1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian. It was that kind of a week. 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of things upside down and backwards, 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: which I'm sure a lot of you can relate to, 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: because sometimes it seems that's how your week goes, right 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. Most mechanics tell me the O b 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: D one system work work looking well, it wasn't. It 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: wasn't as high tech as the O b D two. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: But you know what, I can't sit on my rear 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: end and say, well, it's not O b D two. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: I can't diagnose it. I'm a mechanic. That's what I'm 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: supposed to do. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where car 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage to 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: orders are open. But I am here to take your 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: call at eight five five six and now he running. Hey, 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: we've got another busy hour of Car Doctor and for 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: you today is we're gonna talk about a lot of 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: different things. We've got Harsh Gobin of launched launch Tech 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: USA dot Com coming in around the bottom of the 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: hour to talk about batteries and testing batteries and some 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: of the changes in that technology. We've got the phones, 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: rolled it up and backed up, and right now I 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: just want to say a couple of words about something 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: that happened in the shop this week. It was an 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 1: interesting commentary, and I just want to bring up one point. 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: So we looked at a car. We you know, the 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: car was way overdue for its oil change, and I'm 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: not sure why. I think, well, I know why the 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: husband's in trouble with the wife, because Maggie kept telling Paul, 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: bringing in, bringing and bring it in, and you know, 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: he didn't. And it finally came in about five and 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: a half, almost six months overdue. And I did the 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: oil change. I did this one myself, and when I 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: looked at it, I did my usual due diligence, walked 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: around and kicked the tires, put up in the air, 38 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: wiggled everything, and did my usual look at everything. And 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: I found three of the four bull joints up front 40 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: or bed. The two uppers the rubber boots are split, 41 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: and the one lower on the right side. You know, 42 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: when I wiggled the wheel, it's not supposed to go clunk, 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: and then it needs tires, right, it needs at least 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: two tires, and I probably recommend four plus an alignment, 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: because now the car is unsafe. The two tires are 46 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: worn down to the tread bars, and we're going into winter, 47 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and it's just not gonna be a great time to 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: be on the road with ball tires, right. It never is. 49 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: And when I explained all this to the customer, her 50 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: comment was, well, the car is gonna have to wait 51 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: till after I pay property taxes. And I understand that, 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: you know what, if you don't have it, you don't 53 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: have it. But by the same token, do you have it? 54 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: All right? It's it's not, you know. And the point 55 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is it's a safety thing, all right. 56 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: We all as human beings, we all have the ability 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: to find it somewhere. We We've got the ability to 58 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: dig money out of the couch cushions when we absolutely 59 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: have to bald tires and bad ball joints, When the 60 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: front suspension can fold under itself and the tires can 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: lose traction in the car have an accident, that's the 62 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: moment you go digging in the couch cushions. That's the 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: moment when you go out on the credit card for 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: more than thirty days if you have to, because you've 65 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: got to keep the car safe. I'm gonna close it here. 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Story is not that much longer than that, and to 67 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: talk any longer would be a rant, and I don't 68 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: need to. I'm gonna close it here and and remind 69 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: all of you and hopefully you're doing this as best 70 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: you can in these tough times, that you're saving some money, right, 71 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you're putting away a hundred a hundred and fifty two 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. Is maintenance? An emergency repair on 73 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: the car, you know, on the water heater, on whatever, 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: something breaks around the house. You've got to have an oh. Fund. 75 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: If you don't have an fund, oh, and uh, we'll 76 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: leave it there. So because safety knows no limit, there's 77 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: no time frame. Like the song says, rust never sleeps 78 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and things can always happen and go wrong. So and 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: enough said Mike and Delaware on nine Escape want to 80 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: talk about transmission maintenance. Mike, welcome, you're out with the 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, How can I help? How you doing? Run? 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: You have me a little concern about your daughter's transmission. 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: But I just well, when it is at two down 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: nine Ford Escape two point five, what type of train 85 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: does it have a transmission filter? And now i'm the 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: second number of Now, thank goodness for the first known 87 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: or he written down everything that he'd done to it 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: on the back of the owner's manual and he had 89 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: the fluid change and UM, I think it was um, 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: that should be that's likely an LV fluid vehicle. I'm 91 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: pretty sure that's an L. It's it's either an LV 92 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: or it's a it's a murk five. I'm trying to 93 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember which one the square bodies were. 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: But regardless, there's no filter that gets changed as part 95 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: of normal maintenance. Eighties a little too long, all right, 96 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: in my opinion, a lot of these fluids are fifty 97 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: to sixty thousand mile fluids at best. At least, you know, 98 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: it's sort of like and this is a this is 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: a dramatic presentation and I hate to say it like this, 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: but I have to because I think it kind of 101 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: shocks everybody. You know. It's like it's like you don't 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: want to wait until you have cancer to try and 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: straighten out your lifestyle. Okay, I'm gonna say I'm gonna 104 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: say it like that, all right. You know you want 105 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: to you know, you want to live a clean, healthy 106 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: life at best you can. Um, you know you want 107 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: to change the trans fluid. You wanted to do the 108 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: fluids on a regular basis. You don't want to wait 109 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: until you have the album. You know, when the trans 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: fluid is burnt, when the trans fluid you know, has 111 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: that has that smell to it and it's dark and 112 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: you change it, it's already too late, right, the damage, 113 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: the damage is done. And you know I told the 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: story in the previous hour Open today where I talked 115 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: about the Honda they came in from Long Island that 116 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: that had a chattering tor Converter reply at thirty five miles. 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: You know, I looked at the fluid. The fluid had 118 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: some stink to it, but it hadn't been overheated. It 119 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: was just it was just worn out. And trans fluid 120 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: can do that, it loses its additive package. Um. Did 121 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: did mom make chicken soup? Okay? Did you ever? Do 122 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: you ever notice moms chicken soup? If she made it 123 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: on Monday. By the time I got the Thursday, it 124 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: just quite didn't change the same. It didn't. It didn't. 125 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: It didn't taste the same, right, And then what she do? 126 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: She had it some more vegetables, she put some more 127 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: noodles in it, she put in some fresh chicken, and 128 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: you had chicken soup for another three days. God, I 129 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: hated chicken soup week. And you know, but it's the 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: same thing with trans fluid. It wears out. Now you 131 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: can't put there's no editors you can put in transfluency. 132 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: You change it, but in between the time you change 133 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: it and you know it starts to fail, you're now 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: causing damage somewhere else. So well, it's like, say it 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: runs fine and stuff. But you know, I thought, you know, 136 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: he changed it, and he's written down like eighty town. 137 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: I know you say sixty town. But should I go ahead? 138 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: And do you like the system where they flushed the transmission, 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: done that, loosen all the dirt, and then and they 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: put the new back in and it just recirculates back 141 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: into the transmission. Yeah, trans transmission flush to me signifies 142 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: or describes we're doing something under pressure. All right. I 143 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: like to use the word exchange exchange is softer, alright, 144 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: exchange exchange is kind of like a massage to your 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: back versus getting a karate chop to the neck for 146 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: an adjustment. All right, Uh, you know it's a little softer. 147 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: I like to let the fluid do the work. Listen. 148 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Automatic transmission fluid, by definition and by design, is generally 149 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: considered a high scrubbing, high detergent type of fluid. It 150 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: will scrub away at varnish, it will help keep passages 151 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: clean and so on. The danger that's why we say 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: the danger of you you change trans fluid that's never 153 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: been changed on an older unit, where the fluids very 154 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: beat up and the unit's heavily varnished. You're now going 155 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: to break all that particulate off inside the trans and 156 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: where's it gonna go. It's gonna start the clark orifice 157 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and ports, and it's gonna go all the places it 158 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't go. And that's why transmissions fail. You know, I 159 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: was telling the story to someone just within the last 160 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: two weeks, probably with all the transmission work we've seen lately, 161 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, I can count on one 162 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: hand the number of times I've actually had to trans 163 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: fail from fluid change. But it happens. Um, I still 164 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: think it's something worthwhile. I still think it's something you 165 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: want to do and put the odds in your favor. 166 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: But if I'm really dealing with a dirty fluid, dirty 167 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: problem like that, I'm going to do it gradually. I'm 168 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: gonna do, you know, if it's a if it's a 169 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: six court change and I get out is three, I'm 170 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna do three. Drive it for ten thousand miles or 171 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: maybe five thousand miles, bring it back to another change, 172 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: and let it gradually work its way through. It's I 173 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: can't give you. I can't give you a floor matter 174 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: or a profile of of how to do each one 175 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: mic because they're all they're all different. Um, you know, 176 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a gut call and just to hear how's 177 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: here's how we're gonna do it. I guess the best 178 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: advice I could give you is, if you have any doubt, 179 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: you know, go mild, mild as wild as we used 180 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: to say we're making hot rods. You know, um, run 181 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: what does that transmission to have a filter or doesn't 182 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: just basically run off and got the metal? I believe, 183 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I believe there's an internal screen, but it's not something 184 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna change on a on a service call. You're 185 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: only gonna change it if you pull the trans out 186 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: and split the case, all right, So it's not something 187 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: that normally gets changed. Uh. You know at the point 188 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: where you would pull the filter out, you're pulling the 189 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: trans out, so it kind of doesn't need it. No, 190 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,359 Speaker 1: I got another question. I'll let you go and appreciate 191 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: your help. Is um you know, if I've taken and 192 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: get get it changed again, what what do I ask 193 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: them to put forward transmission fluid back in it? Or 194 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: how would you say? You say, I'm your customers say run, 195 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I need transmission fluid. Hey, Mike, I need you. I 196 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: need you to change the trans fluid on my own 197 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: nine escape. Can you tell me? Can you tell me 198 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: what kind of fluid you're using? Because I want to 199 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: make sure. I want to make sure that we both understand. 200 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: I need fluid that meets the manufacturer specification, all right. 201 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: And the reason I say manufacturer only because every once 202 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: in a blue moon you'll get some weird car that's 203 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: it's brand X and it's got a brand Y trans 204 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: in it. Because that's just the deal they made in 205 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: the back room of the bar that night when they 206 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: said we'll sell you a half a million transmissions. Uh 207 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, but we we want something that means man 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: afacturer spec. All right, the next time you're in the 209 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: grocery aisle that has that has the motor oils and 210 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: the trans fluids in it, start to start start reading 211 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: the back of the trans fluid bottles. I've had you 212 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: guys reading the back of engine oil bottles for years. 213 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Not read the back of the transmission fluid bottles and 214 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: see what they say. This one's for this one's Chrysler, 215 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: this one's GM. You know, because they're all different. You 216 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: want something that meets the manufacturer spec bottom one. All right, sir, 217 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: all right, you'rey welcome, Mike, Oh Mike. One more, one 218 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: more thing, buddy. If you haven't, if you have any 219 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: doubt about what fluid that takes, go look at the 220 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: trans dipstick and oh nine, it should have a dipstick. Yeah, 221 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: it'll say it across the top of the dipstick or 222 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: somewhere on the on the metal portion of the dipstick. 223 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Usually they tell you this takes type LV or Type 224 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: five or or what have you. If you need a reference, 225 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: if not looking the owner's manual. So you know what 226 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: to look for when he starts to describe it to 227 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: you at the service counter. Okay, alright, Mike, you'd be 228 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: well be safe. You're very welcome, sir. I'm running any 229 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'm back right after this. Don't go 230 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: away when you get keep Ron's number hand eight five 231 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine zero zero for when you 232 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: really need advice on your car. Here's Rock. Hey, let's 233 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Frank and Illinois three G 234 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: M C. Frank, what's going on? Well, thanks for taking 235 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: my call. Ron. My purchases two thousand three has the 236 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: sixth Leader motor hundred forty two thousand, and I found 237 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: it's got two issues. When you and National started up 238 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: in the morning, immediately the bill goes off shows low 239 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: oil pressure. Go ahead and increase the RPMs to two thousand. 240 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: About four seconds in the oil pressure creeps up. The 241 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: alarms go off. If I take it and drive it 242 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: four miles to town, I have no more issues. The 243 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: engine's warm quarters in the oils warm. If I don't 244 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: and I just let it back down from the two thousand, 245 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: let us set there an idles just doing it again 246 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: so we know GM and our old about wisdom have 247 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: moved them oil pumps. And if I was going to 248 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: shoot in the dark with this problem, I would say, 249 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: maybe that oil pump has seals or old rings that 250 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: are cold and let the oil get by. But once 251 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: the oil that gets warm and the engine gets warm, 252 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's the sealing of that, but I'm not sure. Yeah, 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: it could be. Um, you know, I'd be curious if 254 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: you started a cold and then shut it off and 255 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: pulled the dip stick. I wonder if the oil that's 256 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: in the vehicle, if it's gonna show any signs of foaming, 257 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, aeration. I haven't tried that, but I will 258 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: do that, you know. And then obviously, and the simple 259 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: thing as we begin the conversation is obviously you've checked 260 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: oil level. But I never want to assume yes, you know, 261 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: but just you know, let's let's let's let's do the basics. Um. 262 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: My other question is how do we know the adapter? 263 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: How do we know the sending units? Any good? Do 264 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: we really have low oil pressure? Is there any engine noise? 265 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Do you hear valve clatter? Do you hear any any knock, 266 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: any sort of strange sounds from the engine? If you 267 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: let it idle back down and uh the alarm comes 268 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: back on the bill's ring and you wait seconds, you'll 269 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: start to hear them lifters talk to you. Okay, So 270 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: now the question is, yeah, what what sort of damage 271 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: have we done? Uh? You know, and and now we 272 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: know why somebody sold it. Uh you know they didn't 273 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: want to go through the pain. Um. I think the 274 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: first thing I would do, you know, if you're looking 275 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: for an answer, obviously it's check level. We did that. 276 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: I would take go through the pain of putting an 277 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: adapter on the oil filter housing and checking mechanical oil pressure, 278 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: all right, you know, if if the oil filter is 279 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: good at the at the filter, which I I don't 280 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: I suspect. I suspect what you're describing to me is real, 281 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: all right, that it's got a real starvation problem. But 282 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: I just want to know, you know, before I do 283 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: open heart surgery, I'm gonna do heart rate and blood pressure, 284 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: all right if it's if it's okay at the filter 285 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: and for some reason, but I still get valve clatter 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: and I start to hear a lifter noise, then I'm 287 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna think I've got a restriction or maybe I've got 288 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: a spun can bearing, something moved inside the motor, all right, 289 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: But if I've got low mechanical pressure and lift noise, 290 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: then yeah, the first place I'm gonna go is to 291 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: is to pull the pan and take a look at 292 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: the pump, and then while the pumps down, take a 293 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: look at the mains, just to see that they show 294 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: any kinds of wear. You know, a lot of a 295 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: lot of times. And I know this is a hard 296 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: concept for everybody when you start talking oil pressure. Um, 297 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, you can put a pump in all day 298 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: long if you've got worn bearings or clearances inside the 299 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: engine that have exceeded minimum. You know, they're just trying 300 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: to fill a hole. That just it's like it's like 301 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: you're constantly trying to fill a tire with air that's 302 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: got a giant hole in it. It It just doesn't work. 303 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,359 Speaker 1: And and yeah, so you know I would take that approach. Um, 304 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's easy enough if I'm not mistaken. I'm 305 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: trying to remember two wheel driver or four wheel drive vehicle. No, 306 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: it's two wheel drive. Yeah, I think that's a pretty 307 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: easy pan to come down. So, um, you know, but 308 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I would I would caution you to do those steps, 309 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: and then obviously before you take anything apart, see what 310 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: parts are available, because that's that's the next problem. Uh, 311 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, that's the next problem. You can't get anything. 312 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. It's it's so hard working in 313 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: the shop these days. You know, we order things a 314 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: week out, ten days out, just and then once in 315 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: a while we order things the same day and it 316 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: actually shows up. We're like amazed. Uh you know, we 317 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: think like God smiled on us that day, and uh, 318 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just getting harder. But those 319 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: are the steps I would take, you know. And you 320 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: you you've got a good head on your shoulders. I 321 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: can tell just just talking to your Frank, So you're 322 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: you're in the right direction right at any other quick issue, 323 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: I've noticed it has dual tanks, and the fuel gage 324 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: works good. I never filled the real tank for a 325 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: little while. You feel a problem shows half full. So 326 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: I was going to take a trip, So I filled 327 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: them both gauge went to full, went ahead and started 328 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: on a trip, and uh got into another state and 329 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: it all of a sudden it quit running, and so 330 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: I pulled it over and I tried the key, and 331 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: I said sounds like to me, it don't have fuel, 332 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: but I'm showing half a tank, so I called it, 333 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: had him bring me a little fuel and apparently the 334 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: fuel and the rear tank is not transferring to the 335 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: front tank. Okay, So now so basically the rear tank 336 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: never empties, right. Okay, So now you've got to get 337 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: into is the divert valve actually opening when you open it? 338 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: This is actually a bigger problem than the oil pressure problem. 339 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: All right, it's a little bit more to diagnose. Okay, Um, 340 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: you know this is this is can you you know, 341 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: does the divert valve actually open? Is it transferring fuel 342 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: from one to the other? You know, you've got to 343 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of go through that routine. And for that you're 344 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna need a good solid wiring diagram and some basic steps. Um, 345 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you send me the vin 346 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: the seventeen digit VIN, all right, which is he's on 347 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: the ridge or in the title, however it is. Um, 348 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: send me an email Ron at card Doctor show dot com. 349 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to look up. You know, we're powered 350 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: by Mitchell uh in the shop and I'll be glad 351 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: to take a look and see what kind of wiring 352 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: diagrams we've got if if I don't find it there, 353 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: we're also powered by all data in the shop and 354 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: I can take a look there and I can get 355 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: your wiring diagram and uh, you know, we'll get you 356 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: some information and see what that does for you. So um, 357 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: wiring wiring diagrams of the roadmap. So all right, kid, 358 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm up against the clock. But do that. 359 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: Frank Ron at Car Doctor Show dot com reach out. 360 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to help you any which way I can. Hey. 361 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: Coming up next, toresh Govin launched tech Launch Tech USA, 362 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: talking about batteries and testing, how things have changed and 363 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: what we can look forward to in the future. I'm 364 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: running any in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right 365 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. It's not a fency. She 366 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: was laying there. She woke up and took me by 367 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: the hand. She's gonna love me and my vy van 368 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: and that's all right with me. Hey, welcome back, listeners, 369 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Running any in the Car Doctor. You know, the battery 370 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: is such a vital component of your vehicle today, and 371 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: I thought would be a good time to chat and 372 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: talk about it with the folks over at launched launch 373 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: Tech USA dot com and our good friend Haresh Goban. 374 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: He's the product developed manager over there and they're developing 375 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: new products all the time, and batteries seemed to be 376 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: on their list. So let's stop buy and talk to 377 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Haresh today. Is what I said to do. Is that's 378 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: what we want going on? Harresh, welcome back to the show. 379 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: It's good to have you a ran, Thank you, thank you. 380 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: It's good to be back on your show. How are 381 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: you doing, buddy, I'm doing I'm good. I'm doing well 382 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: if I can get the words out. You know, sound 383 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: on radio is always so critical um so, but sometimes 384 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. So tell us, you know, 385 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: a good battery. Let's just start with some basics. How 386 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: important is a good battery to a modern vehicle? You know? 387 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: And think of that in terms of, you know, something 388 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: from today versus something thirty years old. How has battery 389 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: technology changed and how much more critical is it to 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: the car? Yeah, battery technology has advanced where it's the 391 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: nucleus of the car in this day and age. Thirty 392 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: years ago, you know, we didn't have much expectation of 393 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: a battery. Just crank and get it to start, you know, 394 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: and be on the road. Um, difficult start and beyond 395 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: the road. But today, the battery is at the center 396 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: of all the technology. So our cars are basically an 397 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: extension of our lives. If everything's wired up, everything's revolves 398 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: around technology, sensors, gadgets, and the battery is the one 399 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: element that keeps everything alive. It's sort of like the 400 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: center of the universe. Um, you know there's more modules. 401 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: Now there's there's keep alive power right. Um. Uh so 402 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: battery reserve power is critical. And then what about start 403 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: stop technology? How does that affect the car today? Um? 404 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: The start stops technology is very important because there's dozens 405 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: of starts per day and the average vehicle performed I 406 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: would say anywhere from him two to about ten. UM. 407 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: With the addition of the additional modules, there's more demand 408 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: for this type of battery technology. And that's like you 409 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: just mentioned to keep alive power right, and now electric 410 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: power steering. I mean, geez, everything everything is electric. So 411 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, when you start looking at the battery, technology 412 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: has changed and the demands on the battery has changed. 413 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: How do you test a battery today? Well, believe it 414 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: or not, Um, there are a couple of different ways 415 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: to test the battery. Um. Most shops do conduct into 416 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: testing and they have a conducting center. So that's basically 417 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: a device UM that's that's hooked up to the positive 418 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: and negative terminals of the batteries and you put in 419 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: some information such as a cranking amp and you have 420 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: a surface kind of service voltage gives you a kind 421 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: of reading of the health of that battery. And then 422 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: and then you know that's a that's the old school 423 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: carbon pile test method. Correct. Correct, And then there's that 424 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: then there's that real old school method which I kind 425 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: of like to about the voltmeter and you turn the 426 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: key to the run position and walk away and and 427 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: you you can watch where the voltage is after after 428 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: five or ten minutes, right, yeah, And actually that is 429 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: a very accurate um um methodology to test the battery. UM. 430 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: The you're basically simulating the conditions of driving and running 431 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: and putting a load on the battery. So gives you 432 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: a real world scenario. So you know, we had carbon pile, 433 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: We've got the idea of voltmeter and loading it and 434 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: then watching voltage and then I don't know, it seems 435 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago or so the industry just kind 436 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: of got away from the carbon pile load idea. We 437 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: just went to other methods mechanical or mathematical algorithms and 438 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: and so forth. How come the carbon pilot tester was 439 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: not too dependable, used to break down a lot and 440 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: shops used to invest a lot of money into carbon 441 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: and piload tester um unit, so it was very expensive 442 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: to repair and and also didn't have that the major 443 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: crucial element of a print out that you basically deliver, 444 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: deliver that results to the customers, you know, to give 445 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: them an idea of their battery. So that was one 446 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: of the reasons. And I feel the shift has gone 447 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: towards the conducting testing and the different devices of different 448 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: portable devices due to convenience, UM, portability and expandability. You know, 449 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned portability and expandability. Talk about the bs T 450 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: three sixty, the new tool from launch. You know why 451 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, why did you create the 452 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: clamp that clamp method, because that's what it is. It's 453 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: it's really kind of amazing. We use it in the 454 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: shop and it's just it's it's two battery clamps with 455 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: a cable and it works. Um, I think it's magic. 456 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: So talk about that for a second, because that's a 457 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: completely new idea for battery testing that's working absolutely, and 458 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: it's an evolution of the conducting testers that have been 459 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: around the last decade. So basically what we did there 460 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: is that we decided to just magnify the clamps and 461 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: just have positive and a negative clamp um. The reason 462 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: is everything sinks up. Back to the technology, everything sinks 463 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: up for the average consumer today with an application. Everyone 464 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: has a phone, most technicians have scan tool. So we 465 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: decided to to get away from the conductions test testing 466 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: device with the screen and the sprinter and everything, and 467 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: we just think it up with the technology apps such 468 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: as the Launch Exported scan tool or iPhone or androids 469 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: app application and then they're just using their Windows computer 470 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: whatever they're using as a printer or display screen and 471 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: it yet it's it's because it works really well and 472 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: the print out is nice. You know, the report so 473 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: much information. You know, you can you can choose Battery 474 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Council Institute and a bunch of other standards on how 475 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: you want to rate the battery uh to see you know, 476 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: if it doesn't have good you know, is it a 477 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: good battery you're not UM, But then some of the 478 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: other information that it's providing down in there, and then 479 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: it gets into did I see And I haven't done 480 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: it yet because the tool is new to us, but 481 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: did I see that it does start testing too? Is 482 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: that on there as well? Yes? Correct? One step further 483 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: after the initial battery test UM with the crank of 484 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle, you can get a starter and UM charging 485 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: system tests, alternator tests and then did use the health 486 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: all status of those other two components in the vehicle, 487 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: the starter and the alternator right right, and it does 488 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: an alternator test as well. And then I was you know, 489 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: I was impressed. I mean, we used it on our 490 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: our launch scan tool, but you know, then I was 491 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: impressed because then there's an app that it goes right 492 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: on my droid phone, So you know, I don't need 493 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't need a scantel necessarily to use it, absolutely, 494 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: and that opens up the whole demographic. This tool is 495 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: not only for professional technician. UM. While it suffices for 496 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: professional technician in the shop setting, it's also easy. It's 497 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: easy to use for the average consumer, the average car owner. 498 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: They could have it in the club box right right. 499 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Battery charting system tests anytime they want, and it's relatively inexpensive, 500 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: I believe. Correct. We're running about dollars retail really through 501 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: one of our various distributors. You know, I look at 502 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: the technology that's there, and I would have bet dollars 503 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: to donuts it was a three tool. Um. Well, you know, yeah, 504 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: it really that really does because it's it's really amazing 505 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: what that tool does for a hundred bucks. Um. I 506 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, as a shop owner, the nicest part, 507 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: there's a lot of nice things about it, but one 508 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: of the nicest parts is the fact that the print 509 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: out and you get to hand the customer, you know, 510 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: that piece of paper and go, hey, your battery was bad, 511 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, and here's the reason why, and the print 512 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: out shows you that. So well, you know, listen, we're 513 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: in that age, right, We're in that age where everybody wants, uh, 514 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: they want information. We're in the information age obviously, and 515 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: testing the battery is now gotten uh into this century. 516 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: So that's one thing, um that I think distinguishes us 517 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: here at Launch to launch um product development and product 518 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: teams is we're also always looking to add value for 519 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: for the d I Y segment. And the average consumer. 520 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: You know product yeah, as you just mentioned, is the 521 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: free information age, and you know we need it and 522 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: we needed to tip of our hands right exactly. So well, 523 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: I think everybody, I think everybody can understand that, and uh, 524 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's everybody. Everybody will get a 525 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: battery tester, harrass work and the listeners find more information. 526 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: The clock is gonna grab us real quick. You can 527 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: find more information at www dot launch tech USA dot com. 528 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: Cool beans, horresh, we'll talk again, babe. Thanks, thanks for 529 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: coming on the show today. You're very welcome to You're 530 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: welcome rondating the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 531 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Welcome back the Car Doctor here at 532 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: eight by five five zero zero. Keep in mind that 533 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: phone number eight five five zero zero. We're not on 534 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: the air. We're live on the network Saturdays to the 535 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: four pm East Coast time. Leave a message and Tom Rae, 536 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: executive producer, chief cook and bottle washer. We'll get you 537 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: back and get you in queue for the next live broadcast. 538 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Illinois up next four teen camera in a soft 539 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: break pedal, Patrick, what's going on here? Describe it? Um 540 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: So when I pushed on my brakes. Uh, the pedal 541 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: doesn't go all the way to the floor, but it 542 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: does a good distance. And when I drive my wife's accord, man, 543 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: you barely touched that brake pedal and you can tell 544 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: the brakes are hitting. Um. I had my brakes done 545 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: by a mechanic about a year ago, and I really didn't, 546 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, think anything of it. To me, It's just normal. Um. 547 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: But when my wife drives that, she's like, I'm scared 548 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: to drive your car because I feel like I can 549 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: we hit something. And I didn't know. You know, do 550 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: they the brakes need to be bled maybe they didn't 551 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: bleed them, or um, the fluid is at the max level. Um, 552 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to check on. All right, 553 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: so let's let's talk about this. Are you the original 554 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: owner on the car? Yes, I am, okay, So when 555 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: you first got the car, where the brake satisfactory? They 556 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: worked okay? Yeah? Different, different, different than they do now, yes, 557 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: I would say different. And then what did this mechanic 558 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: do a year ago? Pads and rotors, pads, rotors, calibers, calibers, 559 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: calipers also okay, and since and since then, it just 560 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. Um, yeah, it's a little soft. Yeah, definitely. Okay. 561 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: And have you taken it back to him? Um? I 562 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: have not. I didn't think anything of it until you know, 563 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: my wife said something about it last week. Um, you know, 564 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: and so I probably need to take it back and 565 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: talk to him. But I didn't really. I drive a 566 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: lot of highway miles, so I don't notice. I didn't notice. Hey, listen, 567 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: don't don't feel bad for not noticing. All right, you noticed, now, okay, 568 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: don't don't beat yourself up. Never apologize, right, Um, you know, 569 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: as as Gibbs says, right, it's a sign of weakness. 570 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that, but I 571 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: get it. I don't I understand what he's saying. Uh, 572 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, listen, take it back. It could be it 573 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: could be a defective new caliper. It could be the 574 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: systems not bled properly. All right, now, now some of 575 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,719 Speaker 1: this could be. And here's here's like my biggest nightmare 576 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: when I do breaks is I get the car that 577 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: had a seized rear brake caliper, all right, and it 578 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: was seized in such a way that it just allowed 579 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: it to apply the break, but it didn't really retract 580 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: like it should. And you know it's funny as a 581 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: caliper starts to bind and see sometimes it tends to 582 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: give the car a better brake pedal than it normally 583 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: has because it drags the break a little bit and 584 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: it's it's like right there on the rotor. And then 585 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: you give them four new calipers or two new calipers 586 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: and pads and you bleed everything and the pedals just 587 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: a little softer because now it's got a little bit 588 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: of gift to it. You know, it's it's the real number. 589 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: Is is it like it was when it was new? 590 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: Or is it worse? And that's really what we're shooting 591 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: for here. So UM, I replaced the pads and rotors myself, 592 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: um a couple of times before I had them do it. 593 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: And the reason I took it in to have someone 594 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: do it is, uh, they were the rotors were warping, 595 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: um and I'd get a heavy vibration and I decide, 596 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna have a professional look at 597 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: it because what I'm doing is not working. Yeah. Well 598 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: and it could have it could have all It could 599 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: have also been the brand of rotor you're putting on there. 600 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: How many miles are on this kar Patrick, real quick. 601 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: You know the other thing, the other issue we could 602 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: have here is because the clock is gonna grab me. 603 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: Let me just say this. Let go through bleed the system. 604 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: Look at the calipers, everything dry, everything as it appears. 605 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Is there anywhere is there anywhere in the pivot linkage 606 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: of the brake pedal assembly itself? Is there something wrong 607 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: with the linkage going into the booster such that there's slop, 608 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's playing the linkage and as you step 609 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: on the pedal, it takes that extra you know, eighth 610 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: of an inch for it to make contact with the 611 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: back of the booster and apply the brakes. Listen, let's 612 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: start with the basics. Let him go back over what 613 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: he did and his shop worths assault is obligated to 614 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: do that, and he should. If you have any questions, 615 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: If you still don't have it solved the way you want, 616 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: call me back next week. I'm here for you, all right, 617 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: But get him looked at. Yeah, stay on, stay on 618 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: the phone. Let me pull over and take this pause. 619 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: We'll finish it up when we come back. I'm running 620 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: any of the car. Doctor will return right after this. 621 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back, running in the car. Doctor here bringing it home. 622 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Patrick and Illinois. Patrick, you had 623 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: a question real quick bib Yes, uh, when I pulled 624 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: into a parking lot or hit a bump, a good 625 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: size bump. It's very charring. I didn't know how long 626 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: struts laughted If I should look at replacing my struts? Miles? Yes, simple, well, well, 627 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: simple test. Let's give it the knee test still works, 628 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, go out, go out, take your knee bounce 629 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: the front of the car bounced, the back of the car. 630 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: Does the car bounce you know, wildly? Does it? You 631 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: know it'll go up and down once twice, you know? 632 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: Or is it just does just sit there and keep 633 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: on rocking? You know if it keeps on rockingly, well 634 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: then it's not struts, you know, it's it's you know, 635 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: I would look at them. Are they leaking? Do they 636 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: look damaged? Or the springs? Okay? You know the other 637 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: thing it could be you could have an issue if 638 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: you've got is it nois or is it a sensation? Sensation? 639 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: You could have a bad lower control arm. Alright. The 640 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: lower control arms are notorious on those, especially the rear 641 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: bushing fail and they'll cause all sorts of you know, 642 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: it's it's like you'll hit the bump and the steering 643 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: wheel feels like it's gonna rip out of your hand. 644 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Uh you know if it's yeah, it's it could be 645 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: oh boy, um, you know, and it's it's a it's 646 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: a bad Yeah, I know, it's it's funny how I 647 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: do that right? Um, you know, it's just it's bad. 648 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Lower control arms usually. Just take a look at it now, 649 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: don't don't be be ready for the price, because if 650 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: it's the one I'm thinking of, the motor mounts have 651 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: to get pulled out in order to do the control 652 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: arm bolts, and um, it's every bit. It's yeah, it's 653 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: a little bit of work and a little bit of 654 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: finagling in order to get him out. We just did 655 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: a sit yesterday on an older camera that took every 656 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: bit a half a day between two guys, and one 657 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: day it took a couple of four or five hours. 658 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: So um, you know, once one side, now obviously that 659 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: was an older car. Two of the bolts were seized 660 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: and um, you know it took getting out the Gigantic 661 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: whereas we say, the gigundes snap on breaker bar and uh, 662 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: as two guys pulled on it, I never saw a 663 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: breaker bar actually moved twenty five degrees before it finally 664 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: broke the bolt loose. But now I know why I 665 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: have paid the price for snap On, because their hand 666 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: tools sure do take a beat. And so good luck yit. Patrick. 667 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: Let me know if you need more. Until the next time. 668 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: I want to remind each and every one of you 669 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: that I appreciate you being here. I'm running any in 670 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: the car, doctor, thanks for stopping by until that next time. 671 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you