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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Serious x Him Triumph

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Speaker 1: Channel one thirty two. Chase Master is in a rock

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Speaker 1: War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife told us

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Speaker 1: she dropped him off at a quick trip in Cobtown.

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Speaker 1: His family says he was last seen at a friend's

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Speaker 1: house in Kennesaw three years ago. It's like he vanished

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Speaker 1: from that home, not to be seen or heard from again.

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Speaker 1: Despite some intense searching, a few clues have been found.

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Speaker 1: We have absolutely no answers at all Star trying to

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Speaker 1: determine if remains found in the backyard of those of

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Speaker 1: an army veteran who has been missing out for three years.

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Speaker 1: This is the home where three years ago, twenty six

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Speaker 1: year old Chase Master was last seen. The search continuous

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Speaker 1: from man wanted in connection with the disappearance and now

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Speaker 1: death of a young Cobb County father and veteran. But

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Speaker 1: it was the last person to see Master alive, and

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Speaker 1: he is now charged with concealing a death. You have

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Speaker 1: to question why somebody would make the decision all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden to run. Imagine your son, you have raised

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Speaker 1: the apple of your eye. You pour all of your love,

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Speaker 1: all of your hopes all of your dreams into him.

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Speaker 1: You watch him grow up and become a man, You

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Speaker 1: watch him fall in love and marry and have children,

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Speaker 1: and then be sent away to Iraq to fight for

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Speaker 1: his country and make it back safe and sound, only

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Speaker 1: to go missing, drop off the face of the earth,

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Speaker 1: totally off the map, off the grid. A son that

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Speaker 1: calls you two and three times a day and text

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Speaker 1: you routinely. You never hear from him again. He drives

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Speaker 1: out of your driveway one afternoon and then another word

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Speaker 1: is never heard. No doorbell, no knock at the door,

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Speaker 1: no text, no phone call, nothing. His birthday passes, Your birthday, passes,

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Speaker 1: mother Day, Christmas, they all pass by, and not a word.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's he Grace. This is Crime Stories, and

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about Iraqi war hero Chase Masna. Joining me

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Speaker 1: right now is a special guest Channel forty six w CBS,

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Speaker 1: Daniel will Kerson. Daniel, I really don't think his mom

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Speaker 1: is ever going to get over this. Oh no, this

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Speaker 1: is her only child. And and even though she I

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Speaker 1: think she was married when when they had him, they

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Speaker 1: divorced and she lived with Chase by, you know, just

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Speaker 1: her and Chase for years and when I went into

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Speaker 1: you know, their house. She gave Chase the master bedroom.

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Speaker 1: That's how close they were. Daniel, do you remember the

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Speaker 1: first time we met with Chase's mom? Oh man, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a dry I opened that door and she had

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Speaker 1: all of those photo albums of him laying at I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: dear Lord in Heaven, take a listen to this. Stephanie

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Speaker 1: Gadine is with me right now. Also with me is

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Speaker 1: Daniel Wilkerson from CBS forty six, who has also been

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Speaker 1: on the story, along with Alan Duke and our staff

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Speaker 1: Lee and others from crime Online. Where you're all here now,

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Speaker 1: and I wish you were here with us. We're all

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Speaker 1: gathered around a table. We're all sifting through bits and

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Speaker 1: pieces of evidence, trying to make some sense. Heads are

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Speaker 1: tails of where is Chase Master? You know we have

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Speaker 1: gone round and round and round like a dog chasing

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Speaker 1: its tail, and then when you catch it, you still

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Speaker 1: don't have anything. Can you take me back to the

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Speaker 1: day that Chase went missing? What happened? Chase was at

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Speaker 1: our house. He was staying with us for a few days,

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Speaker 1: and spoke with Amanda, his wife, on the phone. Now,

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Speaker 1: hold on, he's married with two little girls at this time,

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Speaker 1: two little little girls, but he and a man. He's

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Speaker 1: just come out of active duty. He's coming home and

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Speaker 1: he's having problems assimilating back into the regular civilian world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people can identify with that. When I

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Speaker 1: assimilating with regular people, So I can barely imagine what

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Speaker 1: he was going through. So he's fighting with Amanda, and

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Speaker 1: he came to stay at your house for a few days,

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Speaker 1: all right, Okay? Then what he had been with us

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Speaker 1: to their house for those two days. And she came

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Speaker 1: arguing already at the pickup, before even on the phone,

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Speaker 1: before the pickup. Why over what you know? I don't

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Speaker 1: was that money. I didn't know they were having problems

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Speaker 1: So he finally lands a job at Quick Trip. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know. You don't grow up as a little boy thinking, hey,

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Speaker 1: one day I want to be a clerk at Quick Trip.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but he was having a hard time.

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Speaker 1: regular basis and assimilating was kind of a triumph, right, yes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so they leave together. Where were the babies? The girls

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Speaker 1: the evening, early evening. I'm thinking six in the evening. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he leaves. When did you hear from him next? Never?

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Speaker 1: That was it? When he left? What do you remember

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Speaker 1: about him leaving? What little thing do you remember? He

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Speaker 1: was just so frustrated that that's the only word I

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Speaker 1: very irritated, agitated, and just about what this could be important?

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Speaker 1: What do you think he was agitated about? Whatever was

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Speaker 1: going on in their marriage? Was it that or was

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Speaker 1: was going on between he and Amanda. Okay, well, they've

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Speaker 1: all been there. So he leaves her on six thirty

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Speaker 1: that evening March and you never saw him again, and

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Speaker 1: you never spoke to him. And again, did you ever

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Speaker 1: text with him again? No? I text him, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't get any response. That's significant. When did you text him?

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Speaker 1: Not until the next day. Is that normal for him

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Speaker 1: to have gone the whole night without texting or anything. Well, yes, because,

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Speaker 1: like I told you before, I just assumed they went

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Speaker 1: to call him or text him that night. The next day, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mother in law butting in. Okay, had he already had

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Speaker 1: supper here with you? So he left and for all

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Speaker 1: I got out, just proceeded as a normal day, and

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Speaker 1: I got a text from Amanda later in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Did you text him that day? Not until after I

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Speaker 1: heard from a man? Okay, what did she say? She said,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that Chase did

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Speaker 1: not come home with me last night. I may really

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Speaker 1: they couldn't just hold it together for five or six

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Speaker 1: Did she tell you what? No, she didn't give me

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Speaker 1: took Chase to Brad's house between eight and nine the

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Speaker 1: night of three six. She took him to breath so

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Speaker 1: they made it for about three hours. Yes, got into

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Speaker 1: an argument. She took him to Brad's. Do you believe

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Speaker 1: she took him to Brad's I do. I have no

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Speaker 1: reason not to believe that she didn't, because Brad says

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Speaker 1: he was there. So you texted him at what time

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Speaker 1: that text, I started calling his phone and and what

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Speaker 1: time would that have been? After? Four? Okay? So four pm?

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Speaker 1: You start texting and calling. Then Thursday March twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: at three thirty seven pm, Hi David, will you please

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Speaker 1: which is totally okay, but I need to know that

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Speaker 1: you're all right. I love you? End this message. Did

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Speaker 1: the phone go straight to voicemail or did it ring?

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Speaker 1: And just one of his phone was already out of commission?

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Speaker 1: I wondered was he killed that night? And everything else

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Speaker 1: it went straight to voicemail. I can't. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: for sure. Would you have expected to hear from him

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Speaker 1: before four o'clock? No, But after you texted him and

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Speaker 1: called him, what you've expected to hear from him? Yes,

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Speaker 1: immediately or a few hours later, within five ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: That was your relationship. Yes, Okay, I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: to Daniel. Daniel does what she's saying, so for jive

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Speaker 1: with your knowledge of the facts. It does. The only

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Speaker 1: friend who last saw Chase. He says that he picked

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Speaker 1: Chase up from QT, but you're saying that Amanda says

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Speaker 1: she dropped Chase off at Brad's house. Actually, in the

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Speaker 1: into the middle of the report, she actually said both things.

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Speaker 1: That she took Chase to Brad's house and that she

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Speaker 1: true for all I know, she took him to Brad's

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Speaker 1: quick trip or whatever. It could very well, be that way.

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Speaker 1: The fact is Brad says they meant a quick trip

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Speaker 1: we believe anyway that he was with Brad from that

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Speaker 1: we know that he was with Brad that after that night,

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Speaker 1: by ten o'clock he was with Brad. And you never

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Speaker 1: last time anyone but Brad saw him that we know of. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: at Brad's house he was having ruthing done. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: And did they any of the roofers ever see him?

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Speaker 1: They're alive? I don't know, do you know? Dan know?

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Speaker 1: whole time or what? According to Brad, Yes, he was

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Speaker 1: the bedroom. According to the roofer, no, Now were the

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Speaker 1: roofers in the home. Are outside the home? They were

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Speaker 1: outside the home. Primarily they had a barbecue. Brad had

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Speaker 1: I just cut him a check? Why would you give

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Speaker 1: a barbecue, and while there, the roofers say Brad gave

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Speaker 1: them a tour of Brad's home, included the bedroom. They

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Speaker 1: went all over according to well did they see did

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Speaker 1: they see Chase? No, they didn't. I'm not even ask

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Speaker 1: why would he give the ruferens a tour of his home?

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Speaker 1: But that's significant. If he gave them a tour of

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Speaker 1: the bedrooms? I don't know specifically where they went. He

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Speaker 1: and the roofers said that he thought that was odd.

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Speaker 1: Well I agree with that. Okay, So at that time

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Speaker 1: we have no reason to know that Chase is dead

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Speaker 1: or alive, or sleep in the bedroom or gone. So

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Speaker 1: the last time anyone can corroborate him being alive is

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Speaker 1: that night around nine. Yes, now, if you take Brad's testimony,

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Speaker 1: you know he saw him, But as far as more

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Speaker 1: anyone more than Brad, that and a dollar won't even

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Speaker 1: buy me a gallon of gas. Okay, So let's just

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Speaker 1: move from we know he's alive around ten o'clock that night.

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Speaker 1: If we've got him alive at that time, who's the

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Speaker 1: police authority, Cobb count? What are they saying about surveillance

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Speaker 1: off and sleep in the woods. Okay, did you hear

428
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: him say that? Yeah? He said it, you know a

429
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: couple of times and I was like, I was said

430
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: it was bs and you know, because he wants to

431
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: get sleep in the woods. Yeah exactly. I mean he has,

432
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like so that not y'all stay

433
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: at late talking about Amanda and you're working on the computer. Okay,

434
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: then what happens is he I mean he pretty much

435
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: just you know, I think he'd been up for like

436
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: a couple of days, like tired, Like I mean, you

437
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: could tell he was barely hanging on and I just

438
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: passed out on my bed and like I just continue

439
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, work on stuff, and you know,

440
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: it was gosh, I think you know, the roofers out

441
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: there like six am or something. They always do that

442
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: and started really early, and you know, so I was

443
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: just you know, continuing to get all this stuff from

444
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: my my day, and uh, you know, I thought it

445
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: would be a good idea that uh I have, you know,

446
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: Manna come over and just kind of have like a

447
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: cookout thing, because you know, I knew Brandon and him

448
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: and the roofers, and like, I like to cook and stuff,

449
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: and I know it's kind of odd to have a cookout,

450
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: but like it was, you know, it was it was something. Okay.

451
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: So anyway, she didn't come over. No, you tried to

452
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: get him to call him and and invite her ever

453
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: to kind of like make the pace. Did he do it? No,

454
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: not that I know of. And I mean that's why

455
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: I tried to talk to her on his phone because

456
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have her number, And that's why I had

457
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: his phone in the first place, was to call her

458
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: and ask her mainly if he needed to be at

459
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 1: work that day because I didn't know, and he, you know,

460
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: had to be work at nights most of the time.

461
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: So and then what happened, And then I kind of

462
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: went on my day, Like I mean, I just went

463
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: and did you know stuff I normally do. I went

464
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: to lowse Um. I had to drop a laptop off

465
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: that i'd fixed for somebody. What did you need it lose?

466
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean I was fixing my house up so I

467
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: can't tell you exactly what it was. I mean, just

468
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: so you got to lose. You go to the grocery

469
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: store first. I want to go to off this laptop

470
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: off that was down um off of Um Gosh. It's

471
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: my friend Rickey's house, which was like downtown pretty much.

472
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: He's ever. You're going about your day, you're doing your thing,

473
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: and um, you take the computer to Ricky he lives.

474
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: He lives um pretty much downtown downtown Atlanta, And you

475
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: were all the way up here and I told him

476
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: you had to come with me. That's forty minutes and

477
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: forty minutes at least, it's probably more like three hours

478
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, by the time you get

479
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: get there forty minutes in their thirty minutes back forty

480
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: minutes at best. Okay, so you leave him where she

481
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: was upstairs just I mean the next point. I mean, yeah,

482
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: he was just asleep. Because you know, this is probably

483
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: like eight o'clock. You know m yeah, alright, so you

484
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: can sleep for like five hours, probably not even maybe four,

485
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: I'd say four or five. I wanted always saying nothing

486
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: good happens after good night. I mean you always get

487
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: an arguments and everything goes sideways at night. Y okay.

488
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, because I don't want to get any I

489
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: don't want to lose any of this because I'm pacing

490
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: it all together like a timeline. All right, so you

491
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: go at eight nine, tien thirty, you get back. What's

492
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,719
Speaker 1: he doing sleeping the same exact thing. Door open, closed,

493
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: doors open at this point because he's still in my room. Yeah,

494
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: And this is when I got him up, um. And

495
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean I basically woke up and was like, yo,

496
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: come with me, come on, I'm gonna have a cook out,

497
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, call Amanda. And I dropped all day plans

498
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: on it because I was like, man, I figured he'd

499
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: be up by now, you know, ready to go and

500
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: rolling and got him up and then I you know,

501
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: I got to put him in the other bedroom because

502
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: I was going to work on some stuff in my

503
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: room at this point, and because I had like a

504
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: four bedroom house, so yeah, a kind of saw and

505
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: it was you know, I was like, you know, there's

506
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: no point let him sleep in my room. Continue when

507
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: I got crap I gotta do, and um, you know,

508
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, you know, irritated at this

509
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: point because I was like, you know, wanted to be

510
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: up so we can get stuff, kind of rolling. But

511
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, he was you know also you know had

512
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: I could tell he hadn't been sleeping for a couple

513
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: of days, and you know, I had been fighting or whatnot.

514
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: So he went in the other bedroom. Door open, shut,

515
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: door opened. So later that day, you gave the roof

516
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: us a tour of your home. Let's see there. See

517
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: I didn't really give my tour my home because they've

518
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: been there before. They told me that you gave him

519
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: a tour of your home that they showed you showed

520
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: me around your house. I mean, I guess, but like

521
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: that will probably at like four o'clock or something, four

522
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: or five o'clock. I mean, I didn't really think that

523
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: was the serenod of day. Yeah, But so you come back,

524
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: you get back to him thirty eleven ish, you move

525
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: them from your bedroom to the other bedroom. He crashed

526
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: his door open, and you do what I started going

527
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: and getting you know I have to. That's at that point,

528
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: I'd go a week day or it's a weekday. Yeah,

529
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Amanda wasn't working so she could come out probably.

530
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I thought, you know, I didn't

531
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: think she'd do anything, takeing care of the kids like

532
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: and uh, I kind of wanted to, you know, squash

533
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: this you know, fighting thing if it was, but it was. See.

534
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I remember I give Kase sixty bucks too. I told

535
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: I gave him sixty bucks nine before he asked me

536
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: for a month, and uh, I told him, you know, yeah,

537
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: and I'll give you this, But fifty bucks he had

538
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: in his pocket the whole time. I'm pretty sure. I mean,

539
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he left and came back where I was,

540
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, gone that I know of. You know, so

541
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: you get back, try to wake him up, hey, guys

542
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: in the other room. Then you start doing what after that?

543
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: That's at that point I go to Publix and Lows

544
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: and that's when um um I went and grabbed I

545
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: forget what it was, I need to grab it, uh Lows,

546
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: but um, I grab the list up to cook with

547
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: a Publix and that's when I came back basically started

548
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: with the grill, and it was probably you know, one

549
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: two o'clock at this point. And you know, after I

550
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: started to grill, I like set the backyard, like I

551
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: had a bunch of coals that pretty much one some

552
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: blew out of the yard and like, I mean, rufus,

553
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: I had to get off the house because it was

554
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: like so smoky from the fire that I started in

555
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: the back Yeah, and because there's nobody behind me and

556
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: Canna saw it was like all woods back there. And uh,

557
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: basically after that, that's when I went and tried to

558
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, get chased something like, man, did you see

559
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: the fire in the backyard, because the better he was

560
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: in was directly by the back you mean, you could

561
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: see that fire like you know, playing his day, you know.

562
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized he wasn't there anymore. And

563
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: what time was that? I want to say it was

564
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: like two or three o'clock when you came back from publics?

565
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Was he there? I didn't check with the bedrooms upstairs,

566
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: so you lay for publics at one time. It's probably

567
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: the twelvish or something like that, and he was there.

568
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: You get back from publics, you don't go up there

569
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: or the pine straw catches on fire and you go

570
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: up there. At what time it's about I want to

571
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: see you. It was like between like one or two o'clock.

572
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: It's been like maybe one or one hour or anything

573
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: like that. Not even not long like before the last time,

574
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe one third for you to leave him. Go

575
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: to lows, go to publics, get back, start a fire

576
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: and put the fire out and go up there. It's

577
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: probably two o'clock. I mean it was gone, and he

578
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: was gone, and like he had taken his bag and

579
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: everything that he had, like he had a little bag

580
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: and then he had his He left his two little

581
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: balls of beer in my in the closet. But other

582
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: than that, how big was the back It's like a backpack.

583
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: Was it a backpack? Yeah, it was a backpack. Seeing

584
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Glaze with his backpack in sixty bucks helped him take

585
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: his bags to the room, right, Yeah, it was that

586
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: back then, backpacking like a you know, grocery bag of

587
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: two bottles of beer or something like that. So did

588
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: you see it coming that he was laving. Yeah, he

589
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: did that every time, Like he would just disappear every

590
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: time every time. Then then he over my house. He

591
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: would always never till he was even he would just

592
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: disappeared a man like, so that was his m O.

593
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: So I wasn't too world. Times you've been over in

594
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: disappear two or three. I mean each time you've been

595
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: in my house, he always just left because I was

596
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: always like trying to get to do something in or

597
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: like you know, something like a cook out or just

598
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: I feel like something that he didn't want to do.

599
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: You know, he was you know, all about like just

600
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: kind of getting stoned at that point, and you know,

601
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: like I said, I wasn't really smoking, so it was

602
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was on another topic a man hit

603
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: on you. I mean it was you know like yeah,

604
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, like what like I mean like

605
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: she was mad at Chase and it was just like

606
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, um, basically I'm stoned now. Um you know,

607
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: anything goes like you know, you just have like the

608
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: eye connection thing and it's just like you know, you

609
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: could tell when he played this was another man thing

610
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: where he thinks she's so into me and she's like

611
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 1: so not. I would say that, so you really think

612
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: she was hitting on me. I mean it's not like

613
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: hitting on me like grab my ass or anything, but

614
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: like I mean she was like, you know, feeling it

615
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: out at least, like I mean, she called me and

616
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: told me to come over there to bring her some

617
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: pot for like, you know, just some bizarre reason. Like

618
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, it was just kind of you think she's

619
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: trying to get back at chrise. You know, I hope

620
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: so like that was that was kind of because otherwise

621
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: that makes it Yeah, okay, okay, back to the day,

622
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: all right, So around you think two o'clock, you notice

623
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: he's not gone and his backpack is gone. Now, earlier

624
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: that day, you had taken his cell phone with you

625
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: by because I mean, I think I just really had

626
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: it with me, but I really wanted him to stay

627
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: and you know, wait for him to manage to come

628
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: over because I knew we always left like that was

629
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: him up. You know, he always leaves, So if I

630
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: had a cell phone, he wasn't gonna leave right away.

631
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: And but that was like early in the morning when

632
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: I thought that a man and then we could come over.

633
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: And before I you know, moved from out of the bedroom,

634
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: and uh, because I really wanted to talk to him again,

635
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, to make sure that you know, nothing crazy

636
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: was going to happen. But you know, so would the

637
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: roofs have been in the position to same like they

638
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: should have. Like that's what I thought, you know, That's

639
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: why I assume they just saw him don't leave, because

640
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Speaker 1: I mean they were worked there. The house had a

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Speaker 1: steep um see at this point when it was really smoky,

642
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Speaker 1: they had to get down off the roof there because

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Speaker 1: that's you know, and that's why I assumed, you know,

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Speaker 1: that Chase had heard them running around or whatever. I

645
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Speaker 1: don't even know how he was sleeping with all that noise, Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've been told that you had a big

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Speaker 1: black bag of stuff you threw away a dumpster. What

648
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Speaker 1: was It's a big black bag, probably ceiling tiles, all

649
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Speaker 1: kinds of crap. I mean, I'm cosmlutely redoing the house.

650
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Speaker 1: I mean, the whole dumpster thing is kind of ridiculous

651
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Speaker 1: to me because I had all my neighbors story stuff

652
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Speaker 1: in it. Like, I mean, it was just why do

653
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: you say everybody's wanting to figure at you, because I'm

654
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Speaker 1: the person that nobody knows and I'm just like that

655
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: odd piece and his disappearance doesn't make sense, But in

656
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: a way it does. If he kept telling people who

657
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Speaker 1: stuff leave and get live in the woods. Are you

658
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Speaker 1: sure about that? Yeah? That was I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: well known to you. I'm pretty sure. I mean that

660
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Speaker 1: he said that. I think his mom even knows that.

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Speaker 1: Like how badly do you think he had Amanda with that?

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Speaker 1: I mean bad enough to where they she would just

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Speaker 1: throw him out of the car like randomly because they

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Speaker 1: want to find in front of the kids and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know that was. Uh do you think

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Speaker 1: he would actually leave his children? I you know, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have thought that, you know, But I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: could say somebody leaving their wife that if they fought

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think that he would have left

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Speaker 1: for a significant period of time, but definitely a short

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Speaker 1: been on the case from the very very beginning. Daniel

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Speaker 1: reporting from CBS forty six News. So, after nearly three

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Speaker 1: years of trying to find her son, with volunteers that

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Speaker 1: call themselves Team Chase on the case along with us,

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Speaker 1: along with you, Daniel, after begging police to bring dogs

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Speaker 1: out to the house where he was last seen with

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Speaker 1: his buddy Brad Clements, they finally do it. And what

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Speaker 1: do they find, Daniel Wilkerson. They find human remains. The

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Speaker 1: dogs hit on human remains. We first took the dogs

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Speaker 1: into the house the basement, Uh, they didn't find anything.

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Speaker 1: After looking throughout the house, came out, turned to the left,

716
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: right behind the back door, under a deck. The first

717
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: dogs set on a place and then they went and

718
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Speaker 1: got another dog, and that dog set in the same area.

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Speaker 1: And I tell you, we were all just blown away, amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 1: With me is Daniel Wilkerson News your part of where

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Speaker 1: CBS forty six News in Atlanta, who's been on the

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Speaker 1: case from the very beginning, Daniel, you saw Brad Clements

723
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Speaker 1: in court and it just takes me back to the

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Speaker 1: time that you and I were banging on his door

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00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 1: and he opens up and I sat on his bed

726
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: for I guess what, three hours. He kept trying to

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Speaker 1: make up excuses to get away, like I need to

728
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Speaker 1: take shower, and I'm like, I also sit here, I'm fine,

729
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: and he seemed like such a laid back guy. What's

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Speaker 1: the status on his so called best friends case right now? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's been indict at Nancy. We're waiting to see if

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Speaker 1: there's a way that if he makes a deal, he

733
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Speaker 1: will be able to tell the story what happened that night.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that's what the family is waiting for. Of course,

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Speaker 1: at this point, you know, he's only been charged with

736
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Speaker 1: hiding the body, and so because they couldn't get a

737
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: cause of death, we don't know, you know, how it

738
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: all went down, and so that's what we're waiting on

739
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: right now. And the sums sem to think that he

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Speaker 1: will try to strike a deal, and as you know,

741
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: the time for hiding a body is nothing like it

742
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: is for other charges like murder. Well, I think they

743
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: should take it to try on a jury decide what happened.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because if it were an innocent cause of

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Speaker 1: death c D, why would you lie? I mean, come on, Daniel,

746
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: if you had a heart attack and killed over right now,

747
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: God forbid, trust me, I would not drag your body

748
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Speaker 1: to the backyard and bury it under a slab and

749
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: then poor a slab of some men iver it? Sure

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Speaker 1: and yeah and and a lot of the evidence Nancy

751
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: is gone because it took so long to find him,

752
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: So there's you know, trying to find evidence in the ground,

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Speaker 1: the leak it with you know, what could have been

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00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: in the house at the time is it would probably

755
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: be nearly impossible. Let me ask you this, Why did

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Speaker 1: it take three years to bring cadaver dogs to the

757
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: location for this Iraqi war Vett was last seen alive?

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00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: What three years? And I asked that question of the

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Speaker 1: district attorney the other day and I said, hey, how

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the job that the police

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00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: department did? And he it seemed to think they had

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00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: done a great job. And I said, well, wouldn't simple

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Speaker 1: police work have brought dogs to that backyard. And you remember, Nancy,

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: it was a shallow grave. So you would think if they,

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Speaker 1: you know, had done that, maybe even a month after

766
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: he went missing, those dogs would have hit then. But

767
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: instead this family had to wait what more than three

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Speaker 1: years to only find him in the very backyard of

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Speaker 1: the home where he was last seen. Did they give

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Speaker 1: you an answer why they waited three years to send

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Speaker 1: out dogs because that destroyed the evidence the bodies decomposed.

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00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: You're right and well. When I asked the discal attorney

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Speaker 1: the other day whether or not they had taken dogs back,

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Speaker 1: he act like he didn't know. So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: something I'll be digging into. I'm sure you will, because

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00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: simple police work would have found Chase Man or even

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Speaker 1: bring in volunteer dogs. I mean, anything, just anything. And

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You think there's a deal

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Speaker 1: in the works. I don't like that at all. When

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Speaker 1: I spoke with the district attorney, he didn't indicate. But

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Speaker 1: just speaking with the investigators, I think that they will

782
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Speaker 1: try to give bread a deal. I really do. And

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Speaker 1: one of the things you may understand it is better

784
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: the district attorney says that when it comes to you know,

785
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: trying to get a story out of him. He didn't

786
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Speaker 1: know whether that was best simply because a person, I

787
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: guess just trying to get a deal could just come

788
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Speaker 1: up with something. So who knows if we'll even get

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Speaker 1: the truth from Brad Clement. If I can tell you

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Speaker 1: this right now, we spent we spent so much time

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Speaker 1: with him. Of course you're not going to get the

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Speaker 1: truth out of him. He's never going to tell the truth.

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Speaker 1: So why bother cutting a deal for a lie? It's

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Speaker 1: going to be a lie? Okay, I mean, what should

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Speaker 1: I believe him or my lion eyes? Chase Master was

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Speaker 1: at his home, he disappeared. Brad Clement's conducted a very

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00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: intricate cover up and held up the lie for three years,

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00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: continued feeding the lie with more lies. He buried the

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Speaker 1: body in a shallow grave. He then covered it with

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Speaker 1: a slab of cement and has a deck on top

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Speaker 1: of it. You don't do that when it's an accidental

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Speaker 1: or natural cause of death. Bam. Some people would argue, oh, well,

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00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: they were both doing drugs and he didn't want to

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00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: get found out. Well that get get yourself clean and sober.

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00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: And then Collins say, my buddy has odd. If you

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Speaker 1: have an accidental or natural cause of death, you don't

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Speaker 1: drag the body to the backyard and bury it in

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Speaker 1: the dark of night. That's not how that goes down. Daniel. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing I keep thinking about, Nancy, looking

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Speaker 1: at that autopsy, looking at the way that police say

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Speaker 1: in the medical examiner says Brad prepared the body before

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Speaker 1: he buried it. What does that mean? There were details

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Speaker 1: his arms and hands were bound, his feet were bound,

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Speaker 1: he was wrapped up. And so from the autopsy, it

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00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: seems as if Brad, if he did this, he spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time with that body before he buried it.

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00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: And that's what you know, police are saying. And and

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Speaker 1: just the just the thought of that. So you had

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Speaker 1: all that time in between the time when you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever happened, and when you put him in the ground.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy to think that a person

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Speaker 1: who is not a mortician or you know, who deals

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Speaker 1: with dead bodies could spend that much time with a

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Speaker 1: dead body. You know, Daniel Wilkerson, after all that family,

825
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: all those friends have been through his wife, a man

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Speaker 1: of the children are left without a dad, those little girls,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna cut a deal. Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: this thing needs to be taken to trial and prosecuted

829
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Speaker 1: like there ain't no tomorrow. Uh uh. Nothing is gonna

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Speaker 1: do but hard jail time for the death of this

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Speaker 1: young son, father, husband and Iraqi Warvett. That is the

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Speaker 1: very least we can do. Now. If a jury wants

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Speaker 1: to let him go, that's on them. But it would

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Speaker 1: be a cold a in h G double l before

835
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Speaker 1: I would let this thing go on a cheap plea.

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Speaker 1: The very thought of Brad Clement's tying up Chase's body

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Speaker 1: so he could bury it in the dirt in the

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Speaker 1: backyard in Oh, Daniel, No, And you were there when

839
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Speaker 1: he met with Chase his mother. Oh, when I look

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Speaker 1: back on that, it just makes me sick. Describe it.

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Speaker 1: We had been at the hotel with brad Clement, and

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00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: we knew we had to get him to the mother

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00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: to chase his mother, you know, because we didn't want

844
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: him to whittle away from us. So as you know,

845
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: we all got in the car, we went to my

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00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: station and Stephanie met brad Clement for the first time

847
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: and she was just shaking. If you you'll recall, don't

848
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: you remember the way he lied to her, and she

849
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: hugged him and was trying to get the truth out

850
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Speaker 1: of him, and it was very awkward. And even sitting there,

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Speaker 1: even sitting there, Nancy, he you know, I had heard

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