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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you do you just you can

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Speaker 2: Period. Yeah, it's Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: He's a great man. His name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I love the backhanded INTROSBC. Nice to be here. How

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Speaker 3: Very good, Luke, Because I'm rocking AG one in my

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have the horona virus, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: This weekend is loaded in a in a level way,

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Speaker 3: I'm about, Luke Thomas, in terms of what this fight

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Speaker 3: We know what's at stake. We know that this is

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Speaker 2: So here's my key question to kick it off to you, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Because when you watch tape on both they can do

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Speaker 3: But holy shit, they can do it all chasing a

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Speaker 1: Dirt a high single leg. You mean a high crotch

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Speaker 1: But in all likelihood, right, in all likelihood, The most

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Speaker 3: That's why they cancel each other out. That's why you

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Speaker 3: those stretches, I think they're pretty even across the board

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Speaker 3: Luke in most categories. That's why we love this fight

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Speaker 3: so much, so you can a little bit more battle

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Speaker 3: tested at the highest level. Of course, this win streak

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Speaker 3: so has Gamrod. You know, I mean his UFC debut

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Speaker 2: Kute Ladze Luke.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a split decision loss Luke, in

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Speaker 3: which Gamra would later say I know now, I didn't

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Speaker 3: Steve a Mucichi to learn that lesson in his first

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 3: So I set it up that way to say, although

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Speaker 3: no no debating, who do you think has grown more

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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's tough. I think Saryukian has grown more well rounded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's well said, and it illustrates why we love

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's like you can say nothing about

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Speaker 3: Sarayukin's ies won five in a row since I mahach

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Speaker 3: that was you know, it just shows the destruction power

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Speaker 2: Luke, So it's been.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was eye opening.

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Speaker 1: Luke, no doubt about it, no doubt about it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and even though we're giving experienced edge to sarr

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Speaker 3: excuse me, when he was fighting with KSW and Poland

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Speaker 3: he did go five full rounds to defend his title there, Luke,

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Speaker 2: So he's been there, done that in fact.

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Speaker 3: So it's all part in the end of the day, Luke,

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Speaker 3: why we love this matchup. Okay, why do the betting

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Speaker 1: Moore because his one loss in the UFC was to Islam,

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Speaker 1: Now that might be wrong, because to your point, Gamrod

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Speaker 1: department there as well. In addition, although obviously, as we've seen,

435
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Speaker 1: the stats sort of tell you that there's not enough

436
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Speaker 1: control in ground and pound. But I just feel like

437
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 1: with Saryuki and You've you've got someone who's got all

438
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Speaker 1: the athletic ability they need, They've got all the wrestling

439
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: that they need, and that by itself can carry you

440
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 1: pretty far. He's got a tremendous gas tank as well. Again,

441
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: go back and watch the fight with Makachev duo. He

442
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: was scrambling his ass off up until the very last

443
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Speaker 1: minute of that fight, and so you just feel like,

444
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 1: man they can put a little bit more together with

445
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 1: this guy, he might be able to do a amazing things.

446
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 1: Gamrock in many ways, I think is something of a

447
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: more finished product against still developing, and want to be

448
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: clear about that. But and again you're asking what the

449
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 1: odds maker see. What I think that they see is

450
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Speaker 1: he doesn't quite have the same ability to extend. Not

451
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Speaker 1: that he can't go much further than he is, but

452
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Speaker 1: that Saryukian's ability to extend how far he can go

453
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Speaker 1: seems a little bit higher, right, seems to have just

454
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Speaker 1: a little bit more of the natural gifts that hard

455
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Speaker 1: work and the right kinds of people around him can

456
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Speaker 1: develop and to turn into something. Now to people who

457
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 1: might be favoring Gamrock, these are all just guesses. We

458
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Speaker 1: don't really know, And there are things to be said

459
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Speaker 1: about Saryukiin not being as well rounded as he needs

460
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Speaker 1: to be. And again sometimes yeah, I think that well

461
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: roundedness would be the issue there more than anything else.

462
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Speaker 1: So that's what they see. They just see a guy

463
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,479
Speaker 1: who's got, like, you know, a thorough red horse man.

464
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: If you could just get the right trainer, just get

465
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: the right nutrition, the right kind of situation, you can

466
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Speaker 1: do something with that, that's what I think they're banking on.

467
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Speaker 1: But he has to do something against Gama to really

468
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Speaker 1: prove that that's a fair assessment.

469
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Speaker 3: You know, Luke, people don't look at me as a

470
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: hardcore UFC fan, but I'm getting that hardcore itch, you

471
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: know what I mean that Like, let me turn the

472
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 3: volume down, pull the shades down. Everybody leave me alone.

473
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 3: I gotta watch this main event. I gotta you know,

474
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: I gotta inhale it.

475
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Luke, I gotta freebase it.

476
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: So freebase it. Bro.

477
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 2: Look, here's I've seen the future, So get ready to

478
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: join me in this process.

479
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 3: Luke, here's what the future looks like. The wrestling does

480
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: cancel each other out, but the stakes on this fight

481
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: like cannot be overlooked.

482
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 2: Like they're both you know.

483
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: I mean obviously Sarykin's younger, twenty five years old, or

484
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: is even twenty four. I mean, he's so young it's ridiculous,

485
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: whereas Gamrot's thirty one, ready to go now. But sar

486
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 3: Yukin's talent has shown he's ready to go now and

487
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: go to that next level. So, Luke, these are going

488
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: to be two hammers that are gonna put on five

489
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: I think, growingly spectacular rounds of striking, of kickboxing. Because

490
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Speaker 3: the deal here is, Luke, they're both not reckless, they're responsible,

491
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: but they're hammers. This could end up looking a lot

492
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: like Dustin Poier and Dan Hooker at the end of

493
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: the day.

494
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Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily answer.

495
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 3: Who wins, per se. But if I'm gonna lean one way,

496
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: it's what it's. I've seen a little bit more from

497
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: Sarayuki and that I've loved, and so of the odds makers.

498
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: But damn, this is a great fight.

499
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: Do you echo, at least forget about who wins, but

500
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: echo my say sentiment here that this could be a

501
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Speaker 3: you know, this could be the fight of the night,

502
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: five rounds of pure joy here for us as fans.

503
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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, I think so. I think so. There are

504
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: permutations where this fight could be a little boring. There

505
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: are there are. Again, fights can go in a lot

506
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: of different directions.

507
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Speaker 3: Heat up over time, Luke, It's gonna not organically heat up,

508
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 3: you know, I think so.

509
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think listen, both guys can do so

510
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: much from a technical standpoint, especially in the wrestling department. Again,

511
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna fight that battle is gonna be fought a

512
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Speaker 1: little bit. The idea that this turns into like Usman

513
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: versus Colby right away, or I should say Oosman Colby

514
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: won right where they just go like fuck it, We're

515
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: not gonna wrestle, We're just gonna strike again. Could be

516
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: that way. I tend to think at least wrestling will

517
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: play some part in the larger picture of things. But yeah, dude,

518
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very this This fight is a big fight.

519
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: It's not to say that the loser of this fight

520
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: can't still climb the ranks or won't still climb the ranks.

521
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: In fact, I think that they will. But it does

522
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: tell us that the person who wins here is gonna

523
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Speaker 1: be fast tracked. I think. I mean, this is gonna

524
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Speaker 1: be one of those fights where are like, okay, who

525
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Speaker 1: is the next generation of one to fifty five vers

526
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Speaker 1: in the UFC who you can look at and say,

527
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Speaker 1: who's coming up the pike to make make a title run.

528
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: Not right away, but like you know, forecasting a year

529
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Speaker 1: or two down the road. It's gonna be the winner

530
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 1: in one of these this fight, no doubt about. It's

531
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna be the winner of this fight. That's how important

532
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: this is. But they got to get out there and

533
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: beat a very very tough peer in order to get there.

534
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Speaker 2: Look, you know how like when people say clean and

535
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 2: jerk like these lifting.

536
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: Terms like OHBC, he's gonna make a obvious low hanging

537
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: fruit reference there, you know, to like dix and you know,

538
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: you know, right whatever, Luke. But when I hear DCSA

539
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: run the pipe, dude, how is this a regular term?

540
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: Luke? I mean, I'm sorry, I go, I fall right

541
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: back into the quicksand of ridiculousness when I hear that term,

542
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: all right, I mean, because not everyone is a forty

543
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: three year old man with a thirteen year old brain.

544
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Speaker 1: Like, I'm not sure how to answer that question, Luke.

545
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 3: To aid in my idea that it is an organic

546
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: brew that breaks out into a not slugfest, but a

547
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: very technical war in some ways. Gamra's also a Southpaw, Luke,

548
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 3: So they're gonna be there's gonna be some feeling out

549
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: in that.

550
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I honestly that might actually enhance the amount

551
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: of wrestling you see, especially early on. Again, we don't

552
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: know how the wrestling like one like gam Rack might

553
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: be able to take. So you can down and like

554
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: that's enough. Or conversely, so you can might be able

555
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: to take him down and that's enough. Like that could

556
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: change it. But what I mean is if both guys

557
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Speaker 1: have that lead leg on the same side or at

558
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: least you know, yeah, it will be the same side

559
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: because it'd be an open stance. I think that will

560
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: only increase the chances that you see a at least early,

561
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum early a real wrestling contest, like

562
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Speaker 1: how is this gonna go? Who's gonna get the upper

563
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: hand here? You know, obviously they were neither stands, so that

564
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: you would probably get that too in some level. But

565
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like that lead legs sticking out, man,

566
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's going to absolutely entice the other one

567
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: to to go after it.

568
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard a little nineties come out.

569
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Speaker 3: He I almost thought you were gonna bear into like

570
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: how is it gonna be?

571
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: But you didn't.

572
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: But look the thing is when DC pet packages phrases

573
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Speaker 3: together and he's like, all right, now going for the

574
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: high crotch, let's let's run the pipe, I mean you

575
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: have to admit you put those two together, little dicey,

576
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: little dicey, Okay.

577
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: Hy crotch and then run the pipe.

578
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

579
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know you're saying I'm immature. It's

580
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: kind of It's kind of speaks for itself in that regard.

581
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Speaker 2: All right, uh luke, are you going either way? Are

582
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: you making a pick here? I mean, you know we

583
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 2: all we all we're all gonna win here, But are

584
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: you making a pick?

585
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Speaker 1: Certainly, no one is hiring me to be a talent

586
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: evaluator for any of these promotions. But the two guys

587
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: I've been the highest on in the last year or so,

588
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean some of the obvious ones, like everyone's been

589
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: high on SHAMAIAV or something like that, right, But I

590
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: mean outside of that, it'd be Rokmanov, who I know

591
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about here in a little bit, and

592
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: it would be Sar Yukiin Those are two guys who

593
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: we talk about it all the time. Obviously, Teyo Fimo

594
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Lopez shited the bed in his last fight, so that's

595
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: kind of out. But in his previous fights, I had

596
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: said to b C, like, go Lee, this guy just

597
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: when he's when he's dealing, his talent jumps off the screen.

598
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: Rockmanov's talent jumps off the screen, and Sar Yukiin's does

599
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: as well in different ways. To be very clear, Rockmanov

600
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: is much more put together as a complete total fighter

601
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: than Saryukiin is. But Sarr Yukin, as you're asking, like,

602
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: why are the odds makers leaning towards him, he just

603
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: has thoroughbred horse written all over him. I mean, he

604
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: really really does, not to say that Gamrock doesn't. And again,

605
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: I fully respect Gamrox's capabilities here. If he won, I

606
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised in the least. But Sarr yuki In

607
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: appears to be quite special to me. And with his

608
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: relative youth and his relative ability already and how much

609
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: time he has to get better and what he's already showing,

610
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: I think that guy has at a bare minimum title

611
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: fights written all over his future. We shall see, we

612
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: shall see, But I'm gonna ride with.

613
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: Him and a loaded weekend.

614
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: Look, we just gave that main event the real breakdown

615
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: it deserved, and it's gonna be a great one. But

616
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: will we be exiting Saturday's fight card talking about the

617
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: winner of the main event or how great the Colemane

618
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: event guy may end up looking. It's not gonna be

619
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: easy for shot cut Rock Montoff here at Welterwait from Kazakhstan. Yes,

620
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: he looks to be very much in the same category

621
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: as the guys in the main event as potentially having

622
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 3: next maybe even more Luke. I mean, this guy can

623
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: give you some excitement, some ubl for days. But he's

624
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: got Neil Magni coming in here, and the Neil Magnis

625
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: we talked about on Wednesday storylines that is like, you know,

626
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: on a nice run, like has really put it together.

627
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: He never not wants to fight the people that no

628
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: one else wants to. So he's gonna get a big

629
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: opportunity here a plus three twenty underdog Neil Magni minus

630
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: three ninety rock man off the Luke. You've been the

631
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: day one guy. The Red Coats are coming. Shofcut is

632
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: the next hammer. We need to get phoned up about

633
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: how tough of a challenge is Magni to Shofcut becoming

634
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: the lead story after Saturday's card.

635
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: I this is to me, you know, if you want

636
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: to see if listen if Chamai've had to fight Gilbert

637
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: Burns right in the way that he did. Like, Okay,

638
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns is you know, as proven and talented and

639
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: accomplished as any welterway can get short of winning the title.

640
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he is an extraordinary fighter, and so Tamiah

641
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: beating him is a big deal, and especially because Tramaia

642
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: have you know, kind of thought as we always talk about,

643
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: very undisciplined and still kind of won. But short of that,

644
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: like when you're thinking, who would tell us a lot

645
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: about where rock Monov's gonna go? Boy, Neil Magni is

646
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: just a fantastic candidate. Number one, battle tested, I mean,

647
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: win or lose. This fucker has been in there with

648
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: very good fighters and even some cases where he's lost

649
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: and then lost badly at times he has shown promise

650
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: even in those bouts, but the other ones he has

651
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: won spectacularly and he's been counted out a lot. And

652
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: the reason why Magni is respected is not just because

653
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: he's beaten good guys A lot of times. He's beaten

654
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: people that no one expected him to beat and he

655
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: rose to the occasion. So he has been in there

656
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: with very tough guys. He as I mentioned, he has

657
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: found his moments when he needed to. He has phenomenal cardio.

658
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever else you want to say about Neil Magni.

659
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: The concept of him being tired, especially in a three

660
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 1: round contest, is inconceivable, right, So there's that, and then

661
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: on top of it, he's got great dimensions for the

662
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: game and a great team behind him, and he's got

663
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: good training. He's very well rounded. Like that dude can

664
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: do a lot. Now he's got limits as well. No

665
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: fighter is perfect, But if you're just asking, you know,

666
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: what is shof caught Rock Monol going to prove by

667
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: beating someone like that dude? That is a very important

668
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: measuring stick. And I talked about this yesterday on my

669
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: live chat, which was one we're going to see if

670
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: some of the stuff he's already shown us can scale

671
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: up to the higher end of the division. But more so,

672
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: there's still a lot as much as we know about

673
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: Rock Monol, there's still actually a lot we don't know,

674
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: Like how good is he beating someone with that kind

675
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: of cardio and that kind of experience and a great

676
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: jab and who understands what his assignment is in wrestling positions?

677
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: Who understands what his assignment is in various standing situations,

678
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Like he understands what needs to happen if you can

679
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: beat a guy like that fight. But in the end,

680
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Shaffcott Rockmanov to me is he might be the future

681
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: of this division. He is exceedingly talented and this is

682
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: a tough fight, make no mistake, but he might be

683
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: up for it.

684
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: God.

685
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: The short term reloading that's already going on at welterway

686
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: between him and chimayav Is is enough, you know as

687
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: it is, to get you fired the hell up. But

688
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: there's there could be some very good fights old versus

689
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: new in the future across the board. Luke, if there's

690
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: any area in Rockmanov that gives you, if you pause,

691
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: that you are drinking the juice because at a certain

692
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: level he has looked insane, but not everybody you know

693
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: carries that up at that same level when they face

694
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: equal or better competition. Is there a scenario here where

695
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: like Chavcot can win in a boring fashion where Magne's

696
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: good enough to not become a highlight reel, but Shavcot's

697
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: too safe. Do you have any fears that this guy

698
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: doesn't have sort of the gene that bone you need

699
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: to finish and know when the time is right to finish,

700
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: and know why it's important and this platform to get

701
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: that finish if it's there, Are you worried about anything from.

702
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: Shavcot Uh No, not in that sense. Like, dude, he's

703
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: got I don't know if are all of his UFC

704
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: wins finishes. I have to go back and look. I

705
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: don't know off the top of my head, but most

706
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: of them are. He demolished Michelle Prezeris, he demolished the

707
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: gentleman from South Africa. He gave him the business as well. Dude, Like,

708
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: he is a fucking destroyer. Now, if you're asking me

709
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: what parts do give me concern, I will tell you

710
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. One. There are times in the fights,

711
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: and understand something I talked to his manager, and what

712
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: they tell me was that the first contract he was on,

713
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't making a lot of money, so they just

714
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to get through that contract and then

715
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: go to the next one and then from there, you know,

716
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: once the pay was a little bit higher, then start

717
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 1: taking on some of the tougher fights, which I think

718
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: makes sense. Also, get your feet wet. Oh, and he

719
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: demolished Cowboy Olivera as well.

720
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, he's dude, Yeah, he's a real fight.

721
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: He's undefeated. I think again, I think all of his

722
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: finishes are by way. All of his wins are by

723
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: way of finishing the UFC. But in any case, you

724
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: can deet it wrong me because I'm not entirely sure

725
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: about that. I don't have his record in front of me.

726
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: But the one I want to make is there have

727
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: been times a little bit where he allows the fighter

728
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: who he's going up against to not dictate the terms,

729
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: but he kind of lays back a little bit. Now

730
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: sometimes he does that because he's setting traps, especially along

731
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: the fence line. I want everyone to pay attention to this.

732
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: If you see someone on press Rockmanov, including Neil Magne,

733
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: if you see Magni press Rockmanov up against the fence,

734
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: is a decent chance that Magne's gonna go for a ride,

735
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: because that's one of his major major setups. All he

736
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: needs is in overhook and you're done. You're gonna go.

737
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna have problems. So there is a little bit

738
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: of a method to his madness. But I wonder against

739
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Magni, who can jab and set a pace,

740
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: if he might not find himself in certain situations giving

741
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: away moments getting his head popped back by the way

742
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: he can slip in counter two, right, because rock Mono

743
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: is really good. But there are times when he'll let

744
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: other guys do what they want a little bit. I

745
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: think that could get against lesser opposition. You can get

746
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: away with that, right, because it's not a big deal

747
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: against Neil Magne. I don't know if I would want

748
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: to play that kind of a game. So let's see

749
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to force the fight. That's not what

750
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, But I do want to see, in

751
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: the moments where it's neutral ish, how he sets up

752
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: his offense and what Magni either forces him to do

753
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: or what he allows Magni to do, and to what

754
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: extent that defines moments of control, punches that might land,

755
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of a thing where he then

756
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: has to fight out of a deficit in certain circumstances.

757
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that that will happen, but that's kind

758
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: of the thing on my mind. Or he not lazy,

759
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: but almost has not the same urgency that he needs.

760
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: The urgency is what I'm going to be paying attention

761
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: to here.

762
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and pardon me for not mentioning Sean Brady's name.

763
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: The Unbeaten Fighter and Room Service Diaries veteran in the

764
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 3: same conversation, So Luke transitioning to those rankings where Brady

765
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: is number nine, by the way, Neil Magni number ten,

766
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: and rock Monov number fifteen.

767
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: Should the upper bound limits come true here? Should shovcott

768
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: rock Monoff just you know, look sensational and finish? Neil Magni.

769
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: We know that's a huge statement. How huge? What type

770
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: of fight could be next for him? Like? What, like

771
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 2: is he if he does the best.

772
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: Performance possible in this setting? Is he now fighting the

773
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: Gilbert Burns level guys next?

774
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: Like, is it gonna happen that quickly?

775
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? He beats well first of all. Just to clarify,

776
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: all of his UFC wins are by finish, which is

777
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: important to note because all of his fights are by

778
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: way of finish. He is fifteen and oh and he

779
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: finished off fifteen of these opponents. I mean, that's who

780
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. You're concerned, like does he have

781
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: that killer instinct? Yeah? Yeah, times a thousand, he's got it.

782
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing I'd say.

783
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: Well, more will he chase it? Luke?

784
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: I met more will he chase it? Because there's guys

785
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: you give it to them, they'll make it happen.

786
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: Will he chase that if it's a boring fight? You know?

787
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: And then the other part too is like, you know,

788
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Neil Magnie is not like some kind of scrub, Like

789
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: you're not just going to beat the shit out of

790
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: him and walk off. I mean, maybe maybe Rockmanov does,

791
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: which would be incredible, but like you know, there's a

792
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: real there's a real clear case here where this could

793
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: very well go to a decision even if Rockmanov is

794
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: the winner. You know, Magne is a very Again, I

795
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: have a great deal of respect for what this fight

796
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: represents and for what Neil Magnee has done in his career.

797
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: But I forgot your original question. I'm sorry I went

798
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: on a tangent there, but.

799
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the tangent.

800
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, I'm yes, I'm just trying to point

801
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: out I have Oh he ask you who the next

802
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: opponent would be, Yeah, Gilbert Burns, maybe not something just

803
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: south of that five six to eight or six to nine.

804
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: Wall winner of balla Luke A two.

805
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, well ballall already won that.

806
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that already happened. All right, Luke. I'm

807
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, part of my brain is a few weeks

808
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: behind there.

809
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: Why don't you keep drinking wine at night? Fu face?

810
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the same.

811
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: Obviously, Neil Magnet at number ten would make a serious

812
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: leap into probably the same level of a matchmaking with

813
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: a big win.

814
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

815
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: Luke, does shove cat rockmanoff get it done the the

816
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: product of usbek.

817
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Of Kazakh nationality? Uh?

818
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: And does he do it spectacularly? What's what the is

819
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: this gonna look like, Luke? Because it could be the

820
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: toughest test to date or it could just be another, uh,

821
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: you know, another wall to kick through on the way.

822
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: I think that. I think rock Mono's gonna have to

823
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: earn it. I don't anyway think he's just gonna blow

824
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: the doors off of a guy like Magne. In part

825
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: to something you had identified, he doesn't rush the fight now.

826
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Once he hurts a guy, his finishing ability is extraordinary,

827
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: hence the record. But yeah, I think Rockmanhov's gonna win.

828
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: And I think in the end, however it looks, which

829
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: by the way, includes going to a decision, I want

830
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: to be clear about that. I think he's going to

831
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: look spectacular throughout the process. One thing to pay attention

832
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: to in addition for Rockmanoff getting backed up against the fence,

833
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: and all he has to do is have that wizzard

834
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: and then all these guys are in trouble. The other

835
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: one is that he does a little something that's kind

836
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: of interesting. He'll rock a guy on the feet. He's

837
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: got the ability to slip in counter two by the way,

838
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: So like you, that jab is going to be good

839
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: for Magne, but he has to be careful with it

840
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: because if Rockmanov times it, he's gonna eat a huge punch.

841
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: One thing that Rockmanov is incredible at I call it

842
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: standing ground and pound, which doesn't really make sense. I

843
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: understand because GMP, that's what ground means. But what I

844
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: mean is in a lot of his fights, Carlton Harris

845
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: was one where he did this. That was the guy

846
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: from South Africa. I previously forgot his name, but I apologize.

847
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: He'll hit a guy, then they fall, and he doesn't

848
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: fully follow them to the ground. He occupies the position

849
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: sometimes where he'll put their legs back where they can't

850
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: just fully extend, and he'll rain punches over them, bending

851
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: over at the waist. And you might say, well, what

852
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: is unique about that he does? It in a very coordinated,

853
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: specific way where he doesn't allow someone to grab a

854
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: collar tie and overhook, risk control, feed on the hips,

855
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: anything that would allow some method of body control over him.

856
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: And he punches. And that's really important because what happens

857
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: if you're doing ground to pound, what do they tell

858
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: the person underneath to do? Collar tie, overhook, secret behind

859
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: the head, double underhooks, bring them to you so they

860
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: don't have the separation to go after you. Rochmanov has

861
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: this ability to rock a guy on the feet, and

862
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: only then he doesn't take someone down and then try this.

863
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: He only tries it when he hurts them first on

864
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: the feet, then he lets them fall a little bit

865
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: and he stands over them. And dude, he puts on

866
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: an absolute clinic doing this. Doesn't need a lot of

867
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: time to land three or four huge shots that in

868
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: many cases can either end to fight or defy around.

869
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: He is vicious with it. Pay attention to something like that,

870
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: if Neil Magni is not careful with his jab, he

871
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: is going to eat a huge shot. Pay attention to

872
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: the bending over at the waste of Rockmanov. It seems simple,

873
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: but it's actually very very clever. That he doesn't allow

874
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: that control. By going to the ground with them, it

875
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: allows him to land monster punches.

876
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: Damn, I love this fight. Seriously, We're gonna find out.

877
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: We could really stamp two guys sharing the headlines, you know,

878
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: the winner of the main event and this one.

879
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: If, especially if Rockmanoff does big things in this.

880
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: One, you could you could have instantly in two divisions,

881
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 3: two major players ready to tussle.

882
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: So fired up. I think it's gonna be rock Monoff.

883
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: I don't.

884
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't know though, I don't know how hard this

885
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: test is gonna be. That's why I want to find out.

886
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: Luke that up and down the card, it's hard not

887
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: to mention the Umar Nirmaga Madoff return at fourteen and

888
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: o cousin of Habib taking on Nate Manesse. Luke Umar

889
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: put it on our dude, Brian boomkellaher last fight like

890
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: quickly overwhelming submission. We were a little hesitant at first

891
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: to like put him in the Habib Islamahachev level of

892
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: you know, hype or or or what's coming next. And

893
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 3: there's a lot in that family and in the surrounding

894
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: team there under rip coach Abdulman app how good is

895
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: Umar nrmaga Metov though, because that last fight seemed to

896
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: take the hype like to a real good level it's

897
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: never been before.

898
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: Uh, he's good. They've got him at a minus one

899
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: thousand favorite. I gotta say, I like in MMA, anytime

900
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: an oddsmaker goes over a thousand, my eyes are always

901
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: like word like, not because I don't think he's better

902
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: than Nate Manest or that he might not win. I

903
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: think Neimergamydov will win. It's not hardly some kind of

904
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: brave pick. But I don't know. Man. Nate Minest can

905
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: grapple a little bit like, not like Nimergamdov, but I

906
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I always get real like unless it's like

907
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. For example, Julia Budd is out of

908
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: her fight in July with Kylee Harrison, and so Kaitlyn

909
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: Young is going to fill in. Now. Kaitlyn Young was

910
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: like for a time the in victim matchmaker. She has

911
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: fought for a long time, but she's like twelve and

912
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: twelve in her career, yo like, and she's not even

913
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: a natural one fifty five er. I mean, it stands

914
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: to reason that Kayla Harrison is gonna rip her apart. Okay, fine,

915
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: you can make her a huge favorite. But in cases

916
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: like this, where two guys are basically, like you know,

917
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: in their greatest moment or close to their greatest moment

918
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: of their fighting career, certainly in a very developed position,

919
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I always get a little bit of the hebgb's when

920
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: they give someone a minus one thousand like this, don't

921
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: you my crazy? No?

922
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: I agree, I was surprised it was that much. I

923
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: would have thought it was a minus five hundred. That's

924
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 3: where I would have thought it was at six.

925
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: Now that sounds about right, yes, and that's still.

926
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: A lot at this level, to be fair, But do

927
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: you think has he not Umar? Has Umar not dazzled

928
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: you that even a young in the way that a

929
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: young Usman Normaga met off under the beltur Banner has

930
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: because like we're all waiting for Usman to get that

931
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: titler shot, you know, I mean Usman versus a J

932
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: McKee could be mind blowing someday. But the whole point is,

933
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: do you not think has Umar not tickled you to

934
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: that level?

935
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: Yet?

936
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Not to that level? But I also hold Usman Nimberkamdov

937
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: in very high regard for folksman, I know he is

938
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: almost certainly going to be the Belator lightweight champion at

939
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: some point, probably sooner rather than later, maybe even this year.

940
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: We'll guess, we'll have to see. I don't know that

941
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: I hold Umar in exactly that kind of regard. To me,

942
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Usmin Nimber Gamydov is just a phenomenal striker. He's a

943
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: phenomenal grappler. Obviously, he's well trained all the whole. I mean,

944
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: he's got a lot going for him in the right direction.

945
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: Umar Nimber Goamdev certainly has many, many, many of those things.

946
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: But to your point, I just haven't quite seen that,

947
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: which is why I'm like minus a thousand again. I

948
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: think he's gonna win, but that is high, so I

949
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see.

950
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: That is high.

951
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 3: Luke, do you think your boy Rodolfo Vieira gets it

952
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: done on Saturday?

953
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: You could? You know, he could use one here?

954
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean, is there time for him to put something

955
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: together in this division of middle against Chris Curtis.

956
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: I see, I don't know. Man Like Hadelfo, Vieira was

957
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: just an outrageously good grappler. He gave Busheesha many of

958
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: his toughest matches. He won nearly every prestigious title that

959
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: you could win, and sometimes multiple times, and he's got

960
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: a great You would think he has a great game

961
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: for MMA because he can do a lot of mobile passing,

962
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: he can do a lot of pressure passing. And I

963
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: guess it turns out that a lot of his judo

964
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: game was kind of gee based, but he was one

965
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: of the guys in jiu jitsu that was hitting a

966
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: lot of judo throws that was somewhat unusual. But like,

967
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's fully translated. But still like

968
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's built like a fucking brick shit house.

969
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Like the dude has got a lot going for him,

970
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: but he just hasn't seemed to be able to turn

971
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: that corner yet. I wonder if he took to MMA

972
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: too late. I wonder if other parts of his game

973
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: just haven't come to him as naturally, if he just

974
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: spent too much time working on jiu jitsu. I guess

975
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see. But Chris Curtis is also

976
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, hit this guy retired before and came back,

977
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: but he looks rejuvenated. He doesn't overly stress the fights.

978
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: It looks to me he has a real calm demeanor.

979
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: He's got good power, good striking, so if he can

980
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: play prevent defense in the grappling game, it seems like

981
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna piece up Vieira. They've got Viera at a

982
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: very very slight underdog plus one ten. I think that

983
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: sounds about right. I don't know, man, I don't know.

984
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: Like again, jiu jitsu for jiu jitsu, He's gonna smoke

985
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: everyone on that fucking card. But that's not the game

986
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: we're playing.

987
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I've put some money on Viera here, Luke,

988
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 2: I got a good feeling about this, all right, Okay,

989
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: maybe we'll reconvene on Monday on that.

990
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: But anyone else you want to spotlight here? We know

991
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 3: that Carlos Oldberg could could come back and could use

992
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: a big push here, ckb product. Luke probably has an

993
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 3: active lifestyle outside the cage, being that handsome probably Luke.

994
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other kid again, I'm gonna mispronounce his name.

995
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 1: Tafan and Chook Wei out of Camp Springs, Maryland heavy

996
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: heavy puncher.

997
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: Look at those odds, Luke. They're both in the in

998
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: the minus.

999
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a little bit surprising to me because

1000
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: Oldberg definitely has I think he'll have a better gas tank.

1001
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that's exactly true, but I think that

1002
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: probably is true. But certainly he's got a more upright,

1003
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: but stick and move kind of style. Could he use

1004
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: that range, that ability to tag and go to land

1005
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: on Tifon? Probably so, But Tifon is a fucking murderous puncher.

1006
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean that dude lands and he starts spinning heads

1007
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: like it's the Exorcist. I think if he begins to

1008
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: land on Olberg at all, he's going to demolish him.

1009
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: So I'm actually I take seriously Olberg's chances of winning,

1010
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: but I actually think that this is in Schooquay's fight

1011
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: to lose a little bit more so. And I think

1012
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna find that chin. But we'll see, because

1013
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: he had he's had some ups and downs in the

1014
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: octagon as well.

1015
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's some big room to grow there for

1016
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: well Olberg. If he gets a win, he's gonna have

1017
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: to mature here and show us what he's got. Luke,

1018
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: I know that you're you're, like, you know, a good person.

1019
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: You you you you know you're a fan of happy

1020
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: endings no gross connotation at all?

1021
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: Does does life klarma say that that?

1022
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: You know, are you cheering for JP buys Bays given

1023
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: the you know, a fall out of his relationship and

1024
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: the possible deportation now and all that?

1025
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Really remember that?

1026
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: But you don't remember when when Cheyenne left and went

1027
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: to Europe he was you know, JP put out on

1028
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: social media that like they only got married for the

1029
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: green card and now or for this.

1030
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't follow them on social or do I care

1031
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: about the sordid romantic rule.

1032
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 3: I know you're not a big Days of Our Lives fan,

1033
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: but are you chairing deep inside against Cody Dirden here

1034
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 3: for JP Bays to get some life karma back?

1035
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: Listen, Here's what I always say about these fights. I

1036
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: just hope that the guy or the lady who deserve

1037
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: to win wins, which is to say that those are

1038
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: the judges. No, But dude, here's the thing. This ship

1039
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: is difficult, man, This ship is difficult. It's extremely difficult

1040
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: to do what they're doing. And at some point you

1041
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: just kind of have to look at this and say,

1042
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I just hope that fairness reigns. The person who was

1043
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: better doesn't have some stupid injury or if it goes

1044
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: to the judges, they don't get fucked by him. That's

1045
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: the only thing I ever care about. But beyond that,

1046
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't have a rooting interest.

1047
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, thank you for that speech.

1048
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: I know. Way you want me to learn, hear to say,

1049
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: is I hope he sticks it to that just well

1050
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But that's not who I am. Bro,

1051
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: That's not what I do.

1052
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I hope he does, and I hope he

1053
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: goes to hell. Yes, yes, yes, yeah.

1054
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: You want me to be Samuel L. Jackson in a

1055
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: Time to Kill, But Bro, that's you know, I'm more

1056
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: snakes on a plane guy or whatever the fuck. That's

1057
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: not how It's not what I do.

1058
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: Luke.

1059
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: You know we mentioned on Wednesday the sloppy super Bowl

1060
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: of the week is this opener, as Vanessa Demopolis makes

1061
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 3: her return after the viral victory and leap she made

1062
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: against Ginu Fry. But Luke Fry is minus two point

1063
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: fifty Demopolis plus two ten.

1064
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: Are you feeling like a frisky upset here?

1065
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question.

1066
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean, tell the people how to invest their money

1067
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: at least Luke.

1068
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Don't buy crypto. It's the first thing i'd say. Second

1069
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: thing I'd say is, see, here's the thing, man, Genu.

1070
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Frey can piece her up on the feet and Demopolis

1071
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: gets hit more than I would call what is advisable. Yeah, yeah,

1072
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: but but Frey can kind of she's a little bit older,

1073
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: and I don't know that her game holds up under

1074
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: pressure through the course of the rounds, and Demopolis has

1075
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: some dog in her man, she kind of gets after

1076
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: it and she'll take punches to kind of deliver it,

1077
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: which is like, Okay, I can see why the odd

1078
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: odsmakers did what they did, because I do think Frey

1079
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: a Fry is the better striker of the two and

1080
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: can put it on her in a much more calculated way,

1081
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: probably through most of the bout. But if Demopolis can

1082
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: hang on, make it a little bit an uglier affair,

1083
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: bring into the grappling a little bit, very very winnable

1084
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: for her. So I understand favoring Frey a Fry. I'm

1085
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: say it anymore.

1086
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: That's more consistent, She's more consistent.

1087
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: Yea, Yes, that's so Demopolis. She she she can rise

1088
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: to the occasion in ways I think better than her opponent.

1089
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: Here would you this is not an insult? Would you

1090
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: say that Demopolis is the American betch koheia?

1091
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Well, would that mean.

1092
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: Kind of like it has underdog es but yet like

1093
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 3: carries themselves like you know, like I do on Morning

1094
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: Combat basically and uh and you know it takes damage like.

1095
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: Can get can get solved, can get served, can get beaten,

1096
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: but also can raise to get dramatic wins that almost

1097
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: make them like folk heroes, like.

1098
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean the title, I mean the style of eating

1099
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: a punch to give one That works for a little while,

1100
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: but if you start climbing the ranks, you're gonna get annihilated.

1101
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Like for example, I mean, this is a very different

1102
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: division and a very different matchup, but you can't play

1103
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: that game against Rockmanov. He will fuck you up. Like,

1104
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work.

1105
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, like cheff Chenko versus Iluke, it's not gonna work.

1106
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: Okay, but that didn't work for a lot of other

1107
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: reasons other than that. But what I'm trying to make

1108
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: is you can do that for a little while. So

1109
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: to your point, there might be some elements of that,

1110
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: for sure, but that has there's a there's a ceiling

1111
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: on how far you can take that all right.

1112
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: Let's take it to another good MMA card this weekend.

1113
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: In our second Topicluke, what a night show? What a

1114
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: great show we've already been given the people. Belotour two

1115
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: eighty two airs only on Showtime this evening nine pm Eastern,

1116
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: but do not miss, by the way, I think at

1117
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: six pm Eastern start on Pluto TV, also on the

1118
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: uh social media and YouTube channels of Bellatoor and Showtime Sports.

1119
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: That undercart is stacked with names, so I mean, from

1120
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: Rack Garbage to Katzingano.

1121
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot going on there.

1122
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: But Luke, damn, do we have a really good main

1123
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: card as well?

1124
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: Middleweight title A topic?

1125
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: Gayguard musas uh maybe doing some of his best work

1126
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: at age thirty six twelve and one in his last

1127
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 3: thirteen taking on Johnny Evlin, who is rising, unbeaten, can wrestle.

1128
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: It seems to have that next level toughness and go

1129
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: get it in him. Luke, you and I were up.

1130
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 3: And down CBS Sports HQ this week we interviewed musas

1131
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 3: We've been breaking this shit. Now now it's time to

1132
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: really find out what it's gonna look like. Luke Musasi

1133
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: minus two thirty five. Does this go the distance?

1134
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: What is there?

1135
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: Momentum swings? What does this thing look like? It's not

1136
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: gonna be like Vanderford. It's not gonna be over like that, Lucas.

1137
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's right. I think Eblin's gonna be

1138
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: a much tougher fight than Vanderford. Now, Vanderford kind of

1139
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: imploded relatively quickly, so there is that. But to your point,

1140
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: I do think there's gonna be some pretty critical moments

1141
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: in this fight where Eblin is able to establish contact,

1142
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: get him down or at least get him to a scramble,

1143
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: like what's gonna happen here? Kind of position, make Musasi

1144
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: work and whatnot. But the thing it's hard for me

1145
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: to overcome is like if that gets taken away or

1146
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: minimized or isn't the deciding factor, where the deciding factor

1147
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: is actually what happens on the feet, that to me

1148
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: is going to be a very difficult fight for Eblin

1149
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: to win. Eblin has to me to win this fight.

1150
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: If he's gonna win, he's got to do it. Like again,

1151
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: he's got more in the tank and he's got more

1152
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: to give than what Darien Caldwell does in terms of

1153
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: well roundedness, Darian Coldwell is not very well rounded at all.

1154
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: I think that's not unfair to say Eblin is much

1155
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: more well rounded. But in this particular fight, striking for striking,

1156
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: who believe, again, this is Mma crazy shit happens. I understand,

1157
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: But does anyone really believe that Eblin is a better

1158
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: striker than Musasi because I certainly don't believe that. But

1159
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: I do believe he's a better wrestler. But this isn't

1160
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: a wrestling match. All you have to do is play

1161
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: prevent defense, and you can nullify Musas. Doesn't have to

1162
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: have a wrestling game with him. He can If this

1163
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: is going to be a wrestling match, is because Eblin

1164
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: has to force Musase into a space where he has

1165
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: to make it that way. And I think he can

1166
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: do that for parts. But do I really believe he

1167
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: can do that for the totality of twenty five minutes,

1168
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: or at least enough of twenty five minutes. I should say,

1169
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. I think he makes it tough, dude, I

1170
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: really really do, but I'm skeptical he can do enough

1171
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: of that to win.

1172
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: First of all, this fight's tonight Friday, so we got

1173
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: to drop that lower third on there. We got to

1174
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: get our editing team.

1175
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: It needs to Oh yeah, they put up Saturday. They

1176
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: fuck that's.

1177
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: Going on tonight Friday. Belatore two vegan Son only on showtime.

1178
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: As we talked about Luke, you nailed it, though, can

1179
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: Eblin do it better over five full rounds?

1180
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: You know? Can he finish the legend? You know? Not likely?

1181
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: Sure, certainly possible, Not likely, though, He's going to have

1182
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: to show us something, Luke, beyond just having you know,

1183
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: moments where maybe he does get some success on the ground,

1184
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: Like you're saying, I mean, I don't expect him to

1185
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 3: maul nobody mauls Musasci like that, Like, I mean, this

1186
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: is not that type of fight. It's going to be

1187
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: whether Eblin could play chess on this level. So, like,

1188
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: how confident are you in his striking?

1189
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: Really?

1190
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 3: Not his striking for one round, his striking for twenty

1191
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: five minutes should should there? You know, the wrestling success

1192
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: not have great success and this is a fight on

1193
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 3: the feet, dude.

1194
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: My view is like, if this is on the feet

1195
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: for several minutes, I think Eblin can Like I just

1196
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: don't believe there's going to be a lasting striking battle

1197
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: on the feet, which is to say, the following right one.

1198
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: He's either gonna Eblan's gonna get tagged with something big,

1199
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: so that's one problem, or it won't be a prolonged

1200
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: striking battle on the feet because Eblin will constantly, if

1201
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: not get the takedown, close contact, mix it up, shoot

1202
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: for the hips, where he just won't allow it to be.

1203
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: Now again, we all know if the takedown has to

1204
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: happen and you have to put something behind it for

1205
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: judges to count it. So either way, I just don't

1206
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: see a long striking battle. I guess I should ask

1207
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: you what do you think happens on the feet to

1208
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: the extent that let's say Eblin gets a takedown but

1209
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: can't do a whole lot with it. There's still two

1210
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: three minutes left in the round. Give me your sense

1211
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: of what the rest of that round looks like.

1212
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: You know from distance he's gonna have a problem. He

1213
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: doesn't have the same technique and experience.

1214
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1215
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: It's like you can watch his highlight reel and go, Okay,

1216
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: he's got some hands, you know, but it's against various

1217
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: levels of competition. I'm not fully secure that he can

1218
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: go win three rounds against Musasi. If this is seventy

1219
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: five percent of strike, that'll know. So he's not gonna

1220
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 3: be able to win the JAB game in that But can't, Luke,

1221
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: can he though, use the youth and physicality and that

1222
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: that that that hutspat.

1223
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: You know, he's ever lost.

1224
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: You know, he's he's walking around like like he's got

1225
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: a secret Luke, that he's carrying a gay Guard level hammer.

1226
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: And by the way, a lot of talk about gay

1227
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: Guard's hammer lately. I don't know. It's it's like flooding.

1228
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: You know, it's not my favorite topic, but it's out there.

1229
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: Luke.

1230
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: I don't have that confidence that I've seen Eblin do

1231
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 2: that yet.

1232
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: So he's gonna have to be a guy, Luke that

1233
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 3: can raise his game considerably to something we haven't seen

1234
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: and really make that leap. I don't know if I

1235
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: see him as that guy, Luke, and he may have

1236
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: to be that guy because the Musasi of the last

1237
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: two fights is different than the guy.

1238
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 2: In previous years. He's he's he's on a run, Luke.

1239
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: He's focused.

1240
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: Yet he's also said he had to cut twenty four

1241
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: pounds in twenty four hours He's like, yeah, yeah, it

1242
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: was hard, but it wasn't a big deal.

1243
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of gay guard to

1244
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: be fair, right now, Yeah.

1245
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: Dude, if I if I'm Evelin, I'm making I'm making

1246
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: musase work, even if I don't necessarily win the first

1247
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: round or even the second. Dude, I'm gonna drain that

1248
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: fucker as much as I possibly can. Right, that's what

1249
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: you want to do, And then I mean I go

1250
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: back to this. People think that's some kind of like

1251
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: silly game plan. Dude, That's exactly what Habib did to Connor.

1252
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: Folks are like, oh, Habib didn't do anything in the

1253
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: first round. Dude, score the first round for Connor if

1254
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: you want. I don't give a shit. That wasn't the point.

1255
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: The point was, however good you are at striking, it

1256
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: is significantly diminished. Talking about Connor McGregor when he is

1257
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: fully ready to go first round, we know the story

1258
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: about Connor. He gets shot out of a cannon, he's

1259
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: dialed in, he's got his distance, and everything's cooking. Early

1260
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Habib was like, I'm not playing this fucking game with you.

1261
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: So he takes him down, wraps him up, and makes

1262
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: him work, and what happens at the beginning of the

1263
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: second round. He steals on him and drops him. That's

1264
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: what happens in that second round because there was a

1265
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: much less of a threat by virtue of making him work.

1266
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: That is Eblin's task. Eblin's task is not like, dude,

1267
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: this is Eblin's twelfth MMA fight, twelfth. Musasi is going

1268
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: for his fiftieth win in tonight. I mean, that's just

1269
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: a fucking insane to think about the experience difference there.

1270
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: So if a guy had a big weightcut and he's like,

1271
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: and we asked him on CBS Sports, what does this

1272
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 1: win mean to you, He's like, fuck all, it doesn't

1273
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: mean shit. It means another win. I have to go

1274
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: get blah blah blah. Like he wasn't taken. I'm not

1275
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: saying he wasn't taken seriously, but he didn't see it

1276
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: as some kind of like significant career moment. Dude, if

1277
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: you're Johnny Evlin, the task is not to imagine you

1278
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: can outstrike Musasi at his best. The task is drain

1279
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: him into something less than what he ordinarily.

1280
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: Is, so that could come in the clinch.

1281
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: Although I would never tell somebody go fight in the

1282
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: clinch with Musasi right like that that's not an advisable position,

1283
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: but those may be the areas he have to be

1284
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: in to lean on him and really get him into something,

1285
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 3: because it was weird to see geguard pass off in

1286
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: the interview we did with Am on CBA Sports HQ

1287
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: about the weight cut, like it didn't matter and then

1288
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: just say, look from here on out, I'm smashing everybody.

1289
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna walk through everybody. Does he mean that?

1290
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1291
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: Does he just mean he's loose and free and believes

1292
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: in himself now and you know more than ever? Like

1293
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 3: is he gonna come oh, guns blazing here, Luke. I

1294
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: don't know if i'd advise that either. If I'm him,

1295
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 3: I make the young guy come to me and make

1296
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 3: a mistake.

1297
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, I think Musase. There's a question like

1298
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: do you want to fight on the front foot of

1299
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: the back foot? More metaphorically than literal. But if I'm Musas,

1300
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: you have to play that game a little bit carefully

1301
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: because I do think you want to set traps for

1302
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: the over eager guy, Like if you know that guy's

1303
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna come out and first thing, he's tried to do

1304
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: is take you down. You have a clear sense of like, Okay,

1305
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: this is how he wants to pursue this, and of

1306
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: course you have to defend that out. But the other

1307
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: part is, like Vanderford was, for example, walking into punches

1308
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: all the time, Musas is real good about intercepting intercepting

1309
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: over committed fighters. So that's another sort of wrinkle here

1310
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: that Eblin has to kind of navigate. Okay, you want

1311
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: to put it on, I'm amazing. He's not just gonna

1312
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: let you do it. And I don't think that walking

1313
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: Eblin down until later in the fight makes a whole

1314
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: lot of sense. So Musasi has to play a version

1315
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: i'll say, ABC of Ropodope here potentially early where he

1316
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: doesn't give too much away if Eblin is actually over committed,

1317
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to get overwhelmed either. You don't

1318
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: want you don't want to have to constantly be laboring

1319
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: in these situations, so you kind of have to play

1320
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: it a little bit strangely, but I do think that

1321
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: is in play.

1322
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 3: Dude, when when Musasi starts to go downhill, when he

1323
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: feels like he's figured it out and he starts working

1324
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: behind that heavy jab that. You know, that's not easy, dude.

1325
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot of power, experience, and precision behind that.

1326
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: He's able to take a lead and bury you. So

1327
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: we're really gonna have to find out what Johnny Eblin

1328
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: is if he's going to be the next Beltour Middleway champion.

1329
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.

1330
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 3: I think he gets to the finish line, Luke, I

1331
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: think we'll see a competitive fight here, both having their

1332
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: moments in the particular strengths that we talked about. But

1333
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: I can't get past the minus two thirty favorite musase,

1334
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: you know, surviving and advancing and by the way, looking

1335
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: good doing it.

1336
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: I think so again, people have just slept on Johnny

1337
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: Eblin like they think he's just some scrub that Belatore

1338
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: found out of nowhere. And yeah, he beat a couple

1339
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: of Belatour guys. He can't be that good. No, I mean, listen,

1340
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: for your twelfth MMA fight, fighting is an enormous task.

1341
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: It's almost I'm not gonna say unwinnable. I don't think

1342
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: that's true, but you would agree. You see, this is

1343
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: for your twelfth MMA fight. To this is a lot

1344
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: to ask out of somebody, or twelve to thirteenth, whatever

1345
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: it is at this point. But you know it, we're

1346
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: in very few fights he has, so in that sense,

1347
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: this is an enormously you know, I don't even know

1348
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: if you it wouldn't even make sense to favor him

1349
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: to win, to be quite candid. But at the same time,

1350
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: I do think he's talented. I do think he has

1351
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: a bright future. I take what he offers pretty seriously,

1352
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: and I do think it is at least winnable for

1353
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Evlin. But to your point, unless he unless something

1354
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: goes wrong for Musac, he should have certainly the experience

1355
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: and certainly the overall task to get the job done here,

1356
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: I favor him to win, probably by decision.

1357
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: Luke, that's a very good man event. But these two

1358
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 3: hair hair bantam weights, the Grand Prix, rolls onto the quarterfinals,

1359
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: the title, the one million dollars, all that is at

1360
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 3: the end of the rainbow here, although technically is it

1361
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 3: rafe on stats is your interim champion at the moment.

1362
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: And Thenrew Pettis is the full on champion.

1363
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But as we've talked about a few times, Luke,

1364
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: this tournament looks different than we thought. Pettis out with

1365
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: an injury, Kyoji hor Gucci out with a loss, so

1366
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: it's wide open. So you got two fights here with

1367
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: different sort of storylines coming in both the same goal

1368
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: at the end of it, somebody's gonna fight PATCHI Mix

1369
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: and somebody's gonna fight raffe On Statts and we're gonna

1370
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: end up figuring out who the new millionaire champion is.

1371
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: Let's start though, with the one that's getting all the attention.

1372
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: That's Danny Sabtelo. You interviewed him this week. Check it

1373
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: out YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat along with the

1374
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: Eblin chat.

1375
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: By the way, but he's getting the love. The Oh

1376
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 2: my god, this guy. He's brash.

1377
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: He's a minus five twenty favorite and he's also, by

1378
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: the way, was a much larger favorite just a few

1379
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: days ago against Leandro Higo and Luke. He go plus

1380
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: four ten. Like he told you, Sabattelo has been saying

1381
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: it for a year now. It's seemingly he goes shit,

1382
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: you know, he fucking sucks.

1383
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna show you all. I'm gonna make him quit.

1384
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do really a sadistic things to him at

1385
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: the end of the day, like when you're a brash,

1386
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: loudmouth Luke, you gotta back it up.

1387
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: He's backed it up so far. Is there any reason

1388
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: to believe he isn't as good as he says he is?

1389
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's. I don't think Ego is as

1390
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 1: bad as he says he is. I'll put it that way.

1391
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't believe in Sabotelo. I think

1392
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: he's actually quite good. But you know, when he says

1393
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: Ego sucks, well, let me just sort of like spoil

1394
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: the narrative here. Ego does not suck. He is. He

1395
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: is quite talented. But at the same time, man Sabatlo do.

1396
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: He's so quick his he has it seems like phenomenal cardio,

1397
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: good strength, decent to good ground and pound, But it's

1398
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: not like he's got the kind of control from from

1399
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: Kolby where you never really imagine someone's in danger but

1400
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: they kind of have to take it seriously and he

1401
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: kind of rides out the fight sometimes not again. I

1402
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: know he's had some other fights where he's had a

1403
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: good ground and pound. Sabatello is more than that. He's

1404
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: got a much more physical style of control, and he

1405
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: really took it to Lugo in his last fight, which

1406
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: I thought was gonna be somewhat competitive, it wasn't competitive

1407
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: at all.

1408
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 3: Ego does have he's a son of a bitch, Luke.

1409
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: He fights like a son of a bitch, Sabatelo. He

1410
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: fights like he's gonna he wants to actually hurt you

1411
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 3: and probably bang your sister. Like he really comes with

1412
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: really foul intentions into that case.

1413
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the other part, Like he's just got a

1414
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 1: mean streak, and that's what you want out of fighters too.

1415
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: Not not everyone's gonna be that way, and some can, you know,

1416
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: some of the very best like GSP never had a

1417
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: mean streak and he's, you know, obviously a Hall of Famer,

1418
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: But uh why, Sabatello has just got a real edge

1419
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: to him, so there, excuse me. There are some questions

1420
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: about striking on the feet, there are some questions about

1421
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: exactly what kind of ground dominance he's going to employ,

1422
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,959
Speaker 1: But there's not a doubt in my mind Ego gets

1423
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: taken down, There's not a doubt in my mind. He

1424
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: hasking he's gonna have to fight out of a lot

1425
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: of difficult positions in this one. Sabatello is a hammer,

1426
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: make no mistake.

1427
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be good this this and it

1428
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 3: could it I mean it could be a one sided. Yeah,

1429
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: Sabatello is is what he says. He has moment there,

1430
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 3: but you know, at least Ego has the both the

1431
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: resume to make that meansing.

1432
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: But also he's good enough where it's gonna.

1433
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 3: Be an interesting fight if he fights him at even terms,

1434
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 3: and then we'll see what Sabotel could do with the

1435
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 3: adjustments and all that. But Luke, Danny Sabs I mean

1436
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 3: the bleach blonde hair, the son, I mean, it's so

1437
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: eighties pro wrestling. So when he showed up at ATT

1438
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: and I liked him telling the backstory when you chatted

1439
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: with him that like, you know, it's overused to say

1440
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: bet on yourself, but like, boy, did he just show

1441
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: up unannounced at att and was like, I'm here, I'll

1442
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 3: do whatever it takes. You're gonna, you know, build this

1443
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 3: whole gym er on me basically Eventually, dude, when Dan

1444
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: Lambert first like smelled this guy, given his pro wrestling

1445
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: flirtations on the side, given the fact that he has

1446
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: been credited by those who know with like making Colby

1447
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: Covington's character at least the original rise of what that was.

1448
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: Dude, that's this.

1449
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: This sounds like a you know, mentor mentee match made

1450
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 3: in heaven for the commercial side of.

1451
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: It, Luke, Yeah, did Baltor needs more guys like this?

1452
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, not everyone has to be Danny Sabatello, and

1453
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: not everyone can and that's not what I'm saying, but

1454
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: just sort of brash, loud guys who are actually really

1455
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: really good guys who make it ugly, guys who make

1456
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: wag ins memorable or something like that. And Sabotelo is

1457
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: just getting started. This is hardly you know, this is

1458
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: hardly the He's been around forever. He's been fighting for

1459
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: what four years or something. But the point I'm trying

1460
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: to make is that he's He's just got a lot.

1461
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: If you're a promoter man, you ask for guys like

1462
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: Sabatello mean, nasty, tough, but when it comes time to

1463
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: get down there and be hard nosed, that is what

1464
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: he does. And you look at him like Lugo is

1465
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: able to stop a bunch of takedowns. Here we are

1466
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: ninety seconds into the fight, and Lugo's on his back

1467
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: and he's starting to have to deal with this dude.

1468
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what he's all about to He

1469
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: is unrelenting, unforgiving, and you know, I know he talks

1470
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: like that in interviews, but when you watch him fight,

1471
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: he's like that too. Like it's not like Sean Strickland,

1472
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: who is a very good fighter obviously, but we'll say

1473
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: things like, oh, you know, outrageous shit that gets him

1474
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: banned on social and then he fights in a very calculated,

1475
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: somewhat safish kind of way, which I have no issue with,

1476
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: but it doesn't match the rhetoric. No, it matches the

1477
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: rhetoric here. Yeah.

1478
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great to sum it up. It really

1479
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: really does.

1480
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 3: I mean, he has gotten our attention, and there's obviously

1481
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: gonna be those that hate it and don't think he's

1482
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 3: that great and want to see him get kot acting

1483
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 3: like that, But damn does that put butts in seats interest.

1484
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: So if you're Scott Cooker, you got to love when

1485
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: Sabatelo has been telling everyone this week like I love Belatore.

1486
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: I want to retire here, like you know, Okay, let's

1487
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 3: see if he's good enough to get to that level, Luke.

1488
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: Let's see if he is the next you know what

1489
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: Pitt Bull and Chandler have meant to this promotion and

1490
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: now aj McKee as well.

1491
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see what happens. But let's see if

1492
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: he can do this. He go tough enough to make

1493
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: it a good fight.

1494
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: But do you think we've seen enough striking from Sabatelo

1495
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 3: to carry that same confidence we have for his intangibles

1496
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: and obviously for what he could do on the ground.

1497
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: Big question marks about that, big question marks for as

1498
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: good as he is in many respects, not really seeing

1499
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot in the stand up department that either

1500
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: tells me much. So I want to be reserved in

1501
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: my judgment. But what we have.

1502
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: Seen, he's better than Ben Askrin and right.

1503
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, for sure. I mean he's got some

1504
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: abilities there. It's not like he's got nothing going on.

1505
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: But you know, we talk about A and B skill sets.

1506
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: Does he have enough in the B skill set to

1507
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: win if the A one isn't there? Not that I

1508
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: have seen, So this potentially potentially could tell us something.

1509
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that it will, but something to pay

1510
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: attention to.

1511
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you're gonna be cock sure like that.

1512
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: Luke you better hope it's, you know, not all Cock.

1513
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: You better be sure you know what I mean, Luke.

1514
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: That's the kind of spirit right that he's bringing to

1515
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: this fight. Luky.

1516
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 3: The other quarterfinal matchup damn really good as well. Mago

1517
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 3: med Mago Medoff a minus one forty five favorite. This

1518
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: will be his first appearance since losing to Rafeon Statts

1519
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: in a very good three round fight in which he

1520
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: kind of was solved at what he does best to

1521
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: some degree, although he did rally back Luke. Tough matchup

1522
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 3: with Enrique Barzola, who's only plus one twenty five.

1523
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 2: We did talk about that on Wednesday.

1524
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: I was surprised Barzola was that close, despite being a

1525
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: guy who's fought in the UFC and in many respected

1526
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: federations around the globe.

1527
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: Here can he handle though?

1528
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: That ragdoll technique that Mago Medoff is all about from

1529
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 3: Dagastan and really has caught my eye as one of

1530
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 3: these guys whos next. I'm not that dismotivated by the stats,

1531
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 3: loss are you.

1532
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: I will tell you I had a conversation last night

1533
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: with Danny Segura and he's like, Uh, you're sleeping on

1534
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: el fuerte, which is as Barzola and uh So I

1535
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: was like, all right, the odds are already close, like,

1536
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: for example, Sabatelo and Ego. Sabatel is a minus five

1537
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: twenty favorite. Now again, Ego is not a bad fighter,

1538
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: but those are pretty wide odds. Sabateelo probably should win

1539
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: this one, if not comfortably, but you know, certifiably. But

1540
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: this one with Mega Manov and Barzola, I don't know.

1541
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: So I went back and I watched them with Barzola's

1542
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: fights and his UFC fights, Like, dude, he fought Evloef

1543
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 1: Like nobody looks good fighting that guy, so not like

1544
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: you can ignore it, but I don't know if it

1545
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: tells you a whole lot for this one. And then

1546
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: I watched his Caldwell fight at Belatore two seventy three. Dude,

1547
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: Barzola is a handful. The big takeaway I had in

1548
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: was won. He has a lot of good scrambling ability,

1549
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,919
Speaker 1: a lot of good defensive wrestling ability, but the biggest

1550
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: one BC and this is the one that, like Stotts,

1551
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: was able to use to his advantage. Stotts ultimately was

1552
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: able to use offensive wrestling and offensive grappling. I don't

1553
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: know if Barceola's going to have that in play against

1554
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: a guy like maca Manoff. He has some of that

1555
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: for sure, but I don't know if that would be

1556
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: the deciding factor. But I will say this, dude, he

1557
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: was unrelenting in not giving up the takedown, or if

1558
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: the takedown happened, constantly fought position, like whatever Caldwell wanted

1559
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: to do at every stage of whatever was happening in

1560
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: the grappling, he would not accept the position ever ever,

1561
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 1: and so finally by the third round, Caldwell was tired

1562
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: of shit, and uh it was for a takedown.

1563
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 3: Ah Well, we all kind of just went, oh, that's

1564
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 3: Darrian Caldwell, like like somebody hit the.

1565
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: One spot in the Death Star.

1566
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 3: But it was Let's give Barzola more credit for making

1567
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: him get to that point, right, ye.

1568
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: That That's what I'm trying to make is like people

1569
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: want to make a Well Caldwell kind of just does

1570
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: this stuff. But dude, pay attention to the first two

1571
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: rounds where Caldwell could not keep this guy down, or

1572
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: if he got him down, it wasn't for very long,

1573
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: or if he got into a position he just couldn't

1574
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: do anything with it. He resisted. That's the po I'm

1575
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: trying to make. He resisted with urgency every step of

1576
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: what Caldwell was trying to do in the grappling game.

1577
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: That has to pay dividends. Then by the time Caldwell

1578
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: shot in late he stuffed it, took the back, and

1579
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: then pounded him out in the third and called it

1580
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: a day. Now again, Caldwell is not Mega Madeoff. Maga

1581
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: Madev is not Caldwell. But do I understand why people

1582
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: believe in Barzola's upside and why they think he can

1583
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: win this one? Yeah? I really do. I think this

1584
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: is a coin flip, to be quite honest with you.

1585
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: And Maga Madoff probably has more polish and has more

1586
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 1: outside skills than what Caldwell was able to show, and

1587
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: for that reason I slightly still lean towards Mega Madoff.

1588
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: But dude, this one is not as in the bag

1589
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: as a lot of folks. Oh it's a Dakastani hammer

1590
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 1: versus a guy who got cut from the UFC. That's

1591
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: the wrong way to look at this.

1592
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the wrong narrative for sure.

1593
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: And am I overrating Maga Metof And I'm you know,

1594
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: not being this nervous after seeing him go ahead to

1595
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 3: have with Stats and you know, not be able to

1596
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: find the answer and lose that fight.

1597
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 2: Why am I so confident?

1598
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 3: Well, Luke, I mean, you know, he beat Peter Yawn

1599
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: in an absolute war, you know what I mean? You know,

1600
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: and he and of course he lost the rematch, but

1601
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: he like he can do some things in his first

1602
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 3: couple of belator fights where we got really introduced to him,

1603
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, they were like, holy shit, this guy can

1604
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 3: really do it.

1605
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 2: I did like.

1606
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 3: Some of the things he did in the second half

1607
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: of the Stats fight, you know.

1608
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: Was it alarming to.

1609
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: See him contained like that in some ways? Yes, But

1610
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 3: I believe the motors there. I believe the you know,

1611
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 3: the pedigrees there. If he beats Barzola and does so

1612
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: where you're like, damn, I mean, he's the favorite.

1613
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: To win this tournament, Luke maga Medov.

1614
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1615
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: If he goes out there and handles Barzola, which I

1616
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: agree with what you're saying, it's the odds speak for themselves.

1617
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 3: It's going to be a tough ass fight. Like if

1618
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 3: he makes the statement he's capable of and bounces back

1619
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: from the Statts loss in the way that I believe

1620
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: he can. He's going to exit that fight. As as

1621
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 3: the man regard to I mean, I know that's tough

1622
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 3: because Sabotello is there and he's still largely unproven, but

1623
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 3: he's coming on. I mean, you know, the old the

1624
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: old PATCHI Mixes is no joke. And in respect to uh,

1625
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: who's Who's Oh Statts is the other guy in the

1626
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 3: other brecket.

1627
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Like, if he wins this one,

1628
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: he has to fight PATCHI mix and I would, okay,

1629
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: my favorit him to be Patchy, but then he probably

1630
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: has to face the winner of Ego Ego Sabaatello or stats.

1631
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: Like if Stotts, He's not going to.

1632
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 3: Be easy, Yeah, Luke, But but we'll know, we'll know

1633
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 3: obviously in this fight if he can make some kind

1634
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 3: of statement, whether he's got a chance to go back

1635
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 3: and right the wrong against Stotts, which would be an

1636
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 3: incredible fight. Again, in the first fight with Stotts clearly winning,

1637
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: but still was it was you know, it was a

1638
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: evenly matched fight for a lot of it, you know

1639
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1640
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: Yes, No, no, it wasn't some blowout. No no, no, no, no,

1641
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. But like what I if

1642
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: Maga Madov beats Barzola here, would I see him as

1643
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: the favorite to win the tournament?

1644
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: No?

1645
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: I would not.

1646
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Favorite was the wrong word because it implies

1647
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: that everyone agrees with that. I guess I'm saying probably

1648
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: more of the you know the guy you're sleeping on,

1649
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: but still he could be coming on in the same

1650
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: for Barzola, who fought his way in like Sabotello winning

1651
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: a qualifying round.

1652
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: Now he's in the big dance. We know the names

1653
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: that are remaining. Uh Luke is it? Uh? Who are

1654
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 2: the two? Who are the two that are coming out

1655
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: of this tonight? Wellhegan Son.

1656
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: I think Sabaatello gets it, and I'm gonna edge towards

1657
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: Maga made off Sabatlo. I'm reasonably confident the Barzola and

1658
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 1: Maga Madof fight. Dude. I again, I'm gonna lean Maga Matov,

1659
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know.

1660
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: The tournament kind of rules right now. It's it's pretty

1661
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 3: bad ass, Luke.

1662
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: Uh, dude, that's one of the best things Bella Tour

1663
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: has done. It's a shame that everything kind of didn't

1664
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: get going on schedule that they needed it to, and

1665
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: it kind of sucks that horror Gucci's out, but like, dude,

1666
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, and then also that that Sergio Pettis is

1667
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: not and it is not it's.

1668
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 2: Not the well that damaging.

1669
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: So to bounce back like that and suddenly have a

1670
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 3: guy like Sabotello and if Barzola gets to win here,

1671
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: holy shit, like to have those two names just inserted

1672
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: in to kind of mix it up a little.

1673
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: It's been great. It's been absolutely great.

1674
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: I agree that the tournament is phenomenal and for folks

1675
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: kind of sleeping on it, you shouldn't be. These are

1676
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: going to be phenomenal tournament fights tonight.

1677
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: Luke also on that main card with the local Flare

1678
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 3: because boy does Brent Iris Brennan Ward pack up from

1679
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: the New London, Connecticut area. Wherever he fights in the

1680
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: Greater area, he'll be taking on Cassius Cane. This is

1681
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: more about the get well if you if you're not aware,

1682
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 3: Brennan Ward was out of the sport for five years

1683
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 3: with drug addiction and and and in a really bad

1684
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: spot in life and was able to turn it all around.

1685
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 3: And you know he's now revealing, Luke, that those big

1686
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: fights that we saw him in where he's always been

1687
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: all or nothing as a slugger, Like he wasn't even

1688
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 3: doing training camps for those he's like all like completely

1689
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 3: doing drugs and partying like crazy and just living the

1690
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 3: rock star life. And so it's it's great that he

1691
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 3: turned it around, that he's back, But I don't know,

1692
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: if you saw his comeback fight, Luke, it's still all

1693
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: or nothing in terms of what he brings for the style.

1694
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be worth watching.

1695
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how good he can still be or

1696
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: you know, he seems like he's always going to be

1697
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: that guy that you if you get him first, you

1698
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 3: get him.

1699
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: But at the very least, like great to see.

1700
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: Him back in the in the you know, in a

1701
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 3: spot in life where he deserves to.

1702
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: Be sure his style has Excuse me, his story, as

1703
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: you indicated, was, I mean, he was headed in an

1704
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: extremely dark direction, could have lost his life, could have

1705
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: lost a lot of things. But again I think he's

1706
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: a new father and has you know, gotten back to

1707
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: a place that seems significantly healthier and he's an all

1708
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: action fighter. He's from Connecticut, he'll be selling more tickets

1709
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: in that building than anybody else will, including the headliner.

1710
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. So if you know asking who's

1711
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: going to get the biggest pop on the main card,

1712
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be Brennan Ward for sure.

1713
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, always fun to watch. So I'm chair

1714
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 3: and for him in that regard that he's.

1715
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: Back at it.

1716
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: We'll see what Cashius Kane brings to the table and

1717
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: if Brennan Ward can winning from fun fights.

1718
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: Always with a guy like that.

1719
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: Gunslinger, for sure, Luca can bret premise he he'll be

1720
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: back in the prelim feature about against Alexander Shabille Primus

1721
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: a plus one ninety underdog. He has been the champ before,

1722
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 3: although it came with the injured ankle of the chandler

1723
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 3: on what the checking of the kick. Either way, we've

1724
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: seen that he can do it before. He's getting a

1725
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: little bit long in the tooth. What do you see

1726
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:25,440
Speaker 3: happening tonight.

1727
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: That one? I'm not so sure because Primise can kind

1728
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: of fight in a lot of or I should say

1729
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: happens to fight in a lot of different ways at times.

1730
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see what role close distance fighting

1731
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: and or the takedown plays in how Primis answers to

1732
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: Shabilly's pressure. I think that's sort of what I'm paying

1733
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: attention to. It's very i would say, winnable fight in

1734
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: either direction. I do believe that this is not some

1735
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: blowout at all, but I Shabelly is good, like really

1736
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: really good. This is a not an easy fight for premise.

1737
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: And by the way, you're talking about like dar courses,

1738
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, in that Belator organization generally, but certainly in

1739
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: that division, Shabeli is at the top of that list.

1740
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: And this undercard.

1741
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: The prelims six pm Eastern start on all those social

1742
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: media channels, YouTube of Belator, Showtime Sports, Pluto TV. It's

1743
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 3: gonna be worth watching. We've got Castangano against Pam Sorenson.

1744
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 3: We got anatotally tokoff is coming on a middleweight.

1745
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: Luke.

1746
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 3: He's he's a he's bringing it against Muhammad Abdullah Sabahamasi,

1747
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: Cody Law, the Mussy Prospect, Alejandro Lara's back in a

1748
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 3: fight she really must win.

1749
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Uh kill us Mota, Luke rat Garbage.

1750
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, on and on Luke, there's a

1751
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of interesting candy in the International Aisle.

1752
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Look, there's a lot, a

1753
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 2: lot to pick and choose from here.

1754
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: The Yeah, the whole card's got some fun stuff. I agree, it's.

1755
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Luke. All right.

1756
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 3: You know what, sometimes when when you're in the flow,

1757
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: time is irrelevant. It's about the quality of the moment.

1758
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, it's not but okay, all right, Luke.

1759
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 3: Pfl Also this evening from Atlanta, they're back at it, Luke.

1760
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 3: And in the main event a guy that we we

1761
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: love talking about because he seems to be that good,

1762
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 3: the defending heavyweight champion Bruno Capilosa. We saw him in

1763
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: his season one offering. He did nothing to disappoint Matteas

1764
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: Scheffel is the opponent here, Luke, let's let's let's buckle up, Bruno.

1765
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: Bruno's won me over, Luke. He's won my heart.

1766
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's fun as shit, all action, big power, big

1767
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: big dude, great story, love everything about it. Shoot well again,

1768
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: not crazy favorite again, Umar and Numa made is a

1769
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: much bigger one. But minus five sixty to Cheffer's plus

1770
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: four thirty, I'm gonna guess BC. And this is just

1771
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: me speaking thinking out loud. I'm going to guess that

1772
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 1: someone's going to be sent to the Land of Winding

1773
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: Ghosts in this one and is likely to be.

1774
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: Scheffle Capilosa minus five sixty favorite plus four thirty is Chefle, Luke.

1775
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 3: Anthony Pettis seems to be in a great spot physically mentally.

1776
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 3: He's a promoter on the side. He's still a fighter though,

1777
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: and his submission win over Miles what Miles prices is

1778
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 3: the gentleman. I believe he put it on showed us

1779
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: that in his offering to start off this year first

1780
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 3: round submission victory. Now he'll be a minus two hundred

1781
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 3: favorite against the plus one seventy Stevie Ray. Could showtime

1782
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 3: Pettis win this season in PFL like it is it

1783
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,839
Speaker 3: in play here, Luke. If he keeps up this look.

1784
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems to be uh Listen. Anthony

1785
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: Pettis did a lot of great things in his career

1786
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: for the Weedies Box, the UFC lightweight title, the WEC title,

1787
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: the jumping off the cage like. He has had a

1788
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: very memorable career. But and I think he probably beat

1789
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: Stevie Ray tonight. But Stevie Ray, you know, for all

1790
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: his limits, can grapple, he does have good experience. He

1791
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: he can win this one. Dude. I just feel like

1792
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: Pettis's he's taking a lot of damage and I think

1793
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 1: it's affected him. And he's also older now and he's

1794
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of things going on. I you know,

1795
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: can Petis win it, you know, three four years ago?

1796
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: Certainly today, I'm skeptical. I think he wins tonight, I do.

1797
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: I want to be clear about that. And you're right,

1798
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: he had a good bounce back performance in his last contest,

1799
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: but I think that the sun might be setting on

1800
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: what he's fully capable.

1801
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah at this point.

1802
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it would be asking a lot of

1803
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 3: him to put that little cherry on the end of

1804
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 3: his career, you know, being a PFL seasonal champion and

1805
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: the one million dollars and all that.

1806
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's great.

1807
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 3: He shouldn't be getting into wars with people because as

1808
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 3: we saw against Clay Collard, like there's this, you know,

1809
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: there's a certain level where he's in, he's life for

1810
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 3: death against these guys. If you want, if he lets

1811
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 3: it get there, you'd like to see him develop that

1812
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: same old age adjustment where you become a little bit

1813
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 3: more efficient, like Glover to share a focusing on the

1814
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 3: fundamentals of the ground game, you know, different fighters. I

1815
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 3: don't expect Pettis to do that, Luke, but if he

1816
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: can maybe be more strategic in how he's looking to,

1817
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: you know, take people down and and lean lean more

1818
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 3: things in his favor potentially, Luke, rather than going out

1819
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: there and looking to flow dance and hope to hit

1820
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: something big.

1821
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1822
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: But a lot of times he's just fighting off people

1823
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: kind of constantly trying to take him down. And his

1824
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: answer to that in UFC was to light him up

1825
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: on the feet and then you know, like for example,

1826
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: he hit Benson Henderson with that bodykick, Henderson tries to

1827
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: take him down, he hits him with an arm bar

1828
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: from the guard. Like that's nice, but that's just not

1829
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen very often. Like, and he's not like he

1830
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: has got bad defensive wrestling. I don't mean that, but like,

1831
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: have people shown an ability to occupy his time in

1832
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 1: you know, advantageous ways in grappling situations for long stretches

1833
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 1: of rounds and ultimately fights, Yes, yes they have. And

1834
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: in the process he's taken a lot of damage over

1835
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 1: the overtime. You know, can Stevie Ray execute on that?

1836
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: Certainly in play? I don't think it's likely. But even

1837
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: if he can't, I think someone else in this tournament could.

1838
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 3: Luke, You're gonna have to look out for that heavyweight,

1839
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 3: that six foot seven Brazilian.

1840
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: I told that.

1841
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 3: We showed the highlights on Have you seen this shit

1842
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: that one time? You remember Hennan Fajeda. Yeah, he's back

1843
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: as a minus four fifty favorite against a fellow by

1844
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: the name of Klinsen who is plus three sixty.

1845
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't know. I don't know how good

1846
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 2: this guy is, but he makes really fun for highlights, Luke.

1847
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: So he's an athletic as shit too. Yeah, Faha is

1848
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: not just a big puncher. That dude's like a phenomenal

1849
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: athlete and he's enormous. I tend to think he'll win

1850
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: tonight as well. The big one on this card, dude,

1851
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: is the Wade and Bockniac fight. That's the one that's

1852
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: most interesting to me.

1853
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kicks off the main card there plus three

1854
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 3: eighty for the UFC VET Bockniak Chris Wade minus four

1855
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 3: seventy five.

1856
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you?

1857
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: Luke because of his wrestling, Yes, but Bockniak is a very,

1858
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: very experienced fighter at this point. I think he knows

1859
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: what he's in for. Like, you know, if you're fighting

1860
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 1: Chris Wade, you know what the what the assignment is, right,

1861
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: Easier said than done. And again I favor Wade to win.

1862
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: But Bockniac and also Blocknak is a fucking savage dude.

1863
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Like he can be down the entire fight. He is

1864
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: never going to not want to knock your head off.

1865
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: So it creates some danger, even if Wade has like

1866
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: two great rounds. Creates a lot of danger no matter what.

1867
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: So that'll be a fun one to watch. And by

1868
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: the way, it should be noted PFL is not just

1869
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: going to be an ESPN tonight, which is a big thing.

1870
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: It's got a three hour broadcast. They normally are get

1871
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: on ESPN two for two hours. Now they're on linear ESPN,

1872
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: the big one, and they're gonna be on for three hours.

1873
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 1: I hope not pacing doesn't suck.

1874
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, can can there?

1875
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 3: Can their cage really vacuum my rug and order room service, Luke,

1876
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, but but that's not nothing to be

1877
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 3: in that spot. Also on this preliminary card, Baba Jenkins

1878
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 3: will be a favorite there. Brendan Lockman's back is a

1879
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 3: big favorite. But also Lance Palmer versus Shaman Maris Lukes

1880
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: and the odds are very close.

1881
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: That could be an interesting one.

1882
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, striker versus grappler there as well. Shaman Marice can

1883
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: do damage if you let him. Palmer's not gonna try

1884
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: to do that. But will he be successful? Very very

1885
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: difficult fight to assess. Also, I think you may have

1886
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: said it Brendan Locknan on this card opening it up

1887
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: as well, minus six hundred and.

1888
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: He's looked good, dude, he's looked. Look he's getting better

1889
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: every fight. Man, He's coming on quick hitters time topic

1890
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: for Luke Uh. It's official now the August sixth previously

1891
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,799
Speaker 3: announced Showtime pay per view Jake Paul boxing return Madison

1892
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: Square Garden the big deal. Well, he got the opponent

1893
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 3: he wanted. Now Tommy Fury has made it official. There

1894
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 3: was a back and forth on social media, Paul putting

1895
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: out the details seemingly with the two million dollar purse,

1896
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 3: the drug testing, all the things that.

1897
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: Tommy Fury said he needed. Well they got it now

1898
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 2: Fury's gonna do it, Luke.

1899
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 3: The hold up or the thought about a hold up

1900
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 3: was that the Fury family, the extended Klan, can't travel

1901
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 3: at the moment. Obviously we know Big John Fury once

1902
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: took a man's eyeball out in.

1903
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,919
Speaker 2: A bar fight, which is a felony.

1904
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 3: That's assault, brother for sure, So he can't fly to

1905
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: the US right now. Tyson Fury heavyweight champion because of

1906
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 3: the whole Daniel Daniel Kinahan situation, not allowed to fight

1907
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,719
Speaker 3: to the US, which a lot of people are getting

1908
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: in our DM saying why don't you guys talking? What

1909
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 3: do you want us to say about it? I mean,

1910
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: like it's there, we know it. It's not a good

1911
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: look altogether. Any big fight for Tyson's probably gonna be

1912
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 3: in Europe anyway right now, so it doesn't really matter

1913
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 3: as much. But Fury said, ef it, Luke, Tommy, that

1914
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 3: is I'm taking this fight.

1915
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: It's happening, Luke.

1916
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 3: Amanda Serrano and the cole Mane now has an opponent

1917
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 3: as well, Brenda Carbahal. I've seen the odds closer than

1918
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: I thought the early odds, Luke, in terms of people's

1919
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 3: believing Tommy Fury's quote unquote the real the first boxer

1920
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: that Jake Paul is ever gonna fight. You and I

1921
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 3: both believe this is a Jake Paul set up to

1922
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: look great, because Fury has not looked great of late.

1923
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 3: Is there some fools gold in there? Is Tommy Fury

1924
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 3: been he's been playing you know, rabbit Luke.

1925
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,480
Speaker 2: What's the animal.

1926
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,959
Speaker 1: Possum possum roll?

1927
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: Is he playing possum Luke?

1928
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, I saw it. I don't even remember

1929
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: who his opponent was on the Fury versus Dillian White undercard.

1930
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: I just remember watching Tommy and being like.

1931
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: Dude, that'd be a long con. That'd be a long investment.

1932
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: It would be an amazing con. If he's been playing

1933
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: possible all the time, he comes out just blitzes Jake Paul.

1934
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say this, like, I think I think

1935
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: Fury has enough ability to win rounds. This will be

1936
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: an eight round cruiserweight contest, I believe. So I think

1937
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: he's got the ability to win rounds. Like, does he

1938
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: have the overall does he have an overall more pure

1939
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 1: boxing game he might against very hard to tell with

1940
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: two guys with with this limited experience and ability. But

1941
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: I do believe this. I do believe Jake Paul is

1942
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: firmly convinced he can beat the breaks off this guy.

1943
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: And it looks to me like Jake Paul is clearly

1944
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: a much harder hitter than Tommy Fury. Tommy Fury against

1945
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: the guy who he fought when we were there in Ohio,

1946
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: the guy who fought in Belt or forget his name,

1947
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: but you know, I was expecting him to shine in

1948
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: that one, and he didn't. It's almost like he is

1949
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 1: not making the progress that you thought he would have

1950
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: made to this point because he has what eight fights

1951
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: something like that. You know, not that's a ton of experience,

1952
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 1: but you would have thought he would from where I

1953
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: saw him at two, three, four fights where he is now,

1954
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen the progress. And again it wasn't

1955
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: like Jake Paul versus Tyring the second time was amazing.

1956
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,480
Speaker 1: That fight was not great until Jake Paul just absolutely

1957
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: destroyed him. And again you go back to it, Woodley

1958
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be a body shot because Jake

1959
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: did set it up, brings his hand down, opens it up,

1960
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: and he just gets drilled with a shot. That's good boxing,

1961
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: Like that's good boxing. You know, he's pretty good.

1962
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: For this level.

1963
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: And I think even you know, in the UK, they

1964
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 3: look at Tommy Fury as a reality star fighter, you know,

1965
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: so it's like he's got the Fury name. He shares

1966
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: a father with Tyson Fury. They have separate mothers. We've

1967
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 3: joked about it. He's so good looking, you know, it's

1968
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: clear he doesn't take after the family and many regards

1969
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 3: and also I think as a fighter, unfortunately, or at

1970
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 3: least up to this point, I mean, I just don't

1971
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 3: see anything that gives me confidence.

1972
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

1973
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 3: I haven't seen a thing that gives me. I've watched

1974
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 3: a couple of his fights. It's like he's okay, he's

1975
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: not good.

1976
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: You know.

1977
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's a big, strong kid. You'll give him that.

1978
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure he works hard, I give him that. But

1979
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: like again, like where you're supposed to be at eight

1980
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: pro fights in I just don't see a whole lot there.

1981
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm gonna go back to it.

1982
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: I think Jake Paul has more ways to win. But

1983
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: do I think he's got like the razzle dazzle on

1984
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: him in ways that like Tommy Fury has no answer

1985
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: for I'm less convinced by that. I mean, dude, think

1986
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: about it. Jake Paul could have easily moved on from

1987
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: Tommy Fury if he really felt like there were other

1988
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: great opponents he could easily defeat and get some good

1989
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: money from. I don't know that he actually views it

1990
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: that way. I think he've used this as another important

1991
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: step in his own actual boxing development. To see this

1992
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: is like a trial balloon. Could in Anderson Silva fight

1993
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: make sense? Could something else out there make sense that

1994
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: I could reasonably do? And how can I get my

1995
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: boxing to a point where those are actually in play?

1996
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Again, I firmly believe he probably will beat

1997
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Tommy Fiery, and I think he believes very sincerely that

1998
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Tommy Fiury is a level or two below him. But

1999
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: what I think this is really about is not just

2000
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: making money and everything else. It's a bit of a

2001
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: test case for like, Okay, what is actually possible among

2002
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: other guys out there who I can escalate too that

2003
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 1: would say something about my ability, whether.

2004
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 3: That's a Chavez junior who we you know, whispered about

2005
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 3: before or Silva, which I think is a really tough

2006
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 3: fight at this point.

2007
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Although the longer you wait for it. Silva's gonna be

2008
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: fifty before we know it.

2009
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, I agree largely on everything that you're

2010
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 3: categorizing Jake.

2011
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 2: Here.

2012
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 3: There's a narrative though that can develop, Like you look

2013
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 3: at this, you go, Okay, it wasn't you know, he's

2014
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: not fighting Nate, so it's not going to be maybe

2015
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: what it could have been. And you know, having Tyson

2016
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 3: Fury in your corner physically could have helped things, and

2017
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 3: that does that can't happen here either. But what about

2018
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 3: a scenario where this becomes a war, maybe an accidental war.

2019
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, Jake Paul.

2020
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 3: Gets dropped by a big shot and he's got to

2021
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: really navigate storm stormy waters only to come back and

2022
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 3: deliver a knock out himself. There is a way to grow,

2023
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 3: certainly in the entertainment factor if this ends up being

2024
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 3: the best fight of this journey so far. But I

2025
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 3: think even in the public, like that's the best way

2026
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 3: you can win people over that are skeptical or that

2027
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 3: don't like you go out there, overcome it but still

2028
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 3: deliver Luke, it's possible in this matchup.

2029
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do. I think that Jake Paul can't.

2030
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: There's no way Jake Paul loses. Like, No, I don't.

2031
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: I think there's very much a way he loses this one.

2032
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: I just don't see that as the likeliest. Again, Dude,

2033
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: Jake Paul's got a lot of like real there's a

2034
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: design in all of this, there's real, clear intentionality design,

2035
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: And I think he believes that's the next appropriate step

2036
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, money, fame, blah blah blah,

2037
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: but also I need this guy at this moment to

2038
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: see exactly where my boxing is, yeah, and what is

2039
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: reasonably possible that you're after.

2040
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 3: You're right, because the one that's probably the greatest skill

2041
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 3: that Jake has had this journey along with the marketing

2042
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 3: side of it. You know, he's been pretty savvy there too,

2043
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 3: But he's not defensively irresponsible. So we've seen things fall

2044
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 3: apart for him when he's looked winded at times against Woodley,

2045
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 3: but he's always sort of navigated those waters safely without

2046
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 3: like you know, leaving his hands down, his chin out,

2047
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: So I think that's preserved him. I do want to

2048
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 3: see him like everybody else in a real fight, meaning

2049
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 3: he's given and taken the Woodley fights had moments of that,

2050
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: but it wasn't sustained where it's a three four, five

2051
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 3: round fight getting up off the deck, fighting your way

2052
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 3: out of it. Maybe this is that one. Who knows,

2053
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 3: we'll find out. August sixth, Luke so Rano, as I

2054
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 3: mentioned in that comane, a couple more quick hitters, Kat's

2055
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 3: and Ghana, who is fighting Pam Sornson tonight, she kind

2056
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 3: of thought she already should be fighting Chris Cyborg for

2057
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 3: the featherweight title, and now they're going back and forth.

2058
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: Luke on Twitter, what did you make of this? It

2059
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 2: was do we have the the physical evidence here.

2060
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 1: We should?

2061
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 3: It was in Ghano basically saying I'll only fight Kat or,

2062
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 3: I'll only fight Chris Cyborg, excuse me with a drug test,

2063
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 3: which we've heard people say that before, but almost Luke,

2064
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: it sounded like she was criticizing the drug test system

2065
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 3: within belati Or and saying, look under this system, like

2066
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,879
Speaker 3: I don't trust that I'm gonna be fighting.

2067
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 2: A clean version of you.

2068
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 3: But also you had the champ Chris Ibor coming back

2069
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,760
Speaker 3: and saying Kat was nine and oh with wins over

2070
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 3: Misha and Nunas. Then Usada comes around to twenty fifteen,

2071
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 3: and she goes one in four cents, then she goes

2072
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 3: two and oh after leaving Usada and fighting on YouTube

2073
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 3: meaning Bellator on Friday Night there Luke, does Cyborg win

2074
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 3: this Street Justice Wednesday beef on the show or you

2075
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 3: don't care?

2076
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: Well?

2077
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: First of all, she definitely wins the Twitter back and

2078
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: forth such as that's the thing you can win, and

2079
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I definitely would. I mean, listen, dude, like, is it

2080
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: a foregone conclusions? In Gano beats Pam Sorenson, you might

2081
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: favor her to win, Okay, again, I'd take that seriously.

2082
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: It's not like Sanghana has been sitting in the world

2083
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 1: on fire in Bellatore like she she's had it's been okay,

2084
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: but like this idea, like she's you know, I do

2085
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 1: believe that if she beats Sorensen, for sure, she probably

2086
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 1: will get the title shot. Okay, So that's a fair

2087
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: thing to to sort of plan for and then you know, consider,

2088
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: But it's not like it's a foregone conclusion. She beats

2089
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Pam Sorenson again, you might think it's likely, but I

2090
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: don't know if that's possible. And even if she does,

2091
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: like I would heavily favor Cyborg to Beat to beat.

2092
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Kat. Another part too, is like, I mean,

2093
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, just MMA fans can sit there and pretend

2094
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: that they I want to fucking clean sport, Get the

2095
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: fuck out of here with this nonsense. Just it means

2096
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to me, dude, Cocher and bltmore have been

2097
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: doing commission testing, which is not in any way rigorous.

2098
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: Not that rigorous testing makes all that much of a difference,

2099
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: but probably some and fans have never cared. They don't

2100
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: do jack shit and overseas promotions and fans never care.

2101
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: It's KOBOOKI theater. It doesn't mean fuck all. I don't

2102
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: care if they did testing at all. I wouldn't care

2103
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: if they handed it out fucking d ball and giveaway

2104
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: bags at the front door. It means nothing to me

2105
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: at whatsoever. And you know, like if you wanted to

2106
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: like you, if you want like rigorous testing and that

2107
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: actually matters to an athlete, I don't have a problem

2108
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 1: with that. I have zero problem with that. Like athletes

2109
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: who don't want to compete under those conditions should have

2110
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: the option to not do that, but then don't sign

2111
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: with an organization that relies on commission testing, which is

2112
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 1: what happens here, because that Cyborg is going to be

2113
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: subject to the same rules as every other fighter in

2114
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: this space, and you signed up for it, like this

2115
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: is a thing that athletes who compete in beltor agree to. Now. Also,

2116
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong to say, hey, on top

2117
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: of that, for a championship level fight, we should do

2118
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: VADA testing. But dude, like Cyborg was under USADA's governance

2119
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: for the the time that they they overlap for her

2120
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: time there in UFC. Are you gonna tell me that

2121
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 1: her performances in beltor look radically different. They look exactly

2122
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: the same. Opponents are a little bit different. That's fine, But

2123
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: to me, it's like all of this hemming and hawing.

2124
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 1: If an opponent want if a fighter wants it, they

2125
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: obviously have the right. I support Katzanghano's right to ask

2126
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: for these kinds of things, But getting out there and

2127
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 1: being like this really matters to me, It's just so

2128
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: completely disingenuous that I cannot take it seriously for five seconds.

2129
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 2: All right, hard words from a hard man right there,

2130
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 2: for sure?

2131
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: How hard is it? Like, I just I just feel

2132
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: like I get it. The drug debate is to me,

2133
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: how many angels can we fit on the head of

2134
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: a pin.

2135
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 2: It's about the larger picture.

2136
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 3: We know that all give Zangano credit for still being

2137
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: at this level at this age. She's been through a

2138
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 3: lot personally, professionally, injury injury wise, like, she's been through

2139
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 3: a lot, and she's still here.

2140
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: But Luke, she's not the you.

2141
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 3: Know, that's not the fighter who need me shitate in

2142
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 3: the face brutally and knocked her out in a great

2143
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 3: fight like that.

2144
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 2: That fighter is not here anymore, Luke.

2145
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, so she's gonna have to be that to make

2146
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 3: this beef really matter, because that would mean that she's

2147
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 3: got a I mean, look, anything can happened, Chris. Chris

2148
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 3: Iberg's getting older too. But I agree with you.

2149
01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't find a huge path of victory

2150
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: for her if she gets to that point or not. Luke.

2151
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 3: What I do kind of care about though, is tonight Hollywood,

2152
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: Florida BKFC twenty six.

2153
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 2: Luke, I've been following the soap opera that is.

2154
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 3: Britton Hart now Britton Beltrand who she's an effing feeling.

2155
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 3: She's a BKFC star, Luke and She's gonna have a

2156
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: rematch on this card against Beck Rawlings. Rawlings won by

2157
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 3: split decision. It was Britain's debut, Luke, Joey Beltrand now

2158
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 3: and the head of that household, I cheer for them.

2159
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: Do you care about this fight? Britton Hart Beltrand brings it, Luke?

2160
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 3: This first fight was a scrap fest. Beck Rawlings still

2161
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 3: has something or I think she goes by Beck Rodriguez

2162
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 3: these days, Luke, you don't care at all?

2163
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 2: Right? Is this all me?

2164
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 1: Is all I mean? When I say I don't care,

2165
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't mean to like impune athletes who are literally

2166
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: fist fighting for a living, and to say that like

2167
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: these are people that no one should care about. That's

2168
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. But all of the limited bandwidth

2169
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: that I have BKFC just doesn't occupy any kind of

2170
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 1: meaningful space, and I have to make choices about how

2171
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 1: I apportion my time.

2172
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 3: I just I'll just say this, this women's strawweight division

2173
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 3: is it women's flyweight?

2174
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 2: Excuse me? There's a lot of like, you know, you

2175
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 2: got Rachel Ostovich, you get you had PVZ there you got.

2176
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know about Taylor Starling Luke.

2177
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 3: I mean there's like this is like a reality show.

2178
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 3: It's like it's almost real pro wrestling. Like it's so

2179
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: like like if there's a County Fair version of Jersey Shore.

2180
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 2: Luke, this is what it is, Okay, I mean it's

2181
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 2: it is what it is, Luke. All Right, but I

2182
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: kind of dig it. And the fights are ridiculous too.

2183
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: Uh listen, I'm not here's the thing. It sounds like

2184
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, no one should care about BKFC. That's

2185
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: not my argument. That's not what I'm saying at all.

2186
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: People like it. I do think there's a market for it.

2187
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: And I've said before it's not like they sign all

2188
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 1: the free agents, but they are an interesting player in

2189
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 1: the MMA free agent sweepstakes by virtue of like they

2190
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,799
Speaker 1: get a couple person people here. They got Chad Mendez,

2191
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: they got Jimmy Rivera, they got Greg Hardy, they got

2192
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: some interesting names that they played with that kind of

2193
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: shakes things up. People seem to like it. I'm just

2194
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: telling you, man, I got I gotta I gotta make

2195
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: choices about my time, all right. I don't have time

2196
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 1: to that.

2197
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 3: Look, Britt needs this win. Okay, So this is gonna

2198
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 3: be a tough phills to climb. We'll break it down

2199
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 3: on Monday in detail. In the main event, by the way,

2200
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,520
Speaker 3: Elvin Brito defends his BKFC walter Way Championship against Louis Palomino.

2201
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: That does.

2202
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: Louis Palomino is a goddamn savage. Believe that. I know

2203
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 1: that for real. Did you ever see his interview with

2204
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: Danny Segura?

2205
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 2: No, I should now it probably not that.

2206
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: I now that I asked that. I realized that was

2207
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 1: in Spanish, but it was on his personal YouTube channel

2208
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: and I saw it. Well, here's the thing, Palomino, what

2209
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: ever understood it?

2210
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2211
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, okay, fair enough. But the point I

2212
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: want to make was Palomino like Glover to Shaa. They

2213
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 1: asked me because he asked him like, how did the

2214
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: UFC never sign you? You think about people and I'm

2215
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: not saying he would have gone and won a title

2216
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: in UFC, but you think about people who are like

2217
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 1: who had big careers on the regional scene who never

2218
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: went to like a real major promotion. No, he did

2219
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: fight for world Tiers of fighting. But you know what

2220
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, uh UFC did want to sign him. He

2221
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: was here illegally, Louis pell him in. It was here illegally,

2222
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't have the kind of papers he needed

2223
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: to get that. Now, I think he's a sense resolved

2224
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: his immigration situation, which I'm happy to hear. But you know,

2225
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: his career kind of suffered a little bit because he

2226
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: didn't have the proper immigration sets. And I know everyone says, oh,

2227
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm get in line. Yeah, but America's immigration system is

2228
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,600
Speaker 1: completely fucking broken. So you know, he had to do

2229
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: what he had to do, and I understand that. It's

2230
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 1: just a shame we didn't get to see him in

2231
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: the big stage. But here he is. Dude is out

2232
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: there just handing out brain damage left and right in BCFC.

2233
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see him in a much more stable

2234
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 1: place in his career. Let's say, dude, he's.

2235
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 3: Forty one, he's still a hammer. As you mentioned from Peru.

2236
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 3: He's won all six of his BKFC I think all

2237
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 3: of them by knockout fights. He's the reigning lightweight champion

2238
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 3: for BKFC and now he's moving up to welterweight to.

2239
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 2: Fight for this title. So that's a story in itself.

2240
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 3: Also, there's an interim middleweight title about with Juli Diaz

2241
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 3: against Francisco Ricci.

2242
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 2: I know you don't care about that.

2243
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 3: Do you care about Jimmy Rivera making his bare knuckle

2244
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 3: debut here against Howard Davis at featherweight?

2245
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see how Jimmy. Jimmy's got great striking.

2246
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: He's always had a pretty good job. He's always had

2247
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, he was a good fighter, and I want

2248
01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 1: to say it was. I mean when he was competing

2249
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 1: in MMA. This is obviously not MMA. He could go

2250
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:12,520
Speaker 1: back to it, which I think he had indicated previously.

2251
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Curious to see exactly how that translates because he also

2252
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: had something of a reserved style in MMA, and BKFC

2253
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: is many things reserved eight one of them. So I

2254
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: will be curious to see how that translates. That is

2255
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: something different, Yeah, it is, It.

2256
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: Is something different. Luke hardcore fan alert.

2257
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 3: I don't promote this from the sense of like you

2258
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 3: got to work your life plans around it, but de

2259
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 3: Zone has like a four hardcores only boxing.

2260
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 2: Card on Saturday from US saw this, So here's the deal.

2261
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 3: In the main event, Jesse Bam Rodriguez, who's trained by

2262
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 3: Robert Garcia. He's only twenty two. He's a champion in

2263
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 3: the WBC at one hundred and fifteen pounds. This is

2264
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 3: you know, super flyway. This is the division that Chuckle Latito,

2265
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 3: all those guys had wars. Now he's defending his title

2266
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 3: against that guy who beat chocol Latito twice, in fact,

2267
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 3: knocked him the hell out and that srisaquet sore rung

2268
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 3: Visi Luke.

2269
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 2: This is the guy that eats rats. That's his delicacy.

2270
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,679
Speaker 3: So when he shows up to the airport after fights,

2271
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 3: they give him trays with I mean, it's ridiculous. He

2272
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 3: took like a year off recently because he had a

2273
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 3: breakup in a relationship and he was like, the heartache

2274
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: is too much.

2275
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 2: I can't go back.

2276
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: Like he's a real dude, Bro, I'm not gonna shit

2277
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 1: on him. I've been there. That shit will break you

2278
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 1: down to the ground. Man.

2279
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 3: So he actually hasn't fought elite competition in like four years.

2280
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 3: But after finishing Chuckle Latito winning twice finishing him, he

2281
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 3: then split fights against Jan Francisco a Strata and we

2282
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 3: want to see a trilogy between them.

2283
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 2: So, dude, he's that dude. He's thirty five.

2284
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 3: Now he wears Keith van Horn socks up to his neck.

2285
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 3: But Luke him against Bam Rodriguez. Dude, this is gonna

2286
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 3: be a war.

2287
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 2: For the title.

2288
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 3: At one point fifteen, chocol Latito is still around. Jan

2289
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,759
Speaker 3: Francisco Estrada is still around. Like this division's great?

2290
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 2: And how about this in the Colemane Murray John.

2291
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 3: Acmadalia of yes, the guy who has the other two

2292
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 3: else in the one hundred and twenty two pound division.

2293
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 3: He's got Ronnie Rios, who's nobody's joke in front of

2294
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 3: him on Saturday. And if he wins, Luke, it seems

2295
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 3: like him and Stephen Fulton Junior in a four belt

2296
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 3: undisputed fight is like realistic for later this year.

2297
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2298
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 3: You know, there's some network and promoter play that has

2299
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 3: to go down there, Luke. Right, here's the church, here's

2300
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 3: the steeple open. You know you know where I'm going

2301
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 3: with that. And see all the people. The people will

2302
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 3: show up for that fight. So you care about this

2303
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 3: one for MJ.

2304
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, only if they can make a akmadaliav. In

2305
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Fulton fight. Other than that, I don't care.

2306
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 3: Okay, we're supposed to get Jolyo Sazar Martinez back in

2307
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 3: a title defense. You should have cared about that he's

2308
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: off because of injury. But Jessica mccasko will also defend

2309
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 3: her all four women's welterweight world titles against Alma Ibara.

2310
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 3: So interesting, you know, like I said, hardcore's only card.

2311
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Check it out.

2312
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 3: A couple other quick nuggets, Luke, and then we'll get

2313
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 3: the hell out here with this fan bullshit. All right,

2314
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 3: UFC two seventy six, that's next weekend. International Fight Week

2315
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 3: are gonna air on ESPN and ABC.

2316
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: Is that big?

2317
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I think the early prelims will air on

2318
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: ESPN and then the sort of middle prelims will air

2319
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: on AB. Excuse me sorry, early prelims on ESPN, main

2320
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: prelims such as you can call them that on ABC,

2321
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: and then of course the event itself will air on

2322
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 1: pay per view. But that is a big deal, dude.

2323
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Can you can you believe that on ABC? They're just

2324
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 1: gonna air you know, not even UFC's best product. I

2325
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: mean that's they're good fights, but the best product obviously

2326
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: the one they're gonna sell. Shocking, shocking. I know they've

2327
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 1: done it before. They had cater and and whatever, but

2328
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: in Holloway. But I'm just saying, like, but.

2329
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: This is prime time, Like this is exactly Saturday Night Primetime,

2330
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 3: July second, Luke.

2331
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: They've reshuffled the line up a bit.

2332
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 3: It's now gonna be Jessica I mac Barber in the

2333
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 3: early prelim main event featured fight whatever you want to

2334
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 3: call it. And they put cowboys Seroni, Who's gonna fight

2335
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 3: Jim Miller a second time? We'll get to that in

2336
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 3: a second. But they put that in the main card

2337
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 3: and they pulled down what was the main card about

2338
01:43:58,840 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 3: that they pulled down?

2339
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 2: Did you see?

2340
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: I know they pushed O'Malley versus Muno's.

2341
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 2: That's it.

2342
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 3: So O'Malley versus Munio's will now be on ABC, Luke

2343
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 3: in primetime.

2344
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea at all. Not a bad idea.

2345
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: No, not a great idea as a matter, not a.

2346
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 3: Bad idea at all, you know what I'm saying, Like

2347
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 3: this shows Luke that they they want to be in

2348
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 3: the Sean Oley Sugar shawan Omalley business. Right, Like I

2349
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 3: know there's always talk is this contract gonna run out?

2350
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: Is he gonna go do whatever? No, they want to

2351
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 2: be in that business, Luke, and I think.

2352
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: He wants to be in business with them too. I

2353
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: think it's pretty mutual, and I'm glad to see it.

2354
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 1: He's getting like now, it's like, Okay, you got all

2355
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: those fights under your belt to get your you know,

2356
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: your feet under you, your your your career going. That

2357
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 1: Tchudo Veron thing didn't work out for him, But it

2358
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: feels like, what when's the Sean O'Malley push gonna happen

2359
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: for himself and by the organization right here, right right here,

2360
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 1: right now.

2361
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 3: So here's what's happening. It's almost like I talk this

2362
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: into existence. Bobby Green's out of two seventy six. He

2363
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 3: was for undisclosed reasons, he was gonna fight Jim Miller.

2364
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 3: So UFC's taking Cowboys Serni, who lost his fight a

2365
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 3: few times with lows On, and match them up together

2366
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 3: for the second time the first time, Luke, you may

2367
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 3: remember second round knockout for Cowboy in twenty fourteen.

2368
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: But here's where they're at.

2369
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 3: This would be Miller's fortieth UFC fight, it'd be the

2370
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 3: thirty eighth for Cowboy, and both are currently tied with

2371
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: Andre Arlovski for the most wins in UFC history. I

2372
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 3: know the I sort of staged it as a let's

2373
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 3: give these two legends one final bout, so the winner

2374
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 3: walks away for however long it lasts as the winningest

2375
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 3: fighter in history, and then they both go off as heroes.

2376
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen, Luke, But are you

2377
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 3: into this idea to sort of like, let's give these

2378
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 3: guys not only a huge victory lap, let's put it

2379
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 3: on the main pay per view card and the winner

2380
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 3: is the winningest guy we've ever had.

2381
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of like it. I kind of did. I

2382
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: think Jim Miller's in a good spot to win here,

2383
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's kind of cool. I mean, if you're

2384
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna do old guy fights, there's right ways and wrong

2385
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: ways to do them. This feels like more of the

2386
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 1: right way.

2387
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 3: This is almost a BMF type, right, It's kind of

2388
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 3: like it kind of has that feel.

2389
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if I go that far, but like,

2390
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 1: there's no.

2391
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 3: Fake title bell at stake, but they're fighting for the

2392
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 3: freaking records of like most wins in appearances.

2393
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 2: Like that's that's pretty badass.

2394
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,600
Speaker 1: To certain, it's definitely very cool. I agree, with you.

2395
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,799
Speaker 3: So it's like you can argue that that that record itself,

2396
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 3: which is based on longevity and a lot of things.

2397
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 3: Like some people say, well, you know, it's a little overrated.

2398
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 3: It's more just showing up. But it's not obviously, but

2399
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 3: like to have to basically say, Okay, if you want

2400
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 3: this record, beat the guy you're tied with.

2401
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:31,839
Speaker 2: That's fantastic, Luke. That's central casting.

2402
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, right least, that is very cool, somewhat somewhat poetic,

2403
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:35,480
Speaker 1: good opportunity.

2404
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

2405
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 3: Luke sources from fight hype dot Com, which has long

2406
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 3: been the mouthpiece for Floyd Mayweather. He gives them exclusive

2407
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 3: interviews and really nobody else. Floyd Mayweather versus Connor McGregor

2408
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 3: two is in discussion for a nine figure Mayweather payday.

2409
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: It's certainly big news if real.

2410
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 3: But would this mean that Danon company would get back

2411
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 3: on board for something like this, because even if they

2412
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 3: did a half of that first fight, it's a freaking blockbuster, Luke.

2413
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the first one seemed almost unicornish,

2414
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: even though it spawned a million imitators that we either

2415
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: uh promise that never delivered or got some kind of

2416
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: version of it. I golly, because Floyd would it still

2417
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: be part with Showtime? I don't know what his.

2418
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 2: I would have to I would.

2419
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 3: I would guess without knowing, it would be a two

2420
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 3: network Showtime ESPN deal.

2421
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 1: That's what I yeah, something like that. I mean, just

2422
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: do these parties want to do that again? I guess

2423
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 1: with the money that they would because it was so

2424
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 1: big to your point, and if it did half, it

2425
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: would still be enormous. I don't know though, Like I

2426
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: feel like the warm I mean, you know, when the

2427
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 1: when the news got out there yesterday. Again, it's not

2428
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 1: exactly clear if there's a whole lot of legs to it,

2429
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: but I figured there'd be a lot of chatter about it.

2430
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of chatter about it, man, Mma,

2431
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: fans seem like they're like people.

2432
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think most people assume, Okay, did Floyd and

2433
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 3: Connor's teams maybe talk about it? Sure, But there's that

2434
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 3: big elephant in the room, like if Dana White and

2435
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 3: company you are going to go back in on this, Luke,

2436
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 3: it would make sense. It makes sense for Disney ESPN. Like,

2437
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 3: it makes sense, dude, because Floyd's even older. It's five

2438
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 3: years later, right or four years.

2439
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: Whatever, Bro, you want some breaking news, Yeah, along these lines,

2440
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 1: similar to this, Katie Taylor versus Chris Cyborg is reportedly

2441
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 1: in talks to potentially take place as a boxing match

2442
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: in December. Cyborg of course an MMA fight her former

2443
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: UFC champion, but has not had a professional boxing match before.

2444
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: She did fight you Arena Bars and kickboxing and got demolished.

2445
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 1: Aurina Bars put it on her. But what do you

2446
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: make of Katie Taylor versus Chris Cyborg.

2447
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 3: It's certainly an attraction fight that almost is like old school,

2448
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 3: like it should be in Pride or something. It's not

2449
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 3: quite Jose Canseco with a bat walking up to the ring.

2450
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Believe that. I mean it's much, But I mean.

2451
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 3: It's like, who could be the most credible person to

2452
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 3: fill this slot, the slot that Chris Cyborg is forming

2453
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 3: for this, which would be which would probably do big business.

2454
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 3: It certainly is a oh crap, what does that look like?

2455
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 2: Type of fight for sure.

2456
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 3: But if somebody's gonna get that and almost earn it

2457
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,839
Speaker 3: without even having a professional boxing fight, is Chris Cyborg

2458
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 3: the closest like?

2459
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 2: Is she is she the one? Is she that unicorn?

2460
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: She probably is?

2461
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 3: Luke I don't know what that means to the idea

2462
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 3: of her being competitive or winning this fight.

2463
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 2: I really don't, you know. I mean I could see it.

2464
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie Taylor is gonna beat her and gonna beat

2465
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: her handily again. I yeah, I watched the Arena Bars

2466
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: fight happen live. I was watching it, dude. It wasn't

2467
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 1: close at all. Arena Bars crushed her. And dude, I've Cyborgs.

2468
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 1: You know, an amazing, amazing MMA fighter. It will never

2469
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: cease to amaze me how much MMA fighters will fight

2470
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 1: on something that they know is a outrageously uphill climb

2471
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: for checks that they just can't get an MMA it

2472
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: is it is. It will never cease to amaze me.

2473
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,839
Speaker 3: So certainly we can both see it being one way traffic. Potentially,

2474
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 3: maybe it's competitive, maybe it's mean who knows, probably not.

2475
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 3: But would you want this for Chris Cyborg though, Like

2476
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 3: this is this is her particle of the the rainbow?

2477
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 2: Would you want man?

2478
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 1: Dude? I'm almost of two minds of these kinds of things. Like,

2479
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: on the one hand, I'm like tired of watching MMA

2480
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: fighters take l's for cash.

2481
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like it.

2482
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 1: Sucks to see It's like you know. And I had

2483
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: a similar kind of feeling when James Tony came and

2484
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: fault Randy Guator. It was like, ah, I feel bad

2485
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: for Jams. I mean, Tony wanted the money and you know,

2486
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna make their own choices, and he was probably

2487
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: happy with it in the end.

2488
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 3: Or oh dude, if he wasn't fighting that night there,

2489
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 3: he would have been fighting off TV and like in

2490
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 3: like Detroit or something like.

2491
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 1: Dude, that's where he was, I know. But at the

2492
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: same time, it's like, dude, like, what is the And

2493
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,639
Speaker 1: I keep going back to this. Am I happy if

2494
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: this happens and Cyborg gets a check that she otherwise

2495
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: couldn't get an MMA? No question, no question. I'm happy

2496
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 1: about it. And I don't know what the answer is.

2497
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 1: So the question I'm about to ask, I don't think

2498
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: if any of us do, But what is the long

2499
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: term cost of MMA fighters who are, because of the

2500
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 1: way the industry is structured, can't get the money that

2501
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 1: they're owed Constantly I'm not gonna say debasing themselves because

2502
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 1: that's not quite right, but constantly putting themselves in positions

2503
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: to get overwhelmed and sometimes very badly lose in an

2504
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: effort to chase money that is otherwise unattainable, unattainable to them.

2505
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 1: Maybe the answer is nothing. Maybe folks just realize, well,

2506
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: mma is different. I don't know, man, I wonder, I

2507
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 1: wonder about what the long term cost of that is.

2508
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:14,720
Speaker 2: No one's going to hold that against them even getting in,

2509
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, even.

2510
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: In long term conn I really a year after year

2511
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: after year of getting viciously knocked out, badly embarrassed.

2512
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not one person getting viciously knocked out

2513
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 3: four or five years in a row in these unless

2514
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 3: somebody becomes that star level where you'd pay for it.

2515
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 3: But I think it's more of is what's the long

2516
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 3: term vibration to like the fighter pay talk and all that.

2517
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 3: That's where like how does that affect?

2518
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: You know?

2519
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 3: Because that was the question that you rightfully interrupted me

2520
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 3: with breaking news. The question was would Dana go back

2521
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 3: to this side of the street for Floyd Connor too,

2522
01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 3: just because there's so much money there it's ridiculous and

2523
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 3: not do that for Francis and a Tyson Fury thing

2524
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 3: like would he draw that line or does this mean

2525
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 3: he's opening the door back for Francis to do it

2526
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 3: and whoever gets to that level.

2527
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 1: To anyone paying attention, this is the answer to the

2528
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 1: fighter pay question. Let's just be very blunt about it.

2529
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: The fighters are not going to unionize. They're basically afraid,

2530
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 1: whether rationally or not, they're not going to do it.

2531
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: The Ali Act. I mean, I don't you know, Congress

2532
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: doesn't pass laws anymore that meaningfully improve anyone's life, So

2533
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 1: I don't know when the fuck that would ever happen.

2534
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:23,759
Speaker 1: It did have bipartisan support, but you know, the Trumps

2535
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: and the emmanuals were closely tied. Even if it had

2536
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: somehow made it to his desk, I'm certain he would

2537
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 1: have vetoed it. Again, he's a fan of the UFC

2538
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 1: like that would pay long term dividends. He might be

2539
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 1: back in office in two years. Who's to say. So

2540
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,639
Speaker 1: there's that, and then on top of you have the lawsuit,

2541
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: which is just you know, who the fuck knows what's

2542
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen, boxing and losing in fights that you're almost

2543
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: certain to get your ass kicked in. That is what

2544
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,679
Speaker 1: MMA fighters have chosen as the solution to the fighter

2545
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,960
Speaker 1: pay problem. That that clearly is what they are electing

2546
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: to do. So you're asking what it means, dud. What

2547
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: it means is it's already here. This is this is

2548
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 1: what they see as their as their release clause. This

2549
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: is what they see as their parachute to get the

2550
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:05,879
Speaker 1: money that otherwise wouldn't happen. They're not going to unionize,

2551
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: they're not going to do anything else. So what it

2552
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 1: means for that is nothing to me. It doesn't mean

2553
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: jack shit. What I'm asking is a separate question, which

2554
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,919
Speaker 1: is what does it mean to consistently watch MMA fighters

2555
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 1: get their asses kicked in fights for checks that they

2556
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 1: can't get in terms of MMA's reputation and standing and

2557
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,000
Speaker 1: otherwise versions of popularity. And you might be right, you see,

2558
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 1: your answer might be a people just forgive it, And

2559
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that because I don't know. All

2560
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm asking is for people to not be so glib

2561
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: about what the long term costs are of watching your

2562
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 1: favorite athletes go to a different sport and get constantly humiliated.

2563
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

2564
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 3: More of that, Look, it's very hard to pull off

2565
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 3: an event like that and make huge amounts of money

2566
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 3: despite all these fights that we say maybe sometimes wrong.

2567
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 3: We're like, oh, that fight would be a million and

2568
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 3: a half. Maybe we're long, maybe we're wrong. Some people

2569
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 3: think Tyson, Fury Versus and GANDUH won't do anything because

2570
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:56,759
Speaker 3: neither have been you know, overwhelming pay per view brands

2571
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 3: on their own. But the deal is, Luke, I think

2572
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 3: more than likely if MMA fighters were getting starts, that

2573
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 3: would be the end of it.

2574
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: That balloon would pop. People wouldn't be interested anymore, right,

2575
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,600
Speaker 2: and then you know, do I think people could do?

2576
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:13,680
Speaker 3: I think you could sell Floyd Connor two five years

2577
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 3: later and older Floyd. Yeah, I think you could. I

2578
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 3: think you could, Luke. You you could almost talk yourself

2579
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 3: into the idea of Connor having a better chance now

2580
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 3: than ever, you know. Or maybe Floyd looks at him

2581
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 3: as a broken sort of brand and things he can

2582
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 3: cast him out.

2583
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's interesting. We'll see if it comes alive, Luke.

2584
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 3: The transition here is that the final quick hitter was

2585
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 3: Eli Abdelazi's saying.

2586
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: That right now, are we really doing?

2587
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 2: No? It's my transition to dead wrong.

2588
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 3: He believes right now Habib, who's two hundred pounds, could

2589
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 3: fight at middleweight and stop out of Sonia for for

2590
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 3: the title of Luke, do you think he is onto something, Luke?

2591
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 1: Or is he must be? Like for ship to post

2592
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 1: because it's not like I'm even mad at Ali. Like

2593
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: have your opinion, Like you want to believe that you

2594
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: know Hobe, you can win, maybe you can believe that

2595
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: you can say that, like why why are we posting?

2596
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: Like I also believe that pears are tastier than oranges?

2597
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: Would someone liked to post this as something? It's as

2598
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: equally relevant as that. I mean, it's just I cannot

2599
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 1: believe we get the picture made the rounds or something.

2600
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,160
Speaker 3: Luckily, we have a segment unlike Ali, where we'll sit

2601
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 3: in front of the camera and take our l if

2602
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:23,720
Speaker 3: it's necessary.

2603
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 2: If you have proof, I'll straddle that fence. I'll tumble

2604
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 2: for you.

2605
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is your entry point,

2606
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 3: but you better have receipts to make sure we were

2607
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 3: dead wrong.

2608
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,320
Speaker 2: Drd roll.

2609
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 3: All right, This first one is from court Hello BC

2610
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 3: at an hour thirty one of last Friday Show, you

2611
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 3: said James Tony finished Vasili Jirov.

2612
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 2: But that is dead wrong. It is infact deed wrong.

2613
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 3: It went to the judges and they awarded Tony a controversial,

2614
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:53,879
Speaker 3: unanimous decision.

2615
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you forgot this factor.

2616
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 3: If your brain is malfunctioning due to the backlog of

2617
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 3: unrecycled gas station donuts clogging your jaundice liver.

2618
01:56:03,240 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for the show.

2619
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: Wow, Luke, that is just like the insult at the end.

2620
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:12,960
Speaker 2: He just zoroed me on the way out there. Wow,

2621
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 2: that was great. Yeah. No, Actually, in the moment I

2622
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 2: realized was dead. I was dead wrong. I was referring

2623
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 2: to the big was it a knockdown whatever? It was,

2624
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 2: that big surge that Tony had and Emmanuel Steward went crazy.

2625
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 2: It was a decision.

2626
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 3: I realized that in the moment, I didn't train wreck

2627
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 3: the show to say it I was dead wrong. I'll

2628
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 3: take that outl you got your shots in court. Okay, congratulations,

2629
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 3: Let's go over to a ghazi from London, Luke, He says, Hey,

2630
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 3: don said an hour fifty eight of episode three eleven.

2631
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 2: Whoa dude was our last episode? Episode three eleven?

2632
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 3: I don't even know, because I I on I made

2633
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 3: like two three eleven references that day.

2634
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, hey, lady, is your name Amber

2635
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 2: or is that just the color of your energy?

2636
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay?

2637
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't say that one, but that would have

2638
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 2: been decent, Luke.

2639
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying today is three fifteen, so that would

2640
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: have been three fourteen.

2641
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 2: All right, I forget it.

2642
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 3: He says that episode three eleven, Luke said this is

2643
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 3: the Uzbek flag, I believe when referring to an amc

2644
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 3: ringwalk during have you seen this shit? That was in

2645
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 3: fact the Azerbaijani flag. Disappointing from Luke, with Azerbaijan being

2646
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 3: a neighbor of his home country Armenia.

2647
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: Yes, a warring neighbor.

2648
01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 2: The Uzbek flag is blue, white and green for future reference,

2649
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 2: not the blue, red and green of isler Baijan. Love

2650
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 2: the show, though, guys.

2651
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 1: Yes, my flag knowledge is certainly lacking. I will I

2652
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: will cop to that. I'll take that l all right.

2653
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 3: This one's from Taff, he says, huge fan of the show.

2654
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 3: But during episode three twelve, Luke says that whales used

2655
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 3: to be called kimru sim simru and claimed it was

2656
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 3: their old name. I am Welsh and can confirm that

2657
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 3: Simru is simply the Welsh tradition for the word whales

2658
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 3: and is stalled. Referred is is something referred to, often

2659
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 3: referred to as Simru by all Welsh speakers. I think

2660
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 3: that's what he's saying. Look, it's it's garbage. It's Gaelic here,

2661
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 3: that is an old name. The whale's name has never

2662
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 3: been changed. Huge fan of the show. Dude, I hate

2663
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 3: this segment sometimes.

2664
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, see that one to me is a little pedantic.

2665
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: It's like I understand what he's saying, but.

2666
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, just whatever, Okay if they're saying it's

2667
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 3: the same thing and you're dead wrong. So Luke take

2668
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 3: the l okay, I guess sit on it. This is

2669
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 3: from Todor t O d O R total to door. Hey, donks,

2670
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 3: I guess half the UK will be in your inbox tonight.

2671
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 3: To correct Luke's claim at one thirty three of Wednesday

2672
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 3: show that Sean Connery as.

2673
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: Well just one I did fuck up.

2674
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes he's actually Scottish. Love the show and please release that.

2675
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought. I knew he wasn't British.

2676
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 1: I knew that, but yeah, fuck that up.

2677
01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 2: Did you hear Todor sign off? He says, please release

2678
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 2: that High Court episode already. Dude, I say that in

2679
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 2: every meeting.

2680
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why you guys want to punt when

2681
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 1: you could actually wait and get a lot of traffic

2682
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: from it, rather than publishing it and getting probably a

2683
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 1: fraction of the views. Like what I don't even.

2684
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 3: Remember, like what stance we took or what jokes I made,

2685
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 3: Like I actually want to see it myself.

2686
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 2: It was so long ago in my mind.

2687
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 1: Dude, all right, I don't know why that matters.

2688
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 2: It's performance art, Luke. People want it, they know it's there.

2689
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 1: The more do more art, all right, This.

2690
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: One's from Chandler. Hello from North Idaho. Donks. I'm twenty one.

2691
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 3: I've been a future fan of the show for years,

2692
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 3: but I'm here to slide into the DMS for a

2693
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 3: dead wrong. On Friday's episode three twelve, at thirty two fifteen,

2694
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 3: the BBC with the BD stated that Kevin Hollinds win

2695
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 3: over Buckley came immediately after Buckley's spectacular knockout of Kasanga,

2696
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,880
Speaker 3: and I this is dead wrong. Holland's win over Buckley

2697
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 3: actually came the fight before the Buckley knockout over Impah.

2698
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 2: Maybe BC should stop drinking his ag one like a

2699
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 2: bozo and mix it like any.

2700
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 3: Sane human would to better support that aging that is

2701
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 3: clearly resulting in memory loss.

2702
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 2: Steve Frosty, it's Chandler. Wow, I just yep.

2703
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 3: Remember Eric Moreles in the third Pacio Fi when he

2704
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,200
Speaker 3: got knocked down. He was just like nope, yeah, you

2705
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 3: got me. You got me there, Luke, what do I.

2706
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 1: Say, Lou Here's how I know we're both getting old

2707
02:00:06,600 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 1: it certainly in my case there are things I used

2708
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: to know, like the back of my hand, like it

2709
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:13,200
Speaker 1: was just I had a view of certain things like

2710
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 1: there's no way I'll ever forget this, and now task

2711
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 1: to like recite it or whatever the details of it.

2712
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's all hazy. That's how you know you're

2713
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: getting old as fuck.

2714
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, look this is from somebody named Kai Ky

2715
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 3: and they wrote, well, BC, once again make a ky

2716
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 3: jelly joke.

2717
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 2: Probably will.

2718
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,000
Speaker 1: That was the first thing that came to mind when

2719
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:34,839
Speaker 1: you said that.

2720
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 2: This is kai from Ontario.

2721
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,800
Speaker 3: On Wednesday's episode, at fifteen forty two, while discussing the

2722
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 3: potential title shot for the winner of cater Emmett, Luke

2723
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 3: states quote, they would be you know, in the on

2724
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 3: deck circle or something like that. They wouldn't be up

2725
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 3: next to bat, referring to the UFC's likely preference to

2726
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 3: give this title shot to Yaeir if he beats Ortega. Well, Luke,

2727
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 3: kind sir, the term on deck actually means next up

2728
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 3: at a while the proper term in this context would

2729
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 3: have been in the hole the weather where you are

2730
02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 3: broadcast baseball?

2731
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 1: Eat a dick baseball if you're a baseball fan, fuck off,

2732
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: drop dead. You know.

2733
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 3: I often when I look, when I go for the

2734
02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 3: high crotch and I run the pipe, I all often

2735
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,560
Speaker 3: do it in the hole where this guy's mentioning, look,

2736
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,320
Speaker 3: The term in the hole refers the player next in

2737
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 3: line to bat following the on deck batter, BC, how

2738
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 3: is the weather where you were broadcasting from? Did you

2739
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 3: get caught in the rain for an extended period of

2740
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 3: time this morning?

2741
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:31,840
Speaker 2: You look washed as fuck?

2742
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: Bro Kiers are just assassinating.

2743
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if the shoe fits, what am I

2744
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:42,640
Speaker 2: gonna do about it? You know?

2745
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 3: And I do have gross toes under that shoe because

2746
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 3: they tell the story of my life. Phil McKagan coming

2747
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 3: in hot, Luke, Uh wow, Luke. Breaking news from the

2748
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 3: University of Colorado at Buffalo. Phil mccagan has been named

2749
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 3: assistant head football coach in year one.

2750
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 1: Here, Luke so happy for him, shouts shouts, dude, congratulations,

2751
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 1: what a great guy.

2752
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 3: We love you, brother, Well done, well done. Okay, we

2753
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 3: love that guy. All right, let's finish off with uh hey, guys.

2754
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 3: During Monday's resume review, Brian Campbell's shit out of his

2755
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 3: mouth once again. He keeps on claiming that Max Holloway's

2756
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 3: odd interview with Bisping is what got him pulled out

2757
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 3: of the short notice fight with Habib right behind me

2758
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 3: here at two twenty three.

2759
02:02:23,760 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 2: You're dead wrong, you goof.

2760
02:02:25,120 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 3: Max got pulled from fighting Habib because Nysak said the

2761
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:31,840
Speaker 3: weight cut was too dangerous. The interview with Bisping got

2762
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:34,600
Speaker 3: Max pulled from his original about International Fight Week against

2763
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 3: Artega that was supposed to take place in July of

2764
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen.

2765
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 2: You've been dead wronged on this before. How do you

2766
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 2: keep getting it wrong? Wake the fuck up? Wow? Yeah, bro,

2767
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 2: they're right, dude, I did f that up in real time.

2768
02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 2: That was a rough year. So to see Max end

2769
02:02:52,280 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 2: that year by doing what he did to Ortega, it

2770
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 2: was like, damn, this guy's a superhero. This is Randy

2771
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 2: Cotur from Hawaii.

2772
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: Luke right, indeed, thank you.

2773
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 3: We close quickly with the fan subs that we never hit.

2774
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 3: Here Luke, hopefully this gives us a bang on the

2775
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 3: way out. This one's from Anthony high MK family. It's

2776
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:12,160
Speaker 3: Anthony from Chicago, emailing the boys for my third fan submission.

2777
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 3: You may not remember, but my second was last year

2778
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 3: when my girlfriend V took me to her home country

2779
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,240
Speaker 3: of Ecuador. Back then, I made her a promise that

2780
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 3: I would propose once MK hit one hundred thousand subscribers. Well,

2781
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 3: I've made good on that promise. This past Saturday the eighteenth,

2782
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 3: I got down on one knee and I asked V

2783
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 3: to be my wife. I rented a private sailboat and

2784
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 3: proposed on Lake Michigan with the Chicago skyline in the background.

2785
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 3: To add a cherry on top, I made sure the

2786
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 3: orchids of Combat were with us on our special day.

2787
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,520
Speaker 3: As our family continues to grow, we will sure to

2788
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 3: bring MK along for the ride.

2789
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 2: It's not a good parenting move. Thank you for everything

2790
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 2: you do. PS see you boys at IFW.

2791
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 3: We are taking a family vacation to Vegas and we'll

2792
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 3: be at the Friday Live show. Take good care. It's

2793
02:03:57,040 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 3: Anthony Luke. That's some wholesome shit, right, there.

2794
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:02,320
Speaker 1: That is wholesome. You don't think he did the captain stabbing,

2795
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:03,000
Speaker 1: bitten and chuckter.

2796
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, he wore our shirt to his engagement moment.

2797
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 2: That's incredible.

2798
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm making a stupid joke about nineties pornography, but that

2799
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: is truly a wonderful moment. And by the way, he

2800
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: went all out for the proposal. That is runting a boat,

2801
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 1: I have learned is not cheap. It's not like running

2802
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 1: an uber.

2803
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 3: Congratulations Anthony and v really major congratulations.

2804
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 2: Great and great. You know story continuation in this, in

2805
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 2: this narrative that you're painting. I enjoyed that.

2806
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 1: All right.

2807
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 2: This one's from Danny. Good morning fellows. I'm a day wanner.

2808
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:40,600
Speaker 3: He's here's a comboat, Donk, DM and fan sub all

2809
02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 3: in one to save some time. Me and the wife

2810
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 3: are expecting our second child in January, and she gave

2811
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 3: me the gift of my life with my first UFC

2812
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:51,320
Speaker 3: Live event on Father's Day. We met more MK donks

2813
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,160
Speaker 3: while we were there, and even sat behind a guy

2814
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 3: wearing a Gwar T shirt. BC doesn't know nothing about

2815
02:04:57,200 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 3: that guar on friend. Yeah, dude, they got that mouth.

2816
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 3: And then the guy comes through them. I know a

2817
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 3: little bit about QUA. On Friday show, LT and AB

2818
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 3: spoke about how UFC champs don't have real leverage and that,

2819
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 3: for example, fans wouldn't be too mad if all Joe

2820
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 3: got al Joe Sorry got stripped, and Dela Seawan Yon

2821
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 3: fought for the vacant belt. Are there any current UFC

2822
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 3: champs where that isn't the case where the outcry of

2823
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 3: the fans would be larger than the want of a

2824
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 3: fight between the next two guys in line. For example,

2825
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 3: Francis gets stripped, Jones and Stepe fight for the vacant title.

2826
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 1: MK all day, there's virtually no champ I would say

2827
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 1: that's that that would be true for are.

2828
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 3: You okay with Danny, Like, like, first of all, congratulations

2829
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:40,560
Speaker 3: on the on the bun in the oven, thank you

2830
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 3: for you know, going and representing MK in Happy Father's Day,

2831
02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,600
Speaker 3: But then using this fan sub moment to ask Luke

2832
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 3: an unpaid question like in your chat where you have

2833
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 3: to pay like ten bucks to get your that's I mean,

2834
02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 3: that's a great scam.

2835
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:55,440
Speaker 2: Look, I love it. That's a great scam. But are

2836
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:56,080
Speaker 2: you okay with that?

2837
02:05:57,120 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 1: With your stupid assessment of what I do on my

2838
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 1: private YouTube. I'll know I'm not okay with that.

2839
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 3: Take it to OnlyFans. If you really wanted to take off, Luke,

2840
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 3: but you're gonna have to take off, I.

2841
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 1: Will say I took my pregnant wife to a dying

2842
02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 1: Fetus show, so I can hardly talk.

2843
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, all right, Jesse g is here?

2844
02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:15,800
Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on? Luke in BC making it look easy?

2845
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 3: I was killing some time at my local Big Lots

2846
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 3: store in the Clarence DVD bin like a true degenerate.

2847
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 1: Come on this gem, What the fuck were you doing

2848
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: outside smoking meth in the parking lot?

2849
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:31,480
Speaker 3: Supreme Champion with UFC stars Stefan Bonner, Sean Shirk, Gilbert

2850
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 3: Melendez and more, and it was only seventy five cents.

2851
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 3: Love the show, guys, keep it up, dude.

2852
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:38,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you there was a period there, like

2853
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 1: post UFC one hundred, where every MMA fighter was making

2854
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: B not even B movies like D movies straight to

2855
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 1: DVD shitholes and all of them are like Fight to

2856
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 1: Live or you.

2857
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:57,080
Speaker 3: Know, dude, dude, WW was doing so many of those

2858
02:06:57,080 --> 02:06:59,480
Speaker 3: they built their own movie studio to put them out.

2859
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 3: They do those with every wrestler it's it's there's a

2860
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 3: backlog that's ridiculous.

2861
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:04,800
Speaker 2: And they don't all suck, Luke.

2862
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 3: They're all like like, if it's not if it's not

2863
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 3: Randy Orton, it would have been Billy Blanks in that spot, right.

2864
02:07:09,480 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: No, complete ass, all right, all right?

2865
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 3: I would watch that movie by the way with you

2866
02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 3: and do an MK watch you know, homework reaction, Luke.

2867
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 2: I would do that, would you?

2868
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 1: You know what we should do like a mystery science

2869
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 1: theater thing where we pick like, hey, remember that time

2870
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 1: fucking you know, uh, I don't know. Fartzach Mcsniffer was

2871
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 1: with the former UFC middleweight was in a movie and

2872
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 1: it's called you know, like Caged Innocence or some dumb shit,

2873
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 1: and then we have to watch it. Yeah, I do that.

2874
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, how many how deep down the fight or roster?

2875
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 2: Would you consider Dakota Cochran classics.

2876
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: That's a different kind of program.

2877
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep it going here, Luke. Don't indeed, I'm

2878
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 2: just the messenger of the humor. Luke, don't, I mean,

2879
02:07:57,080 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 2: don't attack the you know what you're doing?

2880
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, dude, Saoul is a regular here the wife

2881
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:05,160
Speaker 3: and I went to New York City for the first

2882
02:08:05,200 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 3: time this weekend. The fight was canceled, and had the choice,

2883
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry the flight was canceled. Had the choice of

2884
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:13,360
Speaker 3: to either road trip it from Kentucky for twelve hours

2885
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:15,120
Speaker 3: or lose a bunch of money on a hotel room

2886
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,520
Speaker 3: that was non refundable. We went though, had a great

2887
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:20,920
Speaker 3: time it expensive food, and saw some stuff and even

2888
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 3: bought some weed. But I was missing my weekly art

2889
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 3: so I filled the void with a trip to the

2890
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 3: Modern Museum of Art and the following day the Wax Museum.

2891
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 2: Here are some of the stuff. I think you'd all

2892
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 2: like a pocasion.

2893
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 1: What did you call the museum?

2894
02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 2: Uh? He said it was the Museum.

2895
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 1: Of Modern Art, And yeah, I thought the first time.

2896
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:41,480
Speaker 1: But yes, the MoMA, I think.

2897
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 2: And the following day the Wax. I've never been to either,

2898
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 2: but I should. I should go. Luke.

2899
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,520
Speaker 1: I went to Madam Tussode's one time. I don't know

2900
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:51,560
Speaker 1: how they're in business. It's the fucking worst experience ever.

2901
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 3: All right, Well, look he's posing next to Arnold Schwarzenegger

2902
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,200
Speaker 3: there in the Wax Museum. I mean into that for Saoul,

2903
02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 3: He's like a regular around these fans.

2904
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 1: I do love Saoul and I appreciate him arding it up.

2905
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 1: But Madame twosodes, I'm not sure that's exactly where he went.

2906
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 1: But you know that's sort of the famous Hey look

2907
02:09:08,080 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 1: at these, hey, look at these wax figures that that

2908
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 1: bear vague resemblance to famous people. But when when I

2909
02:09:15,120 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 1: say vague, what they more look like is what, you know,

2910
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 1: a fever dream of some kind of cyborg race of uh,

2911
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, overlords? Would I mean it's it's it's

2912
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:29,760
Speaker 1: not in any way a pleasant experience, and they don't

2913
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 1: really look like the people they say it looks like.

2914
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: And even if they did, it's like.

2915
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 2: People have their fun at the damn wax music.

2916
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:37,560
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, here's a wax museum and it looks like,

2917
02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, make up somebody up Joe Biden looks

2918
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 1: say Joe, Okay, here I'm next to a wax statue

2919
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:43,960
Speaker 1: that looks like Joe Biden. Why do I give a fuck?

2920
02:09:44,480 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 1: What does what does that mean?

2921
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 3: I would argue the real Joe Biden is kind of

2922
02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 3: a wax statue.

2923
02:09:50,440 --> 02:09:53,600
Speaker 1: But I would say, would the would the Madame twosodes

2924
02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 1: Joe Biden also fall off a bike. I don't know.

2925
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

2926
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:59,880
Speaker 3: This is from Hurricane aug. The attached meme was in

2927
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 3: inspired by the bits and pieces of Incanto I was

2928
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 3: able to catch over the shoulder of the lady watching

2929
02:10:04,960 --> 02:10:07,560
Speaker 3: out my flight this past weekend. It depicts BC in

2930
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 3: his very own BBL. Only for him, it stands for

2931
02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 3: Big Bicep Latina. I wanted to include an alternate version

2932
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:17,000
Speaker 3: with Abuela and the donk on your staff with the

2933
02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:17,839
Speaker 3: granny fetish.

2934
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 2: That's Filthy Phil dude.

2935
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 3: So anyone who remembers that creep's name can feel free

2936
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 3: to steal my idea anyway. I hope you all get

2937
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 3: a good kick out of my art and remember to

2938
02:10:28,120 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 3: stay frosty. Look, they are talking about Filthy Phil. We

2939
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:32,680
Speaker 3: met his roommate the other day randomly, and I was like,

2940
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 3: way too into it, Luke.

2941
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, you live with Phil.

2942
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Phil is I don't want to get fired

2943
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:43,120
Speaker 1: by hr, but he is alarming, I'll put it that way.

2944
02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:48,040
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite downloadable characters in the Greater

2945
02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,040
Speaker 3: MK doc arc. I'm trying to get him fired.

2946
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 1: Michelle is going on fucking two and a half hours.

2947
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 1: Can we wrap this up?

2948
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 2: So good? Though? Right now?

2949
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 1: Right?

2950
02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:55,960
Speaker 2: It's sort of like you know, I should know.

2951
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 1: It's so long. We did like fifty minutes the PFL

2952
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:01,160
Speaker 1: what four?

2953
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 2: All right? You want to just end it here? We'll

2954
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 2: do these. We'll add these to next Wednesdays, Luke.

2955
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:07,760
Speaker 1: All right, no, no, we can finish it off, all.

2956
02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:10,560
Speaker 3: Right, Adam says, Hey Dongs after Luke's early live chat

2957
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 3: this week, it had me cracking up at the mic issues,

2958
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 3: so I had to drop a few memes first up.

2959
02:11:15,960 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 3: His fellow former marine, Frank Castle aka the Punisher, Yes,

2960
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:22,280
Speaker 3: embodies Luke's energy as he repeats for us to wait

2961
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 3: and hold on as he clicks around his computer like

2962
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 3: my four year old when he sneaks.

2963
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 2: Into my arm.

2964
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 1: These assholes think that my problems are because I'm fucking

2965
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:32,200
Speaker 1: completely computer alliterate. The problem is because I have gear

2966
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:35,440
Speaker 1: that is a little too advanced. But what are you

2967
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna do with.

2968
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 2: The you were putting out like hostage video updates? I

2969
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:40,120
Speaker 2: enjoyed those. Look those are good?

2970
02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:43,120
Speaker 1: All right? Next time you don't like my success, you

2971
02:11:43,240 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 1: cheer for my failure, which I find I'm not.

2972
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 2: Like your family. Come on, Luke, I'm your real family. Okay,

2973
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 2: thank you.

2974
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 3: Next, after dropping some of the casual listeners, we have

2975
02:11:52,360 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 3: a live look at all the p ones that hung

2976
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 3: around and finally got dcent audio.

2977
02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:57,760
Speaker 2: Keep your head up, Luke.

2978
02:11:58,080 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 3: You guys still have better av than Ariel and DC

2979
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 3: did in their entire run. And they were bankrolled by

2980
02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 3: the House of Mouse.

2981
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 2: Wow. That's Adam talking right here, not BC. Wow. Luke, Wow?

2982
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 1: Was that true? Did they have tech issues?

2983
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 2: I I don't know. I wasn't a big fan of

2984
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 2: that show. I don't know. Just just kidding.

2985
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I was asking in a nice way.

2986
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 3: But okay, Brennan is here with the YO wanna fans

2987
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:23,840
Speaker 3: of Let's see if this gets us in trouble, Luke.

2988
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you will. He will, all right, Okay, look,

2989
02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:30,520
Speaker 2: you know.

2990
02:12:30,680 --> 02:12:32,880
Speaker 1: Dude, I want to point out. I want to point

2991
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 1: out by the way you post pictures on your like,

2992
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 1: your Twitter, like, your your your your head header image,

2993
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 1: and then your thing of everyone you've ever worked with

2994
02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 1: except me, you have like Barry Tompkins, Rushad Polymelanaji. Luke

2995
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 1: is nowhere to be found in any of those ships.

2996
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

2997
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 3: One day, though, I'll surprise you, Luke, Okay, it'd be

2998
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:56,800
Speaker 3: a big moment, be a big day.

2999
02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'll just put a picture of you.

3000
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 1: I've never seen you so happy to not be pictured

3001
02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:03,120
Speaker 1: with me. It's like, Wow, this fucking guy.

3002
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 2: He spent a lot of time with you.

3003
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: Luke.

3004
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:08,400
Speaker 2: We got enough love back and forth. That's fair at

3005
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 2: Ben Ballard, TX, he says Burton Ernie, the MK crew

3006
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 2: and the MK crew. When I say I'm going to

3007
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 2: catch up on my shows while on the plane, I

3008
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,400
Speaker 2: meet it a little differently than most. Here's me catching

3009
02:13:19,480 --> 02:13:22,920
Speaker 2: up on MK while on the way to altitude for

3010
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:25,160
Speaker 2: jump number two hundred and fourteen.

3011
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 1: Holy.

3012
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:29,400
Speaker 2: This weekend I earned a sea license in skydiving, and

3013
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 2: last weekend, after thirteen long years, my BJJ black belt.

3014
02:13:33,640 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 3: Cheers some Dallas and keep up the good work. It's

3015
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:40,400
Speaker 3: Ben Ballard. Wow, look at that American, Luke, amazing bough.

3016
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 1: Where you going to get more injuries from jiu jitsu

3017
02:13:43,400 --> 02:13:45,280
Speaker 1: after all those years it took to get the black belt?

3018
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:47,360
Speaker 1: Or falling out of a plane when the parachute doesn't open,

3019
02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: it's probably neck and neck.

3020
02:13:49,480 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to this guy. Look, I still want a skydive.

3021
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 2: Would you do it with me?

3022
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:55,120
Speaker 1: If yes, I would. So here's the thing. I've actually

3023
02:13:55,160 --> 02:13:57,240
Speaker 1: never I've done a lot. I've jumped, I've jumped out

3024
02:13:57,280 --> 02:13:59,400
Speaker 1: of a helicopter before. I've done that. I fast roped.

3025
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:03,960
Speaker 1: I've never done skydiving. I have never done it. I

3026
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:04,600
Speaker 1: would do that.

3027
02:14:04,720 --> 02:14:06,720
Speaker 2: Yes, let's get Showtime to pay for it.

3028
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:09,120
Speaker 1: Then I'm yes, if Showtime pays for it, we'll do it.

3029
02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, wait, but you have to have a tandem,

3030
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:13,640
Speaker 3: so it's like a large guy with his arms were

3031
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:14,240
Speaker 3: on your waist.

3032
02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Right. What if they put you and me back to

3033
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:18,720
Speaker 1: but just fucking the whole way down?

3034
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,400
Speaker 3: I want to Yeah, okay, I'll stop there. We would

3035
02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:24,080
Speaker 3: get fired if I kept that going. All right, This

3036
02:14:24,120 --> 02:14:26,800
Speaker 3: is from Danger Mouse High BC. It's Danger Mouse again,

3037
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:29,800
Speaker 3: starting with just starting with you just being you.

3038
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, BC just loves Joe. I think what they're joking

3039
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:37,280
Speaker 1: is how long you take to do this ship? Oh no, no,

3040
02:14:37,120 --> 02:14:39,240
Speaker 1: you're saying you're faster, But this isn't more efficient. This

3041
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:40,120
Speaker 1: is much slower.

3042
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:43,160
Speaker 2: Uh. It's just a distraction, though, says Danger Mouse.

3043
02:14:43,160 --> 02:14:45,040
Speaker 3: I have something special for you this week and meme

3044
02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:47,680
Speaker 3: in two parts, almost six months in the making, from

3045
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:51,600
Speaker 3: original template to today's submission. This meme needed a story,

3046
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:53,080
Speaker 3: but it would have been too long for you to

3047
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:55,920
Speaker 3: read out. However, thanks to the great guys at Castle Labs,

3048
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:58,400
Speaker 3: I was able to make that story into something special,

3049
02:14:58,640 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 3: So a huge shout out to them. I'm giving you

3050
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 3: fair warning though, this is going to be some amazing

3051
02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:05,440
Speaker 3: foreplay followed by a potentially disappointing climax.

3052
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:07,600
Speaker 2: Okay, production team, roll.

3053
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:13,440
Speaker 1: It, and they're rolling it episode CCLXXIVY. I don't know

3054
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 1: enough there to do that.

3055
02:15:14,360 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 2: No sound here, they should have the Star Wars music.

3056
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:18,680
Speaker 1: But Luke, it's a dark time in the MMA media.

3057
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:22,680
Speaker 1: The revelation breaks that Dana White is a Sith lord

3058
02:15:23,120 --> 02:15:25,920
Speaker 1: bent on taking over the whole world. The horror is

3059
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:28,760
Speaker 1: only increased by the terrible news that the fans of

3060
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:32,880
Speaker 1: Morning Combat have fallen under his sinister spell. All right,

3061
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:37,200
Speaker 1: with no other choice available to them, our heroes, the

3062
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:41,080
Speaker 1: Jedi Luke Delta A Thomas and his heroic gas station

3063
02:15:41,280 --> 02:15:46,440
Speaker 1: food smuggler companion Brian Black Liver Campbell, have fought the

3064
02:15:46,480 --> 02:15:52,280
Speaker 1: final battle. Here we go, emerging victorious. They must be

3065
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:56,400
Speaker 1: sure that none of the fallen are pretending to be dead.

3066
02:15:56,480 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, where is this going? Okay? Can you fast

3067
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 1: forward this part? Please?

3068
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:02,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

3069
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 1: And I mean this show is interminable, all right? Can

3070
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:11,440
Speaker 1: you blow it up? Can you blow it up? How

3071
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:13,640
Speaker 1: do we know if they're actually dead or just pretending

3072
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:16,160
Speaker 1: to be dead? I watched Volk versus Max forty nine times?

3073
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:17,280
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha ha.

3074
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 2: Are you they have you? Uh yeah in that.

3075
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:27,120
Speaker 1: Last stabbing one of those guys, which I take, Yeah, yeah.

3076
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:29,680
Speaker 2: You're stabbing him? All right, Luke, you know what I'm saying? Wow?

3077
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:33,520
Speaker 2: All right, more like tossing his galactic salad. Luke, Right,

3078
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on right over there? Okay? You

3079
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:38,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean? It's let's keep it going here.

3080
02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:41,880
Speaker 3: Thank you Danger Mouse, thank you our final fans of,

3081
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:43,600
Speaker 3: and then we can finally end this epic.

3082
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:45,960
Speaker 2: This is at least a top fifty show all time, Luke,

3083
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:46,880
Speaker 2: babe hmm.

3084
02:16:48,520 --> 02:16:51,600
Speaker 3: Sean says, this one is recorded with the awesome chef

3085
02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:55,199
Speaker 3: at my local bar. His wife drops some philosophy regarding

3086
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 3: Brian's art and makes it clear that Japan is ready

3087
02:16:57,800 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 3: to welcome the Donk Show anytime.

3088
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 2: You're a ready? Wow? Can we restart this and blow

3089
02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:04,080
Speaker 2: it up? I gotta see this. I gotta receive. I

3090
02:17:04,120 --> 02:17:12,040
Speaker 2: gotta see this live. Did you see the risen Joe.

3091
02:17:12,160 --> 02:17:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really hope that I have not seen this

3092
02:17:14,400 --> 02:17:17,560
Speaker 1: to this point. I am desperately hoping this is not racist.

3093
02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 2: That's occur with ship. Yeah, this is this is this

3094
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:30,760
Speaker 2: little dicey Look, this.

3095
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:34,279
Speaker 1: Is fair satire, but this is uncomfortably close to racism

3096
02:17:34,320 --> 02:17:40,879
Speaker 1: for me. Okay, we've got the idea. We've got the

3097
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:43,720
Speaker 1: idea here. Thank you for that submission. Good to go,

3098
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 1: appreciate it. On to the next, No need to go

3099
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,440
Speaker 1: further point. Take in, we don't rise and coverage very

3100
02:17:52,440 --> 02:17:52,959
Speaker 1: well here.

3101
02:17:52,959 --> 02:17:57,200
Speaker 2: Fine, this point, we could show that circus forgetting eaten

3102
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:59,200
Speaker 2: by the snake right at this point, right, just show

3103
02:17:59,240 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 2: it already.

3104
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just go out in the blaze of glory.

3105
02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:03,800
Speaker 1: Let's just show pornography. Fuck it, let's just have it.

3106
02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:07,200
Speaker 3: Hey, Luke, I did want to shout out Abnor Marris

3107
02:18:07,240 --> 02:18:10,040
Speaker 3: Showtime Championship Boxing. He hasn't fought in four and a

3108
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:12,360
Speaker 3: half years. He had the eye injury. He almost fought

3109
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:14,720
Speaker 3: Tank Davis and a fell apart. He's back on the

3110
02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:18,400
Speaker 3: Andy Ruiz pay per view undercart in September against a

3111
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:20,000
Speaker 3: live body in Moist's floraes.

3112
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 2: Luke, it's been a long time coming, you know.

3113
02:18:22,120 --> 02:18:25,520
Speaker 1: I hope Abner does well. He had a great career

3114
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:27,520
Speaker 1: for a long time, and this show has gone on

3115
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:28,400
Speaker 1: far too long.

3116
02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:31,519
Speaker 2: You like my Abnor Marris bandanal.

3117
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:33,360
Speaker 1: Luke, Dude, can you? I mean, dude, We're at two

3118
02:18:33,400 --> 02:18:37,959
Speaker 1: hours and twenty minutes of commercial free shit. Can we please,

3119
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:40,000
Speaker 1: for the love of God call it a day?

3120
02:18:41,680 --> 02:18:44,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's put it. Let's put an end to this, Luke.

3121
02:18:44,800 --> 02:18:47,440
Speaker 2: For our great staff, gaff Corey all.

3122
02:18:47,440 --> 02:18:49,520
Speaker 1: This is this what you wore on January sixth.

3123
02:18:51,120 --> 02:18:53,360
Speaker 3: This is my tribute to Mexican boxing and Leo Santa

3124
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:55,920
Speaker 3: Cruz Abnor Marris. They had two of the greatest battles

3125
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:58,560
Speaker 3: of the modern era. Here, Luke, okay, for my great

3126
02:18:58,600 --> 02:19:02,880
Speaker 3: staff and team, For lou the Vaporator Thomas, remember take

3127
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:06,000
Speaker 3: care of this, okay, Stay happy, stay healthy, enjoy the weekend,

3128
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:10,560
Speaker 3: enjoy the fights, and remember also may all your hoes

3129
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:13,080
Speaker 3: no way, forget it, They'll never be loyal.

3130
02:19:13,160 --> 02:19:17,640
Speaker 2: We out, Oh, Luke Thomas too. Thanks Luke.

3131
02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 1: Thanks