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Speaker 1: Yo, yo, Welcome to What's Up their podcast. I am

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Speaker 1: your active and attractive hosts for another episode of the

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Speaker 1: fastest growing podcast on the market right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: the vibration is how on this side, I talked to

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Speaker 1: everybody in the culture that has a voice. I'm instrumental

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Speaker 1: in understanding the ingredients. Right So what I'm doing right

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Speaker 1: now today is I pulled up on somebody that has

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Speaker 1: built theirselves a whale to old machine. Adam twenty two.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? My brother? Hey living my guy chilling man,

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Speaker 1: just chilling brother. I appreciate you having me in the compound.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful spot. Yeah, I appreciate it. We've only

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Speaker 1: been in here and maybe like two three months. At

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Speaker 1: this point, we were in like a much much smaller

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Speaker 1: space and just kind of had to make the decision

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Speaker 1: to go all in and buy this ship. So that

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Speaker 1: was probably the biggest purchase I ever made in my life,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like it's paying off. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: like a lot more productive in here, a lot more

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Speaker 1: room for all the employees to able work, be able

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Speaker 1: to record, you know, three or four pieces of content

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Speaker 1: at the same time. So it's definitely helping us get

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Speaker 1: going to the next level. Right, Um, how small it

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Speaker 1: was the spot before here? In comparison spot before it

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Speaker 1: was probably about like this wall to that wall. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe a little bigger, but it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: it was much small as like two small astrooms. But

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Speaker 1: we've had five spots over the years, starting the back

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Speaker 1: of a bike shop, then we moved to the back

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Speaker 1: of a slightly bigger bike shop. Then we got a

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Speaker 1: separate splay a space on Santa Monico Boulevard, and then

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Speaker 1: we got like another spot in the valley, and then

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Speaker 1: this is our new one that we realistically probably would

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Speaker 1: be at for like at least you know, four or

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Speaker 1: five years or something like that, right, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a large investment. Is it hard running this around here? Uh? Hard?

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Speaker 1: I mean kind of. I have a lot of people

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Speaker 1: on the team at this point, you know, which I

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Speaker 1: really think is like pretty much the most important thing

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Speaker 1: if you're going to try to build something that's bigger

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Speaker 1: than just a that's bigger than just you making content,

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Speaker 1: is that you got to start building your team. Like

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Speaker 1: literally the first thousand dollars you start making a month

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Speaker 1: from your content, you should be thinking, how can I

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Speaker 1: spend hire. How can I spend that thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: make my job easier and make my time better spent? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Right, because time is so important,

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Speaker 1: especially dealing with this. You need time to research, you

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Speaker 1: need time to develop skill and style, right, because interviewing

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Speaker 1: just saying and that's one thing about you, right, Um?

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Speaker 1: And of course I know the coaches here, they said,

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Speaker 1: loom I want you to talk to him about a

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Speaker 1: number of things that we're gonna talk about all of

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Speaker 1: those things. But you're a guy who when I see

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Speaker 1: you interview, I can appreciate the style. Right. It's not

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Speaker 1: some people don't understand it. Right. We'll get to the

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Speaker 1: drill shit later. But I'm saying, just far as pure

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Speaker 1: d interview style, I say, this dude knows what he's doing. Right,

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Speaker 1: you polose you? You just your style? How did you?

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Speaker 1: How did you develop that? Um? I honestly think that

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Speaker 1: it's just from experience of watching shitloads of other podcasts

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Speaker 1: and also just being like a really relentless critic in

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Speaker 1: the sense that you know, that's pretty much how I've

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Speaker 1: been my whole life. I'll be listening to a rapper

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Speaker 1: the time, and I'll still be thinking this song sucks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't like how they said this bar

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Speaker 1: introte I hate the fact that this album's too long,

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Speaker 1: you know. Like I've always been that person where I

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Speaker 1: just like have always just been like a relentless critic

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Speaker 1: of myself and others. And still to this day, I'll

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Speaker 1: be listening to a Joe Rogan podcast and I'll find

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Speaker 1: myself thinking this sucks, you know, like like a random

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Speaker 1: part of it, and I might think the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is dope, but I'll be like this ten fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: right here, I don't like this. He should have done this,

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Speaker 1: he should have done that. Now do I have any

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Speaker 1: business telling one of the most successful podcasts of all

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Speaker 1: time how to do their job? No? Not really, But

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Speaker 1: I do that same shit to myself, where before I

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Speaker 1: sit down with somebody, the question is not like, what

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Speaker 1: can we talk about? Because realistically, me and you could

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Speaker 1: have a good conversation Patty about all our favorite fast foods,

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Speaker 1: Bucks exactly, But who the fuck are we specialized in

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Speaker 1: talking about? That? No, we're not. It's just like it

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Speaker 1: would be okay, but and some of who's a diehard

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Speaker 1: with it. But realistically, it's like the most I try

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Speaker 1: kind of a big deal about an artist. But it's like, bro,

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Speaker 1: if I don't think it's interesting, or if I think

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Speaker 1: that the video that Vlad already did talking about it

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Speaker 1: is already like I'm not going to do a better

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Speaker 1: job talking about it or whatever, you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: to me, it's like, let's keep it interesting. And that's

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Speaker 1: like that OJ one. At State Farm, we're committed to

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Speaker 1: more Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there, and

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about reduced Man, It's like I

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Speaker 1: felt like, I really I've seen him do a bunch

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Speaker 1: that really kind of gave that interview like a different feel.

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Speaker 1: And I see it in the comments, and I see

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Speaker 1: the comments being like, oh, man, like I ain't watched

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Speaker 1: a good No Jumper interview in a month, two months,

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Speaker 1: but this is the one. This is one of the best,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like, I'm so addicted to that feeling of

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Speaker 1: just wanting people to have a great experience watching my

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Speaker 1: that's why I can't help but read the comments and

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Speaker 1: read the chat and just take it in. Me too, man,

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Speaker 1: And I think he's so important. You know, we may

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Speaker 1: be unique in that, you know, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: shy away from the comments, shy away from the critique.

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Speaker 1: For me, I understand that that's the only way we

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Speaker 1: get to the next level, especially for me on myself. Right,

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Speaker 1: and with that old Ja juice Man interview was interesting

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Speaker 1: because what I also think lends itself to great content

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Speaker 1: was clear that he had a certain level of respect

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Speaker 1: for what it is that you've done, and so that

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Speaker 1: always shines bright in the interview as well. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because like I felt like, the best interviews are the

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Speaker 1: ones where you really love the person, where you're such

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Speaker 1: because they just it becomes hard to give a bad

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Speaker 1: I just started out, I was like, listen, here's a

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Speaker 1: when I saw you perform at the very beginning of

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Speaker 1: your career. Let me tell you about this random video

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Speaker 1: I remember from back in the day. YadA YadA. Just

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Speaker 1: keep hitting him over the head with you shipping the

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Speaker 1: shows that I have an actual respect, because it's easy

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Speaker 1: But respect will get you so far, because I've seen

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Speaker 1: I've seen Snoop Dogg or actually this is just an

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Speaker 1: King's like ancient fucking CNN interview or just for anybody

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Speaker 1: shit that I can never say. He'll say, what's it?

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Speaker 1: What's it like being a crip? Just straight out. I

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Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg has a lot of respect for Larry King,

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Speaker 1: He'll sit there and he'll get entertained. He'll give you

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Speaker 1: you may be disconnected from that. But if you ask it,

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan said, so, it's the East

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Speaker 1: Coast West Coast beef still a thing. Yeah, it's flat

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Speaker 1: out one line. I was laughing because, like, to me,

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Speaker 1: murders that happened like literally like almost thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying, and that shines bright and

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Speaker 1: I have that in the culture right that everybody's reaching

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Speaker 1: out to me. I've not. I've not reached out to nobody,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's been like people are saying, man,

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Speaker 1: the way you talk, what you talk about, we fuck

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Speaker 1: with that. And I think when you have that culture

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Speaker 1: equity that puts you in a very unique place. You've

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Speaker 1: been able to get that culture equity, but you've been

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Speaker 1: faced with criticism as well. People tend to call you

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Speaker 1: a clouch chase. What's your definition of a cloud chase? Ah, well,

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Speaker 1: we're all cloud chasers. Spoiler alert for everybody out there

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Speaker 1: but are they cloud chasing when they have Kanye on

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Speaker 1: don't got. We're trying to get to the honey media

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Speaker 1: five honey mellian. On the other side, that's what's dangerous

429
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: to me, right, that's dangerous unlocking that wealth on the

430
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 1: other side of the content, when we deal with the mess,

431
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 1: that's dangerous to who to people that don't got to

432
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 1: deal with it? Because whatever happened after that, Adam go home.

433
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: If a nigga say he said on the interview, I'm

434
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: pressing the button, Adam go do three more interviews? The

435
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: mare So again, when you don't got to eat the cooking,

436
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: when you don't got to eat the food that's being cooked.

437
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: It's important to understand that, you see what I'm saying,

438
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 1: so you know when we deal with it. I'm just

439
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: wondering why it's Angels that instead of Vlad with his

440
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: big platform, you with your huge, amazing platform, coming together

441
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: figuring out how to do something get a honey medium

442
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: from Spotify or why is it that dangerous? Why is

443
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 1: it that we don't want money from Spotify? We got

444
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: our own businesses, right, And I'm not saying I'm not

445
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: saying in that way, right, I'm just saying that that's

446
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: that's interesting too. Don't say but don't discreate, hold on,

447
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: don't discredit what my point con pin me to the

448
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: Spotify thing. These are examples of me having access or

449
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 1: trying to get information from the people who have the

450
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: biggest market ship right now. But that's all I'm saying.

451
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,719
Speaker 1: My thing is that I think as a media person,

452
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: as a journalist, etc. That yes, you do need to

453
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: be kind of you got to be kind of tactical

454
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: about how you approach conversation. And from my perspective, from

455
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: Lad's perspective, I mean, we are extremely tactical about how

456
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: we approach that kind of things. I do interviews all

457
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: the time where there's some viral thing that I could

458
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: easily ask somebody, and I just don't do it because

459
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: I think it would be in bad taste. For instance,

460
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: like I brought this up to somebody the other day,

461
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: but like the other day, I was interviewing Bosstop. Bosstop

462
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: was King Vaughan's right hand man. A week before that,

463
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: Kwando Rondo's homie had gotten killed in West Hollywood, and

464
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: everybody who knows anything about oh blog versus four K Trey,

465
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Kwando Rondo's boy getting killed right in

466
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: front of him in Hollywood is like, if you're Kwando

467
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: Rondo's sworn enemy, then you're looking at that and you're

468
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: probably what feeling right whatever you're gonna feel about it

469
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: right now. I didn't bring that up to him because

470
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: I felt like that was kind of crossing the line,

471
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: because that question would have been straight up inviting him

472
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: to ship on a dead man, and that felt weird. Now,

473
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: if he when that guy had died, if he had

474
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: hopped on his Instagram story and said, hey, fuck buddy,

475
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,959
Speaker 1: YadA YadA YadA, I don't fuck with him, he had

476
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: it coming right around then I feel like that's appropriate

477
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: for me to ask him that question, because you already

478
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: put that sentiment out there into the world. But for

479
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: me to do an interview and just put the pieces

480
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: together and say, hey, here's this, here's this open invitation

481
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: to ship on this dude who I don't know, who

482
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: just got killed whatever, then that that felt like it

483
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: was crossing the line. Now I'll give you another example,

484
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: as I've had conversations with Lad, where he's called the

485
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Speaker 1: local police department beforehand to make sure that the case

486
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: was closed before he did an interview with a rapper,

487
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: specifically the baby. Because this is before the baby had

488
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: done any interviews. Vlad called the police department to just

489
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: make sure that this whole murder thing that happened in

490
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: the walmart, this is a closed case, right, this is

491
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: not something that's open active. That was very impressive to

492
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: me because that's not something I would have thought to do.

493
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: I would have thought to myself, well, the babies are

494
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: grown out as man, so he if it's a closed

495
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: case or it's not, he knows and he can make

496
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: the decision, right. But I thought it was impressive that

497
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Vlad went the extra mile to make one hundred percent

498
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: sure that he wasn't getting somebody to confess to something

499
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: on camera that could then be used against him. I

500
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: think I agreed that that is a monumental move, right,

501
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: and I also think that it's warranted from Blad. The

502
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: reason I say that is because he's been the whole

503
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: bunch of scrutiny. He's been viewed and mentioned to be

504
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: responsible for certain things, right, and so um, I think

505
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: that he wears that even if he tries to ignore

506
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: it an act like it don't mean nothing. I think

507
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: he understands that people try to paint him a certain way,

508
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: whether or not that's the case of it. See, this

509
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: is the thing, and like, I don't know how long

510
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: you've been doing media, would you say, like interviews and

511
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: just maybe two years? Right to me? The deeper that

512
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: I get into this, and like the longer I spend

513
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: watching the hip hop information online realm develop, the more

514
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, Damn, Glad knew what the fuck was gonna

515
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: happen in like two ten, two thousand and eleven whatever,

516
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: because he got so much shit for what like titling

517
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: clips about exactly what it was for dropping shit as

518
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: clips instead of just dropping the whole interview. Like people

519
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: forget that back in like twenty fifteen, the breakfast club

520
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: will get a jay Z interview and title it jay

521
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: z Interview, right and then and now if they get

522
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: a jay zv interview it lad is lads added to

523
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: this Tea's algorithm. He saw what was happening, and he

524
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: had like many many observations about how the ship was

525
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: going to play out, and he actually had the balls

526
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: to fucking do it even though he was getting so

527
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: much hate for it, and all those things that he

528
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: did that he got so much shit for are all

529
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: normal now, and all these people who are like, you know,

530
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: somebody like Nori who's like a super respected hip hop participant.

531
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: He's like a legendary guy. I mean he does all

532
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: the same things where there's clips on his channel that

533
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: have titles that are exactly like Vie clips. So it's like,

534
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's just a real first

535
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: for information from the fans out there. And that's why

536
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: we were saying earlier that you could sit into an

537
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: interview with me where you were talking to me about

538
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: how I made millions of dollars and how I got

539
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: this build in a YadA YadA, And it's like, I

540
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: just imagine that interview and I imagine what the title

541
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: would be, and I feel like that's just not going

542
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: to be as interesting to people because I've kind of

543
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: already talked about a lot of that stuff, and my

544
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: story is that different from like five billion other fucking

545
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: people who disagree with that. But but okay, But then

546
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: on the other hand, when people like Vlad just did

547
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: an interview with me and he asked me about Aaron

548
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: Carter just died three days after you did an interview,

549
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm let's talk about he talked to me about the

550
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: Joe Budden shit. He talks like he's talking to me

551
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: about a lot of MIXI ass shit, but it's shit

552
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: that's like recent, it's current. That really shows that he's

553
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: tuned into what people are gonna want to hear me

554
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: talk about, whereas I have done a lot of interviews

555
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: where I talk about business and everything and people like

556
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: that shit. But also that's kind of like its own thing,

557
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: Like your come up story is its own thing, versus like, right, yeah, yeah,

558
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: you know all the messages another but you dealing with

559
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: a scientist. I'm a scientist, so I do this. I

560
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: going in out these pockets. That's why I got so many.

561
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: It's so much going on around me, you know, so

562
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: me when I said my people already know Adam must

563
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: don't know no, right, because my ability to do this

564
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: is not the same as and I get it, I understand, right.

565
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: A lot of the information shit is whack for lack

566
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: of a better term, right, And a lot of the

567
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: content pieces where we get into the Aaron card or

568
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: deaf and you being the last person to sit in

569
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: front of them and things like that are much more interesting.

570
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: But there's a balance, and I respect the balance. And

571
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: that's one thing I don't think I get credit for it,

572
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: is that, like you watch that Just Man interview. Yes,

573
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: there are a couple of moments in there where I'm

574
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: asking them about some viral shit whatever. But for the

575
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: most part, I think, I honestly feel that I do

576
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: the most in depth like spiritual ass and I'm not

577
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: a spiritual person, but type interviews like I talk to

578
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: people who are from all different walks of life and

579
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: hip hop and allow them to vibe the fuck out

580
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: and talk about whatever. And I feel like my interviews

581
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways feel like the least cloud

582
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: thirsty interviews that I fucking see just because I interview

583
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: people all the time and feel like I get a

584
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 1: completely different version of them than the way that they

585
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: act on other platforms. I saw that with oj I

586
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: think about somebody like Kamaya. I watched a couple of

587
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Kamaya interviews before I interviewed her. She came in and

588
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: she was just fucking with me, just like talking about whatever,

589
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: just being so cool. Like I was blown away by it,

590
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: And that is really what I'm after. Like the clickbas

591
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: shit is cool because I want to do stuff that

592
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: people want to hear about. But then at the same time,

593
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: like for me to sit in front of somebody and

594
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: have a really great conversation for a couple of hours

595
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: is really what I'm after. And something like I don't

596
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: necessarily get the credit for the fact that I just

597
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: gave you your credit and let me let me get

598
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: you to understand this my place in the coach bro.

599
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna expect me to be extremely rough with you,

600
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: but they don't understand if they don't know me, that

601
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: it's information base. We come here to give some information

602
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: to each other, right and shot some game. Whatever's happening

603
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: in the world. Just speak on our perspectives. That's what

604
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: we come to do. Now, what I grabbed from what

605
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: you're saying again in interests of finding the truth and

606
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: understanding that. I respect your interview style. I just spoke

607
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: to how understand, bro, you can do this without debt.

608
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: I just said it, and you just said it. So

609
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: what I grabbed from these times when you sit in

610
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: front the guy who we as free as with King Vaughan,

611
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: and you don't go into that room, what I get

612
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: from that is he can do that and still be effective.

613
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: So I don't understand why you don't pull from that

614
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: that Yo, I don't have to live in that pocket

615
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: to even have that tag on my shirt. I do

616
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: it all. But also I want to say this is

617
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: that to me, I try. I'm like everything about what

618
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm building on, what I'm trying to do. I'm trying

619
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: to stay normal. I'm trying to stay a regular ass person.

620
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: This is insanely important to me because I see so

621
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: many people get successful and turn into weirdos, and that

622
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: is like, if anything, I'm trying to do everything I

623
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: can keep keep driving a normal car, dressed, normal act,

624
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera. Like I want to be a

625
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: regular guy, and from what regular is, But when you're

626
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: a regular guy and you go to get your hair cut,

627
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? You're talking about who got shot,

628
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: who got ran off the block, who got beat up?

629
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: From my perspective is that when we say down, when

630
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm in the group chat with the homies, what are

631
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: we talking about? We're talking about who got beat up?

632
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: Who got like, who who's going to Tracy break up? There?

633
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: Girl was talking shit about them on a story, et cetera.

634
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: So to me, that is kind of like human nature

635
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: is to definitely at least get clarity. And that's my

636
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: only thing is that we're gonna do a two hour interview.

637
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: We could talk for an hour about what it is

638
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: to live a good life, how great it is to

639
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: raise your kids, how great it is to have a business,

640
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: to not you know, all this good, healthy, hearty shit

641
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: that people love. People do love to hear that. But

642
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: then also it's like, hey, your girlfriend said that you

643
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: beat her up on her Instagram story, homie, Like we

644
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: gotta talk about this, you know, But also it's like

645
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: we don't have to. I ask people sometimes or they'll

646
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: tell me, like, hey, I don't want to talk about

647
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: this thing I look at. I get this entire game, bro,

648
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: and when I study roguing, they don't this this, bro.

649
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: It's conversations. Like for me, it's just conversations. It ain't

650
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: even all of that. It ain't even niggas don't have

651
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: to do what It's just conversations. Son. Listen, I come from, well,

652
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: see in your bobershop. That's what they running in my bobershop.

653
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: When I come in my bob shop, go to talking

654
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: about money. We tell my listen, I put it. Anybody

655
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: watching this, can't nobody dispute me. There ain't no ten

656
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: on me nowhere in the world, you understand. I put

657
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: this on everything I love. When I come around, they

658
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: talk about information. Little dude wants some more money. It's

659
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: clear everywhere I go. So when I come in the barbershop,

660
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: is man, what have you found out about what they

661
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: did with black effect over there? What Nora re making?

662
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: What is re up gonna be? Like? Have you paid

663
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: a tention to add him? He then drop six interviews.

664
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: They all got five hundred thousand of more. You know,

665
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: that's my conversation. And so I'm trying to right and

666
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: so it's interesting that it's big boy interest in that,

667
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: and I have to let you know that because your

668
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: platform is so big, and I find it interesting that

669
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: you only can see that the content is living in

670
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: a great place when you deal with things that you

671
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: know are kind of edgy, you know, instead of the information.

672
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: But this is my thing too, is that you know

673
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: somebody uh pgf Nook is somebody who I love the

674
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: album be put out and everything, but he also like

675
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: he's he's baiting me to ask those kind of questions

676
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: because he'll go on the record and say g DK

677
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, hey, I know what that means

678
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: and something on that record. I want to know, Like

679
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: you really you feel like that you would, you would

680
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: pop off on anybody you see, Like, who's like that?

681
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: Like that to me is interesting. Now if you want

682
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: to sit there and say no, I don't I don't

683
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: remember saying that. I would never say anything like that.

684
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get away with your fine. I'm

685
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: not gonna press the issue crazy. But it's like, if

686
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: you put it in a song, I get it. That's

687
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, And I have to respect the fact that

688
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: there's something there right I haven't identified how to move

689
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: with it. But there's something that when when they are

690
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: seeing these things on these records and then these Instagram posts,

691
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: and then you sit in front of me and I'm

692
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: dealing with an audience you understand. So there's something now

693
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: right and out of the the little respect from my audience,

694
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I need them to understand that I do ask shooted

695
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: things that need to be as you know, I love

696
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: you know what, other comments I love or I love

697
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: when I get a comments that are like, how the

698
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: fuck does this thirty eight year old white boy know

699
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? You know? I love

700
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: those comments of people who are like, answer, here's your tam,

701
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: he actually fucking understands the politics of this rapper and

702
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: this like how to like that? That to me means

703
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot too, because I just love people, and I

704
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: love culture and I love music and i love just

705
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: observing what's going on and I'm not trying to be

706
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: something I'm not. But at the same time, like when

707
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I know that I'm doing a really good job, I

708
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: could be reporting on a story that is not the

709
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: biggest thing. I just interviewed this YouTube or Booba x

710
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: one hundred boat one hundred X, sorry and he does

711
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot of he's a YouTuber and he's young, and

712
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: he's from the fucking streets, and he's doing a lot

713
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: of videos where he's doing shit with all these drill rappers,

714
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: which it's actually crazy what he does. He'll play their

715
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: opts music in front of him, and so then these

716
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: are dangerous. He's like a young kid from the hood

717
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: and he's making YouTube videos getting mad views doing this

718
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at it, like, bro, that's insane, Like

719
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I could never get away with that. I would never

720
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: even want to get away with that if I thought

721
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: I could get away with that, because you're really bating

722
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: some shit right there. I can't believe that the rappers

723
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: let them let him do that. And he's just out

724
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: here making content like that, and uh, you know, I

725
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: was doing the interview with him, and he's just like astonished,

726
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: like multiple times in the interview of like, WHOA, you're

727
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: really deep on YouTube that you know what the fuck

728
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: is going on in New York like that, you know,

729
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: And I like that's and see, I really am interested.

730
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: I do see that. Oftentimes I view you and say,

731
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: just based on like you said, the in depth interviews

732
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: you have with A like a old Jay, the juice man, right,

733
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: or some of these guys whose stories may not be

734
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: known to the masses. So you had to do either

735
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: some digging or you had to ben in attendance one

736
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: or two things happening, and either one of those things

737
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: have to lend itself to some sort of respect. So

738
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: I say, damn, he gotta respect the coldure. But then

739
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: on the other side, when Joe and said to you,

740
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: black cold mad black coach, you made your millionaire, you

741
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: paused almost like that is that the case? And on

742
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: our side it's like there's no pause needed there. How

743
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: do you do you you do understand that black coaching

744
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: made you a millionaire? Well, I think if you look

745
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: at my channel, it's like, what percentage of the interviews

746
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: are really with rappers? Are really like? You do a

747
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: lot of it, for sure, a lot, but it's not all.

748
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: Let's not deal with I made a lot of fun

749
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: people Hoorn. I made a lot of money off Bmax Biggs.

750
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I made a lot of money off a lot of it.

751
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: Now for sure. In a weird way, I do find

752
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: like that's kind of like it's it's it's kind of

753
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: like an exaggeration because the reality is that I make

754
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: mad money off everything I touch you. But that's because

755
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: of right. No Jumper is no Jumper because of the

756
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: triple lexes, because of the early little pumps, because of

757
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: the early This is why No Jumper is what it

758
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: is now. What you did with your business speaks to

759
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: the acumen, the business acumen. Pivoty, you got another building,

760
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: you move five times, you run into a D. That's

761
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: what changed a lot of things. AD brought a culture

762
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: here is well, did gave you an identity outside of

763
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: the interview, right, because for a while, No Jumper was

764
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: just me doing mad interviews, you know, and then I

765
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: was trying to like build up personalities along with the

766
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: no Jumper thing and everything. But a D was the

767
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: first one that we really felt like we had real

768
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: success with, Like it's actually like, oh a lot of

769
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: people are watching it, a lot of people are invested

770
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: in figuring out what this guy's like and how you're

771
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: going to get along with him and everything, and like,

772
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: oh shit, he can do a show without you and

773
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: people will fuck with it. And then we just kept

774
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: finding more and more talent like that. So yeah, I

775
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: mean I do agree that, like I have a pretty

776
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: uncanny ability to spot talent when it comes to both rappers,

777
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: like people to interview as well as like hosts. I

778
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: definitely think that, and I just, you know, I have

779
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: a very open mind because a lot of the people

780
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: who have been brought to the channel, like AD has

781
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: brought a couple of people to the channel that have

782
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: been very, very popular and successful. But also it's like,

783
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, he brought a bunch of people that I

784
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: kind of said no to. You know, It's like, but

785
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: the idea of like, yeah, have I made a lot

786
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: of money off of black culture? I mean yeah. To

787
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: be honest, I've been obsessed with black culture since I

788
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: was a young child. So it's like, what is what

789
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: feels funny about just saying, yeah, no, the black black

790
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: culture fuck with me. No, Triple X came and sat

791
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: with me. I'm not trying to deny that in any way.

792
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: I just felt like it kind of deserves a little

793
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: bit of clarification because it's like, if I was somebody

794
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: who could sit here and say that every fucking dollar

795
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I ever made was from black culture, then that might

796
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: be a fucking what if I see a bike culture? Right?

797
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: What if I said you you became a millionail bike Coulture.

798
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: We know that's not the case. We know more of

799
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: our culture than bike Coulture. Would you have that same

800
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: feeling about clarifying it then, No, that would just be

801
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: straight and accurate because I wasn't really making that much

802
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: money off the bike shop, but that was my thing

803
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: that kept me living for like ten years before I

804
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: managed to get into the hip hop shit. And I mean,

805
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately, at the end of the day, this

806
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: this is my thing about it is that I've seen

807
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: so many people complaining about me, academics of the lad

808
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: for so fucking long, and damn near none of them

809
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: have actually been able to create their own platform and

810
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: do something that really was able to, like, you know,

811
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: weaken the businesses that we've built. Now. On the other hand,

812
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people who've been able to

813
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: basically become very significant media personalities in their own right

814
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: off of the back of lad, off of the back

815
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: of my shit, etc. So, I mean, do we sometimes

816
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: make a bunch of money off black culture? Sure? Do

817
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: we also constantly put money into the hands of black

818
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: people by paying them for interviews or giving them shows

819
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: or you know all this other stuff. I mean you

820
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: got to take that into account too, because somebody like

821
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: a deal. Sit here at troll, sit here and tell

822
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: you sharp, I'll tell you all these different people of

823
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: color that I put on the channel, They'll tell you

824
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Adam gave me an opportunity when nobody who looks like

825
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: me was given me an opportunity, you know. And I'm

826
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna be real with you too though. The fact that

827
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: they are black to me is very done. I really

828
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: just genuinely like, that doesn't mean that much to me,

829
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: Like I don't really like look like they're they're black,

830
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: and that's part of that, right, right, I fuck with real?

831
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: How did you give a white guy an opportunity too?

832
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: It's not really you know, Yeah, I get that right.

833
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: I respect the funk out of that. Um. I would

834
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: argue you don't. I would argue, either you don't like academics,

835
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: that academics don't like you. We actually talk a pretty

836
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: good amount. Um. He says some stuff that people take

837
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: as like anti no Jumper sometimes on his stream or whatever,

838
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: But I don't really I feel like it's just kind

839
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: of trolling and fucking around whatever. There's been very few

840
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: things in recent memory that I've really been like bothered

841
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: that he said. You know how you feel about what

842
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: he's saying and what he's saying the two different things. Right,

843
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Your emotions may not be attached to what he's saying,

844
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: but the things he's saying ain't things people who liked

845
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: you would say. So what are you referring to? I

846
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: was looking today, right, You guys had a long conversation.

847
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: This is old thing, right, But I see him now

848
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: speaking to the to the young guy you have on

849
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: your platform now telling them that you know, uh, stick

850
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: no Jumper up, and you know a D gonna run

851
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: off with the bag. These things affect you business wise,

852
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: whether you know it or not to want to act

853
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: like these things. How these people make clips off of

854
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: these things? They're interested, They're amplifying. These things are amplified,

855
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: and that's what the fins do. Do you think the

856
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: market ignores that? Well? I mean think a D could

857
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: go anywhere else and be involved in a way that

858
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: he is at No Jumper for a price point at

859
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: that AD knows that he's free to have conversations with

860
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: me about money whenever he wants, and that he could talk,

861
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: he could ask for a raise, he could say that

862
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: he wants to do this, he could, you know, those

863
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: conversations are always open. My whole policy with everybody is like,

864
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: let's just be super transparent about money, about who's going

865
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: to be able to work to, you know, like I

866
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: just I don't shy away from that. And so that's why.

867
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: And honestly, like every time that that's happened where Academics

868
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: was saying some shit to trel or a d about

869
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: potentially hiring them or whatever, that always just ends up

870
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: in a conversation in the group chat about their loyalty

871
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: to the jumper and how that's not a temptation of

872
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: them and how you know, bro, but we come on, Adam, Man,

873
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: I come from this coach. That shit don't mean none.

874
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: A group chat about man, we loyal you to you

875
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: FAMI family, that shit don't mean you really don't believe him?

876
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: Huh man? Who believes niggas saying any But that's not

877
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for that kind of loyalty anywhere because

878
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: he get offered. Guess what it means if Academics offers

879
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: them twice as much money and I can't pay that,

880
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: I go for it. He ain't offer nobody none. He's

881
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: doing it deliberately to affect what you got going on.

882
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: He not even I think you're taking it a little

883
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: bit more serious. Not anyone involved. Okay, he's not taking

884
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: to that serious. I'm not taking that serious. A D

885
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: and Trel aren't taking to that serious. I don't even

886
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: think the fans are taking this. And it's because you guys,

887
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: and you can't control the narrative with these people. I

888
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: understand how this works. Listen, people don't say things like that.

889
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: And then I looked at the conversation, all these things

890
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: he was saying about your wife. Bro Okay, that that

891
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: was a while ago we had. But okay, you're trying

892
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: to convince me I should be mad about some stuff.

893
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: Trying to convince you of anything. I'm trying to clarify

894
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: that you guys are playing this little weird game with

895
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: each other like you like each other. But there's really

896
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: a situation where he continues to send shots at you

897
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: and you continue to ignore it like it doesn't happen.

898
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: He continues to say, Adams, my little nigga, and you

899
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: continue to act like man when I don't like you

900
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: could your people to find it right. And so all

901
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying is what's your true feelings on academics? Your

902
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: true feelings, my truth feelings. Honest, there are kind of

903
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: the same as when I came in the game, because

904
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: I was looking at his channel when I started my channel,

905
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: and I thought that what he was doing was incredible,

906
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: and I would say kind of the same thing. Now,

907
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's a very good interviewer. He's one of

908
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: the few rap interviewers I would put in my league,

909
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, like there's just not that and in terms

910
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: of there's interviewing and then there's building a business. So

911
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: he's done both. Lad has done both. Think he's a

912
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: terrible interview and I think, really, man, I think praise

913
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: that's not deserved. It's sad tie you, And I believe

914
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: this is sad tie you. What you're doing, what this

915
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: dude is not a good interview And why do you

916
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: say that it's a snooze fist? Really, I don't think

917
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: anyone South in the in the South, we believe that

918
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: to be a snooze fist. And maybe I'm mate, maybe

919
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm off till it's yo. You see, I gave you

920
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: your props. I viewed this game very I don't I'm

921
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: not many people that much props on interviews I know,

922
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been doing but I would say he's

923
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: very good. I think you have a fear of academics

924
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: for some strange reason. No, that's not true. I mean,

925
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: or maybe he came in with you in those things

926
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: that something is happening. But anything he knows about me,

927
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: he has put it on front street at some point. Well,

928
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: so you're telling me that if someone has disrespected me,

929
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: I should never be able to get past it. No, okay,

930
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: especially if you don't know men, we had no real

931
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: relationship to begin with. When he dealt with a situation

932
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: with the game, somebody, I'm getting money, We're blessed into

933
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: this game, and then this situation happened that he said, damn,

934
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: I can't identify what just hold on, I don't know

935
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: what made that happen. You just was doing outlet about

936
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: my wife and how she liked trained, what whole wall?

937
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: WHOA what did I do that warrant that? And if

938
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: I can't understand that, I have to think like fifty

939
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: cent thought in that moment and say, if I don't

940
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: know what caused the reaction, I can't be involved in

941
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: any way. No, I mean I totally understand what Because

942
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: of that situation, we had a whole thing that played

943
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: out over a period of time, okay, And I mean

944
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: you know, we got past people actually got to see

945
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: us have the whole patching it up conversation, and I respected.

946
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: There's been other conversations that took place behind the scenes

947
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: and everything. But you know, he's been I've been on

948
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: his podcast two times. He did the whole No Jumper

949
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Show thing with that, he has actually done a formal

950
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: interview sense all that. But you know, I mean, yeah,

951
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: I got respect whatever, Adam, I got respect for what

952
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: you do behind this mic. I've studied the entire thing

953
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: from top to bottom, and I understand exactly where you

954
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: stand in this right. I don't think you need these guys.

955
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't think whatever respect whatever weird game you're playing

956
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: where you're not standing on the business as far as

957
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: disrespect is disrespect, man, niggle. So you're saying that if

958
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I've ever been disrespected by anybody, that I can't in

959
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: this competitive space. I'm not saying that, because then I

960
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: would not be standing for what I understand to be

961
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: the case of life, which is growing in elevating. I

962
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: understand that to be the case. I'm saying, unwarranted things

963
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: happening to me will not be accepted, right, and there's

964
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: no understanding for things that were not warranted. And for

965
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: you as me, I'm saying everything that happened to you

966
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: would act. In my opinion, how far he went was unwarned. No, totally.

967
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate some of the things he said during

968
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: all that, for sure, And I mean a lot of

969
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: it started because of things that I had said about

970
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: him that he didn't appreciate or whatever. But we got

971
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: pastors and shout out to y'all relationship. But I don't

972
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: say that to effect that. Again, I'm trying to understand,

973
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: is these little weird games being played in media? Because

974
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: I come in with the money, my shit on the float,

975
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and I got deals everywhere. So I come in saying,

976
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: is that they playing this a little weird game because

977
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: I know Adam don't need At and AT don't need Adam.

978
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: But okay, think about what the game is is that

979
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: if you kind of look at where we're both at

980
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: in terms of the content and everything, it's like there

981
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: are two different ways that you could judge US. Academics

982
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: can sit on Twitch and talk his shit, and it

983
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: will dominate the fucking headlines that'll be I mean the

984
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: real headlines in the world, on the blogs whatever. Like

985
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: he's just very He's probably better than anybody else in

986
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: hip hop at just getting on the mic and saying

987
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: his opinions about ship and then having it be like

988
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: controversial enough that everybody fucking talks about it. So you

989
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: got to give it to him. For me, he is

990
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: he's relevant in the culture. My shit is a little

991
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 1: different because I'm not necessary like we do talk about

992
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: all the current events and everything interview. But but I'll

993
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: give you an example when he when Takeoff dies, he

994
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: runs to Twitch to document every last bit of what

995
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: was going on in the video. I didn't even think

996
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: of that. I saw him doing it, and I'm like, oh,

997
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good idea. I didn't my brain doesn't

998
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: necessarily see that being a good idea. Well, I mean,

999
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: content wise, he had like fifty thousand viewers, so at

1000
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: least in the moment of misment sticks a different let me.

1001
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: But but this is what I'm saying, is that then

1002
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: at the same time, though, you look at a jumper

1003
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, there's like ten hosts on it. Now.

1004
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: The one thing that he hasn't really done is he

1005
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: hasn't really like built up a bunch of hosts under him.

1006
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: And I know that he said that he wants to

1007
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: do that, but he hasn't necessarily And I understand why

1008
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: he's kind of moving slow on it because it's like

1009
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: he is able to be so profitable just by being

1010
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: himself on camera. But when he's like saying that shit

1011
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: to troll and a d I almost take it as

1012
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: like an acknowledgement of like he sees that I'm building this,

1013
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: and he sees and he knows that he has to

1014
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: at some point that that's something that he wants to

1015
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: kind of do as well, right, And so you know

1016
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: what I mean in ways it is to acknowledge that

1017
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: without doing it that way. I know you're good at this,

1018
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: so you could do that. Give me your top five

1019
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: hip hop analysts or excuse me, media guys, media guys, fuck,

1020
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean interviewers. Is kind of like, let's do that well, interviewers.

1021
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: I say, you gotta give me vlad an Ac and God,

1022
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: why do you keep putting acting this and what classic interviews?

1023
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: Give me one? I just gotta be real. I can't

1024
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: give me one interview, give me one quote any listen.

1025
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: But I'm not even saying that he had me one

1026
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: question because most of his interviews are on Spotify, where

1027
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: there aren't not necessarily allowed to like live on their

1028
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: own on YouTube whatever. But when I see him do interviews,

1029
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: I consider him one of the best people doing interviews.

1030
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: Give you that. I can't argue with you. It's about taste,

1031
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: not opinion. And Vlad I think is incredible at what

1032
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: he does. And I mean other hip hop interviews that

1033
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: I really think that you could put in the top five.

1034
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: That's a really good question, because I don't you know,

1035
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: I like math offa. I'll give it to math Off.

1036
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: I think math has been doing a really great job.

1037
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: I think he deserved near the top of the total. Okay,

1038
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: you putting Math up there, shout out, there's be I

1039
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: like math Math good stuff to the table. Honestly, if

1040
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: I had my YouTube subscriptions open right now, I might

1041
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: be able to look at it and like tell you

1042
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: even more. But I don't know. Right Um, Charlotte Man,

1043
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: you gotta give Charlotmagn's up there. Yeah, Charlotte Magne's the

1044
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: goal it's a little different because he was like two

1045
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: co host the radio thing. But yeah, she's the goal.

1046
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: He's definitely up there. Yeah, I think I see you

1047
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: left Joe off of that what's your thing with Joe?

1048
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: But Joe doesn't interview many people? What's your thing? Would Joe?

1049
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: You have anything with Joe? Joe where it's like Joe's okay,

1050
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: but but he barely interviews people. And he would acknowledge

1051
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: that he does like less than one interview a money.

1052
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: He's interviewing the frames. Well, he talks to his friends. Yeah,

1053
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: but I mean with Joe, it's like I came in

1054
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: the game looking up to him. The first time he

1055
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: ever invited me over to chill was mind blowing, Like

1056
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: I can't all believe that this dude even wants to

1057
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: be around me in any way. Um, and I didn't

1058
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: take I mean, one thing I think a lot of

1059
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: people miss from the Joe Budden thing is that as

1060
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: soon as that shit ended, everybody's laughing, smiling, patting each

1061
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: other on the back. I'm wondering, is this fake media shit?

1062
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: Like is that happening with that? Because that's fake media. Ship.

1063
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say it's fake it's just that it's

1064
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: like an acknowledgement that we all kill what we're doing

1065
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: when we're on camera. Yeah, and I can agree with that,

1066
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of people. This is not unique to

1067
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: hip hop because a lot of times I've heard about

1068
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: like left wing politicians and right wing politicians and people

1069
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: who are writers who are left wing Democrats or right

1070
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: wing Republicans, and they'll be at these conferences and they'll

1071
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: see each other and sometimes they'll actually say to each

1072
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: other like, oh, yeah, we should we should collapse, like

1073
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: we should we should yell at each other on Twitter

1074
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: or do a stream or do it and do where

1075
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: we basically just like completely bitch at each other human

1076
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: each other. But that's that's like working together. So so

1077
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: the thing with Joe, like there's definitely a probably a

1078
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: lot of moments where you could look at that in

1079
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: isolation and be like, damn, this motherfucker hates at him,

1080
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: but the real and actually even in the interview, there's

1081
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: one point where he was saying like you are this,

1082
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: like you are such you're a culture vulture, and I'm like,

1083
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: that's not true, because you fuck with me, you fuck

1084
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: with me, I know you love me, and that's and

1085
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: that's why I know that you're just kind of you're

1086
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: sort of kind of trolling right here in the interview,

1087
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: and he it wasn't even like he really didn't see that.

1088
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: That fake media shit is weird to me, right or listen,

1089
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm here to get some information. I think that's what

1090
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: my tipping point is, like what are they doing? They're

1091
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: faking it and then they acting like I got some

1092
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: smoke for you, and then they ain't really trying to

1093
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: figure it out. Because in my opinion, you did extremely

1094
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: well in that position. But the thing is is that

1095
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: the best podcast are kind of like your best friends,

1096
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, your closest homie. You could

1097
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: be at the bar, you could be at a restaurant,

1098
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: or you could just be hanging out. You could have

1099
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: a a two hour argument about whether it's content, whether

1100
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: it's about right. But even off camera, I'm saying like

1101
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: whether it's about oh, this guy beat up his bitch

1102
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: and then this happened and that there he should have

1103
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 1: done this and he should have done this or whatever,

1104
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: or it could be some shit that's more lighthearted, like oh,

1105
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, some relationships shit, whatever. You could have a

1106
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: two three hour argument where you're calling each other names

1107
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: and you're screaming on each other and getting super into it,

1108
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: and then at the end of it, you're still just friends,

1109
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: right right, And that's kind of like, even though I

1110
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: barely fucking know the other guys on the Joe Buddon

1111
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: podcast besides Joe, that's kind of how it felt. It

1112
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: was like, hell, yeah, we just did, like we just

1113
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: made some dope content. Realistically, we pretty much believe everything

1114
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: we said, but also fu yeah, let's go outside, and

1115
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: it's dope, right. I just hate him all alone. And

1116
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: he said a lot about Joe um and and his

1117
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: business practices and things like, day, how do you feel

1118
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: about has Joe was reigning his business over the years, Well,

1119
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: it seems like it could leave a little bit to

1120
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: be desired. I mean, Mal and Rory walked out of

1121
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: there pretty unhappy, and I definitely felt like watching that

1122
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: play out made me do a lot of thinking about

1123
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: what I was gonna have to do in order to

1124
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: keep no jump or solid, you know. And I feel

1125
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: like the biggest ship that it seems like Mall and

1126
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,760
Speaker 1: Joe or Mall and Rory were unhappy about, was basically

1127
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: the lack of transparency, the fact that they didn't feel

1128
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: like they had like full access to like what they

1129
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: were being paid or how how they should be paying paid, etc.

1130
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: And like, you know, that shit is super insulting to

1131
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: a creative for sure. Like you know, like everybody, even

1132
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: if you are a one percent partner in a business

1133
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: and you're you're making way less than everybody else involved,

1134
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: it's like you still want to know what the fuck

1135
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: your one percent looks like. That's just like being a man,

1136
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: you want to know what you're sure. And So I

1137
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: mean with that, I feel like that's super understandable, and

1138
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: that's a big part of why I always try to

1139
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: approach everybody on the team about money, about whatever, like

1140
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: let's just be super straight up with each other. So

1141
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: and I think that it just involves being very, very human,

1142
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: Like when we're in the group chat and sometimes we'll

1143
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: there'll be a big fucking argument going on in the morning,

1144
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: or somebody will be saying something crazy that I don't like,

1145
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't agree with. I gotta take a breath and

1146
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: think I'm not gonna dive in right here and say

1147
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 1: shit that I can't take back, or say the wild

1148
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: that I could think of in my head the meanest

1149
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: shit that I could think of, it's gonna hurt somebody's

1150
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: feelings whatever. It's like, No, I gotta I gotta like

1151
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: try to be the grown up in the room more

1152
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: often than not. And yes, I gotta stand on my

1153
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: shit and if I really feel a certain type of way.

1154
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: But one thing that I've gotten a lot better at

1155
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: it is like, if I got a problem with somebody

1156
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: in the group chat, well I'm gonna fucking text them

1157
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: separately exactly. I'm not gonna do it in front of

1158
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: an audience in the group chat, because I feel like

1159
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: that's a lot like like if if a d said

1160
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: something or also, I try to really like, Okay, last night,

1161
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of people saying, oh, AD said

1162
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: this and that about you on stream and he's being

1163
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: messy and he's being disloyal, Yetta, yetta, and I'm starting

1164
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: to see it, and I'm starting to like, man, I'm

1165
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: starting to feel like, what the fuck does motherfucker say?

1166
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: And I even thought about texting them before I fucking

1167
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: and then I hop on YouTube and I watched the

1168
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: full thirty five minute video and I'm like, I don't listen,

1169
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: it's nothing. It's like it's like there's like one moment

1170
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: in the whole thing, and it wasn't even something he

1171
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: said where I was like I didn't like that one thing, right, right.

1172
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: But it's also like, you know, and I owe him

1173
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: that to not just jump off the narratives. Yeah right,

1174
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: and but dig in. Man, that's pressure, brother, because it

1175
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: takes you two minutes to read one hundred comments, and

1176
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: it'll take you an hour or two hours to watch

1177
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: the past. You say his perspective, say, hey, man, who

1178
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: are you talking about like that? You run with that? Right? Um?

1179
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: I remember you say it because over there with Joe

1180
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: did Joe was hard to work with? You believe it?

1181
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean it would appear from like the way that

1182
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: things went with Spotify that it was not maybe the

1183
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: easiest person to work with with that when you see

1184
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: how the complex thing went down. I mean, there's just

1185
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: a lot of different types of people in terms of business.

1186
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: Joe's somebody who he sees what's going on. He's paying

1187
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: very close attention. He's extremely aware of what he thinks

1188
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: he's worth, even if sometimes he's kind of like maybe

1189
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: exaggerating what he's worth. You know, and it's like with

1190
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: the Complex shit fuck. I forget the exact numbers, but

1191
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: I think it was something like AC was getting, like

1192
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: maybe they were both getting like ten or twenty thousand

1193
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: a month. I wish I could remember the exact things.

1194
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: And AC was chilling. AC wasn't like asking for more money,

1195
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: even though like the ship was going pretty good on

1196
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: Complex right when they were doing that every day struggle,

1197
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: and Joe pretty much was like, I want, you know,

1198
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: two or three times as much, and I want like

1199
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: this percentage ownership or whatever of the brand partnerships, like

1200
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: you know, if they got a Nike deal, he wanted

1201
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: to have part of it. I wish I could remember

1202
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: the exact numbers. But you know, then in comparison, AC

1203
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: was kind of just like looking at it in a

1204
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: different way where he was thinking, I'm on Complex, I'm

1205
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: getting my face out there more. This is like earlier

1206
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: in his career, he's thinking, I'm gonna just rock out

1207
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: with us for a couple of years, and I'm not

1208
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: necessarily thinking about like demanding the most money right away.

1209
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: It didn't take Joe very long to be like, yo,

1210
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: I want a lot more money, which I respect Joe

1211
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: doing that he was starving. But but yeah, and then

1212
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, when you think it acts like

1213
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: acts kind of like seeing the value of building a

1214
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: relationship with complex long term. And he's wasn't starving at

1215
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: come in with the YouTube money Joe starving, push up

1216
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: with the stall. His money might not have been great,

1217
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: and I know it wasn't great, man, He's kind of said,

1218
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: that's yeah, So that's just that's just what it is.

1219
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's two different ways to approach you, you know.

1220
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like that too, where it's like, listen, I

1221
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: could get brand deals all day for let's let's say

1222
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars, and then I could also be like, no,

1223
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a brand deal and it's like a

1224
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: thirty thousand, right, and then maybe I only get to

1225
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: do a couple of brand deals here and there, right,

1226
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, or you you know, or you

1227
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: could just kind of like keep your rate a little

1228
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: bit more moderate and just keep getting to do the shit.

1229
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: You know. It's pretty much your decision for each person,

1230
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: I think. So, so when you think that, when you

1231
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: when you say Joe was hard to work with, what

1232
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: do you say to people who say you're hard to

1233
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: work with, because I've seen what I worked with nobody. Well,

1234
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: I've seen what it's saying that you have an issue

1235
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: with with people speaking about what happens on the compound

1236
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: or hit No Jumple on their streams. I would I

1237
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,479
Speaker 1: would identify that as being over zealous, no a reach,

1238
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: But the thing I was doing there was really just

1239
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: trying to because Okay, one thing about my platform that's

1240
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: different than a lot of platforms is if you look

1241
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: at something like Barstool Sports, they will give you a deal.

1242
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: They'll say, here's your check for the year or for

1243
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: the month or whatever, and this is how much money

1244
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: you're getting. And you're doing content, you're doing this podcast

1245
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: with us, and you ain't really doing anything else outside

1246
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: of this, Like you could do whatever the fuck you want,

1247
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: but you can't really be on camera outside of this, right.

1248
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: So my thing was from when we started this, I

1249
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking like, oh, I'm gonna lock ad up in

1250
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: a contract. I'm gonna lock t rel up in a

1251
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: contract so that they can't do shit outside of there.

1252
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: So as a result, a lot of them have started

1253
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: their own streams and shit, and some of them are

1254
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: having real success some of them, it's kind of whatever,

1255
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: But like, damn near like half the host on the

1256
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: platform brought more than half and a bunch of people

1257
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: who work here. They all got their own different thing,

1258
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: And to me, I don't really see a stream or

1259
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: a podcast as being all that different from having your

1260
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: own on Instagram or having a TikTok or whatever the

1261
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: fuck it is. So that's not something that I've felt

1262
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: the need to be like extremely controlling about. But the

1263
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: one thing that I brought up was basically that I

1264
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of people on our team were

1265
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: kind of like taking the incentives that are right there

1266
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: of oh, you can make content about your friends and

1267
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: talk shit about your friends and fucking get into MESSI

1268
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: ass shit about your friends, and they were letting that

1269
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: get in the way of them just being good friends.

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Speaker 1: And I brought an example to the table. I said, like, listen,

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00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: look at all the crews that we look at and

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00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: hip hop that we respect how they move. I'm gonna

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: bring up TD as an example. I feel like probably

1274
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: over the years, there's been some times where Kendrick had

1275
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: some animosity towards somebody on the team or SCHOOLBOOKQ not

1276
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 1: getting along with somebody or the manager at the they're

1277
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: not getting along this this shit going on behind the scenes, right,

1278
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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I don't even need somebody to tell me.

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00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: I just know that there's been drama. We don't know

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Speaker 1: about it. Fucking QC megoes whatever. This crazy amounts of

1281
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 1: ship for sure. But I mean even just the megos along.

1282
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly there's recipes take off, but clearly before

1283
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: Pete takeoff. I'm sorry Pete take take off, but before

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01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: all that even, I mean clearly there was drama going on.

1285
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: We didn't know about it because they're not coming out

1286
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: and talking about it. I was just telling my team

1287
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: I want us to move more like that. If you

1288
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: have a problem with me, come talk to me. Don't

1289
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: go on the stream and say, oh, I think Adam

1290
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: kind of might be doing this. Even if you feel

1291
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: like you're kind of joking or you feel like it's

1292
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: it's for content, it's funny or whatever it's like. And

1293
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that they could talk about

1294
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: with me that I don't give two fucks, But when

1295
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: it's stuff that kind of gets a little bit serious.

1296
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: So it ain't the fact that they're making content, it's

1297
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: the things that it's the stirring of the pot that

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01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: you see, right. I feel like, if anything, I deserve

1299
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for being so open minded and

1300
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: telling them to go get the money. Last night, I

1301
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: was on Trel's stream with him and his girl and

1302
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: his homie Smackle three hours. So I just went pulled

1303
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: up supporting dope, did the whole thing dope, Yeah, just

1304
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: just because I fuck with him doing his own thing

1305
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: and I want to support that. So I don't like.

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01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: My only thing about it was that sometimes like to

1307
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: jump in there and be like, listen, we ain't moving right.

1308
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: And because because Kendrick or schoolboy Q now, granted, like

1309
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: they all got enough money, they ain't really incentive of

1310
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: it by shit. But I mean, they know they could

1311
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: be in the headlines. They know they could have some

1312
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: viral YouTube clips if they were talking shit about each other,

1313
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: but they don't do it. You know, Quavo could have

1314
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,439
Speaker 1: had a five million view YouTube video if he wanted

1315
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: to make a video saying this is why me and

1316
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: Off don't get along, but they don't do it. That's

1317
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: all I was saying to my team was like, let's

1318
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: move more as a unit, and like and There's been

1319
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff like that, even where I've told

1320
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: people like, hey, I can't really fuck with you if

1321
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: you're fucking with this person that I look at as

1322
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: an op and we have a real conversation about it,

1323
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: and we decide that we're gonna move differently. We're gonna

1324
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: not We're not gonna like just go fuk with different

1325
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: people that we don't fuck with. We gotta like move

1326
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: a little bit differently, or at least that's how I

1327
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: want to move as a unit, you know, because the

1328
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: truth is is that I could get a lot of

1329
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: fucking views talking about everybody else's drama. We're gonna get

1330
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: less drunk, We're gonna have less views talking about each

1331
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: other because a lot of us are not as you

1332
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: many people. Right, you may get live, but they may

1333
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: get And that's where it becomes unfair. Right, And I wonder,

1334
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: why don't you feel like it's a workaround, like it's

1335
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: a marketing tool. Why do you feel like it stops

1336
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: there right that narrative doesn't continue to bring those views

1337
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: back to no jumper? Is there any credence today you

1338
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: lend any credence to the workaround? But see, that's the

1339
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: thing is that bringing viewers to No Jumper is cool

1340
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: and everything, but ultimately I think us moving in a

1341
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: respectable way is a lot more. And this show right

1342
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: to say because we have to ignore the incentives, because

1343
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: like the thing about what my life would be like

1344
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: if I just followed the incentives, Dope, that's a good game.

1345
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: If I followed the incentives. Listen, maybe this interview comes

1346
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: out and I think to myself, you know what, I

1347
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: get a million viewers, I'm gonna make a YouTube video

1348
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: saying fuck this dude, Like that really might work. Yeah,

1349
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: but I'm a piece of shit if I do that.

1350
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: You know, if I got a problem with you, us

1351
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: should call your ATAXT or whatever it is. You know.

1352
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: So it's like that's one thing I think a lot

1353
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: of people. Sometimes you get into wrap or have a

1354
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: hard time or get into making content about rap or whatever.

1355
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes have a hard time realizing is like give up

1356
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: the short term value for the long term brown building

1357
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: up being a good personal account. That's good game, man.

1358
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: They need to soak that up. I appreciate you, man,

1359
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm coming back. I know you're a busy man, you know, so,

1360
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: uh another episode, man, it's up that podcast get that game,

1361
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: do something with it. Adam twenty two skinny Man, Good time,

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Speaker 1: Seah