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Speaker 2: And welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. And

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Speaker 3: well our number two here, as we've been doing all

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Speaker 3: week long, we will dig into the pro football focused

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Speaker 3: fantasy football rankings. We've done quarterback, we've done running back.

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Speaker 3: We're a wide receiver today. How much that works out?

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Speaker 3: Real quick question for you. Does DK go up?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Does Pickens go up or down?

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Speaker 3: I think now that we know exactly, we'll find out

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Speaker 3: where they haven't ranked here. Yeah, don't talk about it

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Speaker 3: then when we get to those spots. All right, I

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Speaker 3: don't know where he's at. I haven't looked ahead on these.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure this is pre trade that they came

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Speaker 2: out though.

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Speaker 3: So they got Jamar Chase number one and number one overall.

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I mean it wasn't

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Speaker 2: the triple crown last year.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good at two and two overall? Is justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'd take him over Barkley considering

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Speaker 2: the quarterback situation. But I think he averages don't quote me,

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Speaker 2: but I think he averages more yards per game than

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Speaker 2: any wide receiver in NFL history. Pretty good, It's pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this kind of speaks for himself.

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Speaker 3: At four overall in our wide receiver three, Puka and Nakua.

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Speaker 2: Oh I would have Cede Lamb. I would too, He's next.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a top three and then you can

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Speaker 2: fight over who number four is. I can't take Nakupa

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Speaker 2: that he's really productive, he's very productive, but are we

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Speaker 2: forgetting that he missed a bunch of time last year.

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Speaker 2: Adam trusts must stay healthy, and I'm much I think

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Speaker 2: he's really really good. Like, I don't think he's a

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Speaker 2: nice story for a fifth round pick. I think he's

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Speaker 2: one of the top end to twelve best receivers in

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Speaker 2: the game, but Adams is going to hurt him. It's yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean Adams is a legit dude. He's a lot

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Speaker 2: better than the shallow Cooper Cup, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just I don't trust it. Like I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't take him fourth overall, I wouldnt take him fifth over.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'd be my top five receivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it'd be a first rounder for me, but not that

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Speaker 2: would be I'm picking ninth.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta take hope he stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not taking him. I don't think over his style.

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Speaker 3: Will play lends itself to getting.

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Speaker 2: Hurt and they throw him around too. It's part of

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Speaker 2: it's his style play mixed with the offense.

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Speaker 3: Where they throw him the football at oh, he'll.

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Speaker 2: Lock defensive ends and yeah right yeah uh. At six

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Speaker 2: overall and wide receiver for Seed Lamb, I don't think

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Speaker 2: this hurts him at all the trade. I think he'll

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Speaker 2: get higher quality targets, maybe fifteen to twenty less though

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Speaker 2: over the course of the year he's gonna see he's

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Speaker 2: going to get one hundred and fifteen, get a bazillion,

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Speaker 2: and he'll get less doubles. Yeah, I mean, he might

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Speaker 2: have been the most double receiver in the league.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver five and seven overall is a Monross Saint Brown.

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Speaker 2: He's as safe as they come. Yeah, and for that

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Speaker 2: reason I'd have him over Nikua. I still think Lamb's

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Speaker 2: closer to the top two.

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Speaker 3: At ten overall and wide receiver six Nico Collins.

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Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent on board. I also would have

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Speaker 2: him over Nikua. I don't know Nico or Saint Brown.

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Speaker 2: For you, I would probably go Saint Brown, obviously very

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Speaker 2: close by the your tone the area.

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Speaker 3: At twelve overall and wide receiver seven mylik Neighbors. So

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Speaker 3: they're saying there should be seven wide receivers in a

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Speaker 3: twelve team PPR league.

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Speaker 2: This is a problem with that. I mean, his target

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Speaker 2: share was insane when he was healthy last year, same coach,

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Speaker 2: he was getting like forty percent of the targets.

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Speaker 3: At thirteen and wide receiver eight is Brian Thomas. So

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Speaker 3: I think Neighbors and Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I like it new coach, but I think they're gonna

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Speaker 2: use him a little more in the slot from what

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Speaker 2: I understand, which I didn't see coming. But he also

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Speaker 2: has some Mike Evans traits. I don't think Hunter going

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Speaker 3: Right At sixteen overall and wide receiver nine is a J.

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Speaker 2: Brown. This doesn't get the volume. I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't use the sixteenth pick in the draft on

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Speaker 2: Brown. Much as good player love the player, it's unfortunate

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Speaker 2: because he's much better in real life than fantasy. There's

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Speaker 2: like Harley throws ball at all.

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Speaker 3: I would take this next guy over him, even though

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Speaker 3: the quarterback situation is a little Drake London at twenty

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Speaker 2: I would to London's game of talent. Yeah yeah, pits

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Speaker 2: pits and Mooney, you're well down there.

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Speaker 3: This guy would not be my wide receiver eleven or

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Speaker 3: number twenty four. Wide receiver eleven is still.

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Speaker 2: On your on your fantasy disposition is a big time

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Speaker 2: spot t Higgins. It's a little early, but boy, he

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Speaker 2: put up huge numbers even when when they both were healthy.

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Speaker 2: They throw the ball in the right I get it.

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Speaker 3: But there are times where again Burrow just gets eyes

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Speaker 3: for Chase. All he does he does, and you're going

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Speaker 3: watch I'm watching. I had Higgins on my team last year,

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Speaker 3: traded for him, and I'm like, I know he got

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Speaker 3: and there would be games I'm watching the Bengals again,

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Speaker 3: seeing them in person, and I'm like, Higgins is wide

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Speaker 2: I mean, Chase is that good? I get it. Sure,

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Speaker 2: Sure he demands targets, of course.

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Speaker 3: But you're just ignoring T. Higgins for large stretches of

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Speaker 2: Eleven is a little I can't.

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Speaker 3: Go eleven compared to some of these guys who.

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Speaker 2: Are right behind. It's such a competitive position. But I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have him a whole lot lower.

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Speaker 3: At twenty six overall at wide receiver twelve, lad Mconkie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's clearly the one. Yeah, clearly the clear.

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Speaker 3: I can't take somebody's number two receiver is my number

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Speaker 3: one fantasy receiver. Yeah, that's just asking for trouble. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: thirty Wide receiver thirteen is Garrett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to think about him. Love the talent,

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Speaker 2: he's clearly, clearly, clearly the one. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 2: fields is super conducive to great ride receiver play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you could convince me to take him around that neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: At thirty three, Wide receiver fourteen is Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: I'd be scared. I'm more concerned. Yeah, i'd be scared.

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Speaker 3: This next guy should be rated higher. Wide receiver fifteen,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Deebo doesn't worry.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't worry me at all. Like who's catching balls

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Speaker 2: I think that offense is going to be phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: He hit some monster games.

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Speaker 2: If you look at Washington too, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: they remind me the Bengals. Their defense is pretty suspect

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Speaker 2: and old. The offense is loaded, big time quarterback. They

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Speaker 3: At forty two overall wide receiver sixteen Davonte Adams.

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Speaker 2: That's about right. That's this is.

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Speaker 3: More of the area where I would have Higgins at

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Speaker 3: down in this as a number two.

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Speaker 2: Really good number two. Yeah, I'm cool with that.

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Speaker 3: At forty four, Jackson Smith and Jigbow Wide receiver seventeen

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Speaker 2: This is PPR leans more his direction a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of targets.

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Speaker 3: At forty five and wide receiver eighteen is Dj Moore.

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Speaker 2: I'd be a little concerned with that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: At forty six Wide receiver nineteen Mike Evans.

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Speaker 2: Still really good. Baker loves him. They using a lot

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Speaker 3: At forty eight Wide receiver twenty had a sight out

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Speaker 3: of mind is Rashid Rice.

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Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people say and they'd rather

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Speaker 2: have Worthy than Rice. I don't see that at all,

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Speaker 2: especially in PPR. Yeah, Rice is the move, the chains guy.

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Speaker 2: I think Kelsey's roll is going to continue to diminish

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Speaker 3: I mean they'll manufacture some stuff for Worthy just because

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Speaker 3: they want to get the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. But Rice is the number one. He's

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Speaker 2: the chain mover. He's, you know, a physical guy. He

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Speaker 2: was great last year before his injury.

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Speaker 3: At forty nine and wide receiver twenty one is Marvin

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Speaker 2: A bit of a leap of faith, but I guess

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Speaker 2: that's about where he belongs. He could blow up.

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Speaker 3: He was getting drafted ahead of that last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, last year was a little crazy.

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Speaker 3: At fifty wide receiver twenty two Devonte Smith.

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Speaker 2: He would be the last guy we brought up.

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Speaker 3: I can't two receivers out of that. It's the thing

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Speaker 2: They just announced too that they rework Goddard's contract. He's

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Speaker 2: they're going to be It's gonna be hard to feed

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Speaker 3: At fifty one wide receiver twenty three is Teed McMillan.

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Speaker 3: I can't go there. Yeah, that's a leap.

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Speaker 2: Of I mean McMillan vers DeVante Smith. I probably am

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Speaker 2: not buying either at that price. I bet there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be names that come up that are better, but they're

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Speaker 2: definitely the worst two we've mentioned.

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Speaker 3: At fifty two wide receiver twenty four is Xavier Worthy.

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Speaker 2: I'm not totally sold there either. I mean that three

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Speaker 2: jumping jacks for what you have to pay for him.

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Speaker 3: Fifty three wide receiver twenty five is z A. Flowers PPR.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he gets more than he has? Hopkins

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Speaker 2: No, Hopkins doesn't worry me.

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Speaker 3: It's a tight ends and I think he should be

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Speaker 3: a little bit higher than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might take him over all three of those guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At fifty five wide receiver twenty six is Chris Lave.

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Speaker 2: He's even a massive He's like Wilson. He's gonna get

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Speaker 2: a massive target share.

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Speaker 3: I just worry about the concussion stuff.

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Speaker 2: It is a concern.

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Speaker 3: At fifty seven, wide receiver twenty seven is Courtland Sutton.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty productive now, clear number one. There's not much

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Speaker 2: getting in his way. They gave him some money recently.

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Speaker 2: He's not young, but who cares.

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Speaker 3: At fifty eight wide receiver twenty eight is Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to have him on a team. I don't

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Speaker 3: Fifty nine wide receiver twenty nine is Jaylen Waddell.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'd have him higher. I would too. I'd have

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Speaker 3: We get some other teams here lost they still haven't.

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Speaker 3: And sixty two wide receiver thirty is Jordan Addison.

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Speaker 2: He's never really been for me. It's it's just gonna

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Speaker 3: I mean, we are in the wide receiver three yeah, territory.

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Speaker 2: We're not expecting them to all be Randy Moss.

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Speaker 3: But it's sixty four. I don't understand how he could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if that's true, he's probably not even draftable.

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Speaker 2: Like times have change obviously in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Davante Smith pretty much on down. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Sixty five is Jamison Williams wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two. I'm starting to buy into it. They seem

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Speaker 3: Sixty seven is one of those wide receiver ones. It's

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Speaker 3: but Jerry Jude, who else is getting the football.

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Speaker 2: In the right doesn't really matter who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 2: Flacco's actually very friendly for fans. Oh yeah, nobody cares

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Speaker 2: we throw his picks or whatever. Tilman could be on

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Speaker 3: They were. They were throwing the ball over the place.

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Speaker 3: Winston was in there last year, and Flacco's just an

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Speaker 2: Very similar. Yeah, and the Joku as well. Those three

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Speaker 3: Uh sixty eight. Wide receiver thirty four, Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 2: You're not worried about the aute cutting into a.

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Speaker 3: Judybout the deal he signed vet minimum, no money guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like he makes the team. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: he's had such wear and tear. Seventy Wide receiver thirty

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Speaker 2: up when we talked about Evans. He was like wide

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Speaker 2: one angle right now, he might be twenty spots too low.

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Speaker 2: He way too low on my list. Yeah, that maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll do a little work on the injury. But and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you don't see him in the preseason, but.

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Speaker 3: We'll get news if he's practicing or not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's a stud.

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Speaker 3: Seventy five. Wide receiver thirty six is dk metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Too low then, way too low now? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: he belonged ibut with Duante Smith. That seems like the

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Speaker 3: So you'd have him wide receiver twenty twoish in that range. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a clear cut number one receiver on an NFL team.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't understand why he guys like that. I

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Speaker 3: understand there's some you know, unsettled right right right right

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Speaker 2: I don't think RUDOLPH'SNNA throwing the ball. I'd of Godwin

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Speaker 2: way too low, right, Jerry Judy's too low. Probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver thirty seven at seventy six. Jakobe Myers. Now

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Speaker 3: he's he's the number two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not gonna win your league, but he.

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Speaker 3: Should be a he's a solid wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Three. He's got a lot better quarterback thrown to him

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Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, Bowers will get his fine, but then

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Speaker 2: Myers is going to catch ninety balls. I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what he I think he gets five

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Speaker 3: or six a game. Yeah, yeah, seventy nine. Ooh, wide

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Speaker 3: receiver thirty eight Cooper Cup Nope, ooh, nope.

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying that. I bet he doesn't play.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to manufacture catches for him in Seattle,

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Speaker 3: like they didn't know.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have the Stafford connection. Their ability really worries me,

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Speaker 2: and separation really worries me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, eighty Wide receiver thirty nine is one Jennings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think he's like his under rased you get

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Speaker 2: again if I because out, Yeah, Debo's gone, Debo's gone, right,

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Speaker 2: Will seersall's in the mix and Kittles the same roles

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Speaker 2: all number one. He was really productive, Like, yeah, why

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Speaker 2: would he change? I don't I don't understand that at all. No, No,

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Speaker 2: I think him verse Judy is a conversation to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's fifteen spots too long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, it's not a brand name guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Eighty one Wide receiver forty but uh Golden hmm, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, but you rather have Golden or Reid Reid?

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Speaker 2: I think i'd rather read. Yeah, he's worked at the

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Speaker 2: quarterback the last couple years. I think he's really underrated.

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Speaker 2: I think he's good. Yeah. The Packers said, hey, we'll

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Speaker 2: give you read them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be calling

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Speaker 2: at him right now, right, Yeah, that's rich eighty three.

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Speaker 2: There's still a lot of good names out there.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver forty one, and they already have made the

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Speaker 3: change to Dallas on here, George Pickens.

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Speaker 2: I'd probably still go higher if he's.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver forty one in fantasy. George isn't going to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 2: Oh no. I think he gets a slight bump with

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Speaker 2: this trade, just because I think they'll throw the ball more.

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Speaker 2: but not a huge bump.

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Speaker 3: George is gonna get angry. Eighty four Wide receiver forty two.

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Speaker 3: Roma Dunze.

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Speaker 2: I guess didn't do a lot last year, but I

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Speaker 2: really liked him coming out of school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's another guy's wide receiver one on his team,

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Speaker 3: eighty five wide receiver forty three, Calvin Ridley.

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Speaker 2: I would have him a lot higher.

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Speaker 3: I would have him way higher, right, Like some of

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Speaker 3: these guys are number two's on her teams and threes.

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Speaker 2: I almost cop Can the Steelers trade for him? Guy?

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Speaker 2: But I thought about that. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: It's right, right, But I think Ridley's going to be

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Speaker 2: I'll get a lot of actions.

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Speaker 3: Here's another one wide receiver forty four, ninety six overall,

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Speaker 3: Leo Shakir.

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Speaker 2: They signed Elijah Moore and they got a million slides.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't bother.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't move the needle from me. Whatever. The next

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Speaker 3: time Elijah Moore shows that he can play in a

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Speaker 2: The first time. I just mean there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: I'd get it, and he's the number one umber one.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a crazy ranking for him though.

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Speaker 2: PPR should be PPR. Yeah you forgetting this is PPR.

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Speaker 3: But ninety eight wide receiver forty five Stefan Diggs, I'm

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Speaker 3: probably on board.

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Speaker 2: Fair. Yeah, I think that's fair, assuming there's no lingering issues.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 3: One hundred wide receiver forty six, Rashid Shaheed.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now I don't love it if it's Schucker Rattler. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, but he's good at football.

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Speaker 3: One fourteen wide receiver forty seven. If you could pry

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Speaker 3: this guy away from this team, it would be nice.

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Speaker 3: Darnell Mooney, Yeah, I don't think he can. I don't

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Speaker 2: I think of a very similar year to he last year,

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Speaker 2: lot of Mooney stuff on Twitter to like, I just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that may be an over the moon type.

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Speaker 2: And he's not even great.

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Speaker 3: It's just he's a good number two. I'm really happy with.

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Speaker 2: Signing him, and he gave him more than they wanted.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a perfect fit for him. Why would

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Speaker 2: they move on from.

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Speaker 3: One eighteen Wide receiver forty eight is Jaden Reid he's

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Speaker 3: buying Oh he's too low.

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Speaker 2: I'm buying it that no doubt. Oh he's a playmaker man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like five guys in this area that I

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Reed could be their best guy. He could

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Speaker 3: One nineteen Wide receiver forty nine Josh Downs.

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Speaker 2: I'm in on that too, even if it's Richardson. I

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Speaker 2: think Downs is. They haven't mentioned Pittman either, none of these.

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Speaker 3: Next god receiver fifty at one twenty four is Michael Pittan.

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Speaker 2: That's almost my questions. Who would you rather have for

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Speaker 2: Fantasy BPR? I think I get those two being close,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, and it's not gonna be a great accuracy,

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Speaker 2: pass involvement volume team.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver fifty one is Keon Coleman.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't put him with that group. I think

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Speaker 2: he might be a boss, but I'm not ready to

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Speaker 2: say that. But it's one year right now. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: he's worried.

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Speaker 3: One twenty eight is a Meccagbuka. At wide receiver fifty two,

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Speaker 3: I don't think he can see the field much early. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's what's the path to a bunch of catches there

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Speaker 3: for him?

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean, assuming Godin's healthy, which I guess they're not.

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Speaker 3: Assuming they get a really good running back and running

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Speaker 3: game right, two receivers ahead of him who are going.

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Speaker 2: To get the football. McMillan's not bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, McMillan's good, right, right, right.

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Speaker 2: It might be a semi red shirt year. He might

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Speaker 2: end up with five hundred yards if that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean that's not that's not a wide receiver three.

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Speaker 3: No, Wide receiver fifty three at one thirty six is

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Speaker 3: Ricky Piersoll. Maybe a little bit of a leap of faith.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do much of anything last year.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean he also got a shot. He did.

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Speaker 3: Not in Denver at one up at the end.

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Speaker 2: Not real, not real? Yeah, yeah, he had like one game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would say there was one spark there somewhere. Wide

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Speaker 2: receiver fifty four is Luther Burden. Maybe. I mean if

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Speaker 2: DJ Morgan would happen to get moved to the moon

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Speaker 2: with Burden, Yeah, I think that's the That's why I

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Speaker 2: bring up DJ Moore. Burden's a lot like him, or

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Speaker 2: they won't get the burden in hand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. One wide receiver fifty five is Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 2: Got a little cloudy for him over the draft, it did.

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Speaker 2: I mean it looked really nice when he's clearly the two,

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Speaker 2: but now there's warm right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Marvin Mims is at wide receiver fifty six.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman is wide receiver fifty.

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Speaker 2: Seven, but bump him up higher. I think he's the two.

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Speaker 3: Quinton Johnston at wide receiver fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Does Mike Williams hurt him at all? No? I don't

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Speaker 2: think that. I'm not a big Johnston fan though.

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Speaker 3: Jayden Higgins with the Texans is wide receiver fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: Maybe or he could have a total red shirt year too,

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Speaker 2: who knows.

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Speaker 3: We're down into the one fifties now. Over All, UH

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Speaker 3: wide receiver sixty we Sean Bateman.

437
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: I would have him higher than some of these guys.

438
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: He's a spot starter. Yeah, yeah, he's facing a wide

439
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 3: receiver four yeah.

440
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

441
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: Adam Thielen at wide receiver sixty one.

442
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 2: I think he's still good. Almost brought him up with

443
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Yeah. I mean he's one hundred years old

444
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: and he's a slot said.

445
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 3: This is probably his last year, right, Okay, UH wide

446
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 3: receiver sixty two. Marquise Brown, he's kind of he could

447
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: come back a sight out of mind.

448
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he could come back and then coming big.

449
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 2: They throw deep a little more.

450
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs is Wide receiver sixty three.

451
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: I guess it would be my third packer. I mean

452
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: he's ahead of Wicks, but I would still have my

453
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: behind golden and definitely read. Yeah.

454
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 3: Wide receiver sixty four is Jack Beck.

455
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 2: I guess he's pretty NFL ready. It's not a road

456
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: and there's no ceiling there.

457
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: Adam and I Mitchell at sixty five.

458
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm still a fan.

459
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: A third Colts wide receiver receiver right and pierces out there.

460
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 3: They can put like fifteen passes a game and there's

461
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: a first round by Dad. Wide receiver sixty six is

462
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: Xavier Lagette.

463
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: Okay, he's like Coleman to me. But we'll see if

464
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 2: they can take a jump in here too.

465
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: At one sixty five. Wide receiver sixty seven is to

466
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: Mario Douglas.

467
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: That's doesn't move the needle lot for me.

468
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm just looking here through this Antonio or uh Alec

469
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: Pierce at seventy one, So four Colts wide receivers in

470
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: the top seventy one.

471
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: Maybe you could probably Pittman away from maybe.

472
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh you got h who else were looking at?

473
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: I'm just seeing if anybody else stands out here.

474
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Like DeAndre Hopkins isn't even on the list barely trying

475
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: to think of some of the older guys that are

476
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: A Marii Cooper.

477
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah he's on he's here. A Mariy Cooper is right now,

478
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 3: wide receiver seventy two.

479
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: I would take him with that. He's gonna play football

480
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: for someone.

481
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: And Keenan Allen's at wide receiver eighty.

482
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, how do you rank you guys on

483
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: a team?

484
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: But DeAndre Hopkins is wide receiver eighty three. He's all

485
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: the way down there.

486
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: I say, you even know his team?

487
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Calvin Austin is a wide receiver eighty eight, two

488
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: fifty seven overall, so basically undraftable. Alan Lazard is wide

489
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: receiver ninety Do.

490
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: We think he's the Jets number two? Probably? Yeah? Rightlson,

491
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: Yeah he is.

492
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Cocher, who he talked about I think is better

493
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: than people I like to stand wide receiver ninety one.

494
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: That's one of the fun things about Dynasty is like

495
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: I picked him up halfway through the season for nothing,

496
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 2: and I'm happy he's on my team. You know.

497
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Roman Wilson is wide receiver ninety six.

498
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: If he could establish himself as a three. That would

499
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 2: go a long way.

500
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Darius Slayton down at wide receiver one hundred mm.

501
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: I assume he'll be the opposite Wandell will be the third.

502
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dontavian Wicks's wide receiver one oh six. He's still

503
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 3: a Dantavian Wicks believer.

504
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't catch up ball very well. I had high hopes

505
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: for him last year. Yeah, he had slashes. Yeah, Drafting

506
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: two receivers is not a great shot in the arm.

507
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey Tucker was the Raiders receiver that we were

508
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 3: trying to think the other day, one fourteen on Trey Tucker.

509
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,719
Speaker 2: But interesting, Yeah, how about a number two in New England?

510
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: It would be interesting to me. Whoever, Whoever's not Stefan Diggs,

511
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: it's Douglas. I guess it is Douglas. But I'm wondering

512
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: if Kyle Williams could go past them. Maybe maybe.

513
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: Not a wonderful rookie class. So it's not it's not.

515
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: And you don't see a lot of those guys ranked

516
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: all that highly, unlike last year, where I thought some

517
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: of the rookies were overdrafted last year.

518
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Harris Harrison in particular, was like taking the

519
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: first round right.

520
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 3: Right, tap the brakes there a little bit, yeah, right,

521
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 3: but uh yeah, I think, uh, you know, Metcalf should

522
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: get a bump up and pick Pickens gets a slight bump,

523
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: and I don't think that affects ceed Lamb at all.

524
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: No, I said, I did a Dynasty podcast this morning

525
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: with Marcus Mosher, who coincidentally I'm a Steeler guy. He's

526
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: a cowboy guy just happened to be on that day.

527
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: We both said, I'll give friar muth a little bump.

528
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: As it stands today, I'm giving Metcalf a maybe a

529
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: tear bump with knowing that if someone shows up, but

530
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: he could go back to where he was. I gave

531
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: Pickens a slight nod up, and I gave didn't give

532
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: Lamb any bad stuff. I did say, if a number

533
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: one back emerges in Dallas, they'll be happy they have

534
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: George Pickens. I mean, they'll lighten up the box.

535
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: I right now, Metcalf's wide receiver thirty six is a low,

536
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: low end wide receiver.

537
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: Three that's right, that's the way receiver. Two. Yeah, he's

538
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: in the top twenty four. I'm sure if I were

539
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: do right, Yeah.

540
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyways, let's get to a break.

541
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: He is the Matt Wainers is getting ten targets a game,

542
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: right right, Metcalf's going to get ten. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

543
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: you take that. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do a break.

544
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 2: That was a Fantasy Football Focus for today. Tomorrow we'll

545
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: take a look at those tight ends and see where

546
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: things come kind of sword out there. But that was

547
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Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus's rankings. We'll be back with more right

548
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558
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Speaker 2: I was actually thinking the exact same thing, I assume,

559
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Speaker 2: so I guess yeah, we'll do it in the same stratosphere, right,

560
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Speaker 2: Oh really together? Very googly on.

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Speaker 3: sure there's gonna be a lot of and you know,

567
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 3: in a in a way. You know, when I woke

568
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: to the news this morning that the Steelers had traded George,

569
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: I wasn't I wasn't surprised that the Steelers had traded

570
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: George Pickens.

571
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: I thought it might be coming.

572
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: But you know, after the draft, I thought, well, you know,

573
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: they're probably gonna stick with this and see what it

574
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 3: looks like before anything happens.

575
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: You're it's a really good looking do I want to

576
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: see what I was intrigued. Yeah, I was intrigued by

577
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: what that might look like.

578
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: But I also understand the thought that what it might

579
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: look like might not be not on the field. I

580
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: do believe, even I firmly believe that it would have

581
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: helped the running game.

582
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: I think, and it's a dangerous a lot of players.

583
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: But I also understand the volatility of it all. I

584
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 3: don't you know, when we first started talking about when

585
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: the Steelers were, when Metcalf was raised as a possibility

586
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: at the trade deadline last year. I said, I don't

587
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: know if you can have George Pickens and DK Metcalf

588
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: on the field together because of the volatile, vital nature.

589
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: Of the duo. And I don't think there as redundant

590
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: as people think as players. They both get downfield, they're

591
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: both big, they're both fast, but they win different ways.

592
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: And I learned more of that after I really studied

593
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Metcalf post Steeler trade. But you can't have two flags

594
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: a game between the two of your starting receivers and

595
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or whatever, or a blow

596
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: up on the side. And I don't know that Metcalf

597
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: is Again. I don't think he's a diva or a

598
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: bad guy or anything, but I think he knows the

599
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: league knows they can get under his skin, you know,

600
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: like that hockey instigator or the guy that he would

601
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: not be the guy I would pick a fight with him.

602
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't either.

603
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: If it were like a five to ten pound defensive back.

604
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: That's not the dude I want to get on the

605
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: wrong side of it.

606
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: I'd let him punch me in the face mask for

607
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: a fifteen year od flag. If he's going to fall

608
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, so hopefully he realizes that's a problem too.

609
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: So he's just farther along on the maturity scale.

610
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah than Pickens's. I'm certainly sure of that

611
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: in the locker room, you know. And again, Pickens is

612
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: a bad guy, bef. He's not getting arrested, he's not

613
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: doing bad things, but just he's young and immature. You know.

614
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: I think they're both competitive. I think they both want

615
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: to win. They're both highly talented. But yeah, I think

616
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: you said it well, and I think Lab said the

617
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: same thing. Am I shocked and surprised? No, But I

618
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: would have bet they went into training camp with Pickens

619
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: after the draft was in the black.

620
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: I think, you know, you know, I just think that

621
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: the Cowboys looked at this and said, hey, we didn't

622
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: get the receiver. Yeah that we that we needed in

623
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: the draft.

624
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: We weren't willing to give you three. Now we are.

625
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Now we are.

626
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: And I think that when there was a breaking point, yeah,

627
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: when they met the price, it's like.

628
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that'll do it now, Yeah that was the ask,

629
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: and we'll do it. Yeah. And I think maybe it

630
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: was Josie and Anderson are one of those said that

631
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Dallas offered a four in the draft. Pittsburgh say, and

632
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: that's on four. I would not have been interested before.

633
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure i'd have done a three straight up

634
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: in the in the draft, you know, because of course

635
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: you do things different, you know, you might not have drafted.

636
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: I assume you still would have taken Johnson the.

637
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: Way the draft fell, Well, let's go and take a

638
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: look at where Dallas picked him round three in what

639
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: was would have been available at that point. Remember at

640
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: that point, Kyle Williams had come off the board, like

641
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: that would have been a target for me. The Lions

642
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: had traded up for Isaac Tesla.

643
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be in that market.

644
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, where did Cowboys pick? They picked Chavon Revel. Okay,

645
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: at seventy six. Jalen Knowle was still there.

646
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: Okay, now that I would understood.

647
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: But you didn't know that prior to a trade.

648
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like I imagine Cowboys are on the clock

649
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: in round three. They're probably not saying, hey, Steelers, we're

650
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: gonna give you the three now. They're probably like, Revel's here,

651
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: we're taking Yeah, we're taking Revel. Yeah, we have first

652
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: round grade on him. With the asterisk because of the injury. Right,

653
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: we're not moving off this pick.

654
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: The reason why they didn't take they could have taken Jail.

655
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: In the one, because they could have taken it. That's

656
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: why why I was thinking that too.

657
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: The Steelers took Caleb Johnson in that round.

658
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: And I don't think they had gotten much different. Now,

659
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: if you have a four, would you traded next year's

660
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: four with his four to get Noel? Maybe? I mean

661
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: every there's a bout of fly effact. Who knows.

662
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: Save On Williams was there, but I love saving wouldn't

663
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: do it for me? He went to the Packers.

664
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: Uh, Noel's nol was the only one that I liked

665
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: enough to even consider. Again, I like, I.

666
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: Felt was the last pick of the of the of

667
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: the third round.

668
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: That doesn't that doesn't do it anyway too early. There

669
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: were some receivers one way too early.

670
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there was because of the lack of

671
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: receivers overall. In this draft. You saw some guys getting

672
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: over draft.

673
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not jumping in on them. Then it doesn't

674
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: make them better prospects. No, it doesn't at all.

675
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: You know, if you start looking at that round two area,

676
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people thought, well, the Steelers

677
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: going to get a round to our second round pick

678
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: for George Pickens, And I don't think that was ever

679
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: in the cards. I don't think that was in the cards.

680
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: Jade and Higgins went in the second round.

681
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Sure, I'd just swapped them straight up for Higgins. Luther

682
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: Burden went in the second round. Yes, I would have

683
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: done all those ummm, like I really Trey Harris went

684
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: in the second round, Okay, Jack Beck went in the

685
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: second round.

686
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: Which to me was a little high rich too. Right, Uh,

687
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: that was it there. This just wasn't a deep receiver draft,

688
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: which is why the Steelers made the Dk Metcalf trade

689
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: to begin with.

690
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: All Right, Metcalf and Pickens are such great examples of this.

691
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: So many drafts in the last six to ten years.

692
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: You get great day two dudes. You know. DK Metcalf

693
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: was Yeah, Deontay Johns, he was a Steeler.

694
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: DK Metcalf went to pick before Deontay Johnson.

695
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: It was sixty fifth over. Yeah, Pickens was late. And

696
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: this year that you weren't getting.

697
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: The day just wasn't that kind of draft. We said

698
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: that all along with this. I didn't I didn't love

699
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: the receiver group. I liked some of those mid round receivers.

700
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't like Jack Beckett. You know where he went, right, I.

701
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: Mean, if you made this deal, I'm not taking the

702
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: Bucca head of Harmon. No. Like again, yeah, it's it

703
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't have it wasn't the path. Yeah, now I do

704
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: think that.

705
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: Again, I think you can get a veteran receiver who

706
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: maybe he's not quite as good as George Pickens, but

707
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: you can replicate some of that production. And again I

708
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: don't I don't think with DK Metcalf on the roster,

709
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: are you gonna have enough passes available for both of

710
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: those guys to get eight to ten targets a game.

711
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: No, but you definitely don't want life without your number

712
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: one either, Right.

713
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: That's the problems. And we talked about that last offseason.

714
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: What happens if Pickens is out? Well, we saw what

715
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: happened this year when Pickens was out. It wasn't pretty.

716
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: I mean, here's an old school stealer reference. I might

717
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: not need Swan and Stallworth, but I need Swan and

718
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: Jim Brown. You know I need Jimmy Brown, Jimmy Smith,

719
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: Jim Smith, Jermy Smith. I'd really dated myself there, but

720
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: he was like a great three for the seventies that

721
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: it started for everybody else. We had two All Famers

722
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: ahead of him. I don't need to All Famers or

723
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: two Pro Bowlers, but I can't have such a drop

724
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: from my best receiver to my second best receiver. Yeah,

725
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: it's somebody in between there.

726
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: And the thing is with receivers, it's all about getting

727
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: open h I mean for a long time, and he

728
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: might still hold the record, probably Antonio Brown. There was

729
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: a long period of time fifteen years where the guy

730
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: who held the record for most catches in a game

731
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: by a Steeler.

732
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 2: You know who? I bet it's not Stallworth or some

733
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: obvious answer, right, Courtney Hawkins. Oh wow, kind of a jitterbug,

734
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: quick hitters, get the ball out. Hit a Welker feel

735
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: to him, right a little bit?

736
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you know that was you can

737
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 3: get You can get by with guys at that position.

738
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: You don't you don't have to have stars across the board,

739
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 2: No you don't, but you do have to have competent

740
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: NFL wide receivers, right, Like I'm not giving Van Jefferson

741
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: a hard time, but you can't go into season with

742
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson's or two. And you would hope Austin's already

743
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: passed that and Wilson can get past that. But I

744
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: need somebody still in between there. Yeah, Like I'm not

745
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 2: thrilled with the receiver room as constructed right this minute.

746
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: They don't play tomorrow, they don't play them, they don't

747
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: play for the next they don't play next month, they

748
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: don't play the month after that.

749
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: And we've said this a million times. They're not using

750
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: twelve draft picks next year. They're not.

751
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: And that's the thing to me, that is the difference

752
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: between this situation this year and the last years and

753
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: all that, right, Like you have all these picks, Like

754
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: if somebody says, hey, give us your we want a

755
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: five or four, okay, all.

756
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Right, we got an extra one.

757
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm not worried about going into this draft this

758
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: year going I don't have We don't We're next year going,

759
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: I've only got one fourth I've only got one fourth

760
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: round pick.

761
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: Right, or if it comes down to team X is

762
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: like we went a fourth and Steelers said we went

763
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: a five. All right, let's do it right, or.

764
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: You get into it like a lot of those situations

765
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: last year when you were talking to people at the

766
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: trade deadline because there were a lot of receivers move

767
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: maybe teammate once once, uh, who has DeAndre Hopkins for example,

768
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: when he moved. The Chiefs are offering, well, we got

769
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: two thirds, we can give you a or a four

770
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: or whatever it ended up being, and the Steelers going,

771
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: we only have right now seven picks. You know, we

772
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: don't want to give up a fifth in the you know,

773
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 3: or fourth, or to go over top of an.

774
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: Extra six just to get over them or whatever.

775
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, now it's like trade two. Yeah, I'll give you

776
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: a five and a seven, or I'll give.

777
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,479
Speaker 2: You are will take what combination do you need because

778
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: I can create a lot of combinations to get it

779
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: better than the other team. I'm competing again, right and

780
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: I got so much cap space in cap space for

781
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: this year and next year, et cetera. Like, Okay, maybe

782
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: this guy's contracts a little rough. I can swallow it. Yeah,

783
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: it's not that bad.

784
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: Team B wants you to pick up five million of it.

785
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: We don't need you to do that.

786
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need to do that. And I'll give

787
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: you a slightly lesser pick or whatever however you want

788
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: to play it, I can contort my trades.

789
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: It's like walking into the grocery store on payday, right.

790
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: Right, right, right. I didn't plan on buying that that steak,

791
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: but looks pretty good. It looks good.

792
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: It's a good look at steak, and I got money.

793
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: I can afford it. Yeah, I think there's more coming,

794
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: you know, right, I'll be all right.

795
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: Where if I'm going into the store and it's paydays

796
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: in two days and I'm like that steak looks the

797
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: steak looks pretty good, but I don't need it, right

798
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: right right?

799
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or better out and you walk into the bar

800
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: on pay day and buy you can get yourself a

801
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 2: little trouble that, but it's just you got a little

802
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: more cachet. Oh yeah, you've built it up for that reason. Yeah,

803
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: it's just your liquid.

804
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, let's get through another break. He

805
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening

806
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

807
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: now be back to finish up the show right after.

808
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

809
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

810
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: and goldr Steelers Nation radio man.

811
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt

812
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt Sportslogos dot Net via CBS Sports reporting

813
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: that five teams we'll get a alternate helmet this year. Wow,

814
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: it's going to be announced this summer, Okay, and the

815
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: five team games the Saints, the Chargers, the Browns, the Commanders,

816
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: and the Steelers.

817
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Really, how about that. I'm not big on logos and

818
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: all those things. I could care that people love that

819
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: all fired up.

820
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: Over oh the block letters, and I don't care.

821
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: I don't care about any that stuff, really don't. But

822
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: the Browns are probably my least favorite helmet. Chargers might

823
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: be my favorite helmet, but partially because I was born

824
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy three and that was the only team

825
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 2: other than the Steelers I cared about because Dan Fouts

826
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: and they were way ahead of Theirs. They cool lightning bolts. Yeah,

827
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: but obviously the story here is the Steelers. Yeah, and

828
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: the Steelers obviously have a unique helmet in that their

829
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: logos only on one side, you know, and it's hasn't changed.

830
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: We've seen other helmets, you know, the color rushed stuff.

831
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, but just does that mean,

832
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: for like one game they'll do it that. I don't know,

833
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: I wonder. Yeah, the.

834
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: Steelers and Chargers currently both have one base helmet for

835
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: of course, it's black for the Steelers, it's white for

836
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: the Chargers, but they've also used the yellow alternate helmet.

837
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: The Chargers have also worn a dark blue helmet in

838
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 3: the past, so we'll see. I don't know, it's interesting.

839
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 2: I should know this. This is a really dumb question.

840
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: But the most teams have two helmets.

841
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: A lot of them have different Yeah.

842
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I know the Steelers have one. I

843
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: mean there's the same ones in your locker if your

844
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: home road play.

845
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: The one helmet rule of Scott was scrapped in twenty

846
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: twenty two.

847
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: Before that was a rule.

848
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to have the same helmet no matter what,

849
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: unless you're doing throwbacks. Yeah, that's how you get the

850
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: silver just to play a silver lion's helmet.

851
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean again, it's not my bag. I mean, I

852
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: know people were into that stuff. Or when my son

853
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: was young, he always like, this player wears these different

854
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: wrist bands. Was like ten me nuts. Yeah, you know,

855
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: I still umpire a lot of baseball games.

856
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: I do all different levels and all kinds of stuff,

857
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: and you'll see every kid now And actually Will Graves,

858
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: who is the Associated press writer in Pittsburgh, just wrote

859
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: about this.

860
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: Okay, these the everybody's for lack of, for lack.

861
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: Of it's an oven mith that they that they base

862
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: runners wear on the bass pass.

863
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: Does it help that much? No? Is the thought that

864
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: you could break your fingers if they get wid.

865
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's what the that's what major league players

866
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: wear for because when you're diving back into the base,

867
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: you want to have your hand protected because they play

868
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two games a year and.

869
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: They're millionaires and somebody's probably paying for them.

870
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: But you see kids now wearing these things.

871
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: As soon as they get on first, as soon as

872
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: they get on first, and at levels where they can't

873
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: even lead off the bag and they're not allowed to

874
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: r you're not allowed to slide head first, and they've

875
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: got there there because they see the pro guys.

876
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: I had a kid the one thing I was on

877
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: paying the game. This was a couple of years ago,

878
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 3: and there I'm in the field and there's the kids

879
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: leading off. It was an older level player and he's

880
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: diving back in the first he's got the other mid on,

881
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: but he's got the hand that he's reaching back to

882
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: get back to the bag with. Is not the hand

883
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: that he's got the other mid on.

884
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: Them one?

885
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because it's the hand that you're going back

886
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: into the bag with.

887
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: Ye.

888
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: And I said to his dad after the game, I'm like,

889
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: he's got the other mid on the wrong hand.

890
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: It's not even getting dirty.

891
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, he ordered that online, you know, because

892
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: he thought it looked cool, but he ordered the wrong hand.

893
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, kind of defeats.

894
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: What's the correct hand, the hand that you're going back in?

895
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: But is it always the same? Yeah, pretty much.

896
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: I would it would be your left hand because it

897
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: no time are you ever going back to the bag

898
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: with your left hand. It should always be your right

899
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: hand because you're going back in.

900
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I would think it would always be your left

901
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: because it's closer. Shows how I don't know baseball. If

902
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm leading off first and I dive back in, isn't

903
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: it left closer?

904
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: No, when it goes closer, but you're you're diving back in.

905
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: If you're if you're diving back in with your left hand.

906
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: You don't give as much ofmph. Yeah, okay, okay.

907
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Now you can go back in with your left hand

908
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: just you know.

909
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean if it's a lob over or whatever. Yeah, okay.

910
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: But interesting And a lot of these ones you can't

911
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: even slide head first.

912
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 3: Lot, Yeah, the younger leagues, a lot of them. You're

913
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: not allowed to slide head first.

914
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: You Mentionine Pete Rose with an of them in on

915
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: or yeah, dude.

916
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: But I mean, so this stuff does matter. I mean,

917
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: kids look at this stuff, and there's no question I

918
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: want to I want to dress like Justin Jefferson. I put,

919
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: you're right, all right.

920
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: I just never cared about it. It was never my

921
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: bag either. But like I could tell, my my son's

922
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: a lot more observant than me. I mean, he was

923
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: a kid, he's eighteen now. He knew everyone's dress code basically.

924
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: You know, he wears these cleats. He was a nerd

925
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: about it too. He knows I don't even know this stuff,

926
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: like all the different designs of helmets, like he wanted

927
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: to be an equipment guy. He's like, he should be

928
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: using these cleats, he should be using this helmet. I know,

929
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 2: the different face masks, but I don't know the names

930
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: of the helmets or what who wears what. I'm actually

931
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: really bad about numbers. My mind just doesn't work that way.

932
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: And he knows every number in the whole league, and

933
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 2: it's just that I kind of get. I mean, yes,

934
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: it's definitely a weakness of mine. I don't know some

935
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: star player's numbers. I just don't see him that way

936
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: for reason.

937
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: But I just always like one of the other things

938
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: is completely off tangent here. But you see all the

939
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: kids now, are all the younger players now because major again,

940
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: major league players do it. They've got the the elbow pad.

941
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: I was going to ask about the number they've got

942
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: the shint guard on. They get all that stuff on,

943
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: and then they run out and they get it. You know,

944
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: you get a double and the next thing you know,

945
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: the first base coach is standing over there and he's

946
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: got twenty different guys stuff. He just holds everything. There's

947
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: ten different shin guards, there's five different elbow guards.

948
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: They get a bunch of hits at it, and he's

949
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: busy holding.

950
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: Do you really need all that stuff for a youth

951
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: baseball game?

952
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: I guess next question, and I know you do older

953
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: players than this. These aren't you know, six seven year

954
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: olds that are afraid of the ball. But so many

955
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: kids in the batter's box are afraid of the ball.

956
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: Obviously they don't even want to be there. Mom and

957
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: dad said, you're playing. They're out there in jeans or whatever,

958
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: you know. But do some of these dudes that have

959
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: like the elbow stuff, does it help their fear? No? Yeah,

960
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: they still don't want to get hit. I don't want to.

961
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: I'm still bail it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

962
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: it's not like you're in head to toe. Right.

963
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: There's there's there's a kid a video out there. It's

964
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: a he's a looks like what is a Pinto player?

965
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: Which is coach pitch and it's I see it on

966
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: Facebook all the time. In the he's got he's got

967
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: the sun like Oakley sunglasses on.

968
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: They probably weren't cheap.

969
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in this, you know, one hundred dollars helmet and

970
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: all the gear.

971
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: Everyone has their own batting helmet now, right oh yeah yeah, yeah, we.

972
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: Don't just throw the just all kinds of you know,

973
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: the eight hundred dollars bat and I'm like, and all

974
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: the comments on there are exactly what you would expect

975
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: like what are they doing with this? And like all

976
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: these videos is just showing the kids swinging the bat

977
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: in that instance, I don't even know if I blame

978
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: the kid.

979
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: No, I would not say yes to that if you're

980
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: the best player in the league, right yeah, yeah, I'm

981
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: not paying all that stuff. I mean, I don't know

982
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: that we all need to share a cup like we

983
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: used to. Or here's three wooden bats. Another situation right here,

984
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: give Johnny your cup. Here you go off the rails here.

985
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: But I'm one part of the game one time, and

986
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm behind the plate and they're changing catchers. Catcher goes in,

987
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: the new catcher comes in and and he stops. He goes,

988
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 3: wait a second, I forgot to put in my cup. Okay,

989
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: I call time. He goes in to put it. He

990
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 3: had his cup he had inside his helmet that he

991
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: was going to put on his face.

992
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least he didn't set it like on his gatorade.

993
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: But it's pretty close.

994
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: You had your cup inside your helmet, you see. I

995
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: took it out when I was putting my stuff on.

996
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: I forgot to put it on. He said, I'm like

997
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: the cup and the helmet like the face mask, of

998
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: your of your of your helmet is going on your face.

999
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Your cup is not something you won't have anywhere near

1000
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: your face.

1001
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: There's molecules in between two and there's all kinds of

1002
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: stuff that could go wrong with that one, right, Yeah,

1003
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: yeah that should Now, I don't think it should be

1004
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: our day where one cup is in the box that

1005
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: they unlock, everybody shares, everyone shares, and it's full of

1006
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: sand and that's not good either, hairs and whatever else.

1007
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: There's a place for it though. Yeah, yeah, we've we're

1008
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: well passed that, well past that big day though. People

1009
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: don't even share helmets. But do we really need Everyone

1010
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: needs their own helmet to I don't know about that either, Yeah,

1011
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: but anyways, but yeah, George Pickens traded Catcher's gear. It's

1012
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: still pretty universal a lot of once they get older.

1013
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: If you're a god, you have your own gear.

1014
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: I'm because you don't want to have to adjust it

1015
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: every time you put it on, right right right?

1016
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: Okay, that I can understand, But I would think all

1017
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: of mine, I mean there's a set of shing guards

1018
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: and everything at Yeah, you can get.

1019
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: You get the league. The league gives you know, bags

1020
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: to everybody. Yeah, includes catchers gear. Now they don't all

1021
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: use it. But if you got somebody who's just learning

1022
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 3: to catch, you don't have to go out and buy

1023
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: all gear.

1024
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: You just throw this on see if you like it. Right,

1025
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: But if you're good, you have your own stuff.

1026
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: If you're if you're a catcher by trade, you have

1027
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 3: your own gear.

1028
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, like probably goldie pads the same way,

1029
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know, right. Yeah, anyways, I know

1030
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 2: goalies don't have to pay the league fee because it's

1031
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: really expense for your kid to be a goalie. Expensive. Yeah. Yeah,

1032
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: interesting show, how about that? That's what we're about. George

1033
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Pickens for two hours? Kind of did we kind of

1034
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: did we were?

1035
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: We pretty much ran the gamut on everything that again,

1036
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: who's available, who might be available? The ramifications of this

1037
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 3: whole thing.

1038
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's Twitter Thursday. I'm sure a lot of you'll be

1039
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: throwing names at us and stuff too.

1040
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: Bring it on, Bring it on, That's what we're here for.

1041
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: But that's going to do it for today's show. We

1042
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: like to though, thank Bob Labriola for stopping by for

1043
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: my partner Matt Williamson for CJ Wolfy here on site

1044
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 3: running the soundboard and the well. Today it's a CJ

1045
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: Wolfly hotline and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video

1046
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: gets out there on the YouTube. Give us the thumbs

1047
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: up there. I am Dale Lolly. We thank you for

1048
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,880
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