WEBVTT - SEC & Big Ten Reality + Sark vs Texas Tech 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:16.799 You know what hurts me a lot is when you 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.080 have a friend and then you have another friend, and 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.480 then those two friends are fighting because it's like they 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.600 want you to choose a side. And even if they 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.120 don't ask you to choose a side, you fear the 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.600 inevitable is they're going to ask you to choose a side. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.440 And you know, that's kind of where we are Jesse 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:33.959 with Sark and Joey Maguire right now, friends of the program, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.080 and I just hope they don't make us choose sides. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.200 What we are going to choose to do is talk 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.440 about this little lone star spat could be the name 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.680 of a future rivalry game. Sounds corporate enough, so we'll 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.640 talk about that. Were jam Pack. We're high top a 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.279 pretty stormy downtown Nashville, Tennessee, on this Sunday night, May 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.400 thirty first, the Year of Our Lord twoenty twenty six. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.080 We're kind of trying to walk a tight rope, as 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.000 I vowed to you that I would walk in the 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.960 Year of Our Lord two thousand and twenty six, about 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:06.080 not letting the show slash my mood take a negative turn, 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.640 as it can do in May and June when there's 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:13.480 no games happening, and we're after spring and we're before 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.520 media days, and everyone's just got to find something to 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.280 talk about. So if people stir things up, couldn't be us. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.960 We just react to the stirring, but we don't contribute 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.760 to the stirring. So far, we've done I think a 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.000 solid B plus job of that this year, and I'm 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.720 trying to maintain. So we're gonna talk about some conference 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.600 superiority stuff tonight. We're gonna have some Bowl predictions on 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.760 the show. Somebody asked a question about Alabama's aura, and 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.640 we will talk about that. We got Steve Sarkis and 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.640 Joy maguire sniping a little bit, and as someone who 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.240 has recently sat down with one and may just sit 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.880 down with the other within the week, I will comment 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.120 on the goings on out there in Texas, and I will, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.960 and I mean ever so briefly touch on this whole 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.200 Senate bill. There are some things you need to know, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:09.600 and I will tell you they're watching us in Mayra, Texas, Omaha, Nebraska, Bogata, Columbia. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.360 Checked then in the live chat and slidell Louisiana. Thank 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.440 you so much. I say thank you every time, but 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.480 it's not in the script. I mean it. Thank you. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.680 We get to do this year round. I'm not forced 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.600 to talk Spurs Nicks, not that there's anything wrong with that, 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.000 but we just get to talk college football year round, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.440 and that's all we do because that's really what we're 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.480 passionate about around here, and it's because of you. So 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.200 just one small request, if you're not already subscribed to 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.799 the channel, subscribe to the channel, because that is how 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.880 we keep this show the way we want it. By we, 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.080 I mean you and I because if you're here, I 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.920 presume that you want college football year round as well. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.840 Big week for the Speaker series because there have been 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.880 some allegations thrown around about us in the past. You know, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.760 about whether G five Josh is dead, Jesse. Some people 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.600 think G five Josh is dead, and I've told you 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.160 five Josh is not dead slash G six Josh. But 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.160 you know what we'll find out this week. We'll find 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.200 out this week. In the meantime, let's dive into the mailbag. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.040 Sometimes we go mailbag to lead the show off, and 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.160 one of you, you were noticing some things this week 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:16.760 about some comments that had come out of these various 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.760 spring meetings. So Josh from Miami, Florida, said, did you 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.239 see where Brett McMurphy had a poll where the SEC 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.160 and the Big Ten are basically even in terms of 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:31.880 being the number one conference? What says you? Well, the 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.040 first thing I say, Josh is have you talked to 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.880 Jesse and has Jesse told you that we have proof 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.880 that this pole even happened? I mean, do we know 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.200 that the poll exists? Okay, well, let's take a look 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.520 at the poll them because I've got I gotta see 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.280 the wording from myself. Not that I'm calling you a liar, Josh, 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.040 but I gotta see the wording. So Brett McMurphy's wording 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.320 was SEC Commission Greg Sanki said the SEC is quote 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.240 by far the strongest football league unquote. Do you agree 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:03.000 which conference is the strongest football league? That was a 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:08.800 poll question from Brett McMurphy, friend of the program. The SEC, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.760 by zero point one percentage points ends up taking the 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.480 number one spot. So you're asking, Josh, do I agree 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.960 with these results? No? I don't. The Big Ten's the 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.839 best conference in college football right now, So I would 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.480 have voted Big Ten. It turns out my vote would 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.919 have tied it up, so my apologies to everyone, and 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.320 then we would have gone to a runoff, and I 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.880 don't even know how that works in Twitter poll. So yeah, 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:33.560 the Big Ten's is the best conference in college football 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.680 right now. So no, I don't agree with the Twitter 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.600 poll results. Now, what Brett McMurphy said there, as you'll notice, 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:45.000 is by far the strongest football league. Well those weren't 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.760 his words, those were the words of the SEC commissioner. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.200 So I'll get to that in a second. But look, 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.640 let's just rerack the balls here for a second. No immunity. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.359 I know what the argument for the SEC is. I 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.159 make it a lot of times on this show. But 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.800 I'm not talking about conference superiority. But even even if 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.480 I was, like if I had to take the side 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.920 of the SEC, I just talked about conference depth, which 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.680 is the same thing Greg Sinkie's talked about. But nobody 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.400 judges leagues from the middle of the pack. Like, let's 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.760 be real, now, if the SEC was in the Big 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.400 TENHS position, all you guys would be banging the drum 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:20.880 of Ohio State, Michigan, and Indiana past three national champs. 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:24.800 That's how you judge conferences now, It would be different 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.640 if it was one team, if it was Ohio State 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.640 that had won back to back to back titles and 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.800 everyone else sucked, that's a little bit different. But having 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.120 three different teams win three different national championships over the 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.120 last three years, and then you got Oregon sitting there 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.520 as a prime candidate to maybe make it a fourth 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.800 and four years. For all we know this year, Yes, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:50.080 that's the best conference in college football. We don't really 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.919 need to argue how Vanderbilt stacks up against Iowa or 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.920 Michigan State, all due respect, but if you did want 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.480 to argue conference depth, yeah, I do think that's a 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.840 little different conversation. But I do want to go back 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.600 to what Greg SANKI was talking about because I do 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.560 think there's some different layers to this. Okay, so I've 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.040 already answered the question Big Ten's the best conference in 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:15.760 college football. But Brett McMurphy put up this Greg sank quote. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.839 This is from SEC spring meetings about a week ago. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.400 This was a quote from the league commissioner. He said, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.200 if you look at the entirety of our football league, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.279 we are by far the most competitive and the strongest 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.719 in football by far. The depth of this league. This 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.240 league stands alone. I don't have a huge issue with 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.760 most of what he said there. It really is all 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.760 in the eyes of the beholder. Conference superiority, as Memo 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.240 once said, is in the eyes of the beholder. If 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.360 best means deepest to you, the SEC is the best 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.159 in college football. I choose to look at the top, 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.960 and at the top, the Big ten's the best, and 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.400 I think disproportionately, that's how most people, including me, judge 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.560 best conferences. So it's the Big Ten for me. However, 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.240 if you then want to remove it a little bit 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.039 and go with all these different qualifiers, like you want 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:11.360 to ask about the most entertaining league, the most parody 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.720 wrought league, the most competitively balanced league, Well, I would 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.360 actually argue the Big twelve has been the most competitively 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.000 balanced for a little while. But you know, comparing these 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.080 two leagues, yeah, the SEC. I think the bottom of 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:28.320 the SEC is probably ahead of the bottom third or 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.680 pybly a bottom quarter of the Big Ten. You can 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.680 make that argument. I wouldn't really mind that a whole lot. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.200 I don't really think it matters, although it could be 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.440 argued that it matters when it comes to strength of schedule, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.240 So if you want to argue the strength of conference 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.880 schedules are tougher than the SEC, that's fine. If you 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.600 want to argue that the overall lineup of games is 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:50.880 more appealing and more entertaining on a Saturday, these sound like, oh, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.920 I don't know what you would call them. They sound 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.800 like backup arguments when you can't tout the main argument, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.480 which is just we're the best at the top. But 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.280 if that's the route you want to go, then I'm 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:03.320 happy to agree with you on that, just as long 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.440 as you circle back around and acknowledge why you've resorted 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.600 to that, Because, Jesse, what I noticed when the SEC 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:13.320 was running off that string of consecutive national championships is 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.559 no one was talking about the things they're talking about now. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.760 So you're having to resort to these things, which is fine, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.840 but let's just make sure we tell the truth about that. However, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:27.600 it is truth. It is definitely truth about the entertainment aspect. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.360 Like I work in the media business, so I pay 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.160 a little more attention to this than I talk about 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.199 on the show. But I remember when we were at CBS, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.520 still in the latter days, maybe like the last year, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.120 when I was at CBS. I was so mad that 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.080 they didn't even put a competitive bid on the table 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:51.120 for the SEC contract and ESPN got the whole thing, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.839 and they didn't make a serious run at that. I 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.119 don't even think they submitted a bid for the playoffs. 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.800 And I was mad about that because I wanted to 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.840 be network that had the most valuable inventory. And so, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.240 you know, I'm not at CBS anymore. But obviously CBS 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.360 has a deal. They get a package of Big Ten games. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.200 NBC's kind of got something similar. You know that Fox 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.000 has the number one game per week from the Big Ten, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.920 but man, some of those some of those lineups are sparse, 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.160 and Fox gets first pick. But even with Fox, like 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.320 the Big Ten does not really schedule up all that 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.280 much in out of conference play early in the year. 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.960 Ohio State, notwithstanding, they played Texas this year, last year, 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.920 Michigan's played Oklahoma this year last year. But there aren't 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.240 a ton of marquee matchups as evidenced by the Big 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.320 Noon on Fox. The Big Noon kickoff lineup came out 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.680 the other day. Jesse, I think Kent State's on there, right, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:51.160 and Ohio's on there? Who is it? It's it's North Texas, Indiana, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.839 and then they got a huge one in ann Arbor 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.560 in week two of Oklahoma and Michigan, and then it's 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.199 Kent State, Ohio State. It's just not a lot to 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.760 choose from. And then you look at those lineups, those 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.199 triple hitters that ABC gets to stack up. So yeah, man, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.520 if you wanted to talk about ratings, I don't care. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.520 But if you want to talk about that, and you 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.800 want to talk about entertaining top to bottom and keeps 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:17.880 you tuned in, great, okay, advantage SEC. I'm pretty sure 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:19.960 that conference are traded in a heartbeat right now if 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.880 they could have back to back to back national titles. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.400 So I don't really know what the end result of 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.160 that argument is. Here's my question, how long does this 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.439 status quo last? How long do we continue to look 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.680 at this picture and say, well, the SEC may be 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.240 the deepest conference, but man, the Big ten's the best 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.000 at the top. Is that just something that starts to 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.120 become a trend that's a constant over the next five 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.000 years or is it just that? Is it a trend 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.080 right now? Is it cyclical? Is there like an ebb 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:52.840 to the flow? What could happen which I would laugh 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.920 at is someone like Texas any given year, Let's say 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.480 twenty twenty six. Let's say Texas just rattles off dominant 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.320 season this year and they win the national title, but 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:08.200 elsewhere nobody else in the SEC even sniffed it. What 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.080 would be funny is everybody who thinks national titles are 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:13.840 the end all be all would look and say, well, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.560 I guess the SEC reigns supreme now, and you'd have 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.040 other people look and say, well, in totality, the league 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.000 was worse this year than it has been in recent years. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.520 So yeah, there's context that has to be added. I 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.600 get all of it. Here's what I do know. I've 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.400 never seen the SEC take the field. I've never seen 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.120 the Big Ten take the field. I've seen Georgia take 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.840 the field. I've seen Penn State take the field. So 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.840 I kind of choose to discuss it like that. But 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.040 I understand that doesn't look as good on the thumbnail, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.520 and I understand we don't get nearly as many questions 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.920 in the inbox about that. Let us move on. Eleven minutes, 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.920 Jesse not one of those thirty minute specials for the 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:53.600 A Bloc tonight. So there's been there's been some argument. 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.920 There's been some some chirping back and forth. James from Midland, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.880 Texas hit me and said, Sark calls out Texas Tech schedule, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.079 and Joey Maguire then says, play us, you coward, and 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.640 now crickets. Is Sark running away from a check his 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:14.920 mouth could in cash beautifully worded question. I assume most 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.360 of you know what James is talking about, but if 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:22.439 you don't, Sark was I believe the Houston Touchdown Club. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.360 I want to say that's where he was recently, and 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.680 he made a comment, truthfully that he made to me 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.400 a month ago, but it was off the record, so 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.680 I didn't run my mouth about it. But then Sark 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.679 chose to say it publicly. So whatever, it's his belief 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.160 that his backups could go undefeated against Texas Tech schedule. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.240 Now it is important to note what he did not say, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.559 because here's what he did say. I'm about to read it, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.959 but let's just make sure because we had a lot 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.920 of questions in the inbox asking me about what he 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.320 did not say. And what he did not say is 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.000 they could beat Texas Tech with their backups. Okay, because 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.240 a lot of you heard it wrong, So I did 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.160 not put those on the air. I put that question 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.720 on the air because that question was worded correctly. Here's 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.840 what sark did say. There is a team in our 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.600 state that plays in another conference that has a schedule 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.240 that I would argue if I played with our twos 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.120 in our threes, we could go undefeated and they'll probably 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.840 make the playoff this year. He's talking about Texas Tech. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.839 All right, I'll give you my take on that in 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.360 a second. But then the rest of the story is 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.760 all Paul Harvey would say. Once upon a time when 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.040 I was a youth in Georgia was Joey McGuire was 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.800 not going to sit still and take that. And so 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.199 word got to Joey McGuire and Joey McGuire, I think 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.319 was at Big twelve Spring meetings, which has not become 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.520 a full on circus like the SECS has as of yet, 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.840 and Joey McGuire decided to do what people in West 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.080 Texas do. You take a shot at him. That's fine, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.839 but they're probably going to return serve at the very least. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:14:00.160 So here was Joey McGuire's response to Steve Sarkesian's quote. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.360 And I said, there's no way they're talking about us, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.640 because Sarks a pretty tough guys. Teams are really tough, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.520 and I would think that if he was talking about us, 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.920 that he would call us out, like he wouldn't just say, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.040 you know, just kind of this comment of well, there's 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.320 another team in our state, and so I guess he 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.360 was talking about us. So I've actually talked to Keith 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.720 Patterson and I've talked to GJ. Kenny, and they're willing 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:33.800 to take our games and Aveline Christian will go to 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:38.640 Texas State. We'll buy our contract out of Ablene Christian. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.880 I'm sure because Texas has got a lot of money, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.680 they can buy their contract out. But I do know 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.600 there's a lot of Red Raiders that will help them 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.680 buy that contract out if they don't want to. And 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.400 they can come to Love a week one and you know, 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.680 we can figure out if they're twos and threes can 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:57.920 win this conference. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.840 I know not everyone's a body language expert, but if 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.440 you are a body language expert, rich rod rig has 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.760 actually had the best quote in that whole sound bite, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.520 but he didn't open his mouth, but if you can 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.760 read body language, rich rod said a ton. He was 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.960 just kind of seeded off to the immediate left of 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.200 Joey McGuire stage right. I guess so that was great. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.440 We need to get rich Rod's thoughts on that, because 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.760 I don't think he's commented on it publicly. Look, that 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.440 is Joey McGuire. That's the entire attitude of Texas Tech. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:34.320 Texas Tech has either become the heel athletic department in 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.440 college football or the biggest babyface athletic department in college football, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.400 depending on your point of view. Either way, it's wonderful 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.000 to me because I go back to a couple of 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:49.680 beliefs I have about sports, college football included, not everybody 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.640 has to like each other. In fact, I encourage this 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.720 kind of environment as a child of the spur Your era. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.000 I encourage an environment where everyone doesn't get along and 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.920 everyone's not concerned with hurting someone else's feelings. This time 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.520 of year, especially, you want to take a shot at someone, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.000 Take a shot at someone. I don't care they're going 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.040 to have a microphone because everyone does now, and they're 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.800 gonna get to take a shot back at you. But 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.200 if the worst thing in the world is that the 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.640 head coach at Texas Tech and the head coach at 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.520 Texas aren't getting along. If the worst thing in the 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.680 world is people in West Texas and people in Austin, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.400 Texas figure out we don't have a whole heck of 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.480 a lot in common, which is not breaking news, by 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.640 the way, then I'm happy to live in that world. Frankly, 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.880 it had gotten a little too cushy in hear from 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.800 my liking anyway. Too many people just want to be friends. Look, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.840 you want a friend, go to the playground. This is 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.560 college football, this is major major collegiate athletics. This is 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.200 not the worst thing in the world. Okay, So that's 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.960 the first thing. The second thing is that is the 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.720 attitude Joey maguire should have. And of course the scheduling 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.080 challenge is not going to be I think Texas has 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.920 the toughest schedule in the country this year. They caught 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.440 him in a perfect spot. It's just a little chess 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.760 move by Joey McGuire. There. Sark ran his mouth a 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.119 little bit and I'm gonna address what he said in 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.280 a second, and Joey McGuire heard it and said, you 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.560 know what, let's throw out a challenge. We know that 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.840 they're not going to accept we'd be happy to play them. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.320 Texas has no illusions of adding to what is already 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.640 probably the toughest schedule in the country. So, like you knew, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.879 it was a risk free shot back. But the overarching 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.520 I guess story here is Texas Tech could be happy 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.120 to join the SEC if the SEC called and invited him, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:43.240 but that call's not coming. So Texas Tech plays the 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.040 hand that's dealt to them every year. They can only 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.880 play the schedule they play, and they play it last 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.480 year very effectively, and they'll probably play it very effectively 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.520 this year. And that's whether or without Breton Soresby at quarterback. 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.800 But here's the other part of it, all right, So 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.119 Joey McGuire, I'm not mad at him because Joey MacGuire 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.959 probably handled it exactly as I would. And then on 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:07.400 the flip side, I don't think Sark's even wrong, which 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.600 is the crazy part. So here's a little backstory. When 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.720 I was out in Austin last month, we did to 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.480 sit down with Sark. I hung out with him for 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.840 a little while afterwards, and we got to talking about 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.199 things of this nature. Okay, So the part of the 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.880 conversation that's no longer privileged is the part he went 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:29.080 public with. So he rattles that off. He says, man, 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.360 I really believe our twos could go undefeated against Texas 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.800 Tech schedule, and that's a power force schedule. What we 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.840 were talking about was the great disparity in strength of 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.159 schedule in this sport. Okay, So I shot back and 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:48.240 I said, you have the opportunity, you slash. You had 0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:51.239 the opportunity to play Texas Tech schedule every year. It 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.160 was called staying in the Big twelve. But you guys 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.720 didn't want to do that. What in Sark's decision. But 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.400 they didn't want to do that. They wanted to come 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:01.159 to the SEC. So to whom much more is given, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.600 much more is going to be asked. So we have 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.040 all that, and everyone understands that's the world we live in. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.640 But I don't even think he's wrong. Now, you can't 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.480 prove a counterfactual. So Texas's backups are not going to 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.360 play Texas Tech schedule, and so we don't know how 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.399 they would do. I will say, if we went to 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.600 FanDuel Mic right now and had the traders over their 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.640 work up hypothetical lines for whatever that's worth, Yeah, they'd 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:30.520 probably be favored in most of these games Texas's backups. Yeah, 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.600 whatever that's worth is whatever that's worth. Obviously, the overarching 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.560 point he's trying to make is they were sitting there 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.679 with three losses last year, and they firmly believed that 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:45.399 they were a prisoner of scheduling up scheduling Ohio State 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.840 out of conference, not to mention playing a full SEC slate. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.160 Opponents to that theory would say, you didn't get punished 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.879 for playing Ohio State. You got punished for losing to 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.280 a really bad Florida team. And then I think the 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.040 deeper dive there and the the opinion that I have 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.000 is I'm not even sure they got totally imprisoned because 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.040 they lost those two games. Jesse. I think the committee 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.280 remembered how they were dead in the watering it's Mississippi State, 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.160 how they struggled to get past Kentucky, and those were 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:17.159 in wins, very close wins. So Texas was not a 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.040 dominant team last year. But Sarks looked, he looks at 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:22.120 it and says, you know what, even if we weren't 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.760 a dominant team, we could have scheduled cream puffs and 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.719 just skated by on the strength of our conference schedule, 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.560 we would have been a playoff team. We got punished 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.720 for scheduling up in his point is, and it's not 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.560 entirely unfounded. Is there a lot of other P four 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.080 schedules out there? We'd probably go undefeated against and we'd 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.960 be the same team in both scenarios, but we'd be 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.320 left out in one and we'd be in the playoff 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.960 in the other. Now, to sarks credit, it sounds like 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.919 he's making an argument for playoff expansion there. He's not. 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.399 He's not. And this is where I kid you not. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.280 When I was talking to him, I think my voice 0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.960 raised louder than his did, because this has been one 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.160 of my soapboxes I've been on for a long time. 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.760 Is I don't have a problem with you scheduling really tough. 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.520 I don't have a problem with someone not playing a 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.760 tough schedule as long as we're going to get to 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:15.280 the finish line, and I have committee protocol in place 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.840