1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Did you know that the average American visits twenty eight 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: different types of doctors before they die, seventeen point six 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: prescriptions are filled per person each year, and nineteen percent 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: of adult women taken antidepressant. The Financial Times was out 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: with an article recently talking about how there's been a 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: dramatic rise in cancer in millennials. For men, sperm count 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: has decreased dramatically as infertility rises in women. So why 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: are Americans so unhealthy? What's behind it? We'll talk to 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: a guy who has been on a mission to expose 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: big food, big pharma and how they're collaborating to kill 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: us as Americans. His name is Calli Means. He's the 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: founder of True med. It's a company that issues prescriptions 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: for food and exercise, which enables tax free spending on 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: items that actually promote health, which you would think would 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: be the goal in all this, but it doesn't seem 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: to be. He's also writing a book right now with 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: his sister, doctor Casey Means, about food is medicine and 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: how we could be healthier as Americans. His journey on 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: all this started because he used to be a consultant 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: for food and pharma companies back in the day. Now 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: he's trying to expose these practices that are killing us 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: and killing Americans. I think you're really going to enjoy 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: this conversation. It's an important one about how big food 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: and big pharma are killing us. CALLI means us next Well, Cally, 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having this conversation. You know, we 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: were talking a little bit before we got started and 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying to be healthier. I did 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: eat Twizzlers today, so like, I laugh at that, but 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: they probably will kill me. But trying to work on 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: health and then that's what you do. So I think 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: this will be a really interesting conversation. I'm looking forward 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: to it. 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 2: Oh, pumped to be here. You know, Kelly. 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: As I say that, I mean, we do have so 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: many Americans that are obese. You know, Americans are unhealthy. 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Why are so many Americans unhealthy? 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even to your initial comment, I think 38 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: we've been conditioned to blame ourselves, and I think the 39 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: medical condition is basically you know, my sister went to 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: Stanford med school and she said the first day, from 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: the first day on their train that the American patients 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: are lazy. They're gonna eat their Twizzlers. They're gonna eat 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: their Big Max, They're gonna eat their soda, and their 44 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: medical system is there to pick up the rest. And obviously, 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: you know, I think as conservatives, personal accountability is really important. 46 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: But when you look around America right now and you 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: look at eighty percent of Americans adults overweight or obese. 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: You look at children, You look at thirty percent of 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: kids now having pre diabetes, which would have been unthinkable 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: a generation ago. You look at twenty five percent of 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: teenagers having fatty liver disease, which you only used to 52 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: see in elderly alcoholics not too long ago. You see 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: this condition after condition just exponentially skyrocketing. And I just 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: refuse to believe that the American people have become frankly 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: more suicidal. You know, life expecting is going down, diseases 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: are going up, or really wanting to live more miserable, 57 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: shorter lives. I don't think that's been as a flip 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: that switched in the American psyche in the past forty years. 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: You've really got to look at some really the two 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: largest institutions by many measures in the country, the food 61 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: industry and the health care industry. The health care industry 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: is the largest and fastest growing industry in the country. 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, I just refused to believe that the American 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: people have in the past generation, you know what, been 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: systematically have the death wish that they want to live shorter, 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: less happy lives and be much sicker. I mean, these 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: rates of every condition you know, from heart disease, diabetes, cancer, depression, 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, all these conditions which I'd argue are highly 69 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: tied to food have been skyrocketing, and I really think 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: it boils down. You know when you look at the institutions, 71 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: you know, when you really have to particularly when you 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: have all these stats skyrocketing among kids, you've got to 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: ask what the systemic triggers are. And the triggers I'm 74 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: seeing from my early career working for food and pharma 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: companies now trying to change the incentives is we have 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: this devil's bargains so food companies when food is cheaper 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: and more addictive. And you would expect the medical system 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: to be ringing the alarm bell about that, you know, 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: when eighty five percent of deaths in the United States 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: are tied to preventable conditions tied to food, But actually 81 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: the healthcare industry, as I said, has become the largest 82 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: and the fastest growing industry in the United States. By 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: treating sick patients, it necessitates patients to be sicker for 84 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: longer periods of time to grow, and that's exactly what happens. 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: So the medical system is almost universally silent about why 86 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: we're getting sick, and ninety five percent of healthcare dollars 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: go towards managing conditions after we get sick. So you 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: have food almost you know, just just clearly making us sicker, 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: more infertile, more depressed, and more overweight, and you have 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: the medical system shamefully, I would argue, standing silent. So 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: that's the dynamic I'm really trying to talk about. And 92 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: I think actually feeling it back is easier than we think. 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 2: But we have to understand why everyone around us seems 94 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: to be getting sicker, you know. 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: And I joke around with it, but I do. I 96 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: try to practice, you know. I eate healthy like ninety 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: percent of time. I work out a lot because I do, 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: you know, take it serious. I want to live along 99 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: in healthy life. What would happen to big pharma if 100 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: we focused on what we ate and what we eat. 101 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: Short term, this would destroy the economy. In the short term, 102 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: healthcare is the most employed industry. It's twenty percent of GDP. 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: It's growing two times more than GDP, So in twenty 104 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: years or so, it'll be forty percent of GDP. That 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: will that will be the depth of America. Like if 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: the American experiment falls and ceases to exist, then number 107 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: one reason will be because we drove ourselves bankrupt while 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: getting sicker, fout or more depressed and more infertile. So 109 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: right now, this is a huge part of the economy. 110 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: It's the biggest part of the economy, the inner invention 111 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: based healthcare system. I was recently driving in the South 112 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: and there were billboard saying we're hiring nurses, no criminal 113 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: background check. There's just the sensatiable, appetitive growth of this industry, 114 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: which again from Republicans to Democrats in states, when they're 115 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: opening these massive new hospitals, it is saying jobs, jobs, jobs, 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: it's medical progress. But the fact that every city in 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: the United States, the largest and most gleaming building is 118 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: a new childhood you know, children's hospital or children's cardiology center. 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: That's not a progress. This is a big problem. So 120 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: right now pharma, which I tie to the intervention based 121 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: system where it's tied in where every institution that touches 122 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: our health makes more money when we're sick. That's an 123 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: important part of the economy. If we unreal that, which 124 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: we have to because mathematically we're going to go bankrupt, 125 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: there would be big economic dislocations in the short term 126 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: and the long term. It would unleash human capital in 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: this country. It would solve our budget problems, and on 128 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: these human capital. Right now, we spend significantly more from 129 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: the US budget on caring for diabetics than we do 130 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: on military defense and intelligence. You know, we are going 131 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: to go bankrupt because of this issue. So yeah, it'd 132 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: be a short term dislocation, but it's absolutely necessary for 133 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: the long term economic growth and vibrancy of the United 134 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: States because as you as you alluded to, there's nothing 135 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: more important for public policy. The first order issue in 136 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: our country is the happiness and health of our population. 137 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: And it's almost like we're scoring an own goal and 138 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: subsidizing terrible food that's making us sick and really just 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: pouring gasoline on that, not causing the root cost. So 140 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: I think when you really tie it down, this is 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: the biggest issue we face. 142 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: Well, even when I say, you know, I try to 143 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: eat healthy, what does healthy look like? I mean, one 144 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: of the problems, at least what we you know, saw 145 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: during COVID is how much the NIH controls studies in 146 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: America and controls, you know, studies through the grant process 147 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. And a lot of studies 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: are funded by someone some organization with the purpose, with 149 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the message, with the intention of, you know, essentially pushing 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: propaganda on us. So when I say healthy, you know, 151 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: how do you figure out what healthy actually is? Given 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the dynamic of you know, all these studies that we 153 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: see are you know, essentially being sponsored by a company 154 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: or an individual with an agenda. 155 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: So let's look at doctor Faucci. Doctor Fauci was in 156 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: charge of overseeing autoimmune conditions, really a lot of oversiding 157 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: the chronic disease management of the past forty years. During 158 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: that time, the percentage of Americans chronic conditions went from 159 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: under twenty percent to over sixty percent. Now while he 160 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: funded trillions of dollars the NIH during that time on 161 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: research that ostensibly was to lower chronic conditions. So what 162 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: do we have with government agencies the NIH is a 163 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: grant making organization, so you have bureaucrats at the NAH 164 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: who are able to take consulting payments from pharma or 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: if they're doing nutrition, many take consulting payments direct bribes 166 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: from food company and then ninety plus percent of the 167 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: NIH and federal budgets on health it's actually they're not 168 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: doing the research themselves. They're grant making, and they're they're 169 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: able to issue those grants to conflicted researchers. And by 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: studies from Pro Publica and of their outlets show that 171 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: eighty to ninety percent of all research funding, you know, 172 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: goes to somebody that has a conflict. So that's certainly 173 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: happening with pharma, where it's just a wash in pharmacy, 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: where there's this revolving door where leaders from the NIH, 175 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: or you know, Scott Gottlieb who led the FDA which 176 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: oversees pharma, went straight to the Bard of Pfizer. You know, 177 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: this is just well established, just a cesspool. It's also 178 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: the case with nutrition. So food companies interestingly contribute eleven 179 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: times more money to foundational and ternation research than the NIH, 180 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: and the majority of NIH funding is going to those 181 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: same studies. They're actually able. The NIH is able to 182 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: contribute money to conflicted studies. So actually, the most pre 183 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: eminent nutrition study of the past five years, it's called 184 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: the Food Compass. This was millions of dollars from the NIH, 185 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: released with the Nhceal and Tough Nutrition School, one of 186 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: the pre eminent nutrition schools. It was also funded by 187 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: processed food companies. And this this got some coverage and 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: talked to Jesse Waters and some others about this, but 189 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: this said that lucky charms is healthier than beef, and 190 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 2: hiding net sharers was healthier than eggs. This this is 191 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: an NAH the pre eminen nutrition study today. So that's 192 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: what you get. And having worked for the food companies 193 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: early in my career and steering really helping to actually 194 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: create a strategy for research funding, I was blown away 195 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: that researchers, the toughs at Harvard, at Stanford, at pre 196 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: eminent institutions, are basically nothing more than pr tools of 197 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: big food. It was just a list of Harvard professors, 198 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: Tough professors, professors at prominent schools. We give them millions 199 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: of dollars and they'd create studies saying still to this day, 200 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: leading institutions are question whether sugar causes obesity, you know, 201 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: so that that's how the game is playing. The last 202 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: point i'd make you know, having seen behind the kernel 203 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 2: a little bit with the food companies, is that confusion 204 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: is the goal. So there's been fifty thousand pure review 205 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: nutrition studies in just the last two years, and the 206 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: goal is that you get these new studies saying well, 207 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: this is good, this is bad, this is good, this 208 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: confusion when in reality, humans are the only animals that 209 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: are systematically obese. We're the only animals that systematic have 210 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: chronic rates of diabetes, heart disease, cancer. Humans and animals 211 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: we've domesticated. So if you take a dog like a 212 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: dog a pet, they have an over fifty percent cancer rate, 213 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: over fifty percent depression rate, So fifty percent of dogs 214 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: get cancer, okay, and over fifty percent obc rate. If 215 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 2: you measure dogs, wolves in the wild have a one 216 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: percent cancer rate. The depression rate doesn't register, and they 217 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: are not obese. There's not a problem of obese drafts 218 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: and lions or any animal in the wild. This only 219 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: happens when we get the experts involved. That's the only 220 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: difference between humans and every literally every other animal in 221 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: the world. So I think we really have been misled, 222 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: just as we have with the COVID and the pharmaceutical policies. 223 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: We've been completely misled to literally question on TikTok. You know, 224 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: you have influencers literally questioning even whether natural food versus 225 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: processed food, which one is better? This is literally a 226 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: debate in nutrition communities. 227 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break more with Cali on 228 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the other side. What percentage of what we are told 229 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: about health and nutrition is true? 230 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: The food companies spend a lot of times more than 231 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: ANAH and nutrition sites, and the vast for drave and 232 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: AHE funding goes to conflicted studies. I would treat any 233 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: nutrition study as a publications document for big food. You know, 234 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: working for big food, you know watching specifically Hoke and 235 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: PEPSTI the interest organization from them, watching hundreds of millions 236 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: of dollars go to really be the backbone of nutritional 237 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: research from Coke and other processed food companies. I can 238 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: tell you it's actually illegal for companies to spend that 239 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: type of money without a return. It's against their fiduciary duty. 240 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: These people are very smart. They're spending that for a return. 241 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: So I just that's this is my point, and it 242 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: gets to very simple. We have been I think it's 243 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: actually this represents a spiritual crisis because we have actually 244 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: been so being down and taken away from any awe 245 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: or curiosity or ability or empowerment to ask questions about 246 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: our bodies. I mean, just think about this. You know, 247 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: a child is born, you go into the doctor. You 248 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: are a terrible parent for even asking a question about 249 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: the seventy one shots that child is supposed to take 250 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: before the day turned six. And then you're anti science 251 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: if you questioned any of this dietary philosophy that's being 252 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: pushed on that child, as fifty percent of teenagers or 253 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: or obsa a wait, and parents are battered to not 254 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: question the science you know, on any of this stuff 255 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: when kids are being fed into a to a wood chip, 256 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: or essentially for their health. We've been battered to trust 257 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: the science when the science has completely and utterly failed us. 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: We've also been told it's complicated when every other animal 259 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: in the world implicitly seems to figure this stuff out. 260 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: So I truly would would look at the record of 261 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: the current nutrition and health apparatus, look at the fact 262 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: that the rates of every chronic condition, which lead to 263 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: eighty five percent of deaths in the United States and 264 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: eighty five percent healthcare costs, are off the charts. We've 265 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: been completely failed. So yeah, I mean, listen to your 266 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: doctor when it comes to chronic conditions. I guess, you know, 267 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: maybe look at a study, but they deserve no benefit 268 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: of the doubt. You know, you often have guests come 269 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: on here with the medical stuff and say, you know, 270 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: consult your doctor. You maybe should consult your doctor, but 271 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: you should not trust your doctor when it comes to preventing, 272 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: reversing lifestyle squad of conditions. 273 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I found out during COVID that doctors 274 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: actually don't know a whole lot. I mean, I had 275 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: some that tried to convince me to get the COVID vaccine, 276 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: and then upon pressuring them and asking additional probing questions, 277 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: they couldn't answer them or their answers didn't make sense. 278 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: And actually, you know, going through with getting the cod 279 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm more suspicious of everything and about a 280 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: bit of doctor's head off who asked me if I 281 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: wanted to get the flu shut. So I'm suspicious of 282 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: everything now. 283 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: You'd mentioned. Yeah. 284 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if everyone's you know, they're all liars, right. 285 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, our government lies to us and they make 286 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: money off of it. And then you know, big pharma 287 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: makes money, and as does the food companies. As you 288 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: pointed out, you know, I wanted to ask you you'd 289 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: mentioned infertility earlier, which is a bit concern particularly you know, look, 290 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I haven't had kids yet. I want kids, you know, 291 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: I know a lot of my friends is this is 292 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: something that's discussed and is concerning the mill sperm count 293 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: has reduced significantly over the years, miscarriages have gone up. 294 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: Why Yeah, I think this is the biggest warning sign 295 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: there is. And to people my face, family and close 296 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: to be our male and female are struggling with fertility 297 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: issues and these just to hammer home that you just said, 298 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: this is off the charts right now. So just a 299 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: high level, our bodies, our core evolutionary functions are really 300 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: like shutting down. I mean, if there is not a 301 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: more blatant sign our bodies could send us, then male 302 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: sperm count down by some measures seventy percent in a generation, 303 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: and then PCOS, which is the leading cause of female infertility, 304 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: skyrocketing by some measures twenty five percent of women experiencing it. 305 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, our core evolutionary purpose on this earth is 306 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: actually like really shutting down. We are truly on a 307 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: trajectory of becoming an infertile population. And I think this 308 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: represents the dynamic of that devil's bargain. So, you know, 309 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: we we we fundamentally through our incentive of the of 310 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: society right now, you know, we're much more sedentary. Only 311 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: twenty percent of twenty one year old males are eligible 312 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: to join the military, only twenty percent, eighty percent are 313 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: not eligible based on their fitness. We are, you know, 314 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: systematically like obst RT. Eighty percent of adults are a 315 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: beast or overweight. We're sleeping two hours less, We're you know, 316 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: a sedentary lifestyle and sunless rooms. So so fundamentally like 317 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: we're doing a science experiment on ourselves. And then we're 318 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: throwing up our hands and wondering why all these things 319 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: are happening, including infertility. So just take PCOS and I 320 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: just I would just like, I think this is a 321 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: very important point that it's criminal doctors don't talk about 322 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: PCOS is insulin resistance. PCOS is the same trigger as diabetes. 323 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: It literally is the same thing. The foundational trigger of 324 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: what causes the leading cause of infertility for women PCOS 325 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: is insulin resistance, which is which is UH diabetes is 326 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: simply a an arbitrary marker along the line of fast 327 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: and glucose, which is a which is an indicator of 328 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: insulin resistance, which which which means our cells are not 329 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: processing UH energy correctly, which is almost entirely tied to 330 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: food and other metabolic habits like exercise. You can reverse 331 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: this almost anyone can. And what happens is you have 332 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: women UH not even told that, and just funneled into 333 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: this highly invasive, highly intervention based UH system where you know, 334 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 2: leading UH fertility UH doctors that I know from Harvard 335 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: and Stanford actually don't even fully understand the link between 336 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: UH insulin resistance and UH pc us. And obviously, if 337 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: if patients understand how to eat healthy and and reverse 338 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: the underlying cause of their infertility, that doesn't make the 339 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: hospitally many. But obviously I V and these other very 340 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: invasive procedures do. So it sounds so simple, but you 341 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: know the way we treat our body, you know our biomarkers. 342 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: But but if you I just say this, and you 343 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: know everyone's on their own journey, but you know your 344 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: core biomarkers around blood sugar levels, cholesterol levels of things 345 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: you get for free, your annual checkup, really having curiosity 346 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: if those are not on the right levels and how 347 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: to bring those down. It really is an indicator and 348 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: highly tied to fertility like most other conditions, but fertility 349 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: highly tied. And then as far as male sperm count 350 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: and male fertility issues, you know, male testosterone, male sperm 351 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: accounts plummeting, and you know, we kind of throw up 352 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 2: our hands, wonder why we throw a bunch of pills 353 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 2: and procedures and hormone therapy is at the issue. But 354 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: it's like, is that man exercising, is that man in 355 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: the sun. Is that person eating the right amount of protein? 356 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 2: Is that person feeling theirselves with the right things? Is 357 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: that person not a ton of pharmaceuticals. It's like it's 358 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: like we're just ignoring this. And yeah, I as a 359 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: as a conservative, you know, I take it to just 360 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: the force first order issue. This isn't the free market 361 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: playing out. We're we've actually we've bastardized the free market 362 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: right right through pharma spending five times more than the 363 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 2: oil industry on lobbying through a government takeover of these industries. 364 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: We have a totally rigged system where we're literally our 365 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: fertility is shutting down. So so that's crushing free will 366 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: in a way, it's crushing human capital. So the free 367 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: market solution is calling this stuff out and getting on 368 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: a more even playing field where we're not just funneled 369 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: into this innervation base. You know, people just aren't told, 370 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: people aren't incentivized that everything that that that pc OS, 371 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: that diabetes, that heart disease, these things all result from 372 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: the same thing. And least I if I do this 373 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: one more story. You know, I've talked about this before, 374 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: but a huge emphasis for me on this is my mom. 375 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: You know, abruptly in twenty twenty one got pay cred 376 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: of cancer and twelve days later died, and it was 377 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: it was It was obviously shocking and she was our 378 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: best friend. But in a way it really heightened this 379 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: mission because the oncologists at Stanford where she was dying 380 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: said this was unlucky her cancer. But you go back 381 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: forty years and she had some fertility issues. Having me, 382 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: I was twelve pounds, which which is actually an indicator 383 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 2: of metabolic dysfunction that she probably you know, had predestational diabetes. Oh, 384 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: that's fine. She had high cholesterol, took a stant and 385 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 2: high blood sugar, took that form, and she had all 386 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: of these conditions, high blood pressure. Took a pill for that. 387 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: So she was on five pills by the time she 388 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: was seventy. Oh that's normal. Eighty percent you know, or 389 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: excuse me, forty percent of people your age on a 390 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: stat No problem. It was all these rights of passages, 391 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 2: all these siloed issues, you know, not ringing the arm 392 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: bell forty years ago when I was born large, When 393 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: she had to statial diabetes, when she had fertility issues, 394 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: that could be a warning sign, that could be actually 395 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: a gift that you actually have some underlying metabolic dysfunction 396 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: that will eventually lead to something more serious later. But no, 397 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: it was. It was an isolated pill masking the issue 398 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: each time, and then oh tough break when when when 399 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: she ends up dying. Cancer isn't random. Alzheimer's is now 400 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: called type three diabetes. It's so tied to blood sugar, 401 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: just regulation what we're eating. If you have stable blood sugar, 402 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 2: which I really believe is a barometer on on your 403 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: diet and lifestyle and is very under control and can 404 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: be reversed in a matter of months with the right 405 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: you know, with the right interventions, you are not going 406 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: to die of covid, Like you are not going to 407 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: get Alzheimer's, you have a your by definition, aren't going 408 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: to get diabetes. You have almost a zero percent chance 409 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: of getting heart disease, and just go down the list. 410 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: The fact that our medical leaders aren't saying this like 411 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 2: in Unison, the fact that ninety five percent of the 412 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: people that make our nutrition guidelines are directly paid by 413 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: food companies. The fact that doctor Fauci was only talking 414 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: about a marginal pharmaceutical solution instead of the fact that 415 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: COVID only killed metabolic and healthy people Like this is 416 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: a scandal, and it's because the largest industry in the 417 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: country actually profits from the fact that our food system 418 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: has been totally totally corrupted. 419 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean, they have to know they're killing us. 420 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: I go back and forth on that, and that's what 421 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people hit on, is what you know, 422 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: what's like, what's the motivation here? And I'll tell you 423 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: I've I've had some very dark views on this and 424 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: kind of modulate, you know, based on the day, I 425 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: would say this. I think the beauty of the system 426 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: in a way is that everyone has some plausible deniability, right, 427 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: Like nobody is response for asking why everyone's getting sick. Right. 428 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: You know, these obestie clinics that are popping up, they're 429 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: trying to help pay patients, you know, manage their obeseity, 430 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: give them drugs and surgeries. They're not asking why people 431 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: are getting obese. They fundamentally lose money. If those patients 432 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: learn to eat better and actually manage, you know, they're 433 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: they're incentivized, you know, for these lifetime drugs, this new 434 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: zembic thing and surgeries, and they can probably maybe go 435 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: to sleep at night or convince themselves to Doctor Fauci 436 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: feels like he's giving grants to, you know, to researchers 437 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: to research disease, uh, not really taking responsibility for the 438 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: fact that he's responsible for trillions of dollars. I think 439 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: over his career at the in age, it's like almost 440 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: a trillion dollars of research funding for chronic disease management 441 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: and chronic disease race have exploded, which is in the 442 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: interest of everyone he's funding so so so I think 443 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: there is potentials. But if you look at doctors right now, 444 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 2: they have the highest suicide rate and the highest burnout 445 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: rate of any profession. If you talk to any doctor 446 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 2: off the record at any hospital in America, they'll say 447 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: something's very wrong. They'll say their system is not helping patients. 448 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: The patients aren't getting better. And I think when you 449 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: look at that suicide rate, which is actually at epidemic 450 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 2: levels for doctors, you don't you know, missionaries who are 451 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: working hard don't commit suicide at epidemic rates. People that 452 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: believe in what they're doing. They've actually the New York Times, 453 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: which they were right in this case, actually to the 454 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 2: study of doctors recently has said they have the same 455 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: chronic across the medical field, the same psychological problem that 456 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: soldiers who for forced to commit war crimes have, that 457 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: doctors are actually realizing and have this PTSD feeling because 458 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: they got in for the right reasons, but actually understand 459 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: that they're actually committing crimes against humanity essentially. So I 460 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: actually do think there's this awareness building, you know, I 461 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: think we all know good doctors, but I do think 462 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: there is a lack of moral courage among leaders in 463 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: the medical industry among pharmaceutical leaders, hospital leaders, doctors to 464 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 2: not raise their hand and say this has to end. 465 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: Are our voracious appetite as a system for more and 466 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: more sick patients to grow? It's going to destroy the country. 467 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: What are the assumptions of a brand new pediatric cardiology center? 468 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: The loans that underwrote the building of that hospital necessitate 469 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: more kids with heart problems? It will the loan that 470 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: Goldman Sachs gave that hospital, some big bank will default 471 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: if more kids don't get sick. The new obeste clinics 472 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: that they're building will go bankrupt and people will be 473 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: fired if more people don't get obese. Like you just 474 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: have to look at the banks that are underwriting and 475 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: investing in this industry and look at their models, and 476 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: look when they're underwriting the new obestie drug they have 477 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: rates of obestie going up as the drugists prescribe more. 478 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: That's what the dollars tell us. That's what history tells us. 479 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 2: But we're being fast light had been told that more 480 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: and more like siloed drugs that just band aid the 481 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: problem instead of the core issue, which is food, are 482 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: going to work. We're being played for fools, and it 483 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: unfortunately keeps working well. 484 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: And not only a band aid, but I mean it's 485 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: a vicious cycle because we're being encouraged to eat food 486 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: that's making us sick, then put on medicine, and then 487 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: what are the consequences of the medicine? Like what are 488 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: the consequences of taking ozembic for the future, or you know, 489 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: what are the consequences of the COVID vaccine for someone 490 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: who was never at risk from COVID in the first 491 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: place and was forced to get the vaccine, or even 492 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: on infertility to be honest, like, I don't have any 493 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: evidence of this, but I have concerned about what birth 494 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: control that they give young women over a long period 495 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: of time does to a woman's body. Is that introducing 496 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: something unnatural to a woman? Is that creating? And you know, 497 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: and so like, what are the consequences of the things 498 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: that are quote unquote supposed to fix us? 499 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: Well, let's just take a case study of a child 500 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: to answer that question. So the America, Thecavity Pediatrics, which 501 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: sets the standard of care for pediatric care pediatric management, 502 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: is their bulk of their budget comes from pharma. They 503 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: have been given millions of dollars by the Ozimpic maker, 504 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: and they recently said after just a sixty eight week study, 505 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: one of the shortest studies ever to approve a drug. 506 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: They have said that kids twelve years and up who 507 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: are overweight obese should be prescribed to ozempic, which is 508 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: a lifetime treatment. Okay, So let's take the forty five 509 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: percent of teenagers who are overweight obese. Okay, they inevitably 510 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: have high blood pressure, they nevertly have high blood sugar 511 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: back lesterol, overweight, they're put on ozempic. Okay, what are 512 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: they being told when they are given ozmpic. The core 513 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: doctors who are speaking out about OBC, doctor Fatima Stanford, 514 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: who is at Harvard, who was on sixty minutes and 515 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: it's paid for biozempic stead OBESI is a brain disease. 516 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: Children have been completely misled to say it's tied to 517 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: diet or lifestyle. She literally said this you can google 518 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: in sixty minutes. That is the message from an actually 519 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: has to be the message from OBC doctors, because if 520 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: you establish the OBC is under control, you can't label 521 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: as a disease that we need government funding to treat 522 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: that people have no control over, so abest medicine field 523 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: has completely washed their hands and set OBEs is not 524 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: due to what you do, it's genetic, okay. So the 525 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: kid being given ozimpic is told it's not about food, 526 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: so that kid takes the ozempic and there's the core 527 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: side effects. There's a black box warning on on on 528 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: thyroid cancer. The EU has actually put a halt to 529 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: prescriptions because it's causing such high rates of suicidal aviation 530 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: and depression, which makes total sense because the drug is 531 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: gas or intentional dysfunction, and ninety five percent of our 532 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: serotonin is in our gut, which regulates our happiness, and 533 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: the drug is a weapon of mass destruction for the gut. 534 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: By definition, it's it's it's it's essentially ejectable bolimia, which 535 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: is which is what it is. So there's a host 536 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: of effects. But even if the drug worked perfectly, you're 537 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: telling that child, don't worry about what you eat. So 538 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: maybe they're eating what twenty percent less crappy food, but 539 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: they're still fueling their celves with crappy food. So they're 540 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: going to get on a stand obviously, which you know 541 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: forty percent of men over forty you're on, so they're 542 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: going to get on a stand. There's huge side effects 543 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: with stands that are increasing or coming out. Joe Rogan 544 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,719 Speaker 2: just did a big episode on this, but stands are 545 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: very problematic. But even if they were perfect, you're still 546 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: being told, oh, you now have your heart disease at Bay, 547 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: no problem, keep eating whatever you want. Then they inevitably 548 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: are on that format or insulin or something for diabetes. Shockingly, 549 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: the American Diabetes Association until twenty eighteen said that if 550 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: you take your diabees medication, you can eat whatever you want. 551 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: You can drink cokes, eat any food you want, as 552 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: much sugar as you want, as long as you take 553 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: your diabetes medication. Absolutely criminal, but that's the message people 554 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: are being told. They're being told that they're doing something 555 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: by taking the pill, but if they don't reverse the 556 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: underlying habits that are act actually causing all these comorbidities. 557 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: Where you're not going to play whack them hole with 558 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: the pill, you can literally, you know, as a as 559 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: a health strategy, take the four trillion dollars that we 560 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: spend on healthcare and actually like work to drive better 561 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: root cause outcomes. It sounds so simple. But that's the 562 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: way anyone would design the system. If they just came 563 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: with a blindfold on and saw the fact that fifty 564 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: percent of adults were pre diabetic or diabetics, eighty percent 565 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: worldbees all of the metabolic that's obviously what you would do. 566 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: You know, you'd work to take some of the poison 567 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: out of our food system. You wouldn't recommend from the 568 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: USDA that two year old should eat ten percent of 569 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: their diaz added sugar, which we do today. You wouldn't 570 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: subsidize sugar and ultra processed food, which we do, which 571 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: is a completely non conservative policy. You know, you would 572 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: just start to unwind the fact that we recommend and 573 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: subsidize poisonous food. You know, and I would personally pay 574 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: lower income folks on medicaid who are diabetic, who are 575 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: bankrupting our country, pay them to exercise, and just think 576 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: about incentives to get people. That would save us much 577 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: more than the fact, you know, a thirty year old 578 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: on Medicaid who's diabetic is costing our system the taxpayers, 579 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: millions of dollars over the course their life. Diabetes is 580 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: a brilliant disease for the medical system because it doesn't 581 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: kill you right away, but it guarantees you have more 582 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: colmorbidities to manage. So yeah, that's that's a quick grant. 583 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: On that quick break more on how big food and 584 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: big farmer are killing us. We're supposed to be, you know, 585 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: body positivity. You know it's okay to be you know. 586 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: The Financial Times recently had an article about the dramatic 587 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: rising cancer and millennials. Right, you had touched upon this earlier. 588 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: But how much of cancer is avoidable? 589 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Oh, my mom's Pancreatic cancer is highly tied to blood 590 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: sugar regulation and pre diabetes, diabetes, breast cancer. I can 591 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 2: just cannot stress this enough. Right, we all can understand 592 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: the link between smoking and lung cancer. Elevated blood sugar 593 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: you know they essentially pre diabetes or diabetes is as 594 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: predictive for many leading forms of cancer as smoking is 595 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: to lung cancer. Cancer is not random at all. As 596 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: I said, fifty percent of dogs we process crap we 597 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: give them have cancer. Cancer rates are demnimous in the 598 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: natural world, right, any animal can get cancer. This is 599 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: this is essentially a invention of what humans have done 600 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: to ourselves. And food is number one. But it's basic stuff, 601 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: it's food, sleep movement, environmental toxins. You know again, I 602 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: used to work for you know, b large consumer packaged 603 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: good companies and say it's a nanny state to regulate 604 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: the chemicals and substances in our food and personal care products. 605 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: But I think that actually I've been I was gaslighted 606 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: by the system that to call that nanny state. What's 607 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: nanny state is that corporations have ribed and corrupted the 608 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: so much that there are thousands of neurotoxins in our 609 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: household products and food that are banned in every other 610 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: developed country. That's not the free market. Actually, that's a 611 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: corruption of the market right there, that we don't have 612 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 2: oversight of proven neurotoxins in our in our food and 613 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: personal care products. So, you know, you go down this 614 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 2: rabbit hole. You look at healthcare influencers. They're basically ringing 615 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: alarm about everything. They're ringing alarm about shampoo, They're ringing 616 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: the laara about you know, what's in our air, what's 617 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: in our water, what's in our food? Uh but but 618 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: but but I will say, and this is how I 619 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: look at it. I won't trade our benefits of modern 620 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: society for everything. I think the US and capitalism has produced, 621 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: you know, the greatest I would not want to be 622 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 2: in any other society. But that does not mean we 623 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: haven't lost our way in some key areas, and uh, 624 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: we have been. Our systems have been corrupted, and we 625 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: absolutely should not be trusting the institutions that you know, 626 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: make the products that we put on our our children's 627 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: in our children's bodies, in our bodies. And this is 628 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: the tax we have to pay as I think, taking 629 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: more u trusting the system a little bit less, and 630 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: taking matters into their own hands more. But yeah, to 631 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 2: reel it all back. Obviously, this is tied to the 632 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: fact that cancer is rising dramatically among kids. They don't 633 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: call it early on set diabetes diabetes anymore. You know, 634 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: one third of all new diabetes cases among teenagers and 635 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: young adults. They used to call that early onset. It 636 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: used to be super rare. There's early onset Alzheimer's. They're 637 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: about to drop the early onset label because people so 638 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 2: much younger are getting dimensioned Alzheimer's now, So everything is 639 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 2: going younger, and it's all tied together. 640 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: So if someone's listening to this and they're saying, you know, what. 641 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let these assholes kill me with 642 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: their crappy food. I don't want to take you know, 643 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to make Big Pharma even richer by 644 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: taking their meds. What does a healthy lifestyle actually look like? 645 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: So on a one top down thing, I think we've 646 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: got to I think there's massive frustration on this issue. 647 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: But the reason that big food and big Pharma win 648 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: is because they're able to focus their efforts on specific legislation, 649 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: whereas it's very dispersed. But I think every parent in 650 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: the country is horrified by how sick kids are getting 651 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: and how overweight. One thing I just say is I 652 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: would encourage everyone to call, you know, their elected representatives. 653 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: The food stamp bill is up for renewal right now, 654 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: and they're about to continue to hand out to coke. 655 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: Coke is the number one item that we subsidize on 656 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 2: food stamps, and Senator Rubio and Senator Booker Biparison bill 657 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 2: just very simple, just not pay for sugar water with 658 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: a government nutrition program, which is totally letting down lower 659 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: income people. You know, single moms in such war depending 660 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: on this program to to have their kids by nutritious food. 661 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 2: So so call and support the Rubio Booker bill to 662 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 2: not have food stamps fund coke anymore. It's the number 663 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: one item on food stamps. But it's got to be 664 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: a bottom up, bottoms up revolution of one hundred percent. 665 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: And the key message I have is that we have 666 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 2: been completely lied to that things are complicated. If you 667 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: scan your life for three ingredients, you're getting eighty percent there. 668 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: So the three ingredients obviously are added sugar, which is everywhere. 669 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: Sugar consumption is up one hundred times and one hundred years. 670 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 2: Sugar is the most deadliest and I think most pernicious 671 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 2: drug in the country. I think with food we have 672 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 2: an addiction problem, myself included. We all are in some addicted. 673 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 2: Food has been weaponized. And if you start cutting sugar 674 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 2: out of your diet, which comes obviously comes in surprising places, 675 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: you're getting a long way there. Number two is seed oils. 676 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: Seed oils are the number one source of American calories 677 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: right now. If you look at anything, you'd be shocked, 678 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: right there will be numerous soybean oil, safflower oil, sunflower oil. 679 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: It is unbelievable how these ingredients sneak into any product 680 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: you buy, even if it's at whole foods, organic expensive, 681 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: you always have seed oils. These did not exist in 682 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: the American diet until one hundred years ago because they 683 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: were only created one hundred years ago as an industrial 684 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 2: byproduct by John Rockefeller, as a byproduct of oil production, 685 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: originally made to grease machinery. Literally, these these are cheap 686 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: oils that are now the staple and largest sources of 687 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: calorie in the American diet. And I think you are 688 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: seeing and going to see increasing research come out about 689 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 2: the scandal of seed oils. So you want to stick 690 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: to olive oil, You want to stick to butter, You 691 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: want to stick to healthy fats that aren't seed oils. 692 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 2: Number three is highly processed grains. So if you go 693 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 2: to a grocery store, gas station, if you pick up anything, 694 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: you'd be shocked, Right, it's some kind of enriched wheat, 695 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: probably some sugar, and then a couple of seed oils. 696 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 2: Like those three ingredients are the foundation of ulti processed food, 697 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: which is seventy percent of our diet now, and all 698 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: three of those ingredients didn't exist one hundred years ago. 699 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: You know, processed, you know, readily available sugar is a 700 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: wholly new invention, seed oils are new, and then the 701 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: processed s grain. The processing takes the fiber off of 702 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: the grain and creates into this frankin food that allows 703 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: products to stay on shelves for years. But the fiber 704 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: contains a lot of the nutrients and blunts the glucose impact. 705 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 2: So if you eliminate those three ingredients, you're basically forcing, 706 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: particularly with your kids, to a more whole foods diet. 707 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 2: Or if you're buying processed food, it's probably slightly better, 708 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: but that would be it, you know. And I think 709 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: something that's helped me is just seeing you know, I 710 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: don't really like to exercise, but my mental shift has 711 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 2: been exercise is just a tax that we have to 712 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: pay in modern society. You know, we used to walk 713 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 2: around a lot as humans. We used to be in 714 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: the stun more. You know, indoors is basically a new 715 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 2: concept biologically, but we have like we're being forced into 716 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 2: a sedentary life and getting movement and building that habit 717 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: isn't for anything other than the fact that if you 718 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: put any animal in an enclosed cage in New York 719 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: and an apartment in an office, they'll go. And I 720 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: think we really are going crazy by lack of movement. 721 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: That's at least we could go down the list, but 722 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: it's going through the basic metabolic habits. It's cut the 723 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: ultra processed food, move sleep. You know, read books by 724 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: Mark Hymen, by Rob Lostick, by a lot of warriors 725 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: in the space Frankly, listen to Joe Rogan and another 726 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: podcast you're talking about it, you know, and just go 727 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: on a path of curiosity believing that you can cure 728 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: and thrive things in your body instead of depending on 729 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: this medical system. And that's totally letting us down now. 730 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I have to work out. It's just a 731 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 1: you know, a mental health thing. It just clears my mind. 732 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: It's like I just I have to. I'd ask you 733 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: about alcohol, but I don't know if I'm ready for 734 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: that conversation before we go, and tell us a little 735 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: bit about true medicine. 736 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: So after my mom died, that was a big impact 737 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: on me. And then my sister, I mentioned briefly, after 738 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: thirteen years of training as a surgeon, left the field 739 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: abruptly quip because she realized that at Samframed School, she 740 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: didn't take one nutrition class, like ninety percent of doctors 741 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 2: that graduate and went on a journey on metabolic health 742 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,959 Speaker 2: and has been a a big advocate as well. Doctor 743 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 2: Casey means. So I started asking a couple of years ago, 744 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: how can I impact this issue which is really changing 745 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: the incentives to instead of healthcare dollars kicking and once 746 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: people get sick, to manage conditions, how do we keep 747 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: people healthy? So Trumed actually in a very seamless way 748 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: writes doctors notes for food or exercise which actually unlock 749 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 2: HSA FSA spending. So there's one hundred fifty billion dollars 750 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 2: in these accounts most people have. I never use these 751 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 2: accounts because they're seen as like, you know, tools to 752 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 2: use when you're sick for drugs, but almost every American 753 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 2: has these accounts. You can put ten thousand dollars tax 754 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: free money into these accounts, and with our notes that 755 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: we can provide, we write prevention and reversal plans for conditions, 756 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: tying food, exercise, supplements, cold plunges, sowd as, metabal key 757 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 2: healthy items. So we're enabling people to buy their exercise, 758 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: tax free healthy groceries, their supplements, and for average, that's 759 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: a thirty percent savings. We have a very seamless process, 760 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 2: so true mead dot com. We're partnering with a lot 761 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: of leading brands. You can see our Snipe and a 762 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: lot of brands you've probably heard of. And it's just 763 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: a simple, probably three minute process to get that doctor's 764 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: note and use medical dollars right, use like tax advantage 765 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: medical dollars, not waiting for when you get sick and 766 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: need a bunch of drugs, but actually you know to 767 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: be buying exercise of food for your family. So that's 768 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: our mission. And I'm also writing a book which is 769 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: coming out next year with my sister on this topic, 770 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:44,959 Speaker 2: which we're really excited about. 771 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'd love to have you both on when 772 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: the book comes out, and maybe we can talk about alcohol. 773 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, we might want to give that. 774 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, you got to have some fun, but you 775 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: just sugar or sometimes alcohol sometimes. But the analogous point 776 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: is like we're not putting alcohol or recommending alcohol or 777 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 2: kids and putting in all the like sugar just sneaks 778 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: in everywhere. I think that's the problem. We just we 779 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: need to think of more things like alcohol like not 780 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: necessarily a good thing, not a good thing, but you 781 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 2: know we should be allowed to have treats and fun, 782 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 2: but with food, it's just been normalized into everything we eat, 783 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: which I think is really the problem. 784 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: I laugh about the alcohol, but I've actually tried to 785 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: cut that down to to just like a couple of 786 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: glasses of wine, because I know that's you know, going 787 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: to kill me too. For everything's killing Kelly. This is 788 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: such an interesting conversation. We've learned so much from you, 789 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: so I really appreciate you taking the time for joining 790 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: us and enlightening us. So thank you so much. 791 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: Thank you, Lisa. 792 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: Those Calie Means, founder of True med. I mean, that 793 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: was a fascinating conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed it. 794 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about health recently, just trying 795 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: to be healthier to the best of my ability. I've 796 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: found him fascinating, so appreciate you guys listening to the 797 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: show every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout 798 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: the week. I want to thank John Cassio and my 799 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: producer for putting the show together. Please drop us a 800 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: review on Apple. We like to look at those. Whatever 801 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: you want. Until next time,