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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the first episode of the Son of

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Speaker 1: a Butch podcast. I'm your host, Claude Harmon. Took the

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Speaker 1: summer off really excited to be back. A new partner,

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Speaker 1: new name for the show. Partner is I Heart Radio. UM,

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Speaker 1: I got to have a summer off. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank everybody at golf dot com who we partnered with

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Speaker 1: last year for the podcast. UM that and at the

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Speaker 1: end of May, UH, I didn't get shut down by Live,

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Speaker 1: didn't have to not do the podcast because of Live,

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Speaker 1: all the Live conspiracy theories. There's a lot of crazy

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Speaker 1: shit out there. But UM, really excited to be back.

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Speaker 1: You guys know the drill. We're going to have great guests, golfers,

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Speaker 1: people that love golf, and hopefully you'll get better by listening.

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Speaker 1: I always say golf is a pretty simple game that

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Speaker 1: confusedes smart people. And one of the things UH, A

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Speaker 1: lot of the feedback that I got UH from last

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Speaker 1: year's UM podcast was UM that we had great guests,

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Speaker 1: and I just can't thank everyone enough for listening because listen.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think the podcast was was going to take off,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that I didn't do it. I was

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Speaker 1: constantly getting messages saying where's the podcast? So it's back.

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Speaker 1: And if you're gonna have a podcast named Son of

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Speaker 1: a Butch, who better to have his first guests if

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Speaker 1: your dad's name is Butch Harmon than Butch Harmon. Um.

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Speaker 1: Last time we talked to my dad on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: I think it was the week after the Masters, and

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Speaker 1: how the golf landscape has changed. He's got some great

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Speaker 1: takes on kind of where we are today. We talk

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Speaker 1: about all the major champions. Uh, just such an amazing

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Speaker 1: future of where golf is going. So the Son of

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Speaker 1: a Butcher podcast first episode, sit back and enjoy listening

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Speaker 1: to the legend that is Butch Harmon. So the obvious

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Speaker 1: the podcast um is Butch Harmon. If I'd told you

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Speaker 1: at augusta National Scottie Shuffler has just played unbelievable. He's

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Speaker 1: won his first green jacket and then he he starts

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Speaker 1: out and then we have what we have now as

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Speaker 1: the Gulf landscape, which you've believed that golf would be

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Speaker 1: where it is today, No, I think I wouldn't believe

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Speaker 1: the chaos that's going on. There's a lot of that

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Speaker 1: is you know, you you're you're kind of involved that

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Speaker 1: just life moves on in different challenges you're thrown out

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Speaker 1: there and this is kind of a big one. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to wait and see what happens. And I

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Speaker 1: just think the parties, both parties on both sides, the

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Speaker 1: live side, the pgate tours side, and they take a

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Speaker 1: deep breath and say, hey, look, let's just try and

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Speaker 1: get along and let's let's see what we can do

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Speaker 1: to make this work. And until that happens, I think

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Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this before. I think

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some more guys switch over. Who they are,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You hear all the routenents, but until

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Speaker 1: think the tour is going to have to somehow are

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Speaker 1: now they're coming up with all these new plans to

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Speaker 1: So it's I don't know. I think it reminds me

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Speaker 1: going this way instead of coming this way. And so

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Speaker 1: you've been good friends with Greg Norman for you know,

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Speaker 1: a better part of thirty years. You coached him, You

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Speaker 1: I know you consider him a friend. You also played

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: I think they both need to put their egos aside

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Speaker 1: then try and get together because, as you know, you're

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Speaker 1: involved with lib Twitter more than I. I don't know

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Speaker 1: there on it. It's not going away. It's here to stay.

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Speaker 1: So let's figure out a way to make it work.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think the sad thing is we you know,

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Speaker 1: He's a completely different player. I think he's a different

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Speaker 1: he is in the in the first couple rounds, and

428
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: that let me go back to what you were talking about,

429
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: because I think it's the nervous system thing and how

430
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: you control your nerves and stuff like that. He's far

431
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 1: and away modern day the best driver I've ever seen.

432
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 1: His swing is built for driving. If you look at it,

433
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: it's not built to a sixty hard wedge shot. It's

434
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: built a beautiful release. I mean he had hit some

435
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 1: drives for seventy last week. I excuse me, almost four yard,

436
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: not fourth seventing, but almost card and but there's more

437
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: to golf than driving. To me, the two most important

438
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: things to be a really good player as good driving

439
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: and good putty. Well, he's got the good driving down.

440
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 1: He's got to work on the consistency of the putty.

441
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 1: Now the oppst into that is Kem Smith is the

442
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: best part of what He doesn't drive the ball very well,

443
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: so it's getting that out I'm talking about. Um. Another

444
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: amazing performance over the weekend from Patrick Cantley. Um. When

445
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: this kid gets an opportunity to win, there is no backup,

446
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: there is no fear. I thought the shot he hit

447
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: at seventeen were yet again another wedd shot where you

448
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: have to hit one. You're trying to get that inside it,

449
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, ten ft he hits it to tap in

450
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: another beautiful controlled What what do you like about Patrick's

451
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: game and what do you like about him as as

452
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: a player, Well, I think number one, he's got a

453
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: beautiful golf swing. Fundamentally, he's got a beautiful rhythm in

454
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: his swing is His patting stroke is very long and smooth,

455
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: which mimics is Gosling. I think his coach, Jeremy Mulligan

456
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: has done a wonderful job and letting Patrick be Patrick,

457
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: not try and create a swing for him, just do

458
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: what he does with his swing and make it better.

459
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: He works tremendously hard on every part of his game.

460
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: He minds me a lot of a Greg Norman or

461
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: a Tiger Woods. The amount of time he puts in

462
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: on every aspect of the game. Not just full swing,

463
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: not just three quarters swing, not just part of not

464
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: just tip. He does it all. He works extremely hard

465
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: on it. Uh. He doesn't playing as many tournaments as

466
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the other guys playing, and he takes

467
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: his time off, which I think is good. Uh. He

468
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have the most garious personality, so I don't think

469
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: the average person knows him like we know the other

470
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: players because he's kind of just refined and the way

471
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: he is. But I mean this, this kid can really play.

472
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 1: And look at where he's come from. I mean he

473
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: went a few years he couldn't even hardly move. His

474
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: back was so bad. Uh, he went to a terrible

475
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: tragedy with his best friend was killed right in front

476
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: of him. He saw it happen. I mean, this kid

477
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: has gone through a lot, and I think that's why

478
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: you see this Uh. I would say this kind of

479
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: smoothed down demeanor that he has, he doesn't let things

480
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: bother me. You don't see a lot of high you

481
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of loads, you don't see a

482
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: lot of smiles, you don't see a lot of anger.

483
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: He goes about his business very well. He's got a

484
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: great head on his shoulder for golf. He understands the

485
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: golf courses that he prepares beautifully for him player and

486
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: another player. Um, even though he had to pull out

487
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: last week with a back injury. Wills Alaturus. You know

488
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: when when you spend as much time as we spend

489
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: on the tours around the world, you see young players

490
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: where they get close, they have opportunities. Um. Everybody can

491
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: see that they can win golf tournaments. They should be

492
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: winning golf tournaments. UM. It took Will a little bit

493
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: longer to get his first one. UM, but very very

494
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: impressive as a player. And you know he's part of

495
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: that new generation of players, Dad that comes out. They

496
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: come out of college. There's no learning curve, there's no

497
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: apprentice shift. They come out they have chanced. Cam Young

498
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: is another one of these guys that have just burst

499
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: onto the scene and it looks like they belong. And

500
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: it looks to me when you're around them that even

501
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: though they haven't had the length of time on tour

502
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: than other players, it looks like they feel like they

503
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: belong in their first or second year. Why they can

504
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: see what you're seeing is how wonderful the college system is.

505
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the college system is like Triple A Baseball

506
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: League Baseball. I mean, they're they're they're groomed for this.

507
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: They come out of college programs. Most of them only

508
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: stay a couple of years, but they come out of

509
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: college programs and they're ready to play. They walk on

510
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: the tour, unlike guys like myself back in the sixties

511
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: came on the tour and we were intimidated by the

512
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: great players and stuff. You would tell yourself you weren't.

513
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: But when you get older and you look back on it,

514
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: you say, heck, can you get paired one of the

515
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: best players in the world and you're nervous and how

516
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: do I handle this? And things like that these guys

517
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: they've they've got ice water in their mains. They just

518
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: come out. They know they're good, they know their strengths.

519
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: They all work hard. They work harder thing. And you know,

520
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: I think Dela Tours gets a bad rap about being

521
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: a bad putter. You know that bad did has missed

522
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: some sort puts at various times. And you know Jordan's speech,

523
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: this is two putters sometimes everybody talks about about. Yeah,

524
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he puts that bad. Yeah, it's a

525
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: weird looking set up, the way he sets up the

526
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: way he goes about it. But you can't win tournaments

527
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: and compete in majors like he has. My god, how

528
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: many seconds and thirds has he had already? You know,

529
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: you be able to make putts. I just think it's

530
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Caud Is he's gonna win one of

531
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: these and it's going to be a snowball going down here.

532
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: Is he's just gonna take her. He's gonna do somewilar

533
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: what Scottie Shefford done. He's gonna get a taste to

534
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: win in. And Sheffard is another one who's a really

535
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: good putter. He's gonna get a taste to win, and

536
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a taste to feel uncomfortable in that position.

537
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: And sometimes you need a break to win. Sometimes you

538
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: need something to happen to one of the other guys

539
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: in a tournament. It's not good, it's been happening to you.

540
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: And so I think this kid has got a great future.

541
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's skinny, he looks like a one rond

542
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: without a grip from kids. Unbelievable he and yet he

543
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: cannot the heck at well, they all knock the heck Catt.

544
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: But he's good. Whether he's going to turn it to

545
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: be one of the great ones, time will tell. But

546
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: he has the tools that I thought. He showed a

547
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: lot of mental maturity. You know, in the playoff in

548
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Memphis for the first FedEx Um he gets unbelievably lucky

549
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: late in the playoff for the ball not to go

550
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: in the water, SEPs track of rinses it in the water.

551
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: He and his new caddy Um go over. They look

552
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: at their options. I mean a lot of people would

553
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: have said, I'm gonna try and pull this off. Um

554
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: a lot of maturity to go back to the drop

555
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: zone and then stand up and again hit one of

556
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: those wet shots that we were talking about earlier, a

557
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: hundred and some odd yard wet shot that took one bounce,

558
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: sat down and it gave him, you know, six ft

559
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: for the wind. Right. What he did, he trusted his ability,

560
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: He knew what his strengths were, He knew that, he

561
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: knew that yardage was good for the way he likes

562
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: to go about it, and it was perfect and once again,

563
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: under pressure, he handled the situation. He did exactly what

564
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: he had to do. It's Tiger going into a new

565
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: phase in his life, Dad professionally, Um into that kind

566
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: of Jack and Arnie role that Arnold had when he

567
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: was still alive, to where they kind of were golf, right,

568
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: they were professional golf. I mean, I know you. Arnold

569
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Palmer was your hero growing up. Um, you idolized him. Um,

570
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: you've been a huge fan of Jack. You you spent

571
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: a lot of time with both of them. I think

572
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: when they were both alive, they were kind of seen

573
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: as the professional game. Um, is that the role you

574
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: think Tigers going towards. Do you think he's being pushed

575
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: towards that role? Do you think it's a role that

576
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: he wants, Because let's be honest. I mean, there are

577
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people behind the scene saying, okay, now

578
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: Tiger is gonna go. And you know you heard that

579
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: Justin Thomas and Roy said, Tiger cares passionately about the

580
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: PGA Tour. But Dad, you worked for tigraphy years. Tiger

581
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: never went to the locker room. He never went to

582
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: the players lounge. He probably if you looked at the

583
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: amount of people he consistently and religiously played practice round

584
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: with in his career. In the early days, it was

585
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: Marco Mira and John Cook. Was a very small group

586
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: of people. And then he played practice around with Bubba,

587
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: he played with Arginette. Well, now he plays a lot

588
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: of his practice rounds with Justin. But it's not like

589
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: Tiger rocks up and anybody can play with him. Um,

590
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: he didn't interact right when you were around him. He

591
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Tiger didn't really interact with anyone else on tour. Tiger

592
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: did his thing. So now this role that I think

593
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are big fans of the

594
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: PGA Tour they want him to be this role kind

595
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: of the de facto face of it. Um, how do

596
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: you think this plays out for for Tiger? Well, first

597
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: of all Tiger knew, but he had to be and

598
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: how he had to be to be the greatest player

599
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: in the world. And that's how he was. He got

600
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: in his world and he didn't care for anybody else

601
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: was and all you people are going to get in it.

602
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: It's so the few he would let it into it.

603
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: And so, yes, he didn't spend a lot of time

604
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: in the locker room. The guys will tell you and

605
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: all that he was fun to be around the locker room.

606
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: That he's always giving it everybody a bunch of ship.

607
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: He can't take it when they gave it back, he

608
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: he cannot take it. But having said that, I think

609
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: that you look at him as yes, all the young

610
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: players look up to him. They all look up to him.

611
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: If you look at the ten or twelve best young

612
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: players in the world in their twenties, they are only

613
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 1: on the tour because of Tiger Woods. Because when they

614
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: were five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, Tiger

615
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Woods was the man and they all wanted to be

616
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: like him. So I think he carries a tremendous amount

617
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: of respect among the young players. And I think if

618
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: you I don't know who went to that meeting, but

619
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: I bet there wasn't a lot of old ones in there,

620
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: but most of them were the younger ones, the younger

621
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: superstars that are in there. And I think he relishes

622
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: that role. I think it is a new time in

623
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: his life. Yes, he would love to compete and win tournaments,

624
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: that's what he's all about. But I think he likes

625
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: the fact and and I don't know, only he knows,

626
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: and the commissioner knows. Did the commissioner asked him to

627
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: go do this or because this was a player's meeting,

628
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: commissioner wasn't There was this Tiger's idea. Once again, I

629
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: don't know how it all came about, but I things

630
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: like this are good. You see players in baseball and

631
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: football and basketball things aren't going right, so they have

632
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: a players meeting. I'll get everybody out of here, to

633
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: press out of here, all coaches out of here, Manager

634
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: is everybody out of here. We're gonna talk this over.

635
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: And I think they probably talked over what's been going on? What,

636
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: what what avenue do we have to approach. I'm not

637
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: sure that a lot of them agreed with the fact.

638
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: We just can't admit they exist because they're out there.

639
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: So we have to figure out how we can all

640
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: work together and make it good for all of us.

641
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: And I think that if that's what that meeting was about,

642
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: and I have to believe it was, I think that

643
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: was good for the game because you need to have

644
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the players get together, not the not the managers, not

645
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: the tour staff, not any of these. The players are

646
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: the show. Other people are not the show. I'm sorry.

647
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean to put anybody else down, but the

648
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: players of the show. The players play, they like. The

649
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: players don't play, Nobody likes it. And so I think

650
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: it was a good meeting. I'd love to hear what

651
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: really happened, whether we ever will hear that, and and

652
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but somebody all leak it Sunday. I

653
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: think it's interesting that that you bring up the point

654
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: that the players are the show. I mean, I've always

655
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: thought that at times the p G A tour can

656
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: come across that they think that they are the show.

657
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: With this constant we provide this opportunity for you, We

658
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: provide all these tournaments. Which is true, you played the tour,

659
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: you had an opportunity to do it. You did not

660
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: start flying around on private jets like Jack and Arnold

661
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: did off of your tour career because you didn't play

662
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: well enough. So this argument that I think sometimes the

663
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: tour puts out that we provide this stage for you,

664
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, I live in Jupiter. There's I see

665
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: guys that played on the PGA Tour at shopping malls,

666
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: grocery stores all the time that are just normal people.

667
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: Now they don't have a tour card anymore. The tour

668
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: isn't calling them to find out how they are, how

669
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: they're doing, anything that we can do to help you.

670
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: If if you get an opportunity to play on the

671
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, you are only successful by what you do

672
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: as a player, nothing else. Well, the tour is driven

673
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: by the star power. There's no doubt about it. My dad,

674
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: my dad had a great day. You were very kind

675
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: to say I didn't play good to make you know how,

676
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: didn't come close to me when I got out there,

677
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: and that was about it. My dad had a great

678
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: line about me. He just called me a hot dog,

679
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: bro And I said that, what why do you call

680
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: me a hot dog? Coach said, it's very simple, but

681
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: you're a tournament. Three old guys sitting behind the green,

682
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: they got their program out and there these great players

683
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: have coming through. So who's in the next group? He said,

684
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: we got Butch Harmon and Joe Jones and Sammy Sauce.

685
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Is not hell? There no good. Let's go get a

686
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: hot dog. Yeah, there's that's all the outdog, bro. But

687
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: the tour is driven by the stars, and the tour

688
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: sometimes thinks it's all about that. Yes, they're the body

689
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: that gives them the opportunity. But I think one of

690
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: the things in this meeting and they talked about I

691
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: think they talked about was I'm a firm believer, but

692
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: everybody that qualifies for tournaments should get paid because here's

693
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: the problem. It's costing your five to ten thousand a

694
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: week to play on these tournaments. And he missed the time,

695
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: you don't get any money. I don't think that's right.

696
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you signed a contract in baseball for four

697
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: hundred million and you've got you still get to four

698
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: hundred millions. So I think that was one of the

699
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: things that we've talked about. Let's make it where everybody

700
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: can at least make some money on this deal. And

701
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: then we I'm sure they talked about we need the

702
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: bigger tournaments with more money and stuff, and and all

703
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the tours found a hundred million and

704
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna find another hundred millions. So

705
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: it's coming from somewhere. But you know, like I said

706
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: to start off with, we'll get this crap all worked out.

707
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: A mention guaranteed money has been something that everybody's talked about.

708
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, the live guys, the big guys, Phil d J,

709
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: Bryson Brooks. Um, they've been given a lot of money. Um.

710
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Some people have a big problem with that. Um. In

711
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 1: sports dad, Um, you know, Lebron James just signed a

712
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: close to two year, hundred million dollar contract. I don't

713
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: think he's going to practice any less. Dak Prescott signed

714
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: a huge new contract last year with the Cowboys. I

715
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: don't think he's taken any days off. It seems to

716
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: me at times that we want golf, especially both professionally

717
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: and recreationally, that we wanted to not evolve, That we

718
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: want it to be like it was back in the day,

719
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, and the forties, fifties, sixties. Um. Frank Nabolos

720
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: said something to me one time about when he used

721
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: to do live from from the PGA Tour, from the Majors, whatever.

722
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: When he would sit with Brandle and UM the guys

723
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: on set, he said, you know, half the time when

724
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: we're at a major championship, we devote half the show

725
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: to talking about things that happened in the past. Why

726
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: don't we spend the majority of the time on the

727
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: show talking about golf today. Guaranteed money is something that

728
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: you know everybody has as an athlete. Um, why do

729
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: you think there has been this outcry of the guys

730
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: that went to Live and people say, oh, you just

731
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: you went for the money. It's guaranteed you're not gonna play,

732
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: You're not going to practice. Where do you think that

733
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: comes from? Just because of the way it's always been. No,

734
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: I I have a very clear way of thinking on this.

735
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: I think the players that went to the Lift, and

736
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna agree with me on this, they

737
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: created the problem because they went for the money. There's

738
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Let's just b s about I'm

739
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: gonna play last and I'm gonna spend more time at home.

740
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: And I said, no, you went for the money. So

741
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: just say that because the average guy that works, if

742
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: somebody is in a job and somebody comes up and said,

743
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you twenty times more money to come

744
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: over here. They're gonna go over there and then they're

745
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna tell their their buddies say, yeah, they offered me

746
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: more money. I went. So that to me, that's the

747
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: first problem. I think the pr of the lift has

748
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: not been good. The guys should have got together and

749
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: be be honest. I think Pat Perez is the only

750
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: one that says, yeah, right, I went for the money

751
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: and forty six, forty seven years old, that offering me

752
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: x y Z I'm going. I think if you asked

753
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Peter you Lind the same thing, he'd say, yeah, I'm

754
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: going And so just come out and say just tell

755
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: it like it is, as we went for the money.

756
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: This I'm going to grow the game better. No, that

757
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it not growing any game.

758
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: They're they're growing their bank accounts, which every sport sportsman

759
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: has the right to do to get the best deal

760
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: you can get. So I have a problem with people

761
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: complaining about that, but I think they brought that on

762
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: themselves by coming up with this other stuff. Secondly, the

763
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: thing that really bothers me is that the public and

764
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I'm pro or anti lib.

765
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: The public is coming out against these live guys because

766
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: it's a Saudi run thing. Our government does Scautity Arabia.

767
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: Every large corporation in the world doesn't Business Society Arabia.

768
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: And so why they're picking on golfers. I have no idea.

769
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: It offers to me have been the most underpaid superstars

770
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: in all sports because they don't get big contracts. Yes,

771
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: they make endorsement contracts, but you have to earn those

772
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: and as soon as you play those go away professional

773
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: athletes they signed these contracts. I mean, the Cleveland Brown

774
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: has just signed a quarterback and pay them almost five

775
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and the money is guaranteed, and and

776
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: he's just he's a SAX offender and could go to jail.

777
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean, so why are you picking on us? The

778
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: office are nice guys. We don't bother anybody. We just

779
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: go play golf. And yeah, the guy had a chance

780
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: to make a hundred million dollars that day. What somebody

781
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: offered me a hundred million dollars, I'm gone, I'm over.

782
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just tell it like it is. Um.

783
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: Another guy that's that's been a part of this controversy.

784
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: Dad Um, who you spent a lot of time with,

785
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: who I think you consider a friend as well, Phil Mickelson.

786
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: Um has been hard to watch Um some of the

787
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: stuff that fills going through because you more than anybody

788
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: who spent you know, as much time almost ten years

789
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: with Phil Um, he can shoot himself in the foot

790
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: better than anybody. Well, it feels very honest. I mean,

791
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: he's got no filter. That's one of the things I

792
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: admired about one thing, one of the reasons we were friends,

793
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: because I've got a lot of that in myself too,

794
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: where we think you don't You don't have a lot

795
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: of filter. What we think is what we say. And

796
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I think in all honestly, I'm gonna get film some credit.

797
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: People didn't like about a lot of things he said

798
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: about the tour. I think we're true, and I think

799
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: the tour is now seen and and they're trying to

800
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: change a lot of that stuff. So you gotta hand

801
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: to feel for that. He has taken a tremendous amount

802
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: of criticism for you know, there's things that have come

803
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: out about him and his personal life that he hasn't

804
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: done it and Hey, look, we all make mistakes. Nobody's perfect,

805
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: all right, yuh, we all make mistakes. There's things in

806
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: our past ist but I think bygones should be gude,

807
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: by God, let the field this go on and be filed.

808
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: Feels about fifty two years old. Now he want to

809
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: met a major fifty one, which is absolutely amazing, one

810
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: of the greatest feats of all time. He had an

811
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to do what he did, to sign for The

812
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: number that I heard was two hundred million. I don't

813
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: know if that's the number of number somebody offers you

814
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars. I'll give damn who you are.

815
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: You're going on, right, and what are the parameters are?

816
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: There's two hundred million? What do I have to do? Yeah,

817
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: I can do that. I can play golf. Now. I

818
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: wish it was playing better, and I know he wishes

819
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: he was playing better, and I know how hard he works.

820
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: He's working at it. So I'd like to see him

821
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: play a little better and be a superstar out there

822
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: on the limb, because right now he's just one of

823
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: the forty eight guys. Do you like, um, tell me

824
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: some of the things you like about what Live is doing.

825
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: And tell me some of the things that you don't like.

826
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I think they made it a lot more relaxed atmosphere. Well,

827
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: obviously the guys already getting paid. The guys are still competitors.

828
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: You know. People say, well then they're not hungry, Sure

829
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: they are. It's four million dollars. First pride, you wait

830
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: for the money, so you're still gonna go for the

831
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: four million. I mean, I like the amount of money

832
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: that they put out there. I don't like it it's

833
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: only forty eight guys. I wish it was more players,

834
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 1: and like, what would be so for you? What would

835
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: be an ideal amount for you? Because we hear about

836
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: lives only forty eight guys, but last week we've got seventy.

837
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: This week we've got thirty tigers event in the Bahamas

838
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: Hero there's eighteen guys in that. The old World Match

839
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: Play that they used to have in London was a

840
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: very limited field. There have always been tournaments done to

841
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: where the fields are limited. I like, I like sixty.

842
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: I think sixty is a good number. I think you,

843
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: I think you could probably still do the shotgown starts

844
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: with sixty. It might be harder to do, but you

845
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: could do that I didn't like the shotgun starts. You

846
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: tell me that the guys love it because they say

847
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: everybody's playing on the same playing field at the same time,

848
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: which is very good. The only problem I have with

849
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: it is, let's say I'm leading the tournament by one

850
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: and you're one behind, and you're finishing on an easy

851
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: hole and I'm finishing on the hardest haul of the

852
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: course and I make boat, you make Bertie, and we

853
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: get a clipped. Now, that hasn't happened, but it could happen.

854
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: You know that that's a possibility. Could happen. The players

855
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: seem to like the shotgowns start because they said they're

856
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: all playing in the same weather, same conditions. Greens are

857
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, everything's the same. So the wind blowing

858
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: the same on every hall, I mean, so they I

859
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: can see where they like that. I would like to

860
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: see sixty players, I think would be good. I don't

861
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: know why they went to three rounds. That's the biggest

862
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: question mark for me. I haven't read anything about why

863
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: they went through. I know that's what l I V

864
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: stands for. Its roll maneubals for fifty four, but a

865
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that Actually, I'm such a

866
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: math genius and that's a but I'd like to see

867
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: him go to sixty. I think he could bring over

868
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: a lot more players get involved. I don't think it's

869
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: a You're never gonna hurt these guys with money, because

870
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: if they need some money, they're just pump another well

871
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: for five minutes and covers the whole tour, so you

872
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: know they're not gonna run out of cash. Uh. But

873
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: the whole live thing, and you know more about this

874
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: than I do, card because you've been out there, You've

875
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: been at every event. You get two players if you

876
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: coach that are on it. Uh. I think we just

877
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: have to see what's gonna happen. I think that the

878
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: governing bodies European Tour, PGA Tour. For me, there's a

879
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: way to coexists and here here, here's my way of Sorright.

880
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: So you you get in a room right now with

881
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: Greg Dorman and Jayme onhand, and someone asks you to

882
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: be the moderator between the two of them. Okay, what

883
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: advice are you given to Greg and what advice are

884
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: you giving to j to try and see if there's

885
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: a way that this whole thing can be less destructive

886
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: and less aggressive than it is. First of all, I'd say,

887
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: later he goes at the door, come in with no

888
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: he goes, So let's come in with an open mind

889
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: and see what we can do to make it better.

890
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: That would be the first thing. The second thing I

891
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I would think if there is a way for the

892
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: European Tour, the PGA Tour Live Tour to get together

893
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: and have four or five huge tournaments either where participants

894
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: from all three get to play. You can you can

895
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: make it a hundredman field and you can do it

896
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: off world ranking. You can do anyway you want to

897
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: do it. I don't care for a two amount of

898
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: money because that's what it's all about. And go to iconic,

899
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: fabulous golf courses around the world and have this true

900
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: world event. Now that's gonna happen. Probably not, because I

901
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: don't think that J Monahan is. He would even go

902
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: to the media at the moment, so I think until

903
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: things calm down, I don't. I've never talked to J

904
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: about it, so you know, I haven't had that opportunity.

905
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: But I would love to see some kind of thing

906
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: get together where it is a world advanta gigantic world

907
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: event not opposed to the majors. The majors will always

908
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: do the majors. They're they're ultimating golf is winning the Major.

909
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: I don't care if you want twenty five tournaments in

910
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: your life. You never want to major. I'm sorry you're

911
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: not considered a great champion. But there's gotta be a

912
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: way that they can coexist. Because but because I said

913
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: to you earlier, it's just like our two political parties

914
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: that the Republican the Democrats are going this way and

915
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: they're not coming this way to try and get together

916
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: and do what's best for the country. And I think

917
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: these two organizations have to get together and do what's

918
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: best for golf. You've got a lot of friends, um,

919
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: that are AUGUSTA members. Um, You've got a lot of friends, Dad,

920
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: that are real Augusta members. There are members that Augusta

921
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: and then there are people that are part of the

922
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: They are the gate keepers of Augusta National, the Masters,

923
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: and they are part of the gate keepers of professional

924
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: golf as as the governing bodies. UM. Knowing the way

925
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: that Augusta and the Masters like to run their tournaments, um,

926
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: you you, I know you believe they run their tournament.

927
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: The Masters is the best run golf tournament. It's the

928
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: best run sporting event in sports. You've you've always had.

929
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: Where do you think they shake out on this? Because

930
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: currently you've got Phil, You've got DJ you've got Patrick Red,

931
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: you've got Cheryl schwaltzel um am I missing any Masters champions, Sergio,

932
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: that's five. They've got fun. The last thing they want

933
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: is the champions dinner and the picture that you know,

934
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: you've got a picture in your office, your your your

935
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: father was part of the first Champions official champions dinner

936
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: in the fifties and and he was part of that,

937
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: right and there's you've got a great picture in your office.

938
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: The last thing that I think the powers that be

939
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: in Augusta want. He's an asterisk where these great champions,

940
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean feels not only in Augusta champion. I mean

941
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: he's a multiple Masters winner, Bubba Watson, who's now going

942
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: to live, he's six, He's won that tournament twice. Um.

943
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to see a tournament where

944
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: they're champions. I don't think they want to be taking

945
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: names off the name plates in the in the champions

946
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: locker room view. No, and I don't think that's gonna happen. Look,

947
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the augusted members. You know,

948
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: they don't talk about what goes on there. It's very

949
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: guarded and how who knows what's happening. I think they

950
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: love tradition as much as any tournament, and having a

951
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: former player for former champions there has always been one

952
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: of their great traditions. My whole life, I've been going

953
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: there because my dad was a farmer champion. I think,

954
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: what's going to happen unless there's a way that the

955
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: live players can get world rankings once they fall out

956
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: of the top five world and they're not on the

957
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: way that you can get in, and then that's going

958
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: to be a problem for the players he can't get in.

959
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: I think the champions will always be invited back. I

960
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: don't foresee then there's six of them over there, so

961
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't see for them doing I think the tour

962
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: taking these guys names off of the all time lists

963
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, that's very petty. It's chowish. It's like, Okay,

964
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: we're in the we're in the playyard, and the guy's

965
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: got all the toys and we want to play with

966
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: him and gets mad at me, and he picks all

967
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: those toys up and leaves and you can't have any

968
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I relate that. I think it's

969
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: very childish the way they've done that. These guys earn

970
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: the right Look, let's use Philip Bikerson for example. Bill

971
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Michelson's one what six majors, six mates, six majors, forty

972
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: five tournaments. He's a tour member for life, for life,

973
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: all before the lift. How can you take that away?

974
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: He gave it to him. He's a toy member for life.

975
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: You tell me can't be one because he went he

976
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: took his toy is away from your play are and

977
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: your little piste off about it. No, I don't like that.

978
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: That's why I say I think there's too much petty

979
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: stuff going on. And I don't think Augusta will get involved. Man.

980
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: I think Augusta is Augusta. They will run their tournament

981
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: and it is the best runs point event in the world.

982
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: They will run it the way they like to run it.

983
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: They'll run it with class the top fifty in the

984
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: world or a tournament winner on the PGA Tour and

985
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: gets in the Masters. That will always be the way

986
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: it is and if you're not in the top fifty

987
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: in the world, that's your problem. But the former champions,

988
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: I think will always be allowed. Do you think, um,

989
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: do you think there's a way that the Live guys

990
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: and the Live Tour get World ranking points so that

991
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to play in this because listen, UM,

992
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: it's a vote. But if you look at the people

993
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: that are voting on the world rankings, UM, you Live

994
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a seat at that table. Some of the

995
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: other governing bodies do. That has a lot of seatson.

996
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: It's funny. We were in Portland at the Living It

997
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: Do and UM, you know, as you mentioned, it's very

998
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: weird for me because this year I was working you know,

999
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: I've been working with DJ, I been working with Pat Perez,

1000
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: and I was working with Garrick Kego, the young South

1001
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Africa Ken. Garrick was on the PGA tour. UM, DJ

1002
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: and Pat made the decision to go to Live, and

1003
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to figure out how I

1004
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: was going to bounce back and forth and so Um,

1005
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: the Monday of the first Live event in London, UM

1006
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: Garret the young kids said listen, you know, I'm just

1007
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: going to kind of go back to doing my own thing.

1008
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: And so so it's not that I'm I don't want

1009
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: to go back on the PGA Tour. It's just the

1010
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: guys that I'm working with right now or on the

1011
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: Live tour. So it's where that you know, like we're

1012
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: hired guns, right, we go where the work is. Um,

1013
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: we we have to go where the players are. But

1014
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm just if you think there's a way that they

1015
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: can get world ranking points and so that we can

1016
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: have more competition, um, rightly or wrongly, I think some

1017
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: of the things that Greg has talked about in the

1018
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: past about trying to get the best players in the

1019
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: world together more often. I mean you've you've talked about it,

1020
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: you know, privately with me for a long time. There's

1021
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: too many damn tournaments on the PGA Tour. I mean,

1022
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: so in in an ideal world for you, you know,

1023
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: we've got almost forty What do we have over forty

1024
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: tournaments on the page for you? What would be a

1025
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: good number of p g A Tour events twenty five thirty? Well,

1026
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: first of all, let's let's go to the fifty top

1027
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: fifty in the world. As long as the live is

1028
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: playing fifty four holes, They're never going to get any

1029
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: world right before, So they gotta go to seventy two

1030
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: holes because they got the apples to apples, you can't

1031
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: play less holes, and so that's the first thing that

1032
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: would have to happen. Uh. Second of all, I don't

1033
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: know what what what you can do to make what

1034
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: you were just talking about happen. Have they pulled your

1035
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: credentials p A Tour taking your credential away from you?

1036
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Or will you get one next year? That would be interesting.

1037
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: You know, they haven't pulled my credential. But normally, I

1038
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: mean we're one week away, so the PGA Tour season

1039
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: starts in three week. I mean when when they do

1040
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: the wrap around? What a week or two weeks after normally?

1041
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: At this point I need to go through my emails

1042
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 1: and look is normally I would have gotten a critical

1043
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: just the PJ Tour has no idea that I'm no

1044
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: longer working with garat Kego. I mean, I've got a

1045
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: credential on the PGA Tour. I could go to the

1046
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: Tour Championship today with my credential. Um, I haven't heard anything.

1047
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: I've heard some rumors um that one of the South

1048
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 1: African caddies. Um, that was caddying on the Champions Tour.

1049
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: I've heard some rumors that maybe his credential. I just

1050
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you you said that earlier. It is really

1051
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: it seems petty. It seems like you the guys you

1052
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: know in pont of Bed should be worried about trying

1053
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: to figure out a solution as opposed to trying to

1054
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: pull people credential. Were in Portland for the second Live

1055
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: event and that's when they pulled DJ off the all

1056
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: time money list. You know, DJ was third in all

1057
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: time money, you know, seventy seventy three thousand, seventy three

1058
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: million dollars seventy four million dollars or whatever it is.

1059
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: And somebody said something to him, and no joke true.

1060
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: DJ goes yeah. I mean it's kind of I mean,

1061
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: it's kind of petty, but he goes bro. I don't care.

1062
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: It's not like I don't have the money. Yeah, it's just,

1063
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think there's just I'm gonna say it

1064
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: for the third time. This is the last time. It

1065
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: reminds me of politics in our country. Both parties were

1066
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: probably Democrats going away from each other instead of coming

1067
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: towards each other. All they talked about is how bad

1068
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: the other person is not. Let's fix this. Fix that.

1069
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: They've got to come together. There has to be a

1070
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: meeting of the ways. There has to be put your

1071
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: egos aside, let's make this thing work. And I think

1072
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: the Tiger meeting was probably the start of it. I

1073
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I said, I know some of the

1074
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: guys that were there, but they're not talking about what

1075
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: went down. The Tiger meeting was probably the start of that.

1076
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Let's have a players meeting, Let's see what we need

1077
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: to do here. Let's all get on the same page.

1078
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: Any of you want to go to Live, you know,

1079
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: that's fine. I know Tiger has mentioned that before that

1080
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: he's not a fan of Live, but he doesn't hold

1081
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: it against anybody to win because you you know, gone

1082
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: for a chance to make a lot of money. He

1083
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: he didn't need the billion dollars. He's already you're talking.

1084
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny you talk about, you know, Tiger

1085
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: talking about where's guaranteed money? Where's the incentive? I mean, listen,

1086
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean you and I'm at Tiger on the same day.

1087
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: I think he's the greatest golfer of all time. Um,

1088
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: but there isn't a player currently playing that had more

1089
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: guaranteed cash. I mean you, you, you helped. You flew

1090
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: to Tiger's first event as a pro with him on

1091
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: a G four fifty on a private jet. He was

1092
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: flying on a private jet from day one. This is

1093
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: a guy that's had guaranteed money before he turned pro, right,

1094
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: and it sure as hell didn't keep him from not

1095
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: being the greatest player of all time. He made more

1096
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: money than anybody. Yeah, I disagree with the people that

1097
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: say that there's no one sentive to win. A professional

1098
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: golfer wants to win. They have a self pride. They're

1099
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: not going to just go out there and let themselves

1100
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: go and not do their training and not or can

1101
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: shoot bad scores. No, that that's not who they are.

1102
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: They want to win. And I think there's a motivational

1103
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: factor there because this has been thrown around a lot.

1104
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: To those forty eight guys that are playing there, they're

1105
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, wait, but we're gonna show you what

1106
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: we can do. I'm gonna stick to this right back up,

1107
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: bed around like you've been trying to figure it out. Mine.

1108
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: So this is going to motivate me to even work

1109
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: harder and play better. So you know, I don't. You know,

1110
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: I can understand because it's kind of like a corporate

1111
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: outing atmosphere with the parties, and I don't get the

1112
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: music and but all that that's going on, and the

1113
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: guys are more relaxed, and hey, these are professionals. They

1114
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: have pride. They don't want to go out there and

1115
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: make a food out of himself and look bad. I

1116
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: guarantee it. Phil Mickelson is not happy with himself the

1117
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: way he's been playing. And if I don't know what

1118
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: Bill is doing now, because I haven't talked to him,

1119
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: changed his phone numbers, so I don't have his phone

1120
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: number anymore. If I did, I'm guaranteed and I talked

1121
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: to him, he working his tail off because he doesn't

1122
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: like to put playing bad and looking like a bad player.

1123
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's like said. So I think it's an incentive almost

1124
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: a thing that they can use to motivate themselves. They

1125
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: even get better and see better scores. Yeah, I think

1126
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: I sent it to you. Somebody made up a mock

1127
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: up that if there was a live versus the PGA

1128
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Tour Ryder Cup kind of format right now, you get

1129
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: Greg Norman as the captain of the live guys, you

1130
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: get Tigers the captain of the um the PGA Tour.

1131
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: And if you look at kind of how it could

1132
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: play out with the stars, um, you know for years

1133
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup. Um, Yeah, the guys liked each other.

1134
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean didn't some of some of the guys didn't

1135
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: like it. But there wasn't real real beef in the

1136
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: Ryder Cup, right I mean it wasn't. If there was

1137
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup type format now with live versus the

1138
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, if they did it next year, I mean,

1139
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: there's real beef. There's a bunch of guys right now

1140
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: on one side they're saying they don't like these guys.

1141
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: The captains don't like each other. I mean it could

1142
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 1: be it could be really really interesting to watch. Yeah,

1143
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: and and and if there was a playoff, you'd have

1144
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: to have a US you have see uh stadium set

1145
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: up so they can side it out you want to

1146
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: do And I'm betting on Greg. And that's fight Greg

1147
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: versus man of hand. Now that's not much of the sight. Um. Lastly, Dad,

1148
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: you're coming up next week on a or at the

1149
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: end of the end of this week, monument almost a

1150
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: monumental birthday, seventy nine years old. It's Um, You've had

1151
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: a hell of a life and a hell of a career. Um,

1152
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: what still motivates you? Now? I know you still work

1153
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: with you know players. You know you work with Gary Woodland,

1154
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: you work with Daniel Kaye, you work with Matt McNeely.

1155
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: I think you've done a hell of a job with

1156
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: with Harold Varner. Um you're still doing work with Web Sinson.

1157
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: But what at this stage of your life, Dad, you

1158
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: could I mean, you don't have to work, you can

1159
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. What still motivates you to work

1160
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: with these players? And and what's that like at your age?

1161
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: I love, I love to be around great players. I

1162
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: love to watch him, I love to see what they do.

1163
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: I love to learn from him. I love to teach,

1164
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't teach so much to

1165
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: the normal players anymore because they kind of wore me

1166
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: out with bad swing. But I still I love the game.

1167
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: I love being around the game, I love being in it.

1168
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm very frustrated that my game at the moments not

1169
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: real good. You know how hard I am on myself

1170
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. So I still try and

1171
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: practice and work on different things. I got delete to

1172
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: give me a lesson that you give me a lesson.

1173
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just turning into Curtis Strange. I think, I

1174
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: think if I go, because I just I just want

1175
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: to play. The only good thing I can say about

1176
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: being seventy nine is that much easier to shoot my

1177
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: age one shot lower. I gotta shoot. I've done it

1178
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: ever since I was sixty six. So you go, what

1179
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: what tease do you play for them? I like to

1180
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: play it about sixty two hundred, sixty three hundred. How

1181
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: far are you carrying it in the air with the

1182
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: driver right now? Maybe two fifteen. I always tell people

1183
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: they say, how do you how are you playing these days?

1184
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: Which I said, you know, I got a great short

1185
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: game to go, really said. The trouble is it's with

1186
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: my driver, doesn't doesn't? I mean? And I don't think

1187
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: people realize this about you. I know it pisces you

1188
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: off that you don't hit the golf ball further at

1189
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: your age. I know it just it drives you crazy.

1190
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: I try, I try to try to hit it further

1191
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: and try, you know, I just want to get the

1192
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: best out of what I got. You know, I'm at

1193
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: the test center a couple of times in the past

1194
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: months and trying the new drivers. You know, can they

1195
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: say they go three to five hole an hour faster.

1196
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what machine you're testing that on. Right

1197
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: with my swing, I get you that at an eight

1198
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: mile an hour coverage, and I have it, gonna throw

1199
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: it out there very far. I just played to have fun,

1200
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: and I planned with my buddies. I planned a few

1201
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Membory guests a year with good friends of mine. Uh,

1202
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm playing to Wingfoot's Memory Guests and in October,

1203
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. I always playing the Flaridian

1204
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: one I play. You know, I've got I can playing

1205
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: membery time to compete, you know, and I no different

1206
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: than any golfer. I don't like that shots That shots

1207
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: kissed me off because my problem is my mind knows

1208
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm trying to do, and my body is

1209
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: looking at me said, who the hell are you kids kidding? No, man,

1210
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: you can't do that. So I gotta the way of

1211
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: doing things. Billy, Billy kind of helped me a lillly.

1212
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: You helped me once down to flow. So I got

1213
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: a lot of information flying about the problem with me

1214
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: is I do none of the things I tell all

1215
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: my players to do. I don't work out, I don't stretch,

1216
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't eat right, you know, I just I'm just me.

1217
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: And then then I have to go out there and perform,

1218
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, and you have to work at it. But

1219
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: the game is the beating of this game is like

1220
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: I got me seventy nine. It's I can still play golf.

1221
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: I can still enjoy myself. As you know, I became

1222
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: a member of my favorite course in the whole World

1223
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: warld County down just over there. I'm just gonna ask you,

1224
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: you got to take a you know, it is your

1225
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: favorite course. You'd wanted to be a member there forever.

1226
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Dunn, Um it was an AUGUSTA member and run seminal.

1227
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: He helped you get in. UM. Why don't you tell

1228
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: once you tell us about you took a special golf

1229
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: trip that I know, UM was something that that that

1230
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: was pretty unique in what you were able to do well.

1231
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: We I became a member of two thousand and nineteen

1232
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: and then COVID came. You know, I was over there

1233
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: with some friends of mine and two that of the

1234
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: nineteen before I made a member. It is my favorite

1235
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: golf course, but I think World County Down and it's

1236
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: the final scoff coution. I love the place. It's a

1237
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: great membership, great course. Uh so I never got to

1238
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: go COVID handed the trip that was organized by Jimmy

1239
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: Dunn and Stan Drucken Miller, a bunch of Augusta members

1240
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: who are good friends of mine, who happened to all

1241
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: the members at the Royal County Down. They decided to

1242
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: come out. We gotta take a bunch over for his

1243
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: first time in the Royal County Down, and so you

1244
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: know it was, it was so so so let me

1245
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: let me set this. Let me set the sea middle seat,

1246
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: uh middle seat on on a on a budget airline

1247
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: and you you have like fifty five or six stops. Yeah,

1248
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: we had an eighty in dollar global brand new one

1249
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: bla blahs that you could hit wedges inside this plane.

1250
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: We could have putting contests. Uh yeah. I had a

1251
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: good seat sitting right next to my man stand rock

1252
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: A Miller whose plane it was. You think I'm gonna

1253
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: get far away from him, You're crazy. And we had

1254
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: a wonderful time. We stayed right there at the hotel

1255
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: at the course. We went up and played Port Rush

1256
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: and then we came back down and then played three

1257
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: rounds and well kind of down. It was a quick trip.

1258
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: It was like a four day trip. And then we

1259
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: were back and it was Man, if you're donn't go

1260
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: and you know, somebody's got one of those hop on

1261
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: that damn thanks that is that is a unique situation

1262
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: that um, most people listening can only dream of. Uh

1263
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: about this cause when we landed over there and they

1264
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: take you out to this private area to depart the

1265
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: plane and everything, you know, that's this new Global. It's gigantic.

1266
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: It's a big airplane and guys there, and you know

1267
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: how it is because I've done a sky for twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. Comes this big plane landing and this guy

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: that's in there bringing them in like this and bringing

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Speaker 1: them in and okay, that's good kind of Um. The

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01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: stairs come up and okay, here's they pulled this bus

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Speaker 1: up and get all our stuff and get there and

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01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: there there are these two guys out there. They were, well,

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01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: they're taking care of the planet, isn't I had all

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01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: these guys in a billionaires getting off this plane, and

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01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: these two guys say, Mr Harmon, please can we have

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Speaker 1: a picture with you in front of your plane? I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Druk love that he was gonna be crapped

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01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: the whole time about it, said, where do I send

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Speaker 1: a fuel bills? You don't want that thing. I think

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Speaker 1: you had a lot of great things to say, and

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01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: and hopefully, um hopefully, like you said, I think maybe

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01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: everybody can put on both sides, can put their egos aside,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, try and figure this thing out,

1285
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: because hopefully next time we talk to you will have

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01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: seen some progress and maybe a little less chaos. Well,

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01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: I would hope that. I hope. I hope they get

1288
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: together and let's let's stop fighting and let's try and

1289
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: make this work free enterprise. It's just that that's what

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01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: our country has founded on, that you have the right

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: to try and do whatever you can do and do

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01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: the best for you and your family, which I think

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: is what the guys that are over live we're doing.

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01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: I just hope they all get together, and I'm very

1295
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: curious to see how many more jump over there with you.

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01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: So I think there's gonna be some big names, You're

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01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it and we'll see what happens. Well, I

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: will give you an update um from Boston, and uh

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Speaker 1: really looking forward um to the Tour Championship this week. Um.

1300
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of good players playing some

1301
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: really really good golf late in the season. UM. I

1302
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: think it'd be a hell of a story with all

1303
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: of the guys. If can't they can win again. If

1304
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, Scotty Scheffler can win it, um, and maybe

1305
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: somebody comes out of the pack, who knows, you know, Claude,

1306
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: our good friend Adams. Scott got in there with a

1307
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: great last man. I'm so happy for Scott and got

1308
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: he made a great, great bunker shot on a seventy

1309
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: second holding get the last spot, the thirtieth spot. So

1310
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: happy for him because he's a great guy. And hey,

1311
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: hang in there, let's let's let's hope that we can

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: get something done here and everybody get along together and

1313
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: dal stop. We don't need we don't need the w

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: W E and golf. We just good, good players, good

1315
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: scores take care of a lot of things. Congratulations on

1316
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: all your success. I'm really proud of you, Quoudy, And

1317
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: now how hard you worked at what you do. And

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01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: you you're a wonderful young man and young what you're

1319
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: fifty something, you know, you three, you're young to mate.

1320
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: But I'm really proud of you. I love you, Thank you,

1321
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for coming on. You got it.

1322
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: So that was butch harmon and listen, you're always gonna

1323
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: get great takes from my dad. He's been around the

1324
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: game his entire life, and I thought he had some

1325
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: really really interesting things to say. Listen, UM, my dad

1326
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: loves golf. Golf is his life. And uh, he mentioned

1327
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: he's going to be turning seventy nine in a few days.

1328
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: And um, we've had private conversations about what's going on, um,

1329
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: what's happening in the professional game. And you know, I'm

1330
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be a part of the professional game,

1331
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: both on the PGA Tour, on the Live Tour and

1332
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 1: all around the world. And UM, I thought that, you know,

1333
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: my dad had some great ideas that if if everybody could,

1334
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, quit going to these extreme opposites and meet

1335
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: in the middle, I think the game would be a

1336
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: better place. Hopefully, uh, there will be some solutions and

1337
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: hopefully things will um die down and you know, a

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: year from now maybe things look a lot different. So

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: no questions this week, but uh next week. The recent

1340
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: Open champion Ashley Bouhai, who played just an amazing round

1341
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: of golf, big playoff win and she wins her first

1342
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: major and it was really cool to talk to her

1343
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: about that journey, uh, from South Africa to being now

1344
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: a major champion. And we've got some really really good

1345
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: guests lines up for the future. Keep going to my

1346
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: social Twitter Instagram. We'll be putting up um questions, be

1347
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: asking who you want to hear on the podcast. But

1348
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: really really excited to launch the new podcast. Want to

1349
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: thank everybody for listening. The Son of a Butch podcast

1350
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: will come to you every Wednesday. We will see you

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Speaker 1: next week.