WEBVTT - Spillover Week 8 Thoughts + Teams To Take Seriously 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.880 Welcome to the solid verbal. Hell that for me. I'm 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.200 a man, I'm forty. 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:10.639 be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.000 You want to be happy for a day? Edo Steak 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:20.360 is that woo whoom? And Dan and tie me Tuesday, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.040 Anna Rubinstein, my good friend out there in the heart 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:28.760 of the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, Sir, welcome back 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:29.840 to the show, my friend. How are you. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:33.120 I'm good, Tye, I'm good. I have I have spillover thoughts, 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.440 I have verbala answers, I have whatever you need from 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.920 I'm here for you, Tie, I'm here for the listeners. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.760 We've got a lot to get to. 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We can deal with that in our 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.760 own time a little bit later on this week, but 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:26.920 great to have you with us. We've got a new 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.920 Verballer Top twelve poll that we're going to unveil here momentarily. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.640 We've got some news in the coaching world starting to 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.240 trickle in. Took a little bit longer maybe than we thought, 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.160 but starting to occur. We do have those leftover thoughts 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.959 from week eight, and we're going to take a glimpse 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.840 ahead at some of the big games this coming weekend 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.600 as well as look at the weekday games and play 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.000 a little game of well, I won't spoil the surprise 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:59.560 at way? Oh okay, Averballer suggestion from our ardent supporters 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.040 out at verbowlers dot com Dan loaded Hut can't wait. 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.680 Why don't we start with our new verboler Top twelve pole, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.680 though we've kind of grown accustomed to starting here. Whenever 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.040 we do these Tuesday spillover episodes, it is voted on 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.880 by our paying subscribers out at a verbolers dot com. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.360 If you're interested, that's one way you can support the show, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.000 get bonus episodes, add free content. You know the deal 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.720 at number twelve, it's BYU at number eleven, It's Indiana 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:34.680 at number ten, It's Tennessee. Number nine, is Clemson number eight, 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.760 LSU number seven, Iowa state moving up, just creeping on up, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:45.880 number six, Miami, number five, Texas, Yes, they drop down 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.360 to five, number four, Penn State number three, Ohio, state 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:55.920 number two, Georgia, and number one your Oregon Ducks, Dan thoughts, reactions, 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:57.760 deep inner feelings. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.839 Who else received votes? Do you have that in front 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.520 of you as well like you have thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.880 am I putting you on the spot. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.600 With thirteen would be notre dame? Okay, fourteen would be 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:12.600 a and m okay. Fifteen is Alabama? Uh huh? And 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:18.680 sixteen is the Army Black Knights ooh okay. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.760 So, as a Notre dame human, do you feel like 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.240 they should have received more Top twelve consideration or you 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.359 find because they are ranked higher than the eighty people? 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.760 Right they are? They are? And no, The answer is no. 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.880 I think, ok I think putting BYU in Indiana in 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:36.560 front of them at this point is totally justifiable. I look, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.880 I have been a Notre Dame skeptic for a while now. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.400 Really ever since that n You game, I've You've been 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.320 a Notre Dame skeptics since nineteen ninety three thirty three. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.760 I have struggled a little bit with where to put 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.720 this team on that totem pole, and so it doesn't 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.000 bother me to see them outside of our group's top twelve. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.840 I think there are varying opinions on that, but by 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:01.960 and large it's the back half of the top ten 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.760 if they're in at all. Right now, I do think 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.440 if push comes to shove, if they keep winning out, 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.240 it looks probable that they will continue winning out. Notre 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.920 Dame will find a way into a playoff. There's almost 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.760 no doubt about that. But certainly Army on the schedule 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.640 in a few weeks, Navy on the schedule this week, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.200 which will preview on the Thursday episode. If you've got 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.240 games against Florida State, they still got that game against 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.800 USC as well to close out the year, So Notre 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.240 Dame will have opportunities here, I think, to showcase what 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.880 they can do on national television. YEP, But for the 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.440 time being, this seems about right. To me, Iowa State 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.800 at seven is the only team I really react to. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.680 And you know that I'm pretty high on Iowa State. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.159 I've been for a while. Seven feels high to me. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.640 Seven fields high to me. Based on what we saw, 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.479 be inclined to put LSU above Iowa State just based 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.200 on recent results and the poll if we look at 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:58.280 the points, seems to dictate, dictate. Excuse me that there's 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.239 a bit of a drop off after Miami. After Miami 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:05.400 at six, that's when there's a lot of sameness, let's say, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.080 for the next five or six spots, and my sense 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.839 that that's where our voting public really struggled to place 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:12.640 teams in order. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:18.000 Okay, Interestingly, when I look at the back half of 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.279 this top twenty five, I see a lot of danger, 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.599 Like I see a lot of potential for dramatic jump ups. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.400 Whereas you're right, I mean, I don't think I would 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.839 consider myself an Iowa State skeptic. But the way that 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.680 the defense performed, or rather didn't perform against UCF just 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.279 has me has me has. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:36.960 My eye a skance. I don't know if that's the 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.840 right way to say. No, Well, I it just gave 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.839 up so many big plays, you know, the big place. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.320 And look they won their clunker, right, That's what winning 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.320 teams do. That's what good teams do. They have down weeks, 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.719 but they still win in their down weeks. But when 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.320 I look at the back half, I look at the 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.000 ceiling of ole Miss, I know, not a great loss 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.120 to Kentucky. I grant you the ceiling of ole Miss. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.560 The ceiling of Poise State has now one of the 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.200 best laws in America. They've exclusively lost to the number 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.040 one team in America, America's Oregon Ducks. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.479 Yes, you're Orgon docks. Yeah, America's Surgon Ducks. If you see. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:14.960 Yeah, Kansas State is looking stronger by the week. And 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.320 we'll get into this a little bit more with spillover thoughts. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:19.880 My god, did their offense look clean? I don't know 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:22.719 if the Kansas State equipment managers need to do laundry. Yeah, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.760 after how little West Virginia was able to get to them, 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.920 and they appear to be especially Avery Johnson like he is, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.960 it's no surprise the quarterback is the identity right now. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:32.320 Uh. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.880 He is a grower. He is an absolute grower. May 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.360 not have been a shower in September, but is growing 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.599 into his role quite impressively. So I look at those 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.960 two teams, Kansas State, Ole Miss, which. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.800 By the way, I should add if you want, I mean, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.960 we didn't really read these off. But if we want 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.080 to go through the full top twenty five, I know 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.360 ball Side please do. Boise State at seventeen, followed by 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:57.200 Pitt Navy, Illinois, Kansas State, SMU, Old Miss Vanderbilt in 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.039 the Zoo. That will be your full top twenty five. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:04.880 SMU another team that has vault potential. I have some 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.800 leftover thoughts on SMU. I do. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.840 I imagine you do, because I have some leftover potential here. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.360 But there are leftover thoughts on their potential SMU, just 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.760 with the rest of their schedule, with how the defense is. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:18.679 Peaking right now. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.120 It was Stanford this past weekend, So I don't know 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.880 how much spillover you have about SMU Stanford specifically, but 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.640 there's a lot of danger in this back half, and 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.800 I don't know, like with what Texas's schedule, I don't 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.600 have Texas schedule in front of me. Another at Vandy 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.560 this week. Oregon schedule has opened up a little bit, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.040 like I don't know Miami, you're sure is going to 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.160 take a hit here or there. Indiana is now and 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.120 this is another spill over without Curtis Rourke for an 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.160 indeterminate amount of time. Right, it's a Taven Jackson Indiana 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:54.920 program right now. Just there's a lot of interesting wiggle 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:55.960 room in this back half. 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.160 All right, well, right in soliverbogmail dot com or we're 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.360 going to have this posted out on our social media accounts. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.880 Chime in out there if you haven't had a chance 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.559 to do so already on overbowlers dot com, comment thread 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.240 or discord server, any of that stuff. We'd love to 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.320 hear your thoughts on who's too high, who's too low? 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.480 And again, if you go on out tiverbowlers dot com, 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.880 you can sign up and vote in the poll next week. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.520 Every now and again, maybe next week I'll give out 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.480 a few invites to vote. I've done that on occasion. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:25.560 That was a lot of fun. How do you feel 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:30.000 about Penn State at four? It's fine, it's fine, slow 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.600 down with the enthusiast, Well, it's okay. In our poll, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.000 Georgia's above Penn State, and I think that's right. That 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.920 feels about right to me. I'm glad that they're getting 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.280 the nod over. I'm not glad, but I think it's 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:44.960 right that they would get the nod over. I think 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.960 their performance on the road has earned them something. Yeah. Yeah, 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.959 we'll find out what Penn State's all about in two 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.000 weeks when Ohio State comes to town. But for the 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.120 time being, anyway, I think it's I don't know. I 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:57.520 don't have a problem with this. I don't have a problem 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.199 with Texas at five. I think this kind of act 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.200 up in a pretty good way. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.360 I think Texas is better, but Penn State hasn't lost 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.319 and so and that's the time with them before does 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.640 winning is better than losing no matter who you're playing. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.439 Penn State has won. Below Texas is where I start 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.520 to see, like, as much as Clemson has grown, I 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.840 want to see it against somebody interesting. But I think 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.720 Clemson being the top ten is totally good. Tennessee winning 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.800 as a skill. They won. That was a nice win. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.000 I just think there's so much volatility potential here between 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.439 six and sixteen. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:36.199 Yeah, you're not ready to let this go. I was 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.439 ready to move on. You're ready, I know, my business man. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.800 I'm hyped tie, I'm into it. You're not even a 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.400 pole guy and you're into this poll. 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.480 No, I'm into it because when I see it organized 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.320 in front of me, and I look at AP poles 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.960 and coaches poles and everything. But when I see top 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.160 to bottom what the top twenty five is looking right now, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:53.640 I don't know. I get a little tingle. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:10:00.120 It's great. Let's get to some news, shall we. Okay, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:09.840 we do have some breaking news. Seth Latrelle out as 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:15.800 offensive coordinator at Oklahoma. Brent Vnables made that announcement. They 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.280 are turning the reins over to Joe John Finley along 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.360 with Kevin Johns, who was formerly an analyst, formerly an 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:27.360 offensive coordinator for Duke, but Kevin Johns was with Oklahoma 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.400 in an analyst role. They're going to be kind of 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.360 tag team in this. It looks like Joe John Finley 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.240 is going to be sort of the main guy. We've 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:40.480 got Andy Ludwig resigning as offensive coordinator at Utah kind 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.160 of came out of nowhere. And we've got Mike Houston, 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.160 the first head coach fired this season, fired by ECU. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.480 ECU lost a week ago, and it turns out that 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.560 was the final straw ECU came into the season, notably 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.200 with one of the better defenses in conference, but offense 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.920 is always going to be a bit of a struggle bus, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.480 and as such, they decide that they are going to 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.880 cut the cord. SEU, the first on the board, will 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.880 confer coach an in reaction to these coaching maneuvers. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.120 You know, when you look at what Seth Latrell the 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.480 hand he was dealt a little bit this year, and 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:17.280 same with Andy Ludwig with quarterback injury, you say to yourself, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.040 on one hand, behind your back, what are you supposed 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.880 to do with the receivers that are hurt for Oklahoma? 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.920 With Jackson Arrold not working out? That said, as the 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.480 offensive coordinator, you're supposed to help Jackson. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:29.960 Arrald to work out. Yeah, exactly. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.600 And I know they had losses on the offensive line 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:36.320 as well, and it's a tough schedule and there's a 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.720 number of checkboxes there. But also you got to make 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.000 chicken salad, and Oklahoma's ability to make chicken salads seem 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:46.560 to get worse every week. And so obviously we're not 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.120 privy to exactly what's happening behind the scenes, and or 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:52.280 heads budding if you know, the communication was broken down whatever, 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.080 But bigger picture, Brent Vnables has now fired a defensive 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:01.680 coordinator and offensive coordinator in the lasts something like that. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.400 I feel like he had to do something though, I mean, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.240 the offense has been an unmitigated disaster. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.599 You risk total mutiny. Oh, I'm not saying it's the 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:20.160 wrong move. I'm saying Brent Venables's ability to go after diagnose, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:25.760 connect with potential coordinator candidates. If it's not, we're if 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.080 we're talking about both sides of the ball in ten months, 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.280 where's the confidence that Brent Vnnibles is working out long term? 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:32.840 I don't know if he has just has a small 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.480 network because he was at Clemson for so long, or 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.760 it was just unwilling to take a shot on somebody 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.120 he didn't know or hadn't spent time with. Like, I 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.360 don't know what the thinking was behind those two hires. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.280 Those were very much people he was familiar with, instead 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:46.880 of like, what is the best thing to do in 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.560 college football in twenty twenty four? In the SEC it 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.880 wasn't Seth Latrell, it wasn't Ted Roof. So I'm calling 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.080 into like the program vision right now of Brent Venables. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.400 Well, and I was going to bring up the ted 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.680 roof thing. I mean, it's become a popular punchline on 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.680 this show. I talk about the leaky roof often. But 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.240 that was a guy that he sort of knew, right, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.280 And we have seen other recent instances of hiring the 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.080 guy that you know, not really working out. Marcus Freeman 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.000 did that with Jared Parker, right. We see how well 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:22.240 that's working out at Troy at present, So you know, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.600 they had to do something. This offense was not in 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.839 a good place. It is not solely because of the quarterback, 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.920 but the quarterback is going to be the most prominent 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.080 reason why that people I think cite and that will 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.120 they won't they start Jackson Arnold? Will they go to 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.560 Michael Hawkins Junior. You know, we've kind of gone a 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.200 few cycles through this now, and I suspect if you're 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.840 an Oklahoma fan, there's reason for frustration. This was a 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.679 move that needed to be done just so not to 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.319 forget about the locker room so you don't lose the 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.040 fan base. Fan base was extremely frustrated. What do you 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.400 think of this? Andy Ludwig resignation? At you tak Utah? 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.760 So I think I looked this up Utah had like 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.760 the one hundred and twelve points per drive offense has 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.599 the most, has the one hundred and twelve points for 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.800 drive offense thus far this year and Oklahomas at about 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:10.679 one hundred and eleventh. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:12.320 They're right there, neck and neck. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.560 And I don't know if this was a conversation to 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.000 say face, I don't know what the agreement was behind 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.520 the scenes. I mean, always get fired instead of resigning 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.600 just for money reasons. I guess severance, right, what that 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.560 take that money? Yeah, I don't know if some sort 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.000 of agreement was in place that he would get his severance, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.600 but you know, has the dignity to be the one 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.080 stepping down because he felt like he wasn't able to 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:35.880 get the most out of his players and that he 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.520 should take the responsibility. Maybe behind the scenes there was something. 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.200 Yeah, But I've got some thoughts on Utah. By the way, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.560 when we get to leftovers, I have well, by the way, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.840 it's not exactly a secret theory, but I have a 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.560 theory on this decision. I have. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.680 I have a theory myself, and I think Utah just 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.480 lost their their by far, their best recruiting, their biggest commitment. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.400 Aaron Dunn offensive lineman. They may have all a couple 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:04.560 of pretty decent sized ones, and now Andy Ludwig decides 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:05.040 to resign. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.280 Yeah, don't say it. Don't say Let's save it for 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.200 the next segment. Okay, we're both going to the same 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.560 place with this. Wait, i'd not have to finish a 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.040 sentence no, No, you're not, because I know where you're 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.040 going with it, and I don't need to steal my thunder. Okay, 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.160 oh ty, I was gonna make a point before you could. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.240 Everybody listening knows where we're going with this. Okay, mm hmm. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.120 By the way, speaking of behind the scenes, I have 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.080 a very small dog here that I'm trying to keep 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.360 entertained while we are doing this episode. So far, so good. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.200 She's chewing on a box. But I'll keep you posting. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.240 They're both lady dogs. There are lady dogs. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:38.440 Yeah, okay, that's all okay, And news wise, they Mike 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.040 Houston also lost Mike Houstonie. He also lost to Charlotte 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.560 a couple weeks ago, correct, which was probably like very 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.240 close to the last straw. Let's see how you do 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.840 against Navy. Yeah, the Tavian Jackson news is a bummer. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.600 Just in terms of news, I mean not Tavin Jackson, 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.320 but that the injury Indiana is about Curtis Rourck. I 0:15:55.320 --> 0:16:00.440 hope Taven Jackson succeeds. I praise that completely inappropriately. David 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.400 Jackson came in to look pretty good against Nebraska in 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:03.040 the second half. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.320 We were calling him Raven Tavin last year. Yeah, for 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.440 a moment like two weeks and there was a stretch. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:14.200 Any other news to you right now? That is newsworthy. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.520 I want to get into my spill over thoughts place, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.920 place place I have. I have some good ones from 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:25.040 this past week. So we mentioned smu Dan smu Hammered 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.640 Hammered Stanford forty to ten. The sp plus our trusted 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:35.480 metric is projecting them to win their next five games 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:41.119 over Duke Pitt, Boston College, UVA, and Cal understandably. So 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.200 something that I trained in on when I was going 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.320 through and trying to build one of my spreadsheet specials 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.640 was this switch at quarterback to Kevin Jennings. Caught a 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.600 lot of us by surprise because Preston Stone was pretty 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.840 good last year and in the early part of the season. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.920 Obviously they had that eighteen to fifteen loss against Boy 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.880 You that raised some myebrows. This is before we knew 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.240 what BYU was going to become a that lost his 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.480 age pretty well, to be honest, Yeah, but notably on 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.320 the Kevin Jennings front. Right now, PFF has him ranked 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.439 as the tenth best passer in the Power for And 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.800 there are two really interesting trends in his game that 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.320 I noticed and that I want people to watch out 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.240 for moving forward. So it's it's a little bit of 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.040 a spillover thought from the weekend and from the Stanford game, 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.560 But I think broadly speaking, it's just it's a trend 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.040 to watch as SMU rounds the bend and gets into 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:33.680 some of these games. Here the rest of the way, 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:41.480 his completion percentage when you blitz him is seventy nine percent. Wow, Okay, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.280 it is higher when you blitz him than when you don't. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.040 When you don't blitz him, his completion percentage is sixty percent. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.280 When you do, it's seventy nine. Loves his hot routes. Yeah, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.199 when you do get the pressure on him, the completion 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.520 percentage comes way down, like fifty percent. And so I 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.239 think the long and short of it with SMU is 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:05.080 who can get the pressure without blitzing. And if you're 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.080 looking at this in terms of the teams that remain 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.480 on that schedule, if you know a little bit about 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.320 defensive lines, you know a little bit about how some 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.160 of these teams play, it's not that difficult to calculation 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.720 to figure out who can and can't do that. Guy's 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.920 a mobile quarterback. Most of his rushing guards come on scrambles, 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.680 not designed runs. The game plan has to be getting 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.480 the pressure without blitzing, keeping him in the pocket, keeping 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.400 him in a spot where you're not bringing his legs 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.160 into the equation. So I don't know if you're playing 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.800 contains with your ends or what you're doing, but something 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.280 to kind of keep him bottled up, prevent him from 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.000 breaking outside the pocket, and then all of a sudden 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.360 you got your receivers doing scramble drills. I think that's 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.640 where SMU right now is finding a lot of success. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.879 And you know, Duke Pitt, Boston College, UVA and Cal 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.119 maybe Cal maybe Pitt, maybe Duke, Like we could debate 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.800 the merits of who can and can't do that, but 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.720 I think that's probably the game plan, at least defensively 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.240 when you're playing against a team like an I enjoy that. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.120 How many weeks into the season are we were pre 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:04.720 week nine? 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.320 Yeah, your hot tip for the rest of SMU's schedule 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.720 is have a killer defensive line who can get pressure 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.440 without help. That's the big the big time tie strategy. 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.520 Well, it's okay, it's not a big time strategy. It's like, 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:19.680 here's here's my strategy. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.240 Have a Heisman caliber quarterback and two bullet and a 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.800 coff Receaver's a case in point. 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.480 Pressure without blitzing gas. Of course, here's a case in point. 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:29.800 Why bring this up? It wasn't all that long ago. 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.639 On one of these Tuesday shows, I talked about the 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:37.160 value of Louisville. This is early season. Yeah, early season 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.439 Louisville being able to get pressure without blitzing. And I 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.240 talked specifically about the game against Miami and how if 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:44.840 they could do that against a guy like a cam 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.160 Ward that would give them more success. Now, they didn't 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.480 really have that success, especially in the first half. They 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.960 didn't do anything to get any pressure on him. In 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.440 the first half, they didn't even try to blitz and 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.560 as such, cam Ward's sort of went wild. Second half, 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.520 they started dialing up pressure. That's when the game got 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.880 kind of wild. So this is of course not any 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.359 foreign schematic advantage or anything, but I'm just saying this 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.960 is what the numbers are showing. With Kevin Jennings. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.560 You can do more interesting things with four than just 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.000 right send them straight at a quarterback, like you can 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.720 do your stunts and twists and drop into zone blitzes 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.680 and stuff, and you know, simulated pressure. There's all sorts 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.800 of things you can do. But yeah, easier said than done. 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.520 Because look, the connection between Kevin Jennings and I think 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.159