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Speaker 1: Sorry if I seem a little distracted today.

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Speaker 2: No, I.

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Speaker 3: I just want to apologize in advance. If I seem

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Speaker 3: distracted at all, that's not No. I am not personal,

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Speaker 3: that's not towards you.

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Speaker 4: I just it's fine.

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Speaker 1: I have my own stuff going actually.

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Speaker 4: Relate to it. I feel like what you're alluding to

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Speaker 4: is probably I'm just sort of feeling this type of

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Speaker 4: episode I think requires something of us that I don't

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Speaker 4: currently have it. I wish I had another day, That's

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Speaker 4: how I'm feeling.

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Speaker 1: I think that would help me.

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Speaker 4: You're alluding to something specific. Mine is just sort of

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Speaker 4: a non specific like I definitely.

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Speaker 3: Wish I had another day or possibly more days than that,

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Speaker 3: to not do this. Okay, we are doing it now,

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Speaker 3: that's okay.

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Speaker 4: Something something is distracting you specifically.

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Speaker 3: I guess yeah, you could say that, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to say what it is?

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Speaker 1: Or oh, fine, you don't have I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't care. You don't have to. I do not.

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Speaker 4: I do not need to know, begg. I appreciate knowing

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Speaker 4: that you have something going on this distracting you, and

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Speaker 4: I've actually find just moving on and getting into that.

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Speaker 4: I wish we'd have to. But I wish I had

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Speaker 4: at least probably more than.

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Speaker 1: There's a mongoose in my car.

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Speaker 4: The the animal.

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Speaker 3: The animal, it's alive, the snake hunting animal.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that that's the only thing I really know.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know what it looks like. The only

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Speaker 4: thing I know about it is that a weasel.

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Speaker 3: That I mean, go look in my car if you

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Speaker 3: want to see. It's like the only thing that is

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Speaker 4: Kill a snake. So it is alive, yes, okay, tell

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Speaker 4: you it's not alive the snake, that's right, yes, okay.

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Speaker 4: And so that that's why you introduced a mongoose in der.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but now what am I going to put into

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Speaker 3: attack the mug? Because the fucking thing don't want to

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Speaker 3: let me drive, you know what I mean, don't want

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Speaker 4: It wants to drive.

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Speaker 3: I can't talk, obviously, but there's a conversation happening, which

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Speaker 3: is I killed the snake. I should get to pick

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Speaker 3: the music. I should get to pick kind of where

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Speaker 3: we're headed. So it's frustrated. It's not like commandeering anything.

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Speaker 3: It's just talking.

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Speaker 4: No, it can't talk, I understand, but it's just verbalizing,

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Speaker 4: like it's vocalizing.

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Speaker 3: It's making a lot of sounds, and it's and there's

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Speaker 3: wheel and is commandeering wheel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that word common deer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, commander.

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Speaker 3: When I said how I've heard it, the.

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Speaker 4: Commander is also it is commandering the wheel around. So

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Speaker 4: when I said it the first time, you you said

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Speaker 4: no because you you just didn't know what that meant.

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Speaker 3: The way you said it sounded so fucked up to

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Speaker 3: me that I just was like, let me get as

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Speaker 4: Where did you get You got it? You bought it somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I didn't buy it, but yeah, I got it somewhere.

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Speaker 4: You got it from the wild?

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Speaker 3: No, I got it from a store, but you stole it.

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Speaker 4: From a store. Okay, okay, I I think we should start.

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Speaker 1: And this is fun Stark going to call the cops.

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Speaker 4: This is blow it up, scus man. It's a dynamic

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Speaker 4: that we have had before. I don't think I don't

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Speaker 4: this group, even did an episode with this group. So

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Speaker 4: I am just feeling very behind on sort of what

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Speaker 4: they've been up to, why they're back, if there's like

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Speaker 4: a specific thing that like brought them, it's we have.

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Speaker 3: Do we just want to give the floor to our guests.

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Speaker 3: I think we both have pretty thoroughly acknowledged that we're

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Speaker 3: not prepared to do the episode. Do we just want

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Speaker 3: to let I don't want to do that either, catch

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Speaker 4: I actually don't want to do that either, but I'm

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Speaker 4: happy to introduce them and get them started. We have

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Speaker 4: Dom is here or he's not here, He's he's somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't join us, but Dom is

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Speaker 3: And this is that a new place?

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Speaker 5: Dum uh, it's it's where I've been kind of, It's

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Speaker 5: where I've been held for the last several months. It's

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Speaker 5: a I'm in, I'm in a w G A holding

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Speaker 5: cell is what I mean? A Writer's Guild of America

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Speaker 4: Okay, let me should we? Maybe this will help put

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Speaker 4: it on? So the sgusman is here?

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Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, what what's upgus man?

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Speaker 5: You don't know?

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Speaker 3: Motherfucker?

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Speaker 2: That's something called me? He has, motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: A sunglasses case on his like crotch area. I thought

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Speaker 5: I was gonna ask what I thought it.

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Speaker 4: Was, resting on it, and then he separated, never moved,

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Speaker 5: I was like, he's cod pieces.

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Speaker 3: I thought this was an odd place just to set it.

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Speaker 3: But as it's gone on, it's like, no, no, it

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Speaker 3: never is anywhere, and he is attending to it now,

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Speaker 3: not removing it.

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Speaker 4: He's just zipping it.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that's how you use it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, sunglasses were in there, now they're coming.

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Speaker 2: It's it's my new style is to put the the

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Speaker 4: And are those things.

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Speaker 3: I believe and I remember you emailing me that you

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Speaker 3: were gonna get these those are the Cartman respect my

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Speaker 3: authoritop frames? Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly? That's that's what That's what I based my

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Speaker 2: whole persona on. Is Cartman respect my thorn?

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Speaker 4: Tap good?

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Speaker 2: I do I do it pretty good? I do that

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I felt like I said, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Am I a cartoon now? Or did Cartman become real life?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm I'm sitting with Cartman and they being told

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Speaker 4: So in the past. Discus, I'm just trying to remember

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Speaker 3: You're you're such a sort of renaissance man, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm like Leonard Bernstein, I got a lot of I

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Speaker 2: got a lot of things and a lot of irons

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Speaker 4: Did the movie about Okay, yeah, you're suing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you've seen it, and I

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Speaker 2: I saw it. I'm fucking pissed, man, I'm fucking real

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Speaker 4: It because things going on.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm like, oh, that's like me. They're doing me.

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Speaker 1: Steps on a lot of what you were.

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Speaker 4: Trying to do. I didn't see the movie. When I

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Speaker 4: Maybe I guess maybe they covered that in the movie.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's like he made music.

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Speaker 5: He made a lot of like almost obsessively. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: Music, just like which is sort of the only thing

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Speaker 3: you don't do. Yes, so it does feel targeted in

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Speaker 3: a way. Well, Uh, the Elvis movie, you had a

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Speaker 2: I did have a similar issue with that. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: I do a lot of stuff and I'm watching them

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Speaker 1: But with Elvis, he did the army.

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Speaker 4: Right right, like you know.

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Speaker 2: Movies. Yeah, and uh he got that you know house,

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Speaker 1: Go to, which you have had your eye on something

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to build my own by getting more.

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Speaker 4: You've been trying to build your own house that people. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: grace out of buses bus. I remember the but like

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Speaker 4: the scuz bus is a big part of your identity.

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Speaker 2: I have the buses. I have a water bus now,

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Speaker 3: But this is what I love about scus Man that

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Speaker 3: I parked my bus on a rickety pier and when

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Speaker 3: which is a water bus exactly.

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Speaker 2: So, and I have another bus also perpendicular to that

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Speaker 4: It's perpendicular.

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Speaker 4: What it means.

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Speaker 5: He's he told me the other day that breakfast is

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Speaker 2: It's perpendicular to the front of us. So it's even

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Speaker 2: more in the water. So you go on the water

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Speaker 2: through the other the front. I get to the perpendicular one.

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Speaker 1: I hate to do this, like just so people can

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Speaker 4: I feel like this is trying to picture it is

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Speaker 4: like how they detect who's a replicat or something like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wanted to try you.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask if there was a letter shape

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Speaker 3: that we could associate with or anything.

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Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I would say, are we are we?

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Speaker 4: How are we with the letters?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We are?

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Speaker 2: We going like, well, I'm right, I know all of them.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I know all of them.

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Speaker 5: Well okay, well see this is where me and the

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Speaker 5: s Guysman have a little bit of a falling out recently.

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Speaker 5: If I if I can get it that way.

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Speaker 5: Holding a waiting arbitration? Yeah, I mean, if you want

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Speaker 5: sold it called who Wants to Be a Busionnaire? Okay,

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Speaker 4: And so that would mean at any time you can

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Speaker 5: So you could choose to if you answer four questions right,

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Speaker 3: Show, sorry, during the judgment that came from like the

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Speaker 4: But they made the show.

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Speaker 5: I mean the network had some input. I mean it

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Speaker 4: Time is not above board, Like that's right.

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Speaker 5: It was all below board, okay. And I mean I

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Speaker 5: but this was below board because we was under the boardwalk.

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Speaker 5: That's where the bus was.

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Speaker 3: The bus was there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love belowboard.

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Speaker 5: We took the show out basically as soon as the

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Speaker 3: That seems like a great opportunity because you talking about

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Speaker 5: That's right. And and and I had kind of the

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Speaker 5: with me on this, and I was like, well, that's

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Speaker 5: and so he said, no, it's a game show, it

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Speaker 5: won't be like that. But the more we kind of

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Speaker 3: Out, last thing you want to do, last thing you'd

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that's what. Yeah, I and what I've kind

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Speaker 3: Sorry, and I honor the guilds and everything, but I

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry, I thought you were calling scabbing trees and

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Speaker 5: you're you're saying treason against the United States or something

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're just saying it's the last thing you'd want

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Speaker 4: Do is murder. Right, They're kind of like what Chris

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Speaker 4: Benwah did for except this is one example the last

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Speaker 5: I think like the crippler cross face to like his

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Speaker 3: And but any case, really Dorner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. That's also And then I'm not organizing

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Speaker 3: Scabbing, which is bad. But I think we can say

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Speaker 5: No, I need to be more intentional with my words,

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Speaker 5: and I yeah, being Charles Manson would be a worse thing.

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Speaker 4: And I just want to every time any of us

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Is that? I don't know what that's about.

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Speaker 5: In the writer. In the writers, all the hairs on

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Speaker 5: I think like in a like we've always had them

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Speaker 2: But it's.

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Speaker 5: Us man, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Take down a tray of scabs. I'm odd, Yeah, just

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Speaker 2: like I I put them in my contract because I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you'd have to because they're never going to be

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Speaker 2: They could be anything. They can be from anything, it

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Speaker 4: And you put your rider no brown scabs, and that's

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Speaker 4: how you know they're reading the rider like you'll eat

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Speaker 3: But no, because because there's so many pirate technics involved

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Speaker 4: Do you need them like you'll eat it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh of course.

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Speaker 5: But as anyway, and I apologize for saying that scabbing

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Speaker 5: avoid doing during the strike, fair to say, Okay, And

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Speaker 3: Sounds like there's like a narrative story taking there was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he ken just the fact that there are meetings

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Speaker 3: Didn't take place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I was kind of thinking. I was kind

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Speaker 5: For me, it was like, the engine is probably the

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Speaker 2: Sure, the engine, this is one of the big sticking

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't think that's important.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're gonna drive it, sure, but

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Speaker 4: Uh the wait? I just want to say you've been here,

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Speaker 3: Told, whatever you've heard him say, that's what he's told

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sorry, So you can tell us I was

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Speaker 4: Are you okay? Or you can like prompt him to

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Speaker 2: But if yeah, so did you tell him about him

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't tell him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now, well then we also have a circle

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Speaker 5: Okay, this was part of our communication problem is that

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Speaker 4: About people, especially if it's an idea of as simple

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Speaker 2: Well, all right, pertaining to the show, did you tell

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Speaker 4: Is that we that we asked, was he did?

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Speaker 3: Scene, sorry scus Man as a producer wanted to be

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Speaker 5: So so the way I found out about what he

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Speaker 5: But when he saw that scene, you got really you

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Speaker 5: And so I wrote that version.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying because I usually think of

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Speaker 3: They don't normally kind of front porch it with a

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Speaker 3: bit of a speech about how they're going to fire.

451
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Speaker 4: There's a whole movie about it, and he doesn't even

452
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: end up doing it in the whole movie.

453
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: They just like they pushed that off so much, which

454
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: I really didn't like. I was just like that, come on,

455
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 2: what's going on.

456
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: I had written a scene where he was he was

457
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 5: putting vasilina on himself because he said that he felt

458
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 5: his skin felt too rough. And he said, no, I

459
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 5: should be putting vasilina myself to make it easier for

460
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 5: me to fall down, Okay, And I said okay, And

461
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 5: so I had him and again, as if you're saying, like, wow,

462
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 5: this sounds very scripted, this is part of why I'm

463
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 5: in the kind of I'm not. I wasn't saying that

464
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 5: if you're saying to you, but if you are saying

465
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Speaker 5: that to yourself.

466
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Speaker 4: It wasn't at least my first respect, and I kind

467
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: of maybe you were. I was hearing that what it

468
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 4: was about, and thinking, wow, this sounds very scripted.

469
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Speaker 1: It's time to come clean.

470
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Speaker 3: I might have said that to myself, but I was

471
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 3: really stuck on the circle of buses mm hmm.

472
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 5: Why it was so important, Yeah, the lifeguard to be.

473
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Speaker 3: Brought up, know and and I you know the method

474
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 3: through which that happened, and that this is all coming.

475
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: This entire story is coming from the kinds of questions

476
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: that were at the show, which.

477
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: Also has distracted.

478
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 5: The kinds of questions were He Scusman wanted all the

479
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 5: trivia to be about him personally, his background, his biography,

480
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 5: things and and what he wanted. What he said to

481
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 5: me was find out things I don't even know about

482
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Speaker 5: myself and ask the people about them. That's what I

483
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 5: that's what I want, And I didn't. It's very hard

484
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 5: to find out things about the Scudsman. There's really no

485
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: paper trail. You don't have much of an online footprint.

486
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Speaker 5: I mean, is that fair?

487
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 4: D Well, he's done anything fifth or sixth time doing

488
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 4: the podcast, and we only talk about details about him.

489
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Speaker 4: It's not like a gigantic show, like I see what

490
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 4: you're saying. Okay, it's not like a huge no, but

491
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: people know that.

492
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 5: No, it is a huge show everyone listens to.

493
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Speaker 4: It's accessible.

494
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Speaker 5: Yes, But what I'm saying is that he wanted me

495
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 5: to find things out that no one knew, including people

496
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 5: who listened to this show, including myself. And he said

497
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 5: even me, becauseman said find out things I don't even.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was doing a lot of things to

499
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Speaker 2: throw them off the scent. You know, I was doing

500
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: a lot of things to confuse him. So he would

501
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: know why because because he's trying to he's trying to

502
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: find things out about me, so it would also confuse me.

503
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And what's an example of something that you would

504
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: do to confuse another person? But we're going back to

505
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 4: the buses, So that's why there are so many extra buses.

506
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Speaker 2: You did that to confuse, to confuse my friend, I

507
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: would also, you know, I would just go disappear for

508
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: long periods of time.

509
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Speaker 5: That wasn't unusual, though I didn't even clock that as

510
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 5: being you know what. I I remember one thing you did.

511
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Speaker 5: You got a job for a week working as a plumber,

512
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 5: to confuse me into thinking you were a plumber.

513
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 4: Showed it surprise to hear that this is news to me.

514
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 5: You'll see this is what he did. So then when

515
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 5: he came back and I said, like, oh, I have

516
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 5: this trivia question about you now we can ask on

517
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 5: the show, is that you worked as a plumber, And

518
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 5: you go, I didn't.

519
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: I didn't do that.

520
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 5: I was doing that to throw you off the scent.

521
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 5: And I said, but but if you actually did do it,

522
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 5: then I would. I think it's a fair game to

523
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 5: act like something you.

524
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Speaker 4: Did it was like it was because it's stinky, and

525
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 4: like when you do.

526
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Speaker 5: That throw off the scent.

527
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Speaker 2: Is that was that kind of I was trying to

528
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: get real stinky, and I would just show up to

529
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: people's places and start taking apart their sinks, and take

530
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: it apart their dishwashers.

531
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Speaker 4: Now those are some of the the among the less

532
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Speaker 4: stinky things that a plumber.

533
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Speaker 3: I think the dishwashers are relatively you're only thinking about

534
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Speaker 3: the toilet, then.

535
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Speaker 4: I The toilet was what came to mind, is like

536
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Speaker 4: the stinky thing that a plumber works with.

537
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Speaker 3: Well, if you need a plumber for your dishwasher, right, Yeah, it's.

538
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Speaker 2: Probably stinky, right, but I guess yeah.

539
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: But but it sounds like they didn't need him. He

540
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: just went in there and started.

541
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Speaker 2: I just, yeah, that's found doors that were open, and

542
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: I just sort of went in hard.

543
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Speaker 4: Was that hard?

544
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: Was that hard? Yeah? I would drive around for a

545
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: long time looking for doors.

546
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: Okay that were open.

547
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: People. Hey, people lock their doors. News to me, I

548
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: don't know.

549
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Speaker 4: So you open like a jar? You mean unlocked? You're

550
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: you're trying them?

551
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, unlocked. I was definitely trying something somewhere a jar.

552
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 5: S Gusman has troubles sometimes telling if a door is

553
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Speaker 5: open or not. Like, if you show him a door,

554
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: he's he's about fifty percent, Like it's basically as good

555
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 5: as a random guest to know if it's open.

556
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: What I've been with him, he'll go get a load

557
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: of that door.

558
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: It's perpendicular right now.

559
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: And then he'll walk into it, or he'll he'll slam it,

560
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: or you know, something will happen. But I never have

561
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: been able to track what he's saying, you know, and yeah,

562
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: what he's seeing when he.

563
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Speaker 2: Says that I've had a hard time with doors in

564
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Speaker 2: my life. They've been in my biggest bugaboo.

565
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 5: I would have to say, I think there's bigger ones,

566
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: but it is a big one for sure.

567
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably the biggest.

568
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, doors, the scabs. There's so many things that you

569
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: do that I think that's a problem.

570
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Speaker 2: I'm getting hungry just thinking about skets.

571
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 5: All right. I didn't mean I should bring it up.

572
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

573
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: I this show so gross.

574
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 5: It is gross. It doesn't have to be this gross.

575
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but stinky plumber and eating the scat it's

576
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: just like always so gross. Like I just wanted, you know,

577
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: I really wanted to have a nice show. Oh, I

578
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: really wanted to have a nice show, especially today.

579
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 5: When you kind of barely wanted to do it. It

580
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 5: seemed like, well, I.

581
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: Know what I'm going back to when I get out

582
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Speaker 3: of here, and which is like a mad say what.

583
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 4: You want about a mongoose in the car. At least

584
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: it's not a gross thing. It's like kind of like fanciful,

585
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: like I don't.

586
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: Want to ricky ticky tappy, but it is an animal

587
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 3: in the car.

588
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 4: They're going to the bathroom. I mean there, Okay, so

589
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: you're saying that's gross too, it's getting gross.

590
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's getting gross.

591
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 4: You do you?

592
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: I maybe I can help you with it.

593
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: It was crossing, it was crossing of the Holy Cow.

594
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: There's no shot clock here.

595
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: Get the whole idea ready and then bring it to me.

596
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: Oh well, I was thinking maybe I could help you

597
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: out with this, with your situation, with your mongoose situation.

598
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: Okay, Well how would you Hell, I've.

599
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: Come across them before in my time.

600
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Well okay, so how you would help is just telling

601
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 3: me that you've seen it before. Like, so, do I

602
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: have to hire you before I find out how you go?

603
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: There is a there is a we have to go through.

604
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: It's a lengthy thing, but we could just skip.

605
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: That actually, because man, when I when you say mongos,

606
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 5: are you picturing an animal with antlers?

607
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: Right?

608
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 4: Isn't that? Okay? So he goes it's not like a goose?

609
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 4: Like a goose, like a bird like something? Yeah?

610
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, every animal he pictures animals. Every You want every

611
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: animal to have antlers.

612
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Every animal. I want every animal have antlers. And I'm

613
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: sure this one definitely does, the one that's in your car.

614
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: So what you gotta do is you got to start

615
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: with the antlers, you know what I mean?

616
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Okay, just if you start there without the help.

617
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: If you start there and work your way down, where

618
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: are the antlers on this animal.

619
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Speaker 5: That I haven't seen that antlers are always on the

620
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 5: head of an animal. If they have, I think so,

621
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: Dom says, it's on the head I have.

622
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: What do you do? You want to grab them, right?

623
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, you just want to You want to get

624
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: him a little bit.

625
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: So your way of helping me is to tell me

626
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: to grab the is to start with the this is

627
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: where it starts. Then you will be working your way

628
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: down from there.

629
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna You're gonna weaken his mind by going

630
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: starting and then you're gonna want to get to the

631
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: face Okay, okay, and from there you're gonna I've.

632
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: Really been trying not to like engage too much with

633
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: the face of this snake killing animal.

634
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: This is why you're having an issue with it.

635
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

636
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: Once it's yeah, and once it's mind has been weakened,

637
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: maybe it's that's true. Do you think the hitlers are

638
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: like that, They're like the handle of the mind.

639
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish.

640
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

641
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful not to rev it up like motorcy.

642
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that would be so cool. I kind

643
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: of wish I had some antlers on my mind, rev

644
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: them up. Maybe I'd take that bus out for the

645
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: first time. All right, where were we?

646
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: I haven't known where we are at any place.

647
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: I well, I I feel like I Scusman has left

648
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: me hanging a little bit with this show, with Who

649
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: Wants to Be a Busy and Air I I was

650
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: kind of left holding the bag on a job that

651
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 5: turned out to be clearly against the strike rules against

652
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: like a job that did wind up being more scriptu those.

653
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Those gold opens sound like yeah they.

654
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, and acts and the trivia questions wound up just

655
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: kind of becomes something we ran over the credits.

656
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: Were the contestants. I haven't heard you mentioned them at

657
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: all part of the show.

658
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: They were scus Man played both the host and the contestant.

659
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: He would we would shoot it in a way where

660
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: he would ask questions, and then he told me, he goes,

661
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna alter my appearance. It's gonna be crazy. It's

662
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: gonna like you're not gonna be able to tell it's me,

663
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: And ultimately it was. It was confusing, like it looked

664
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: like we were cutting from the same shot to the

665
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: same shot.

666
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: So does he look the same, he's facing the same direct.

667
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: Eye lines are not wraw right at all. He's looking

668
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: right to left and both of them, and so it

669
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 5: just is like it looks like a mistake, like an

670
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: editing mistake. Like he's asking questions that he knows the

671
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 5: answer to and then he's telling you the answer some

672
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 5: of them.

673
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: I didn't. That's true.

674
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes he would he would stump himself, and those were

675
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: also there was those were interesting moments. But once we

676
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: delivered this episode to the network and once we kind

677
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: of got uh started, you know people we put this

678
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: out there, I uh, I realized I was in pretty

679
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: big trouble.

680
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: I got.

681
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 5: I got a very angry piece of mail from the

682
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 5: w g A.

683
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: His name is not on any of the paperwork.

684
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 5: I guess that's right, I I he signed the show

685
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: over to me, he said, and he said, I want

686
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 5: your name on. This is a big opportunity for you.

687
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: You're going to run this show. And I was like,

688
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 5: Disgusman has never been this gracious to me before, you know,

689
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 5: like it's always, if anything, I have to kind of

690
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: fight for credit in things that we do. So it

691
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 5: was a nice change, which is maybe why I was

692
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: a little blinded to the risks.

693
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: Well, that's why the con works. It's the greed of

694
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: the mark.

695
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: I got very greedy. I got so I got so

696
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: so greedy, And it was a human fallibility. A lot

697
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: of the kind of restaurants where we met up to talk.

698
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: I when I went back to them, they weren't restaurant,

699
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: like it was an empty.

700
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: Discusman was also trying to Yes, it's a story about

701
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: human fallibility. Yes, Like it's like it sounds interesting, like

702
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: that nir inve structure. I mean that's part of what

703
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: makes it like a scripted show about this is only

704
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: that arbitration stuff only really happens once. It's like a

705
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: go project.

706
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 5: So like this was it was ready to go. The

707
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: network was so excited. They said that, uh, it was

708
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: a comp it was a kind of joint like alloyed Netflix,

709
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: like they were gonna air it the same because they

710
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: were just so like, oh my god, we're getting no

711
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 5: content right now, we're getting this strike.

712
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: So they were all in the same room.

713
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got them all. We got them all.

714
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 5: Well, we were pitching them.

715
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: We were out oud of that. I was pretty proud

716
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: that we go.

717
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 5: We were we were going to when we were pitching

718
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 5: this to them and showing it to them. We were

719
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: kind of going in the room where the w GA

720
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 5: was negotiating with them. We were saying, hey, can you

721
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 5: guys pop out real quick and hear this? And so

722
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: because they were all in the same place, and ultimately

723
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: I think that is kind of how the w g

724
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 5: A got a whiff of it and realized that this

725
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 5: was wrong and not what they you know, kind of

726
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: went against the not not just the spirit of the

727
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: strike as I found out, but the letter of the strike,

728
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 5: the literal tensions and goal of the strike.

729
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: And so what is life inside the w g A

730
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: holding cell bin like?

731
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: For you?

732
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: Is uh like Adam conover coming by you know.

733
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 5: He's telling me, yes, he's he's he's not talking to

734
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 5: me directly, but he's putting a camera on himself and

735
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 5: kind of talking near me in a way that is

736
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 5: conveying information to me. Uh that, uh, some stuff I

737
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 5: didn't know, a lot of stuff I did know. And then, uh,

738
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 5: you know, don't watch it, man, No, I know, I don't.

739
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 5: I mean I don't. I can't help it. No, it's

740
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 5: nothing I disagree with. It's too it's not even anything

741
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: I disagree with. It's just a lot. It's just a lot.

742
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 5: And then and then you know it's tough because the

743
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: like they take away all my writing implements. I don't

744
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: I'm not allowed to have a pen. I'm not allowed

745
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 5: to And that's torture.

746
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: It must be so tantalizing to have a hard surface.

747
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: But nothing and and all.

748
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: These thoughts, and I still have ideas for our shows,

749
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: gus Man, I do still have, like the I can't

750
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 5: just turn it off.

751
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: I want to since the desk is behind you, what

752
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: is your your podcasting equipment.

753
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 5: I'm straddling the toilet, you're.

754
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: The toilet.

755
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: They give me podcast equipment, tank facing the tank. Yeah,

756
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: they give me a They give me a camera and

757
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: a microphone because video isn't writing. Talking isn't writing. But

758
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 5: you know, the pen to paper is writing.

759
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 4: And we learned that, didn't we during this trek?

760
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

761
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 5: Ship, Yeah, Hey we can't.

762
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: You're over there.

763
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to break, you know, I'm gonna break.

764
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: Yet, it was just a decision you made based it

765
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 3: sounded like you just kind of it seemed like you

766
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: had totally cut bait here.

767
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: But you're something about what you're hearing today.

768
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: Is maybe just him straddling a toilet. I feel like

769
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: is when I saw you broke up the idea of

770
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 3: him straddling toilets seem to really activate.

771
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: Honestly, maybe just.

772
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 4: Until you can straddle the toilet face, Oh.

773
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: Testify the arbitration.

774
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 5: That's what I would prefer to tell the full story,

775
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 5: because I'm really taking a lot of the heat of

776
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: this and and and I've told them that we worked

777
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 5: on this together, and I've told them these things, and

778
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 5: they say, well, well, it's just you, so you coming

779
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: here and maybe could take a little bit of the

780
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 5: heat off me and telling.

781
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: So the testimony that you want him to make is

782
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: that he came to you and said, I have a

783
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: show I want to do called who Wants to Be

784
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: a Bussy and air It's like who Wants to be

785
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: a Millionaire? But it's all all that answers the questions

786
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 4: you get different bus parts. Then asked you to do

787
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: a bunch of cold opens where he is covered a

788
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: vacoline and wants to fall down. It happens.

789
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: So gradually you hear the description, you understand why. You

790
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: will not really think you were getting involved in this

791
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: Scripert show until finally, you're so deep in rewrites. And

792
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: I actually got a look at the formal complaint registered

793
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: against you, and I was surprised too, because you haven't

794
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: even brought up that in addition to the fact that

795
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: you were writing at all. There's like a sort of

796
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: a plagiarism licensing thing happened where I guess the third

797
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: act post questions would always be wholesale lifted scenes from

798
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: Franklin and Bash, again with Scudban playing both part yeah

799
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: and again.

800
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: The same way yeah, which again was confusing. And and

801
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: Scusman's take on Bash, I think he read too much

802
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 5: into the name the character named Bash like I think

803
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 5: he he played Franklin, I think pretty much pretty straight Yeah, And.

804
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: The footage I saw, I thought it was a serviceable frank.

805
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: But the Bash character you played like kind of a bruiser,

806
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: like like kind of a you know, pinning people up

807
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 5: against the wall or pinning your self up against the wall,

808
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: I guess, which again very was spatially was confusing. And yes,

809
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: so I the Franklin and Bash guys are coming after

810
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 5: me pretty hard as well for for lifting their scenes.

811
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 5: I mean that was in the complaint that Chris Kaiser

812
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: read me when they came and delivered the subpoena and

813
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: he personally dragged me off to the to the cell.

814
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: My arbitration is tomorrow's because, man, So if you're gonna

815
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 5: testify or break me out or anything, it's times.

816
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

817
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: I think i'd go down there talk to Chris Kreider.

818
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: And uh, that's not his name. You gotta get no,

819
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: don't ask to speak to whoever you just said Chris.

820
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 4: Right, it's not Chris Kreider.

821
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 5: It's not Chris Kreider. It's uh a Seiser is.

822
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: But it does.

823
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm thinking of Chris Kreider.

824
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 5: I know that's what you kept saying. Yeah, but the.

825
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: And I I can go down there.

826
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: You felt comfortable talking to Chris Krider.

827
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 3: It feels like Kaiser's. Maybe you're a little more apprehensive

828
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: about that. Yeah.

829
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't like the Chris Kaiser guys. But if it

830
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: was Chris Kreider, maybe we could get him.

831
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know who that is. I don't

832
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: know what he is. Oh yeah, I don't. Yeah, maybe

833
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: he's yeah, maybe.

834
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: Professionally or that's just something he Yeah, well hmmm, I

835
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: see him on TV, so I assume it's professional, but

836
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: he could be just a guy on.

837
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: So you want me to come down here talk about

838
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: Franklin and Bash.

839
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 6: I want you to I could do though, No, that's

840
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: not what I want you to tell would be helpful

841
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 6: because no, for you to just come down and it's

842
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 6: a real acknowledge, it would be basically Zak No Zach

843
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 6: from say by.

844
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 5: The Bell was Mark Paul Go, Yeah, I think Franklin.

845
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: Or you said Zach Woods for a second, briefly, the

846
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 4: misconception that Zach Woods was either Franklin.

847
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: He'd have to be Franklin, was it?

848
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: He?

849
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I get my names wrong. Sometimes I

850
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 2: had a whole pad and paper with me at one point,

851
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: and uh, well hmm, I was using it to write

852
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: down what I had to do for the day, and

853
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: it was hanging on one of the buses, and I

854
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: think it just like fell in the water or something.

855
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: You know, you were carrying it around with you and

856
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 5: it was hanging on one of the buses.

857
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, carrying around me I'd come back from my day's work.

858
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: Had names on it, but it also had what you

859
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: had to do, and also.

860
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes are what he has to do?

861
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, I do names. A lot of the

862
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: plumbing work I was I had to keep track of

863
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: and all the parts that I was buying. But hey,

864
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: hey man, I'm gonna break you out.

865
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do the try to do the fist bumps.

866
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: Completely camera and it it made it. Uh, it made

867
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 5: this a laptop camera without keys because again I'm not

868
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 5: allowed to write, so it's just kind of more of

869
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 5: a clamshell. But uh, you're gonna if you are going

870
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 5: to break me out, if that is what you don't

871
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 5: don't try to send me a cake with something in it.

872
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: I saw another guy here. Uh, they're onto that. They're

873
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: onto that kind of method of breaking people.

874
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: They came up with it, right, like they've.

875
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to come up with a way to

876
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 5: break me out of because especially if.

877
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: Anyone could come up with something that no writer whatever

878
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: it's true devise.

879
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: You gotta figure the guy who created the show prison

880
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: break is in the writer's guilt. It's very he's to

881
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: get around. He'd have to be pretty difficult to get

882
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: around a mine like that. But if someone could come

883
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: up with an entirely new approach to break somebod a

884
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: prison that no one in the writer's skilled would ever

885
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 3: conceive of. I truly believe this Gusman is that person.

886
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 5: I'm disagreed.

887
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna work on it because you know, I don't

888
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: do hearings. Well, you know, I don't like to go

889
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: to stuff like that.

890
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: So do you think that now? What you're saying, what

891
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: you're trying to say is that you're not Your hearing

892
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 5: is a little not what.

893
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: It used to be. My hearing is definitely not what

894
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: it used to be. It's shot well, but I A.

895
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: I got in the water. It led to so many infections.

896
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: For you, I have a lot of water in my

897
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: ears and I can't seem to get rid of it.

898
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: And so, yeah, you saying you're gonna work on it

899
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: the prison break, it's times to me like you're gonna

900
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: come up with something, but not anything right now.

901
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna go back home.

902
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: That's not the process from what I gathered.

903
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna you know,

904
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: sit on it.

905
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: Okay, So experimenting with ideas for how to break down

906
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: coming up with stuff we're not doing that.

907
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: Well, we can maybe toss around a few balls. I mean,

908
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, go back to the well of

909
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: what we just talked about here, you know, okay, scabs

910
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: and uh hockey. I think when I went on the

911
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: hockey tangent there might be something there.

912
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: So it has to be what we're working with is

913
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: is just the things that have been Yes, things that

914
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: have been brought up in this conversation, not as part of.

915
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: That, specifics that resonated with You are just got to

916
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: kind of pinball off each other.

917
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: And hopefully that results in some kind of some kind

918
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: of prison break. But this is how you know, no

919
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: one else would approach it.

920
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: That one else. He hit the nail on the head. Son.

921
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the mongoose maybe plays a role or something.

922
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. I completely forgot about him. That would

923
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: be That would be great.

924
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 4: Some of things that have been discussed that you remember

925
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: that we talked about.

926
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: It's just sort of the scab now the mongoose and

927
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: what if we kind of just got him out of

928
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: the car, just let him loose in the w G

929
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: a run around.

930
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: We can't get getting out of the getting him out,

931
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: but you we had gotten to the face.

932
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: I don't maybe we were kind of like figuring out.

933
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: I think we were just gonna work our way down

934
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: the body.

935
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 4: I just mean they basically said that. Yeah, that's false advertised.

936
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: We went from the antlers to the face, and.

937
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: He said, well, we were gonna do with these things.

938
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna he said, You're gonna get the antlers and

939
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: kind of go and then but like, what would you

940
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 4: do with the face.

941
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta get the face, and you gotta start

942
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: to talk to him and then just you know, kiss

943
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: him a little bit on the face, kiss the mongoose

944
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: on the face, and then you start to kiss his neck.

945
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: What do you say?

946
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 5: So you do work your way down?

947
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Now, you do work your way down. I'm not saying

948
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: you suck him off or anything like that. We're not

949
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: getting there.

950
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, you're not like that.

951
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not like that.

952
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: No one's.

953
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: No one said yeah, no one, no one.

954
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: Uh. This is how you do it.

955
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: And once you get to the belly, he should uh

956
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: sort of relax into your arms, just chuck about the window.

957
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: Okay, scuse me?

958
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question. I heard a rumor

959
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 5: in here. I heard a rumor in in the w

960
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: J prison that you are pitching another game show called

961
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: Who Wants to Marry a busionnaire. Is that correct? Is

962
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 5: that what you're doing that's true, feels pretty disrespectful to

963
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: me because that's an idea that we did discuss.

964
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: You want to be involved with his projects now.

965
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: Yes, Well he's gonna need something to cover the.

966
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I have.

967
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: This sounds a little bit like bringing in the mongoose

968
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: to kill the snake, like you're just gonna have a

969
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 4: new problem.

970
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 5: Well, there's just a process of working with the scus man,

971
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 5: you know, And and it's it's a partner ship that

972
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 5: has been fraught, but it's yielded a lot of positive

973
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: things in my life.

974
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a double edged blade. You always say that, Yeah,

975
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: on both sides.

976
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a blade that has two sides. They're both

977
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: sharp and and they both both sides cut you. But

978
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: at the end of the day you get a pretty

979
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 5: cool sword out of it.

980
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: So they're both bat like.

981
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

982
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: Both.

983
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: But there's two different, totally different bad things that happen.

984
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 5: Yes, and on any given day, one of them.

985
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Act like he's gonna have the same problem.

986
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 4: It's a very similar problem, I mean, much like a

987
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: total problem, much like a double edged blade. It's kind

988
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: of the same problem.

989
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: But the strikesover wouldn't be the same problem.

990
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 4: That's true, except for the fact that I mean, it's

991
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 4: like you brought up, but it's mostly a plagiarism issue.

992
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: I think at some point, I.

993
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: Mean, that element's not going away.

994
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 5: No, yeah, it's gonna be sticky. I think the I

995
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: think at a certain point the kind of just discovery

996
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 5: phase of this hearing of like trying to figure out

997
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: like how this show came to be. I feel like

998
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 5: they kind of got tired of even getting to the

999
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 5: bottom of it. And now what I'm mostly in trouble

1000
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 5: for is the Franklin and Bash stuff and the kind

1001
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 5: of could.

1002
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: They when they say they get they got tired, you

1003
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: could say, like, oh, well that's like that's the goal

1004
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: of going on. Who wants to be a bussy there?

1005
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 5: He's getting tired, getting tired, Yeah, yeah, tired, retired. Yeah,

1006
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 5: that whole area is.

1007
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 4: Just getting tired. I think is fine.

1008
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't think yeah, And am I wrong? None of

1009
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: the buses have tired.

1010
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: Let's get retired. Let's get.

1011
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, or to retire a bus, you know, put the

1012
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: tires back, like put tires on it again. You know,

1013
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 5: we were we've been talking about putting tires on Scusman's

1014
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 5: bus before, but he's pretty against it. He wants to

1015
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 5: try other options.

1016
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so I assume the tires.

1017
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: We've seen it, well, you'll hear from Scusby had a

1018
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: lot of scene. We've seen it. I've seen that before.

1019
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen tire. Let's try to think of other things.

1020
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: That could go.

1021
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: I love the place wheels.

1022
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 4: Someone says that that something that we'll hear a lot

1023
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: from you, and then we do hear it. It's really

1024
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: like blockwork. We just hear it.

1025
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: It feels good, it's satisfying.

1026
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: It's it's the formula that works.

1027
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 5: It can be tough when you're kind of trying to

1028
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 5: write with the Skusman for him to say, I've seen that.

1029
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 5: I've heard that before. I heard that just now when

1030
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 5: you said it, like, that's not new, you already that

1031
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: you already you just pitched me that.

1032
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: I said that that was my idea. Don't say that

1033
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: to me. I don't want to see it ever again.

1034
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: Yes, that's right. Yeah, yeah, but it does challenge you

1035
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 5: to kind of find new like I you know, what

1036
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 5: Skusman always says is like creativity is best when there's

1037
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 5: like restrictions and boundaries, and you're forced to kind of like.

1038
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just go beyond what you even thought was possible,

1039
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: because yes, you're you're really even searching outside the confines

1040
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: of traditional language.

1041
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 5: Why did any of these characters have to be people

1042
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: or animals or any kind of beings that we're familiar with,

1043
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 5: you know, why can't they be something else?

1044
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1045
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: And I'm you know, it's like.

1046
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: Where, uh, you know, what kind of creatures are we talking?

1047
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 5: I mean like kind of like cloud like like clouds

1048
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 5: like almost that clouds look like seeing clouds with antlers

1049
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: is what?

1050
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1051
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: So you saw that cut? Yeah, clouds with antlers kind

1052
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 5: of you know where Scusman would grab the antlers of

1053
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: the cloud and kind of like you know, mind controller, Yeah, yeah,

1054
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 5: like and make the clouds rain.

1055
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: I love. I love to hear this because you know,

1056
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: it's sort of like you know, Bill Belichick, you know,

1057
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: and all the people that have worked with the scus

1058
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: Man and it's sort of like my students.

1059
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, Toman, I didn't see the connection.

1060
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: It's sort of like the coaching tree you know that

1061
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: comes from like Bill Beck, like my writers you know,

1062
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: working working with me.

1063
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 4: I guess wondering what it was that you've heard that

1064
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: made you think of this that we've only been talking

1065
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: about one person.

1066
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: How it's a challenge, you know how, it's a challenge

1067
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 2: for him to work with me, and it's it's obviously

1068
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: made his writing better. I mean looking, you know, look

1069
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: at him, look at him right now.

1070
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't point to my current situation is like

1071
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: proof of success.

1072
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: But well I don't.

1073
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: They don't come for you unless you've had some level

1074
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: of success.

1075
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1076
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 5: That's true, that's true. If we weren't making an impact,

1077
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 5: no one would have no one would have cared, you know.

1078
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: But all right, the idea of who wants to be

1079
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: a bustionnaire is sound, and it resonates with America.

1080
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: But it's an idea that you know, it resonated to

1081
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: an extent that it must have seemed dangerous to some

1082
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: of the powers that be because.

1083
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 5: They lost have Yeah. Yeah, they locked me up and

1084
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 5: they you know, they did in some ways a political business.

1085
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 3: It's not unlike Bill Belichick and his coaching tree.

1086
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's what I think about in

1087
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 5: here every day. I'm like, I am kind of a

1088
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick like figure.

1089
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 4: So you think you will, you would be.

1090
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: I thought I was Bill.

1091
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 4: That's definitely what I thought too, as in tune with

1092
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: what Scusman is thinking compared to you, like Mangenie, Bill O'Brien, Flores, Romeo,

1093
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels. We talked a lot.

1094
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: About that Bill Belichick coaching tree and a lot of

1095
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 2: our writing sessions.

1096
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: Yes yes, and claims that there are two Bill Belichicks,

1097
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 5: that there is not just one, that there are, that

1098
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: there's kind of the one who wins and the one

1099
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: who loses, and that they're two different human beings.

1100
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: Okay, that might be just a misconception about like when

1101
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: you cut away from him then cut back to him,

1102
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: he thinks that's a different person, because that's.

1103
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, they put happy Bill Belichick out there, They put

1104
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 5: sad Bill Belichick out there, like you.

1105
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 4: Thinks is happy and they all have different The.

1106
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 5: One who's winning is kind of happy, although he was

1107
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: a pretty like frownie guy. I guess in general that's okay.

1108
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: I think we need to disparage the facial expressions of

1109
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: a well respected coach in order to make it engaging podcast,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Just not in for like the clickbait. We don't come

1112
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Speaker 4: like Bill Belichick prow and.

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00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 3: Get reggregated by all the blogs and then all of

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00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: a sudden, like we're in these like heated X battles

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00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: on the ex website. That's just like not how we

1116
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 3: like to court engagement. So if you want to do that,

1117
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: go ahead and do it on you know another show,

1118
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Speaker 3: yank Kat Williams.

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Speaker 4: I just want to say, like you.

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Speaker 3: Yank catwi yank cat will yank Cat william to go out.

1121
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: Here and he can do his thing, he can say

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00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 4: his stuff on Uh.

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00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: He's earned that right.

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Speaker 5: That's a hard learned lesson for me is trying to

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Speaker 5: do the things Cat Williams does and getting just just

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Speaker 5: the worst feedback for.

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Speaker 4: People don't like. People don't want that.

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00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't want it.

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Speaker 5: They don't want it. They're they're either offended, they're confused

1130
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Speaker 5: when I call people pimping and stuff and I, you know,

1131
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 5: when I wear the suits I wear and then they

1132
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 5: just don't they don't hasn't been getting a great response.

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Speaker 3: And what's that get beat up by a middle schooler?

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Speaker 4: I get.

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Speaker 5: I get beat up by a middle schooler when I

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00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 5: kind of do those things. People don't receive them in

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Speaker 5: the way that I that I thought they might. But Scusman, Scusman,

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Speaker 5: you you do a pretty good cat.

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Speaker 2: I do pretty good cat. Bye bye.