TIMES i can remember THAT 774 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: okc team that Had harden And westbrook And Kevin. Durant 775 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: they were really good and they just didn't like they 776 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: just quite didn't didn't quite you, know in the regular, 777 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: season they fly into, town they blitz. You you look at a 778 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: little bit of, film they had too much, offenses, like 779 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: what the hell is? This and everybody just kind of you, 780 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: know at that, point we didn't know exactly What harden 781 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: was going to. BE I i think they're going to 782 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: find out in the conference. Final by the second, series 783 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: they're going to find out on the. Road it's a 784 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: totally different. 785 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: SPORT nba history tells us that this team's like this 786 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 2: thunder team usually win like next year or the year. 787 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: After cleveland two years. Ago we thought was. 788 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: Ready it's, like it's just what usually happens is you 789 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 2: take a couple of hard losses in late playoff rounds 790 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: and a couple of key players take those losses to 791 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: heart and make important improvements in specific parts of their, 792 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: game and then they end up in a series where 793 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: they're like a two seed instead of the runaway one, 794 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: seed and they're there and they're, like we're not losing this, 795 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: year and then they rise to the occasion and they 796 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 2: get it. Done it's kind of like what happened with The. 797 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: Celtics you have the disappointment of what happened in twenty twenty, 798 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 2: two then it gets even worse in the conference finals next, 799 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 2: year and it's, like, Whoa Jalen brown really needs to 800 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 2: improve as a ball, handler and then all of it 801 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: just comes together in twenty twenty, four all of a, 802 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: Sudden Jalen brown's Winning FINALS, Mvp like it usually is, 803 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: incremental not immediate when it comes to the success of 804 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: these younger, Teams and, yeah they'll have, breakthroughs they met upset. 805 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: SOMEBODY i wouldn't be surprised if The thunder made it 806 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: to the finals this. Year as a matter of, FACT 807 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: i still think they should be favored to win The. 808 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: West but it's JUST i have a really hard time 809 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: believing that if they made it to the, finals they 810 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 2: would be the more comfortable and more confident team Against. 811 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: Boston AND i still Think boston has more talent than, 812 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: them SO i just would have a really hard time 813 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: picking against. 814 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: Them, YEAH i think The celtics ARE i think if 815 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: you look at the history of THE, nba because aesthetics 816 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: matter so much that we love The Shaq kobe, dynasty 817 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: The michael, dynasty The katie. Dynasty we didn't love The 818 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: spurs dynasty and it was as good as any of 819 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: them because it wasn't as much. Fun AND i think 820 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 1: Because boston doesn't have a ton of. Personality Joe mizzoola 821 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: is very, quiet Very, christian very much about team and. 822 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: Defense he's a wonderful, coach no flash from the. Coach 823 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: Tatum is can say he wants to be the face 824 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: of the, league but he just doesn't have that. Aura 825 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: Jalen brown's probably the voice of the locker, room but you, 826 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: know he's almost like, academic and you know he feels 827 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: sort of almost respectful when he speaks with. Confidence, Right 828 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: porzingis isn't that. Guy Drew holliday is one of the 829 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: league's most respected. Players there's not a lot of it's 830 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: not a, yeah it's not a dynamic. TEAM i Think 831 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: boston's really, good AND i think That's San. Antonio you 832 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: had man who's the best six man. Ever duncan's one 833 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: of the ten best players. Ever Tony parker was AN. 834 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: Mvp they had Excellent Bruce, bowen all sorts of different 835 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: players that came in and played great. Roles popovich's top five. 836 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: Coach we never mentioned them because esthetically it just wasn't 837 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: that much. FUN i went to Ten spurs games BECAUSE 838 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: i was In portland at the, time And i've been 839 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: TO i went to ten of their, games The spurs 840 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: games when they were in The. Dynasty, jesus it was so. 841 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: Clinical it was a great surgeon walking, in you, know 842 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: winning one oh one ninety, three and it was like 843 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: did they break a? Sweat it was just every game 844 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: looked the exact. Same and Now boston has very variation 845 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: because of their three point. Shooting they have knights when 846 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: they're just unbelievable and nights when they missed forty two. 847 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: Threes so there's great variables on how they. PLAY i 848 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: think THERE'S i, mean they have nine, guys ten guys 849 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: who could handle the, ball pass and shoot a. 850 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: Three the only Thing i'll say About boston that's concerning 851 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: me just a tiny, bit and it's just something we 852 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: should keep on our, radar call in because we could 853 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: be having a very different conversation in a week or. 854 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: Two Jalen brown got a pain relieving injection and his. 855 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 2: Knee i'm not sure if you saw. That he's been 856 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: dealing with knee issues throughout the year and he got 857 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: a pain relieving injection when this was about a week. 858 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: Ago and So jalen's, Knee let's say that becomes an 859 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: issue and then like one Of horford Or porzingis goes. 860 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: Down that's where it could end up in a situation 861 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 2: where you're trying to close games with A Sam houser 862 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 2: on the, floor or you're trying to close games with 863 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,479 Speaker 2: A Payton pritcher on the, floor and suddenly they become 864 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 2: a little bit easier to, attack a little bit less 865 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: dynamic on. Offense i'm just my ears are just a 866 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 2: little pricked, up And i'm a Little i'm paying attention 867 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: to their. Health that is one thing to keep an eye, 868 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 2: on just Because Jalen. BROWN i, THINK i think if 869 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 2: you lose one Of tatum Or, brown it just gets 870 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: really hard in terms of shot, creation, because as you 871 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: saw in The maverick, series it's Just jalen's apex athleticism 872 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 2: is still an important part of the ceiling of This celtics, 873 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: team even though he can be a frustrating, player you, 874 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: know relative To tatum in terms of his. Consistency so 875 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 2: just something to keep an eye on. There BUT i 876 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 2: do agree with. YOU i just every TIME i talk through, 877 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: IT i just have such an easier time discussing flaws 878 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: and finding flaws with other teams THAN i do with. 879 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: Last that's really that. 880 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: Simple jason timp oops. Tonight good talking to, You, bud 881 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: can't wait for. 882 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 2: It good to see you two. Man i'll see next. 883 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: Time the volume