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Speaker 1: at number twelve, it's BYU at number eleven, It's Indiana

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Speaker 2: Who else received votes? Do you have that in front

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Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: point crazy well, but ye, to your point, I know

429
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Speaker 1: you're starting to buy in on Virginia Tech, and I

430
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Speaker 1: needed to go and look at the numbers to see

431
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Speaker 1: if I was there too. Okay, there has been a

432
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Speaker 1: trend emerging over the last three games. In each of

433
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Speaker 1: their last three games, they have outperformed their projections. By

434
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Speaker 1: about fifteen points. That includes the Miami game back in

435
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Speaker 1: Week five, That includes every game since. What we have

436
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Speaker 1: yet to see is both the offense and the defense

437
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: both overperforming in the same game. But it seems like

438
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Speaker 1: when you've got a team that very clearly is building

439
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: some momentum, Dan, the writing is on the wall. Yeah,

440
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: I mean you don't want to peek in early September.

441
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 1: I think the writing is on the wall. I think

442
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: it's going to start happening soon. I'm back. I am

443
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: back in on the tech train. Is there room on

444
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Speaker 1: the tech train for me? Yeah?

445
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's room on what the Brent Priy

446
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: massive hog, caboose whatever, that's what it's called. That's such

447
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 2: like a specific reference that we at one point did

448
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: a show in which we reacted to messageboard geniuses and

449
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 2: somebody said, you can just tell Brent Priby as a

450
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 2: massive hog. That's the way he carries himself, right, And

451
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: we had to react to that. There are always gonna

452
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: be there are these teams in every conference, and we

453
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: can go through them. When we went through a little

454
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Speaker 2: bit with the Lurkers or the Growers or whatever, that

455
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: Virginia attack, You're right, if they can put it all together.

456
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Speaker 2: I think it was the second quarter against Miami, yep,

457
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Speaker 2: if they could be a little bit less streaky and

458
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Speaker 2: just a little bit more decent all the time. I

459
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Speaker 2: don't know who's on the back half of their schedule,

460
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Speaker 2: but I suspect it's workable given your enthusiastic.

461
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Speaker 1: Consistency is key. Consistency is key. All right, let's talk

462
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Speaker 1: about that Utah theory. Now. Okay, so Utah lost thirteen

463
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Speaker 1: to seven. It was the late night game on Saturday

464
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Speaker 1: that we didn't get a chance to discuss. First off,

465
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Speaker 1: it was a big win for TCU, gets them to

466
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Speaker 1: four and three. It looks like they should be slightly

467
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Speaker 1: favored and like four their next five maybe have a

468
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Speaker 1: shot at eight, four, nine and three. That seemed impossible

469
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Speaker 1: to me personally when we did our preseason stuff because

470
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Speaker 1: I was just in on the under seven and a

471
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Speaker 1: half of this team. I was convinced. But right now,

472
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like this is some sort of juggernaut.

473
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Speaker 1: But four and three, the schedule in front of them

474
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Speaker 1: is workable after going three and three the first six

475
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Right now, TCU, if you're a

476
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Speaker 1: TCU fan, I think you gotta like the direction that

477
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: they're headed and this is a big win. Yeah, I

478
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Speaker 1: think so. I think so. I mean there are still

479
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Speaker 1: real questions, don't get me wrong, but you know, beating

480
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Speaker 1: Utah that was not really one that we had planned

481
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Speaker 1: for before the season. So I think I think you

482
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Speaker 1: feel like you got one here that you can use

483
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Speaker 1: and you know, propel you into a bowl.

484
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Speaker 2: If you think the story there is TCU's defense has

485
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Speaker 2: finally woken up and they performed super well against a

486
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Speaker 2: good Utah offense. Sure, I think the story here is

487
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Speaker 2: Utah's collapse. Utah's collapse. So this profile as a game

488
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Speaker 2: that Utah should have run wild in literally run wild, Yes,

489
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Speaker 2: and instead they finished with sixty eight yards on the ground.

490
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Speaker 1: Utahs now four and three. There's a good chance they're

491
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Speaker 1: a dog in four of their next five. At this point,

492
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Speaker 1: there is zero shot of them hitting their over nine

493
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Speaker 1: and a half, which I think we were both in on. Yeah.

494
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Speaker 1: I think they'll make a bold dan. That's not a

495
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Speaker 1: given though, And I think this is building to Kyle

496
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Speaker 1: Whittingham's last year. I think so too, because he named

497
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Speaker 1: Morgan Scalley as the head coach in waiting. That was

498
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Speaker 1: something of a story before the season kicked off. It

499
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: just feels like the momentum is there for a coaching change,

500
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Speaker 1: that after all of these preseason expectations, the letdown of

501
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Speaker 1: cam Riisen getting hurt again, it feels like Utah may

502
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Speaker 1: be ready to turn the page of sorts. Kyle winnie

503
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Speaker 1: Hand's been a great coach at Utah, don't get me wrong,

504
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: It just seems like now would be the time to

505
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Speaker 1: kind of get a fresh start with somebody else in charge,

506
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Speaker 1: even though he's been there forever. I am I wrong

507
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: with that? Is that where you were going with it too?

508
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: That's exactly where I was going with it that. It

509
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: just seems that, like, I don't know if it's Morgan Scalley,

510
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm fully speculating irresponsibly, but with how recruiting has gone recently,

511
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: with the on field stuff with Andy Ludwig, you know,

512
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Speaker 2: stepping down, it just has the the air of like, yeah,

513
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Speaker 2: Morgan Scalley is gonna be taking on more responsibilities now,

514
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Speaker 2: and like this show might, this particular segment might be

515
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Speaker 2: out of date by the time this show is even released,

516
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Speaker 2: Like the vibes are pointing in that specific direction.

517
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's.

518
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Speaker 2: That's the vibe I get from how things are going

519
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. That utah right now, my.

520
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Speaker 1: Only other spill overthought and then I'll kick it over

521
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Speaker 1: to you in I want to circle back to LSU

522
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: for a second. Oh yeah, rewatched that this morning. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: you know, we kind of panned LSU's overtime win against

524
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Speaker 1: Ole Miss two weeks ago, I think because so much

525
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 1: else happened that week and got an email about that.

526
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Speaker 1: Wanted to make sure that I gave LSU it's due.

527
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Speaker 1: And this is a spot in which we looked. We

528
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Speaker 1: saw LSU's on the road at Arkansas in a game

529
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: that's historically kind of weird, and it's a week before

530
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: they were squaring off against Texas A and M and

531
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Speaker 1: Kyle Field. Yes, it's kind of getting to the point

532
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: where you shouldn't just pan this LSU defense. When you

533
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: say pan, what do you mean, hand wave it? You

534
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: know what happened last year? You know what happened last year?

535
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: They stunk. They were historically bad. Yes, and there have

536
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Speaker 1: been moments this season, for sure where we've seen that

537
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: version of it, but I have seen real strides. For one,

538
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: the tackling is way better, way better tackle success rate

539
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: a measure of this last year hovering around fiftieth in

540
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Speaker 1: the nation. Right now, it's fourth best in the nation,

541
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: right and that's without Harold Perkins. To without Harry Perky. Yeah,

542
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: they're creating those havoc plays again. Last year finished in

543
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: the sixty to seventy range nationally. So we're talking tackles

544
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: for loss, pass breakups, interceptions, fumble recovery, things like that.

545
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: So far tenth this season again doing it without Harold Perkins.

546
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Speaker 1: So whatever they are doing, whatever they played, whatever, they

547
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: paid Blake Baker to come in there and try a

548
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: lot of money, paid him a lot of potatoes to

549
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: come over and try to fix this thing. It may

550
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: have taken a little bit initially, but LSU defensively is

551
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: looking much much better. And this is another team that

552
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: we had in that lurker category last episode. Tough One

553
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: this weekend at A and M. But let's look at

554
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: their November there's a good chance going four to oh

555
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: against Bama, it could beat Bama, Florida, Vanderbilt, and Oklahoma.

556
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Those are four games in November with the trajectory of

557
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: LSU right now, and you look at where those other

558
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: teams are at I'm not saying it's easy. Nothing in

559
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: the SEC is, but in light of losing two coordinators

560
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: and Jaydon Daniels and dealing with the whole defense thing,

561
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Speaker 1: if they go eleven and one here, if they go

562
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Speaker 1: ten and two, that's like, that's a coup. That is

563
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: a coup in my book, if they're able to put

564
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Speaker 1: in this kind of season given some of the questions

565
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Speaker 1: they had coming into it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a couple thoughts. One, LSU lost Week one to

567
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Speaker 2: USC in a crazy tight game.

568
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Speaker 1: Week one.

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Speaker 2: As I've said all season long, I'm always willing to

570
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Speaker 2: extend grace for Week one results. That was a wild game.

571
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Ls was not fully formed. They've gotten better over the

572
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Speaker 2: course of the season.

573
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Speaker 1: Two.

574
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Speaker 2: Garrett Nussmeier, I would imagine there is a certain quality

575
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Speaker 2: of LSU fans that, as much as they've enjoyed this

576
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: season thus far, that dude throws off his back foot

577
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: a ton, that dude feels pressure and says, all right, scool,

578
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: let's see what's going to happen, and.

579
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Speaker 1: Say let's just throw it up. Let's and you know what,

580
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: when you've got receivers that are good, a lot of

581
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Speaker 1: times get away with it. I agree, it works better

582
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: when you've got Kyrien Lacy than it does this you've got,

583
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, most of the other receivers in college football.

584
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Speaker 1: But I take your point and it's not invalid.

585
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Speaker 2: He's not always a feel the pressure on the edge,

586
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: step into the pocket and throw it over the middle

587
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: and be decisive about his footwork and his progressions college.

588
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. He'll get there hopefully, but just

589
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: in terms of what he does when he feels things

590
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: breaking down there, there are some risky decisions that he

591
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: is still prone to making, and that's okay. And the

592
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: emergence of Caden Durham hopefully will help keep sort of

593
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: defenses on their heels kind of thing, because I thought

594
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Speaker 2: he was very good against Arkansas. I don't know if

595
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: he went for one hundred yards but burned out some

596
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 2: tough yards. The other thing was I still worry a

597
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: little bit about LSU because you're right about the defense.

598
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: The defense has improve. They're getting a ton of pressure.

599
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Brayden Swinson like, I'm not crazy about their linebackers right now,

600
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: but if you're generating pressure, you know, it's a way

601
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: to cover up for some defensive deficiencies. There is something

602
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: about the drive finishing in this moment. I don't know

603
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: if it's a play calling thing. I don't know if

604
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: it's an execution thing.

605
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Speaker 1: They had.

606
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Speaker 2: If memories are two touchdown drives against Arkansas, they kicked

607
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of field goals. They had, like the three

608
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: yard short field touchdown after an incredible interception. I'm not

609
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: saying only having two touchdown drives is bad. If you

610
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: can generate points elsewhere, it's a plus on LSU overall.

611
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: It's a question on LSU's offense in this moment that

612
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: if we're going to start saying, here's who they have left,

613
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: this is their record right now, we'll see what happens.

614
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: It's pretty workable. There is something about LSU. Now, if

615
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: the big things seem to be operating, let's look the

616
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: little things and a little the casual nature of Garrett

617
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: and Usmyer under pressure and their ability to finish drives

618
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: right now. Look, they did it at Arkansas, they uncomfortably.

619
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Speaker 2: They checked every box for me as a quality team.

620
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you're gonna nitpick, that's where I

621
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: might look the little things. Not finishing out drives and

622
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: emphatically sending messages. But they'll get there. It's a new team.

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Speaker 1: It's a new team. What else do you got from weekate?

624
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so I watched the Colorado Arizona game in its entirety.

625
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of Big twelve that I didn't

626
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: fully watch on Saturday. Colorado's defense is pretty interesting to me.

627
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Sam Oakinlola bj Green like they're getting after the quarterback

628
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: in impressive ways and they're still dealing with a beat

629
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Speaker 2: up Travis Hunter, who only played part of the game

630
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Speaker 2: against Arizona.

631
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

632
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: I like their corners more than I thought I would

633
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: against Arizona because that's a measuring stick game in terms

634
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: of a passing attack. How can they handle Noah Fafida

635
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: and t mac and some of the guys there. I

636
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: thought they handled themselves really nicely on defense. The defense

637
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: looks ahead of the offense to me, and I like

638
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: that they leaned on the run a little bit when

639
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: they had that lead. Dalan Hayden had a couple nice runs.

640
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm still not a huge fan of this offensive line.

641
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: But in terms of Shador as a playmaker, one of

642
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: his pay he had two picks, one of them was late.

643
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Speaker 5: In the game.

644
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Speaker 2: It was a tipped ball and it was bad low

645
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: throw from him, but it wasn't a consequential interception.

646
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Speaker 1: I think Colorado's pretty good and you've come around. Man,

647
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: You've come around on him. I've come around.

648
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to say like I was super

649
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: low on Colorado, and I'm going to stick with that

650
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: feeling as they as I watched their games all season long,

651
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: I was a low.

652
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't high.

653
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: It was just sort of neutral and not super bought

654
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: in on them dramatically improving. But this Big Twelve, and

655
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: again this is not a knock on Colorado's performance this year.

656
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot of drek. There's a lot of garbage

657
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: in this Big Twelve this year, maybe not as a

658
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: full team, but a garbage offense, garbage defense, a garbage quarterback,

659
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: and Colorado is doing what a pretty good team should do,

660
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: which is take advantage. Arizona is a mess. By the way,

661
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: Arizona is a mess. They're beat up on defense. Offensively,

662
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: No Fafita is constantly running and trying too hard to

663
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: make plays that are ending in poor decisions.

664
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Speaker 1: It's I mean, you.

665
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Brought up the buyout stuff. I'm not willing to pour

666
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: dirt on the Brent Brennan era. I didn't like his

667
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: HighRes before in Duyna Quina and Dino Babers as coordinators,

668
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: and they've already made a change in terms of play

669
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: calling on offense at least a couple times. He better

670
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: be recruiting. I have not looked on Arizona's recruiting, but

671
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: this was the year for Arizona. There were opportunities on

672
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Speaker 2: this schedule, and Arizona.

673
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: Is a mess.

674
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: They are thin pretty much everywhere in terms of quality depth,

675
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Speaker 2: And it is you mentioned to me, like, who are

676
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: you ready to just give up on Arizona's making it

677
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: pretty easy right now?

678
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Speaker 1: One final point on the Colorado stuff, then I want

679
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: to get the remainder of your thoughts here. We do

680
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: still have our verball or segment and some other stuff

681
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: here to get through. Colorado improved both offensively and defensively

682
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: and dramatically, so not as dramatically on offense because they

683
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: had a pretty good offense all things considered. Last year.

684
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: It was mostly built around the pass and shadoor. But

685
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the sp plus, which is not gospel

686
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: but something that I like to use forty eighth last

687
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: year at the end of the year. Offensively, now up

688
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: to twenty ninth, so a top thirty offense is pretty good.

689
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: And defensively, this is where we've really seen the Strides.

690
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: The final year of Carl Durrell. They were one hundred

691
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: and twenty eighth nationally last year. They only moved up

692
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: fifteen spots to one hundred and thirteenth this year, all

693
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: the way up to fifty sixth. This will change. We're

694
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: only about halfway or so ish through the season, but

695
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: given what we've seen, it seems like there's real steam

696
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: on that defensive side of the ball and more people

697
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: or taking notice that, yes, this is in fact a

698
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: much improved defense. It's not gonna shut you down. You're

699
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: going to score points on Colorado. But to the extent

700
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Speaker 1: that the Big twelve is still sort of in a

701
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: blender and still sort of has a lot of weakness

702
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: across the board. Yeah, I don't know Colorado's remaining schedule

703
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: For those playing the home game, Cincinnati, Texas Tech a

704
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: very flawed Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State yet to win

705
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: a Big twelve game, yes, almostate yet to win a

706
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: Big twelve game. The projected margin right now in all

707
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: five of those games is five points or fewer. In fact,

708
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: most of them are less than a field goal. So

709
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: it's just there. It's there for Colorado. They're projecting to

710
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: be in some close games here, but by this measure,

711
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: winning four out of five, you're Colorado, you win four

712
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: out of your next five, you finish the season with

713
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: nine wins. That's a pretty good season. That's a pretty

714
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: good campaign for Dion.

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00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: These are decidedly half teams by the way that they're playing.

716
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, he has a ton of opportunity.

717
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 1: In terms of.

718
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: Cincinnati, I think is quality and they've been pretty consistent.

719
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: They haven't played a ton of good teams. Texas Tech

720
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: defense is willing to fall apart at any moment. They

721
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: are on call to fall apart the Texas Tech defense.

722
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: You mentioned Utah's offense falling apart. Kansas is a nice

723
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: one against Houston, but you're talking about two basement dwellers

724
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: right now in the Big Twelve going at it. We'll

725
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: see if Jalen Daniels has turned a corner. That becomes

726
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 2: more interesting if true, because he did have a really

727
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: nice game and Oklahoma State's a mess on defense this year. Yeah,

728
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: and so no, there's a lot of opportunity there for Colorado.

729
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: I have two lane down once again. The lost Oklahoma

730
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 2: isn't great. They should have beaten Kansas State, which I

731
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: don't know if you can say like a should have

732
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: beaten Kansas State. Moment has aged nicely, I guess. But

733
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Speaker 2: for twu Lane, who has North Texas on the road,

734
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: which will be challenging to hold down that offense. They

735
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: finish at Navy and then a bye week before Memphis.

736
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: Tulane is either deciding the American excuse me for somebody

737
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: else or for themselves at the end of this season.

738
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: They're real interesting. They look pretty complete, they're well coached,

739
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: and they look beautiful.

740
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: In those uniforms. Yeah yeah, oh I love those uniforms.

741
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: So Tulane's they're lurking their quality. I'm paying you know,

742
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough to get that that that G

743
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: five spot with two losses, but I mean it's Kansas

744
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: State and Oklahoma.

745
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: They're a quality team. I like Tulane a lot. I'm

746
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna talk about that Boise UNLV game a

747
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: little bit later on because that has real significance with

748
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: respect to that G five playoff spot, and that game's

749
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: on late Friday night, you know, if you're if you're

750
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: young enough, stay up to watch the whole thing. Uh

751
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: late kick, but definitely has I think some real significance

752
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: with respect to not just that G five playoff spot,

753
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: but also two lane role in that conversation, Yes, what

754
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: else do you got? The Boise thing is interesting, We're

755
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: going to get there. They've just taken care.

756
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: Of business in a way that I love to see.

757
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: And they had a bye week this past week before UNLV. Correct,

758
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: but I went back and watched a little more Boise.

759
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't love their passing game, but if they continue

760
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: to play defense and run the ball, I don't know man.

761
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: Continue to play defense for the first time, Yes, that's

762
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: the problem I have with them.

763
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: Well, the defensive numbers aren't great because of that first

764
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: game against Georgia Southern and the game against Oregon, but

765
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: I don't think that fully characterizes their season. I'm willing

766
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: to extend grace on Boise. When I was looking at

767
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: some updated numbers, they're a couple of outliers within like

768
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: the top fifteen or twenty. Do you know who has

769
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: by far the worst defense in that like top fifteen

770
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: to twenty range.

771
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: You're talking about spot for Bowl or top top twelve.

772
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Poll anybody, I'm looking at the net points per drive.

773
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking at analytics here, but like these are all

774
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: relatively the same teams. We're talking about Texas Miami. Miami

775
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: has by far the worst defense. They are around I

776
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: think sixty ninth or seventieth in points per drive allout.

777
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: And you look at the Virginia Tech game, you look

778
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: at the col game, now you look at the Louisville game,

779
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: and that would be a concern point to me right now.

780
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: Kansas State's defense needs to improve, but I think they've

781
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: gotten better. My other point about Kansas State, by the way,

782
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: is in rewatching or really watching in full for the

783
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: first time that West Virginia game, it looked like practice.

784
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: Kansas State looked like they just came off of the

785
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: practice field. And Chris Climban's talking to Beat reporters and say,

786
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 2: I thought we were really crisp out there. I thought

787
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: it was a really nice Wednesday practice. We're really like

788
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: firing on all cylinders. I'm excited for the weekend and

789
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: for the season that we have to come. West Virginia

790
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: did not offer much, and.

791
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Speaker 1: That surprised me. It surprised me, you know, I it's

792
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: not surprising that k State would win. They were favored.

793
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Garreck Green went down, didn't come play in

794
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: the first in the second half, excason.

795
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not surprising that case State would win

796
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: that game. I do think on the whole, they're a

797
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: better team. I am surprised by how easy it felt.

798
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that, truly, because Kyse State, especially in

799
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: the road, especially with Avery Johnson, who I think generally

800
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: we like Avery Johnson a lot, but he's had his

801
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: moments of inconsistency this year. To go on the road

802
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: at night in Morgantown and to basically just throttle West

803
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: Virginia and the manner that they did, that's it should

804
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: open some eyes, right. And it wasn't just that, I

805
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: mean they did they held West Virginia town. It was

806
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: a domination of both sides of the ball.

807
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever played a like a

808
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: six year old in one on one basketball tie the best.

809
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: It's the only time I feel good about my basketball game.

810
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: You're palming the ball over their head and you're hitting

811
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: fadal way to Avery Johnson, it was as if in

812
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: a in an offensive meeting leading up to the game,

813
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: a QB coach, a coordinator, somebody you you know when

814
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: you look at the bottom of a website and there's

815
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: those weird paid ads like doctor say this one trick,

816
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Kelly Fly. It was as if a coordinator said, Avery,

817
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: I've got this one trick that's going to make life

818
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: so much easier for you. He looked so calm in

819
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: the pocket. He didn't take off prematurely in the way

820
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: that he had early on in the season. He looked

821
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: out at that West Virginia defense and had his own

822
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: offensive line smothering the West Virginia front, but was going

823
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: through progressions that again, it's West Virginia. I don't know

824
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: what this means for the rest of their schedule. I

825
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: don't know what this means if they end up in

826
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: a Big twelve championship game against Iowa State or something. Well,

827
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: to play Iowa State and Farmageddon, but I don't know.

828
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: It looked like a man reborn. Okay, what else do

829
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: we got any other?

830
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Speaker 1: Any other trailing thoughts here before we get into our

831
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: overballer segment. I don't think so. I think we're good,

832
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: all right. So we kind of have this thing on

833
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: our show. It started years ago. It actually ended up

834
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: on college game Day. It was in the midst of

835
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: an Iowa season where they weren't playing offense. Nothing new there,

836
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: but in the middle of that season we started a

837
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: little line that we said, well, we got to talk

838
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: to our kids about Iowa. We thought I was going

839
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: to go and defet it. Yeah, caught on College football

840
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: World took notice. As per usual, we ended up being trendsetters.

841
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Your favorite podcast, favorite podcast. That's right, that's right. We

842
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: have the talking to your kids about dot dot dot

843
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: question comment line that comes in via email every year,

844
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: and now it has come into us from Kyle out

845
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: at verballers dot com. He says, which college football things

846
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: need to be taken seriously and explain to our children

847
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: who may or may not comprehend the gravity Dan. My

848
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: question is which teams are we talking to our kids at.

849
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll ask you a bunch of questions. I want to

850
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: have them answered immediately immediately. Who needs to be taken

851
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: more seriously? Who do we need to talk to our

852
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: children about?

853
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 4: Dan?

854
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's sort of dovetails with what we were

855
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: just talking about. Like, I think Tulane needs to be

856
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: taken more seriously. I think SMU needs to be taken

857
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they haven't lost in the a sec but

858
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: still they're sort of an afterthought in this moment because

859
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: it's a Clemson Miami race. I mean, in sort of

860
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: mainstream thought, I would say, who needs to be taken

861
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: more seriously? Colorado once again, ASU with a healthy Sam

862
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: levitt is a team that I would take seriously.

863
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: Can I be honest with you about something here? Yeah,

864
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a whole lot of ASU this year. Okay,

865
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, we've been kind of wrapped up in whatever

866
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: we do, and sometimes it's easy to miss teams, teams

867
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: to fall through the cracks. But yeah, I watched that

868
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: last game that Sam levit Pley didn't play the last

869
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: game because he was hurt, didn't play against Cincinnati, but

870
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: the one before that, I forget against which team I

871
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: was really impressed. I was really genuinely impressed by how

872
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: good he looked, He seemed to have command, he was accurate,

873
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: he was tough to get in his face and pressure.

874
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: I mean Kenny Dillingham, his pedigree is as an offensive

875
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: mind is as a child of Tempe Arizona. So clearly

876
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: with everyone out in the field a couple weeks ago,

877
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: you could see Kenny d was feeling it. But it

878
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: felt to me like with Sam Levitt in there, they

879
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: have a chance of beating you, and there was a

880
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: little bit of spark there. There was spark last year

881
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: they didn't have the personnel, but there was definitely spark

882
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: this year, I think with a little bit better quarterback play.

883
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about Wisconsin in terms

884
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: of tell your kids about. I'm trying to find that

885
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: big ten team that is being overlooked in this moment.

886
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: Wisconsin is both Penn State and Oregon in Madison. Yes,

887
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if Wisconsin is actually good or is decent.

888
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: Situationally, Okay, so what am I telling my kids about Wisconsin?

889
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: Don't count them out?

890
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: I guess that's as like dramatic as I can be

891
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: about Wisconsin in this moment. Otherwise, who we should be

892
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: taking seriously Vanderbilt.

893
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking Vanderbilt seriously. You know I am already. I

894
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: know I'm trying to avoid the obvious ones like Indiana

895
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: and Yu and I will state like they're all ranked,

896
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: they're borderline top ten teams if they're already not in it.

897
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: But you know, Vandy just cracked the top twenty five

898
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: five and two. They need one win to get Bowl

899
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: eligible against what right now projects as the sixth toughest

900
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: schedule in America. Yeah, they do project as underdogs in

901
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: their next five games, but I do not see them

902
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: going on five, Dan, I don't think the improvements of Fluke.

903
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: Eighth most improved offense in terms of points per drive

904
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: in the Power For twenty fifth most improved defense by

905
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: that metric in the Power For. This is a team

906
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: that has definitely seen something of a transformation in the

907
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: off season. It's not all just Diego Pavia. They are

908
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: better across the board. They're obviously taking teams to the gun.

909
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: They knocked off Alabama, So I'm just feeling like Vandy's

910
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: a tough out. I don't know what their final record

911
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be. They could be one of these teams

912
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: that gets into a bowl game with a six and

913
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: six mark, and you're you got to pick them because

914
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: you know that the schedule made them six and six.

915
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a team that was foundering, right, Vandy

916
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: need to take Vandy seriously. The other one I have

917
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: here per your analytics, by the way, of course, is Army. Yes,

918
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: you can speak a little bit more to the context

919
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: of your net points per drive improvement stat that you

920
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: keep track of and how you calculate that and what

921
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: that means. I don't want people's eyes and ears to

922
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: glaze over talking about this, Okay, I am guilty of

923
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: that more than a few times. But fair enough, Army

924
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: is like four and a half points better per than

925
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: they were a year ago. And that's including both offense

926
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: and defense.

927
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: Right, So the offensive points scored per drive minus the

928
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: defense points allowed per drive.

929
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I mean, you've been doing this a

930
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: while now, the points per drive thing, that's kind of

931
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: been your stat. Yeah, minus their yards. But yours is

932
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: always points per drive relative to others.

933
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: I know.

934
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot. Four point five to four,

935
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: I believe is the number in improvement that feels astronomically

936
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: larger than most of the other ones I have seen.

937
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. Now here's the added context, Hie, they've

938
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: played the worst schedule in America. Well, their strength of

939
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: schedule is sitting at one hundred and thirty third right now,

940
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: they're yet to play a team with either an offense

941
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: or a defense. Yeah, the last team they played Army

942
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: just fired their coach. They're playing one of the most

943
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: disappointing teams in search of the Commander in Chief trophy

944
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: and Air Force after a buye. They have a North

945
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: Texas team that doesn't play defense. They've got a very

946
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 2: good maybe Notre Dame team, a UTSA team that fell off,

947
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: and a resurgent Navy. So I have no idea how

948
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: seriously or not seriously to take Army. But if they're

949
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: a good team, they've performed like a good team should

950
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: have against this schedule thus far, so I have I'm

951
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: fully selling on not selling on or selling on Army.

952
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm fully selling on having an opinion about Army other

953
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: than winning is so much better. Okay, More interestingly, who

954
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: are you not telling you? Who are you not taking seriously?

955
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: Who are you telling your kids like you can go

956
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: to sleep? They're not winning me.

957
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm still not really taking Illinois seriously. I know they're

958
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: a top I'm not taking them seriously the top whatever team,

959
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: top twenty caliber team. They're one to me that I'm

960
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: not fully in on. I still struggle with the BYU thing.

961
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: I know, I really do, and it's I'm running out

962
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: reasons why because they have been a or Jake rehtz

963
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: laugh has been pretty good, He's gotten better both as

964
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: a passer and a runner. This team just feels like

965
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: they're unkillable, and those are the teams generally that I

966
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: gravitate towards. So personally, if I can just kind of

967
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: have a moment of self reflection, hm, I think it's

968
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: one of those deals where I kind of hated them

969
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: in the preseason and it has taken me a long time.

970
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: Now we're eight weeks into this deal. Yeah, it has

971
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: taken me a long time to start having this conversation

972
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: with myself about you were wrong, dog, you were really

973
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: wrong about I think team.

974
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: You know, I think you're right and wrong. Like, I

975
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: just think you should view the BYU thing through the

976
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: lens of let's not think about what they can be,

977
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: let's appreciate.

978
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: What they are. That's fair. I've been that's fair, and

979
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: I probably need to come around to that.

980
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: But I understand when you're undefeated in a power conference,

981
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: you start thinking about a team as a potential conference

982
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: champion at this point, and maybe you're not taking them

983
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: seriously in that regard, but I think you can accept

984
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: their success for what it is.

985
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm not taking into Miszoo seriously in their mind. I

986
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: don't think this is any kind of surprising revelation at

987
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: this point. The win that they had against Auburn was gutsy.

988
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: That was a gutsy win to come from behind and

989
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: win in the manner that they did. Brady Cook kind

990
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: of coming literally coming back from the hospital after having

991
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: an MRI to go out there and win the game.

992
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: That all that stuff is good. Yes, the reason I

993
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: am not buying is because the big plays just are

994
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: not there. There aren't there are not there. They have

995
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: not been able to create big plays. And like I

996
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 1: said a few months ago, months a few weeks ago,

997
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna need to do a full like sixty minutes report.

998
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need the athletic in on this. Give me

999
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: ten thousand words in the offseason about how you have

1000
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: Luther Burden on the team and you can't generate big plays. Yeah, right,

1001
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: You're gonna need those. They are predictive of success and

1002
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: they have not had any of those So for as

1003
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: long as Missou remains this team on offense not being

1004
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: able to generate any of that explosion, I just I

1005
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: can't take them seriously against an SEC schedule. You know

1006
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: what am I betting on here? I'm betting on Fluke

1007
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: wins essentially like we saw this past week against Auburn.

1008
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: For all of these teams, I take seriously what they've

1009
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: done so far, but I don't take seriously what it

1010
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: means for the back. You know, four or five games

1011
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: Pitt Douke and Syracuse in the ACC.

1012
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not there.

1013
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: They've played a lot of down teams that they've snuck

1014
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: by in retrospect. Just I respect the wins. I appreciate

1015
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: the wins. The wins don't sway me in any sort

1016
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: of meaningful way. But I like that they're winning. I

1017
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: think that's a good thing. I am not a believer

1018
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: right now in Texas Tech with their record, No, no,

1019
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: I and look, I really want to be the butt

1020
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: game tie. I want to be a believer. Yeah, I'm

1021
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: not there. I'm not there with Texas Tech. I'm not

1022
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: there with Illinois. I am definitely not there after this

1023
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: weekend with Iowa in the way that they I'm not

1024
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: there with Michigan State in the opposite direction yet, but

1025
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: I like seeing it. I liked seeing something new and

1026
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: unexpected from Michigan State. Yeah, a novel performance is always

1027
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: welcome to my end in the SEC. You mentioned Miszoo,

1028
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm fully in on Texas A

1029
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 2: and M right now.

1030
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: That's interesting because I felt like you were a week ago.

1031
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: I was.

1032
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: I just another week where they are what one of

1033
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: two teams that are undefeated in the conference. I think

1034
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: they're good, but now we're talking about like winning the SEC.

1035
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't think Connor Wigman is an SEC winning quarterback,

1036
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I again, I appreciate what they've done.

1037
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a really nice story near one of

1038
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: Mike Elco. I mean, needless say, I'm not in on

1039
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: Bama right now. Yeah, are you a.

1040
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: Believer in Bama long term? This season?

1041
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 2: No, it's a real tough watch. Again, I'm extending grace

1042
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: to Kaylin de Boor in year one. It's an impossible job,

1043
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: it's an impossible ask. It's it's just it's all on

1044
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe. Yes, it's all in jail. Milroe I'm telling

1045
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: my children to watch South Carolina games.

1046
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: South Carolina is just a fun TV show watching Looney Tunes.

1047
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: It's great. It's just a good TV show and you

1048
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: never know what kind of madness you're going to see. Yeah,

1049
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I can't get there on Bama.

1050
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: I just can't not after what we've seen this season.

1051
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's one two weeks feeling like the offense

1052
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: isn't getting into gear. That's one thing. But yeah, this

1053
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: has been a trend, man. I mean it's been like

1054
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 1: four or five weeks now where we're saying the same thing.

1055
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: It's just at some point, you are who you're telling us,

1056
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: you are, right, I am. This is a big picture.

1057
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: If you're talking about telling your children something, I'm telling

1058
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 2: my children not to fall in love with any freshman

1059
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 2: for your team.

1060
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: Right. This is big twenty twenty four. This is bigger.

1061
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: Like I just bought my kid a show hey O

1062
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: Tani shirt, and I feel pretty great about that. In

1063
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: terms of long lasting stick around, stick aroundedness, stickuitiveness. Yeah,

1064
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 2: if you have a dream freshman, I don't care who

1065
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: you are, don't fall in love. Tell your kid that

1066
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: maybe there's another freshman all the way next year. No,

1067
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what about you anybody else that you're

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Speaker 2: not believing in, believing in?

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00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: What do you tell the kids about you stole my

1070
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: Syracuse pick. I was going to go there next okay,

1071
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: because we're going to talk about some of the week days.

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00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm into it. I'm into their success. I celebrate their success.

1073
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: But I don't look at somebody else's schedule and when

1074
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: I see Syracuse and Pitt think to myself, ooh, that's

1075
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: going to get real difficult.

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00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: Well, Syracuse and Pitt play. Let's get to that. By

1077
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: the way, if you've got any more that you want

1078
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: to add to our list, please how to reach out

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: social media, solid verbal at gmail dot com. We do

1080
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: have a few early bird specials this week. Early Bird

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00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Special Thursday at seven thirty on ESPN, It's Syracuse at

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00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: five and one, It's Pit at six and oh pit

1083
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: favor by five and a half points. This is a

1084
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: perfect segue into the Pit Syracuse conversation. Yeah, you set

1085
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: me up perfectly. I look at Syracuse for what it's worth.

1086
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Every defense at Syracuse play is the rest of the

1087
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: season is better than every defense they've played thus far. Yes,

1088
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: and yes. That also includes their game on November twenty

1089
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: third against the Yukon Fighting Huskies. So you're right. I

1090
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: want to root for the for animal. I still believe

1091
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: in the Syracuse project. I like watching the team, but

1092
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: their past defense is really bad. Yeah, really suspect, and

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00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: I think that's what holds them back. It would not

1094
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: surprise me if this game against Pitt ends up being

1095
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: a quasi shootout, because I have questions about Pitt as well.

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00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: I think both teams can score. I think it's a

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: fun Actually, I think there are a handful of fun games.

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00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: I think it's a great game May Thursday and Friday.

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00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: I'm going Pitt thirty eight thirty. I like pitting this spot.

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00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: They're at home.

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think I'm I said thirty

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00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: seven thirty four actually in my mind. So I don't

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00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: know what the spread will be a kickoff, but so

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00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: you would go, you would go Syracuse. Then I would

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00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: go points in a shootout.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame it. Yeah, I understand that the big

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00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: one here with real consequence, I think, is on Friday

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00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: at ten thirty CBS Sports Network, Boise at five and one,

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: favored by three on the road in Vegas against UNLV

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: coming into this game at six and one, So both

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00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: teams have that loss, but both were to non conference opponents.

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Speaker 1: Boise to your Oregon Ducks, UNLV to the aforementioned Syracuse Orange.

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: This is a monster matchup, man, yes, say big matchup

1114
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: in the Mountain West. Also, we're probably going to see

1115
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: a rematch of this game, so get ready for that.

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00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: These are the top two teams in the Mountain West

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00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: at present. Both of them are too clear in the

1118
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: lost column of the next best teams per the standings.

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00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if either team is taking a loss

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Speaker 1: after this game, right, and so that's why schedule was

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: amazing after this game amazing amazing. That's why I say

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00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: it looks to me like this is a rematch the

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: first of two. Yeah, I expect a lot of points.

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: So is Vegas sixty five and a half? Is your

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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: is your over under here? I'm going UNLV home dog

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00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: of the week? Play the wrong sound there? It is

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00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: the Yokos home dog of the week. Let's not get

1128
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: crazy and lock this up, all right. Okay, okay, okay,

1129
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: hit the wrong button there, But I think lost in

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00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: the Ashton jenty craze is the fact that the Boise

1131
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: defense is very suspect and so, yeah, it's been better,

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00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: it's been better. You're right to bring that up. Yeah

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00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: it's still kind of bad. Yeah, I think you and

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: LV is good for thirty seven, thirty eight, forty five

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00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: points on Boise. I can see this being one of

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: those deals where there's like a late touchdown, someone's got

1137
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: to go for two or they want to go for

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: two and get the win. UNLV outright, forty two, forty one.

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00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this high smat. I like UNLV as well,

1140
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: and they have your pet stat. I think their yards

1141
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: before contact. You gotta look at a team's rush defense

1142
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: right before they play ashion gent and it's nice. I

1143
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: think it's top fifteen or so. UNLV's it's not bad.

1144
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: I like Barry Odom's ability. We did see winning as

1145
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: a scale. They went to Oregon State last week in

1146
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: Corvallis and won that game. Thirty was seven or eight

1147
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: points they won that game. I'm going UNLV here. I'm

1148
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: going UNLV at home. Stadium's gonna be rocking. And I

1149
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: like the versatility of their offense a little bit more

1150
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: than I like Boyse's as.

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00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: Well, I might have to stay out for this ten

1152
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: thirty kick.

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00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait ten thirty. Yeah, you're going to stay up.

1154
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: You'll make it a Vegas has set the line. This

1155
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: is a UNLV game. If Time makes it to the

1156
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: midway point of the second quarter, it will be the

1157
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: upset of the week.

1158
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: Well, sixty five and a half see over under sixty

1159
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: five and a half minutes is probably a good over

1160
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: under for how long I make it.

1161
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: And I like that ten thirty kicks, so making it

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00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: to eleven thirty five.

1163
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: And then the other game on Friday at eleven on Fox,

1164
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: it's Rutgers traveling to USC. USC favored by fourteen points.

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: There's a big time vibe check game right here. Sure

1166
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: you know USC and Rutgers both coming in with three

1167
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: straight losses. On the Rutgers side, two of them were blowouts,

1168
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: and one of them was against UCLA, which is almost worse. Yeah,

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: I kind of think they get annihilated by USC here.

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01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: That's my instinct, that's my gun. I kind of think

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01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: they get annihilated because USC may not have a great defense, right,

1172
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: but it is better. And I am not of the

1173
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: mind here that Rutgers is going to come in and

1174
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: consistently put together long clock killing drives. Sure, I think

1175
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: that's their only shot to keep this one close. They're

1176
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: not going to win a shootout if they get into

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01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: one with USC. They just don't have the offense. I

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01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: thirty seven seventeen USC. I think they win handily in

1179
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: this game.

1180
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: I saw somebody tweet out or on Instagram somewhere said,

1181
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, you can take your Dodgers Yankees. The clear

1182
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: tri State Area Southern California matchup of the weekend, Rutgers

1183
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: traveling to whatever three and four USC. It's a If

1184
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: USC loses this game at home, USC fans should just

1185
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: pay attention to the Lakers, pay attention to the Dodgers.

1186
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: They're in the World Series. Yeah yeah, yeah, and just

1187
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: abandon the season. You should not pay attention to USC.

1188
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: If they lose this game at home to Rutgers, this

1189
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: would be a waste of your time. You deserve better.

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: This would be a horrible loss. And you know what,

1191
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: Rutgers isn't necessarily a horrible team, but this is a

1192
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: game they should win. Yes, Okay, I got a dog

1193
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: bark in here. I apologize. Okay, Oh it's okay. We

1194
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: have some other big ones this week. Once we get

1195
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: to the weekend. We got the Notre Dame Navy game,

1196
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: a line that's come down already. By the way. We've

1197
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: got Washington versus Indiana. We will talk more about the

1198
01:01:59,200 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: Curtis rourkean.

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01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: By the way, vir check looks your vibe check. Now

1200
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: you mentioned vibe check usc rutgers the vibecheck Navy Notre Dame.

1201
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame is gonna cream them, Okay. I

1202
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: think Notre Dame should cream Navy. Okay, they should not

1203
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: to say they will. That line when I made this

1204
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: document was thirteen in favor of Notre Dame. I looked

1205
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: before we hit Live Eric Live here down to eleven

1206
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: and a half. So there is steam on Navy. I

1207
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: hope it keeps coming down. I'm inclined to go heavy

1208
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: on Notre Dame, so I think that's a good matchup

1209
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: for them. We got Oregon playing host to Illinois. Alabama

1210
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: favored by a pretty hefty margin against Miszoo, Penn State

1211
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: minus about a touchdown on the road against Wisconsin. By

1212
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: the way, it was just announced that the Penn State

1213
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

1214
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: Game is going to be a noon kickoff. Which means

1215
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: that Oregon Michigan will be a three thirty, won't wear out.

1216
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh oh great, goodbye, my pretty good, pretty good time

1217
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: set up. Love that and uh LSU against A and

1218
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: M is sort of like the big matchup in the SEC.

1219
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: That game's in Kyle Field. It is at seven thirty

1220
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: on ABC. An M is favored by two and a

1221
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: half points. So those are the big games. There are

1222
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: some other ones of note Nebraska, Ohio State, Georgia Tech,

1223
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech byu UCF, Texas Vandy who knows right in Nashville, right, Yeah, Yeah,

1224
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: We've got Michigan, Michigan State, SMU Duke not bad, Cincinnati,

1225
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: Colorado so maybe lacking for obvious Georgia versus Texas style headliners,

1226
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: But that's plenty of intrigue here. There are a bunch

1227
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: of games on this docket that I'm pretty excited about.

1228
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 2: By the way, did you see that the SEC ruled

1229
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: on the bottle throwing for Texas. They got fined I

1230
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: think two hundred and fifty K and they have to

1231
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: use all available technologies to identify and ban any of

1232
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: the bottle throwers.

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01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw, I saw one of the

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: barstool Accounts was tweeting out a screen grab of a

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01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: text message that was reportedly going around to students. I

1236
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen that actually confirmed anywhere. Yeah, but yeah, that

1237
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: would be something.

1238
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: To students announcing that they're banned from Texas events the

1239
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 2: rest of the year.

1240
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that they're pulling their tickets. I don't know

1241
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: if it's legit, but you know, if they're using all

1242
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: available technology. All of these stadiums have high powered cameras

1243
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: where they can look for people.

1244
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: By the way, the ultimate losing effort is everybody who

1245
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: threw bottles. It was a winning effort for that play

1246
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: because I don't know if the SEC commented on the

1247
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: horrible play or the horrible call that brought out the throwing.

1248
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 2: But all those Texas throwers getting banned for the rest

1249
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: of the year as they watched their team lose the

1250
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 2: biggest game of the season for them.

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01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: You miss games at home against Florida and Kentucky. Okay,

1252
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: it would have been a fun night. A and M

1253
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: is on the road this yere Kyle Field. Yeah, so

1254
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: those are the big games. Again. We're going to do

1255
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: our Thursday preview a little bit later on this week

1256
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1260
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Speaker 1: has been a very successful season for us. A lot

1261
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Speaker 1: of new people have found in the show, so we

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: appreciate having you here. Always fun to grow our little

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Speaker 1: I keep calling a pirate ship. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: good way to I like that. That's great. Yeah, cool

1265
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Speaker 1: with that. So look final bit here. Our guy Shay

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Speaker 1: put together an extended cut of the reverbs because we

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01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: had so much going on when we did our last

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Speaker 1: episode on Saturday night. Also kudos to Shae for cutting

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Speaker 1: reverbs on his tenth wedding anniversary. Okay, this is a

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: separate conversation, but he put these together after the fact.

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Speaker 1: I assured him he did not need to get these

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Speaker 1: to us right a SAP because we would do them

1273
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Speaker 1: part of the Tuesday show. These aren't super long, but

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Speaker 1: it is indicative of I think how fans were feeling

1275
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: here the rest of the way in week eight. So

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Speaker 1: I have a quick listen.

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Speaker 3: It's Jimmy fromman All and I can't wait for tomorrow

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Speaker 3: morning to see if Dusty May can get the Wolverlines

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 3: ready to make a run at the dance.

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Speaker 1: This yeah, dan Ty Travis from Ferndo, Key, Florida.

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Speaker 6: This is Patrick from Tavia, Hellen. Hello, this is Alex

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Speaker 6: from East Lansing, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Get out of your muster packet because it's the home

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Speaker 1: dog of a.

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Speaker 4: Week baby, No Green go stay.

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 6: Jonathan Kim more like Jonathan him sick. Field goals to

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Speaker 6: beat Iowa at their own game.

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Speaker 4: No Green, So wait, is Texas not back? Or is

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt better than Georgia? Or are both of those things

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 4: true or neither of them true? I'm very confused.

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Speaker 7: Hey, asverb, this is Don in Maryland. This call is

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01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 7: being overturned because my household members just threw a water

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Speaker 7: bottle at me.

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Speaker 6: Any who are showing the beer on the fielders?

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Speaker 1: That's just me? No, No, Carson, Carson, We're wearing the

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01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: white shirts, not the white helmets. We've been over this, Carson,

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Speaker 1: Go dogs.

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Speaker 6: Be those tears, take slight, crappy, burnt, overdone Texas barbecue,

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 6: Go dogs sick the woof woof.

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Speaker 1: I just watched my Gators absolutely kick Kentucky's ass. It

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: was glorious period. Just letting you know that this happens

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: against your lock of the week, Dan Arkansas Razorbacks.

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Speaker 6: Go Taggers.

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 3: Hi, This is e J and Family checking in from Madison,

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01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: Wisconsin after the latest edition of October Go Go.

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 7: This is Steve from Atlanta, Georgia talking about seven wing Diana.

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Speaker 1: So what when we got on boys?

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Speaker 5: Coach stick wins again.

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Speaker 3: So I write a newsletter called the Solid Plates, and

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01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year I made a bunch

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Speaker 3: of predictions. One of them was that this is Miami's year.

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 3: Other ones were that Oklahoma would do better than expected

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Speaker 3: and the UCF would win the Big twelve. Yeah, all

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Speaker 3: those aren't panning out. My Miami one's doing great.

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Speaker 5: Main fan here. Could Maine really get their first shutout

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 5: in eleven years against number five with Villanova? Uh No,

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01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 5: Villanova scored with two minutes left to make it thirty

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 5: five to seven, one of the most surprising results of

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01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 5: the year.

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Speaker 4: Go Black Bears.

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 6: California gold Bears are like the little brother of the

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01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 6: entire acc. It's like when you're playing Smash Bros. Your

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 6: little brother, and you let him get you down to

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 6: twenty cent and then you come back and beat the

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Speaker 6: everlove and crap out of him about cal You'll you'll see.

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Speaker 7: What my prosper When will the WVU end the Neil

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 7: Brown era? Can we please wow stop watching this horrendous

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 7: product and bring back home the prodigal West Virginia native

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 7: and Jimbo Fisher at the next EP coach.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Wow, you just extended Neil Brown. Yeah.

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01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't a huge believer for last year, but I

1332
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: always appreciate improvement.

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Speaker 1: But it's tough. It's a tough watch this year. Thank

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01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: you to everybody who dialed in at eight five five

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01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: verbal three. As always, it's a pleasure to hear your messages. Yes,

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: we got inundated this past week with calls, and Shay

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01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: said there are too many on the cutting room four.

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: We need to do a whole other segment. So that

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Speaker 1: does it for the spillover episode. Don't forget previews coming

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01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,879
Speaker 1: up on Thursday. We've got a lot of games to discuss.

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01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: You heard just a small sampling of them. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about what this week has in store as we get

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Speaker 1: into week ten. Don't forget Dan, We're going to that

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: Orgon Michigan game. Can't wait the aforementioned organ Michigan. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be there. So if you're gonna be an ann

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: Arbor or some parts around ann Arbor, give us a holler.

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01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: Let us know. We'd love to meet up. We're gonna

1348
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: try tailgating. Yeah, if you're tailgating.

1349
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: If you own a breakfast sandwich restaurant and want to

1350
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 2: give Tie the full spread, let us.

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01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: Know Solid verbal at gmail dot com. Where's this dog at?

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: Come here? Dog? He see? I put her on the

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: screen since she's been For those who have the new one,

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01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: this is the new one.

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those how many weeks old, how many months?

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01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,879
Speaker 1: There she is. She's gonna buite my microphaz Look at her.

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01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: There she is. People watching a YouTube video.

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: Some would say the best dog of any college football

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: personality around.

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01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: Oh boy, shots fired at Ben? Say, shots fired at Ben? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't take her off leash and let her roam

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01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 1: around campus. She would run away from me. Yeah, especially

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01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: right now. But for those watching the video, if you're wondering,

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: why have I been distracted and kind of all over

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: the place, I've been chasing her around the room. So

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Speaker 1: thank you for your patience. Try not to do this again.

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Speaker 1: All good in the meantime for that guy of there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself Tye Hildebrand, thanks

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Speaker 1: for downloading, for listening, for supporting the show. We will

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Speaker 1: talk to you all on Thursday. I meantime, stay solid, peace,