1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: from figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Welcome the best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: This episode is airing in mid May of twenty twenty six. 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Going to be a bit of a Hodgepodge episode. We're 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: going to be talking date nights, an atlas of obscure facts, 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: some of our favorite random facts. So if nothing else today, 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: you will have something to mention in the. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Break room at work. Did you know? 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: And we will also be addressing a listener question about 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: taking a career pause. 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: But first we have some very I don't know, exciting 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: updates because Laura's book is out in the world a 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: couple weeks as of this airing, but it's hard for 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: me to ask Laura how it's going because to be 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: completely honest. We're recording this just after launch. But Laura, 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: how do you feel about launch? 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's been fun to see people get their copies, 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: take pictures of it, starting to get some reactions in 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: which is great. I think my favorite quote was from 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: somebody on social media that said, if Laura ever starts 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: an official cult, I will be the first one to join. 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: So I was like, well, I'll take it. 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: That is a very interesting perspective, but I do like it. 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: It shows total dedication and the other like humorous reviews 36 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: or anything that you've seen so far, or is a 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: little bit too early for that. 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, my favorite little thing that happened with launch day, 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: my friend Joy gave me this little tiny copy of 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: Big Time. So a lot of listeners know I collect miniatures. 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm somewhat obsessed with miniatures, which Joy knows, and she 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: had looked at the library scene on my shelf and 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: had said mentioned something like, oh, hey, give me a 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: shelf and I'm like sure, whatever, and then she came 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: through with this copy of Big Time that is about 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: an inch tall. 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: So I love it. It's in my miniature scenes. Now. 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Well, I feel like for your birthday or Christmas, You're 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: gonna have to watch out because you might get a 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: whole stack of your tiny books. 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: Whole Vanderkamp stack. That's true. That's true. 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: Else, somebody once gave me chocolates that had my book 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 2: covers on them. 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: That was a wonderful gift as well. 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's always fun for an author to see 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: your book art somewhere unexpected. 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: So a miniature book, a chocolate, it's all good. 58 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: Well are you looking forward to more reviews coming out? 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: I hope. 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: So. I've got a lot of media and things planned 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: over the next few weeks. I mean, what was your 62 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: experience with this? Were you reading reviews at all? 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: I couldn't really help myself. I knew it might not 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: be my favorite activity, but I don't have that many 66 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: opportunities to have put my work into the public to see. 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: And as much as I kind of dreaded the feedback, 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: I thought it might be valuable at the same time. 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: So I did look at reviews and at first, honestly, 70 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: it was a little bit hard, but over time I 71 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: kind of realized, you know what, most of these are positive, 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: which is amazing, and I kind of had to get 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: around the fact that not every single book is for everyone. 74 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: One thing that helped me, and I don't know if 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: you've done this is like you look up a book 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: that you just think is flawless and amazing, and then 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: you see that book even has negative reviews and you go, oh, okay, well, 78 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: if the equivalent of war and Peace can get panned 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: by someone, then probably Best Laid Plans isn't going to 80 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: be everyone's cup of tea as well. 81 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: So Tolstoy needed a better editor. This book is too long. 82 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean, well it's sort of funny 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: because I mean, some critical reviews are thoughtful and that's great. 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: I think some are also just like offended that the 85 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: book was not for them. Personally, I was like, well, 86 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: every book isn't for everyone, and we can't accommodate the 87 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: entire world with every single book. 88 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 89 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: There's a phenomenon of that online that people say, well, 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: why didn't you write about X? 91 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: When you write about why it's like, but I guess 92 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't. 93 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: Writing about X. You're like, but there might be some 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: great books about X, so feel free to feel. 95 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Free go check them out. Yes, exactly, Well, this is 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: life in the public eye. You cannot please everyone, nor 97 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: should you try, because it would make life very uninteresting 98 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: to attempt to do so, and also futile. So the 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: first topic we are talking about today is date nights. 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: This was actually going to be in an earlier episode 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: and we ran out of time. Sarah, what are your 102 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: date nights looking like these days? 103 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, to remind listeners, I did set that as 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: one of my goals for the year, to try to 105 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: aim for two date nights per month, because I had 106 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: realized that this had fallen by the wayside a little 107 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: bit once I didn't have to schedule a babysitter, which 108 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: is the opposite of what one might think. However, it 109 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: does kind of make sense because that babysitter was forced planning, right. 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: So I have started to at the beginning of every month, 111 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: as I do my planning, try to identify at least 112 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: two slots for date nights. As I've talked about, we 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: kind of differ on what we count as a date. 114 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: Josh does not count social events as a date. I 115 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: kind of think they do count. But regardless of the definition, 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: we've been much better about it this year, and I 117 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: do feel like it's been good for our relationship. Sometimes 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 3: we do what we've planned. I would say like eighty 119 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: to ninety percent of the time our plans come to fruition. 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: But I've also kind of embraced looking for serendipitous occasions 121 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: to have a date. I think especially like if a 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 3: date does fall through, I'm like, Okay, well, I'm determined 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: if the conditions are right, let's see if we can 124 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: just make it a last minute thing. And we were 125 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: able to do that on one recent occasion that was 126 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: just like so delightful. Annabel didn't go to Acro because 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: she had a meat coming up, so I realized that 128 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: Friday night, no one was really going out, my husband 129 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: was done with work, and I was like, let's go, 130 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: and we did. 131 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: It was great. 132 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun. And you do you have like a 133 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: place around you that you go frequently? 134 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: Is? 135 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: Are you like a regular somewhere? 136 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: Now? We're trying, I say, Josh leans towards doing different 137 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: things almost every time, but he does see the value 138 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: in like becoming a known person, and I love repetition 139 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: in my life and in this sort of thing. So 140 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: we have kind of come to a compromise where I 141 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: feel like at least one date is going to be 142 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: something different. But the other one, we have this really 143 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: cute local pizza place. Actually you've had their pizza Laura 144 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: in takeout form, but they have a really nice bar 145 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: and a really sweet server that we've had at least twice. 146 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: So I feel like we're on our way. 147 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you get the same waiter, it's like you 148 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: know you're becoming a regular somewhere. Maybe even have your 149 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: table at your certain time. 150 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 151 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: Now we haven't really done the regular thing so much. 152 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 2: We have been trying to do something like a little 153 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: bit different and bigger, maybe like once a month, and 154 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: that's actually happened in the first four months of the 155 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 2: year so far. So in January we went to see 156 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: a Sixers game together. I'm a big fan of live 157 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: sports events as a date night, it's a little bit 158 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: different and exciting. February we did go out to dinner, 159 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: but it was at Longwood Gardens for their Valentine's Day dinner, 160 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: so there was a greenhouse tour along with our dinner, 161 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: so it was a little bit different than the usual 162 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: restaurant kind of thing. In March, we went to Chicago 163 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: together to go to a friend's birthday party. And while 164 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: they are we went to the Art Institute of Chicago 165 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: and that was really cool to tour the museum. 166 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: We like art museums. 167 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: It is the kind of thing that our children do 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: not like, so it's good to do as an adults 169 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: only experience. 170 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: And then in April we went to go see. 171 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: Jerry Seinfeld and he came to Reading, Pennsylvania, which I 172 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 2: just love. I mean, Jerry Seinfeld has absolutely no reason 173 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: to be out doing two shows on a Friday night 174 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: in Reading, Pennsylvania, but he's in. 175 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: It for the love of the game, which is awesome. 176 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is something really gratifying about that. As you 177 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: said that, I'm like, yeah, Taylor Swift probably didn't have 178 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: to do that second part of her tour, but like, 179 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: it's lovely to see someone just so in love with 180 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: their craft killing it out there. Yeah. 181 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, let me do three nights in Philly. Not too, 182 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do three nights in Philly. Yeah, I know, 183 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: if they love their craft and are still at it 184 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: and really enjoying it, which I know he was. He 185 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: was really this is what he loves to do, so 186 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: it's good to see it as a show. I don't 187 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: exactly know what May is going to be. We haven't 188 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: really planned anything, but we are going to my twenty 189 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: fifth reunion, I guess for one night. So if Josh 190 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: doesn't count social events, maybe that doesn't count as a date. 191 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: But we will be there at least one night without kids, 192 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: So maybe. 193 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: I'll have to drive there. And that's like I don't. 194 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Know, because I may already be there, because I might 195 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: go for three nights and then he would only come 196 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: for and then we'd go back or something. 197 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. 198 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. But it's 199 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: good to like have these things, as you were saying, 200 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: like planning them at ahead of time, even if you 201 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: don't need this sitter as much. 202 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: I think if it's just like I like to look 203 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: forward to it. 204 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like a vacation, you get the anticipatory, you 205 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 3: get the experiencing, and you get the remembering. And I 206 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: think as a bonus, when you're doing these kind of 207 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: more involved things, they're going to be like higher stakes 208 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: on the discipatory and the remembering, So probably the whole 209 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: date is just more meaningful. I feel like you guys 210 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: have done a definitely higher concentration of those types of 211 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: things together in the last few months than I remember, 212 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: and I think that's probably the kids getting older and 213 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: your intentionality behind it. 214 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and also just I mean, if we are 215 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: just going to go out to eat, we often will 216 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: go with the kids. Now that this has become as 217 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: we had in a recent dining out episode, it's become 218 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: less of a horrible thing to have children out with 219 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: you at a restaurant. Not horrible, but not relaxing when 220 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: you have little kids, and that is not the case anymore. 221 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: So you know, we've been able to bring them with us, 222 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: and especially the older kids becomes a lot of fun. 223 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: So well, we're going to take a quick ad break 224 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: and then we'll be back with the second part of 225 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: this episode are Atlas of Obscure Facts. 226 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Well, we are back. We have been talking date nights. 227 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: Now we are going to go on to our favorite 228 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: fun facts that if you are looking for anything to 229 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: strike up a conversation. 230 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: Today, that's your workplace. Did you know we have a 231 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: few for you? Sarah? Why did she start? 232 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: So? My first fun fact is that people are taller 233 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: in the morning, and it can vary by how much, 234 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: but can be up to like half an inch. So 235 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: if you're trying to really gain the system and get 236 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: your tallest possible height, then try to be measured when 237 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: you first wake up. Now I don't know the time cadence, 238 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: Like after forty five minutes, have you already lost this benefit? 239 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: Because my guess is that gravity might work really quickly. 240 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: I think gravity is a swift, unforgiving force. 241 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: But yes, but we're definitely all taller when we first 242 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 3: wake up. And then my unofficial fact that goes with 243 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: this one is that the average man is about one 244 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: and a half inches shorter measured than they see the 245 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: bit are. 246 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: And the humorous part of this Sarah is they point 247 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: to their driver's license. 248 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, what my driver's license says? I'm like, yeah, 249 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: usually you just tell the guy what you're heighting. Like 250 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: at least the two states that I have gotten licenses in, 251 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: nobody had a ruler out so yeah. 252 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that is not unlike something like your 253 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: birth date. You don't have to prove your height on 254 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: your license. So yes, that could be a game the 255 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: system if somebody needs to. 256 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: All right, well here's my first Sarah's You're. 257 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Gonna be like height related and miner would be like 258 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: ancient Earth or time related. So there was a period 259 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: in Earth's history during the Late Triassic called the Carnian 260 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: Pluvial event, when it rained for a million years. If 261 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: you look up the Carnian Pluvial event on Wikipedia, it 262 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: will tell you that it was characterized by intense and 263 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: prolonged rainfall. 264 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: So there you go. 265 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: I would like to know what the land like looked 266 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: like at that time, Like was it pretty much just 267 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: always covered it a few feet of water? Were there totally? 268 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: Like were there really high mountains and that's all that 269 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: was above the I mean, we so see this was okay. 270 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: I think this was during the Pangaea time, which if 271 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: you have a giant land mass, a lot has been 272 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: desert in the middle. And this was when the Earth 273 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: was undergoing a shift from this arid climate to a 274 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,239 Speaker 2: wetter climate that then enabled like the rise of the dinosaurs. 275 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: And part of the thing that every so much of 276 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: life had died out in the in Permian extinction going 277 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: into the Triassic, and it said had been this sort 278 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: of dry, deserty, low oxygen environment. So this was the 279 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: coming of the rains after a great many times I 280 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: guess it lasted for a million years. 281 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: You just never knew you were going to learn that 282 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: today when you turned. 283 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: On us both worlds, we're gonna hear about the Carnian 284 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: and Pluvial event. So obscure fact number one for me. 285 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: All right, Sarah, let's your pivot a lot pivotal ready, 286 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. 287 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: Blow your mind. So my kids are into watching like 288 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: the old like I don't know Aughts Nickelodeon shows, including 289 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: I Carly and I was like, this is vaguely familiar. 290 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: And the reason it's familiar is because the set they 291 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: used on I Carly for the school is the same 292 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: as Saved by the Bell. 293 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: Ah, were they just like kept it somewhere? 294 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I bet they did keep it somewhere in some 295 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: old studio building, dusted it off. Nickelodeon's like, we're low budget, 296 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: let's just reuse this. 297 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: It worked really, really. 298 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: Well in the eighties and nineties when Zach Morris were 299 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: in the halls. Let's just do it again. 300 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: I can't believe they still had it. That part blows 301 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: my mind. Like that, We're like, okay, I don't. 302 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: Know how many years elapsed between the end of Saved 303 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: by the Bell and the beginning of I carly, But 304 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: you're right, it was like probably like more than a decade, definitely. 305 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 306 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: Well there you go, I mean, and people say you'll 307 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: never use it again, just throw it out, declutter it. 308 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: Well there you go. Not everything all right. 309 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: My second obscure fact, this one is Bible trivia, because 310 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: my daughter just went through our church confirmation process and 311 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: they all had to do a thirty day spiritual discipline project, 312 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: and so she researched thirty biblical role models and she 313 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: had a goal of doing at least half women, and so, 314 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: as you might imagine, some of this was a bit 315 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: more obscure. 316 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Because of that. 317 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: But one of the people she wrote about, the name 318 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: of the mother of Moses, Miriam, and Aaron is Jochibid. 319 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: Now a lot of people have heard of Moses. If 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: you have any sort of like if you ever learned 321 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: like Hebrew Bible stuff, or if you have read any 322 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: of the Old Testament the stories, you would know Miriam 323 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: and Aaron as well. 324 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: But most people do not. I know the name of Jochibit. 325 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: So let's give honor to a biblical mother of three 326 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: famous children in here as we are near Mother's Day. 327 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: My confession is I've actually had patience with that name, 328 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: and I just thought they like made it up. 329 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: They did not, Sarah, But now I know, Now you know, 330 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: Now you know, and now you can use this obscure fact. 331 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: You could tell them, oh, I know where that name 332 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: comes from. Awesome. 333 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: All right, we're going back to the human body. But no, 334 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: we're not going back to height. Height was a one off. 335 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: We're going to left handedness. And my fact is that 336 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: about ten percent of the population is left handed. That's 337 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: been fairly constant over time, but it's actually more common 338 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: for men to be left handed. So it's just over 339 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: ten percent in men and something like eight point seven 340 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: percent in women. And I'm left handed, so that just 341 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: made me feel a little special. It also said that 342 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: if you have two left handed parents, then the chance 343 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: of having a left handed offspring is twenty five percent. 344 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: But my two left handed parents had two left handed 345 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: female offsprings, so I don't know. I think I have 346 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: a superpower left handed gene that then did not pass 347 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: on to any of my children. 348 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: So they'reascinating. 349 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: So one of my favorite things about the left handedness statistics, 350 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: and I remember reading this years ago as an evidence 351 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: of sort of the misuse of statistics is that there 352 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: were lower percent of older people who were left handed. 353 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: It's like, uh, oh, does something go wrong do people? 354 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: Are they more likely to kill themselves accidentally in accidents 355 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: if they're left handed? No? No, no, it's that they used 356 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: to force children to be right handed back in the day, 357 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Like even if you were naturally dominant on the left side, 358 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: they would force you to write with your right hand, 359 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: and so up until a certain point. Until that changed, 360 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: there weren't people saying they were left handed because they 361 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: hadn't been allowed to be so. 362 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Different issue. Okay, all right, what is your next fact? 363 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Time related? I guess it's more of a dates related. 364 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln were born on the same day, 365 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: and not just the same day of the year, like 366 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: the same day as in February twelfth, eighteen o nine. 367 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: So what about hey, Yeah, and. 368 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: As you'll learn out this learn in a minute, this 369 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: is actually the same day. There's another obscure fact coming 370 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: about places having different days, so we'll get to that 371 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: in a minute. 372 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: All right, Sarah, what's yours? Yours? You actually went geological here. 373 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, I did, But this is my special 374 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: area of interest because it aligns with my phobia, and 375 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: that is that a lightning bolt is five times hotter 376 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: than the surface of the sun. I really don't like lightning. 377 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: I happen to live in. Well, Florida is generally the 378 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: most lightning is state, like the more highest frequency I 379 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: think for square foot in the United States. But that's 380 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: not true every year. And apparently in twenty twenty five, 381 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: when you look at the calendar year, both Oklahoma and 382 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: Texas beat my state out. But less, I get less paranoid. 383 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: I started to look at fatalities, and we did win 384 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: in fatalities. And when I saw the fatalities listed in 385 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, like two of them were in my neighborhood, 386 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: and I actually remember both of those storms. So my 387 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: phobia is going to just continue. 388 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: Yikes, all right, Well, this is why Sarah does not 389 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: want to be out in any lightning storms. And I 390 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: maybe contribute to your not wanting to be in large 391 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: bodies of water either. 392 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. 393 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: Well, if the sun is out, I can't accept. 394 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: The sun is out if there's no chance that a 395 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: lightning bolt will come, except if it's a very I 396 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: don't know there is a lightning bolt out of the blue. Well, no, 397 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: something went terribly awry. 398 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 399 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: So here is another fun date related fact. So, in 400 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: September of seventeen fifty two, Britain and the United States, 401 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: which was part of Britain at the time, skipped eleven days, 402 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: going straight from September two to September fourteen. And the 403 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: reason they did this was to align with the Gregorian 404 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: calendar that was being used in most of Europe at 405 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: the time. What I find funny about this, so they 406 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: had used to say a year was three hundred and 407 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: sixty five days. We all know now with the leap years, 408 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: it's three hundred sixty five point two five roughly, And 409 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: so they were falling behind basically over since the calendar 410 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: had been used kind of in Roman times. They over 411 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 2: the course of centuries and centuries, they had fallen several 412 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: days behind, and it was clearly changing where the seasons 413 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: were falling. So in Pope Gregory the Thirteenth in October 414 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: of fifteen eighty two had ordered the various Catholic countries 415 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: in Europe to move forward ten days, right, so they 416 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: skipped forward actually from Thursday, October fourth, of fifteen eighty 417 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: two to Friday October fifth, fifteenth. I guess that's also 418 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: eleven days. I don't know anyway, they no, I may 419 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: have us more. They had skipped ten days in the middle, 420 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: so October fourth to October fifteenth in fifteen eighty two. 421 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: Now the really crazy thing about this Europe had moved 422 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: forward ten days Britain had not. Now it is absolutely 423 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: possible to go from say Italy to London in seventeen 424 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: forty five, right, like there was transportation between these places. 425 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: People were regularly going back and forth on Europe, and 426 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: yet continental Europe was about ten days ahead of written 427 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy years. 428 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: I feel like this must make reading history and like 429 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: looking at primary texts extremely confusing. 430 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: I think it probably. 431 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: I also made me wonder we can't be exactly point 432 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 3: two five years, like it's it can't be exact. So 433 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: are we gradually getting like slightly behind or slightly ahead 434 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: and are we going to get like a bonus day? 435 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so here's the thing. 436 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: Every hundred years you skip a leap year, only not 437 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: in the year two thousand. It's something like every four Hundredever, 438 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: it's I'm gonna get it wrong here, but it's every 439 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: hundred years you skip it, but every like four hundred 440 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: years you don't, right, so it like gets it slightly 441 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: closer to it. 442 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: It's a little bit off, but it's less off than 443 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: it would be. 444 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: That's less fun than like we get a party day 445 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: like that doesn't. 446 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: Cast every once in a while, we can all just 447 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: celebrate the weirdness of the sun. 448 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: All right, Sarah, your last one. 449 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 3: Should we take a rake and leave this one as 450 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: a teaser? 451 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: Okay, one quick, it's really important, okay, and then we'll 452 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: be back with our last obscure fact. 453 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: All right, we're back with our very last obscure fact, 454 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: and actually last two I one and Laura has one 455 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 3: and mine. Very important here is that if you go 456 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 3: to Japan, you two can purchase a square watermelon. 457 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: But it's expensive. It's expensive, well because it's a delicacy, 458 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: of course. 459 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: Apparently it's actually terrible to eat because the skin gets 460 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: like very thick, so like there's no fruit inside. But 461 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: it is a ornamental thing and it's often like or 462 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't know about often, but it has been given in. 463 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: The past as a gift, so. 464 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: They sell it at novelty stores and you can purchase 465 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: one to give to a friend and then display in 466 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: your home. But when I look at them, I'm like 467 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: kind of schemed out by them, and apparently they're not 468 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: good to eat, but they're. 469 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Really into their like fruit in Japan. 470 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: Did you have there, like really cool fruit. 471 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: Ye, well, they had like strawberries that were done up 472 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: as candy. Like they had a whole story devoted to 473 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: strawberry and various farm toown. It's kind of fascinating, really 474 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 2: sounds fun. Yeah, well, that's not my obscure fact though. 475 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: My obscure fact is that most of Indiana is on 476 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: Eastern Time, but a handful of counties, many of them 477 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: around Chicago, are in Central Time because they are economically 478 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: aligned with Chicago. Also, for a while in Indiana, some 479 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 2: counties switched with daylight saving time and some did not, 480 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: so it was a bit of a patchwork in terms 481 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: of what time it might be at any given point 482 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: in any given geographic location in Indiana. And this was 483 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: actually a plot point in the West Wing once where 484 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: they missed a flight because they didn't know that one 485 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: county in Indiana was in a different time than. 486 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 3: Can you imagine if your kids was on a sports 487 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: team and like you're traveling and then this county in 488 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 3: that county and the practice is on this field and 489 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: it's on this line, and like, did the hour sway 490 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: to do? 491 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Like I can't. This is why most states don't do that. 492 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: But it's true that, like it would be more annoying 493 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: if you are commuting into Chicago every day from a 494 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: county that is right across the border in India and 495 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: you're constantly having to switch your watch. So I mean, 496 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: I understand, like the economic gravitational pull to get back 497 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: to our space and time things of Chicago is big 498 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: around there, so that's why you would be aligned for instance. 499 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: Well that's it for our facts. We hope you enjoyed it. 500 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 3: We're not going to pivot to a fact podcast, but 501 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 3: we just thought it would be fun to share some 502 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: of our favorite little tidbits of life with you all today. 503 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, So today's question is was specific one 504 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: from a listener, but has also come up fairly frequently 505 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: from people that we've heard from over the years. And 506 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: this particular person said, I am pregnant with my second 507 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: child and I. 508 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: Am really burnt out in my tech job. 509 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: My husband just got a fairly sizable promotion, and so 510 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: we have talked about my taking a short break, like 511 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: perhaps two years or so from paid work. However, I'm 512 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: worried that this is going to be a very formative 513 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: two years in the technology industry. I am also worried 514 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: about some of the ramifications of becoming a one income family, 515 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: even if only for a while. What do you think, so, Sarah, 516 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: what do you think? 517 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's right to be a little fearful 518 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 3: of this really big change, especially at the time in 519 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: your life you're making other big changes and you may 520 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 3: not know exactly what's coming for you in terms of 521 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 3: financial demands and what it's going to feel like, et cetera. 522 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 3: I would definitely work on conducting some kind of detailed analysis, 523 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: including long term financial projections if you can. And just 524 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: will point out that there's like a narrative that if 525 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: you stay home it's better for the child because they 526 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: have more of you. And yet the number of opportunities 527 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: that I've had to just get my credit card out 528 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 3: for my kids at this particular juncture in life has 529 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: been like a lot, and there are things that they 530 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: may be really interested in doing outside of the and 531 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: they're older. That cost money, and I've I've never been 532 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: happier to have two incomes, I guess, I would say 533 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 3: than at this particular juncture in life. And so sometimes 534 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: it can be unclear what's going to be of benefit 535 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: now versus later. And then I just think you should 536 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: be careful of sort of the false dichotomy between I 537 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: have to completely opt out of the workforce for a 538 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: couple of years versus I need to stay in this 539 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: terrible job. I mean, there are probably a rainbow of 540 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: other intermediate things that might be considered that may allow 541 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: you the best of both worlds. 542 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, no, I think that's great that Sarah pointed 543 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: out that you may like giving up your income is 544 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: not inherently a great thing for your children. 545 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: That kids need time and money. 546 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: If you are working for pay, you are generally providing both, 547 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: and so we want to be careful about falling into 548 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: this argument of this somehow being better for the kids. 549 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: Would definitely think about middle of the road options too. 550 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: I Mean, the most obvious thing is that you may 551 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 2: be able to work differently at the job you are 552 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: currently in. Right like, you may have become burnt out 553 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 2: because you are an absolute A plus employee, Maybe you 554 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: could try being a B minus employee for a while 555 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: and see how it goes. 556 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: My guess is you actually won't get fired. 557 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: Because your B minus is probably equivalent to a lot 558 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: of other people's A minus whatever. And definitely your bus 559 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 2: is better than the new hire that they're going to 560 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: have to bring in who won't be up to speed 561 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: for at least six to twelve months anyway, So it 562 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: is possible perhaps to coast for a while and just 563 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: let it go at that. 564 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: That would be the most simplest option. 565 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: You could, obviously go for an official part time arrangement 566 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: if your company is open to that. 567 00:26:59,520 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: They might be. 568 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: You can look around, has anyone else done it? You 569 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 2: could bring it up with your manager. Try and take 570 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: an extended maternity leave sometimes that's something you can do. 571 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: You could try out doing that life for six seven 572 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: months whatever they will let you do, especially if you 573 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: add together some vacation time to that. You may decide 574 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: at the end of that that you actually really do 575 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: want to come back to work at least part time, 576 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: because that's the other thing, like, if you're burnt out, 577 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: taking care of two small children is not going to 578 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: be relaxing, like that is not the relaxing thing that 579 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: will allow you to rejuvenate yourself and get back to 580 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: being whole again. Like, it's going to be challenging. It's 581 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: going to be meaningful obviously, but it's also going to 582 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: be exhausting, especially if your husband is needing to work 583 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: longer in this new promotion position that you may be doing. 584 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: And if you can afford less help, Yeah, and you 585 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: cap in a situation where you like you're not or 586 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: can't take a break, Yeah. 587 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: Yep, So you might want to keep that in mind 588 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: as you are going into this, if that is really 589 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: the thing that's going to help you feel less burnt out, 590 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: or maybe it does need to be that you look 591 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: for a different job, like there are a million jobs 592 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: out there in the world, especially if you have skills 593 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 2: in the tech world that are related to all the 594 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: AI stuff that's going on, maybe that would be helpful. 595 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I mean, obviously, if you decide, especially 596 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: at the end of your maternity leave, that yes, absolutely 597 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 2: what I want to do, and which by the way, 598 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: you don't need to make that decision till the end 599 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: of your maternity leave anyway. So first step is negotiate 600 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: for the long leave, then decide. But at the end 601 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: of your leave, if you decide, yeah, this is really 602 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: what I want to do, then awesome, Like that's great 603 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: to like, life is long, And if that's what you 604 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: want to do, to take a couple of years out 605 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: for focusing on childcare during working hours, that's great. But 606 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: you want to go into it with your eyes open 607 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: as opposed to not eyes open. 608 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't follow the narratives, follow the actual concrete like 609 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: details of what it would be like for you. 610 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 611 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Well, With's just one thing that somebody had pointed 612 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: out when we raised this question on our forum. If 613 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: your husband has just started his new job, we don't 614 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: know yet that he's going to love it, so if 615 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: you do quit, he may be slightly more trapped in it, 616 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: and maybe neither of you could wind. 617 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: Up happy at the end of this. 618 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: So we should just make sure that everyone's cool with 619 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 2: that and he's all settled before you make a decision 620 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: as well. 621 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: All right, Sarah, your love of the week, Well, I 622 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: went off of yours, but I'll share mine specifically. So 623 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: I love my Mephisto sandals and I got them on 624 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: sale at Norte drum about a year ago. But to 625 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: me they look like elevated Birkenstocks. They're the Domenica style 626 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: in particular, and I feel like they just they go. 627 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: They like make a casual outfit look more polished, but 628 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: then they will also look fine with address and they're 629 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: incredibly comfortable. So I'm thinking about getting them in another 630 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: color for this season. But they are just like my 631 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: workhorse summer piece right now. 632 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: How about you it? 633 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: Well? I also, yes, have a summer uniform which is 634 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: slightly cropped jeans. I'm wearing a pair right now flats, 635 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: my Sharecks flats and a sleeveless shift type shirt. I'm 636 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: not wearing that because it's still a little cool today, 637 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: but once the summer comes, that's kind of what I 638 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: wear on repeat, which is nice because then I don't 639 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: have to think about it. I love your things in 640 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: life to think about the. 641 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: Better, comfortable, less decisions. 642 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Go for it, go for it. 643 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: Well, this has been best of both worlds. Today, we've 644 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: been talking date nights, how we've been handling those the 645 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: past few months. We listed some of our favorite obscure 646 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: facts in case you're looking for a way to strike 647 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: up a conversation with somebody this morning. Did you know 648 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: that people are generally taller in the morning, Well, now 649 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: you do know, Thank you, Sarah. We've also been talking 650 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: about taking a career pause. We will be back next 651 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: week with more on making work and life fit together. 652 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 653 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 654 00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: and you. 655 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This 656 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join 657 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: us next time for more on making work and life 658 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: work together.