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Speaker 1: My first eight years, I covered the Nuggets and I

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Speaker 1: got mellow and Ai. I mean to see them two

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Speaker 1: There was always a lot more women in the crowd

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Speaker 1: for their games.

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Speaker 2: A welcome back to the o GS.

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Speaker 3: It is once again a Playmaker original presented by DraftKings

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Speaker 2: We got a good one in the building. Man, Yes, brothers,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna educate for a little bit. You're gonna educate

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Speaker 2: for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, we ain't left, but we see se over here,

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Speaker 4: but a love over here killing you feel me.

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Speaker 5: Y'all, Man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: But before you get going though Kirk Gotti Award Winner

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Speaker 3: ESPN Senior NBA Ritter and Escape o G Although I've

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Speaker 3: done some great pieces now my guys.

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Speaker 5: Too, Yeah, you know, might I might have to be

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Speaker 5: on your payroll. We can do. We can. We got money,

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Speaker 5: I tell you that. Great guys keep going to that. Well.

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Speaker 3: Now, we appreciate you doing that stuff, man, But one

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Speaker 3: of the most one of the most most respected sporytellers

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Speaker 3: storytellers in sports today, Man, Mark, we appreciate.

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Speaker 5: You coming on bro th real man, appreciate you. Thank

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Speaker 5: you both of y'all. I love you both.

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing you guys since she was babies, watch

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Speaker 1: you grow and to survive past basketball and do what

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Speaker 1: y'all doing, Like, I hope you guys understand that that

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Speaker 1: ain't easy, even though y'all make it look easy. And

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Speaker 1: I want to give you guys flowers on that because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that fell off or or

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Speaker 1: not involved and couldn't figure out of way. And for

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Speaker 1: a media star and business star and business star like

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Speaker 1: you guys milked the NBA and you guys squeezed it

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Speaker 1: like a sponge and took everything you could out of it.

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Speaker 5: And it's not easy to do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just impressed with both you guys and what

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Speaker 1: you're like, what you guys, the empire that you guys

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Speaker 1: have built. So I'm take a bow for yourself because like,

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Speaker 1: what you guys have done is build a foundation for

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Speaker 1: other NBA players, because you guys were both really good players.

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Speaker 1: But respectfully, you guys weren't Iverson and Lebron. So when

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Speaker 1: you're not the guy, it's harder to carry, it's harder

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Speaker 1: to eat, you know, So you guys. You guys got buffets.

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Speaker 1: You just just love you both. And really, I'm not

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Speaker 1: even gonna say I'm proud. I'm just say I pressed.

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Speaker 1: That means a lot about what you guys are building.

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Speaker 2: That means a lot.

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Speaker 4: And honestly, you know, I'm sure Killer feels the same way.

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Speaker 4: But you know, obviously thankful for the relationship that we have.

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Speaker 4: You know, you've managed to to maintain your authenticity and

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Speaker 4: still have genuine relationships with the players.

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Speaker 5: And owners and different things like that.

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Speaker 4: And oftentimes, as I've gotten on this side, I've seen

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Speaker 4: people compromise those things.

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Speaker 1: A lot and you haven't done that. And I respect

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Speaker 5: Couple more dollars. That's handful people that.

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Speaker 4: When you when you reach out, when Mark spills reach out,

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Speaker 4: we respond. And that's not to everybody. And that's not

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Speaker 4: the case, you know what I'm saying. And that's just

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Speaker 4: the other side of it. Let's talk about the personal

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Speaker 4: side of it, and we don't have to get into it,

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Speaker 4: but just the mentorship and the personal conversation that we've

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Speaker 4: had that has nothing to do with basketball or or

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that, and I appreciate you taking It's always

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Speaker 4: gonna be. Yeah, man, I appreciate that. I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: taking the time. Brother, so your flowers.

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Speaker 5: I work with dudes. I'm not gonna say no day

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Speaker 5: that they just like show up.

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Speaker 1: I played an NBA. I'm gonna just talk this dude.

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Speaker 1: I come in to talk to the producers. He already

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Speaker 1: in there. Let's cut this tape here. I need these statistics.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he doing it just like he did

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Speaker 1: with every time, every all these guys. I ain't saying

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Speaker 1: You gotta take. He's gonna let you know about it.

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Speaker 5: He just going.

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Speaker 1: He ain't freestyle research because your name's on it. You

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Speaker 5: I watch you work. It's fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Well listen, man, Like we talk about the media side,

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Speaker 3: But talk about some of the stuff growing up.

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Speaker 2: For you because you you were a Hooper too and

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Speaker 3: Talk about growing up how basketball changed that or how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I grew up in Santase, California, where all

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Speaker 1: But around fifth grade, like I started getting into basketball

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Speaker 1: Playboy team. Like I didn't get to see that Playboy

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have been remember that, man, I'm

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Speaker 5: But his name was Ricky Berry.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Smith played with him with the Sacramento Kings, and

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Rick Berry, It's Ricky Barry. He was a ball

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Speaker 1: boy from Magic Johnson at Michigan State. His dad, Bill Barry,

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Speaker 1: Reggie miller with a handle. Damn so he was cold

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Speaker 2: Him and this this is when you're at summer.

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Speaker 5: Camp in the summer, camp, LIKE i was, like, oh

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Speaker 1: Him and he had this thing though where he said

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Speaker 1: SO i didn't care WHAT i did the rest of that.

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Speaker 5: IT i just took off running to all the. Campers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and then after that he like liked me and

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Speaker 1: and Like Ricky berry like walked on walk on water to.

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Speaker 1: Wow And SO i ended up wearing thirty four because of,

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Speaker 1: Him and people THOUGHT i wore because Of.

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Speaker 5: Barkley KNOW i wore because Of Ricky.

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Speaker 1: Berry but he made The All rookie team WHEN i

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Speaker 1: he made The All rookie. Team he ate eight threes

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah AND i think he was like basically going

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Speaker 1: and then, NO i was At i'm fast forwarding BECAUSE

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Speaker 1: i WANTED i went to the plump camp when a little, BIT.

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Speaker 5: I was one of the first pump. Camps we were.

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Speaker 1: Outside and then me And Monty. Buckley do you Remember Monty?

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Speaker 1: Buckley he played a. Cow they brought us because he

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Speaker 1: was From. Sacramento they brought us into a room just

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Speaker 5: And me And money, like what did we? Do did

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Speaker 1: Trouble and they're, like, no we just wanted to tell

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Speaker 5: Yours But Ricky berry committed. Suicide oh, MAN i don't

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Speaker 5: know if you guys know this. Story, no, no, please

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Speaker 5: we didn't know this. Story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so he only played one season in THE, nba,

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Speaker 1: like and he committed suicide like, this it is probably

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Speaker 1: worthy of a documentary expect like. That. Wow So i'm

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Speaker 1: like going into my like senior year of high. School

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Speaker 1: this is my, guy this is my idol from sixth.

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Speaker 1: of information. Later what was the story behind? IT i,

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Speaker 1: read about. It, yeah it was so he wrote about.

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Speaker 2: It what platform was you read about?

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Speaker 5: Scape? No HE.

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Speaker 1: I was privy to a letter and he was strange

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Speaker 5: Was he still. Has i'm, Like i'm still talking about him.

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Speaker 5: Now this happened in eighty nine in His flowers To.

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Speaker 1: Day, yeah bury Man Berry, like if he hadn't gotten

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Speaker 1: we didn't have a. Hoop San jose wasn't really like

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Speaker 1: shot sixty five percent my last year for a reason Because, Johnson, yeah,

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Speaker 5: In the sixth.

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Speaker 1: Here And i'm, Like i'm playing and my dad taught

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Speaker 5: Wrest your.

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Speaker 4: Sixth grader shooting. Basketball so this is this let me

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Speaker 5: Man he didn't say. Anything he got.

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Speaker 1: with a backboard And i'm getting choked up thinking about, it,

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Speaker 5: Like you got a place to play, now?

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Speaker 2: Son how great is?

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Speaker 1: That after, that like basketball just took off for Me

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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i wasn't no kid WHO i always had to

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Speaker 5: NIGHT i was. GOOD U.

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Speaker 3: D this is OUR mlb segment presented By. DraftKings we're

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Speaker 5: Bad so, Yeah i'm still riding with The. Marlins why. WOULDN'T.

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Speaker 5: I i, MEAN i got the hat.

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Speaker 5: East And i'm taking The miami Manins.

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Speaker 3: Dogs there's no question about. It If Miami, Marlins i'm

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Speaker 4: Know at this point journalism, writing none of this is

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Speaker 1: yeah BECAUSE I i was in love with, sports like all,

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Speaker 1: BUT i asked my my dad for sports Uh illustrated

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Speaker 1: Up you, know every kid has THESE nba, dreams BUT

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Speaker 1: Didn't but he changed my life Because i'm sitting there

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Speaker 5: Y'all LIKE i was like really, excited.

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Speaker 1: if you can combine what you love most in life

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Speaker 1: job you're happy with every. Day incredible, Advice pretty. Good

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Speaker 5: Doubt that's. Wild so why not be a sports?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, well SO i played two years at the

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Speaker 1: junior college Called Foothill college and then where's that located

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Speaker 1: At Southeast, Hills, california down the street From Stanford. University

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Speaker 1: so my grades weren't the greatest in high.

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Speaker 5: SCHOOL i had a two point two G P a bro.

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Speaker 1: down because of my. Grades BUT i was a product

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00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: of my environment where my school was in east Side San.

437
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: Jose when we first, started they were telling us about doing,

438
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: trades like the career lady was talking about you you

439
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: can be in the, service you can fix, cars you

440
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: can bending In they had shot.

441
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 5: Hold the hell, out.

442
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: Y'all nobody LIKE i was, like as long AS i

443
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: get all c's and get A, mpe i'll be. ELIGIBLE

444
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: i was thinking about WHAT i need to do to be.

445
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: ELIGIBLE i know that feeling right when he was at.

446
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: Home don't, listen but that, like what DO i need

447
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: TO i just needed two point, oh, okay as long

448
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: AS i got over two point, oh AND i didn't

449
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: know that it would. Hurt SO i went to junior

450
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: college route just had an okay junior college. CAREER i

451
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: was actually supposed to play At Tuskegee. Institute turned down

452
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: a couple other scholarships to play, there and then the

453
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: coach got. Fired so the coach At tuskegee called the

454
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: coach At university Of district Of, columbia which is a

455
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: SMALL hbcu in D. C not a lot of funding.

456
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: THERE i was gonna walk on In Santa clair and

457
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: play with Nash. OH i was already. IN i knew

458
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: the coach try to work my way into getting a scholarship.

459
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: There my mom goes on a business trip TO dc

460
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: and she comes back and my cousin AND i played

461
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: in junior college. Together my Cousin Hansen, patterson and my mom,

462
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: says looks at. HIM i talked to your. Mother i'm your.

463
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Mother here's two scholarships to The university OF. Dc there full.

464
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Scholarships you'll sign, them, Oh steve N.

465
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 5: SO i signed.

466
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: It AND i knew something was gonna be crazy WHEN

467
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: i landed in D c and the coach took us

468
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: To popeyes and get lunched With Chocolate city and he

469
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: said he couldn't pay for our lunch because it could

470
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: be AN ncaa. VIOLECTION i, said, oh this is gonna Be. Popeyes.

471
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: Bro i'm, like come, on ain't nobody watching? Us nobody

472
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: almost back to the airport right. There and, uh the

473
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 1: experience wasn't the. Best the journalism program was. Bad our

474
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: uniforms gonna show up to mid. Season we lost seven

475
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: players because the grades and. Injuries our coach was messing

476
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: with our. Scorekeeper cheerleaders quit halfway through the season because

477
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: he said they looked like ugly. Bitches like it was like,

478
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: crazy man like. Uniforms, yeah and we played Against HBCUs

479
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: so you know they killed. Us and we played Against

480
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: carolina said, TRUE i REMEMBER i had this nice. Dunk

481
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: Grant hill was at the game And Andrew LANG i

482
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: remember that there at the. Game SO i Told grant about. That,

483
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: yeah like he was at the. GAME i this nice,

484
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: dunk And grand, goes oh you remember your? Dunks just

485
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: crushed me, Man so obviously Like i'm not going to THE.

486
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: Nba you know What i'm, Saying oh you remember you're? Dunk,

487
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 5: yeah like you remember your And so.

488
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: They were only offering two of my classes going into

489
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: my senior. Year AND i played With Amadu fall who

490
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: now runs The Basketball Africa. League we were teammates and

491
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: he broke his wrist so he didn't play most. Season

492
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: so they were only offering two of my classes going

493
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: to my senior.

494
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 5: YEAR i was going to.

495
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: Take classes the other three. CLASSES i needed an hour

496
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred. Dollars they refused to pay for.

497
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 5: What school is?

498
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: It AND i was starting this school is still out? Here,

499
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah university Of district Of columbia doing a little. Better

500
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: AND i HAD i had thirty two yea last. Game

501
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: i'm like finally cooking and. Everything i'm, like BRO i

502
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: just at thirty, two were not in tune with playing

503
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: QUESTION i.

504
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: Left new coach came. In he was trying to change.

505
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: It SO i got offered a scholars scholarship At Sack

506
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: state uh An ai.

507
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 5: A school Called Biola Christian.

508
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: School they said we couldn't fool with girls, there like,

509
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: COACH i just that was.

510
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: IT i just figured that, COACH i. Can't SO i just,

511
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: LIKE i don't think that's gonna.

512
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: Work coach Then pacific was, interested but my high school

513
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: coach convinced me to go talk to Sanes. STATE i

514
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: grew up In San. JOSE i love Sans A. STATE

515
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: i still Love Ricky. BERRY i always Loved Ricky. Berry

516
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: his numbers retired played there after. Me BUT i was,

517
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: like ain't nobody want to wear Sands a jersey more than?

518
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: Me so and my dad had put a Sanes A

519
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: state thing on the back of my.

520
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 5: Car so he won.

521
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: Me he missed, me wanted me to come, back SO

522
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: i went there as a preferred walk.

523
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: On you don't have to try.

524
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: Out BUT i wrote a story about the lack of

525
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: black coaches in college basketball.

526
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 5: During my red shirt. Year Nolan, Richardson John, Cheney.

527
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: John, thompson we're talking, great, great not a game because

528
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: of the lack of black. Coaches AND i wrote a

529
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: story basically admonishing, them like why are you talking about?

530
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 5: It do?

531
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: It what are you waiting on this your Fresh, Well

532
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: i'm like really like my senior and senior like my

533
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: fourth year in. COLLEGE i ain't a kid no. More

534
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: i'm twenty, one, Right SO i write this, story AND i,

535
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: said you know, what.

536
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: Every black college basketball player.

537
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: In the country this ninety three to ninety four season

538
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: should set out a game to protest to like black.

539
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: Coaches so when assistant coaches brought me, in he was

540
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: the only one that Was he was half, black half white.

541
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: Guy and he's like he brought me in to talk

542
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: about the. Story And i'm, like, yeah, coach did you like?

543
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: It he's, like, no, Coach i'll say the man's Name

544
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: Stam morrison is the head, coach older, white white, dude

545
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: and he's really smart.

546
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 5: Guy but you, know older white.

547
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Guy, yeah and he Coach. Morrison don't like the? Story

548
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: or where's Coach? Morrison are you said?

549
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: THAT i love? It i'll talk to him about. It,

550
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: well he wanted me to talk to you about.

551
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: It AND i was, like well you, black, Right he's like,

552
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: YEAH i, said don't you want to be a head

553
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: coach one? Day you're an Assistant, well, Yeah i'm trying

554
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: to help you. Out, well you, know Coach morrison said

555
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: he didn't like the, story and you, know we don't

556
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: need you to be writing stories like. That that's not

557
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: representative of our. Program before we keep going.

558
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: Real quick question like what kind of at that? Time

559
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: what kind of platform was that story out? On that

560
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: people in the school paper for the paper to the school.

561
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Paper But Rod, baker who worked for in THE nba for,

562
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: years it's a scout, now he was coaching you See.

563
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: Irvine he actually found me and after one of the

564
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: GAMES i was red shirting and asked me about the,

565
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: story like, wow like that so you saw and so

566
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: they told me that that what you wrote is not

567
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: indicative of our.

568
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: Program but the lack of black coaches like you guys

569
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 5: okay with?

570
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: That like that's a a coach live at, Home Like

571
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: i'm twenty one, now SO i ain't this little kid

572
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: no more. RIGHT i got two pairs of shoes and

573
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: war one on them. Out i'm eating at my mama.

574
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: House i'm watching game film for. GAMES i ain't playing.

575
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: It when you need me to turn in my, Grades

576
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: i'm the first one to turn in my. Grades you

577
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: got me going to study hall When i'm a, senior

578
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: Like i'm doing everything y'all asked me to, do but

579
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: this is the one Thing i'm not going to. Compromise

580
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: and so after THAT i never even talked To morrison about,

581
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: it but he started calling Me Marcus arelius AND i

582
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: could just see the writing on the, wall. Man and

583
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: so that SUMMER i interned The Grand, rappings actually had knee,

584
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: surgery came back and first, meeting, oh walk every walk,

585
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: on EVEN i preferred Walk on's got to try. Out

586
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: SO i had to try out for a TEAM i already,

587
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: made and they brought me in a tryout the DAY

588
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: i got cleared to just start working, out which like,

589
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: back you, know like thinking about it now kind of

590
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: like SO i was like on one leg trying out

591
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: for a TEAM i already, made and like my mom's,

592
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: Like i'm playing for my mom's. Life it's really cruel

593
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: NOW i think about it and still play. Well next,

594
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: day we're at an event and one of the guys

595
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: found out he made. It it's only supposed to be

596
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: one walk, On so why AM i this event if

597
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: he didn't gain the spot to somebody. Else So i'm,

598
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: LIKE i walked up To Coach, MORRISON i, Said, coach

599
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: you told this. Man he made the. Team you, said

600
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: there's one. Spot what AM i doing? Here it's, like, Well,

601
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: mark you know your, need it's not. GOOD i think

602
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: it's better that you're not playing anymore anymore, forever like

603
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: so that you should just quit right. Now you, know

604
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: he like basically told me it's better for me not

605
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: to because of my, need which is a DECISION i should.

606
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: Make he felt like he could tell you.

607
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: That, yeah but it WAS i knew what it. Was

608
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: it was a way to kick me off, too because

609
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: of what he felt about it about that. Article AND

610
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: i just, MAN i REMEMBER i shook the man's, hand

611
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: looking directly in the, ash walked, out went my, car

612
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: cried for forty five. Minutes college basketball career is, over

613
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: LIKE i tell kids, now like you don't, know like

614
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: when your last game is. Coming, NOPE a lot of

615
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: times most people don't. Know my last game was that

616
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: thirty two point games AND i didn't even know that

617
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: was my last. GAME i wanted to like where Sands

618
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: a stayed With Pride man AND i got kicked off

619
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: because of a. Story fast forward years, later you, KNOW

620
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: i make The hall Of Fame Nate Smith's Memorial Basketball

621
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: hall of fame or there's not no more but sands

622
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: the state years, later because of my journalism, career they

623
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: want me to be involved with the. School they want

624
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: me to be involved with the basketball. Program now at

625
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: FIRST i was bitter and angry and stuff like. That

626
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: but that, man ain't there no. More, okay this is

627
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: a new. Group they want to celebrate What i'm. Doing

628
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: they want me to be a part of the basketball

629
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: program and do color ON. Tv AND i hadn't had

630
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: a chance to do. Color it was like my first,

631
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: chance SO i did. It started doing it for a

632
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: couple of. Years make The hall Of, fame and during

633
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: the timeout of one of the, games they put it

634
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: on the big. Screen this is the ARENA i was

635
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: supposed to play. It i'm doing color in the arena

636
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: of the Games i'm supposed to play and they.

637
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 5: Put on the big.

638
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Screen we like to Congratulate Mark spears for making The

639
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Nace Math hall Of.

640
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 5: Fame AND i got to stand.

641
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: In oh, Wow so the PLACE i didn't get to play.

642
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 5: Still end up getting a standards.

643
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Story came out Circle, yeah and the fact that you you,

644
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: know like you didn't, notice but you standing up for

645
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: what you believe and actually kind of cost you your

646
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: last you be a basketball your last season that you

647
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: could have possibly. Had, yeah you didn't even see that,

648
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: coming but you knew that was that was something you

649
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: weren't really to. Compromise, no that's but then my first,

650
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: job this is how like crazy things. Are i'm Covering.

651
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: NORMAN i got a job Covering arkansas's football and basketball

652
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: team for The Tulsa Faith making like nineteen thousand or

653
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: four at, TAXES i was.

654
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: Broke that might buy you two houses in the con At,

655
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 4: arkansas you might get two houses.

656
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 5: IN i was you, know you you poor when you.

657
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: You're, like all, Right i'm gonna get my knowledge, money

658
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna help me, out.

659
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 5: Like the drives going up and.

660
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: Back, yeah BUT i go see go to the first

661
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: day of basketball PRACTICE i, covered and It's nolan richardson,

662
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: there and it was like this is the GUY i, wrote,

663
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: man and Now i'm covering them crazy and Coach. MAN

664
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: i love. Coach he's one of the most incredible PEOPLE

665
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: i met in my. Life i'm sure you got to

666
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: Met Coach. Richard, yes doesn't get enough credit for what he's,

667
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: done but that was just incredible to. Me LIKE i,

668
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: wrote about, him got a, Man i'm monaged for. It

669
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: and in my first, job he's the first basketball COACH i.

670
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: Covered that's.

671
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: CRAZY i mean we and for the young kids at,

672
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: home because we obviously played Against, arkansas we know the.

673
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: Reputation can you just tell me what The arkansas practice

674
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 4: was like the forty eight minutes a hell or whatever that.

675
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: Was can you just tell me what a practice was?

676
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Like Watching nolan in his element and track me straight up.

677
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: TRACK i used to track like all the. Time they

678
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: Would they would, like think about it's called forty minutes

679
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: and it's a. Hell you go on to Bud wall

680
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: And arena like you guys played, there Ye like that's

681
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: like AN nba arena and they do this big so,

682
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: yeah And i'm an l S u. Guy Now i'm,

683
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: sorry but that was you guys know that was, probably, yes,

684
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: man probably one of the toughest places to.

685
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 5: Play. Hell, yeah it was fear when you walk Those

686
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: you felt fear when you walked.

687
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 2: Back coaches, stiff, yeah, yes and they were, Nice, yo john.

688
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 5: They Had Joe johnson said they Had joe and you

689
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: Saw nolan richardson.

690
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: Stands so you're already like coaches there AND i don't

691
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: care what they. Say coach used to manipulate the rest

692
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: to sit there and watch, it and he would look

693
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: at him and, Like i'm, SORRY i can, said oh, yeah,

694
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: yeah can.

695
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 5: Change. Yeah But coach is one of the greatest coaches.

696
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Ever and if you played against, them you better be in,

697
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: shape your hand will better be, ready your head had

698
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: better be on a, swivel and that shot clock is

699
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: going to go faster than it ever when shout out

700
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: To Coach, riches you, know he was, legendary, legend.

701
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 3: Legend so talk about through the process of, everything obviously

702
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: getting to where you're at now you've covered and seen,

703
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: everything but.

704
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: To win all the, elites, yeah all of.

705
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: It And i'm not actually to pick, one But i'm

706
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: actually to pick one or on a handful like most

707
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: intriguing people through the process that you've seen in storytelling,

708
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: wise not just being the elite, athletes but storytelling wise as.

709
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: WELL i got blessed to get time with the first

710
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: black player IN nba, History Earl. LLOYD i met him

711
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: at A National Association Black journaline convention in like two

712
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: thousand and, two AND i was, like Mister, Lloyd i'd

713
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: love to do a story on you come To, Tennessee,

714
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: son so what to like crossfield and to see zero

715
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: point two percent? Black AND i think the zero point

716
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: two was him and his. Wife There's confederate flags, everywhere little.

717
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 5: Black jockeys on the.

718
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Laws BUT i was like that TIME i got with him,

719
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: interview When i'm at The Cracker Barrow cracker Bar i'll

720
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: never forget that. Man this is LIKE nba. History this

721
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: is the first black player IN nba, history AND i

722
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: got time with.

723
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 5: Him it's. Crazy so he passed away about ten years, ago.

724
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: But to say THAT i got to spend time with

725
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: that man always means a lot to. Me started covering

726
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: THE nba in ninety, nine So mellow was the first

727
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: GUY i got to. Cover SO i saw My mellow

728
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: had the corn, rolls the. Braids and he probably hates

729
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: me telling the. Story but when he visited The, nuggets

730
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: like the, POST i was at The Denver. Post mellow

731
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: came from. Nothing. Man there used to be like eight

732
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: of them in a two bedroom. Apartment they put their

733
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: money together and get McDonald's and all share. It so

734
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: when he visited The, nuggets they took him to.

735
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 5: This high end.

736
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: STEAKHOUSE i guess he had never been to, one and

737
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: he put ketchup on the. Steak he's from where he's.

738
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: From, LISTEN i. AIN'T i had to learn proa way.

739
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 4: TOO i asked the steak sauce in the restaurant one.

740
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 4: Time they told, me if it's a good, steak you

741
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: don't need steak. Sauce, okay bring.

742
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: That seven circles one talking About.

743
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: OKAY i understand, that but fifty seven it you don't

744
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: NEED i, do, yeah like, yeah but if it's a good,

745
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: steak you don't need steak. Sauce, WELL i don't know

746
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: if it's good or, not BUT i KNOW i won't

747
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: bring out here MAN a one and high fifty seven is.

748
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 5: Good that's WHAT i. THOUGHT i got it to a state.

749
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 5: Restaurant they told, me, well if it's a good, steak

750
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: you don't need no. Sauce, well BECAUSE i want some.

751
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: Sauce even even though because we all had to, learn

752
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: LIKE i learned a lot from being around the, cronkies

753
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: got to go walk in door was the money, that oh,

754
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: yeah kind of like raised me up. Level but you

755
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: you take me to the best steakhouse there there just

756
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: happen to be.

757
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 5: Some a one sitting And i'm paying for WHAT i.

758
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 4: Want i'm, like it's, There i'm gonna use. IT i

759
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: didn't know you were supposed to have a rare medium.

760
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 4: Rare at FIRST i. THOUGHT i was, like you want

761
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: to stay well? DONE i want to THINKING i had

762
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: to learn all that. Too, yeah that's just part of the.

763
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: Journey BUT i had my first eight. YEARS i covered

764
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: The nuggets AND i Got mellow And. AI i mean

765
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: to see them two play, together, man that's never like

766
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: really talked.

767
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 5: About it was like traveling with a rock.

768
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: Band there was always a lot more women in the

769
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: crowd for their. Games like think about, this The Powder

770
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Blue jerseys was sick.

771
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 5: And a lot of people forget.

772
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: That mellow had that stupid seventeen, game Sorry Commissioner stern

773
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: for a punching And Marty collins he got seventeen. Games

774
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: during that suspension is When irisly got traded, there so

775
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: they didn't get to play with each other for a

776
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: month because of that. Suspension but watching those two play

777
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: together was. Incredible SO i got to see that And

778
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: i'll never forget, That and get got to See chuck

779
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: And lorin And mellow who actually had a. Rival we

780
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Were lebron and the minute in the beginning see him.

781
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: Grow so they didn't play they only they didn't play

782
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: many games.

783
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: Together THEN i don't there's no thart of.

784
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: It in a couple of, seasons a couple, seasons and

785
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: then they traded him To.

786
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: Detroit, yeah but they loved each. Other they had a

787
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: lot of respect for each. Other chuck was starting to

788
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: be on, there like decline a little, bit but he.

789
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 5: Was he was so. Good BUT i got to cover,

790
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 5: him SO i was, LIKE i loved.

791
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: It so at that, time you're covering and talking.

792
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: Basketball when does the transition happen when you start really

793
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: doing authentic stories not just basketball beca not unless you're

794
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: real passion can tell by just listening to you right.

795
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: Now it's cool Covering Carmelo chucks basketball.

796
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: Games the Game changer was going to The Boston globe

797
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: in two thousand and, seven AND i covered The Big

798
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: three when they showed.

799
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: Up and So i'm covering.

800
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: The First Big.

801
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Three, yeah well the second if you call.

802
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 5: That's what did you covering when they checked? Out when

803
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: you all checked them? Out, yeah, okay we can move.

804
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 5: On ASK i. WAS i was there for two years.

805
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: WHEN KG i had an interview set up WHEN kg

806
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: got traded there AND i was, LIKE i got to

807
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: get this, job and it WAS i Remember Rick buker telling,

808
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: me you're doing really well covering The nuggets because nobody's reading.

809
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: You he, said but if you get, this you get this,

810
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: job people are gonna pay attention to what you're.

811
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 5: Doing SO i got that. Job covered them.

812
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Dudes we went to Like It lee In london for

813
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: training camp And i'm, Like, oh they're gonna win.

814
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: It you could, tell you can tell?

815
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Them, yeah, YEAH i could. TELL i could tell they're

816
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: gonna be. Special AND i think the best thing that was?

817
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 5: Special what what did you see that made you say?

818
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 5: That they were?

819
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: All they all bought in the. Sacrifice AND i think

820
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: it started With doc And. Kevin like If kevin wanted

821
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: two when he was in his, prime he could average thirty,

822
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: easy but.

823
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 5: He he was, like what do we need to do to?

824
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: ONE i? WIN i haven't won. Anything it's the best

825
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: Team i'm playing. On they got great players around, them

826
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: even at the end of the, season and In Sam

827
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: causel AND Pj.

828
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 5: BROWN Pj brown was huge shout out.

829
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah and they had a Young rondo AND kg had

830
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: confidence instilled confidence In rondo because before then he didn't

831
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: even really play. Much but When kevin, said anything is

832
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: possible if you, Look i'm standing behind. Him so that

833
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: that job changed my. Career i'll die in the hill

834
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: that If Kevin garnett doesn't blew out his knee that next,

835
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: year that they would have had a dynasty. There they

836
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: were really, good BUT i ended up getting my FIRST

837
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: nba job With Yahoo. Sports woes was there he was

838
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: In New. YORK i actually wanted to move To. TORONTO

839
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: i wanted to live in a different. Countries i'm just

840
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: a different cat like THAT i. WANT i LIKE i

841
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: knew me And massa were good. Friends i'm, LIKE i

842
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: wanna live in covering THE nba From, canada and they wouldn't.

843
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 5: Let me do.

844
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: It so they SAID i had to move Out, west

845
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: AND i moved back home to The bay and The

846
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: warriors had a rookie named Step, curry your tach, man

847
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: SO i got to see bad.

848
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 5: Ankle. Steph isn't that?

849
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Crazy like people people understand Like steph Was like When

850
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: steph got his first like major deal Second, country everyone

851
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: thought they overpaid his assen remember, That they're.

852
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: Like that's why everybody like yelling At nico for The

853
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: Nike steph wasn't that he wasn't Even All.

854
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: Star, man, listen and AND i mean like when he got, That,

855
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: yeah when he got, that you, know like it was

856
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: like seventy. MINUTES i can't remember what they thought they overpaid, Him,

857
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 3: yeah and it was like, yes, yeah, Yeah Like i'm, like.

858
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: And The warriors fans that they were, HONEST i bet

859
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: you they would have been more comfortable with them trading

860
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: him Than.

861
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 5: Monte at the. Time you're probably right because.

862
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: They were really upset about The warriors were such a

863
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: down trodden franchise at that time that they were more

864
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: in love with somebody that could put up thirty the winning. Game,

865
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: yeah it just never. Won they were awful, Forever, yes,

866
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: forever except for the last ten.

867
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 5: Years it's one of the most awful franchises in. Sports.

868
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 4: Right, No i'm just run obviously WITH bd and those, guys, right,

869
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: like you can't think of much and THAT.

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00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: I love all these Former warriors.

871
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: Dudes but the fact that so much was made about

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00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: RUN tmc playing two seasons, together and so much was made, about,

873
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: respectfully we believe team that went to the same a

874
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: round like that shows you how bad they. Were but

875
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: The curry influence when he got cooking and got going

876
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: With clay And draymond and a good team around, it

877
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: he had an effect on The. Bay growing up in The,

878
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: BAY i Saw Montana, Rice Ricky, Henderson Barry, bonds LIKE

879
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: i saw the best of the, best Like Jim plunkett going,

880
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: back like you.

881
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 5: Know But steph united The.

882
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: Bay he got old ladies loving basketball that didn't even watch,

883
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: basketball wear thirty. Jerseys and you couldn't go into a

884
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: restaurant in The bay expect somebody to eat food there

885
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: on A warrior's night unless you had A tv. On

886
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: so there was a RESTAURANT i, like and they Had

887
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: curry effect on the. Wall they did not want A.

888
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: Tv but nobody came to watch have dinner there Unless

889
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: i'm wree game nights and unless you had A.

890
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 5: Tv.

891
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: Wow and so they put A tv in. There so

892
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Like steph's influence on The bay that it's. Incredible he

893
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: got cred in the hood Of. Oakland he like with

894
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: mister fab and he go play pick up some times out,

895
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: there like little events and. Stuff if somebody so much

896
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: said That steph is here in The bay and something's

897
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: happening to. Him dudes From oakland would come in drovesoul

898
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: to save. Him should like he is a god there they.

899
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: Should and the day he retires in the, bay you're

900
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot.

901
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 5: Of people, crying as they. Should and, you guys know,

902
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: him he's even a better.

903
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: Person he deserves. Everything his family's.

904
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: Unbles even THOUGH i was covering THE, NBA i got

905
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: to be around him that. Rise and then in twenty,

906
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: SIXTEEN i went TO Espn undefeated at the, time they, Said,

907
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: hey we got a job covering THE nba and we

908
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: just want you to write long form stories on black.

909
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Athletes sign me, Up sign me.

910
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: Up in the lane you were, In, yeah and you

911
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: know how you stood on the things that you stood,

912
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: on and how you felt the way you, felt and

913
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: how you were honest about how you. Felt it can

914
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: be lonely, sometimes you know What i'm. Saying we talked

915
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 4: about mentorship, earlier AND i understand as a mentor of

916
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 4: a lot of young, guys you know what it means

917
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 4: to be a. Mentor but who mentors the mentor sometimes

918
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 4: is a question THAT i often find myself trying to, Ask,

919
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: like who DO i go to WHEN i need to

920
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: talk to, Somebody who DO i go to that helps

921
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 4: someone Else's you, know your.

922
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 5: Relationship with The audridge you, guys those.

923
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: Guys talk about the mentorship of those guys and how

924
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: they impacted you in your.

925
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: Lane, well first of, ALL i had to give a

926
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 1: guy Named Mike monroe a shout out WHEN i covered

927
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: The Denver. Posts he was THE nba riter, there and

928
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: he easily could have been like, really and he was

929
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: a VETERAN nba. Writer put his arm around me and

930
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that should be in The hall

931
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: Of fame as a, writer and basically took me under his.

932
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 5: Wing he ain't have to do.

933
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: That SO i always got love From Mike monroe and

934
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: AND i also got love always for any like white

935
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: journalists that would really help a black journalist, out like

936
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, mean because that tells me that

937
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: you're not even seeing.

938
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 5: Race. Yeah, yeah he's just a human to, Me, yeah

939
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 5: like he just was a Good.

940
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: But David aldridge to, Me david taught me the importance

941
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: of you tell me If i'm. Wrong this is WHAT

942
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: i try to do When i'm ON, Tv like every

943
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: time my OWN i want to tell you something you don't.

944
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: Know AND i got that From David, Autist, YES i

945
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: got that from. Him and then there was a Guy

946
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: i'm dating. Myself see if you guys remember, Him Roscoe

947
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: nance FROM Usa.

948
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 5: Today so.

949
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: WHEN i started started started COVERING nba or The, nuggets

950
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: AND i would See roscoe like whoever you guys like

951
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: idolizes THE nba player when you got to be around,

952
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: them LIKE i was hitting next to him in press

953
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: conferences and listen to how you asked questions and it

954
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: was just like A roscoe was there rest of the.

955
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Soul i'm right. There i'm right. There and so guys

956
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: like that helped me. Out like but all the like

957
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: older black riders man Like Art thompson The third and

958
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of guys In detroit like we

959
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: they all used to like look out for me and

960
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: take me under their, wing and you know.

961
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 4: It was a, fraternity but it was just it was

962
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 4: kind of quiet like but it was a. Guy it

963
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: was a good a group of black in the.

964
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 5: Group Brad turner from The La times still works.

965
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: There he's the one that convinced me to like, START

966
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: i got offered a job to stay In, Louisville kentucky

967
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: to continue to cover college. Basketball and THEN i got

968
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: The nuggets off and he's, like, man stop, Tripper i'm COVERING.

969
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 5: Nba so, like you, know shout out To Brad.

970
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Turner so it was a lot of different guys that you,

971
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: know certainly like helped me along the, way and BUT

972
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: i HAD i feel LIKE i paid it for it

973
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: AND i continue to pay it. Forward kellyako covers The

974
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: rockets for The. Athletic he came up to me in

975
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: front of you, know my wife yesterday and it was,

976
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: like MY, O, g.

977
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: It's.

978
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: Weird you did LIKE i don't even remember like telling, him,

979
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: like hey, man you ain't gotta wear a, suit but

980
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: you gotta like pick it up a little. Bit you

981
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: know people are watching. You we got to be a

982
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: little bit different with how we carry, ourselves you.

983
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: Know nigerian, guy and he he.

984
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Took that the, heart took that more serious about just

985
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: being professional when you're at. Work i'm just saying. STUFF

986
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: i don't know if they listen or. Not some people

987
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: ain't always.

988
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 5: Gonna listen though most people when you speak that we

989
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 5: listen from this side of things and.

990
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: Listen you know What i'm, saying, WELL i mean a

991
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: younger generation could be a little different, now SO.

992
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 4: I get on my goddamn. Nerves i's got to talk about.

993
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: Them be me b you, Man god damn more judicious

994
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: about drive me.

995
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 5: Crazy. MAN i don't, know but if they like be,

996
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: honest that's. Right but, yeah because you never know what's watching, man.

997
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: Not not to switch.

998
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 3: Gears, yeah but we have a too easy segment presented

999
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: By morgan And.

1000
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: MORGAN i, Know i'm just running my mouth like we

1001
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: love the ones that just.

1002
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 4: Flow, yeah when you gotta like pull teeth in the,

1003
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 4: afterwards me And mike gonna talk about.

1004
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 5: It but you can make it.

1005
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: Shorter, no but were don't watch. Shorter we want this is.

1006
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 3: Great WHAT i keep it covered over EIGHTEEN Nba, finals it's.

1007
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 5: More than how many? More, no they don't have an

1008
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 5: updated my buying how many is it?

1009
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: Eighteen it's, no It's i've been covering in me for

1010
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: twenty six. Years i've covered twenty.

1011
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: Five so twenty FIVE nba, five twenty five, Five.

1012
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: So that's too. Easy segment presented About morgan And. Morgan,

1013
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 2: yeah give me the.

1014
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: Most dominant finals performance you've ever, seen where guys made

1015
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: it look the.

1016
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: EASIEST a player one single player made it look so.

1017
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: Easy iverson game, One lakers step, over the only game

1018
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: they wanted a series, again.

1019
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 5: The only game they.

1020
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: Won talent level on both sides was extremely. Different but that,

1021
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: game man like the only game they. Won he was,

1022
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: Special so.

1023
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 5: Step.

1024
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: UP i STILL i still remember. That shout out to T,

1025
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: Lou but that that, GAME i.

1026
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 5: Was, like how special?

1027
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: That like in In staples Beat kobe in. Shacks he

1028
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: didn't and he didn't Have it was Like david And. Goliath,

1029
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: man he was so. Right i'm, like you know WHAT

1030
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: i WOULD i would really like to go watch go

1031
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: watch that game over.

1032
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 5: Again SO i Actually i'm going To.

1033
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah you want to watch it again. Too there's

1034
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 4: a lot of THINGS i don't remember about the, game

1035
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 4: BUT i remember The. Stepomer you don't forget, that.

1036
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: No because there was, like oh, shoot they won that.

1037
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: Game they didn't win a game another, one but he was.

1038
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: Special that was his only finals.

1039
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,480
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1040
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: may want to keep under wraps insurance company's profit by

1041
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,759
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1042
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: after an accident they might do whatever they can to

1043
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 3: delay or deny your. Claim this way they can keep

1044
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 3: those profits. Growing morgan And morgan fights hard against these,

1045
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: corporations a fight to make sure you get every dollar

1046
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: you deserve winning. Court the insurance companies want juries to

1047
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: think that at fault driver is the one paying the verdict. Amount,

1048
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: meanwhile it's really the insurance companies who are covering the.

1049
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: Cost When morgan And morgan takes on a, case there

1050
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 3: are almost always going after the big insurance companies and

1051
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 3: not the individuals at. Fault morgan And morgan fights hard

1052
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 3: for their, clients and these corporations know that recent client

1053
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 3: In pennsylvania just received twenty nine. Million that's twenty nine million.

1054
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Speaker 3: Dollars ensures best offer was five hundred. Thousand another recent

1055
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: client In florida received twenty million dollars last offer. Zero

1056
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 3: there's a reason Why morgan And morgan Is america's largest injury.

1057
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,359
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1058
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 3: Disastrous hiring the right firm could substantially increase your. Settlement

1059
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,920
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1060
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1064
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Speaker 3: friends is a paid. ADVERTISEMENT i, mean.

1065
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: But what you got to think about? It like they

1066
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,959
Speaker 4: didn't win, it but how much the city Of philly loves?

1067
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 5: Him oh?

1068
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah oh like we had we had The morris into tweins.

1069
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: On they were talking about how he used to sell

1070
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 4: OUT tji On. Friday that's WHY i teach.

1071
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: You that text message was forty thousands like, that that's the, City, like, come,

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1073
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Speaker 5: City tell the.

1074
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Story like one time me and, Him Chucky atkins we

1075
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: went to dinner.

1076
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 5: Or LUNCH Chucki akins And florida. Guy, yeah In, ORLANDO

1077
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Speaker 5: i played With.

1078
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: Chuck is, like let's go to lunch And chuck's coming with?

1079
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: Me You, Chuck, No, Ck chuck's coming. Off let's.

1080
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: Go let's.

1081
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 5: Go we go to this.

1082
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: Steakhouse, HEY i don't care what the level. Is he

1083
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: gonna be. Him he shows, Up we're all dressed.

1084
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 5: Nice it was Like Ruth chris or.

1085
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Something flip, flops basketball, shorts White. Peeter we're Like Ruth

1086
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: chris Man yankee cat do rag underneath and it was,

1087
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: like remember E. F Hunting mershall when HE F hunting

1088
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: talked to. People i've never been in a restaurant where

1089
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: you can hear a pin drop because everybody was trying to.

1090
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: Eavesdrop and let's talking about tell. Stories but When chuck tells,

1091
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: story y'all been to dinner With.

1092
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 5: Chuck, Now i've been to dinner with, him But i've

1093
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 5: been around to stand. Up. Oh so he's.

1094
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: Standing up in the restaurant telling the stories and his

1095
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: voice is so like a bulling, voice like everybody can

1096
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: hear what the whole restaurant, Was, LIKE.

1097
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 5: I want to hear his, story but he had to

1098
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 5: stand up to tell the.

1099
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: STORY i, mean BUT i like the probably the coolest

1100
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: day of my, Career allen goes Into hall Of.

1101
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 5: Fame This hall Of fame is incredible And i'm covering.

1102
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: It Shaq, Yeah, Iverson Lisa, LESLER i remember.

1103
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: That, ACTUALLY i think it was the WAY i think

1104
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: The wade. Was there was the one who who he

1105
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 4: had iverson Is SHRINE. D. Wade, right, yeah, okay so

1106
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 4: you have and the way it goes with the with

1107
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 4: The hall Of, fame somebody bring somebody.

1108
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: In SO i found out this. Story, Later shaq had

1109
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 5: a private.

1110
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: Jet iverson found out That shack had a private, jet

1111
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: but he didn't get.

1112
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 5: One so ALL i was, LIKE i get, there when

1113
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 5: y'all getting me my pj, oh good old, business old.

1114
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 5: Jacket they had a press.

1115
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: Conference alan ain't, There shack, There, lisa y'all other.

1116
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 5: Folks allan ain't.

1117
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: There shack Was shack's, mad AND i didn't understand why

1118
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: he was mad at the.

1119
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 5: Time big fellow was.

1120
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: Mad shack being, shocked but he was. MAD i don't

1121
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: know if he's mad Because allan. Wasn't he was he.

1122
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: Was he was irritated That alan wasn't there, yet and

1123
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: they were everybody else is doing all this, stuff But

1124
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: alan was.

1125
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 5: There so all of a, Sudden alan shows up like

1126
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 5: a bat out of.

1127
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: Hell, right the press conference, over but we're getting them

1128
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: At he comes Up yankee, hat you, know like, SAYING

1129
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: t shirt long tea white t. Shorts his guy, says you, know,

1130
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: man come in the back real. Quick runs in the.

1131
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: BACK i have the. Video he puts the jacket on,

1132
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: him The hall Of fame. Jacket he runs, back but

1133
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: he still got The yankee cap, on, right and he's sitting.

1134
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 5: Down he's doing the, interview and a guy.

1135
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: From Associated, press he, goes can you tell us why

1136
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: you were?

1137
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 5: Late it was almost like, practice we gotta talk about.

1138
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: That i'm.

1139
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: Here why we gotta talk about? That, Man it's, like

1140
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: we gotta be focused on The hall Of. Fame we

1141
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: don't need to be talking about Why i'm, late blah blah.

1142
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Blah and Then alan was so amazing as he always.

1143
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: Was interviewing, him he starts. Crying it's like going A MARY.

1144
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: J blise. Concert, Right he's bringing you through all these

1145
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: different motions of his, life, right and he's, like tell

1146
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: us he's great. Stories and So i'm On Sports center

1147
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: later that, night and the first question they asked me

1148
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: About alan being, Late, LIKE i, Mean alan always comes

1149
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: late to, STUFF i, Said i'm used. To it doesn't bother.

1150
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: ME i, said but when he's, there it's. Incredible you

1151
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: forget he's. Late, yes he's. Present he's storytelling is. Amazing

1152
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: his story is. Amazing LIKE i after thirty, SECONDS i

1153
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: forgot he was late like, That but you know that's

1154
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: just the Aura alan. Iverson, Yes so after they had

1155
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: a like A hall Of fame event that, night he's walking,

1156
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: out he sees. Me he's with his. Boys that's my.

1157
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: Man damn, man that's my. Man, mom that's my.

1158
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 5: Man.

1159
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: Man he was On Sports center the day and he

1160
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: could have killed me being, late but, no that's my.

1161
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 5: Man he said nothing like. That. MAN i love. Him man, said,

1162
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 5: MAN i love you. Too so he gave me a.

1163
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: HUG a whole bunch of people and a bunch of

1164
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: other and each one of his boys came.

1165
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 5: Up and gave me a.

1166
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: Hug that's the COOLEST i ever felt my, life Like

1167
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: alan iverson like, publicly.

1168
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 5: Like let me tell, you so that is cool that,

1169
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: Day LIKE i know that.

1170
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: FEELING i know THAT i had the chance to early

1171
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 4: on in my, CAREER i was out here In vegas

1172
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 4: With Antoine. Walker we were hanging out in him And,

1173
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: ai you, know were gambling at the table and just

1174
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: be at the table With.

1175
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: Ai that was one of my proudest. MOMENTS i ain't

1176
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: had the fund to gamble with.

1177
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 5: THEM i was just. Spectator just to be at the.

1178
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 4: Table and hang around and hang out With ai at that,

1179
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: moment like that was one of the coolest moments THAT

1180
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 4: i ever.

1181
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 5: Had that was like my rookie second third. Year it

1182
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 5: was it. Was it was early on in my. Career

1183
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 5: you know What i'm, Saying BUT i know the impact

1184
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 5: that he. Had i'll be remissing about. It talked about the.

1185
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: Impact Kobe bryant had a mean being, LIKE i don't

1186
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: know why he liked, me but he. Did you, NO

1187
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: i THINK i that'sd a lot of introspect. QUESTIONS i

1188
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: minded in psychology AND i use a lot of. That

1189
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: so he, said, man you're always asking these doctor seusass, questions,

1190
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: Right but some reason he liked. Me and IF i

1191
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: would email him tell him WHEN i was, coming and

1192
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: the reporters IN la would get pissed because he would do.

1193
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 5: Them and then he give me. Time and so one

1194
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: time he, said you asked doctor, sus.

1195
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: But he liked my, questions like there were deeper questions

1196
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: made him.

1197
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 5: Think so one TIME i show, up, Bro i'm in

1198
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 5: this Beautiful adidas.

1199
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: Sweatsuit i'm a hard guy to fit this three EXCEL t, ship,

1200
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: RIGHT i had to choose and match all black the

1201
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: BLACK t shirt.

1202
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 5: Underneath he couldn't tell.

1203
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: Me nothing that, day and and and being said he

1204
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: would talk to me after. Practice so meet him at

1205
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: the practice and he's looking at me like with. Disgust i'm,

1206
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: like And nico was with, Him it's, like why.

1207
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: Are you disrespected me like? That?

1208
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Oh because, bro, like what are you talking about wearing?

1209
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: That AND i looked and it hit me like he,

1210
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: SAID i ain't doing an. Interview, like, Dog i'm talk to.

1211
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: You what you mean you ain't doing the. INTERVIEW i

1212
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: ain't interviewing you wearing? That i'm, like what you want

1213
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: me to take it? All i'll be, like, Yeah i'm,

1214
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: like come, on, Man, Dad he was dead as. Here,

1215
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he's, like, no What i'm gonna tell you what

1216
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna. Do you're gonna go. Home i'm gonna give

1217
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: you an, interview but when you go, Home i'm gonna

1218
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: need you to film you're throwing that away and send

1219
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: me the. Video i'm talking about stood on. Visits he was, like,

1220
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: so if you're willing to do, that well we could

1221
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: conduct the. Interview BET i did the. Interview at that,

1222
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,479
Speaker 1: TIME i lived in the apartment that had a trash,

1223
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: shoot and a FRIEND i was hanging out at a,

1224
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: time filmed, it dropped in the tash, shoot filmed, it

1225
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: sent it to, him AND i think he respected.

1226
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 5: That.

1227
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: OH i think he was exactly, right.

1228
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: Damn but he always looked out for, me always gave

1229
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: me exclusive. Interviews his last game In, oakland the only

1230
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: TIME i ever sat in the training room was because

1231
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: he told me to come there and. Stay WHEN i

1232
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: got the job At The Undefeated, adscape he sent me

1233
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: an email, saying. Congrats what CAN i do to help?

1234
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: You he's such a.

1235
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 5: Legend to the weekend.

1236
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: That he, PASSED i was sending him an email that

1237
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: weekend see IF i could get an Early hall Of

1238
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: fame interview from. HIM i was going to send that

1239
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: that That monday because it was A. SUNDAY i always

1240
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: remember it was A sunday. Morning and y'all, know if

1241
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: it's ON tmz and IT'S, la it's. Real if it's

1242
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: TM z in in L, a it's. Real AND i

1243
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: just saw that come over On twitter and desrobitbe the

1244
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: hardest STORY i ever had to write my, life BECAUSE

1245
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: i got a call from my editor and he's, LIKE

1246
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: i need a story in ninety minutes On. Kobe you

1247
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: got to write, that Asd, like after he, PASSED i

1248
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: had to immediately like flip into work mode and write

1249
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: a story about this man's.

1250
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 5: Passing, yeah the.

1251
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: Hardest STORY i ever had to write that, somehow it's

1252
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: still tough to talk about. IT i ain't come to

1253
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: peace with. IT i don't think any of y'all. KNOW

1254
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: i don't know if we ever. Will And i've only

1255
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: competed against him and shook his hands after, games and

1256
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: that's still tough to me to.

1257
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 5: Process LIKE i.

1258
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: Just, yeah LIKE i can't watch And i've been a

1259
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: part of. It some of the documentaries done ON i

1260
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: can't watch. It it was he was so, amazing LIKE

1261
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: i wish the players could, see but in.

1262
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: Every aspect, though, no, No i'm not even talking about

1263
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: mass in every.

1264
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: Aspect so what he would do.

1265
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: Is And draymond does this now if he meets somebody

1266
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: LIKE i Took draymond to See Branford marsalis and concert jazz,

1267
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: saxophonists one of the greatest in the, world And draymond

1268
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: Grilled branford afterwards about the teamwork between the. Band kobe

1269
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: was doing. That so If kobe met, somebody they would

1270
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: be all nervous and stuff like, that but he would

1271
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: bring their make them relaxed by knowing who they were

1272
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: and saying their name and knowing their background and Then,

1273
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: oh you're an expert in. This i'm gonna squeeze this

1274
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: from you and find out what makes you. Great and

1275
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: SO i really feel like if he was still, HERE.

1276
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 5: I feel like.

1277
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: He'd have been a few people on a few people

1278
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: on this planet that would have figured out a way

1279
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: to help unite this, country.

1280
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: And that.

1281
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: It was. Unbelievable he was a special. Person. Smart before

1282
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 5: we get out of, here the mark And i'm, SORRY

1283
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 5: i love it that we all we all feel.

1284
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: That but before we get out of we always DO

1285
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 2: O g. ADVICE i usually let THE O g do.

1286
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 5: It we're gonna give you THE O g.

1287
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 3: Advice today for anyone growing, up looking at trying to

1288
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: be even younger than anything in. Life really JUST og

1289
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: advice before we head out of here for the.

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Speaker 1: Listeners, always when they asked, me the young journalists asked me,

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Speaker 1: This i'm, like BUT i think it applies to. Everything

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Speaker 1: differentiate yourself from everybody. Else what are you doing that's.

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Speaker 1: Different there's a lot of people that, write but what

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: are you doing that's? Different how do you make yourself

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Speaker 1: stand out in the? Crowd and so a lot of

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Speaker 1: Times i'll literally like sit in my office And i'll

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Speaker 1: look at the standings and go by, it not to

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Speaker 1: look at the, standings but to look at the name

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Speaker 1: of the. Teens AND i think about the players of the,

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Speaker 1: teams AND i think about their, lives AND i might

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Speaker 1: even go look on ig and see what they're doing

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Speaker 1: and try to find a story about them that's interesting

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Speaker 1: that nobody's thinking, about right and and BUT i watched

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Speaker 1: a lot of basketball, too so he KNOWS i. Did

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Jeremiah fears, LIKE i feel LIKE i got a really good,

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Speaker 1: Eye LIKE i Saw clay And, dame you, Know Pete Paul,

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Speaker 1: george LIKE i wrote them as like sleepers before they came,

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Speaker 1: out AND i Think jeremiah is one of. Them SO

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Speaker 1: i got ahead on ed like trying to get ahead on,

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Speaker 1: things meeting the players before THEY i already Know Dylan,

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Speaker 1: HARPER i Met Ace bailey, BEFORE i talked To Cooper flag.

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Speaker 1: Before come, on, male you WATCH i met him In.

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Speaker 1: Africa Like i'm, TRYING i try to get. Ahead SO

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Speaker 1: i think the two main thing is differentiate yourself and

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Speaker 1: always to stay two steps ahead of the. Possums and

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Speaker 1: you said differentiate, Yourself, Ma it's just one, thing because

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Speaker 1: it made me think of something THAT i wanted to touch

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Speaker 1: on earlier the cabinet and. Conversations wine is so big

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Speaker 1: in THE. Nba wine is not my. Thing, Yeah i'm,

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Speaker 1: all you, KNOW i took a little shot at, That

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Speaker 1: yeah or something like.

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Speaker 5: That keep.

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Speaker 4: Pushing but wine is, Huge, Ina so when you talk about,

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Speaker 4: that where did that come? From because that's, Huge it's

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Speaker 4: huge in THE. Nba you enjoy it and you bring

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Speaker 4: that together with conversations and you get authentic conversations with.

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Speaker 1: People so that was you. DO i THINK i had

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Speaker 1: the coolest side job of ANY nba. Reporter i'm a

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Speaker 1: wine in BASKET yep For Kendel Jackson. Wine shout out

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Speaker 1: To Kennel jackson. Wins Kendel Jackson wine became official one

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Speaker 1: of THE, nba w n B a AND Usa. Basketball

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Speaker 1: me being from The, Bay, okay it's like y'all being

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Speaker 1: with the beach In miami right Or South dakota with,

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Speaker 1: Right like.

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Speaker 5: Wine is in our.

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Speaker 1: BLOOD i started liking wine WHEN i was, ten, damn

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Speaker 1: just going into uh tasting, room, yeah and just smelling

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Speaker 1: it from the barrels LIKE i was In Napa valley's

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes. Away BUT i had an affinity for. WINE

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Speaker 1: i was putting on social. MEDIA i think if you

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Speaker 1: put on social media what you love at some, point

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01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: whoever's in that, industry if they feel like you're an

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Speaker 1: influence could have some, influence they're gonna bring you. In

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 1: and When Kendel jackson signed a deal with THE nba

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Speaker 1: W NBA Usa basketball last, year they needed to bring

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Speaker 1: somebody in who could help them bridge the gap between

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Speaker 1: THE nba and.

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Speaker 5: Them they, don't they didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Anybody so luckily with PEOPLE i, Know i've been doing

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Speaker 1: wine dinners with, them And i'm actually going to W

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Speaker 1: nba weekend to do A valkyri's Lunch man because, yeah

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Speaker 1: And Stephanie white From The, fever Because Kennel jackson sponsors

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Speaker 1: The fever and The. VALKYRIES i gotta go TO wnba

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Speaker 1: all stry to do. Those But i've been done dinners

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Speaker 1: With Dirk, Kirk, Yes Grant, Hell.

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Speaker 5: Isaiah, thomas.

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Speaker 1: Some Candas Parker wine dinners like they paid me to

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 5: And they sent me free. Wine so, LISTEN i simple,

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Speaker 5: little simple little. Wine can we? CAN i have them

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Speaker 5: send you guys. LOVE i will simple little wine like,

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Speaker 5: YEAH i, will.

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Speaker 1: Because because people that say they don't like. IT i,

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Speaker 1: mean what kind OF i ain't.

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Speaker 5: Found NOTHING i. LIKE i SAY i should say this

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Speaker 5: WHAT i haven't?

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Speaker 2: Found WHAT i?

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Speaker 5: Like what do? YOU i don't? Like?

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Speaker 1: Dry, No i'm not talking about. Wine what's your spirit of?

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Speaker 1: CHOICE i don't really. HAVE i just like to get.

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Speaker 1: It ain't really WHAT i? Drink is you feel drinking this?

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Speaker 1: Stuff it's MORE i. Drink NO i drink, NOW i drink.

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Speaker 1: TEQUILA i only drink. Tequila but you ain't you drink hell,

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Speaker 1: NO i drink do use? To usually it's the nineteen

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Speaker 1: forty Two, yeah, yeah it's the nineteen forty two.

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Speaker 4: Levels Maybe bronz excuse, me, Yeah. Lobos, yeah and also

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Speaker 4: the one M j got with bust them that.

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Speaker 5: There's levels you're not you're not drinking.

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Speaker 1: No hell, no hell, NO i ain't, drinking, no. Patron

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Speaker 1: my point is there's levels to. Wine, Right so when

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Speaker 1: you're drinking the elite of the elite, one you.

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Speaker 5: Know so you're Saying i've been drinking. Shampipo probably.

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Speaker 1: Know like because for, EXAMPLE i trust, You so when

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Speaker 1: you when you put me on most.

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Speaker 5: Of the, wine like when you go to company, functions is?

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Speaker 1: Garbage what about ours last night, no y'all have some good,

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Speaker 1: stuff BUT i know how to get.

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Speaker 5: It we all had a company function and even't invite.

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Speaker 2: Me we did invite.

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Speaker 1: You that's you want to invite me to the. Podcast

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Speaker 1: that's it because the co. Host you gotta know where

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Speaker 1: the good wine. IS i know where the good wine

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Speaker 1: AND i saw it WHEN i got, there SO i already.

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Speaker 1: Knew but once you had a good, one and then

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Speaker 1: the experience of going to these beautiful.

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Speaker 5: WINERIES i, mean all my guys are into. It EVERYBODY

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Speaker 5: i hang out a vibe.

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Speaker 1: Bro i'm telling, YOU i think wineries on top of

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Speaker 1: hills they. Got it's just like you drive. Up it's

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Speaker 1: like you're driving through a. Postcard y'all come. Out we'll

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Speaker 1: do the show out.

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Speaker 5: There Like i'll give im.

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Speaker 1: There there's a place Called La koya That's luca's favorite,

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Speaker 1: one and it's overlooking the Whole Napa. Valley i'll get

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: y'all show FROM i guarantee. That and then if you

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: go out of, there you're, like, yeah he canna be

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01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: holding wine like, this.

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01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 5: You, know smelling. It i'm looking at. Him every want to,

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01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 5: say do what you're? Smelling Fun once.

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Speaker 1: You get, converted once you're in going back that shaky next,

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Speaker 1: thing you, know you at The Bronz dinners bringing.

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Speaker 4: It how long it takes fun of the residue to

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Speaker 4: fall off the side of the glass when you shake.

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01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 4: It it's got good it is because it don't, matter

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Speaker 4: so understand. Level oh so you know had.

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Speaker 2: Sixty i'm gonnadrink beer most of the, time you, know

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Speaker 2: but at the end of the, DAY i was.

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Speaker 5: Fortunate so you got bottles at the? Crib?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah BUT i used to be the crackeys and

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Speaker 3: they open up screaming eagles, up you, know.

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01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 5: Screaming and if you go from, scream if.

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: You go to anything to screaming.

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Speaker 5: Eagle, wow how much that bottle? Cost? Three? Started? Three

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Speaker 5: the only.

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Speaker 4: ONE i used to know for, sure AND i just

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01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: knew open was one BECAUSE i saw get it one

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Speaker 4: time AND i was, LIKE i know that because got

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Speaker 4: that WAS i was, like got.

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Speaker 5: THAT i know that? Good but that was? Good? Wasn't

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Speaker 5: yeah it was. Good there's a Different it was.

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Speaker 2: Good screaming ego tastes like. Butter it's so.

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Speaker 5: Good, yeah it's not. Subdle. HOME i just don't like,

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Speaker 5: Dry so give me SOMETHING i ain't. DRY i. Could

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Speaker 5: I'm i'm gonna curate something that's gonna be mail for.

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Speaker 5: Both y'all appreciate. It say let's From Kendl, jackson your.

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Speaker 2: BROTHER i appreciate you coming, brother absolutely legend. Man thank

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Speaker 2: you so, much going, On thank you so.

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Speaker 5: Much that was.

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Speaker 2: AWESOME O g's, Album

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Speaker 5: Mama mam