1 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Strictly Business, Variety's weekly podcast featuring conversations with 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: industry leaders about the business of media and entertainment. I'm 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: Cynthia Littleton, co editor in chief of Variety Today. My 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: guest is J. B. Perette, President CEO of Discovery International. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: While many in the industry are just starting to think 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: about programming for global audiences, Discovery has been at it 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: for years. Perette oversees more than two channels serving up 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: programming in more than fifty languages. He also has experience 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: in the direct to consumer arena through his oversight of Discoveries, Eurosport, 10 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: linear and streaming platforms. Perette is a longtime lieutenant of 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Discovery CEO David Zaslow. The two work together at NBC 12 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: for years before reuniting about a decade ago at Discovery. 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: In our conversation, Perette shares his enthusiastic thoughts on the 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: potential that he sees for the pending merger of Owner 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: Media and Discovery. He also weighs in on what events 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: like the Olympics mean to subscription businesses, and he talks 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: about how Discovery is proceeding with the international rollout of 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: its Discovery Plus streamer. Our conversation took place just before 19 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: Discovery became involved in a public battle with the government 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of Poland over efforts to ban non European companies from 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: owning media in the country. Discovery owns tv N Group, 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: which marks the largest single investment in the nation by 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a US company. Tv N Group includes a news channel, 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: TVN twenty four that has been the target of the 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: license renewal fight. Discovery has vowed to press its case 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: through the existing trade treaty between the US and Poland. 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: In a later interview, Herrette told me that Discovery was 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: quote watching very closely to defend our business interests against 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: regulatory overreach an anti consumer behavior. Herette's thoughts about how 30 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: all TV is local and other insights are coming up 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: right to this break. J. B. Parrett, president of the 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: CEO of Discovery International, thank you so much for joining 33 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: me today. Great to be here. From your perch, I 34 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: realized that issues about the merger and the deal are 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: still are still very much in the pending phase, and 36 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: that you can't talk in keep specifics, but from your 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: perch in the international world, based out of London, overseeing 38 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: you know dozens of dozens of channels in all major 39 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: territories of the world. Can you talk about what you 40 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: see as the kind of the thesis for the merger 41 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: shaping up and how it will affect the international markets 42 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: that are so crucial to the global streaming racist these days. Sure, 43 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: thanks to Yeah, so we we I would say Discovery. 44 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: I've had the privilege of being this rule now for 45 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: almost eight years. UH, and it's been an incredible journey. UM. 46 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: But Discovery's journey really in the North Star that has 47 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: been the focus of it for over three decades, has 48 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: been really kind of following the consumer um, which I 49 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: think is as true then as it is now and 50 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: if you think about the evolution. It was one of 51 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: the first companies to UH in the in the early 52 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: nineties kind of move um internationally. It's actually first channel 53 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: was launching the UK, and that was because it thought, 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you know what, this incredible content that we're producing and 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: stories are universal and we can tell not them just 56 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: a great American audiences, but we can tell them to 57 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: audiences around the world. And so they branched out, followed 58 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: the customer and took the content around the world over 59 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: the last three decades. Then secondly, that following the customer 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: led to the innovation of saying, okay, well we're doing 61 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: this in pay tell of vision. But at the end 62 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: of the day, there are many markets around the world 63 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: where pay television was underpenetrated, and so, again led by 64 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: the customer, people said, well, why don't we launch some 65 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: free to air channels and broaden the reach of our 66 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: content and our stories to more customers. And so we 67 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: are now the second largest broadcaster in Europe as an example, 68 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: UM through our freed air channels across Nordics, Poland, Italy, 69 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: UK Spain, Germany. Uh and so uh now we're in 70 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: sort of the next phase, which is obviously in this 71 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: director consumer world, is there are increasing number of customers 72 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: that obviously want to access content on on demand and 73 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: a direct consumer fashion. And we've embarked on that journey 74 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: with Discovery, plus the Warner team obviously has been in 75 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: that journey with HBO Max uh and uh. So where 76 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: that's the next chapter that we're leaning into heavily. And 77 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I think when you look at those two companies coming together, 78 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: one of the things that is true about this director 79 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: consumer world is people want choice and they want simplicity. 80 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Uh and UH. If you see obviously the the fairly 81 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: wide number of different streaming services that are available now. 82 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: I think people are starting to say, we'll wait a second. 83 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, it would be great if, rather than forcing 84 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the customer to understand what show is where, if more 85 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: of it were somehow more easily accessible. And I think 86 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: part of what is the incredible potential of this, these 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: two companies coming together is the unparalleled breadth of content 88 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: offering across all genres, whether it be lifestyle, factual UH, 89 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: some of the greatest traumas, UH, comedy, UM kids documentaries. 90 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: This is a powerhouse of unparalleled content offering. And what 91 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: we've got to work on here with the team as 92 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: we go through the process is figuring out how do 93 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: we take those that incredible offering and bring it to 94 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: customers in a simple UH and compelling fashion. UM. But 95 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: we think we have a incredible lineup of stories and 96 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: genres that HE is unmatched in the industry, and we're 97 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: excited to bring that to market just as soon as 98 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: we can, obviously get through the regulatory approval process and 99 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: and operationalize it. What have you learned, even in small levels, 100 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: even in some smaller markets, about how you know how 101 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: customers embrace streaming, how they embrace streaming versus linear and 102 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: how that changes what they're willing to pay for and 103 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: how they consume. We obviously have been at this for 104 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: several decades, and I'd say are the leading global media company, UH, 105 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: And so we have a lot of lessons. I think 106 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: Number one is it's not a one size fits all UM. 107 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: And that sounds simple, but the reality is, as I 108 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: always say internally, UH, the idea of international as a 109 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: single word is the greatest misnomer. UM. You know, this 110 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: is a collection of very different, very diverse, very rich 111 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: markets UM. Uh, and everyone is a little bit different. 112 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: Number one. Number two is UM you know. I think 113 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: what we see as part of our differentiation also compared 114 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: to others in the industry, is we've been at this 115 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: in producing not just great US content that obviously travels, 116 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: but we've been producing great local content in many of 117 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: the biggest markets there for decades. And so we have 118 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: a very unique combination of great international and US created 119 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: UH stories that travel and great local stories. And that 120 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: combination of great international and great local to US is 121 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: sort of the secret sauce that differentiates UM. A Discovery 122 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Warner proposition, uh, compared to some of the others that 123 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: may be more just dominant US lead content offerings, and 124 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the reality is to scale and a lot of these markets, 125 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: the US content is you know, very valuable, and that 126 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: d libraries incredibly valuable, and in the genres traditional genres 127 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: of discovery, UH, a lot of those stories are truly universal, 128 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: which is one of the great things that has allowed 129 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: us to expand and become the leading global media company. 130 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Is you know, comedy isn't, as an example, is a 131 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: lot harder because comedy is much more national, much more local, uh, 132 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: and so doesn't necessarily travel as well. But stories about adventures, survival, lifestyle, um, 133 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: you know, uh, true crime, even you know, these are 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: genres that that are truly stories that resonate everywhere, and 135 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: so that is one of the great uniqueness. So not 136 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: one size fits all. You gotta tailor to the market, 137 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: and you've gotta have infrastructure on the ground. And I 138 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: think one of the other things that we've done over 139 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: these years is we've got people and teams that know 140 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the local markets, that know the marketing app channels, and 141 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: know the production communities are producing stories um and close 142 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: to the greatest storytellers and all these markets. And we 143 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: are in a period also where content is traveling and 144 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: actually real credit to Netflix on this one, which is 145 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: really sort of flatten the world from a consumption standpoint 146 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: of international global content UM and great stories can come 147 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: from anywhere, and we think that again on this journey. 148 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: We're incredibly well positioned because we have decades worth of 149 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: storytelling at the international and local at the U S 150 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: and local international markets level, and we're looking forward to 151 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: bring that together as we roll out Discovery Plus and 152 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: as we figure out how best to bring this to 153 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: market in the in the Discovery Warner context. As the 154 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: delayed Tokyo Games get underway, how do you feel about 155 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: your investment in them and how you know, especially under 156 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: the kind of extraordinary circumstances that the Tokyo Games are 157 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: gonna unfold, how do you feel about that as an 158 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: investment for Eurosport? Right now, the Olympics are truly the 159 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: greatest event in the world um and then there's no 160 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: there's no bigger event in in media on a global 161 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: scale in the Olympics and the history of the Olympics, 162 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: if you look back over the last several ones, is 163 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: every games has a different narrative challenge building up to 164 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the Games, whether it be doping or you know, the 165 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: preparations and the issues around real prep, and you know 166 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: Athens had a lot of the prep issues. And one 167 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: thing that's been consistent, a lot of that conversation happens 168 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: building up to the games, a lot of noise, a 169 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of questions. Obviously, this one is not immune to 170 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: that either, with this unique COVID environment that we're all 171 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: fighting through. But the same one very important rule is 172 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: true in every single one of those cases. The minute 173 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: the flame gets lit, which as you said, has just 174 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: happened today, the focus turns to the athletes and the 175 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: incredible stories of these people who have persevered, particularly in 176 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: these last two years amidst you know, all the prep 177 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: they did, the postponement at retraining, retraining in very difficult situations. Obviously, 178 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: and while yes, the current one will be unique in 179 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: terms of obviously no crowds and limitations, but the flip 180 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: side is the great thing about the Olympics, which is 181 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: these unbelievable stories of human achievement UH and perseverance and 182 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: UH are going to be more true than ever in 183 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: the Tokyo Games and so UM we're excited to bring 184 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: those stories to the all the European viewers. We obviously 185 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: will be the home of the Olympics across all of 186 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Europe UM effective now, and we will be providing UH 187 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: and LEANING in as we've launched Discovery Plus UH in 188 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: a handful of European markets. UH. The the only place 189 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: where you'll be able to get every minute of the 190 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: Olympics live will be on Discovery Plus in the UK, 191 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: the Nordics, Netherlands, Italy, UM, UH and and UH. And 192 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: then in markets where we haven't yet launched on Eurosport Player, 193 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: we'll have every moment in the Olympics live. And so 194 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: we have a unique proposition that we're excited to bring 195 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: the fans across Europe UM and we we're we're very 196 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: confident that it will continue to be a great event 197 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: that will unify the world and the frankly, the world 198 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: right now needs great stories to bring us together and 199 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: that show the resilience and the accomplishments of of humanity. 200 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: So the positives I think is meant to be the 201 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: sort of hallmark of of of these Tokyo Games at 202 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: these critical time. UM Sports, as you said, is a 203 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: complicated business. UM. But the flip side is, UH, what 204 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: we've also done as you've seen this so slight change 205 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: in our evolution is as we're rolling out Discovery Plus, 206 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Sports and Entertainment, we'll sit together in the product UM 207 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: And just to be clear, Eurosport is going to be 208 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: integrated into the Discovery Plus platform. That's right. So it 209 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: are in the markets I describe before, it already is 210 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: essentially rolled into the Discovery Plus offering, so you can 211 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: have entertainment and you can have entertainment and sports. And 212 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: as we roll out Discovery Plus and more markets, the 213 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: same will be true across Europe, where you'll be basically 214 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: having one product. Back to the conversation we had earlier 215 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: about simplicity and choice, UH, that's kind of our north star, 216 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: focused on the customer and the consumer interests, and we 217 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: think the simplicity and choice and bringing that together in 218 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: one product in one offering and allowing people to actually 219 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: enjoy the best of entertainment and real life entertainment, but 220 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: also be able to actually watch some of the premier 221 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: sporting events in the world, all within the same product offering, 222 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: UH is ever more compelling and so UM we're going 223 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: to continue to lean into it. We have a number 224 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: of different sports rights across Europe and we're into we're 225 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: really folk based on rolling the great eurosport and sports 226 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: content overall into the Discovery Plus offering for consumers. So 227 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: you have to be I mean the timing of these 228 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: delayed games. At the time that you're rolling out Discovery Plus, 229 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: you have Olympics as a very strong you know, almost 230 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: your your burker is the Olympics rights that are Can 231 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: you talk about how how you have sliced up those rights? 232 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: How are you presenting them on Eurosport So um, we 233 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: obviously have certain obligations with the IOC for a certain 234 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: amount of free to air coverage, which we do either 235 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: on our own channels or with sub licensed partners in 236 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: individual markets. UM. But as I mentioned earlier, the key thing, 237 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: UH will be that really Discovery Plus and Eurosport Player 238 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: in the markets were Discovery Plus is not yet available, 239 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: will be the only place that you can get every 240 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: single minute live. So if you know there's over three 241 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: thousand live event hours uh of the Olympics in the summer, 242 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: um and the only place where you can literally if 243 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: you're a fan of the sports and you don't want 244 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: to necessarily figure out, you know, what's on here, what's 245 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: on there? You know you through the Discovery Plus subscription 246 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: or U Sport Player subscription, you don't have to think 247 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: of any of that. It will be personalized, tailored to you, 248 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and you have every minute of the games which you 249 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: can access um live through uh either either service. And 250 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: as we get to Beijing, which is obviously in the 251 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: winter and six months away and has been prepared for Paris, 252 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: which will be a huge homecoming of the Games across Europe, 253 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: and by that point in time, we obviously will be 254 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: much further along in terms of rolling out Discovery Plus 255 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. The subsequent product at that point will be 256 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: um we uh we. We can't wait to use this 257 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: incredible event to bring more and more people into the 258 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: tent and into the fold and experience not just the 259 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: games but all the other content that will come with it, 260 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: uh uniquely on on our Discovery class and streaming platform. 261 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: And do you there, the excitement level and the buzz 262 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: and the traction is enough to get you the sponsorship 263 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: and they get the traction in the revenue generating areas 264 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: that you need to justify the rights of fees like 265 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: you feel like this has been a good investment for Eurosport. Absolutely, 266 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean it is. There's look, as we were talking 267 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: about it's it is. Sports is an expensive proposition by 268 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: its nature, but it's also a beacon, uh and a 269 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: as David Zaslow says, in terms of, you know, thinking 270 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: about stuff in the subscription world where people will pay 271 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: for it before they'll pay for dinner, sports is at 272 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: the very top of that pyramid because it draws a 273 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: passion and an interest that is almost like nothing else 274 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: in the world. And so it's a very powerful tool. Um. 275 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: And we're excited to have the pre eminent event uh 276 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: for Tokyo, for Beijing and then on to Paris to 277 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: help us on this journey continue to scale and get 278 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: Discovery Plus in front of more and more audience and 279 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: consumers over the next you know, two or three years, 280 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: how much you talked about the need for tailoring and 281 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: customizing for individual markets. I imagine that you're doing that 282 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: for the within the Discovery Plus platform as well. Or 283 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: is that more of a uniform offering now it's all 284 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: very customized because Uh, at the end of the day, again, 285 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: in every market, we have a combination of what will 286 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: be consistent is sort of the deep and rich library 287 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: of US LED content will be available on all the 288 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: different platforms. But what is different in every market is 289 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: UH the other part of the equation, which is the 290 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: great local content. And so whether you're you know, in 291 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: UH in Norway and all of our great Norwegian series 292 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: and comedies, etcetera that will complement the service, or in 293 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Italy with all the great Italian content and the years 294 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: of of US being the number three broadcaster there and 295 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: being able to provide all the content provide war. If 296 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: you're in Brazil UH and you have all of our 297 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: local Brazilian content that we commission UH, it will be 298 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: a a. And then again, sports obviously is a layer 299 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: on top. So it's not a uniform global offering other 300 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: than the kind of core elements of it. In terms 301 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: of the US LED UH factual programming. UH is consistent 302 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: UH generally everywhere in terms of its offering, but it's 303 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: then supplemented with incredibly strong local entertainment content, local factual 304 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: content and sports in select markets don't go anywhere. We'll 305 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: be right back with more from Discovery International CEO J. B. Perrett, 306 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: and we're back with more from Discovery International CEO J B. 307 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Per Where do you see either areas for expansion for 308 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: you or areas markets where you see real growth? Where 309 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: do you see opportunity right now? Internationally? I think there's 310 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: a couple of different areas that if you think about it, 311 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: UM there are still as a percentage, you know, we 312 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: think of the US UM and and pay TV penetration 313 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: in the US, which obviously had hit you at its 314 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: peak five you know, almost ninety and has obviously come 315 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: down a bit, but streaming is sort of a different 316 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: version of it's still pay television in outside of outside 317 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: of the US, there are many many big markets, take 318 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: Italy as an example, where uh the entry price of 319 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: traditional package of PayTV yet sort of forty dollars plus 320 00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: or fifty dollars plus has uh capped the the potential 321 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: and where penetration of that kind of an offering has been, 322 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, not more than at its peak. And so 323 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: you have of the audience and the customer base that 324 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: UM just never found that compelling enough and the price 325 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: point may be too high as an entry price point 326 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: for them to experiment in some of the premium content, 327 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: and so our ability to take our product offering and 328 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: sort of this uh in this you know, five to 329 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: seven dollar price range um uh and bring it to 330 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: market with partners like Telecom Italia the mobile partner like 331 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: a Vota phone UM and bring their enormous mobile bases 332 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: which are you know, in some cases ten x the 333 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: size of the traditional PayTV universe. We have an enormously 334 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: bigger serviceable addressable market number one and number two, we 335 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: have an tree price point and a package uh and 336 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: a service offering that is way more compelling at a 337 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: price point that's way more attractive for people to experiment 338 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: and get in with than historically what was priced that 339 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, again ten x higher than where we are. 340 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: So for us, that's probably the single biggest opportunity is 341 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: getting more people uh exposed to our content with a 342 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: great new product um and user experience that they can 343 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, enjoy uh on their own schedule and on 344 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: their own time UH and uh, and working with partners 345 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: who can help deliver that too. Uh. You know, hundreds 346 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: of millions of more users than we ever were historically 347 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: when we were you know, sort of stuck in the 348 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: higher priced PayTV packages and bundles, which are still compelling 349 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: by the way for a certain customers segment. So I know, 350 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: oftentimes this is sort of made into a debate of 351 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, does pay TV die and streaming win. Our 352 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: view is look over the decades when pay television originally 353 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: came out in the eighties, people, and then in the 354 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: nineties started to get traction, people settling broadcast is gonna die, 355 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: and broadcast is still alive and and well, and yes, 356 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: audiences just shifted, but it's still a pretty healthy business 357 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: and has made you know, a ton of money over 358 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: the years, um. And so for us, it's not about 359 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: the death of one and the survival of another, but 360 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: it's about geography shifts, and we like this idea of 361 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: being able to superserve customers, some of whom will want 362 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: to continue to watch linear channels. Maybe those are slightly 363 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, an older demographic, UM, but we don't want 364 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: to exclude them. And so the linear channels are still 365 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: important in that respect. H and free to air is 366 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: still valuable from that respect and gives us also a 367 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: great marketing and promotional channel to drive these other products. 368 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: Pay TV is still vibrant and healthy. And then we 369 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: have this whole new uh customer segment that does want 370 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: UH have access on a direct a consumer basis and 371 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: a more flexible uh kind of ability to choose smaller 372 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: packages of their liking. And that's a whole new customer 373 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: segment for us to go after, and frankly a bigger 374 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: one given the scale that we just talked about of 375 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: of people who might be interested in that at that 376 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: price point versus the higher price you know, bigger bundles. 377 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: Um JP. Tell me a little bit about yourself. How 378 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: did you get into the business of international television. Where 379 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: did you grow up? So? I I I'm I'm a hybrid. 380 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: So my father's French, my mother's American, UM, hence the 381 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: accents American, and the name is French. UM. I grew 382 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: up in uh in New York mostly New York City, 383 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: was born and raised in New York City. UM in Manhattan, 384 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: which people sort have always sometimes scratched theirhead and didn't 385 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: realize that people actually do grow up and live in Manhattan. 386 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Are born and raised in Manhattan. Uh. And my father 387 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: is from Brittany in the northwest part of France, and 388 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: so I have very strong ties there and it's about 389 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: everything summer of my life. Uh there Uh, so I'm 390 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: sort of by I'm a different Bi coastal uh, East 391 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: coast and and and French coast um. UH. And I 392 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: I came in um to the media business in in 393 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: two thousand UM, starting at NBC in business development and 394 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: then has spent the last you know, over two decades 395 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: of working here. And I've had the great privilege early 396 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: on in my career at NBC of coming uh into 397 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: contact with David Zaslow UH and UH have been a 398 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: huge fan and he's been an enormous uh not just 399 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: UH you know, mentor and UH guide, but somebody I've 400 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: learned a ton from and obviously respected from very early 401 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: on and had the great privilege of working with him 402 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: for the last two decades UM. And so UH that's 403 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: been a huge obviously part of my journey. UH. And 404 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: I took this job and I joined Discovery in two 405 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, UH and took this job in two 406 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. UM. And then one other note I'd say 407 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: is which I think back to this sort of evolution 408 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: of the industries, you know, back in two thousand six 409 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: when David and I actually when David was still at NBC, 410 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: we had just finished actually the the the Torino Games Olympics, 411 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: and there was this little thing called YouTube that was 412 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: starting to take off in a major way and had 413 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: taken off with a lot of clips from that time 414 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live exactly but clearly showed the appetite and 415 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: the desire from the consumers to access this stuff. And uh, 416 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, Google bought it for a billion six I 417 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: think it was at the time, and David and I 418 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: looked at each other and said, you know, why can't 419 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: we do this? Um, And that was the beginning of 420 00:25:53,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: our conversations around trying to create what then later became Hulu. Uh. 421 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: And we went around and talked to all the different 422 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: partners and it turned out that Fox and some of 423 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: the others have been talking about something similar. And you know, 424 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: despite the fact that media joint ventures have a graveyard 425 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: that is very, very large. UM, we thought it was 426 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: compelling enough that we should try and pull it off. 427 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously I think two lessons there is 428 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: number one. We're always focused on, you know, uh, if 429 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: the consumer, if there's a consumer demand and interest, you 430 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: gotta need to try and figure out how you fulfill it, because, 431 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: particularly in the digital age, if you don't fulfill that 432 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: somebody else will and it may not be legitimate um 433 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: in many cases. And so being really kind of consumer 434 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: focused was an early indicator there. Uh. And second point 435 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: is that you know it's an evolution still because when 436 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: I think back to we did that, we finally made 437 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: the joint venture happen and launched in two thousand seven, 438 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's approaching fifteen years ago. And you know, 439 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: so much has evolved in the fifteen years, but fifteen 440 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: years a long time, and yet I feel like we're 441 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: still in the infancy of this of this new era. 442 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: And despite the fact that people were talking about streaming 443 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: wars and all this, you know, we've got there's a 444 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: long way to go still in the evolution. And when 445 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: you think about it, particularly on a global level, not 446 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: just a US lens, but a global lens, there are 447 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: plenty of territories where it's just it's the early innings 448 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: of this streaming game. And uh, I must say, I 449 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: can't wait. When you look at the lineup and the 450 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: content offering and the potential of what the Warner and 451 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: Discovery combination can bring. Um, you know, I think there's 452 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: without question we can be one of the top three 453 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: leaders in this streaming space over time as these two 454 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: companies come together, and I think that's the incredibly exciting 455 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: potential that that we're getting more and more excited about 456 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: every day. Thanks for listening. Be sure to leave us 457 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: a review at Apple Podcasts. We love to hear from listeners, 458 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: and be sure to tune in next week for another 459 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: episode of Strictly Business