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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast tecond Hour.

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck kicks off right now, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: immigration in my friends, illegal immigration specifically, So let's bring

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Speaker 2: things up to the state of play right now. A

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Speaker 2: recording to CNN here, I know, I know, fake news.

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Speaker 2: A federal appeals court late Tuesday put Texas's immigration law

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Speaker 2: on hold, hours after the Supreme Court cleared the way

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Speaker 2: for the state to begin enforcing the measure. In a

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Speaker 2: brief order, a three judge panel of the Fifth Circuit

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Speaker 2: US Court of Appeals voted two to one to wipe

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Speaker 2: away a previous ruling from a different panel that had

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Speaker 2: temporarily put the law into effect. The law allows state

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Speaker 2: officials to arrest and detain people who are in the

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Speaker 2: country illegally. Panel of judges issued tuesday nights order is

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Speaker 2: already set to hear arguments today on Texas's request to

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Speaker 2: put the law Senate Bill for SB four back into effect,

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Speaker 2: and we'll see what the s before future is here soon.

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court already has weighed in on this, and I

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Speaker 2: think Supreme Court is going to at least briefly procedurally

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Speaker 2: and it's going to probably have to weigh in on

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Speaker 2: this again. Let's start here. You'll notice something. You have

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Speaker 2: two sides of the equation that both say Democrat and

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Speaker 2: Republican both say that they want the illegal immigration to stop.

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Speaker 2: Yet here, for example, is Texas. This is cut twenty

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Speaker 2: Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick on the initial Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: ruling that let s be four or go into effect.

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Speaker 2: Of course it has already been put into a stay,

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Speaker 2: but play twenty, but it.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like the court has made this decision that Texas

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Speaker 3: has the right to defend ourselves against this organized, mobilized,

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Speaker 3: cartel driven invasion of our country. This is historic today

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Speaker 3: and I'm thankful for the Supreme Court a ruling. I

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Speaker 3: believe the ruling was six to three. Now this just

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Speaker 3: says it goes into effect while it works its way

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Speaker 3: through the courts. But this is a big statement that

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Speaker 3: we can go into action now and this law can

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Speaker 3: become effective now.

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Speaker 2: Now that's on one side. Play they're treating this like

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Speaker 2: a non violent invasion effectively or a non military invasion.

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Speaker 2: That's how they say the State of Texas is effectively

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Speaker 2: doing this. Meanwhile, Hakeem Jefferies in Congress very troubled when

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court said that the SB four law could

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Speaker 2: go into effect Play nineteen.

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Speaker 4: With a deeply troubling decision from the extreme conservatives on

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court. It's clear that we have a broken

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Speaker 4: immigration system. We've acknowledged that, and that we need to

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Speaker 4: address the challenges at the border. What we're seeing from

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Speaker 4: many of our Republican colleagues is that they don't want

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Speaker 4: to actually address the issue. They just want to engage

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Speaker 4: in political stunts or try not to solve the issue

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Speaker 4: so they can weaponize the border and immigration issue in November.

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Speaker 4: I think the American people are going to reject that.

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Speaker 4: But what the Supreme Court has done in this particular instance,

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Speaker 4: it is quite unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: Clay.

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Speaker 2: It's not just untrue what jeffrees, and he's representative of

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Speaker 2: the Democrats here in terms of how they're approaching this.

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Speaker 2: It's not just untrue, it's anti truth. It's the polar

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Speaker 2: opposite of the truth. Republicans in Texas are saying, let's

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Speaker 2: do something, and Democrats are demanding that they do nothing.

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Speaker 2: And that's how they want the Supreme Court to rule

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Speaker 2: in this.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, Yeah, and let's take away the politics of it

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Speaker 1: for a moment. We I think most of us would agree,

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Speaker 1: almost all of us, that the border is an unmitigated disaster,

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Speaker 1: and that of all of the things that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: the worst.

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Speaker 2: That's what the data would reflect.

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Speaker 1: Majorities of Independents, Republicans, even Democrats are saying the border's broken.

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Speaker 1: So the challenge here, as I see it, for the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court is actually the big constitutional issues at play here,

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Speaker 1: which is usually usually the president of the United States

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Speaker 1: and the federal government is going to control immigration policy.

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Speaker 1: But what should happen when immigration policy on a national

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Speaker 1: level is leading to a crisis on the ground level

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Speaker 1: in the state of Texas, which also has the right

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Speaker 1: to defend its own state sovereignty. So this would be

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Speaker 1: a more challenging issue. I think if this were Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: to understand exactly how this ruling is going to come

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Speaker 1: down when it eventually is made. And I also understand

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Speaker 1: why a lot of you out there are throwing up

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Speaker 1: have to get involved in the court system at all.

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Speaker 1: He could change all of the policies that he reversed

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Speaker 2: And this is why I think this is an important decision.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Joe Biden is the President of the United States,

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Speaker 1: but most of you out there listening to us right

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Speaker 1: now hope that Donald Trump would be president of the

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Speaker 1: United States starting in twenty twenty five. If the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court cir circumscribes the authority of the president as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to the border, that president would apply to Trump

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, as it applies to Biden in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and oh, by the way, it would

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Speaker 1: apply for the president in twenty thirty two or twenty

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Speaker 1: forty two or whatever the year would be.

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Speaker 2: How do you deal with this right well, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's the challenge. There are a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, one is the Biden administration is the one

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Speaker 2: that's claiming that there's a harm here, right that they're

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Speaker 2: saying that enforcing and this is at the most fundamental level.

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Speaker 2: The Biden White House claims that Texas enforcing immigration laws

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Speaker 2: on its own soil is interfering with the federal government

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Speaker 2: in enforcing immigration laws, right, So they're effectively making they're

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Speaker 2: advancing a supremacy clause argument about how, no, you can't

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Speaker 2: get in the way of the Feds doing it. The

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Speaker 2: problem is the Feds aren't actually doing it right. And

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Speaker 2: you see this. That's why the razor wire situation was

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Speaker 2: so I think made it so clear to everyone because

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Speaker 2: going back to the look, if you want a fewer legals,

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Speaker 2: you'd say, give us all the razor wire you got

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Speaker 2: in these places and let's stop them from doing this.

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Speaker 2: But they don't want them wanted to stop. They're treating

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Speaker 2: it like an invasion. The National Guard in Texas if

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Speaker 2: there was an invasion, right, if Mexico militarily invaded and

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Speaker 2: said we are now you know, we are seizing you know,

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Speaker 2: the city of you know, I don't know mcassa, we're

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Speaker 2: seizing al Passo, that Texas National Guard would be able

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Speaker 2: to respond to that. And the idea is that everybody

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Speaker 2: same thing. So yeah, obviously the commander in chief would

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Speaker 2: have final say over what goes on with the armed forces.

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Speaker 2: But they'd be working together, right, The whole point is

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Speaker 2: supposed to be working. The problem of the border is

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Speaker 2: they're not working together because they don't want them to.

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Speaker 2: They are insisting on preventing state assistance, which is a

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Speaker 2: total departure from other law enforcement. I mean, there's so

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Speaker 2: many things, Clay, you know, look at all the different

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Speaker 2: drug task forces and drug crimes. Drugs are a state crime,

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Speaker 2: they're also a federal crime, right, illegal drugs. And to me,

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Speaker 2: this is a bit like the Biden administration is standing

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Speaker 2: in front of a fire at our southern border and

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Speaker 2: they're saying, this fire is out of control. We need

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Speaker 2: of water and hoses saying, great, we're here to help,

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Speaker 2: and Biden is saying, get out of here. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to have a court make sure you can't use those

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Speaker 2: fire hoses to help us. I agree with all that.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you a hypothetical, because this is where

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Speaker 1: I think the Supreme Court is in a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: Let's pretend that Donald Trump wins election, as it pertains

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Speaker 1: the supremacy. Cause, let's pretend Donald Trump wins the election

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Speaker 1: and he's an inaugurated January twenty twenty five, Gavin Newsom's

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Speaker 1: still the governor of California. What if Gavin Newsom, under

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Speaker 1: the precedent the Supreme Court sets that allows Texas to

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Speaker 1: be able to interact as they see fit on the border,

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Speaker 1: decides that Donald Trump's new border policies that he puts

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Speaker 1: to be regulated differently based on California's state law. And

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Speaker 1: they're going to open up some of the border crossings

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Speaker 1: in California in contravention of federal law. And Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: then cites the ruling that came down in Texas and

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Speaker 2: That's the challenge that we're in because but that would

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Speaker 2: saying the federal law says you aren't allowed to be here.

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Speaker 2: We as Texas state law enforcement, are going to help effectuate,

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Speaker 2: if you will, the federal code, and they're not saying

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Speaker 2: clearly there'd be a like it would be interference. It

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Speaker 2: are going and this is basically sanctuary cities getting really

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Speaker 2: so in Texas, and we will arrest any federal officer

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Speaker 2: in federal immigration law. Now, I'm not saying that what

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Speaker 2: almost like an issue of comission or going along with

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Speaker 2: is interfering with our things. I agree completely.

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Speaker 1: I just think that I look at it from the

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Speaker 1: that their state law has supremacy, potentially citing the decision

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Speaker 1: such an important aspect. Tough cases make bad law, and

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Speaker 1: you have to, as a Supreme Court justice, not only

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Speaker 2: This is why I think that the outcome here is

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Speaker 2: so critical, because even if let's say, Clay to your

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Speaker 2: point about the intricacies of supremacy clause here at federal

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Speaker 2: and state law, how they interplay at the border, Let's

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Speaker 2: say that it comes out that they say, you know what,

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Speaker 2: no fine, they the federal government can even though and

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Speaker 2: this is where I think there's weakness on the Republican

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Speaker 2: side or the Texas side, the federal government can say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we don't want your buckets to put

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Speaker 2: out this fire. Yes we don't. What that will do, though,

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Speaker 2: is it will show everybody that it is a federal

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Speaker 2: to say, bring me your state truckets to put out

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's so the upside here is that it will clarify

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Speaker 2: for everybody that it's not that states cannot it cannot

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Speaker 2: help with immigration law. It's that the Biden executive branch

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the distinction that even if Texas's

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Speaker 2: We're joined now by Mark Robinson. He is the Lieutenant

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Speaker 2: governorship of the great state of North Carolina. Mark, appreciate

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Speaker 5: Sir, Hey, great to be here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Could we get you away in first And obviously North

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Speaker 6: Well, everything that Joe Biden's administration has done is been

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 1: When we saw first of all, thanks for coming on,

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Speaker 1: certainly before election day. But when we saw how you

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Speaker 1: We got to get it rocked up. Yeah, we need

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Speaker 6: The overwhelming majority of our response has been positive.

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Speaker 5: People are reaching out to us every day, and.

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Speaker 6: Not just not just Republicans, Democrats as well, who are

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Speaker 5: They're tired of folks.

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Speaker 2: If you're the governor of North Carolina, Mark and God Willing,

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Speaker 2: that's where this is heading. What are the biggest changes,

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Speaker 6: Oh, the biggest things we're going to focus on is

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Speaker 5: We want an economy that spans.

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Speaker 6: We want to drive agendas out of classroom and we

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Speaker 6: this we all hear this thing about DEI. Our version

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Speaker 6: We don't want simply want a sound based education here

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Speaker 1: Mark, I don't know if you've seen this, and we're

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Speaker 6: be safe in their neighborhoods. Not a single solitary person

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Speaker 6: cannot think of who is a a character that wants that.

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Speaker 6: The problem is we allow so many things to divide us.

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Speaker 6: It's time for us to start putting aside the things

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Speaker 6: that we disagree on long enough to work on the

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Speaker 6: things that we.

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Speaker 5: Do agree on.

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Speaker 6: And I think when we start doing that, and I

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Speaker 6: think when our so called leaders are public elected officials

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Speaker 6: start doing that in earnest, I think that we'll see

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Speaker 6: some happiness and some cooperations start to come back in

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Speaker 6: this country.

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson, everybody, Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina. He is

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Speaker 2: running for governor in North Carolina. His website in that

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Speaker 2: endeavor is Mark Robinson for NC dot Com. Clay's got

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Speaker 2: one more for you, Mark, Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got the toughest question for you, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want you to dodge it. Duke UNC, NC State

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Speaker 1: are all big schools in the NCAA tournament? Sure who

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Speaker 1: is going farthest? Who is your team? North Carolina is

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Speaker 1: known for basketball?

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Speaker 6: Well, North Carolina is known for basketball. We love Tarhill fans,

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Speaker 6: we love Duke fans, we love all our fans here

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Speaker 6: in North Carolina, from Apple Action all the way across.

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Speaker 6: But my team is in C State and I'm really

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Speaker 6: rooting for the wool Fact to go deep, if not

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Speaker 6: win at all. They did a great job in ACC

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Speaker 6: tournament win a five straight, and they did it was

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Speaker 6: absolutely outstanding. I love to see them go deep and

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Speaker 6: I love to see them win it all.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of that three that y'all hit?

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Speaker 1: I think to beat or put it into overtime against Virginia?

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Speaker 1: How high did you leave? What's the vertical look like?

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Speaker 1: I know you're not a young man anymore? But can

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Speaker 1: you still get up?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: You know, I have to admit I was actually I

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Speaker 6: was actually engaged at the time and was not able

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Speaker 6: to see the game. But when I saw it at

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Speaker 6: ball Backs agent Jim Valvano, it really did. And like

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Speaker 6: I said, I'm sure all Wolf fans probably felt like that.

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Speaker 1: I know I said last question, But Buck and I

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Speaker 1: have been talking a lot about the twenty twenty four election,

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Speaker 1: the outreach for black male voters, in particular. You're obviously

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Speaker 1: a black guy running for governor of North Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Do you see it here?

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Speaker 1: A lot of blackmail voters that are way more open

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Speaker 1: to Republican arguments than they may have been in the past.

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Speaker 1: And if so, if you buy into that, why do

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Speaker 1: you think it is?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Well, again, it's because people are tired of the status quo.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: The Democrat Party has just simply taken its mask off.

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Speaker 5: When you have a president who's willing to allow the

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Speaker 5: border to stay.

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Speaker 6: Open and allow allow us to be in periled that way,

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Speaker 6: when you see a president who's not interested in maintaining

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Speaker 6: law and order in our cities and is not interested

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Speaker 6: in allowing America to drill fors on all and have

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Speaker 6: gas prices as high as they are and drive inflation

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Speaker 6: through the roof.

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Speaker 5: Everybody is tired of.

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Speaker 6: The status quot right now, and they see that we

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Speaker 6: were much better off under a President Trump and Republicans

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Speaker 6: that we are in the President Biden.

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Speaker 5: They see that here in North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: They see it everywhere, and people of all stripes are

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Speaker 6: seeing it. And I believe that black folks are going

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Speaker 6: to be the same way. They're tired of the status

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Speaker 6: quo and they want something different, they want something better,

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Speaker 6: and I think they're going to choose.

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Speaker 2: Me governor of North Carolina. Everybody, Mark Robinson, Mark, when

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Speaker 2: you win, you got to come on and celebrate with us.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you got it, sir, Thank you so much, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Good luck to the wolf pack.

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Speaker 6: You know him as conservative radio hosts, Now just get

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Speaker 1: Find it in their podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay, Travis,

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us as we roll through the Wednesday edition of the program.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to North Carolina hopefully future Governor Mark Robinson coming

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Speaker 1: out in favor of the NC State Wolfpack. As we

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Speaker 1: roll into March Madness, take a couple of your calls

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Speaker 1: here in a moment, Buck, But I had an important announcement.

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Speaker 1: Laura Travis aka my wife was listening to my discussion

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Speaker 1: of her driving ability yesterday in the car, and she

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Speaker 1: wanted it to be said that she is twice as

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Speaker 1: good of a driver as I am, and that she

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Speaker 1: wanted to throw down the gauntlet and call me out

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Speaker 1: for what she termed and I thought it was an

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Speaker 1: aggressive take fake news about her driving ability. Now, she

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Speaker 1: did acknowledge that her mom was a really bad driver.

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Speaker 1: She did not offer any defense of her own mother,

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Speaker 1: but she said, I'm and I'm quoting her a twice

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Speaker 1: as good of a driver as you are. I think

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Speaker 1: she said one hundred percent better. And she cited my

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Speaker 1: aggressive driving as frequently making her think that she is

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Speaker 1: going to die.

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Speaker 2: So so.

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Speaker 1: I would submit that if you ever drive with someone

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Speaker 1: in the car next to you who reacts aggressively to

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Speaker 1: everything that happens, even when there is no true peril,

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna surprise probably a lot of you that

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Speaker 1: I am not very often afraid while driving myself, but

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Speaker 1: if you have someone who sits next to you and

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Speaker 1: inhales breath or reacts uproariously every time that there is

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Speaker 1: a car in close proximity, I would submit again humbly,

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Speaker 1: that is my wife sitting next to me when I

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Speaker 1: am saving her life on a regular basis by not

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Speaker 1: allowing her to drive and kill us both.

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Speaker 2: Does Lara then do the thing that maybe my own

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Speaker 2: wife Carrie does, where you have like two hundred yards

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Speaker 2: before the car ahead of you stops, but as you're

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Speaker 2: slowing down, there's the like that that thing or some

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Speaker 2: other like like the chance that this was going to

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Speaker 2: result in a bad ending is maybe one in a billion,

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Speaker 2: but you still have to hear about it as though

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Speaker 2: you just you know, missed a stroller with three babies

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Speaker 2: in it going ninety miles an hour in a twenty

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Speaker 2: mile an hour zone, Like is that where you are to?

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Speaker 1: Yes, she said, Like I drove us back from the

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Speaker 1: beach this weekend and she said, I was going to

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Speaker 1: take a nap, but I was afraid we were going

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Speaker 1: to die.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, is that why you.

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Speaker 1: Spent the whole time, you know, like on your phone

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Speaker 1: checking Instagram and not for the most part, paying attention

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Speaker 1: to what was going on? But I want it disclosed

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Speaker 1: with a lot fast as you've ever been caught speeding.

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Speaker 2: How much over have you do that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm trying to think. Probably thirty miles over

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Speaker 1: the speed limit? Wow, not close, not like a Hey,

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Speaker 1: I was only like eight eleven miles over. I haven't

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a ticket, although I have not gotten

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Speaker 1: a ticket in a couple of years now and uh

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Speaker 1: and so things are going well there. Inevitably I'm going

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Speaker 1: to now get pulled over. But I am having dure issues.

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Speaker 2: He denies this, But all of my siblings and I

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Speaker 2: remember this because I was with him. I was young,

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Speaker 2: but I was with him. He got two speeding tickets

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Speaker 2: in one day. I've never heard of another human being

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Speaker 2: doing that. I've never heard of that I have. That

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Speaker 2: is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I have gotten a beeding ticket before and thought to myself, well,

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Speaker 1: clearly now I'm not at risk of getting a speating ticket.

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Speaker 1: One of the funny things is one of the times

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Speaker 1: that I got pulled over was with my sixteen year old,

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Speaker 1: who I'm teaching to drive right now. I rode back

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Speaker 1: from school with him yesterday, which is a totally different

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Speaker 1: level of danger for anybody out there who's taught a

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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen year old.

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Speaker 2: How to drive a car. You know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: But when he was still in his car seat, we

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Speaker 1: were driving to the beach. And I've said this before

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Speaker 1: on the show. I think I have built some elementary

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Speaker 1: schools in southern Alabama. There are tons of communities down

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Speaker 1: there that exist basically their entire budget, I'm convinced is

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Speaker 1: just to pull people over who are driving to go

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Speaker 1: to the beach. For instance, I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: we're on in this community Georgiana, in Georgiana, Alabama, they

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Speaker 1: should put a statue of me up in the town

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Speaker 1: square because I swear that I built a substantial.

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Speaker 2: Portion of their elementary schools.

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Speaker 1: Georgiana, All Obama, one of the all time number one

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Speaker 1: traffic stop just gauntlets of all the country. I've been

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Speaker 1: pulled over there a ton. And one of the times

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Speaker 1: I got pulled over there, I got pulled over and

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Speaker 1: my he was like three at the time. My son

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Speaker 1: had been told, Hey, we're going to the beach. We're

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Speaker 1: going to the beach, And when we got pulled over,

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Speaker 1: he just popped up. He had been watching, you know,

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Speaker 1: a movie or something in the back of the car,

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Speaker 1: and he said, are we at the beach? Yet and

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Speaker 1: and mom said, no, do you see those flashing lights.

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Speaker 1: Dad's gonna get arrested. And I think he was. He

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Speaker 1: was traumatized at the age of three over that. But again,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy if you are right now listening to us

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Speaker 1: in Georgiana, Alabama. The reason why your kids are well

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Speaker 1: educated is because by speeding through your community, I have

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Speaker 1: funded the entire educational system of that community in South Alabama.

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Speaker 2: So Clay may be risking lives on the sidewalk, but

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Speaker 2: he is helping people with their ABC's, so that is

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Speaker 2: very nice. That's right. I would say, Uh, when you

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Speaker 2: look at the numbers, I don't have them handy. You

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Speaker 2: look at the amount of revenue that comes in some

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Speaker 2: communities from speeding tickets, slash speed cameras. Now, yes, which

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Speaker 2: is another traps speed well, but I mean I mean

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Speaker 2: the uh yeah, it's not a person.

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Speaker 1: They don't even bother pulling you down, pulling you over.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you look at the amount of money from that,

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Speaker 2: and you will have to read it a few times

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Speaker 2: because it will blow your mind. How much money I mean,

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Speaker 2: even smaller communities, millions and millions of dollars from this. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it becomes a major source of revenue. Uh to your

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Speaker 2: point about what's going on in this one part of

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Speaker 2: South Alabama you mentioned, I wish I could know all

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Speaker 2: the top my head team. If you can find this

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Speaker 2: for me, let me know. I remember a guy knew

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Speaker 2: in the NYPD. He was senior up enough that he

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Speaker 2: was involved with the finance and logistics side of things,

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Speaker 2: and he told me what the City of New York

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Speaker 2: makes in parking tickets every day in parking finds across

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Speaker 2: the city of New York. It is mind blowing. It's

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Speaker 2: effectively an additional tax on the city and the people

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Speaker 2: in it, but no one talks about it. But it's

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Speaker 2: massive sums of money.

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Speaker 1: And when I talk about a traffic like you know trap,

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Speaker 1: what a speed trap? What I'm talking about is not like, hey,

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Speaker 1: the speed limits fifty five and they pull you over

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Speaker 1: cause you're going seventy. I'm talking about you're driving on

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Speaker 1: a road and there's no difference at all, and the

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Speaker 1: speed limit goes from fifty five to thirty five to

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Speaker 1: twenty five back to thirty, Like there is no way

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Speaker 1: that a normal person driving can maintain the correct speed

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Speaker 1: without being basically a scientist of the road and on

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Speaker 1: ways which I download and use all the time. Now

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Speaker 1: they actually will mark these communities now where they have

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Speaker 1: these speed traps set up and these cameras that you're

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Speaker 1: talking about twenty five miles an hour on a road

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Speaker 1: where people you know are going sixty five or fifty

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Speaker 1: five on the opposite side a mile away.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Ali may have to back me up on

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Speaker 2: this one, but there is that experience when you're in

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Speaker 2: the Travis, the Clay Travismobile, in his suv and he's

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Speaker 2: driving where you are like, you start to feel like

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Speaker 2: almost in a roller coaster, where your your back sort

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Speaker 2: of is being pushed against the seat by these centrifical

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Speaker 2: force and you also find yourself, just like at a

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Speaker 2: roller coaster, checking to make sure that your seat belt

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Speaker 2: is buckled. I'm just saying that's a real thing. When

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Speaker 2: Clay is driving the car, all of a sudden, your

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Speaker 2: stomach is kind of hitting your spine and you're like,

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Speaker 2: I hope the seat belts work in this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's what Sally says is an accurate description.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to share Laura Travis's insults at my driving

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Speaker 1: by the way, four million parking tickets issued. Two hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty million in revenue in New York City from

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Speaker 1: parking tickets.

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Speaker 2: That is insane. Over what period?

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Speaker 1: From October twenty twenty to September twenty twenty one, According

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Speaker 1: to our crew

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty million dollars in parking tickets