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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Guilty of

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Speaker 1: Charge Podcast, presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. My name

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Speaker 1: is Stephen and I am the host as always, and

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Speaker 1: joining me is my guy Tyler. Tyler, what's up man?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Great man?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing fantastic. It was a great

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Speaker 1: holiday obviously with New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: Watched some great football games yesterday, the Rose Bowl and

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Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl. We're fantastic, So I hope everybody else

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Speaker 1: had a good New Year's New Year's weekend as well.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a bit of a New Year's Day

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Speaker 1: themed show today. We're gonna have some New Year's Resolution

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Speaker 1: Chargers Edition, and then we also have received some questions

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Speaker 1: from you guys, our listeners, and we'll address those today.

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Speaker 1: So it should be a fun one. A lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff to dive into. A lot of different questions, draft questions,

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Speaker 1: coaches questions, regular in off season questions. You guys brought

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Speaker 1: it today and I'm really excited to do dive into

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Speaker 1: some of these. That being said, Tyler and I are

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Speaker 1: fans of the team just like you guys are. We

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Speaker 1: are not employees of the Chargers. This is this show

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Speaker 1: is dedicated to our opinions and ours alone. They do

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Speaker 1: not reflect the opinions of the Chargers organization. We're very

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Speaker 1: grateful for this platform and happy to have be covering

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Speaker 1: our last game. This is a week eighteen. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe the end of the season is here. It's been

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Speaker 1: obviously an up and down season for the team, but

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Speaker 1: it's been a blast covering the team on the channel

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Speaker 1: with you guys, and we appreciate all the great support

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Speaker 1: from the Chargers as well as you guys, the listeners

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Speaker 1: and the comments and on social media and all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. And it's just kind of a surreal feeling

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Speaker 1: that the season is a few days away from wrapping up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like just yesterday we were drafting Bijon

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Speaker 2: Robinson at twenty one. Did not happen. He went a

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Speaker 2: little bit earlier than that, and everything else is so different. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've been an up and down season for sure, but

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Speaker 2: it's still been fun regardless.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always fun to cover the Chargers. I always fun

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Speaker 1: to talk about stuff, watch film. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: where football junkies for a reason and excited to dive

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Speaker 1: in stuff today. So Like I mentioned, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a bit of a New Year's Resolution theme for this episode.

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Speaker 1: We're going to feature some stuff from the season, stuff

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Speaker 1: from you know this upcoming week against the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: you know, future resolutions as well. It's it is that

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Speaker 1: time of the year, so we tried to make the

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Speaker 1: content a little bit more fun today. So, Tyler, what

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Speaker 1: is your biggest twenty twenty four New Year's resolution for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers?

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Speaker 2: The Chargers need to start winning the games that they

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Speaker 2: need to win in the fourth quarter and get away

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Speaker 2: from the quote unquote Charging that has played them for

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Speaker 2: you could say years, you could say decades, you could

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Speaker 2: say the entire franchise's history as a team that has

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Speaker 2: not won the Super Bowl. You look at the last

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Speaker 2: three years under Brandon Staley and the Chargers have twelve

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Speaker 2: games where they lost where they had a lead, or

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Speaker 2: and that, frankly, just isn't good enough. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know exactly where the Charges pull from to get over

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Speaker 2: the hump and win those games, but it could be

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Speaker 2: from themselves, from better drafting, better signings, or another head

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Speaker 2: those moments. So Charges need to be better there. There

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Speaker 2: are many things individually that I'd love the Charges to

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Speaker 2: and in particular these games where they're very very close,

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Speaker 2: but close doesn't count. You gotta win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good place to start this conversation,

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Speaker 1: you know, just being able to have that closer's mentality.

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Speaker 1: We saw glimpses of it under the Brandon Stally era, obviously.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think the best case there is that

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Speaker 1: It just needs to carry out throughout the whole season.

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Speaker 1: Like I obviously I watch a lot of Pactoll football.

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Speaker 1: It's really the only college football that I am consuming

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Speaker 1: that's not something that has been around this team. And

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Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that that changes with the new regime and

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Speaker 1: All of the closing moments that I am picturing in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, get it and listen, that contributes to the division, right,

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Speaker 2: You're thinking of these these games because they're the division

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Speaker 2: And the Charges have struggled there of course, And of

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Speaker 1: I think my resolution for twenty twenty four is to

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Speaker 1: there's been far too much pressure on Justin Herbert to

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Speaker 1: And this is not a singling out of any one person.

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Speaker 1: You know, this season has not. You know, that was

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at what they're doing with Kellen Moore now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by extension of that, my other resolution, just

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Speaker 2: because we're on the same track here. The Chargers need

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Speaker 2: to find alignment. And we've discussed this several times between

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Speaker 2: It's been so difficult for them. And if you want

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Speaker 1: And I think when it comes to the draft, like

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Speaker 2: I agree, go anybody listening, go make a Google sheet

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you can make the same thing I

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Speaker 1: some of these questions are fantastic. Really excited to jump

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Speaker 1: into them. Appreciate everybody who sent these questions. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're obviously not able to get to all of them

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Speaker 1: that you guys sent in. We'll do our best to

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Speaker 1: make sure we provide an answer on social media, but

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Speaker 1: we'll get to some of them as possible. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of draft questions in here. Obviously understandable that the

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Speaker 1: fan base is kind of pivoted to that area right now.

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Speaker 1: Me and you have started watching prospects and it's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun to dive into. So first question

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Speaker 1: here from j webbin oc He said, based on the

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Speaker 1: current projected draft order, how many quarterbacks taken are taken

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Speaker 1: in front of the Chargers at six? Again, that could

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Speaker 1: certainly change. And then based on that answer, who do

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Speaker 1: you think the Chargers could take in the draft? So

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Speaker 1: for those who are are kind of not paying attention,

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say at least two Kaylen

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Speaker 1: Williams and Drake May are really solidified. They're potentially one

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Speaker 1: and two overall. Tyler, do you think there's a chance

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Speaker 1: that maybe one of these other quarterbacks could sneak into

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Speaker 1: the draft ahead of the Chargers at six?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. So whoever trades up with the Bears at one.

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Speaker 2: That's going to be whoever with that quarterback is, and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's someone already ahead of the Chargers. Let's say

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Speaker 2: it's New England or.

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Speaker 1: The Bears at one. What's that or the Bears stay

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Speaker 1: at one or the well, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't I think with Justin Fields, I think I mean less.

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Speaker 2: They want to say Marvin Harris Junior first overall, which

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Speaker 2: I guess I would get. Regardless, I think someone ends

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Speaker 2: up trading I think they trade out two quarterbacks for sure,

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Speaker 2: and I think it ends up being three because you

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Speaker 2: have Washington, New England, the Giants, and then you potentially

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Speaker 2: could have another team jump in front of those other

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Speaker 2: teams to try to move up to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So I think three quarterbacks go ahead of the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Whether they are graded as being players that should go

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Speaker 2: top five, you know that does it's not always necessarily

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Speaker 2: the case. It's the quarterback thing. You could have a

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Speaker 2: second round hopefully if you trade out you don't have

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Speaker 2: a second round. Great on this quarterback, but some of

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Speaker 2: these quarterbacks may not be great, but you gotta trade

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Speaker 2: up for one because it's quarterback. So I think three go,

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Speaker 2: and I think Marvin Harrison Junior obviously goes before the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: probably to Arizona. If they're sticking with Kyler Murray, which

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Speaker 2: it seems like, then that's if the If the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: are in front of the Chargers, they're taking Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 2: And like you said, I guess the Bears could stay

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Speaker 2: put and take them as well. So unfortunately that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I really do think it comes down to the two

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Speaker 2: skill position players in brock Bauers and Molik Neighbors. As

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Speaker 2: long as those guys you know, are healthy, everything checks out,

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Speaker 2: they interview well, the combine's all good. Those guys should

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Speaker 2: be top seven ish picks in this draft. They are

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Speaker 2: the blue chip, bona fide great players that you can take.

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Speaker 2: Nothing is a sure bet, but if you can bet

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Speaker 2: on anybody, those two players are wants to bet on,

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Speaker 2: and I do think until proven otherwise, I really do

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Speaker 2: think brock Bauers is the pick, and I can tell

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Speaker 2: you that now on January tewod and as long as

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Speaker 2: things don't change in terms of draft order, that's probably

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Speaker 2: their pick in a few months because they desperately need

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Speaker 2: a tight end. They desperately they don't have one, really

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Speaker 2: going into next season and he's a great gosh darn player,

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Speaker 2: and when there's a great gosh darn player in front

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Speaker 2: of you, you take them. Some guys are just different.

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Speaker 2: Rock Bowers is like, I don't know what he's going

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Speaker 2: to grade out for you, but he's like a Pinae Sool.

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Speaker 2: Some prospects are just really really great, and I know

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Speaker 2: there's some position value worry there. So sure it's not

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Speaker 2: a tackle like Pine Sool, but there's Brock Bowers and

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Speaker 2: then everybody else, and I think I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to be him. The Charges desperately need another tight end.

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Speaker 2: So it's the easy answer, it's the same answer, but

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Speaker 2: I also think it's the right one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Brock Bowers, I love Malik Neighbors. Both

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Speaker 1: of those guys are fantastic prospects quickly. On the quarterback thing,

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Speaker 1: I do agree that it'll be three. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of momentum around Jayden Daniels being a potential top five

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Speaker 1: draft pick. Again, maybe that doesn't equate to him being,

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Speaker 1: you know, the fifth highest graded prospect across the board,

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Speaker 1: but we've seen this year like how hard it is

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Speaker 1: to find a quarterback like these teams are gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: there's always quarterback overdraft if the class is good enough,

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Speaker 1: and this quarterback class is good enough in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: after last night, there's a lot of Michael Pennock's talk.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely some questionable medical history there. He's also gonna

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Speaker 1: be twenty four at the start of next season before

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, I think on Penix is a little bit

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Speaker 1: much for me, you know, based on those two things.

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Speaker 1: But Jayden Daniels, I think his ability as a runner,

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Speaker 1: his growth as a passer. He's also older, but I

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Speaker 1: think his his ceiling is continuing to point up. I

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Speaker 1: think Penix, you're a little bit worried about how far

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Speaker 1: his ceiling can get because of the injury history. So

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Speaker 1: I think Jayden Daniels is that in play in the

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Speaker 1: top six. Maybe that equates to the Charges potentially training

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Speaker 1: down and somebody, you know, taking Jayden Daniels there. That

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Speaker 1: would be fantastic. So I think ultimately it'll be three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Marvin Harrison Junior for sure off the board

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Speaker 1: before the Chargers pick. So that puts the Chargers in

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Speaker 1: a great spot. Maybe again you can take you know,

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Speaker 1: Brock Bowers, Milik neighbors would be a great selection. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you convinced on of these teams to trade up for

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Speaker 1: one of the offensive tackles. I know that there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who want the Chargers to take an

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle. I happen to really like Olufashanu and JC

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Speaker 1: Latham from Penn State and Alabama, respectively, So I think

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are in a great spot. My thinking into

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Speaker 1: the draft, though, is that you take the highest end

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Speaker 1: player at their position and you figure everything else out.

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Speaker 1: That to me is Brock Powers. Brock Powers is to

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Speaker 1: me the best prospect in this class and outside of

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior. So if Martin Harrison juniors on the board,

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Speaker 1: if you take him, if not, it's Brock Powers all day,

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Speaker 1: every day for me. And I know that there's position concerns,

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Speaker 1: But if we could go back and redo the draft class,

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Speaker 1: how high is Sam Laporter going, How high is Dalton

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Speaker 1: and Ky going? And nobody's going to pivot to all

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Speaker 1: draft value equates that their second round picks. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's the production, it's the prospect. And I think

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Speaker 1: you know, there's justification for Brock Powers going that high.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the best prospect not named Marbn Harrison

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Speaker 1: Junior in this twenty twenty four draft class.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Go take the players that make the

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Speaker 2: rest of college football look like children. Go take them.

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Speaker 2: Those are a good players sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, this is a good question as well

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Speaker 1: from Silvestre. If the draft were today, what's bigger the

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Speaker 1: need on defense or the need on offense? This is

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Speaker 1: kind of taking out where the Chargers are picking here.

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Speaker 1: What do the Chargers need more of? Where do they

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Speaker 1: need more help at? What's your answer there, Tyler?

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Speaker 2: So this surprised me because I thought I was going

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Speaker 2: one direction. I believe that their number one need in

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Speaker 2: terms of which specific position is the most empty right now,

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Speaker 2: is corner or I guess defensive back. That's not even

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Speaker 2: really a question to me. But I actually think overall,

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Speaker 2: if you have seven picks, I think the offense actually

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Speaker 2: needs more help. I think there's more issues in terms

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Speaker 2: of holes on the roster on offense than there are

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Speaker 2: on defense. And I think that Corey Linsley that situation

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Speaker 2: did not help them, and then becoming going from all

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Speaker 2: pro to we are not even sure right now at

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Speaker 2: this current point in time, I'm not sure that changes

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Speaker 2: a bit. The running backs. You know, you go one, two, three,

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Speaker 2: four technically, and they all are either gone next year

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Speaker 2: or haven't worked out so far. That changes quite a bit.

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Speaker 2: So you might need a tight end one, a tight

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Speaker 2: end two, or RB one, an RB two, a center,

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Speaker 2: a swing tackle, potentially another receiver. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot for the Chargers to have to fill here all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, And so while I think that corner

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Speaker 2: is the most obvious need for the Chargers, I don't

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Speaker 2: think it necessarily means that defense overall needs the most

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Speaker 2: help in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think we're projecting, obviously

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Speaker 1: a lot of roster turnover with this these free agency moves,

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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some decisions that have to be made.

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Speaker 1: I think that you can make a real argument that

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Speaker 1: pass rush in general could be the biggest need that

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Speaker 1: the Chargers have. Two Lee obviously is going to be

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Speaker 1: on the roster. I think Morgan Fox is going to

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Speaker 1: be on the roster. He's still under contract and there's

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Speaker 1: really no point in moving off of him because that

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Speaker 1: doesn't benefit them. I think Khalil Mack or Joey Bosa,

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Speaker 1: one of them will still be on the roster, but

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like this is a

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Speaker 1: league that is really morphing into Like you need four

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Speaker 1: high end pass rushers or at least three and one

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Speaker 1: other guy who can tribute at a high level at

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Speaker 1: an efficient level. And when the Chargers had Joey Bosa healthy,

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Speaker 1: Khalil Tuley and Morgan Fox, that was that was their

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Speaker 1: best pass rush performances. Obviously, Joey gets injured and then

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Speaker 1: things change and Tooley has kind of slowed down a

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Speaker 1: bit recently. He's still impacting the run at a very

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Speaker 1: high level, but as a pass rusher it's been it's

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Speaker 1: been a bit tougher for him over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 1: So due to the uncertainty there, I would almost lean

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Speaker 1: towards pass rusher being that much of a draft need.

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Speaker 1: This is not necessarily it doesn't sound like a great

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Speaker 1: cornerback class, but there's a great pass rushing defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: in this class. Johnny Newton from Illinois. There's Leatsu Latu

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Speaker 1: for the edge rusher from UCLA. There's Jared Verse from

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Speaker 1: Florida State. Like, if you're talking about pure draft need,

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Speaker 1: I think cornerback is the big biggest position need, but

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Speaker 1: based off of where they're potentially taking in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I think you could make a real argument that it's

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Speaker 1: pass rush.

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Speaker 2: That's a point. I definitely think that defensive tackle is

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Speaker 2: a position the Chargers. Chargers fans aren't really talking about

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Speaker 2: as much that needs to be addressed, and I think

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Speaker 2: when you move on to Batch and Joseph Day, that

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Speaker 2: really heightens the need for another defensive tackle in this class.

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Speaker 2: So all the more reason to trade back because that

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Speaker 2: second round range especially, I feel like the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years has yielded some really strong defensive tackles in

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Speaker 2: the draft, and I think the charge need to take

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Speaker 2: advantage of that. But you also need a center, you

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Speaker 2: also need a corner. So yeah, trading back would be good,

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Speaker 2: and defensive tackle, I think is something they definitely need

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Speaker 2: to look into. They could do it in round one.

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Speaker 2: Newton is awesome and I totally get it, but round two,

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Speaker 2: round three, definitely got to go find somebody else there too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some great defensive tackle play on display yesterday

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Speaker 1: for Michigan and Texas, especially if you watch those two games.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we had some similar questions there about those

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Speaker 1: topics from Kurtz as well as Swipa and Bartholomew w

646
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Speaker 1: so we'll know we appreciate you guys queestions, but hopefully

647
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: we answer them in some aspect there. Let's get to

648
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: some coaching questions here, Tyler, Bill Bohart asking I'm not

649
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: sure if you have already covered this and I missed

650
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: the podcast episode, but hypothetically, let's say Jim Harbass stays

651
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: at Michigan, do you then pick a GM first and

652
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: allow him to control the hiring process. So there's a

653
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: lot of questions out there like this. I just wanted

654
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: to use Bill's questions specifically to talk about this. The

655
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: charters have said that they're going to do both at

656
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the same time and then whoever is kind of like

657
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: the best candidate, like they'll let that person pick the

658
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: one or the other basically. But Tyler, if Michigan, if

659
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh stays at Michigan, what are your thoughts here

660
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: about pivoting first to the GM.

661
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: I believe that, especially in terms of the demand, there's

662
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: only one GM candidate you absolutely have to go do first,

663
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: and that is Adam Peters. And if that is your

664
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 2: number one, and I think it seems like unanimously around

665
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: you know, people who the media personalities and people who

666
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: discuss this, and even among fans, Adam Peters is the

667
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: number one candidate out there. I think that's the guy

668
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: you got to go get first. If you do not

669
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: get him, then I do not believe it really matters

670
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: which order you go. I think Adam Peters is the

671
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: only person you go out and you go get first

672
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: and figure out the rest later. If Jim Harbaugh does

673
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: not go to the Chargers, yeah, I.

674
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: Would agree with that. Adam Peters the assistant general manager

675
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: for the San Francisco forty nine Ers. For those who

676
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: don't know he's he's consistently the number one option from

677
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: a GM standpoint. Ben Standig from the Athletic had, you know,

678
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: a great article covering the commander side of things, but

679
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of great information about the candidates overall,

680
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: and Adam Peters had like this huge blurb of like

681
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: six or seven paragraphs, and every other other one was

682
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: like one or two. You know. There was another survey

683
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: from the Athletic back in September, and Adam Peters was

684
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: the only assistant general manager to get mentioned by agents

685
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: that were surveyed to be one of the top talent evaluators.

686
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: Everybody else was actual like GM candidates. So Adam Peters

687
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: has a lot of fans around the league, a lot

688
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: of poll around the league. So I do tend to agree, Like,

689
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: if you're pecking order, so to speak, is you know,

690
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's the top candidate for the head coaching side, he's

691
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: off the board if you want to pivot to Adam

692
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Peters at that point, I'm okay with that. But like

693
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: Tyler said, I feel great about like eight candidates from

694
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: a GM side of things. I think there are such

695
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: a quality pool to pull from, you know, from the

696
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: personnel side of things, and there's not as many openings.

697
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see three, maybe four GM openings.

698
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: There could be six, seven, eight head coaching opening so

699
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: and there's not eight head coaching candidates I think right now.

700
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: So that I think there's a much deeper pool at

701
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: GM where you could be a little bit more patient there.

702
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: And then of course, if you do hire a coach

703
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: who's tied to a certain GM kennony, maybe you want

704
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: to go that route. So I think I agree, I'm

705
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: cool being a little bit more patient on the GM front.

706
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point to bring up, actually, because

707
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: we've discussed that, especially on offense, there's not a huge

708
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: pool of of head coaches to pull from. There's really

709
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: nobody out there as far as we can tell. We

710
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: haven't seen what happens at the end of the year

711
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: when some other teams make some pretty significant changes at

712
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: head coach. So yeah, that could change things. But for

713
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: right now, yeah, there isn't a ton out there, so

714
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I could see head coach being solidified

715
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: if you want. I think Ben Johnson seems to be

716
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: the hottest name in terms of offensive minded offensive I guess,

717
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 2: not counting hardball offense side of the football, So maybe

718
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: you have to go get him first, But I think

719
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: that Adam Peters is the only one you really have

720
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: to go out and actually get one first because everybody's

721
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: gonna want him.

722
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, a certain owner in Carolina very much wants to

723
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: hire bench, so that's been very well documented. He was

724
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: delivered a very large fine today, so that's going to

725
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: be a very interesting thing to watch over there. All right,

726
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: next question here, sticking in the coach round here, Ryan Kenzinger,

727
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: you guys think there's any possibility killing Moore is back

728
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: as the play caller next season and would you be

729
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: happy with that? What do you think there, Tyler?

730
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a chance he's back next year.

731
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: I think that one. Justin Herbert does very much so

732
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: like him, and I think I would understand the Chargers

733
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: looking at what happened the first few weeks of the

734
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: season and going like that was the plan. This, this

735
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: could have been something. This could have been the team

736
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: that threw for four hundred and fifty yards, had four

737
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: touchdowns against the Vikings and Justin Herbert up until that

738
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: point the best game of his career in my opinion.

739
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: You know, the team that dropped thirty four on the Dolphins.

740
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: I think that the Charges could look at that and go,

741
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: we need to go with that, And they're probably looking

742
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: at what Shane Steikin is doing. Man, what if we

743
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: had one more year? Now we don't know Shane Styke

744
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: in in Philly, I think grows more than Shane Styke

745
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: And if the Chargers keptch everything the same. So it's

746
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: not a perfect match there, but I think you look

747
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: at what he's doing and goo, maybe one more year.

748
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 2: So if the Chargers believe that Kellen Moore can bring

749
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: them what they did the first three weeks, and Justin

750
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Herbert really likes him, which I believe he does. And

751
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: by the way, like Justin Herbert was improving, I think

752
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: it was his best season until it wasn't with all

753
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,959
Speaker 2: the certain injuries and whatnot. But what he was able

754
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: to do at the line of scrimmage, what he did

755
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: against the Lions, we have not seen that. You know what,

756
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: you think it's the Packers one of his best games.

757
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: You know, him calling things the line of scrimmage, making audibles.

758
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: That's very different. So in terms of Keenan Allen, of

759
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: course than Justin Herbert, I think Kellen Moore could stick

760
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: around because he made those players really really good. Nah

761
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 2: made them good. Sounds mean, sounds like the other guy

762
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't get enough credit. They all worked really well together,

763
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: and so I can understand them keeping him around. So

764
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: I would I would totally understand why.

765
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the vision of the offense feels incomplete

766
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: because of all the injuries. But when it was complete,

767
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: it was a ton of fun to watch. It was

768
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: an objectively top three unit in points EP per play

769
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: success rate, all that stuff, and like you mentioned, it

770
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: really felt like Justin was taking that next step, and

771
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: then all the injuries kind of derailed the season. So

772
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: I think from an ownership standpoint, you know, they came

773
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: out and said, you know, Justin Herbert is our number

774
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: one priority in like supporting him. Well, if he feels

775
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 1: like Kellen Moore is his best chance at staying supported,

776
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: there's absolutely a chance that Kellen Moore can stick around.

777
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: And there are definitely some things that I think I

778
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: would like to see changed if Kellen Moore does stick around,

779
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: from like schematic standpoint as well as personnel usage and

780
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: things like that. But it's really tough for me to say,

781
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: you know what this the future of Kellen's status is

782
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: without knowing who the head coach is, because if you

783
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: hire somebody who's an offense of coach, maybe their offensive

784
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: philosophies clash. If you hire a defensive coach, maybe that

785
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: makes Kellen's job a little bit it's safer. You know.

786
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: You look at what the Miami Dolphins did when the

787
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Mike McDaniel. They still kept the same defensive coordinator

788
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: because it was kind of viewed as like, well, Mike

789
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: can fix the offense. Somebody that's been in the building

790
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: can stay with the defense and kind of keep things running.

791
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: And I think that could be a possibility in for

792
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers, depending on who they hires as the head coach.

793
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: You know, Kellen Moore still has a lot of fans

794
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: around the league. It was reported a few weeks ago

795
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: that the Panthers would still be interested in interviewing him

796
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: for their opening So we'll see. But at the end

797
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: of the day, if Justin Herbert wants Kellen Moore to

798
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: stick around, I think that has significant pull this time around.

799
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I wish we got eight games

800
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: of Kellim Moore in that offense because we'd feel a

801
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: lot differently. We'd see what it looked like for half

802
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: of a season and then injuries pile up, of course,

803
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, I wish we got more time with that

804
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: offense to really see what they could bring for more

805
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: than just.

806
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: Three Yeah, I agree there, all right. Next question here,

807
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: kind of shifting gears a little bit, Riot or Die

808
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Chargers asked how do the Chargers go about upgrading their

809
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: secondary How do you business year's free agency and draft

810
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: classes for corners specifically is his second question there? What

811
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: do you think, t Eiler?

812
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it seems like to me, especially after watching

813
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the Iowa Corner, but watching three of

814
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: the four top corners in this class, it feels I

815
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: don't mean this is a knock, but it feels like

816
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: last year's wide receiver class, where the depth is probably

817
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: going to be very strong, and there's some good guys

818
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: you can get end of round one into round two,

819
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: et cetera. But maybe you don't have to take one

820
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: super early. Maybe you could wait. And there's no real

821
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: like number one guy. There's no Gonzales, there's no Witherspoon,

822
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: there's no joy Porter Junior. Not that those guys you know,

823
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: like McKinstry and Wiggins can't be, you know, really good

824
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: corners and aren't really good prospects.

825
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: They are.

826
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: I just think that those guys were like top seven

827
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: players in their class. I think for me, there were

828
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: top six on my off board. Not that anybody cares,

829
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: but for what it's worth, I really did like those guys.

830
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: I think at this corner class. I didn't watch mckinistry

831
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: specifically yesterday's movie. That changes, but I think you can

832
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: wait a bit. The Chargers need to go get some

833
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: veteran presence, some sort of stop gap in free agency

834
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: that it's tough to find a good veteran that's also

835
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: cheap in free agency because those guys are going to

836
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: be more expensive. But got to find some veteran presence

837
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: out there. I think in free agency to start opposite

838
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: a Sante Siamo junior.

839
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you're expanding this a secondary, I

840
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: think the one place I would start is bringing back

841
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: a Loohi Gilman and maintaining some continuity at the safety position.

842
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: Jalen Hawkins has looked pretty good, you know, as the

843
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: safety three, so I think that's something you can continue

844
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: to invest resources in. Obviously you're not handing jobs out

845
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: by any means, but you know, you can probably solve

846
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: the safety position a little bit easier if you keep

847
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: alow He around, and then you can really devote more

848
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: resources to in the cornerback position. You know, Like Tyler said,

849
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: I do kind of agree that this is probably a

850
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: deeper class more than a high end cornerback class. You know,

851
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of Nate Wiggins of Clemson

852
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: relative to this class, but I don't think he's you know,

853
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: in that same kind of range as the guy who's

854
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: Tyler mentioned as a guy like Sauce Gardner or j. C. Horn,

855
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: But he's a good player. He's a first round corner.

856
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: If you trade down to twelve and you take Nate Wiggins,

857
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: I think that's that's fine. I think that's a fine

858
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: selection there. But at six at seven, I think that's

859
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Speaker 1: probably a little bit too early for the cornerback group.

860
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Speaker 1: So you're probably talking about a second round pick. You're

861
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: probably talking about maybe a third round pick, depending on

862
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, the center position, depending on wide receiver, tight end,

863
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, pass rusher. There's a lot

864
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: of question marks obviously surrounding this roster. So I think

865
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: this is a cornerback room that you can definitely add

866
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Speaker 1: to on Day two of the draft. And I think

867
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Speaker 1: you could look at maybe what the Lions did with

868
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Speaker 1: their secondary group this year, where you're adding just a

869
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Speaker 1: bunch of solid veterans and then you drop in a

870
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Speaker 1: second round pick, a top fifty selection wherever that is,

871
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Speaker 1: and I think you feel better about that room. Maybe

872
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Speaker 1: Dean Leonard kind of takes a step forward, Maybe just

873
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: your Taylor can sees take a step forward. Easting. Vassie's

874
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: played well over the last few weeks, so I think

875
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: you just you add as many pieces as you can,

876
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: you let them sort it out in training camp, and

877
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: you drop in a top fifty pick and kind of

878
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: go from there for the second area as a whole.

879
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: Yep, all we need is the NFL to let a

880
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: Brian Branch type player drop all over to the second

881
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: round and we're good to go.

882
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: Somebody that I would be very happy if the Chargers

883
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: had taken at twenty one. Not to say that Clinton

884
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: isn't that guy, but Tyler any of these other questions

885
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: that we compiled to stand out to you? Or running

886
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: a little short on time, so maybe one or two more?

887
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: Sure I can find one. Let's see from Darren and

888
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: more of an ex is another question? Curious because I

889
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: don't keep track necessarily and it's been harder to pay

890
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: attention to the last few weeks. Is it just me?

891
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Or are there no design RB's screenplays in Kellen Moore's cookbook.

892
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: Can't remember the last time the Chargers ran one for Eckler?

893
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: Have those been missing? It's more of an asking you

894
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: question if you happen to know, I guess we could

895
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: have dialed up Argent and phone a friend here to

896
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: see how many screens the Chargers have actually run. But

897
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: even outside of ARB's screens, it feels like the Chargers

898
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: have run fewer screens in general. Tends to be more

899
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: like we were frustrated that Quentin Johnson was not getting

900
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: the ten screens that they would run every week to

901
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: start the season too. Mike Williams to Josh Palmer, to

902
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: Keenan Allen to Gerald Everett. So I feel like, overall

903
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: that's that's gone away, But I could be wrong.

904
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, according to Pro Football Focus, Austin Eckler has

905
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: thirty one targets behind the line of scrimmage. Obviously, not

906
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: all of those are going to be screens. That's a

907
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: decent amount for him. Obviously, they check downs things like that.

908
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: I think that they're a part of the playbook. I

909
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: would like to see more of them, especially with the

910
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: East and stick around. I would like to see more

911
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: screens for Darius Davis. I do agree that that's a

912
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: part of the playbook that I would like to see increased.

913
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: I love when Kella Moore does run a screen. We've

914
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: seen Tariris Davis have huge plays off of the screens.

915
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: We see Nasin Eckler have big plays off of the

916
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: screens when they're there and when they're called. I think

917
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: they're fantastic plays and they're very well designed and executed

918
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: for the most part. But I do agree, I think

919
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: that needs to be a greater emphasis going forward.

920
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, for one game, for.

921
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: One game, and then if Kellen's back next year, for

922
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: next season.

923
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 2: Yep.

924
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: All right, did you have another one there that you

925
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: wanted to hit on? Oh?

926
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Speaker 2: I get to do another one. Okay, So who are

927
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: some of your favorites from Mackenzie? By the way, who

928
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: are some of your favorite coordinator candidates? So of course

929
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: it's it depends on who the head coaches, But who

930
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: are some of the names that keep popping up in

931
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: your mind? We've discussed before, et cetera, to help round

932
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: out this staff.

933
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when you're looking at coordinator names, I

934
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: think my eye is kind of drawn towards, you know,

935
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: like quarterbacks coaches as well as like defensive line coaches.

936
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: We've talked a few, and I'll let you hit on

937
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: some of the defensive line guys. But from an offensive standpoint,

938
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Speaker 1: I'm super intrigued by Gerard Johnson, the quarterbacks coach in Houston.

939
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: The Chargers interviewed him for the offensive coordinator position last year,

940
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: and he's only added to his resume working with C. J.

941
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: Stroud and Houston as well as getting a positive game

942
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: out of positive two game stretch out of case Keenum.

943
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: So that's somebody that I'm super interested in as a

944
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: potential offensive coordinator candidate. Obviously, Bobby Slowick is a potential

945
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: head coaching candidate. That pairing would do very well for me.

946
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think there are some other ones too,

947
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: But I'll let you hit on some of the defensive

948
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: guys that we've talked a bit about. Specifically, the gentleman

949
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: in Tennessee.

950
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, yes, that's my coordinator crush is Terrell Williams

951
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: from Tennessee, the assistant head coach last defense slash defensive

952
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: line coach for the Titans, even got to be the

953
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: head coach for a game in the preseason against I

954
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: believe the Bears this past year. Excellent defensive line ties

955
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: to Khalil Mack from Los Angeles would love him there

956
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: as far as offense goes, Tanner Engster in the Lion's

957
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: pass game coordinator, brought him up last year as a

958
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: potential oc option. I think again, like many others. He's

959
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: only built his resume with another really good year. Chris Coseric,

960
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: of course, the forty nine Ers defensive line coach. That's

961
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: a pretty popular one. A lot of ties to the

962
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers, including one Adam Peters, Cowboys secondary coach

963
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: and pass game coordinator Joe Witt Junior, he'd be great.

964
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: And then I think with so many ties to this guy,

965
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: and with so many potential first year head coaches, I

966
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: think Dolphin's QB coach and past game coordinator Darryl Bubble,

967
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: with his experience, would be a good person to lean on.

968
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: We've talked about these guys quite a bit more than

969
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: welcome to go back to our channel and watch our

970
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: Big Four episode and other rankings and such. Yeah, those

971
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: guys really stick out to me. But there's plenty of

972
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: good options.

973
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think also on the defensive side, Al Harris,

974
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: the secondary coach in Dallas, is going to be a

975
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: hot commodity. He's somebody who's done awesome work there from

976
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: a secondary perspective, it sounds like he's going to be

977
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: sounds like some of these head coaches that were potential,

978
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: like d cooc options or a lot of them are

979
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: potentially keeping their jobs. So we'll see what happens there.

980
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of defensive line coaches, we brought them up on

981
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Speaker 1: our show again. Tyler mentioned that you can check him out,

982
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: but Jacques ces Air, former Charger, is building a very

983
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: positive coaching career found there in Houston right now as

984
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach. Will Anderson is doing some great things.

985
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: Is down there as a pass rusher. I forget his

986
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: first name, Collins, the defensive tackle. I think Malik, Yeah,

987
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: Malie Collins. You know, so, Jaxi's Air has been kind

988
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: of a budding defensive line coach. I love the idea

989
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: of getting a defensive line coach as a coordinator because

990
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: it just, you know, ads that emphasis up front in

991
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: the trenches. Trell Williams would be a great option. Jaxi's

992
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: as well fits that mold, and I think it'd just

993
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: be really cool is to get, you know, a former

994
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Charger who's in coaching in the NFL. Would be cool

995
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: to see him brought back to coach the Chargers in

996
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: some capacity.

997
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: Yes, the Chargers fans are definitely clamin ering for a

998
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: former Chargers player to be a coordinator for the Chargers,

999
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: but he's there for the defense will be just fine.

1000
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunber all right, I think that'll do it for

1001
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Speaker 1: us today. Tyler, any final thoughts before we head.

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1003
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1005
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1006
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Speaker 2: you got.

1007
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and sincerely, I do appreciate all the great work

1008
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Speaker 1: from the Chargers and their production team. Eddie and Greg

1009
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: specifically have worked Wonders with us all season long producing

1010
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Speaker 1: the show. We are super appreciative of their work and

1011
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Speaker 1: Megan and everybody on the social team putting out our content.

1012
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: It's been a true treat to cover this season. Obviously

1013
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: we wish there were more wins, but it's been a

1014
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Speaker 1: ton of fun working with the best production team in

1015
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Speaker 1: the league. And sincerely mean that so appreciate all you

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Speaker 1: guys for listening. Appreciate you guys for supporting. Like Tyler said,

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Speaker 1: check us out on our own channel as well. We

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Speaker 1: do appreciate all the support over there. As always, I

1019
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Speaker 1: will see you at this time next week. As always,

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Speaker 1: full time