1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh a great time. Watch Steve Lasper shuts down down time. 2 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of One Bill's Lives Chief Task. 3 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Along with Chris Brown, we're here from noon till three 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: with you today. Thanks for joining us. A lot going 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: on in the National Football League. We're keeping track of it. 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: It's training camps are just getting started. You've all seen it. 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Players are going in getting tested, then showing up and 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: trying of starting to meet and get acclimated to the 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: new normal that they are in the inside the NFL 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: buildings around the league. Chris Brown, you and I are 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: here to watch it all happen. And it's been We 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: were on pins and needles yesterday trying to keep up 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: with all the guys that we're starting to opt out, 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: and uh now we're getting into the little nitty gritties 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: of how they're going to be designated, are they voluntary, 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: are they high risk? What's it gonna mean to their contracts. 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: You've also got guys getting signed to new contracts, Joey 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: Bosa the Chargers signing a new deal as well. So 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. It was happening at a 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: breakneck pace yesterday. I don't expect that today from the 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: opt out perspective, although I suppose we could have a 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: few more who knows. But the Bosa deal, Yeah, I 23 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's surprising that he got that money. I 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: think the timing of it might have caught some people 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: off guard because I think with this anticipation of the 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: cap being significantly lower in twenty twenty one, it certainly 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: complicates the math that you got to put together for 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: a long term deal like this. But the Chargers found 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: a way to get it done. And there are gonna 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: be other teams that are gonna have to probably do 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: the same with players that are due to get a 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: big second contract, not the least of which is the Bills, right, 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: And they've got guys starting to line up. And you've 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: got a team like the Bills where you've got you've 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: had some decent success, particularly you're getting up towards a 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: handful of years of success. Last three years, two out 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of the three years they were in the playoffs. That 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: took a step backward in twenty eighteen with a rookie quarterback, 39 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: but their defense was still playing stellar football and uh 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: and it looks to continue that trend through this season 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: as well. So you got guys that are starting to 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: line up from their rookie contracts, and you look around 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: the league. We we're just talking just before we came 44 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: on the air. It's better to sign people earlier than 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: to wait. The price goes nothing but up in the 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: National Football League. And I think it was interesting with 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: the It was a kind of a unicorn contract. The 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes deal, a five hundred million dollar contract. It it 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: boggles your mind, but it really don't. They don't have 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to start paying him for another two or three years, 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: and the real money doesn't come until twenty twenty seven. 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: So it's a different kind of contract structure. And it'll 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: be interesting to see if any other teams take that 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: queue and if any other players do that for their 55 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: team as well, because I don't think there's any question 56 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes did the chiefs of favor by I'm not getting 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: all of his money right up front. Yeah, And you know, 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are in a class hunto themselves. I think you know, 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the Bills, the first guy in 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: line is probably true devious White here. And then you 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: have other members of the twenty seventeen draft class that 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: are going to have to be considered for extensions as well, 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano chief among them. So you know, 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: it's a situation where the Bills are going to have 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: to decide do we do it early or do we 66 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: let this most unusual of seasons play out. And the 67 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: reason I say that is you got contracts that will toll, 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: and but you put on pause if this season is 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: canceled for any reason after three games, four games, five games, 70 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: what have you? And you have to believe to a 71 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: certain extent that is having an impact on the thought 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: processes of general managers around the league who are in 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: a position where they know at some point they're going 74 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: to have to sign some cornerstone players on rookie deals 75 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: too pricey second contracts. But how much does this kind 76 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: of serve as a fly in the ointment, this uncertainty 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: surrounding the twenty twenty season, and how far they will 78 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: get into it before maybe someone's season, be it a 79 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: team or two, has to be put on pause if 80 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: there's an outbreak, or if the whole league has to 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: make a very difficult decision. I have to believe it's 82 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: part of the equation here going forward. Yeah, it's got 83 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: to be in the conversation, and I think the clubs, 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: particularly one with a culture like the Bills. I mean, 85 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: all clubs would do it, but it's easy to project, 86 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, your own warm, fuzzy feelings for your own team, 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: you know towards you know, the spin it in the 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: best way possible. But you can see the Bill is 89 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: approaching a guy like Tredavious White, even Tremaine Edmunds, Josh 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Allen and for that matter, we've had the conversation about 91 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean. All these guys are lining 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: up and it's like the club going to him, say, listen, guys, 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: rough year the pandemic, we love you, we want to 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: keep keep you work with us on the time, and 95 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: we may get late in your contract before we get 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: to you, but there's no question we want you around, 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and the cap will be more foreseeable by the time 98 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: we get to it and get you know, give us 99 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: a little help. And I don't have to think that 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: players would have a hard time getting to that point. Certainly, 101 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: everybody wants a new contract, particularly a second contract in 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: the NFL, because it's always going to be an enormous 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: pay raise from where they were because you have to 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: play well to get it. So I think most players 105 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: would listen to that argument. Provided I mean, and then 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I say that most teams would do that, then you've 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: got the Jets pulling the ripcord on their best defensive 108 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: player in Jamal Adams and trading him for a boatload 109 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: of it's no question. Yeah, but you know some teams 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: and like I said yesterday, Brannie, they're all different. These 111 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: teams are all similar, but they're vastly different most teams, 112 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: and I think the Bills would do this would be extremely, 113 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: extremely honest. So you listen, we're gonna, we're gonna franchise. 114 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: We don't have any we're still thinking about it with you. Yeah, 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: I think. I think Brandon Bean has been that way 116 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: since he's been in Buffalo as the general manager. I mean, 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: he's shot everybody straight, and I think players, even if 118 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: it's not the news they want to hear, would rather 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: have it given to him straight than you know, somebody 120 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: given them a line. And I think, you know, Brandon 121 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: Bean is well aware of that, which is why he 122 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: operates the way he does. And perfect example is what 123 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: happened with Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson in the offseason. 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he basically said, you know, we have a 125 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: set value on what we feel Jordan Phillips and or 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson are worth to us as free agents, and 127 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: we also know that they have the right to go 128 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: out there and see if they can exceed that value 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: with some other club. So he didn't he said, look, 130 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: we've got a value on these guys, but I'm not 131 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: going to hold a grudge if they can do better 132 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: than that somewhere else. And I think Brandon being said 133 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: that with the anticipation that they would be able to 134 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: do better somewhere else. But at least he's given them 135 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: his honest assessment. Hey, this is where our club values 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: you as a contributor to this team in terms of 137 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: price tag. If you feel you can beat that on 138 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: the open market, that is your prerogative and I wish 139 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you the best of luck in doing it. And here's 140 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: the problem with that, though, Brownie, you get a guy 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: like Tredavious White, and across the league, you've got a 142 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: guy like Jalen Ramsey, You've got a guy like Steph Gilmore. 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: You've got all these guys, these other cornerbacks, Marcus Lottimore, 144 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: who are lined up to get paid if those guys 145 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: set the market and Tredevius Weiss just says two words, 146 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: me too, and thus Lee prices him self out of 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: the value the bills have for him. Could you see 148 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: a scenario where Tardavious White, you know, gets franchised or 149 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the club just says, hey, listen, we love you, we 150 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: can't pay that. That's not what we're going to pay 151 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: a starting corner and we'll see you later somehow or other, 152 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Tardavious White's time in Buffalo comes to an end. That's 153 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: if you're gonna stay inside the lines financially, you have 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to be willing to do that at some point. I'm 155 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: not saying the bills are any This is a part 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: of the conversation. We're talking hypothetical here, of course. But 157 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: you teams like like the New England Patriots, they have 158 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: said goodbye to a lot of really good players because 159 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: they just priced themselves away, and a lot of their players, 160 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, have taken less than market value in 161 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: order to stay well. I don't care how well you 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: manage the camp as a general manager in this league, 163 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. At some point in time, 164 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: especially if you have a franchise quarterback on your roster 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: who you're paying giant money, You're gonna get to a 166 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: point where you cannot keep everybody. I mean, if you 167 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: draft well and you want to resign your own and 168 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: you're doing well draft and talent, there's going to come 169 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: a point in time where you're not simply not able 170 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: to keep everybody that you want to keep and pay 171 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: fair market value to the satisfaction of each and every 172 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: one of those players. So, you know, I think the 173 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: benefits here are as follows. The Bills have bought themselves 174 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: some time with Trudebus White signing him to the fifth 175 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: year option, So they've bought themselves some time, maybe to 176 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: let the dust settle in a pandemic riddled season that 177 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: may or may not see sixteen games played. But then again, 178 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: I look at Brandon Bean's history in signing people to extensions. 179 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: When does it usually happen? Happens in August. Usually happens 180 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: in August, whether it was Eric Wood during the preseason, 181 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: they redid Stephen Haushka's deal in August, And I think 182 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: there's a couple of other examples that are slipping my mind. 183 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: Right now. Well, a lot of guys have renegotiated. Star 184 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Lutu lead redid his deal, right, But I'm saying this 185 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: time of years specifically is when they have signed guys 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: to sizeable extensions in the past. Like one of the 187 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: things that h is the guy I was thinking about 188 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: he was in August. Well, one of the reasons for 189 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: those mechanics, Brownie, is this guys get into training camp, 190 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: coaches and gms and scouts start to look at their 191 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: roster and realize that the value of the guy that 192 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: they're paying that money to has changed. And you know 193 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: what else, the guy realizes it too. Um, they can 194 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: they can look at him say listen, this we like 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: this guy. Aj Epanessa is playing great Trent Murphy, and 196 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: if you want to be on the team and contribute, 197 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to restructure your deal. Um that you 198 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. U. The writing just gets 199 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: to be on the wall and they can go to 200 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: the player and say, listen, we think you need to 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: redo your deal if you want to go out now. 202 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: And in August is perfect. Rosters are set, so a 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be out of work, he's gonna be 204 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: ready for training camp, come in all gung ho to play. 205 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: The season's getting off. Then he rits out and sees 206 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: the riding on the wall the club approach and says, hey, 207 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to restructure your deal because we don't 208 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: think your contribution is going to be what we thought 209 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: it was, because of the way the roster shook out, 210 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: because of the talent around you, because of whatever reason, 211 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: because of your age. You don't look as good as 212 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: this other guy. We don't look as good as you 213 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: think you should. You can restructure your deal, and when 214 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: you restructure it, it's kind of like saying you kind 215 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: of think one hundred percent you're gonna make the team. 216 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna get that money this year, right so then 217 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: or you can say, you know what, I'm gonna try 218 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and go out on the open market when everybody's roster 219 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: is almost set and think I'm gonna make this money 220 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: this year for some anybody else. That's a real big 221 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: question for a lot of guys because you don't know 222 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: what other you know teams. Situation is, are there other 223 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: teams out there? Maybe there is a handful or less 224 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: than usually a less than a handful brownie of teams. 225 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: You can name off the top of your head. That's like, 226 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll bet they'd love to have a 227 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: guy like Trent Murphy, you know, or I love they'd 228 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: love to have a guy like, you know, Harrison Phillips, 229 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: or you can pick your These are hypothetical on I'm 230 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: picking them out of a hat, you know what I'm saying. 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: So those are guys like with with those kind of contracts, 232 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: who would look around and say, you know what, I'd 233 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: rather have a guaranteed spot on this roster with this team, 234 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: knowing that they're a good team, than going out and 235 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: try and find another place to land just for four 236 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: the next four months. You know, it's not it's it's 237 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: that's one of the mechanisms of going doing these get 238 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: deals in August, right. Um, I just know that there's 239 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: no question that tradevious White should be at the front 240 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: of the line here. Oh yeah, with respect to the 241 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: people on this roster. And I just wonder how they're 242 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna play this one because this is gonna be top 243 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: tier type money. And does that make the conversation different, 244 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Does that make the negotiation period different? I mean we 245 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: don't know that. I mean they could be talking now 246 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: or they could be talking next week, or maybe they'll 247 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: wait until the offseason. We don't know when or if 248 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff's gonna happen, um, but we know 249 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: on the other side of the country there's a cornerback 250 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: with the La Rams that's looking for big money plays 251 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: the same position. So here's the thing too. Say the 252 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: say the club, say the club does sign Tas White 253 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: to a deal, and it seems like submarket or whatever. 254 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: It says guaranteed whatever, whatever, and he's making you know, 255 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: umpteen million dollars a year, and they say, you're a guy. 256 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: You know, we got the deal. You got the deal, 257 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: you're liking it. The only time that would come back 258 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: to bid them is if they signed somebody who's not 259 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: as good as Tradavious White to more money, or they 260 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: give somebody of a lesser value to the club a 261 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: big deal and Todavious is sitting over there gonna wait 262 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, I'm all pro, 263 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: and you're gonna give Charlie sixpack that deal. You know, 264 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: that's the only time it'll come to bite you, and 265 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: a club will say, and now the club subsequently can 266 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: telts Charlie sixpack. Hey, we're printing all pro corner this. 267 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: We're not paying you that, you know, so they've got 268 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: that to lean on as well. But sometimes it happens 269 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: where somebody signed, somebody on the team signs a deal, 270 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, and got like Trenevious White says, 271 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: wait a minute, seriously, you know that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, 272 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: and Jordan you know, And it's not like they haven't 273 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: addressed the secondary. I mean, Jordan Poyer got an extension 274 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: earlier this offseason, so you know, he got a two 275 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: year extension and you know, he's done everything right since 276 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: he's been in Buffalo. But you can say the same 277 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: thing about Trey, so logic would say that that's he's 278 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: next on the agenda. That's just the big question is when. 279 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: And again, the Bills are in there's no need for 280 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: them to rush right now because, as we said, they 281 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: signed them to a fifth year option. They've bought themselves 282 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: some time. It's not like we get to the end 283 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: of this season and it's like, oh my god, they 284 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: better get him done. They have time to work with here. 285 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: And again, we're dealing in a supremely unusual forthcoming regular 286 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: season with this pandemic too, so I'm sure that complicates matters, 287 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: but still, in all I think it's it's something to 288 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: just keep an eye on as we go forward here, 289 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: knowing Brandon Bean's history of getting extensions done in August, 290 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: so I'm just kind of curious. Yeah, and it's interesting 291 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: too because you can sit here as a player and 292 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to back away as a player and 293 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: remove yourself from it because you do. You are motivated 294 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: to play, You are motivated to be as good as 295 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: you can be, and you new, No, it's a competitive 296 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: field that you're standing on. But by all intents and purposes, 297 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: let's not forget the two years left on tradevious White's 298 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,479 Speaker 1: rookie deal are completely guaranteed. Yeah, I mean completely guaranteed. 299 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: That fifth year option is no question. He's going to 300 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: see that or and more probably because they'll sign him 301 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: to the extension. Yeah, So he does have that in 302 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: his back pocket, and so do so do other players 303 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: on this roster. There's no way they're doing anything, you know, 304 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: they're Matt Milano is going to be here right to 305 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the end of his contract, and Steve we should wou'd 306 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't mention this because today is 307 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: what should have been the first day of practice of 308 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: regular training camp. I mean, players are showing up and 309 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: getting tested right now as they report to camp, but 310 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: this would have been day one of practice under the 311 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: normal schedule. But obviously that is not happening with the 312 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: new negotiations struck between the league and the union and 313 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: how they won't even start padded practices until the seventeenth. 314 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they'll have non padded type practice sessions prior 315 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: to that. When those begin still remains to be seen 316 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: as they're finalizing schedules in the like. But we're here, man, 317 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: We're just about here at football. So that's why we 318 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: threw up the Twitter poll that we did today, right, 319 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: That's right, And if you want to get it on 320 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: the Twitter pool, you can. We put it out there 321 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. In fact, I have not even 322 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: retweeted it, but I will, I promise JJ. Sorry about 323 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: that Twitter pool. What are your expectations for the Bills 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: headed into training camp with all the uncertainty around the season. A. 325 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: The Bills will win the AFC East. Be They're gonna 326 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: win a playoff game. See, They're gonna win multiple playoff games. 327 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: D they're gonna win the whole thing. Those are you, 328 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: those are your and those are your Twitter options for today, 329 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get We're gonna get to those and 330 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: some of what you've said, uh, you know in a 331 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: little bit later in the show, but just off the 332 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: top of your head, Brownie, and we've got to you know, 333 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: still got a couple of hundred votes in already thirty 334 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: percent of the people. Thirty one percent of the people 335 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: say it's gonna be winning AFC East. They know they're 336 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: gonna do that. Thirty six percent of the people say 337 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna win a playoff game, ten percent say they're 338 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl, and twenty three percent say 339 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: multiple playoff wins. Pretty it's a horse race as to 340 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: how many not only are they gonna win the division, 341 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: but also how many playoff games they are gonna win 342 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: as well. So I I kind of want to pick 343 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: two answers at the same time here, I kind of 344 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: want to pick A and B. That's a good Twitter 345 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: poll when you want to pick more than one answer. Well, 346 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: that's what. But I think they can do both, like 347 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: winning the division. I don't think they're gonna win the 348 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: division and then lose their first playoff game. So, by 349 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 1: the way, I want to pick A and B. If 350 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: they win the division, it'll be a home playoff game. 351 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: Kind of gives you a little flutter inside. Doesn't think 352 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: about about that for months. I'm telling you, man, it 353 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: might happen. They'll be fans in the stands by that time. Woof, well, right, 354 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: I I kind of want to pick A and B 355 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: like like division and win a playoff game, you know, 356 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: And it's so hard to predict, like multiple playoff wins. 357 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: You don't know what's gonna happen on the other side 358 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: of the playoff bracket, like you right, You know, you 359 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: may in some hard fought round one playoff game, whether 360 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: they're in the wildcard round or the divisional round, and 361 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: then there's an upset on the other side and suddenly 362 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: your opponent, although they have momentum, might not be the 363 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: juggernaut that you were anticipating. And that could just change 364 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: the whole landscape of what your think is capable. But 365 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I guess that's part of the fun of predicting this stuff. Yeah, 366 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: and don't think, don't forget there's an extra playoff team 367 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: in the mix. There's seven times seven. Yeah, in the conference. 368 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: So that's that's big. And you know, if the Bills 369 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: win the division host a playoff game, it may be 370 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: they may be hosting a wildcard playoff game. And if 371 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: they don't, it's because they got home field and they're 372 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: the only team that got to buy that weekend if 373 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: they're winning the division. So that's a huge plus for 374 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: that team that it's something to look forward to if 375 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: indeed we get off to a good start and all that. 376 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's oh my gosh, there's like it seems 377 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: light years away, brownie. So tell let me, let me, 378 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: let me run this past year. What do you think 379 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: is more likely to happen this year? That the Bills 380 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: win a division or that they win a playoff game? 381 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: Which do you think is more likely? Win the division 382 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: or win a playoff game? One or the other. Which 383 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: is more likely? I think when the playoff game, Yeah, 384 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I would agree, because even though the Jets look like 385 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: an also ran and with Dolphins they're still rebuilding. I 386 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be competition there from New England. Maybe 387 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: not in the same vein as we've seen in years 388 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: past when they've kind of ruled this division, but they'll 389 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: be competitive. The eland's gonna win some games. I'm not 390 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: counting them out until anything. We've just seen it too 391 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: many times. They've done it too many different ways, with 392 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: too many different rosters they've had. Yeah, they lost a quarter. 393 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: One constant is there is not. Well, yeah, one of 394 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: two constants is there. And you know, and I don't 395 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: think that's gonna cut them in half by any I 396 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna go from twin wins to six wins. 397 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: So I just I'm not counting those guys out at all. 398 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I think they've they've got a program over there, They've 399 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: got a process over there that's going to make them 400 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: competitive again, and I don't think that's going to change. 401 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: One of the things we started talking about at the 402 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: game was all these contract extensions. The reason that comes 403 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: up is that the Los Angeles Chargers signed Joey Bosa 404 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: to an extension of five year extension, no six year extension. 405 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: It's one hundred and two million dollars in guaranteed money 406 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: seventy eight million dollars when he signed it, surpassing the 407 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett deal at twenty five million bosas twenty seven 408 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: million dollars will make him the highest paid defensive player 409 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: on average per season. According to NFL research. His one 410 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five million dollars some trails only the 411 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Bears Khalil Mack at one hundred and forty one million 412 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: for the highest total among defenders per NFL research. So 413 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa signed one hundred and thirty five million dollar deal. 414 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: He gets seventy eight million dollars guaranteed when he signs. 415 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: It's not gonna come to him all at once, but 416 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: he gets it. That's seventy eight million just for signing 417 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: the deal. It's one hundred and two million dollars and 418 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: total guaranteed money twenty seven million dollars average over six years. Wow, Brownie, 419 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: that's that's big. Yeah, giant money. Can you imagine when 420 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: his brother's gonna get in a couple of years, Yeah, 421 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: the other Boasta from the Niners. Yeah, he's I mean, 422 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: that's he's gonna be in the He's gonna be in 423 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: the one fifties probably. Yeah, maybe a couple of years 424 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: from now. I mean, provided everything recovers, he recovers him, 425 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be huge. It'll be a huge number. 426 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: And and you know, Hey, good for I tell you, Brownie, 427 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: it's been easy for me as an old guy not 428 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: to get bitter about the money these guys signed for. 429 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: You didn't hear all these old guys going, I'm very 430 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: blackwhack black whack about back in my day, black amy, 431 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: we didn't bait right, I don't care. Let him man, 432 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: Good for them. Good for Joey Bows. I don't even 433 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I've never even at him. I don't know it. He 434 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: may be a bad guy, but hey, good for him. 435 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: I good for you and him and his family. That's 436 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, that's and I I was 437 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: very happy in my career and when I made good. 438 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: You know, God bless those guys. I mean, I uh, 439 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to watch the league grow continue 440 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: to grow, um as the years passed, and I think 441 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: it will. We're gonna get through this pandemic and it'll 442 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: it'll have some scar tissue going forward, no question. Some 443 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: guys in the National Football League's careers are really going 444 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: to be hurt by the pandemic, some good luck, some 445 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: bad luck because of the pandemic, just like the rest 446 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: of society, for all of us, and um, you know, 447 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: you just we're just gonna get We'll get through it 448 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: and come out on the other side and see what happens. 449 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: But Joey Bosa certainly, uh, he'll remember the pandemic year 450 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: for a different reason than the rest of us. Signs 451 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: and that's the most money he'll ever get for signing 452 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: his autograph. That is exactly right, exactly right in your pocket. 453 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: That's right. A lot more going on, So what do 454 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: you think? What are your expectations with the Buffalo Bills 455 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: headed into training camp? With all the uncertainty going on 456 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: around the National Football League, what are your expectations for 457 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: your Bills team headed into the season? You can call 458 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: us at eight O three oh five fifty or one 459 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty, or tweet at 460 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: one Bills Live. What do you think? Thirty five thirty 461 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: six percent of you say they're gonna win a playoff game, 462 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: thirty percent of you say they're gonna win the AFC East, 463 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: twenty four percent of you say multiple playoff games they're 464 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna win, and eleven percent of you say, hey, we're 465 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: winning the whole thing. You can call us at eight 466 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty or one eighty eight five 467 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifties teep tasker Chris Brown here till 468 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: three o'clock. We've got a lot going on. Fat Brown 469 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: from w r octv's he's the sports director in Rochester. 470 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: He's the Bills preseason television sideline reporter. In most years 471 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: he works with me on the telecast with Andrew Catalan. 472 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on in the two o'clock hour to 473 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on. The National Football League. It's 474 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna be weird too, Brownie. We had our content meeting 475 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: today and we tried to figure out, you know, what 476 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: it's going to look like, to find out about practice, 477 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: who's gone watching practice, who's gonna how we're gonna get injury? 478 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: You know, information that the opt out list is out 479 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: and live and ongoing, lots going on, and still we 480 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: don't know as media members, there's a lot going on. 481 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: We don't even know if we're gonna be able to 482 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: go on a road trips, you know, like local media 483 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: people that is so far down the place. There's so 484 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: much that so many questions that are gonna surround this 485 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: team right now. They're just trying to get through training 486 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: camp and get to the get to the regular season. 487 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: We'll see how that works out. So I don't know, 488 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: I Bronnie, what's your gut feeling about how this training 489 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: camp is gonna go. Are We're gonna have teams come 490 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: down with the virus in big bets like the Phillies 491 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: for the Marlins. I think what we have to remember is, 492 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: to a large degree, this league is counting on twenty 493 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: one and twenty two year old guys doing the right 494 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: thing every single day for the better part of the 495 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: next three to four weeks. And the law of averages 496 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: probably says that's not going to be a one hundred 497 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: percent thing. So there will be the risks will be 498 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: enhanced by hopefully a small percentage of people doing the 499 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: wrong thing. Right now, it is there are there are 500 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: deterrens within the new agreement right now between the union 501 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: and the league that if it can be proven somebody 502 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: engaged in irresponsible behavior, as it's clearly outlined in that 503 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: nine page document. You know, if you're going to a 504 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: nightclub indoors, or you're going to some indoor concert and 505 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you expose yourself and thereby expose your teammates and leads 506 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: to an outbreak, then you're in some major hot water. 507 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: So is that enough of a deterrent. I want to 508 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: say it should be, but I'm not convinced it will 509 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: be to one under certainty mean either One o'clock, Maddi 510 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Glad's going to come on the show where us we're 511 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: going to talk about our expectations for the Bills headed 512 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: into training camp with all the uncertainty. Two o'clock. As 513 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: I said that, Brown from w r OC and Rochester. 514 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown Here until three One Bills Live 515 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. 516 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back in One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker Chris Brown Here. 517 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: We've got Maddie Glad coming up. At the top of 518 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: the hour. We're gonna have a round table about our 519 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Twitter poll. We're gonna a lot of feedback from what 520 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: are your expectations for the Bills headed into training camp 521 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: with all the uncertainty surrounded the National Football League? How 522 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna do? And the you know 523 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: most of you have chosen the fact that, well, you 524 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win a playoff game. Not only gonna 525 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: win the division, they're gonna win the playoff game. Thirty 526 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: percent of you say that. The twenty nine percent of 527 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna win the Division, thirty six percent 528 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: of you think they're gonna win the Vision, the playoff 529 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: game and then multiple playoff games, twenty three percent of 530 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: you think that, and of course eleven percent if you 531 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: think they're gonna win the Super Bowl. A lot of 532 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: high expectations, no question about it. They surround the Bill, 533 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: they have all that sound the Bills, they have all 534 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: off season. That's not gonna go away, Brownie, and I 535 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: know that We've got a lot of feedback on the 536 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: Twitter tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan's Moving Systems, 537 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: the official equipment movers of the Buffalo Bills. Brownie, go 538 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: to the tweet sheet and see what people are saying. Uh. 539 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: First up, Tiffany, I could definitely see the team winning 540 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: multiple playoff games. If Josh elevates his game to the 541 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: next level, the conversation moves towards the championship run. His 542 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: first half against Houston was impressive, made a ton of 543 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: big plays. Consistency is the key this season for Josh. 544 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: No secrets there. Oh. If Josh Allen Take takes a 545 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: huge step forward, the team's gonna be a jugg er not. 546 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, right now you're talking, you know, best in 547 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: the AFC potentially, you know that kind of stuff. You're talking. 548 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are looking over their shoulders pretty fast at 549 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: the Bills, right. I mean, that's they've got a roster 550 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: that that is really good, and they've got a defense 551 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: that's way better than Kansas Cities or it has been 552 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: in the last three years. And if if their quarterback 553 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: steps up and becomes you know, a percentage of how 554 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: good Mahomes is, you know, the rest of this roster 555 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: is going to elevate him too, could elevate him to 556 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: a championship, right, which is why that Week six game 557 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs might prove to be very telling, kind 558 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: of like a measuring stick kind of game for them. 559 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where are they in the AFC? I mean, 560 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: they played Baltimore super tight last year in a hard 561 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: fought game, and you know, Baltimore was fourteen and two 562 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: last year and they got upset in the play. But 563 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys were using that as 564 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: a measuring stick game last year, and I think that 565 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City game is absolutely a measuring stick game this year. 566 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: No question, and and and it's yeah, that's fine, you 567 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: can do that. Um that there's not there's more than one. 568 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: I think. Um, you know, so if you look down 569 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: the down the roster or down the list of the 570 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: schedule for the Buffalo Bills, Uh, it's well, it's it's 571 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I mean you're going to I think 572 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks in San Francisco forty nine ers or two 573 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: games that are measuring sticks. Uh. The Chiefs certainly a 574 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: measuring stick. Um. And and I still think the Patriots 575 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: are a measuring stick with for people here in Western 576 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: New York for still haven't beaten them, right, I think 577 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: that's a measuring stick. I think it's If it's not 578 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: a measuring stick, it's certainly a yard marker, right. Um. 579 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: And you know, so all those games are gonna be 580 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: The Steelers are always a you know, a franchise. It's 581 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: a franchise kind of marker. The Steelers are a good 582 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: football team. They are every year. But when you get 583 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: down and start playing the NFC West, every game in 584 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: that thing is gonna be a yard stick. You don't 585 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: think people are gonna be comparing Kyler Murray to Josh 586 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: Allen at that point, how these young quarterbacks are doing 587 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: who's leading their team? How are they doing it? How 588 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: are they getting it done? How big a percentage of 589 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: the offense each of these young players is, even though 590 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is a year behind him or two years 591 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: behind him, it's a it's a huge step and it's 592 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: a huge measuring stick when you start putting these young 593 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the field against each other. Mahomes and Josh Allen, 594 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, I just this is the team that 595 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills that now we've set it a 596 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: million different ways, Brownie, they go as far as Josh 597 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: Allen's gonna take him right, and you know, how good 598 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: does he have to be? You know, does he have 599 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: to be all world? Does he have to just be 600 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: a little bit better? I think that might hinge, John, 601 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: who you're playing, you're playing the Chiefs, he may have 602 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: to be all world. You may have to get to 603 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: thirty points to beat that team. If he's playing you know, 604 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: the Raiders, maybe you only have to get to twenty three, 605 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty four. Yeah, the Raiders are the Chargers. You know, 606 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: even the Broncos, Dolphins, Jets, those teams. I mean, you 607 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: gotta think, well, Okay, we've got our defense in our defense. 608 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: And not only do our defense play well against those teams, 609 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: are coaching staff knows them extremely well as too. They 610 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: know their personnel, they know their coaching styles, they know 611 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: what they've done in the past. They've got a book 612 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: on those teams particularly. I think that's gonna help the 613 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: Bills in the early going of the season. Think about 614 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: the New York Jets and the Miami Dolphins. Those are 615 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: the first two games of the season, Brownie. We've talked 616 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: about like there's no preseason games. These teams. You're walking 617 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: in there blind with no film about who what the 618 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: rosters are gonna look like. But are you're playing the 619 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins against the same guys that you 620 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: feel mostly the same guys you fielded last year. And 621 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: the Jets and Dolphins a gonna have some key guys 622 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: as well. Now their offensive line's gonna play better, but 623 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: the Bill's defense could ostensibly be better as well. So 624 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: those two teams you kind of feel like, Okay, that'll 625 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: help us get our feet under ourselves. And then when 626 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: you get to the Los Angeles Rams, you'll have two 627 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: weeks a game film to look at those guys and say, Okay, 628 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: this is what they're doing this year, you know, So 629 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: that could get help you get off to a start, 630 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: because when you get into those unfamiliar teams like the Rams, 631 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: like the Raiders, like the Chiefs, you got a chance 632 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: to look at him at least before you have to 633 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: play it. Yeah, and as we were saying on the 634 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: show yesterday, week one is usually the week where it's 635 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: the most unknown for coaches, obviously because rosters turn over 636 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: and change, and sometimes there's a scheme change as well. 637 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: If there's a coaching change and you know, everybody plays 638 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: it close to the vest in the preseason, well, you 639 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: don't even have any preseason vanilla scheme tape to go over, 640 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: and now you're getting right to the regular season, you 641 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: really have no power to evaluate anybody and what they're 642 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: capable of on a football field on that opponent's team, 643 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: because you haven't even seen him in the preseason. You 644 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: don't have any idea how rookies are going to be 645 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: used on that roster that may play a role right away. 646 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: So unknowns are going to last into week two in 647 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: week three to a greater degree than in the past, 648 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: just by virtue of how this preseason and training camps 649 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: getting spelled out. So what are your expectations for the 650 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: Bill heading into the training camp with all the uncertainty? 651 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: We get a tweet from swice as nice. He said, 652 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: multiple playoff wins, shoot Super Bowl win two. Mcdermot's the 653 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: right coach to make it happen in this crazy twenty 654 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: twenty season. If now big, if he says, the team 655 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: continues to stay healthy in all aspects the talent and 656 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: heart is there, better defense and more improvement from number 657 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: seventeen equals the Lombardi to Buffalo blue Heart, red heart. 658 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: He's got emojis on there, so yeah, and that acknowledge, 659 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: even though though it's as positive and spends it as 660 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: positive as you possibly can there twice as nice. The 661 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is this, there's a lot of 662 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: unknowns between now and when the season kicks off, and 663 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: light years between now and when the Lombardi Trophy is 664 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: host hoisted if indeed it actually is so. But the 665 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: Bills could not have put themselves in a more healthy 666 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: spot here brownie and now. All it remains is for 667 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: the coaching staff to get the team competitive and get 668 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: the guys healthy and virus free to the field, right. 669 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: And you know they mentioned stay healthy in all aspects 670 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: Seth did, and that's the other element here. I think 671 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: the Bills over the last two years have demonstrated with 672 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: their athletic training and sports science departments that they found 673 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: a way to keep their roster extraordinarily healthy the last 674 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: two years as it pertains to football injuries. But this 675 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: is a whole different ball of wax this year that 676 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: you have to be concerned about, and there is far 677 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: less means by which you can control that, because you're 678 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: completely at the mercy of the diligence of the players 679 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: when they're away from the facility doing the right thing 680 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: and not letting that compromise the health of your team 681 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: as it pertains to COVID. So you could have the 682 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: best sports science and athletic training department in the world 683 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: in terms of preventing regular football injuries. But if you 684 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: don't have these players doing right by their teammates and 685 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: right by the organization, you've got a whole other layer 686 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 1: that you've got to concern yourself with, and there's only 687 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: so much control you have over that. You're ultimately relying 688 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: on all of these players to be doing the right 689 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: thing all the time, you know, in terms of not 690 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: exposing themselves not necessarily to potential COVID infection. Yeah, you 691 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: get to know that. Yeah, the Bills would have been 692 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: extremely healthy over the last two years, and I don't 693 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: think that's an accident. I think they do have a 694 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: process that helps them stay healthy in a way of 695 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: doing things, and a willingness to invest in that both 696 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: with rest of players on a maybe a hard practice 697 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: day set certain players down, but certainly keeping their thumb 698 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: on the pulse of all these guys, so to speak 699 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: of all these guys, knowing who needs a break, who doesn't. 700 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: But the health of this team I don't think is 701 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: an accident. Now, certainly luck plays a role in it, 702 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: particularly on the football field, but this year, you're right, Brownie, 703 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: it's football injuries aside. You got to keep them away 704 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: from the virus. And then not only do you have 705 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: to keep them away from the virus, you got to 706 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: keep them healthy when they get on the football field 707 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: to start doing football stuff. I mean, that's usually usually 708 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: that's what you're worry about going into training camp. Some 709 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: key player gets a training camp Injurin he's out for 710 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: eight weeks or the season, or two weeks of the 711 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: season or whatever, or even just a stretch of training 712 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: camp where he's not gonna miss two weeks in a 713 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: week one of the preseason. All that stuff's always on 714 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: the table, and now we haven't even spent a second 715 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: talking about it because of the virus. And you layer 716 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: all those those two things on top of each other, 717 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: and you find yourself in a place where it could 718 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: get dark pretty easy. Well, and let's not forget this too. 719 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: As as much as COVID is front and center as 720 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: the number one concern in terms of impacting your roster, 721 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: and I believe it wholeheartedly, is the other thing to 722 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: consider about regular football injuries is the amount of time 723 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: these players have been off the field, the layoff. You know, 724 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: we saw it in the twenty eleven lockout. There were 725 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: a higher rate of injuries when teams came to training 726 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,959 Speaker 1: camp just because of that lack of activity. And that's 727 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: why they're trying to prevent that. With a ramp up 728 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: period here and no preseason games. I hope it mitigates 729 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: that situation for everybody across the league. You don't want 730 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: to see anybody going down with injuries, but I'm not 731 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: convinced it will be. This is a long layoff. I mean, 732 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: there was nothing point nothing on the field, you know, 733 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: since the end of the football season. So now we've 734 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: seen the players do. But make no mistake, the players 735 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: get together and they work out. They do all this 736 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 1: all the time. Anyway, all the stuff we've been seeing 737 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: on social media that get together as the workouts, I mean, 738 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a little bit unprecedented. The quarterbacks 739 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: are getting the guys together running seven on seven drills 740 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: and all of that with about twenty of their teammates. 741 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: That is a little unprecedented. But by the same token, 742 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: these guys do stay in shape. But staying in shape 743 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: is different than going out and competing, and that's where 744 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: the injuries come. Because these guys ask so much of 745 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: their bodies when they start to compete that they haven't 746 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: had to ask for months and months. Something breaks. Invariably, 747 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: something gives out, their hamstring pull, their shoulder gets sore, 748 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: they pull this muscle, that muscle, a calf muscle, pull, 749 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: a peck muscle, whatever. Soft tissue injuries are prevalent when 750 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: you come back off a layoff, because no matter what 751 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: you've done in that layoff. Unless you've been playing high level, 752 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: high intensity sport of the exact sport you're playing, bad 753 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: things happen. All Right, We've got still more to come. 754 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: Mattie Glab Coming up at the top of the hour, 755 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown Here till three o'clock. One Bills 756 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. One 757 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: of Bill's Life, Steve Tasker Chris Brown here till three o'clock. 758 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: Coming up right after this next break, Maddie Glabs is 759 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: going to join us for a round table discussing our 760 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: Twitter poll of the day. What are your expectations for 761 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: this Buffalo Bills team headed into training camp with all 762 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 1: the uncertainty We've given you some choices on Twitter, Thirty 763 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: eight percent of you say they're gonna win a playoff game, 764 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: eight percent of you say they're going to win the 765 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: AFC East, twenty three percent of you say that's gonna 766 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: be multiple playoff wins, and eleven percent of you think 767 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: they're going to take it all. They're gonna win the 768 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Right, will ask Maddie Glab what her thoughts 769 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: are about it? With all the uncertainty. Certainly, there's optimism. 770 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: This is the season of optimism for every NFL club. 771 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: You head into training camp with your guys, you're all healthy, 772 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: you look great, you're in shape. Long seasons take place, though, 773 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: and as we've been talking about in the last segment, 774 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: health is a big unknown, particularly in this year of 775 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Not only you have to worry about football injuries, 776 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: but now you got to worry about COVID nineteen as well, 777 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: and how that's going to ravage your roster from week 778 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: to week well, and the extra layer of that has 779 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: already led to symmetrician by virtue of the opt outs 780 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: if twenty one players that have now opted out, and 781 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: Star Latu Lelee is the one for the Bills of note, 782 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: who chose to do that on a voluntary basis not 783 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: a high risk designation. And we know how the Patriots 784 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: roster has been impacted. They essentially lost three starters, a 785 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: right tackle, a starting safety, and a starting linebacker. So 786 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: damn't even tested everybody yet and they're down five or 787 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: six players. So yeah, it's it's it's There are multiple 788 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: layers just to the COVID thing alone in terms of 789 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: impacting your roster. Yeah, we'd also like to remember with 790 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: Maddie coming on, we'd like to remind everybody to watch 791 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: Captain's Circle presented by the Back Blue Light, where it's 792 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: going to return for the season finale on this Sunday, 793 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: August second, airing at seven pm on the Bills YouTube 794 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: channel and Facebook page, as well as the Sabers YouTube 795 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: channel and Facebook page. The episode features this week Bill's 796 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: legends Lorenzo, Alexander and Dealt Darryl Talley, along with Sabers 797 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: legends Stu Barnes and Danny Gare coming up Sunday at 798 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: seven on all the Buffalo Bill and Saber platforms. No, 799 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good series. I look forward to watching it, 800 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,959 Speaker 1: and I hope and I recommended all our listeners as well. 801 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: Mattie Glad coming up here at the top of the hour. 802 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna get her input on what she a thing now? 803 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: This is She's coming up. She's like just passed her 804 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: one year anniversary here in Buffalo. She grew up in Chicago. 805 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: Huge Bears fan. I wonder her. I'll ask her this 806 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: just out of just to mess with her, just to 807 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: mess say it is she used? Is she not? Taken 808 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: aback by the optimism surrounding the Buffalo Bills. How much 809 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: optimism has there been in the years over the Chicago Bears. 810 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we can stretch, right, and they had to 811 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: double doing just a handful of years ago, and they 812 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: haven't even wifed that since that was two years ago, 813 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: two years ago, and they're having trouble sustaining it. I 814 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: wonder what their what their reasons are for. I wonder 815 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: if the seriously does the Cleo mac contract weigh on them? Now? Well, 816 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Looks like a decent deal now yeah, right, 817 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: and after the boast of money. Well yeah, but now 818 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 1: even two years down, I mean, Max's a great player, 819 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: oh he is. Yeah, they've had trouble at quarterback, basically, 820 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: is what people are saying. But there just took a 821 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: step backward last year as well. Yeah, and you know, 822 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: Fangio's not there anymore, right, he's the head coach in Denver. 823 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: So that's a loss from a coaching perspective, and they're 824 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out quarterback. They're hoping Foals provides 825 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: more answers if Trubisky just simply doesn't have it. But yeah, 826 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: they're they're kind of like a team in flux a 827 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: little bit, you know. I mean, Matt Naggie has been 828 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: there is it's gonna be his third year now, so 829 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: he's been there a couple of years. It's not like 830 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: they're making these wholesale changes with scheme or anything, but 831 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: it always seems like they're running in place. I don't 832 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: know what it is with that franchise. Yeah, they struggle 833 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: to get over the hum now they've done it a 834 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: couple of times. They've obviously, the eighty five Bears was 835 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: one of the great teams of all time, but they 836 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: only got to one Super Bowl. Yep, they only got 837 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: to one super Bowl, which is amazing for a team 838 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: that was that dominant. And then of course they caught 839 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: lightning in a little in a bottle with Rex Grossman. 840 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: But then they faced Peyton Manning in Super Bowl forty two. 841 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: That wasn't a fair fight. That was. Yeah, they got 842 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: their heads caved in eight Manning versus Rex Grossman. He 843 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: the math. But that's it. I mean, that's that's the 844 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 1: extent of it. Now they you know, they go to 845 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs once every so often, but they hover around 846 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: five hundred on their seasons. The twelve and four year 847 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: two years ago turned out up couldn't even get a 848 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: playoff win, and that was at home. Yeah, that's the 849 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: one thing I always wonder about with respect to the 850 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: playoff format. Do you want to be that team that 851 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: gets the buy Logic says, yes, that's one less game 852 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: you gotta win. But then you get some team coming 853 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: in off a major win in the wild card round. 854 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: I know there's a carry over, there isn't it. And 855 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: they're a little bit coming in. They're coming in with 856 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: their hair on fire, you know, and you're coming off 857 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: a two week break. Yeah, there can be some of that. 858 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: And I've said this too, I think wildcard weekends the 859 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: best football of the season. I mean, he took the 860 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: Bills and Texans was a great game, win into overtime 861 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: last year. You've had other great wildcard games, you know, 862 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: the great comeback back in the nineties, all of that stuff. 863 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: I've always thought the wildcard weekend was the best football 864 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: of the season. And for this reason, you get these teams. 865 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: The wildcard teams are always clawing and kicking and scratching 866 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: all the way to the very end of the season, 867 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: trying to get in to make sure they're in. They 868 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: rarely have a wildcard spot wrapped up three weeks beforehand, right, 869 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: so they get in with this emotional high and they 870 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: carry that right through and then that all the lights 871 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: go on and they all hit on all cylinders, and 872 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: both wildcard teams, even the team that you know that 873 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: hosts them as as a division winner is you know, 874 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: it feels good, right, So those games are really really 875 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,919 Speaker 1: fun to watch. And then the next week it's exactly right. 876 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you get you get one team that's either rested, 877 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: fresh and ready to go, and the other team that 878 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: is spent after that wildcard weekend, or you get a 879 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: team that's flat waiting for them for two weeks, and 880 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: the wildcard team carries it through like Tennessee last year, 881 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: like a freight train, right. I Mean that's just that 882 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: is a risk that you do run. But I think 883 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: any day of the week, any coach, any player would 884 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: take one less game to have to win in the 885 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: postseason and take the buye for certain because at least 886 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 1: you know you're playing in the divisional round. There's no 887 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: guarantee if you've got to start at the wildcard, right, 888 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: all right, what are your expectations for the Bills headed 889 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: into training camp. We've got Maddie Glab coming in right 890 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: after the break. We're gonna have a little roundtable discussion 891 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: about what we think is coming up in the season ahead. 892 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalidah Health on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 893 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: Well time, watchtper, what's up? What's up? What's up on Tasker? 894 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: And Chris Brown. We're joined now also by Maddi Glab, 895 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: Bills reporter and uh all Media reporter. I guess a 896 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: PSC reporter. You do it? You you cover the gammer 897 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: right or you're doing How did the third edition of 898 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: Captain's Circle go? How was that to shoot? It went 899 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: very well. It was a lot of fun. I just 900 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: watched the proof and I can tell you it's gonna 901 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: be a really good episode. So that drops Sunday night. 902 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: Uh Darryl Tally and Lorenzo Alexander where the former Bills 903 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: players on that episode. So can't wait for that to drop. 904 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: It's a it's a fun episode, lots of laughs. Darryl 905 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: Talley is hilarious, Yeah, yes he is. We brought you 906 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: in today to talk to you about our Twitter poll. 907 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: What are the expectations for the Bills headed into training camp. 908 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: Your last camp countdown article twenty twenty was a question, 909 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: can the Bills defense be top five defense again this 910 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: season for the third year in a row. There's no 911 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: real reason to think they're going to step backwards. Even 912 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: with Starlow tu Lelee opting out. You still feel like 913 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: their defensive line is going to be every bit as 914 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: effective as it was a year ago. And we all 915 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: have high hopes for the cornerback opposite Tredavious White to 916 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: come in to step up, and the two safeties are 917 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: going to be intact, the linebackers are going to be intact. 918 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: A lot of continuity on the Bills defense, Yeah, I 919 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: mean I came into this team last season, so last 920 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: year's my first year covering the team, and just to 921 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: see the type of defense that they put together and 922 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: the type of defense that coach McDermot and Leslie Frazier 923 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: are known for, and how they've grown it and put 924 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: it in place since they got to the Bills now 925 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:09,479 Speaker 1: entering year four, together, all the parts and pieces are there, 926 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: even with Star gone. I think this group as a 927 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: whole collectively is going to take a step forward because 928 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: your young leaders are maturing, They're understanding the defense more. 929 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: They're able to just act rather than think when the 930 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 1: ball is snapped. You have versatile players who you can 931 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: plug in play and win one on one matchups and 932 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: expose weaknesses on opposing offenses. You add new faces to 933 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: the defensive line room, which I think will help. Yes, 934 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: Losing Jordan Phillips and Shack Lawson is tough, especially with 935 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 1: the production that they had last season, but I think 936 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: you get that and I think you get even more 937 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: versatility with some of these players that you've added on 938 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 1: this defensive line. I think there's a lot to say 939 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 1: with Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde entering their fourth year together. 940 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: I think they just grow every single year in a 941 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: different element and they add a different facet to their 942 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: game playing together. You look at Tremaine Edmonds, I think 943 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: he's going to take a step forward. Matt Milano is 944 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: going to take a step forward. These are third year 945 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: players who are becoming more mature and who can flex 946 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: even more of their defensive muscle as they grow in 947 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: this system. I don't think you can point to any 948 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: place on this defense and think, oh, it's going to 949 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: be a weak spot. Yes, there's that corner position opposite 950 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: Tredavious White, but I do think Levi Wallace held his 951 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: own last year. That's that's a part of the field 952 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: that is going to get a lot of traffic regardless 953 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: of who is there. If it's Levi again, if it's 954 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: Josh Norman, if it's going to rotate between players, I 955 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: think that person is going to have to also be 956 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: a lockdown corner, just like Trey White is. But the 957 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: defense as a whole, I totally think is going to 958 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: be another top five unit this season because of the 959 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: stats that they put up last year and because they're 960 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: they're just going to take a step forward. This is 961 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 1: a very strong defense that is a versatile that does 962 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things that other defenses in the league 963 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: can't do. They allowed sixteen point two points per game. 964 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: Last season. That was great. I think they can do 965 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: that or even better this season. And Steve, you mentioned continuity, 966 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: and you know, people look at the free agent editions 967 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: that this defense made and they are numerous, probably more 968 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 1: numerous than they were last year in the off season, 969 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: but the fact remains that you're still going to have nine, 970 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: essentially nine of eleven starters returning to the defensive unit, 971 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: if you count ed Oliver as a true starter, and 972 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: I think you do now with you know, Jordan Phillips 973 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: out and he got more playing time in the second 974 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: half of the season. So you look at that and 975 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: you look at the history of NFL defenses, because I 976 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: did a story on this a year ago in February 977 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: when I was asking going into twenty nineteen, can they 978 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 1: be a top five defense again? And I looked all 979 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: the way back to twenty ten to see how frequently 980 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 1: this happened. And one of the key components was player continuity. 981 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle was the gold standard because they did 982 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: it for five straight years. They were a top five 983 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: defense in the legion of Boom and that whole crew. 984 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: And Denver did it also from twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen. 985 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: Won a Super Bowl in there as part of that. 986 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: And Minnesota and Jacksonville were other examples that did it 987 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: three seasons consecutively. But when Denver kind of fell out 988 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: of the top five, it's when they lost their continuity. 989 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: They lost a couple of key players like Malik Jackson upfront, 990 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware, you know, kind of retired and so they 991 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: lost some key components and it kept them from being 992 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: a top five defense for a fourth strett or a 993 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: fifth straight season. Seattle, even though they had three different 994 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: coordinators on the defensive side of the ball over that 995 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: span from twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, they kept the 996 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: same scheme and so scheme continuity, player continuity, huge components, 997 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: and the Bills have those things. Yeah. And the thing 998 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: that is good and has been amazing about Brandon Bean 999 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott is they have switched out some pieces 1000 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: from time to time. They've brought in some people. Even 1001 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: during the season. The acquisition of Jordan Phillips. Nobody knew 1002 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: who he was. He was a high round draft pick 1003 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins and got discrowned. They brought him in. 1004 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: He fit in and not only came in but also contributed. 1005 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: Look at the four new guys they've got on their 1006 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: defensive line rotation. Mario Addison, Quinton Jefferson, Vernon Butler and 1007 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: now aj Epanessa as well. Those are four names that 1008 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: I think on most teams around the NFL, those guys 1009 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 1: are going to be a big part of the rotation, 1010 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: if not out and out starters. Guys that you're going 1011 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: to depend on. And those are the guys who were 1012 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: brought in to help the guys they've already got like 1013 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: Ed Oliver, Trent Murphy, and Jerry Hughes just to name 1014 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: three of them. Harrison Phillips is back on the field. 1015 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: They've got guys that they're gonna have to choose between 1016 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: of who's going to be on And I think, and 1017 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: I've said this before, Brown and you can speak to this. 1018 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: You've seen the experimentation that they do with rotations. They've 1019 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: even got down last year where they were bringing Lorenzo 1020 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: in and putting him in a defensive tackle spot inside 1021 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 1: of some guys. They were really experimenting with how they 1022 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: got the best pressure, what combinations worked, which ones didn't. 1023 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 1: And I think during training camp, if they can get 1024 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: enough reps of that, that could really be a unit 1025 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: that takes a step forward this year, even at the 1026 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: losses of Shack and Jordan Phillips. And I think the 1027 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: key there is finding the versatile pieces of the defensive front. 1028 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: I mean, in years past it's been Lorenzo Alexander, a 1029 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: guy that can be an off the ball linebacker, you know, 1030 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: on obvious rundowns and then when you want to go 1031 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: to passing downs, he can be in that turbo package 1032 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: and rush the passer from any number of different spots, 1033 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: whether you line them up inside standing up, or you 1034 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: put him outside and he's working twists and stunts, you know, 1035 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: with the end, or he's you know, a walk up 1036 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: linebacker off the edge. So he's not part of the 1037 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: equation anymore. I don't think a J. Klein, who many 1038 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,479 Speaker 1: field will be the guy that replaces him in base 1039 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,919 Speaker 1: linebacker set based defense sets at linebacker has the same versatility. 1040 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: So now you have to find that somewhere else. And 1041 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: I think we were discussing that earlier in the week, Steve. 1042 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: It might be someone like an aj Epinessa, or might 1043 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 1: be someone like a Quentin Jefferson. Guys that can play 1044 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: on the edge on rundowns and reduce down inside on 1045 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 1: passing downs. That meat might be where they have to 1046 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: look or their versatile, more unpredictable pieces to show those 1047 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: looks that are gonna cross up offenses. And one of 1048 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 1: the reasons that is, and I'll just explain some people 1049 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: may not get it why that versatility is key. And 1050 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: here's why you can have four guys on the field, 1051 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: you say, you've got Jerry Hughes, you've got Trent Murphy, 1052 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: you've got Vernon Butler and aj Epanessa on If you 1053 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: can start trading places with guys like aj Epenesa and 1054 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, and you've got your all of a sudden, 1055 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: you've got a speed pass rusher lining up over the 1056 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: right guard and your big time and your big defensive 1057 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: tackle size a Japanessa on the outside right. All of 1058 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, the offensive line is say, well, this is 1059 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes over here. So here's what we're gonna do. 1060 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna find Jerry Hughes double him. They 1061 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: have to sort through all of that, and then the 1062 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: same four guys show up again, and now Hughes is 1063 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: on the other defensive tackle, A j Epaneza is at 1064 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: the tackle, and they got Vernon Butler outside. You know 1065 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: they just switched those guys up, or Trent Murphy's switches sides. 1066 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: They will always prioritize who they're gonna pass protect against first. 1067 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: They'll double team this guy all the time. So with 1068 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: the right combination of guys, you can put your best 1069 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 1: pass rushers in the most beneficial matchups every place else. 1070 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: And that's why you need guys that aren't afraid to 1071 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: line up on the right side or the left side, 1072 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: or inside or outside. When you can do that and 1073 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: be effective from all those places, the offensive line's got 1074 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: a huge problem, huge problem, and it translates into saxon pressures. 1075 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: And an offensive line isn't rotating throughout a game. They 1076 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: it's the same five people in those positions usually, so 1077 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: they're taking reps in game against new people a countless 1078 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: number of times. With the way this defensive line rotates, 1079 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: and I think if you also look at this from 1080 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: the lens of a COVID standpoint, I think the versatility 1081 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: that this defense has paired with the bodies, you can 1082 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: lose a player or two and still be okay. We 1083 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: saw Star opt out yesterday, and you look at the 1084 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,920 Speaker 1: defensive line and you look at the inside of the 1085 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: defensive line and you think, yes, Star was an important 1086 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: piece to this defense. But this defense is still going 1087 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: to be okay. We have Harrison Phillips, we have Ed Oliver, 1088 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: and if you lose a player in season due to injury, 1089 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: or if we have a couple more players opt out, 1090 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: which we're unsure of right now, but you look at 1091 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: this defense as okay, it can take a couple of blows, 1092 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: it can lose some people and still function, And I 1093 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: think that's so important in a season of We're not 1094 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 1: sure what's going to happen. We're not sure if this 1095 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: team is going to hit a bump in the road, 1096 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,919 Speaker 1: We're not sure if the injuries are going to come 1097 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: this year. Let's remember how healthy this defense was last 1098 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: year minus Harrison Phillips. We hope they're going to be 1099 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: just as healthy, but if some people go down, it's 1100 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 1: still going to be okay. We're talking with Maddie Glab, 1101 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here on one Bills Live about 1102 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: what the Bill's expectations are and what expectations are fan 1103 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: bases have put on them where they expect him to be. 1104 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Do you expect him to win the division? You expect 1105 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: him to win a playoff game, two playoff games, you 1106 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: expect him to win the Super Bowl? You can chime 1107 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: in and call us or tweet at us at one 1108 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Bills Live or call us an eighth three oh five 1109 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: fifty and one of the other things about this defensive front. 1110 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: We focused on this because It's part of the Camp 1111 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Countdown series of articles that Maddie and Chris have written 1112 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: over the last few weeks leading up to this point 1113 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: where we got to the training camp, the point of 1114 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: training camp. Here's another thing as well. Think about this. 1115 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: You're right, Maddie. The offensive linemen, with few exceptions, don't 1116 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: really switch out positions very often. And what happens is this, 1117 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: you get laid into a game and just about all 1118 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: your defensive linemen have had a chance to rush pass 1119 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,479 Speaker 1: rush multiple offensive lineman one on one. Particularly, they got 1120 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: not Jerry Hughes so much he'll get doubled and other 1121 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,479 Speaker 1: guys will get doubled. But when you when you rush 1122 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: those guys. Believe me, they've got a coaching staff up 1123 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: in the booth and they come in between series and say, 1124 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: how'd you do against this guy, this guy and this guy. 1125 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: And they'll all come up and they'll say, listen, I can, 1126 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: I can, I own this guard and I own the 1127 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: other guard. I'm struggling with the tackle, and the other 1128 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: guy will say, well I got that tackle, you know. 1129 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: So they'll put on a completely different combination of players 1130 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: and put each guy on a guy he thinks he's 1131 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: got yeah, he thinks he can own They do that 1132 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: during the subsequent drives you get late into a game 1133 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 1: and now they've got some pretty quality rushers going on there, 1134 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: whereas some guys who think they can win their matchup 1135 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: one on one. And that's how you get sacks late 1136 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: in game. That's how you get pressure late in game, 1137 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: and that's when an offensive line starts to wear out. 1138 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: It's welcome against a defensive front. The key to that, though, 1139 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: is having an offense that puts you in position to 1140 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. So I think the one component 1141 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: here we can't lose sight of is if the offense 1142 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 1: is going to take a step take a step as 1143 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: we all anticipated will, it's going to have to do 1144 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: that in the point production category, where despite all the 1145 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 1: improvements they made on that side of the ball last year, 1146 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: was still twenty fourth in the league in points. So 1147 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: if they can play from ahead more, then I think 1148 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: this defense has the ability to be even more productive 1149 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 1: than they've been in the last couple of years, just 1150 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: by virtue of the fact that they would be playing 1151 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: in a much different scenario week to week. If their 1152 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: offense is doing its job and scoring points, I mean 1153 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 1: think about this. The last couple of years, a lot 1154 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: of these games have been dogfights. Bills really haven't blown 1155 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,479 Speaker 1: any teams out of the water off the scoreboard. So 1156 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: this defense, more often than not over the last three years, 1157 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: has played on short fields, has played at deficits and 1158 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: without the lead, and yet they've still been this productive. Now, 1159 01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 1: imagine what happens if Buffalo's offense actually puts them ahead 1160 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: on the scoreboard more often than not going in. I mean, 1161 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 1: Josh Allen had what five fourth quarter comebacks last year, So, 1162 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean that's just a small example of the situation 1163 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 1: the defense often found itself. And if they're playing from 1164 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: ahead a lot more, this defense could be even better. 1165 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: And also if the offense stays on the field longer, 1166 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: that's another part of the conversation, is staying on the field, 1167 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: not getting off the field on three downs or I mean, 1168 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: we saw last season the offense scored quickly a lot. 1169 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 1: If they could stay on the field a little bit longer, 1170 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: that helps with the fresh legs of a defense. And 1171 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: probably the defensive line not only rotated as much as 1172 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: they did because Leslie Frazier schemed it up, but you 1173 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 1: want to get fresh legs throughout the entire game, and 1174 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 1: I can look back and think about some games where 1175 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the defense did look out of breath at the end 1176 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 1: of the game because they were on the field for 1177 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: such a long amount of time. Interesting about the Bill's 1178 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: ability to score points. In eight games last year, they 1179 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: scored seventeen or fewer points. They scored thirty points only twice, 1180 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: and both those games were against the Miami Dolphins. They've 1181 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: got to find a way to get on the scoreboard 1182 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: more often and more consistently this year. And that's all 1183 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: that's I think that's the holy grail of this offensive 1184 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 1: step forward we're talking about. If they score more points, 1185 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: I don't care if Josh Allen runs for twenty touchdown 1186 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: and throws for two. They've got to get on the 1187 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,479 Speaker 1: scoreboard more often than they did in twenty nineteen. Yeah, 1188 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: and that and those problems are rooted in their third 1189 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: down conversion percentage, which was around thirty five and a 1190 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: half percent, and in their red zone touchdown efficiency, which 1191 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: wasn't terrible, but I think it was eighteenth in the 1192 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: league at about fifty seven percent. It's got to be 1193 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: over sixty. You've got to be up close to sixty 1194 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: four sixty five sixty six percent. That's where the playoff 1195 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: teams are at and the playoff average because I wrote 1196 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: this story in the Camp countdown, so the numbers freshened 1197 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: my head. But you look at what the Bills averaged 1198 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: per game, and what was it, nineteen point six points 1199 01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: per game. And you look at what the rest of 1200 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: the playoff teams last year averaged collectively. The other eleven 1201 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: playoff teams average twenty six point six points per game 1202 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: and then an exact touchdown more on average than the Bills. 1203 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: So that just speaks to how dan good the defense is. 1204 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: The offense wasn't scoring points and they still made the 1205 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: playoffs and we're a ten win team. Now imagine if 1206 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: you up that point points per game percentage, even get 1207 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: it to twenty four twenty four and a half, like 1208 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: put an extra five to six points on the board, 1209 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: and I think the fortunes of this team skyrocket because 1210 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, the defense is probably a lockstock and barrel situation. 1211 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and you're looking at you know, we 1212 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: have the ability to sit back and look at the 1213 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: big picture and say all that, But this also comes 1214 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 1: down to the nitty gritty nuts. And bolts of a season. 1215 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: When you're in a game and you need to play 1216 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 1: here and you need to play there, it comes to 1217 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: more consistency from your quarterback, also consistency from your defense. 1218 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: A mistackle and drop passes, which were a curse on 1219 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill last year. All these little minutia statistics 1220 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: all point to the big picture of the Bills needing 1221 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: to score more points. That was probably their their biggest 1222 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: failing as a club last year. Their coaching staff seemed 1223 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: on it. They just didn't have enough playmakers. And I 1224 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: know this too. You guys do too. During the season 1225 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: when it's all fresh in our minds, everybody points the 1226 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: finger at Brian day Ball or whoever calls a play 1227 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 1: or whoever made the mistake. The simple fact of the 1228 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: matter is this, consistently consistency breeds success. And if Josh 1229 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Allen can be more consistent, if player, if the players 1230 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 1: around him can be more consistent, that's it. The big 1231 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: plays will come to you. You play solid football, the 1232 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 1: big play comes to you, and that that's the way 1233 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 1: it was when I played. It's the way it was 1234 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 1: when I've been covering the NFL, and it's the way 1235 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be going forward. You got to play 1236 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: solid football and when you get the opportunity, the big 1237 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: play will come to you. And while Josh is being 1238 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: asked to do quite a bit as a quarterback always is, 1239 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: and in year three, he's asked again to take a 1240 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: step forward, he's not being asked to carry the entire 1241 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: team on his back. This defense helps propel him into 1242 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: great situations time and time again, and this defense will 1243 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: continue to do that this season just because of how 1244 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: strong they are. And you pair that with Josh taking 1245 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: a step forward in his third year, and I think 1246 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: you have a recipe for success. If he can do 1247 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: what is needed of him, this defense will take the 1248 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 1: team far. This defense will keep the team in just 1249 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 1: about every single game. You look back to the games 1250 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 1: that they lost besides the Eagles game, it was by 1251 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,200 Speaker 1: a touchdown or less. So you get just like Chris 1252 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: was saying, you get one more touchdown, You're in every 1253 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: single game, you're tying, you're winning most every single game. 1254 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: And you mentioned consistency, Steve, and the consistency is across 1255 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,160 Speaker 1: the board. I mean, all we need to do is 1256 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: go back to the playoff game from last year, and 1257 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: I know that Josh Allen was not on target with 1258 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,799 Speaker 1: every one of his forty six pass attempts. But here's 1259 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 1: the deal. Out of forty three targeted passes, you know, 1260 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 1: not throwaways, So forty three of the of the forty 1261 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,879 Speaker 1: six passes were true targets by Josh Allen. Of forty 1262 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: three targets, only twenty five were caught in that game. Now, 1263 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: you can't tell me that Josh Allen, even though he 1264 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 1: is knocked for his inaccuracy, was off on close to 1265 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: forty percent of his throws. He just was not. I 1266 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,720 Speaker 1: distinctly remember a drop pass in the end zone that 1267 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: was certainly catchubal by Duke Williams. Not to bag on him, 1268 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: but he had two Williams had ten targets in the game. 1269 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 1: He had four receptions. I mean, it's got to get 1270 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: better in other places besides the quarterback. It just does. Yeah, 1271 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: And there's no question that you think back to that 1272 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: game and we can dissect that playoff game, you know, 1273 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: million different ways. One thing that is positive and I 1274 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: know that we tend to we always spent it positive here. 1275 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: But the thing I liked about the Duke Williams stats 1276 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: from that game wasn't the you know, four catches on 1277 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: ten targets. It was the fact that Duke Williams was 1278 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 1: the guy that the Houston Texans decided they were gonna 1279 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 1: let go one on one and they were gonna cover 1280 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 1: up Beasley, they were gonna cover up John Brown, and 1281 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: they were gonna let him pick from Dawson Knox and 1282 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 1: Duke Williams and Josh saw it and took it and 1283 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 1: made some really nice throws. To believe, you have to 1284 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: also believe that's what prompted them to make the move 1285 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,240 Speaker 1: for Dicks. Sure, exactly what they saw in that game 1286 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 1: exactly because that's where their achilles heel was. Last year, 1287 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: they had guys rotating through the third wide receiver. We 1288 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: had different starters. Duke Williams was there a couple times 1289 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He was it was him the last 1290 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: guy standing, and then that's where they ended up. And 1291 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: that's what you could tell the Houston Texans saw in 1292 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 1: our own team. So Mattie, thanks for showing up. That 1293 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: was awesome. Thanks for dropping in. I know you guys 1294 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 1: you stay busy during the week when you're not on 1295 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: the show, so I appreciate you taking the time. No problem. 1296 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 1: Happy to be on good talking with you guys. All right, 1297 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 1: we're here till three o'clock. Coming up later in the show. 1298 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: Dad Brown from w RCTV and Rochester sports director there 1299 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 1: in Rochester, gonna come on and talk to us. He's 1300 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: also the Bills preseason guy for the television broadcast when 1301 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: there are preseason games. Steve Tasker Chris Brown coming back 1302 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 1: after the break One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health. 1303 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Lives. 1304 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Step Tasker Chris Brown. We've been talking about what your 1305 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: expectations are for the Buffalo Bills as they start training camp. 1306 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Giving the uncertainty surrounding the season. A lot of has 1307 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 1: happened since the last time anybody took the field, and 1308 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 1: we all went through free agency together, we all went 1309 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: through the draft together, virtually. This pandemic has been a 1310 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,600 Speaker 1: part of all of our lives and one of the 1311 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 1: things that gets washed and particularly here in Western New York. 1312 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: It is not so much in Green Bay, Wisconsin, but 1313 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: here in Western New York kind of forget about the 1314 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Love draft pick of the Green Bay Packers, and 1315 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: we and our friend Kyle Brand had a conversation with 1316 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers about what he was doing and what 1317 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,719 Speaker 1: happened when the Packers picked a quarterback when they already 1318 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame quarterback in the room, Which 1319 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 1: is exactly what happened to Brett Farve when they when 1320 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: the pack picked Aaron Rodgers in the first round of 1321 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:44,440 Speaker 1: the draft, Packers traded up and took a quarterback. Interesting 1322 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 1: stuff about how I don't know, I don't want to 1323 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: say unaffected he was by it, but he you know, 1324 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 1: obviously he was like, oh, what's what's the because it's 1325 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: a business and all that. But you know what, the 1326 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: thing that got me was he went over, poured himself 1327 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: four fingers of liquor and sat back because he knew 1328 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,759 Speaker 1: his phone and his evening was just ruined because everybody's 1329 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: gonna be up calling him to see how he was 1330 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: holding up. Yeah, it was like a here it comes. 1331 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: And then I think, and then I think when he 1332 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 1: got up the next morning, and you know, it took 1333 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 1: a couple of aspirin. He was also thinking to himself, 1334 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: this is probably the beginning of the end, because we've 1335 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 1: seen it, Steve. This league is cyclical in every way, 1336 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 1: and the shoes on the other foot. Now he's Brett Farve. Yeah, 1337 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,719 Speaker 1: and I don't have a problem with it. It Brett 1338 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Farve played four years with him on the roster. He 1339 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: knows how long he can hang in there and as 1340 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 1: long as I think. But I think that draft choice 1341 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 1: makes the finite nature of your career, even as a quarterback, 1342 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 1: more real, doesn't it. Sure, I get it and ask real, Yeah, 1343 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: now it's real. But the guy's a long term veteran anyway, 1344 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 1: He's won a Super Bowl, He's had multiple fantastic years. 1345 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's an eye iconic figure in the National 1346 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 1: Football League, not just in Green Bay, all around the league. 1347 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 1: He's made phenomenal plays throughout his career. And he's one 1348 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 1: of those guys that's kind of larger than the football. 1349 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,640 Speaker 1: We all found out when he broke up with his 1350 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 1: last girlfriend here a couple of weeks ago. I mean, 1351 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 1: that's how big the guy is. I mean, he's so 1352 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 1: I think it shows great security self awareness on his 1353 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 1: part that he's like, oh, now I gotta listen to 1354 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,640 Speaker 1: all these people calling me about how I'm doing now 1355 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: that the Packers have gotten another quarterback in the first round. 1356 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,639 Speaker 1: He seemed very much more so than he was given 1357 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 1: credit for of like shrugging his shoulders and saying whatever, 1358 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: you know. I think he's to that extent, but that 1359 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think he's been in the league 1360 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,439 Speaker 1: long enough to know that he can't worry about stuff 1361 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 1: he can't control. He doesn't run the team, so all 1362 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: he can do is go out and light it up 1363 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: on the field on Sundays. So anything short of that 1364 01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,640 Speaker 1: to a great degree is out of his control. But 1365 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: I do think there is the realization now that you know, 1366 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:09,759 Speaker 1: the fox ticking on my career and certainly my tenure 1367 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I mean, he could very well finish 1368 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: his career somewhere else. We've seen a lot of the 1369 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 1: greats do it, whether it's far Manning, Brady, I mean, 1370 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: run down the list. It doesn't matter how good you 1371 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 1: are when you get to the end and NFL clubs 1372 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 1: think they have someone to replace you. Everyone's replaceable in 1373 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 1: this league. Yeah, maybe more so than maybe more so 1374 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 1: than any other league. And and so now there is 1375 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 1: a name to put to the title of Aaron Rodgers' successor, 1376 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: and I just think it makes it more real for Rogers. 1377 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I'll bet he takes one hundred percent 1378 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: of the snaps that mean that are meaningful this season 1379 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: for the Packers, and he takes one hundred percent of 1380 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: the snaps next year that are meaningful. And I'll bet 1381 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 1: you third year there's gonna be there's gonna be blood 1382 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: in the water if they try and get him off 1383 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: the field, because the guy's not gonna be able to 1384 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: do it their guide. I don't think Jordan loves is 1385 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna be anywhere near the quarterback Aaron Rodgers is for 1386 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, not this year, not next year, and 1387 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,720 Speaker 1: probably not the year after. I think there's some rawn 1388 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,679 Speaker 1: as to his game. I don't think there's any debate 1389 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: about that. He's certainly well. How many quarterboard backs can 1390 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: you name that are as pinpoint accurate as Aaron Rodgers, 1391 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 1: whether standing in the pocket or on the run. I 1392 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 1: mean there might be two were talking breeze and that 1393 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: might be it. That that matches hurs of accuracy. Yeah, 1394 01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 1: Ben's a good arm and he's really accurate. Um they 1395 01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 1: throw the ball, read both of them throw it really well. 1396 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: Ben's like that. Philip Rivers is pretty good like that. 1397 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: But that you know, you're talking a handful of iconic 1398 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame guys. That's right. So and he's in 1399 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: that conversation and and Jordan Love, I don't know the kid. 1400 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't, but I'm saying, you're rolling the dice. I'm 1401 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: thinking I'm betting against it. But he's going to be 1402 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 1: the next guy in that line. Yeah, he had a 1403 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 1: better uh, twenty eighteen season than twenty nineteen season, Jordan Love, 1404 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 1: and that was due to a lot of players lost 1405 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 1: to graduation. I mean, he had a skeleton crew working 1406 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,839 Speaker 1: around him last year. I think that hurt his numbers, 1407 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 1: hurt his efficiency in trying to be fair to him, 1408 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,479 Speaker 1: because I mean he was he was a wonder kin 1409 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 1: the year before when he had a much better roster 1410 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: around him. Um, but there is no way that he 1411 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: comes within the stratosphere of Aaron Rodgers this year and 1412 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: probably next year. So yeah, that's no question. And the 1413 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: simple fact the matter is what this comes down to, Brownie, somebody, 1414 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 1: well you know who it is is the GM um Well, 1415 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy's the president, CEO Bryant is them. That's the guy. 1416 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 1: That's the guy who rolled the dice on his own career. 1417 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Because if Jordan Love doesn't keep up the succession of 1418 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks from Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers and now Jordan Love. 1419 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 1: Gudha Counts just hitched his wagon to the wrong to 1420 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 1: the wrong player, and that's going to cost him. That 1421 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: is an enormous roll of the dice. When you've got 1422 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you must you've got to believed, totally convinced, 1423 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: no question about it, without regard for anything in the future, 1424 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: that this guy, Jordan Love is going to be every 1425 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 1: bit the quarterback that Aaron Rodgers has been and Brett 1426 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,719 Speaker 1: Farve before him. Was probably whatever reason, and you probably 1427 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 1: could have waited a year or two to make that call. 1428 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, you could have bought yourself more time, help 1429 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback that's actually playing for you and draft a receiver. 1430 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 1: So and by the way, for obvious reasons, you're the 1431 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 1: only guy that was thinking that. Well, presumably, yes, there's 1432 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 1: there's I mean, what other GM traded up for Jordan Love. Well, 1433 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 1: we don't know. I mean, if if the Packers don't 1434 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 1: make that move, does somebody else do it at the 1435 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,720 Speaker 1: end of round one? Maybe they were. I mean, all 1436 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 1: indications going into the draft, Steve were that there were 1437 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 1: a pool of GMS that were super high on Jordan 1438 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 1: Love and what he had to offer. Some people were 1439 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: saying they saw the next Pat Mahomes. They were even 1440 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:34,640 Speaker 1: going that far. And let's not forget it. It was 1441 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 1: a hung jury on Pat Mahomes when he came out. 1442 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: Some people thought he was going to be the greatest 1443 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 1: thing since sliced bread, and the other half were like, man, 1444 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,000 Speaker 1: this guy's wild. He's a radic, He runs around, he 1445 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 1: makes crazy throws. I don't know if that's getting in 1446 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. I don't see any consistency to his game. 1447 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the detractors, right, And I think 1448 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: you had the same split decision on Love and what 1449 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:03,919 Speaker 1: he could be. And maybe people were lured into believing 1450 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,679 Speaker 1: more in Jordan Love because of what Pat Mahomes has become. Um, well, 1451 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, we'll never know for sure, but I think 1452 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,919 Speaker 1: you could certainly make the argument that if the Packers 1453 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: didn't make that move, some other quarterback needy team may 1454 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,479 Speaker 1: very well have done the same thing before the first 1455 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: round was over. You can make that argument, but you're 1456 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 1: never going to find out the truth of it. Well yeah, 1457 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: and that's and that's the bait. That's where you can 1458 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 1: say anything you want in that argument if you're if 1459 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 1: you're anybody but the green Bay Packers. The Packers can 1460 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,120 Speaker 1: say that. But until somebody comes out and says, yeah, 1461 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,680 Speaker 1: we liked him too, nobody's gonna do that and I 1462 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 1: don't and I have he's gonna do that until Jordan 1463 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 1: loves Great. Yeah, even so, Brownie, unless the guy is great, great, 1464 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 1: it's the wrong move at this time. You got Aaron 1465 01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers a game away from the super Bowl, and you're 1466 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 1: getting a guy who's not going to get on the 1467 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,960 Speaker 1: field for two years with a number one draft pick, 1468 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 1: with all those wide receivers on the board, with game 1469 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 1: changers on the board, for a quarterback that needs game 1470 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 1: changers to get one more win and take you to 1471 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That is a bad move, in my book, 1472 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,800 Speaker 1: is a bad move you're talking about you need this 1473 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 1: is a win now, man, You gotta win every week. 1474 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 1: You just went thirteen and three last years. So I 1475 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,599 Speaker 1: think the general consensus in Green Bay was, all right, 1476 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 1: we went thirteen to three last year. Let's reload. Let's 1477 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 1: add some talent on the offensive side of the ball, 1478 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 1: help Rogers out a little bit more. Maybe invest in 1479 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,920 Speaker 1: some defensive players to tighten that side of the ball up. 1480 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,800 Speaker 1: And here we go while Rogers still has two or 1481 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 1: three good years left and from the second round down 1482 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 1: now and they went whatever draft picks you have left 1483 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 1: after trading to get up, well, yeah, and they just 1484 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,200 Speaker 1: they went in the complete opposite direction. That's nuts. I mean, 1485 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,879 Speaker 1: can you I mean to me, it is at best 1486 01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:58,960 Speaker 1: a sideways move. At best, you got Aaron Rodgers who's 1487 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: winning thirteen games a year and you're you're not helping him. 1488 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,679 Speaker 1: I just it just seem that boggles my mind. Yeah, 1489 01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,679 Speaker 1: especially knowing he's got two to three years left where 1490 01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 1: he's going to offer you premiere level type play. I 1491 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 1: think that's that's safe to assume at least one or 1492 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 1: two more premier years from him from a production perspective 1493 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 1: and everything that we've seen him do for so long. 1494 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 1: So get him. And here's the other thing, Steve, just 1495 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,799 Speaker 1: based on your own self preservation, if you had the choice, 1496 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 1: knowing Aaron Rodgers has two to three more good years 1497 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: left in him, do you invest to help him or 1498 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: do you invest in the future after he's done playing. 1499 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:53,759 Speaker 1: I mean that's an easy call for me. Well, yeah, Dgers, 1500 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Now you win, Now, because here's what's gonna happen. In 1501 01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,360 Speaker 1: two or three years. You're gonna be forced to find 1502 01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: a new guy. Even if Aaron Rodgers, I mean, he's 1503 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 1: not gonna fall off the face of the earth. This 1504 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 1: next year, you're gonna need a guy. You're gonna need 1505 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 1: to help him as much as you can. You need, 1506 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,680 Speaker 1: you need. All you needed was fourteen wins, you know, 1507 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl instead, you know what 1508 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,479 Speaker 1: I mean? Fifteen wins, two more wins for the year 1509 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 1: and to get to the super Bowl. I don't know. 1510 01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,040 Speaker 1: That's just to me, I think that whole scenario makes 1511 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: no sense. Like you said, from a general manager who's 1512 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 1: kind of trying to stay detached from it and from 1513 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 1: a guy who's trying to win right now at all costs. 1514 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 1: Neither one of those things makes sense to me. It 1515 01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,120 Speaker 1: doesn't compute. There we go. That's the NFL in which 1516 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,360 Speaker 1: we live. Steve Tasher, Chris Brown coming along. We've got 1517 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: Fad Brown of w ROC coming up at the top 1518 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: of the hour. One Bills Live presented by kalidah Health 1519 01:22:48,560 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives. 1520 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,799 Speaker 1: Few Tasker Chris Brown here if you until three o'clock. 1521 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Coming up at the two o'clock hour, Fat Brown under 1522 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 1: the roc Rochester Sports director there. It's got some thoughts 1523 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: on what's going on with training camp. We've got a 1524 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of things to talk about with him. We also 1525 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 1: had a conversation with Mattie Glab about the Bills defense 1526 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,600 Speaker 1: and what your expectations are for the Bills in the 1527 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 1: upcoming season. There's a we have the tw Twitter poll 1528 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 1: going on. Thirty seven percent of you think the Bills 1529 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,840 Speaker 1: are gonna win a playoff game this year, twenty seven 1530 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:33,680 Speaker 1: and a half percent of you think they're gonna win 1531 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 1: the East, twenty three percent if you think they're gonna 1532 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 1: win more than one playoff game, and twelve percent if 1533 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna win the actual Super Bowl. A 1534 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:43,800 Speaker 1: lot going on Brown. We've also got a lot of 1535 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,439 Speaker 1: feedback on the tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan 1536 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,799 Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment movers of the Buffalo Bills. 1537 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 1: What's your favorite one on the tweet sheet? I kind 1538 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: of like this one. It's from Jack he said, I 1539 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 1: expect the Bills to compete for a division title, obviously, 1540 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and win a playoff game for the 1541 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,600 Speaker 1: first time since Tasker was in the lineup. We have 1542 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 1: the talent in depth up and down the roster of 1543 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,879 Speaker 1: the defense to style me the opposition, and the coaching 1544 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:14,440 Speaker 1: to get it done. Steve, this is a stark reminder 1545 01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 1: of how long it's been since a playoff victory. Good 1546 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: God Almighty. I know because I'm an old man, and 1547 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 1: it's yeah, a long time ago, A long time ago. 1548 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,560 Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five. You know when that was? You know 1549 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: how long ago that was? That game that we won, 1550 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,440 Speaker 1: the last playoff game that the Bills won the Dolphins 1551 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 1: was Don Shula's final game. If that's how long ago 1552 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 1: it was. As that's the David White interception game, right, 1553 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't. You made an interception. I 1554 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:53,600 Speaker 1: had a touchdown. That was two years before I quit. Yeah, 1555 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's so long ago I was. I 1556 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 1: was actually in the stands for that game. I was 1557 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 1: not covering the team full time yet, it was only 1558 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 1: part time, and I was in the tunnel end zone, 1559 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,800 Speaker 1: uh for that game. And I still remember exactly where 1560 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 1: David White was on the field when he made that interception, 1561 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: probably with like four minutes left or something, which kind 1562 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 1: of sealed the deal. That game was over early though. 1563 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that game was over early. Yeah. My 1564 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,160 Speaker 1: touchdown was kind of the nail on it. I caught 1565 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 1: it in the in the end zone the scoreboard end 1566 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,200 Speaker 1: zone near, wasn't it. Yeah. It was a little corner 1567 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,200 Speaker 1: route and I was single covered and Jim loved to 1568 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 1: throw that route and you know, and whatever. I mean, 1569 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,840 Speaker 1: the game, Yeah, the Dolphins pulled the plug right. Then 1570 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 1: they pulled the plug right and they were done. So yeah, okay, 1571 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,719 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago? I can remember. It was also 1572 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 1: the last division title year, right, so there you go. 1573 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Also all right from that? Here another one from the 1574 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Nick t He says there's too much 1575 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,000 Speaker 1: uncertain to even affected a Vision title. All it takes 1576 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,479 Speaker 1: is one key player getting COVID like a quarterback, and 1577 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,840 Speaker 1: a team can sink. I wonder if this year's Super 1578 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 1: Bowl winner will always have an asterix by their title 1579 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,679 Speaker 1: in the public's eye because the season is so unusual. Yeah, 1580 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 1: I agree with some of what Nick refers to. There's 1581 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:24,559 Speaker 1: always gonna be an extra added bit of baggage no 1582 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,720 Speaker 1: matter what happens in this season. Although Brownie if if 1583 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:35,519 Speaker 1: the season goes off without a hitch, then probably not well, right, 1584 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: I think the only thing that could compromise that is 1585 01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 1: you get to a playoff game and one of the 1586 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: playoff teams loses their starting QB to COVID. Right then 1587 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I think the asterisk comes right out again. Wow, you 1588 01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have one if you had to play Rogers, you know, 1589 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But also it also it could 1590 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,040 Speaker 1: happen like this though, Brownie even think about it two 1591 01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 1: years ago or three years ago. Now, if the Rams 1592 01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 1: in their trip to the Super Bowl with Sean McVay 1593 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:08,519 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots, the New Orleans Saints are gonna say, 1594 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 1: you shouldn't even have been there, right because of the 1595 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: note call in the championship game. Yeah yeah, I mean 1596 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 1: you could slice it a whole bunch of different ways. 1597 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 1: Where I think it could get really sticky is if 1598 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 1: different teams have a different total number of games due 1599 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,720 Speaker 1: to postponements or cancelations or lack of time left on 1600 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 1: the schedule to reschedule games. So then you have a 1601 01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 1: team that only played eleven games and only four of 1602 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: them were in their division, but they have more wins, 1603 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: so they advance on winning percentage and stuff like that. Yeah, 1604 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 1: don't even start. I mean, I get it. If you 1605 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,600 Speaker 1: look at what real big asterisks start dropping out and 1606 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 1: people get ticked off. If in twenty years people look 1607 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 1: back and they're saying, what the hell's going on here? 1608 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 1: This team only got twelve games, and this one's got sixteen, 1609 01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 1: and this one's I eight. What you know if it 1610 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,480 Speaker 1: looks like that, yeah, then I can see the asterix. 1611 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,000 Speaker 1: But they won't put the asterix in the record books. 1612 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 1: I know that, So we'll see. I'll read you one 1613 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: more here from Dinah. I may be overly optimistic, but 1614 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 1: at this point I'm expecting multiple playoff wins. The season 1615 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,880 Speaker 1: may end abruptly, but if it doesn't, I think they 1616 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,640 Speaker 1: will do well. That seems to be a general consensus. 1617 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 1: Or isn't that the leader in the clubhouse right now? 1618 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Multiple playoff wins. The more the leader in the clubhouse 1619 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,080 Speaker 1: is a win a playoff game, one playoff game. That's 1620 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: the incremental take one more step than last year, right exactly? 1621 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 1: Then you know, slightly in second place is win in 1622 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 1: the division? Okay? And then and I get that when 1623 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:50,320 Speaker 1: in the divisions, don't sell that short because that means 1624 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 1: you get a home playoff game as well, and that 1625 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,720 Speaker 1: that's one sets up the other, no question about it. 1626 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 1: Although in a season where there's probably not gonna be 1627 01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:59,720 Speaker 1: any fans in the stands, is not going to be 1628 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 1: quite the same weight as it would in normal years. 1629 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 1: I still think when in the division is kind of 1630 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,320 Speaker 1: a bigger deal because it gets you a few few 1631 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: other perks, like a home playoff game. Last one from 1632 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,639 Speaker 1: this tweet sheet from Brian Cook, he says my prediction 1633 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: the season will be scrapped or cut short. Baseball can 1634 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: barely play games right now and they don't even have 1635 01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:27,240 Speaker 1: much physical contact. Will be lucky to see any postseason 1636 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:31,160 Speaker 1: football for any teams. I hope I'm wrong. Yeah, I 1637 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,080 Speaker 1: do too, Brian. And it's easy to see that when 1638 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 1: you when you look at baseball and what they're going through. 1639 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,920 Speaker 1: I know this, there is there are some differences that 1640 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:42,760 Speaker 1: make it. I think subtle differences that make a big differences, 1641 01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,759 Speaker 1: a vast difference. The difference for me would be travel 1642 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,520 Speaker 1: of the teams and the multitude of options the outside 1643 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 1: of the facilities and outside of their clubhouses. These guys 1644 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 1: got to get out and around in strange cities. They're 1645 01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 1: in strange hotels, they're in airplanes, they're you know, they're 1646 01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 1: two and from there in taxis, buses, whatever, all of 1647 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,280 Speaker 1: this stuff going on, and they have to do that 1648 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,280 Speaker 1: to move around just to play a game today and 1649 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,519 Speaker 1: tomorrow and the next day. The NFL it's a one 1650 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 1: game a week scenario, and they can clear the decks 1651 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 1: a little easier for one trip a week, right, And 1652 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, suppose outside the facility and the Bills have 1653 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 1: multiple West Coast trips, they are somewhat spread out on 1654 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 1: the schedule as it currently exists. And you know what 1655 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,000 Speaker 1: COVID also does, and I didn't. We haven't seen this 1656 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:42,200 Speaker 1: under McDermott's tenure because the Bills haven't played the Western 1657 01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:47,320 Speaker 1: divisions until this year under McDermott in their in totality, 1658 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 1: so we didn't know what his philosophy was in terms 1659 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 1: of either getting out to the West Coast to adjust 1660 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 1: to the time earlier or what have you. But that 1661 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,760 Speaker 1: was off the table as soon as this pandemic hit 1662 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,880 Speaker 1: two because the last thing you want to do is 1663 01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,760 Speaker 1: put your players in hotels for two days when it 1664 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 1: only has to be one day. So I'm fully anticipating 1665 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 1: they're they're not leaving until Saturday afternoon, one night in 1666 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,080 Speaker 1: the hotel, player West Coast game and get the heck 1667 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 1: out of Dodge where you know. In years I remember 1668 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 1: back in twenty twelve under Changailey, we've spent an entire 1669 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 1: week out west. They played San Francisco on the road, 1670 01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,760 Speaker 1: and then we flew from there right to Phoenix, spent 1671 01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: the week in Phoenix, played the Cardinals the next week, 1672 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,000 Speaker 1: and then went home. I mean, that is completely off 1673 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,760 Speaker 1: the table, I think for any team, especially those West 1674 01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,760 Speaker 1: Coast teams that like to come east for a week 1675 01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,679 Speaker 1: and practice somewhere and when they have back to back 1676 01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,920 Speaker 1: roadies on the East Coast, which is the harder travel 1677 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,040 Speaker 1: thing to do because you're essentially playing, you know, at 1678 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 1: what is it ten in the morning or a one 1679 01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,200 Speaker 1: o'clock game. So we've had it, we've talked about it, 1680 01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,639 Speaker 1: around it, we've talked right at it. We've said it's 1681 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,400 Speaker 1: flat out it's gonna come down to the players and 1682 01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 1: what they do away from the facilities. We've back more 1683 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,720 Speaker 1: with more Thad Brown coming up from w r OC 1684 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 1: and Rochester after the break, Steve Tasker and Chris Brown 1685 01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,840 Speaker 1: here till three o'clock one Bills Live presented by Kalida 1686 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:14,200 Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Oh a great time. I'll 1687 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:34,120 Speaker 1: watch Steve Claspers Down Down, Down Time. Welcome back to 1688 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,559 Speaker 1: our number three of one Bill's Live Steve task Along 1689 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,360 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown, We're pleased to be joined on the 1690 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,799 Speaker 1: line now by w r OCTV sports director in Rochester 1691 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,439 Speaker 1: and Bill's preseason television sideline reporter Thad Brown. Thad Steve 1692 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,559 Speaker 1: Tasker Chris Brown here in Buffalo. How are you doing 1693 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,679 Speaker 1: during the pandemic? Are you safe and well? Doing well? Guys? 1694 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. Uh, you know, just enjoying the last 1695 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,120 Speaker 1: few days of summer here, But certainly I've been doing 1696 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,400 Speaker 1: fine as well as can be expected. This wouldn't have 1697 01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,280 Speaker 1: been summer this would we would have seen you on 1698 01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 1: the sidelines with a camera on your shoulder today. Yeah, 1699 01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,680 Speaker 1: and let me I've been thinking about that too. You know, 1700 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 1: training camp is not my favorite time of year because 1701 01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,479 Speaker 1: it's hot, it's boring. I mean, it's practice, you know, 1702 01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,200 Speaker 1: and you know there's not a whole lot that goes 1703 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,479 Speaker 1: on because there's no games. But man, I would have 1704 01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 1: been so fired up to be standing on the sideline 1705 01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,240 Speaker 1: of Fisher yesterday shooting a practice, watching Josh Allen throw 1706 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, fifty ten yard outs to John Brown and 1707 01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 1: Colebezer whoever. But you know, we'll make the best of it. Yeah, 1708 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: And with the start of training camp, we're starting to 1709 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:35,960 Speaker 1: hear more about guys who are opting out and who 1710 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 1: are you know, deciding either voluntarily or because they have 1711 01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,640 Speaker 1: health issues to sit out the season. What do you 1712 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 1: think it means that the Buffalo Bills have pretty prominent player. 1713 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 1: I think in Star Low two Lelae opting out, I 1714 01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,679 Speaker 1: think it's it's a hit, you know. I think fans 1715 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,680 Speaker 1: generally don't give Star enough credit for what he does. 1716 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,719 Speaker 1: He's a really solid consummate, you know, first and second 1717 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,400 Speaker 1: down run defender from the one tech that you know, 1718 01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:03,280 Speaker 1: the nose ish tackle position, and he will be a loss. 1719 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 1: He's a guy that you know, the Bills is gonna 1720 01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,800 Speaker 1: have to find some sort of way to replace him. Now. 1721 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 1: I think Harrison Phillips is the first candidate, you know, 1722 01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,120 Speaker 1: and I think he can do a solid job there. 1723 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,400 Speaker 1: But we all know Sean mcgrimant likes to rotate his 1724 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,040 Speaker 1: guys and you know, run different tackles on the field, 1725 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,000 Speaker 1: So there's gonna have to be someone else's gonna do it, 1726 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,800 Speaker 1: you know. Could it be Vernon Butler. I think that's 1727 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,240 Speaker 1: a possibility. But you know, the more I think about it, 1728 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,680 Speaker 1: the more I think that this opens the door very 1729 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,680 Speaker 1: wide for Vincent Taylor to make this team. I mean, 1730 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 1: I thought he did good enough last year's subbing for 1731 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,360 Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips when Phillips was out, And I don't know 1732 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,080 Speaker 1: if there's another guy that I trust enough to be 1733 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,040 Speaker 1: that you know, one tack run defender. I mean, I'm 1734 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,679 Speaker 1: not even against the idea of the Bills potentially signing 1735 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,920 Speaker 1: a Damon Harrison at some point off the street to 1736 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 1: fill that job. You know. So I think I think, 1737 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,559 Speaker 1: you know, the Bills that now have a hole they 1738 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 1: need to solve, and there are guys, you know, maybe 1739 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,640 Speaker 1: even a Japanessa could be a guy who could do it. 1740 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,320 Speaker 1: But you know, how they solve that hole, to me, 1741 01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, became one of the more interesting points to 1742 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,880 Speaker 1: camp so far. Yeah, I think that trickle down effect 1743 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,120 Speaker 1: here falls squarely in the lap of Vernon Butler. I mean, 1744 01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,960 Speaker 1: he's a true one technique defensive tackle. He was signed 1745 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,120 Speaker 1: as a free agent, got the most playing time of 1746 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,719 Speaker 1: his career, last year and put up some career numbers, 1747 01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:17,840 Speaker 1: including the sack category. I think that's that's probably your 1748 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: best answer there, provided that he earns it. Harrison Phillips 1749 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 1: is a little bit lighter, but man, that guy is 1750 01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,920 Speaker 1: a leverage winner, and I think he's at least part 1751 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,560 Speaker 1: of the conversation. And then beyond that, I think the 1752 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,720 Speaker 1: other part of this trickle down effect is it means 1753 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,200 Speaker 1: that Quentin Jefferson is probably playing more defensive tackle than 1754 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,320 Speaker 1: rundown end at any point in time because of the 1755 01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,720 Speaker 1: absence that you now have with Latoula lay out for 1756 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 1: the year see Brody. The thing that I can I'm 1757 01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,320 Speaker 1: concerned with with Butler is that, you know, he played 1758 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,040 Speaker 1: a little more on the tackle three tech last year, 1759 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,759 Speaker 1: and that defense wasn't necessarily a straight four three last season, 1760 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,080 Speaker 1: which was the only year he did anything, you know, 1761 01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:03,000 Speaker 1: really you know, worthy of compliments, So you know, sticking 1762 01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:04,840 Speaker 1: him back in a four three where he didn't seem 1763 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 1: to be successful, putting him on the one not that 1764 01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:08,680 Speaker 1: he can't do it, and I agree with you. I 1765 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,120 Speaker 1: think he's a prime candidate for it, but I don't 1766 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,840 Speaker 1: know if that's gonna end up be in the right choice. Yeah. 1767 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: The only reason that I kind of see it going 1768 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,600 Speaker 1: that way is because I think they look at what 1769 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,679 Speaker 1: else they have at defensive tackle and they say, Okay, 1770 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 1: who is most likely to be are penetrating playmakers, And 1771 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if Butler's at the top of that 1772 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,640 Speaker 1: list with who they have left, And so I just 1773 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,880 Speaker 1: think by default that might be the way that they go, 1774 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,880 Speaker 1: knowing they have other players with more burst and suddenness 1775 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,200 Speaker 1: if you will, off the ball, and so I think 1776 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,960 Speaker 1: they may get to a place where they just say, well, 1777 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,519 Speaker 1: let's just have Butler tie up to people and let 1778 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 1: other people like get Oliver, go running, go get the quarterback. 1779 01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,960 Speaker 1: I just I wonder, just from a body type standpoint, 1780 01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,799 Speaker 1: that that's where Butler ends up. But maybe not, because 1781 01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, the defensive line coach here 1782 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 1: was the defensive line coach in Carolina, and he utilized 1783 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 1: Butler in a much different way. So maybe that does 1784 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,800 Speaker 1: some convincing of Leslie Frazier to leave him in the 1785 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,120 Speaker 1: role he had down in Carolina. But I guess we'll 1786 01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,680 Speaker 1: find out sooner rather than later. It's part of the 1787 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 1: hard part of these discussions too, is you know, we're 1788 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,240 Speaker 1: trying to you know, predict or forecast or roster that 1789 01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 1: it has zero practices. I mean, if we had had 1790 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: an OTA session, not that it helps with defensive tackles, 1791 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,040 Speaker 1: but there would have been something. There would have been 1792 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,679 Speaker 1: some you know, indication of where a team was leaning, 1793 01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,080 Speaker 1: what the coaches were thinking, maybe what a guy could do. 1794 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,679 Speaker 1: And you know, right now it's almost all theoretical. Yeah, 1795 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 1: And as we watched, how versatile do you think this 1796 01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,679 Speaker 1: front group is? You got, you know, guys like Trent Murphy, 1797 01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,479 Speaker 1: You got Vincent Taylor that's also in their ed Oliver 1798 01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:53,160 Speaker 1: Vernon Butler, Quinton Jefferson, all these guys, the entire roster 1799 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,479 Speaker 1: of guys. It seems to me they've got plenty of 1800 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,559 Speaker 1: guys who can jump around, and then you've got guys 1801 01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 1: who were kind of stuck on the outside, guys like 1802 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,720 Speaker 1: Darryl Johnson, Jerry Hughes. I think Trent Murphy's kind of 1803 01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to be on the end no 1804 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 1: matter what. As well, do they have enough guys that 1805 01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 1: they can move around and find different combinations? Are they 1806 01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:13,639 Speaker 1: versa little enough upfront to rotate eight guys through? Oh? 1807 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 1: I think absolutely. I think especially against the past. I 1808 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:20,840 Speaker 1: think the different formations that Sean McDermott and you know, 1809 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,120 Speaker 1: Eric Washington Leslie Frazier can throw at a quarterback on 1810 01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,240 Speaker 1: a passing down are mind boggling because you can take 1811 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Mario Addison and play them inside a little bit. Quentin 1812 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 1: Jefferson can be inside or outside. A japan Essa can 1813 01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,679 Speaker 1: even rush inside a little bit. So against the pass, 1814 01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, they have five, six, seven, eight different combinations 1815 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 1: that I'd really like to see the Bills try. It's, 1816 01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, start being the guy who opts out is 1817 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe arguably that one of the tougher hits 1818 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,560 Speaker 1: because you know, against the run, they don't have the 1819 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,840 Speaker 1: variety of guys who are strong in that position. Of course, 1820 01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:55,880 Speaker 1: it's the passing league, so you know, have the two 1821 01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,479 Speaker 1: problems is the one you want to have. But I'm 1822 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,200 Speaker 1: even before start aside not to play this year, I 1823 01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 1: was very interested to see who the number one pass 1824 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 1: rushing D line would be because you know, the last 1825 01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 1: couple of years, Lorenzo Alexanders rushed a lot from the 1826 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 1: tackle on that primary pass rushing D line. I think 1827 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:13,920 Speaker 1: we know it's going to be Addison, Hughes and Oliver 1828 01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:15,920 Speaker 1: who's the fourth guy going to be could be Phillips, 1829 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,680 Speaker 1: could be Jefferson. I like Jefferson a lot. There are 1830 01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,280 Speaker 1: definitely different options in that role. Yeah, And I don't 1831 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,840 Speaker 1: think we can forget the fact that, I mean they 1832 01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,439 Speaker 1: were big on kicking ends inside, whether it was Shack 1833 01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 1: Lawson who was doing that, even Trent Murphy was used inside. 1834 01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,280 Speaker 1: I'll be to a lesser degree because they felt they 1835 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 1: had players with more explosive ability that were ahead of 1836 01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:39,760 Speaker 1: him on the depth chart in terms of the past 1837 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,759 Speaker 1: rush packages. But yeah, they're not afraid to kick people inside. 1838 01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:48,040 Speaker 1: And after aj Epinessa was drafted, Brandon Being even said 1839 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,559 Speaker 1: he's capable of being reduced down inside and pass rushing 1840 01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:54,040 Speaker 1: situations and he can rush with power from there. So 1841 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 1: you also got your top draft choice as an option. 1842 01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,120 Speaker 1: I think the other thing about this too is I 1843 01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 1: wonder if Trent Murphy makes this team. I just don't 1844 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: see and start lootola. They're not playing. I don't think 1845 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,200 Speaker 1: helps this at all, not that it matters a whole lot, 1846 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:09,640 Speaker 1: but I don't know if Murphy is a guy that 1847 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,639 Speaker 1: can fit on this roster, even the salary aside, because 1848 01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,600 Speaker 1: with stars cap number off the cap this year. I 1849 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,439 Speaker 1: don't think affording Murphy's a big deal. But you know, 1850 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,840 Speaker 1: I went through and did a roster projection last night. 1851 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't have Dame Jackson making this team. I don't 1852 01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:25,400 Speaker 1: have Isaiah Hodgins, the sixth round pick, making this team. 1853 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:27,439 Speaker 1: And I don't have Trent Murphy making the team right now. 1854 01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know, you know, with those two draft 1855 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,200 Speaker 1: picks already not being a guy who's on the team, 1856 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how you get Murphy into. So they 1857 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,000 Speaker 1: have so many pass rushing options. They have, you know, 1858 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,479 Speaker 1: three guys at defensive end we know that are sticking. 1859 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, we haven't got the Darrell Johnson last year 1860 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,640 Speaker 1: I thought was okay. So it's I think he's got 1861 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 1: a very uphill climb to make this team. Could you 1862 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 1: see him. We had this conversation earlier in the show 1863 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:52,479 Speaker 1: that this is the time of year when Brandon Being 1864 01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,680 Speaker 1: restructures deals. Do you think it gives Trent Murphy a 1865 01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,600 Speaker 1: better chance at making the roster If he's one of 1866 01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 1: those guys that laid in training camp, you come out 1867 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,040 Speaker 1: and say, hey, they've restructured his deal, He's going to 1868 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,720 Speaker 1: take a less of a cap hit this year, they 1869 01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 1: gave him a little bit of guaranteed money and he 1870 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,720 Speaker 1: took the deal to restructure. I think that may be 1871 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,240 Speaker 1: the way that Trent Murphy sticks. Well, what do you 1872 01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 1: think about that? The only thing with that is he's 1873 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:15,800 Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract and I don't 1874 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 1: know that they want to extend him beyond this year 1875 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,160 Speaker 1: because I think they have his replacement in waiting in 1876 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,320 Speaker 1: aj Epinessa, who's probably going to be a starter as 1877 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,640 Speaker 1: early as next year. So no matter which way you 1878 01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,840 Speaker 1: slice it, whether he makes the teams, this is probably 1879 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,960 Speaker 1: his last season in a Bill's uniform. I mean, I 1880 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,920 Speaker 1: don't want to etch that in stone. But knowing that 1881 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:40,280 Speaker 1: his cap figure might be working against him in training 1882 01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 1: camp this year, especially if Epinessa shows he's NFL ready 1883 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:48,880 Speaker 1: and can play and contribute right now his days, I 1884 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,840 Speaker 1: think it's safe to say he's not long for being 1885 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,519 Speaker 1: in here. And I don't know that he sees another 1886 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,280 Speaker 1: contract in Buffalo or that may be. And the reason 1887 01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 1: they would restructure is to extend him one year, guarantee 1888 01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:02,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of money to make it worth it 1889 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,000 Speaker 1: for him to stay, and then get him off the 1890 01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,600 Speaker 1: books completely next year. While knowing he's not going to 1891 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:10,800 Speaker 1: be around. I mean, it's possible, it won't hurt, but 1892 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, to me, Trent Murphy's the guy that I 1893 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,519 Speaker 1: would lay a whole lot of money on being someone 1894 01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,600 Speaker 1: who's traded to some other team at the end of 1895 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,600 Speaker 1: August for a fifth, sixth round pick, which is what 1896 01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:21,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's been doing mostly with the offensive lineman in 1897 01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 1: the last few years. But he has all the earmarks 1898 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,400 Speaker 1: will be in that guy this year, right. And on 1899 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:32,840 Speaker 1: top of that, you have to wonder too, how this 1900 01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,479 Speaker 1: whole COVID situation factors into this kind of decision making. 1901 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,680 Speaker 1: I think in any normal off season, could he be 1902 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:45,400 Speaker 1: a trade candidate, sure, could he be you know, a 1903 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:51,800 Speaker 1: victim of his cap figure? Sure? But with COVID, you 1904 01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,400 Speaker 1: could get to the last week of padded practice before 1905 01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:59,000 Speaker 1: the regular season and you got two defensive ends that 1906 01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 1: test positive, and now you suddenly have a dearth of 1907 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,680 Speaker 1: players and you're hoping, like heck, you got somebody like 1908 01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,160 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy you can lean on for those first two 1909 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,439 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. So it's going to be interesting 1910 01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:15,320 Speaker 1: to see how much COVID changes the normal process of 1911 01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 1: doing business and building for the future and giving young 1912 01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:24,880 Speaker 1: players a greater opportunity when you know anybody on your 1913 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,640 Speaker 1: roster at the drop of a hat may not be 1914 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 1: available for two weeks. I mean, I suppose there's some 1915 01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,679 Speaker 1: an element of that to football anyway, with the injury rate, 1916 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,920 Speaker 1: but to me, this is different. Yeah. We're Steve Task 1917 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 1: with Chris Brown on One Bill's Lie. We're speaking to 1918 01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,960 Speaker 1: Thad Brown of WROCTV sports director in Rochester. At Thad, 1919 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 1: we talked about these roster and we spent some time 1920 01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,400 Speaker 1: on the defensive line. Let's talk a little bit about 1921 01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:52,720 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room because it's gonna get it got 1922 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:57,519 Speaker 1: really crowded, really fast with the addition of just one guy, 1923 01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,479 Speaker 1: Steph Diggs. Because when you put a guy at the top, 1924 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of the roster starts to get a little 1925 01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,200 Speaker 1: bit dicey. Guys are just looking for a spot in 1926 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:07,559 Speaker 1: a way to contribute. And the last two or three 1927 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:11,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers on this roster better be either return guys 1928 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,840 Speaker 1: or special teams guys because they may not see the 1929 01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,840 Speaker 1: field catch passes. Well, it's not just Stefan Diggs, it's 1930 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis too. We gotta remember the Bills invested a 1931 01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,519 Speaker 1: fourth round pick in a receiver in a receiver draft 1932 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,960 Speaker 1: that was so deep that you know, you could probably 1933 01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 1: say in a normal year of fourth round picks going 1934 01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,760 Speaker 1: in the third round, fifth and the fourth, etc. So, look, 1935 01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,559 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis is not going anywhere. This is a guy 1936 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:34,479 Speaker 1: that has to make the roster. You expose him to 1937 01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,760 Speaker 1: a waiver, he's gone, and you've you know, you've basically 1938 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,559 Speaker 1: pissed away a fourth round pick. So you've got Diggs 1939 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,160 Speaker 1: and Brown and Beasley who are on the team. You've 1940 01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,080 Speaker 1: got Davis who's on the team, and then you're right, 1941 01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,000 Speaker 1: then you've got to have a special team's option. So 1942 01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,599 Speaker 1: I think you know, the return man you gotta keeps 1943 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:54,439 Speaker 1: Andre Roberts. So we've already locked up five wide receiver spots. 1944 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,760 Speaker 1: I really only think there's room for us six. And 1945 01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:58,639 Speaker 1: to me, you know, comes down to do you keep 1946 01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,800 Speaker 1: the draft pick Isaiah Hodgen to again as a sixth rounder, 1947 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 1: probably has fifth or even fourth round worth in another year, 1948 01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,599 Speaker 1: or do he kept ISAAMH McKenzie, who's been a nice, 1949 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, extra dimension for your offense. And this is 1950 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,280 Speaker 1: still an offense that even with Diggs, this is not 1951 01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and a you know, pass it fifty times 1952 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,720 Speaker 1: a game. This is an offense that probably runs the 1953 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,400 Speaker 1: ball more than most teams will. I know they threw 1954 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,080 Speaker 1: it a lot for a second down last year. But 1955 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,000 Speaker 1: to have that extra option in McKenzie, if you get 1956 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,720 Speaker 1: rid of that, do you have John Brown do that? 1957 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:27,720 Speaker 1: The f step on Diggs do it? Do you throw 1958 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,000 Speaker 1: the way that option? That part of your playbook out altogether? 1959 01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,679 Speaker 1: These are some of the questions that you know, Brian 1960 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,680 Speaker 1: Dabele and Sean mcdermmick got a face and you know, 1961 01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 1: at this point, I like having that end a round 1962 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:39,400 Speaker 1: option with McKenzie, So I would keep him and try 1963 01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,719 Speaker 1: and see if I get Hodgens out of my practice squad. 1964 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:43,960 Speaker 1: But you know, these are decisions you gotta make. And 1965 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,720 Speaker 1: we even talked about Robert Foster or Duke McKenzie or 1966 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,720 Speaker 1: Duke Williams at all. So there's there's guys that the 1967 01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:51,439 Speaker 1: Bills will not be able to keep that can play 1968 01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:54,360 Speaker 1: in this league. Right And what if there is one 1969 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 1: advantage to the COVID season of twenty twenty, it's the 1970 01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,080 Speaker 1: expanded practice squad and the ability to protect four of 1971 01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:06,120 Speaker 1: those players on your sixteen man practice squad. So if 1972 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 1: Hodgens is somebody you believe in, but maybe he's just 1973 01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,680 Speaker 1: like not quite ready yet, or maybe he doesn't measure up, 1974 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 1: or you didn't see enough of him. Because you don't 1975 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,400 Speaker 1: have a preseason, you can put them on your practice 1976 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,640 Speaker 1: squad and make him one of your protected four. So 1977 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:23,240 Speaker 1: there's there is there's one advantage to the COVID season 1978 01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,519 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty that might be it if you're really 1979 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,600 Speaker 1: really position is it for sure that you don't have 1980 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,840 Speaker 1: to put those guys through waivers? First? I thought, I'm 1981 01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,559 Speaker 1: not sure, but I thought the whole practice squad after 1982 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,680 Speaker 1: the main cut, the fifty three cut and August, those 1983 01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 1: guys would still have to go through waivers. Yeah, but 1984 01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,080 Speaker 1: I think there's well I'll have to read it again, 1985 01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 1: but I thought there were four players you could protect 1986 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,479 Speaker 1: there on the expanded practice squad, So may you keep 1987 01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,840 Speaker 1: our fifty seven man rosters what they're they're having nobody do? 1988 01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,439 Speaker 1: It seems well it read that way. I'll go back 1989 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:58,080 Speaker 1: and read it again, but and see if I misread 1990 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,840 Speaker 1: it or misinterpreted it. But it seemed to me that 1991 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,600 Speaker 1: they were expanding the roster on the practice squad on 1992 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 1: purpose to obviously have more players readily available, and then 1993 01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:12,240 Speaker 1: knowing that more often than not, practice squad players don't 1994 01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,479 Speaker 1: quite measure up to what you have on your active roster. 1995 01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,240 Speaker 1: I think they were trying to keep some semblance of 1996 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,719 Speaker 1: a good on field product by giving teams the ability 1997 01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,320 Speaker 1: to keep four players on there that other teams can't 1998 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,880 Speaker 1: poach off of you. So I don't know, I'll have 1999 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,760 Speaker 1: to go back and read it again. The case that's 2000 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,360 Speaker 1: the case, they're gonna be able to protect four guys 2001 01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 1: and basically keep fifty seven out of camp. I think 2002 01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:37,200 Speaker 1: Trent Murphy for exactly the reason you brought up, going 2003 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,560 Speaker 1: back to that conversation, to have a guy around in 2004 01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,479 Speaker 1: case you have a defensive end go down. Murphy's gonna 2005 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:43,880 Speaker 1: be on that for the Bills that they can't find 2006 01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,040 Speaker 1: a trade they like, and I think Hodgens hits that. 2007 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,000 Speaker 1: I think Dane Jackson again hits that four man group two. 2008 01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,439 Speaker 1: It still doesn't, you know, change the decisions they have 2009 01:47:51,479 --> 01:47:53,599 Speaker 1: at wide receiver and whether or not they keep Isa 2010 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,800 Speaker 1: McKenzie slad. We've saved the sixty four dollar question for 2011 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 1: the end of the interview. What's your feeling about how 2012 01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,560 Speaker 1: big an impact COVID is gonna have going forward. You 2013 01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,479 Speaker 1: got to think that at some point there's gonna be 2014 01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:08,320 Speaker 1: positive tests somewhere around the league, whether it's going to 2015 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,360 Speaker 1: be a trickle effect or whether it's going to be 2016 01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,240 Speaker 1: an avalanche that comes out of nowhere and shuts the 2017 01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:16,200 Speaker 1: whole thing down. What's your gut feeling about how far 2018 01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 1: the league will get down the road before it really 2019 01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,719 Speaker 1: starts to have to make some serious concessions to COVID. 2020 01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be too far down the road. 2021 01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,360 Speaker 1: And you know, watching this Marlin situation play out has 2022 01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:31,160 Speaker 1: been you know that this is the big example. This 2023 01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,040 Speaker 1: is the big you know, watching learn opportunity for the NFL. 2024 01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,200 Speaker 1: I think it's been good so far that the Phillies 2025 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,600 Speaker 1: are not tested positive. To me, that's that's where it 2026 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:43,000 Speaker 1: gets disastrous. If the Phillies, just sharing a field with 2027 01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,559 Speaker 1: the Marlins, start contracting COVID and it spreads through their 2028 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,600 Speaker 1: locker room. But then we've got a big problem for 2029 01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,120 Speaker 1: all these sports, football and baseball that are not going 2030 01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 1: to play in a bubble. But so far it's just 2031 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,400 Speaker 1: been the Marlins. Hopefully it's going to be remain on 2032 01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,720 Speaker 1: one off and we go forward that way. But I 2033 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,800 Speaker 1: think what the NFL should realize from this is that 2034 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:04,120 Speaker 1: there is I think almost zero chance this league plays 2035 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,400 Speaker 1: all sixteen games all in a row. They got to 2036 01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,920 Speaker 1: be able to change the schedule at some point. They 2037 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,679 Speaker 1: got to be able to react like Baseball did, rearrange games, 2038 01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,800 Speaker 1: do it on the fly. They better have a plan 2039 01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,719 Speaker 1: because some game is not going to happen this year. Bad. 2040 01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:20,880 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, man, I appreciate you taking some time. 2041 01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:22,960 Speaker 1: I hope we get a chance to see at some point, 2042 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:27,120 Speaker 1: probably from a socially distanced, safe, safe place, but great 2043 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:28,880 Speaker 1: talking to you. Thanks for coming on with us today, 2044 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,479 Speaker 1: you guys. To Steve, I'm always socially distanced with you, man, 2045 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:36,599 Speaker 1: I can't get too close. Thanks. That will be that's 2046 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,519 Speaker 1: last appearance with us here on one bost Time. All right, 2047 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:44,000 Speaker 1: Dad Brown w R OCTV Sports director in Rochester, Steve Tasker, 2048 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, coming back after the break. We've got more 2049 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,400 Speaker 1: to come NFL true false? And what do we learned 2050 01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,840 Speaker 1: coming up after the break? Steve Tasker Chris Brown on 2051 01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,160 Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Clyda Health and Missus Buffalo 2052 01:49:53,240 --> 01:50:01,640 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Welcome back in one of Bill's Live Key 2053 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,719 Speaker 1: cast alone with Chris Brown before we get to NFL 2054 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,400 Speaker 1: Truth Falls, we got some clarity to add. We were 2055 01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:09,360 Speaker 1: talking to Fat Brown last segment about the practice squad 2056 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:14,200 Speaker 1: and there's four guys you can protect on a expanded 2057 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:18,439 Speaker 1: sixteen man practice squad, and Brownie, you found the specifics 2058 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,680 Speaker 1: about it. So I was of the belief that they 2059 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,559 Speaker 1: were able to protect up to four of those sixteen 2060 01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,400 Speaker 1: players from being poached off their practice squad by another 2061 01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:29,400 Speaker 1: team to add to their active roster, which is the 2062 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:33,920 Speaker 1: way practice squads usually work. They're essentially free agents to 2063 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,920 Speaker 1: be active roster ads anywhere in the league while they 2064 01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,479 Speaker 1: serve on a practice squad for a given NFL team. 2065 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,960 Speaker 1: But in this COVID year, they expanded the practice squad 2066 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:46,720 Speaker 1: to sixteen players, and four of them can be protected 2067 01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 1: weekly from being acquired by another team. So you can 2068 01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,280 Speaker 1: designate four players every week and say these are my 2069 01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 1: four untouchables on the practice squad. No team can sign 2070 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:57,559 Speaker 1: them away from us and put them on their fifty 2071 01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:01,920 Speaker 1: three man roster. And my suspicions is that coaches in 2072 01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,760 Speaker 1: these negotiations with the union in the league said, hey, 2073 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,719 Speaker 1: in this season of COVID, we're gonna need extra bodies 2074 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,599 Speaker 1: if we're gonna get through a season. And so they said, look, 2075 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,720 Speaker 1: why don't we just expand the active roster, and I'll 2076 01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,479 Speaker 1: bet owners said, well, I don't know if I want 2077 01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:22,320 Speaker 1: to add four extra regular season active roster salaries. So 2078 01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,000 Speaker 1: then they said, all right, well, why don't we expand 2079 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,879 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Well that's great, but those are probably 2080 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,760 Speaker 1: four players I really like and I don't want to 2081 01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:33,120 Speaker 1: part with because some other team likes my four guys 2082 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,040 Speaker 1: better than his extra four. And so then they probably 2083 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,960 Speaker 1: came to this agreement and decided to put in protection. Okay, 2084 01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 1: we've got four extra guys on the practice squad. You 2085 01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,720 Speaker 1: can pick any four to protect that other teams can't 2086 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:48,320 Speaker 1: take from you. And so and we're thinking now that 2087 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,760 Speaker 1: it also means they can change those four guys week 2088 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,439 Speaker 1: by week. Well yeah, I mean, because the way it reads, 2089 01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:57,000 Speaker 1: it says four of the sixteen players can be protected weekly. 2090 01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 1: And I think the reason it can change is because 2091 01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:04,200 Speaker 1: let's just say you do have an outbreak and those 2092 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,880 Speaker 1: four guys that you've been protecting every week, now they're 2093 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:11,400 Speaker 1: on your active roster permanently. So now you've got new 2094 01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:14,280 Speaker 1: players to protect. On your practice sque Yeah. The key 2095 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,200 Speaker 1: the key word here and the work key phrases I've 2096 01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,200 Speaker 1: heard Sean McDermott use it is that these clubs are 2097 01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:24,519 Speaker 1: really fearful of a positional emergency. Yeah, where they've got 2098 01:52:25,439 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 1: not enough offensive linement, not enough wide receivers, not enough 2099 01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,439 Speaker 1: defensive backs, what have you, to go into a game 2100 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:33,120 Speaker 1: and know that they can get through the game with 2101 01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,360 Speaker 1: guys who actually know how to play the position, that 2102 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,880 Speaker 1: that positional emergency scenario is one thing they're fighting against, 2103 01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:41,240 Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons I thought that the 2104 01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,320 Speaker 1: league would find a way and they have, I guess 2105 01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,320 Speaker 1: to a certain extent of getting more guys ready to 2106 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,840 Speaker 1: play and having guys at the disposal of rosters on 2107 01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:53,519 Speaker 1: the NFL in case of a positional emergency. I thought 2108 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,519 Speaker 1: they would go further than they have, But I guess 2109 01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,519 Speaker 1: the dollars probably got in the way of that pretty quickly, 2110 01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,599 Speaker 1: right because between the new CBA, which increased practice squads 2111 01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:08,280 Speaker 1: to twelve from ten, and the COVID adjustments which added 2112 01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,960 Speaker 1: four what you've essentially added six more players to your roster, 2113 01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,720 Speaker 1: all of which are on the practice squad, four of 2114 01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,000 Speaker 1: which can be protected on a weekly basis. So just 2115 01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,439 Speaker 1: wanted to clarify that for everybody out there, to me, 2116 01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:23,880 Speaker 1: six guys doesn't meet is not enough. I don't think. 2117 01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 1: Let you take what you can get, you know, if 2118 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,439 Speaker 1: you're not the one right the rules. Yeah, that's right, 2119 01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:33,559 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, six, I'll take it whatever. Yeah, yeah, fine, 2120 01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,280 Speaker 1: give me ten no six, fine, Okay, then let's go 2121 01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:39,760 Speaker 1: to Let's go to NFL True false. Brought to you 2122 01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,880 Speaker 1: by Yancey's, Fancy Yancey's, Fancy New York's Artists and Cheese. 2123 01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,719 Speaker 1: This is a great one, this first NFL true false. 2124 01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,840 Speaker 1: You and I both kind of laughed at this when 2125 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,960 Speaker 1: it came up. I guess I laughed. I don't know 2126 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,080 Speaker 1: what you laughed about. We probably laughed about the same thing. 2127 01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:54,960 Speaker 1: And this is it. NFL True false Number one. Bill 2128 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:59,720 Speaker 1: Belichick is masterminding the opt out situation with the Patriots. True. 2129 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 1: I laughed out loud when I saw this. It. Have 2130 01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,519 Speaker 1: we have we come to this, Steve? Honestly, have we 2131 01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:13,120 Speaker 1: come to this where the Patriots suffer some kind of 2132 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:18,479 Speaker 1: major negative opt out situation? And people have turned it 2133 01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:27,920 Speaker 1: around to insinuate that Belichick is convincing players, which by 2134 01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:32,840 Speaker 1: the way, include three starters to opt out so he 2135 01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:36,560 Speaker 1: can save more cap room and sign other players. Are 2136 01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:40,200 Speaker 1: you serious? I mean, You've got a starting right tackle 2137 01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,280 Speaker 1: for the better part of the last four seasons who's 2138 01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,600 Speaker 1: opted out and has a legitimate high risk being a 2139 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:51,320 Speaker 1: cancer survivor. You've got a linebacker who's the only leftover 2140 01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:55,200 Speaker 1: starter from last year's team because you lost the other 2141 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,720 Speaker 1: three to free agency, and he opts out. And you've 2142 01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:02,280 Speaker 1: got a safety who's you know, been a starter for 2143 01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,600 Speaker 1: the better part of the last eight seasons for you, 2144 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:10,360 Speaker 1: and he's opting out. And someone is claiming that Belichick 2145 01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 1: it's all part of a master plan by Belichick to 2146 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,720 Speaker 1: circumvent the cap space that he doesn't have right now 2147 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:23,520 Speaker 1: to sign other people. I mean, really, come on, where 2148 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:27,120 Speaker 1: are we going with this, this whole, this whole mystique 2149 01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:30,200 Speaker 1: of Belichick. Look, I got as much respect for Belichick 2150 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:34,520 Speaker 1: as the next guy. Really. I mean, I'm not gonna 2151 01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,560 Speaker 1: argue probably the greatest head coach this league has seen 2152 01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:43,760 Speaker 1: since Shula in terms of success rank. Okay, but holy cats, man, 2153 01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,919 Speaker 1: where we have jumped the shark. Here, we've jumped two sharks. 2154 01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean, masterminded the opt out it just happened yesterday 2155 01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,720 Speaker 1: and he's the mastermind of it already. It's unbelievable how 2156 01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:59,480 Speaker 1: far people go with this and Belichick. It makes me 2157 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:03,680 Speaker 1: want to puke. You ask the question, is this is 2158 01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,800 Speaker 1: what we've come to? And the answer obviously is yes, Yes, 2159 01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:11,360 Speaker 1: it is. That's what that is. It is. Of course 2160 01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:15,520 Speaker 1: it's false, it's it's crazy talk, But that is how 2161 01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:20,840 Speaker 1: that is, how far inside everybody's head Bill Belichick has 2162 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,800 Speaker 1: worked his way and plus the mystique and the and 2163 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 1: the and the belief that they will do anything and 2164 01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,040 Speaker 1: cheat and do you know out with the rules, do 2165 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,640 Speaker 1: everything outside the rules and inside the rules to win 2166 01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,280 Speaker 1: and to put themselves in an advantage going forward. Everybody 2167 01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,240 Speaker 1: believes that, and I think this is just one more 2168 01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:42,880 Speaker 1: manifestation of Bill Belichick just rattling the cage of every 2169 01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:46,200 Speaker 1: football mind out there. So it is false. There's absolutely 2170 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:51,680 Speaker 1: no way. Look, I know, I know, I know Belichick 2171 01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 1: over the years has jettisoned high level players towards the 2172 01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:01,120 Speaker 1: latter part of their careers. You know, ty law lawyer malloy. 2173 01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, run down the list, you can do it 2174 01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:08,000 Speaker 1: very easily, but there is no way that you can 2175 01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,080 Speaker 1: convince me that in a year where he does not 2176 01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,120 Speaker 1: have Tom Brady anymore, where he's lost three of his 2177 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:19,160 Speaker 1: four starting linebackers, whereas offensive line is basically a revamp 2178 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:27,760 Speaker 1: that he willingly convinced as part of a scheme, told 2179 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:29,680 Speaker 1: these guys to opt out. I mean, there is just 2180 01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:32,680 Speaker 1: no way, no way. You can say what you want 2181 01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:34,640 Speaker 1: about the culture of the New England Patriots and all 2182 01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:37,320 Speaker 1: of that, but those guys over there aren't like Stepford wives. 2183 01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they're strong men who have families and careers 2184 01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:43,640 Speaker 1: of their own they're thinking about, and they've seen enough 2185 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,720 Speaker 1: of the business side with the New England Patriots to 2186 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,000 Speaker 1: know that they've got to look out for themselves first. 2187 01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,120 Speaker 1: If they're opting out, it's because it's good for them 2188 01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,560 Speaker 1: and their families, or it's a real concern for them. 2189 01:57:53,600 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that outside of your own personal references. 2190 01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:01,880 Speaker 1: Your coach is not going to be able to make 2191 01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,280 Speaker 1: that decision for you, and he wouldn't even try, in 2192 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,160 Speaker 1: my opinion, So both of us say that's false and 2193 01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,440 Speaker 1: shake our heads at people who would just yeah, who 2194 01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:19,919 Speaker 1: would think otherwise? NFL true false Number two. Joey Bosa 2195 01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,400 Speaker 1: is the best bet for NFL Defensive Player of the 2196 01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:26,160 Speaker 1: Year in twenty twenty, after he just signed one hundred 2197 01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:30,560 Speaker 1: and thirty five million dollar extension for five years. Joey 2198 01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:32,960 Speaker 1: Bosa is the best bet for defensive Player of the Year. 2199 01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,680 Speaker 1: I am going to say falls. And here's why I 2200 01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:40,400 Speaker 1: am going to say that. I don't know that the 2201 01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:43,840 Speaker 1: Chargers are going to be ahead on the scoreboard all 2202 01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:48,840 Speaker 1: that much this season with their current quarterback situation, not 2203 01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,680 Speaker 1: to mention the fact that their best running back is 2204 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,520 Speaker 1: no longer on the roster either, in the form of 2205 01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:58,440 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon. So you roll all that together, you remind 2206 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:00,720 Speaker 1: yourself they play in the AFC West and have to 2207 01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:06,320 Speaker 1: play the Chiefs twice, and I get very quickly to 2208 01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,520 Speaker 1: an area where I say, Joey Bosa is not going 2209 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,160 Speaker 1: to be in a lot of advantageous situations where he 2210 01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,040 Speaker 1: can scoop up the extra sacks he needs to be 2211 01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:17,040 Speaker 1: in the conversation for defensive player of the Year. Now, 2212 01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:19,560 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I think Joey Bosa is a 2213 01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:23,600 Speaker 1: fantastic talent, some of the best hand technique you'll find 2214 01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,680 Speaker 1: in the league from a pass rushing perspective. His dad 2215 01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:32,360 Speaker 1: taught him and his brother Nick really well, but defensive 2216 01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:34,680 Speaker 1: player of the Year, I just really think that's a 2217 01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:37,680 Speaker 1: stretch based on what I think is going to happen 2218 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,000 Speaker 1: with that team this year. If he was in a 2219 01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,600 Speaker 1: better if he was playing on his brother's team, I 2220 01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 1: would say one, yes, Defensive Player of the Year Kennedy, 2221 01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,280 Speaker 1: because that defensive line and that defense as a whole 2222 01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,440 Speaker 1: is loaded in San Francisco, and they play in a 2223 01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:56,160 Speaker 1: better division than Joey plays it. But because of what's 2224 01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:57,840 Speaker 1: around him, I think he would have a much better 2225 01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,880 Speaker 1: His brother's got a better chance of being in a 2226 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,120 Speaker 1: fell Defensive Player of the Year than he does just 2227 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:03,840 Speaker 1: by virtue of the fact that who he has to 2228 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,640 Speaker 1: play with. I know Bosa has got a great guy 2229 02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:08,880 Speaker 1: on the other side in Melvin Ingram, but I just 2230 02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:10,880 Speaker 1: don't think they have the offense to put them ahead 2231 02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 1: on the scoreboard and put the opponent in obvious past 2232 02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,040 Speaker 1: situations to let Bosa scoop up extra sex to be 2233 02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:18,240 Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year. Plus, when you're talking about 2234 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:20,160 Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year, you're talking about not just 2235 02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,200 Speaker 1: the teams in the schedule you're playing against in your 2236 02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:24,480 Speaker 1: own personal situation. You're also talking about other guys like 2237 02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:30,839 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald, Chandler Jones, Stefan Gilmore, 2238 02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan, and Tradavious White for that matter. That's who 2239 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:39,200 Speaker 1: you're in competition with for Defensive Player of the Year. 2240 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:41,120 Speaker 1: And you're talking about guys who have done it and 2241 02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,440 Speaker 1: done it consistently. And here's my and this is not 2242 02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:48,000 Speaker 1: for nothing, but I find that a guy who just 2243 02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:51,520 Speaker 1: signed his autograph and got a check for seventy eight 2244 02:00:51,560 --> 02:00:54,880 Speaker 1: million dollars really have a hard time seeing the fire 2245 02:00:54,960 --> 02:01:00,320 Speaker 1: lit under him. I got my money right when you 2246 02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:02,960 Speaker 1: have to for seventy eight million dollars, you already get. 2247 02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:04,400 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You give them the check for 2248 02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:06,680 Speaker 1: seventy eight million dollars. Now we're asking you, even though 2249 02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:08,440 Speaker 1: you've got the money, would you please jump into this 2250 02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:12,000 Speaker 1: tree grinder for us? You know, I just pass on that. Thanks. 2251 02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know we're down fourteen here with ten 2252 02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:18,320 Speaker 1: minutes left, but I really need you to get after 2253 02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:21,520 Speaker 1: their quarterback. Yeah, and he'll do that in those situations. 2254 02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Those are reason. But here's the here's what it gets tough. 2255 02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Is listen, it's it's first and ten and it's in 2256 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:31,560 Speaker 1: the early in the third quarter and the other team's 2257 02:01:31,680 --> 02:01:35,600 Speaker 1: up by fourteen and they're gonna do nothing but hand 2258 02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:37,520 Speaker 1: it off. We need you to stop the run all 2259 02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:39,520 Speaker 1: game the rest of the day. We need to shut 2260 02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:41,720 Speaker 1: them out, and you're gonna have to bear up to 2261 02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:44,080 Speaker 1: do it. That's that's when it gets difficult for him. 2262 02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,800 Speaker 1: If you say, listen, we're ahead by fourteen and they're 2263 02:01:46,840 --> 02:01:50,160 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball every down, they'd pay you. Yeah, 2264 02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,720 Speaker 1: that's easy to send rush the passer, right. So, um, 2265 02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:56,400 Speaker 1: that's why I don't think Joey Bosa is the best 2266 02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,680 Speaker 1: bet for Defensive Player of the Year. So I'm gonna 2267 02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:00,320 Speaker 1: say false to that as well. So I got two 2268 02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:02,160 Speaker 1: falses in a row and you're saying kind of false 2269 02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:08,720 Speaker 1: as well. Last one real quick, Marcus Mariota could be 2270 02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:13,400 Speaker 1: the next rich Gannon for John Cruden. True or false, 2271 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:19,400 Speaker 1: oh Man behind Derek Carr. I am old enough to 2272 02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:24,760 Speaker 1: remember rich Gannon's career, and he really was a matchmate 2273 02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:28,760 Speaker 1: in heaven for what Gruden does on offense, you know, horizontal, 2274 02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:34,000 Speaker 1: short area offense, short passing game that relies on precision, 2275 02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,960 Speaker 1: and I think Mariota does better in that kind of 2276 02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:43,600 Speaker 1: a system. I'm just not convinced that he's capable of 2277 02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,240 Speaker 1: playing with the same precision. Precision that rich Gannon played with. 2278 02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we got to remember when Gannon was playing 2279 02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,840 Speaker 1: for the Raiders, he was like up for Offensive Player 2280 02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:57,280 Speaker 1: of the Year. Oh, he was MVP, I mean MVP 2281 02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:02,120 Speaker 1: of the National Football League. Yeah, I don't see Mariota 2282 02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:06,080 Speaker 1: getting there. I mean, great kid, great teammate, I mean, 2283 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:08,680 Speaker 1: could anybody have handled a demotion better than he did 2284 02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:14,440 Speaker 1: last year in Tennessee? Just a fantastic human being. But 2285 02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just don't see him reaching the heights 2286 02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:21,680 Speaker 1: that rich Gannon did in that John Gruden offense. So 2287 02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:25,880 Speaker 1: I am three for three here on falsehoods. I'm I'm 2288 02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:29,000 Speaker 1: with you as well. Rich Gannon was dropped into a 2289 02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:31,720 Speaker 1: special situation. He was a guy who had, for a 2290 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:35,600 Speaker 1: variety of reasons, was a journey Yeah, bounced around the league. 2291 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Now it wasn't because he couldn't play, but there were 2292 02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:39,800 Speaker 1: other guys that were there that the team had invested 2293 02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:42,600 Speaker 1: more in, or because of a bad injury or an 2294 02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:46,680 Speaker 1: untimely injury or whatever, rich didn't get on the field. Now, 2295 02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:49,240 Speaker 1: when he got to the Raiders, he was also rich 2296 02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:54,720 Speaker 1: was also a preparation junkie, which played right into Gruden's wheelhouse. 2297 02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Remember Gruden's this guy that sleeps three hours a night 2298 02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:01,800 Speaker 1: and watches nothing but film, and rich Gannon was cut 2299 02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:07,920 Speaker 1: from that same cloth. Marcus Mariota with much with with 2300 02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:14,240 Speaker 1: no fanfare accepted and in reality it looked like he 2301 02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:19,880 Speaker 1: sought out a backup role. Uh, he doesn't. He is 2302 02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:25,720 Speaker 1: not a strong personality, is not a guy who wants 2303 02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:28,640 Speaker 1: the ball. Gives you the idea that he wants the ball. 2304 02:04:29,280 --> 02:04:31,120 Speaker 1: He wants to get on the field, he wants to 2305 02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:33,240 Speaker 1: be on the team. He's a great teammate, he wants 2306 02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,240 Speaker 1: to be you know, he wants to be a good player, 2307 02:04:35,320 --> 02:04:40,120 Speaker 1: no question. But the zero arrogance and one hundred percent humility. 2308 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,960 Speaker 1: And at quarterback, you want somebody that's got some arrogance, 2309 02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,680 Speaker 1: don't you. It's part of the job description. Yeah, I 2310 02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,600 Speaker 1: think it is. I mean it's in the job description. 2311 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:53,520 Speaker 1: You gotta be you gotta be the guy that the 2312 02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:57,280 Speaker 1: guy that, Yeah, you gotta have swagger. I don't think 2313 02:04:57,400 --> 02:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota wants any part of being rich in it 2314 02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:04,600 Speaker 1: for all that, for whatever that means. So I think 2315 02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:07,240 Speaker 1: we're both for three for three. We're all false today 2316 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,760 Speaker 1: thanks to Yancey's Fancy for bringing this NFL true false 2317 02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:11,920 Speaker 1: steep tasker Chris Brown coming back with what we learned 2318 02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:14,200 Speaker 1: right after the Break one Bills Live presented by Kalida 2319 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Hell Fund Buffalo Bills Radio, brought to you by Skyworks, 2320 02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:27,240 Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. 2321 02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,920 Speaker 1: Star Low to de lay, defensive tackle for the Buffalo Bills, 2322 02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:33,160 Speaker 1: opted out of the twenty twenty season. W ro OC 2323 02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:36,680 Speaker 1: Sports director in Rochester, Thad Brown joined us and said 2324 02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:39,760 Speaker 1: this about star Low to Lalae opting out. You know, 2325 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:43,080 Speaker 1: I think fans generally don't give Star enough credit for 2326 02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,640 Speaker 1: what he does. He's a really solid consummate, you know, 2327 02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:49,880 Speaker 1: first and second down run defender from the one tech 2328 02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,560 Speaker 1: that you know, the nose ish tackle position, and he 2329 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:54,360 Speaker 1: will be a loss. He's a guy that you know, 2330 02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,400 Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna have to find some sort of 2331 02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:59,080 Speaker 1: way to replace him. Now. I think Harrison Phillips is 2332 02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:01,040 Speaker 1: the first candidate, you know, and I think you can 2333 02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:03,160 Speaker 1: do a solid job there. But we all know Sean 2334 02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:06,400 Speaker 1: mcgrimant likes to rotateeous guys and you know, run different tackles. 2335 02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:08,160 Speaker 1: On the field, So there's gonna have to be someone 2336 02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:10,280 Speaker 1: else's gonna do it. You know, could it be Vernon Butler. 2337 02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a possibility. But you know, the more 2338 02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:14,440 Speaker 1: I think about it, the more I think that this 2339 02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:17,040 Speaker 1: opens the door very wide for Vincent Taylor to make 2340 02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:19,200 Speaker 1: this team. I mean, I thought he did good enough 2341 02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,760 Speaker 1: last year's subbing for Harrison Phillips when Phips was out, 2342 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's another guy that I 2343 02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:28,600 Speaker 1: trust enough to be that. You know one tech run defender. 2344 02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:34,000 Speaker 1: That was Fad Brown from WROC rot Chester sports director 2345 02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:37,040 Speaker 1: talking about Starlo to La opting out. We also ask you, 2346 02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:40,040 Speaker 1: our listeners, what your expectations are for the Bills heading 2347 02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:43,200 Speaker 1: into training camp with all the uncertainty around COVID. Your 2348 02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:45,800 Speaker 1: votes were thirty six percent of you think they're gonna 2349 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,000 Speaker 1: win a playoff game, twenty seven percent of you think 2350 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the AFC East Division in the National 2351 02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Football League, and twenty five percent of you think they're 2352 02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:57,320 Speaker 1: gonna have multiple playoff wins. Twelve percent say, man, it's 2353 02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna be the Super Bowl, Baby, It's gonna be awesome. Brownie, 2354 02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Good Show Today. What you think of the Twitter poll 2355 02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:07,200 Speaker 1: and all the stuff that's going on relatively balanced there, 2356 02:07:07,840 --> 02:07:11,280 Speaker 1: and you know, at least it's all positive though, right, 2357 02:07:11,440 --> 02:07:14,480 Speaker 1: we need some positivity in this twenty twenty calendar year. 2358 02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:17,040 Speaker 1: And oh, oh my god, yeah, it's been it's been 2359 02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:18,880 Speaker 1: a season. It's going to be a season of high 2360 02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:21,360 Speaker 1: expectations for the Buffalo Bills, but with all the uncertainty, 2361 02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:23,920 Speaker 1: even more so than ever, you don't even know if 2362 02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to play a game. That's the 2363 02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:29,200 Speaker 1: sad part about it, right, Debbie down at the end 2364 02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,240 Speaker 1: of the show, Come on, Steve, we're gonna get there. 2365 02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:33,320 Speaker 1: We'll get to the beginning of the year, all right. 2366 02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:35,560 Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody involved. We're gonna be back tomorrow noon 2367 02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:37,960 Speaker 1: to three. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown back at you with 2368 02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:40,800 Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health Fund, Buffalo Bills 2369 02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Radio