WEBVTT - When They Come For You 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:03.640 Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak, And. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.200 This is Poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:08.360 obsessive freds. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.520 Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell, 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.840 This is our naked desire for free products. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:19.720 This is poog. Today's topics looselie speaking, velvet slipper, black, honey. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:20.640 Home sona. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.680 By the way, we're back, We're back, We're back. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.520 And by the way, I went live from the Emmys. Okay, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.800 that was a gift. I went live with the Hags 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.080 from the Red Carpetlah. I will say, should that ever 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.600 happen again a rerun situation, we would just I was 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.000 thinking about, we just go live on Instagram together. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.560 We just do live for however long we can manage. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.040 You mean, as a as an apology for. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.960 Essentially as a replacement. Yeah, like they get twenty minutes live. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.400 By the way, I mean, everything's fine. I can only 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.560 imagine when people worried. You know, everything's fine. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.680 Yeah, I mean, well, it's also important people don't realize 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.440 that technically Poog is seasonal. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.240 There are seasons. This is like a TV show. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.400 It's interesting and ultimately they're going to have to realize that. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.280 Next season is not guaranteed. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:14.160 You know. 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:14.520 Wow. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.319 I love when you threaten the end. It's important because 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.000 this isn't no, no, nothing's guaranteed. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:25.319 It's an odd thing for particularly, I mean like talk 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:29.160 about not just scarcity, but like as an artist, you know, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.520 if it's just guaranteed, like I don't know, like like yeah, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.760 I know, we talk about it like it's just life. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.000 But I love to just threatening how could end at 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:38.399 any time? 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:38.720 I do. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.640 I do let to threaten it, but it literally could sell. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.360 Congrats on what you get, and just. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.120 So everyone knows. I think this does add an element 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.520 of suspense. I do get text from Jack cons sometimes 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:53.040 when she says we're quitting or she's like you've been 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:54.520 like you're like a couple. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.320 Of times it's been like like let's end it, like 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:56.800 it's over. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.840 We end it, like you know, it can it can 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.920 still exist like another forms like you know, okay, maybe 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:06.360 we tour you know a year, yeah yeah, yeah, or 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:07.000 something like that. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.480 No, it's not I need everyone to know it's not 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.920 going anywhere and we're going to be bigger and better 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:12.600 and brighter. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:14.480 Sure. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.520 Well no, but that's what I'm trying to say is 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.880 that I think ultimately we need to be able to 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.640 promise seasonally, okay, because then at the end of the season, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.480 whatever that is for us, it's like opec, we can 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.600 decide if it's continuing. I just think to go like 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:34.640 for the next ten years every Tuesday, this is coming out, like, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.800 I think it'll lead to issues. I think we also 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.120 want to be able to have a spirit of the 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.000 season where we go like here we go season whatever. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.160 Of course, of course, and they'll be. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.960 Like remember season four, you know or whatever. Several ideas 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.480 floating around at the point is nothing's guaranteed in this life. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:52.840 All may pass. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.320 Away, and that's the fucking truth. But I'll tell you 0:02:55.360 --> 0:03:00.960 one thing that is guaranteed in this life. You're bemte Listen. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:06.080 Imagine me at the grocery store the day before yesterday, ravenous, 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.320 freaking out, grabbing snacks, eating them, going I need coffee 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.720 midday slump. I stroll past the Yurba mante this is 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:21.040 the jarred what's this brand? Yeah, it's bottled. Is it 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.480 Yurba or is it actually RBA? I don't fucking know. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.120 I don't know about tea, Okay, but here's the point. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:32.640 Unsweetened traditional this will get your rocks off. There's nothing else. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:33.960 It's just good. I was excited. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.160 Also, it was like three dollars versus what my eight 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:36.880 dollar macha. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.800 You know, I wonder if that was the brand that 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.920 had the tie in with somebody. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:43.559 It was like sugar. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.160 Probably they do energy drinks, but then the energy drinks. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.000 Sorry not to be toxic, but we're talking about twenty 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.240 grams of sugar. You know, there's no sugar in this, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:52.600 There's no this is just black. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:53.320 This is just tea. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.720 Yeah, and the flavor you because like you know, when 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.000 you try to you're not saying. You're not saying this 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.080 is instead of coffee in your life. No, no, no, no, 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.240 I'm just saying, but unexpected. My beverage world is quite limited. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.960 You know. It's like water, coffee, saltzer. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.320 You just go time for some water. Now in the day, 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.040 how do you how do you remember to drink fertility 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.800 struggle or my my, oh when you're swallowing a pill, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:23.080 No my yeah, my fertility jug just flew out. But 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.279 my my, my sippy cup. Oh your fertility mug. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.920 Yeah, I call it fertility mug because I got that 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.919 water bottle when I was freezing my eggs because it 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.560 was like, you need to be drinking two liters of 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:34.120 water a day. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:35.520 And I was like, fuck this. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.360 I see these women, the trad wife, the tidwife, sippy cup. Yeah, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.680 I see these women out here with this, and I 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.280 go join the ranks of them. Yeah, and that thing 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:45.000 is at my. 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.160 Side, tradwife, sippy cup, fertility mug. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.960 Yeah, it's at my side all day, every day. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.599 Okay, but listen. Yeah, and I got one too. It 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.520 freed me to get one. I got one way, you 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.400 got one? Well, I went to Backcountry at the Grove 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.240 you know store. I'm horrified to say, I don't sort 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.760 of like Moderne Ri. I kind of vibe you different 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:11.039 brands from there. Yeah, it is incredible, and I won't lie. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.240 I was recognized on the way into the store and 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.159 someone working there hag huge. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.320 It was un believable. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:26.400 The hags are infiltrating all areas when they speak out. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.720 Changing the day. Yeah, it really does give a give 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:31.279 a boost. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.040 But that Country, Oh, I went in there and then 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.799 I was like, yeah, I want one because I drive 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.000 now and. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:42.719 Wait, stop stop everything you're driving. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.839 I've finally just like gotten the hag. When did you start, Like, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.760 I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, maybe, I 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.080 mean mostly it's just like so I can go to Tracy, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.600 you know, like in the morning without so you're driving yourself. Yeah, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.920 And I said, how does it feel great? 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.120 Were you scared the first few times? No, it was 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.760 just like you driving is something. It's making me laugh, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.200 something about you behind the wheels. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.960 Well, the joke is like me. The joke is like, 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.880 I've driven all over this country. I grew up in 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.400 the suburbs drive. So it's just that we got in 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.839 this habit of like me not driving in Los Angeles, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.720 and then it just felt like I was today the day, 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.800 like right, I don't know, it just sort of got 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:27.080 in this habit and then I love it. It's fun 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.240 and I've always experienced a mood lift in the car. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.320 The car is a huge choice, like even like. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.880 Real depression, if you just get on the road, you 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.520 get your ass on the road, like driving like drive, drive, drive, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:41.680 the music. 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.520 Going, Oh yeah, it's it's huge. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.760 Driving is so interesting because you're at either side, like 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:50.960 the Brits, you know, over on the right side or 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:52.800 the left side. I think it's weird. It's weird to 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.360 operate something not from the dead center. Think about that, 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.880 you know what I mean? Yeah, doesn't seem like the 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.080 driver's seats should be Oh no, look I did it 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.720 doing the thing like this is my microphone. 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.280 Oh she's holding the let my mic was this it 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:11.560 operating out from the center. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:13.960 Oh yeah, it doesn't seem like it should be from 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.920 the center, and that like in that side you would 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.120 just be totally slamming into things so natural. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.280 Completely it is crazy. It's weird in the center. And 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.200 then guess what you can fit a person on each side? 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.160 Yeah, I have a lot of ideas for uh oh god. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.800 It reminds me and someone I think reached out. But 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.880 I really need like a technical drawing type person and 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.480 for my patents, because I have some products that are 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.560 not even nothing even splashy about them. They're just the 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.720 kind of thing where like no one noticed that we 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.360 needed them, and like we need them, and I'm just 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.240 gonna change them and I'm gonna be rich. Actually I 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.559 won't be the product ideal immediately taken. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:54.680 That's the thing. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.440 If you build a mechanism, it's so hard to say anyway, 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.000 the add. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.400 My uncle asked me, I should if I was gonna 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.880 bite the bullet, get medicated to the dock. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:09.840 For add Yeah. Oh, because I forgot you never made 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.960 a call. Oh yeah, full diagnosis, the whole full monty honey. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.520 But not for fifteen years, right right and classic add fashion. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.520 I got the number called, the woman left a message 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.760 or almost did, and they just never. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.360 Pursued it beyond that. But yeah, I can feel this 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.800 in The seasons are shifting. Something is in the air. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.080 Do you feel this well? 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.920 Seasons shifted as of today. To me, that's the first 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.120 day I felt and noticeable anything. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.920 The other day. Put on a sweater, I couldn't believe it. 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.920 I cracked open, and by open, I mean on and 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:42.920 fred heater outside. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:43.800 Let the dust burn off. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:45.839 I've been afraid for two years to turn it back 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.280 on because I let it get filled. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.360 With like dust. Wait the lightlight? No, no, just. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:52.960 Yeah, yeah, I want to make sure Boo has some'mwhere 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.440 to be cozy right anyway, go on? 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.040 No, just just the seasons that we need. The seasons 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.840 were guided by them. It actually is essential. 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.640 The weather. It has to reflect the interior and vice versa. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.280 It's like a it. We need it. Change. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.160 We need to, We need to be nudged into new 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.079 into new moods and realities. And I can feel it 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.720 and I'm doing full new life now. Ceremony, Back on armor, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.160 back on vitamin D. Vitamin D every day, I'm deficient 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.160 as we all are or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, but 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:22.719 then you got to be careful. See this has when 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.800 all spirals right, Vitamin D. Oh, I'm deficient. 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:25.480 Take vibin D. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.360 You have to regularly take like five hundred a day, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:30.959 but then like three months you have to go check 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.840 and make sure you're not overdosing, because if you have 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.280 too much vitamin D, it's a problem. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.400 Anything where there's a risk of overdosing is where I go. 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.240 I guess I'm not getting it because I can't manage. 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.199 You know, the poison is the dose or whatever they say. Yeah, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.440 remind me to tell you I had an explosive facial 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.280 with Johanna Check, so let's get into that at some point. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.000 Well, remind me, just go right in. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.719 I also finally went to Kosha Spa to what and 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.160 I got lymphatic dream image at a rikari. Okay, wait, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:02.720 hand on, slow down. What's Kosha Spa? Were we offered no, no, okay, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:03.520 you're paying out of pocket. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.200 Okay, yeah, well you go to the SPA next week 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:13.000 with me five four three two decision you goriage decision. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:16.599 With a countdown, please, I mean, yeah, but I'm just 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.679 trying to think because I'm finally getting back in my 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:19.559 routine after. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.920 You know, too bad, you have to go with me, 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.160 it's essential. I'm just saying, why, why isn't it the weekend. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.480 I'm not good enough for your weekends? The weekends? 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.400 Tell those so crowded, right right? You don't want to 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:29.520 go to puss About on the weekend? 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:30.240 Interesting? 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.880 What other fucking uncles there? I want to go somewhere? 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.040 I don't, I don't know, but yeah, I mean I'm 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.040 looking for that kind of experience. Although I did hear 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.520 about a spa in Palm Springs. That's like brand spanking new, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.360 I think. And so it's just something nice about when 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.199 you're like, I'm a third person in this bath, spend 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:48.559 the night. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.280 Maybe let's reach out what they call let's go listen 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:53.839 in folks listen in. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.560 But wait, I yeah, so I've essentially had three premium 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.439 poog experiences, you know what I mean, Like in the 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.800 sense of but I paid. It was all and I'll 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.040 say it again pre Emmy's desperation. 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.720 Where you go? You said you got buckle massage. Yeah, Kosha, 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.880 I've been dying for that. What's Kosha? Kosha? 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.160 I've sent you a bunch and I've recommended it on 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.199 this podcast. People have gone as a result. They got 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:24.280 there before even I got there. So Kosha, she has 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.599 an Instagram account, she's blonde. She does face massage, you know, 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.880 and then she shows doing it in her studio. Kosha 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.240 spa on Instagram. And so I wanted to go in 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.360 for a very long time and I went in. It 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.520 was with a different practitioner, but anyway, I went in there. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:43.360 It was heavenly. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.719 I kind of like fell asleep essentially. I mean, while 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.800 their saw them is in your sheet. It's pretty impressive. 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:50.839 Loved it. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.320 The environment was really quite nice, I mean, which isn't 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:55.760 always a case. And I don't even mind when the 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.800 environment is sort of whatever, as long as once around 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:00.520 the table with the environment was quite lovely. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:01.679 Loved it. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:07.160 Not much to say Juanna check who I've followed for years. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:08.360 This is huge. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.199 And I was like nervous to meet the facialist because 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.120 she was a celebrity facialist. She was just suggestion everything 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.560 you could hope for. Oh yeah, I got suggestions, all right. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.360 It's like what like what like what I mean? I 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.439 got major wisdom. I mean, first of all, she was 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.760 so cool, you know what I mean. Yeah, you'll see her, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.280 you'll go, oh okay, yeah, like there's a a two 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:34.360 silver massager. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.839 Like that's very classic her. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:36.520 Yeah. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.679 She she just I was immediately at ease because did 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:41.200 you find her? 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.760 Yeah, to be clear, I know, I just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:46.600 I was gonna say, I feel like I have seen 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.959 her before yeaheah. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.640 And I think she's like does she have thick black 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.960 rimmed glasses yep, yeah, and like blonde hair. And it's 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.959 just I was immediately at ease. And I get on 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.079 the table and this is like a classic thing, the 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.400 whole idea of like the facial before. You know, it's 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.120 this thing where it's like two to three days before 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.400 the enemies, and so there's this like it's like the 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.520 wedding thing with the facial It's like, well, normally maybe 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:18.000 I'd go after this or that, but this close to 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.600 the thing, you don't want to do anything too wild. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.480 Take a risk, and you know my sort of sense 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.800 of always wanting everything to be extreme. Like I'm almost 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.360 like it, you know what I mean, like like do it. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.800 I don't care if like you've you know, land popped 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.480 on my face. Yeah, like just like almost I'd rather 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.200 have the injury than the. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:40.079 Problem, you know. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.880 Like, but I trusted her whatever, and she was like 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.640 over my face, like she's like while she's doing things, 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:53.680 she's like almost whispering, like extensive scientific knowledge. Okay, extensive okay, 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:59.800 what like what she was? I think against the prescription retinoids? 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.599 Okay, I love to hear this. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.760 Yeah, okay, okay, I'm breaking in with a quick thing. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.760 I got a facial two days ago. I've talked about 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.640 retinoids on the podcast. How dare I have a podcast 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.920 even pretending to about tective to beauty or wellness? 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.679 But I myself are not on them. Yeah. I made 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.880 the decision. I'm doing it. And guess what, my germ, my. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.640 My facialists I really trust, gave me a veen, the 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.720 drug store French brand. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:27.280 Oh my god. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.760 Yeah, retinal you know it's like mixed in with the cream, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.840 non prescription straight. Yeah, just chiming in to say that 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.680 I'm planning on starting tonight. Okay, go, well, yes, exactly. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:43.560 So she's explaining in this glorious flood of the retinoic acid, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.480 you know what all these things are made of, Vitamin A. 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.000 Vitamin A is the first thing. Vitamin A. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.080 When it hits the skin, it turns into the retoic acid, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.800 which okay, h two ls wanted to do. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:52.520 You know, like that's two kids. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.840 And I'm like hoping that she knows how much I'm 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.720 enjoying it and how much I want more and like 0:14:58.760 --> 0:14:59.360 doesn't hold back. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:14:59.920 I'm like loving it. 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.480 So anyway, she's like the retinoic whatever, the prescription one. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.360 I don't know if she said it was too drying 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.840 or too irritating or something, but it was like I 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.040 believe it. Yeah, like it's irritating or almost. Like so 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.000 she's she believes in these other ones. And then the 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.920 other thing that's really cool about her is she's like 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:22.800 she has products. And I got like a travel like 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.400 a really nice set of products in a gorgeous travel 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.840 bag like that. I was like, I might use this 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.640 as a purse, and like the only other people who'll 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.960 know are the other people, Like, like it's stunning okay, yeah, anyway, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.400 but she has products, you know, but she's like, I 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.720 don't believe in lines like you know, in a skincare 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:45.080 and line, like, I believe in individual products like and 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.680 she even pushes and recommends things that are not the 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:50.440 Joanna chick. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.480 So at the end, she's like she's. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.320 Laying out different things and different things I might be 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.160 interested in or whatever, and she's talking and They're all like, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:00.920 all these products are laid out, and I'm like, well, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:02.720 what would it be if I was getting everything or 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.160 like you know, like, well what do you have, like 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.240 do you have the placenta drops or whatever? 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:06.560 Right? 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:08.960 Yea, yeah, She's like yeah, she goes, she goes yeah, 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:13.000 but it's so expensive. Yeah, And I'm like how much okay, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.600 and she's like two hundred dollars and I'm like, uh, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.240 for the for the face of my dreams, people have 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:20.520 gone they go seven hundred. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:20.880 Yeah. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.320 Yeah, I've and I've had people say four point fifty 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.080 okay for the same amount or less product. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:26.320 Yeah. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.520 The straight face right, totally, so totally. I just thought 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.760 it was elegant and fucking cool. The people's facialists and 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.200 not just act like you know, and then and then 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:37.520 she's like and I'm like, and what about like the 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.520 other products, the ones you were recommending, like the vitamin A, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.320 the particular C like you know her CE And she's like, oh, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.240 this is a very affordable brand. It's called Environ. And 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.920 it was like all these Environ products this is and 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.440 I was like, ring me up, okay, ring me And 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.040 then she wrote she wrote down for me, like the 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:01.520 plan like morning night. Can I just I mean I 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.960 think so. But the headlines were I mean, it was 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.360 essentially it was a oh so. One of the big 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:10.960 things was, you know she has a toner. But a 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.800 toner anytime water touches the face, okay, washing whatever, whatever 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:21.560 it is, you know, toner instantly to reset the pH 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:22.520 of the skin. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.000 That is like if you strip away that pH, good luck. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:28.840 Do you mean like once you once water's there, you 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.680 have to meetly apply something else you're saying. 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.680 Yeah, like like after you shower, after you cleanse whatever. Yeah, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.879 it's like you strip some of the acid or I 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.840 think that you actually need. It's like the face is 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.040 supposed to be like slightly acidic or something. Yeah, you must, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.119 and which you know makes sense to me. I mean 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.080 I've been using variety of essences and toners and things 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:46.280 like that. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.840 Well, I'm addicted to now the snail musin in the 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.280 spray bottle? Which one is that I'm on my second bottle. 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:52.600 It's costs r X. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.760 I'm trying to picture it. It's like sixteen bucks and 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.800 it's I can sort of see it in my head. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.480 Is it actually slightly thinner then the other one that 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.760 they have in the pump bottle? 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:03.800 So here's what's weird. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.720 When it hits my face, it feels a little bit thinner, 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.880 But when I'm looking at the bottle, it's thick in there. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:09.600 So this is a huge question of like can you 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.639 force anything through an atomizer essentially spray? 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.880 I know, yeah, I mean I've tried and failed at times. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:19.240 I've gone with something too thick, but wow, congrats. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.639 So yeah, I was just I was really really just 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:28.600 lit up from within with her knowledge and her entire style, 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.160 and it was just fantastic. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.440 So I'm going to be diving deeper into her world. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:35.560 So I do that. 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:40.879 I do Kosha and I did lymphatic drainage at rick Haari. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.480 Did we talk about that place? 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.159 I don't think so? Okay, sounds familiar. I got a 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.360