1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Jared has much to do and little time to do it. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: He intends to get the donation money back to anyone 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: who wants it. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: He intends to. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Get a lawyer to help him get out of his 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: marriage with Christy, all the while he believes Christy may 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: have his missing pistol. 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 2: But then another twist enters the story. 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Jared's mother in law, Sheila, wants to confront her daughter 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: to check if Christy indeed has a C section scar 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: or if it's all a lot. But Sheila wants a 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: psychologist present. Knowing her daughter's fractured state, Jared, kind hearted 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: to a fault, agrees. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: To meet a psychologist. 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: Long story short, We're in a car for it's a 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: couple hours. I'm sitting in a car with her. I'm like, 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: how did I get roped into this? Still, the whole story, 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: go through the whole nine yards, so every little detail, 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: because she's kind of doing what we're doing and going through, hey, 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: what happened here exactly? And I'm giving her the whole 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: entire kicking kaboodle. 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: There the psychologist who was originally on board to help 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: confront and talk to Christy, who now knows Jared is 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: missing a firearm, who now knows the entire truth of 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: what Jared has endured at the hands of his wife, 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: gives Jared the following advice. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: She basically said, your wife's batshit crazy. You need to 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: run as fast as you fucking can and never look back. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: Monday morning, go drain your bank accounts and go get 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: a lawyer. At the end of the day, the psychologist 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going down there. I'm going to 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: get my car and leave without even talking to she 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: to her husband. 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: The psychologist decided, after talking to Jared, going with Sheila 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: to confront Christy was not going to be therapeutic. In fact, 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: it could have been flat out dangerous. But how did 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: she enter the picture in the first place. 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Here's Jared, So Saturday night, I actually ended up going 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: back to the rental house. She's sitting on the couch 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: watching some movies. I'm only there maybe fifteen minutes. I 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: get to call from my father, Hey, come meet me 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: up the bar up the road, maybe two miles. 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: Jared's dad, David, didn't tell him. 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Why he wanted to meet because he was afraid if 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Jared had him on speakerphone that Christy would hear what 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: he was about to say, which was that Sheila had 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: told him that Christy had faked. 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: A miscarriage in the past. 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, David had no idea that Jared already knew there 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: were no children. 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: From what I can tell, David really. 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Just wanted Sheila to go down to the house and 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: check to see if Christy had had a C section. 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: That's what he wanted Sheila to do. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 4: She had a sea section, she should be caught, she 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: should still be in the hospital. 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Sheila apparently wanted the psychologist to be with her when 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: she confronted Christy, and Sheila asked David if Jared would 59 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: be willing to meet with her first. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: My father actually called me and said, Hey, your wife's 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: mother and stepfather there with a psychologist. They're going to 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: go down and confront Christy about all the lies, check 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: for a CEA section, and long story short ends up, 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: this psychologist gets in my car and wants to talk 65 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: to me before she goes down and sees Christy. Yeah, 66 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: and it was Hey, I'm sorry to hear what happened. 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: We just want to make sure she's okay. I'm like, 68 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: be careful going down there. At this point I actually 69 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: tell her, hey, I'm missing a firearm too, and through 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: this entire episode, I haven't told anyone. I'm it's in 71 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: the back of my mind. Hey, what happens if she 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: has that gun? She's already suicidal. I'm worried about it, 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: and I'm like, don't go down there unless you feel safe. 74 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm TRICIAA. Fodge. 75 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm a writer, director, actor, and federal criminal defense attorney. 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a story that's all too 77 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: real about love, lies and the lens. 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: People will go to for attention. 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: It's a story that will leave you question everything you 80 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: thought you knew about truth, about reality, and about what 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: happens when the two collide in the most unimaginable way. 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: From Audio up and just sweet Press productions, this is 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: the Unborn. The psychologist obviously didn't feel safe, and neither 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: did Jared. We tried to get an interview with this psychologist, 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: who was initially responsive, but went radio silent after several 86 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: attempts on our part to make a plan to meet. 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: Jared has now told someone all that he knew how 88 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: he was feeling, and although initially he went home to 89 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the rental and spent fifteen minutes with Christy, he was 90 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: now having second thoughts about staying the night with Christy. 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: He made an excuse to go to his parents. 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: Saturday was the first time I didn't stay with her. 93 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: I ended up telling her I'm sorry. I was drinking 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: and fell asleep on the couch, which was flat out lot. 95 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: I was not drinking. 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I didn't sleep, but it was now his turn out 97 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: of necessity to lie. 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: Of course, my mind's running a hundred mile an hour. Hey, 99 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: what's going to happen? How do I keep this up? 100 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: How can I keep these lies without her finding out? 101 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean that's just the pressure was kind of on. 102 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: So Sunday is kind of when things start going south 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: with her. 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: I know, baby, it's going to be hard, but we're 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: going to get through this. 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 5: I find a therapist that specializes in infant loss. I 107 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 5: will be going. 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 4: That's good, baby. 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 6: Are you coming home to stay tonight? 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't think I can tonight. I'm going to find 111 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: someone to talk to and get an appointment. 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 6: Okay, I hope you can sleep. I love you. 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: I love you too. 114 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: I told them not to worry about staying. My brothers 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: should be here soon. Understand that you don't want to 116 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: be around me, right now or won't do anything stupid. 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 5: I just need time to cry and hurt, and I 118 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 5: can't let people here. Give Ada a hook for me, 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 5: good night. 120 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: Sunday ended up going helping my dad. We were cleaning 121 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: up the house, so I had to keep up. Hey, 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get a house on here, still trying 123 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: to work toward that. Hey, here's what I'm doing. I'm 124 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: not gonna have my phone. 125 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Jared's lies and his distance from Christy continues as he 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: plodded through the weekend. Monday couldn't come soon enough. 127 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 6: Jared, please answer my call. Please answer your phone. It's important. 128 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 5: AD is chasing deer in the woods. Please answer, Jared. 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: She ran up over the hill and needs you to answer. 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: But Jared's distance only raised her suspicions further. 131 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: Doesn't seem like you care. But we finally got her 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: after thirty minutes. Dropping hur at your parents, and then 133 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 5: I'm leaving. I have therapy and stuff later. I hope 134 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 5: you get whatever you need, because I'm highly upset now 135 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 5: and pissed off because I just had to chase her 136 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: and I thought I was going to lose her. 137 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 6: I been worried about your ass for the last twelve hours. 138 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: And at that point I stopped replying so often. I 139 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: did set my phone down every half hour so I 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: check it, say one word. Answers back like hey, I'm fine. 141 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: She's going on and on like hey, you need to 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: pay attention to me. I'm like, listen, I need my space. 143 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: Just like you have your way of coping. 144 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 4: This is mine. I need a little bit of space. 145 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: And she kind of understood it, but you could tell 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: there was like a something was nagging at her. 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: Jared has spent the bulk of two days away from 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: his wife. Her suspicions now an overdrive, and Monday has 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: finally come. 150 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: Monday, the wheels fall off the wagon. 151 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it just goes completely haywire because I know 152 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: I have to make it to the lawyers. I have 153 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: to make it to the bank, and before she finds 154 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: out what's. 155 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 6: Going on, Jared, please think about it. We both lost 156 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: our kids, not just you. 157 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a whole new person was born 158 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: and she's losing her mind. 159 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: Here is where I find out. 160 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: She's driving around looking for me, She's calling my brothers 161 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: and sisters. She shows up at my parents' shop. She's 162 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: threatening to pack up everything, that she owns at this 163 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: rental house. She's going to let my dog out, and 164 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: I didn't really know what was going to happen. I'm 165 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: getting phone calls out the wahoo. I can't even talk 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: to my lawyer on the phone by the time. It's 167 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: just beep, beep, beep, And you can't hear a conversation 168 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: when you're getting a call like that. 169 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: And it was insane, and it was about to get worse. 170 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: We made several attempts to reach out to people in 171 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Christie's camp. We wanted to see the story through the 172 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: lens of someone who knew Christy intimately. 173 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: Was everything Jared told us the truth? Were there things 174 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: he missed? 175 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: No one from Christie's world was willing to talk to 176 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: us until we found Jenny, a hairstylist who at the 177 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: time was Christie's best friend. 178 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 7: So Christie's ex fiancee would come in with his son, 179 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 7: and Christie would come in with them occasionally and get 180 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 7: their hair cut. And then one day she just appeared 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 7: and came in and got her hair colored and cut, 182 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 7: and she started crying and I asked her what was wrong, 183 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 7: and she said that they were no longer together. She 184 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 7: said that they broke up and she was pregnant with 185 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 7: his child, and I was like, oh, okay, and then 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 7: I guess that's where our friendship began. There was a 187 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 7: time where she was having a miscarriage and I do 188 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 7: remember going to her apartment because we lived apartments away 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 7: from each other, all of the same building type thing. 190 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 7: Very weird, I know. I remember going to her house 191 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 7: after she said that she was getting the DNC and 192 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 7: she I saw one. I did see one, but I 193 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 7: never she never showed me like any proof of ultrasounds 194 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 7: or anything like that, just the one that she had 195 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,119 Speaker 7: put on Facebook. 196 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Christy had posted a sonogram photograph of the baby she 197 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: was expecting with her ex, but when Jenny went back 198 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: to look for it on Facebook, it was gone. Jenny 199 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: was very candid about her initial impressions of CHRISTI can. 200 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: I cuss, You can cuss. 201 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 7: This bitch is crazy. There were sometimes where I was like, 202 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 7: what is happening? What is going on? Like it just 203 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 7: seemed like she was go, go go, go, go, go 204 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 7: go go go twenty four seven like twenty four seven. 205 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 7: It was good. 206 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: But it wasn't just Christie's excessive energy that struck Jenny. 207 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: She was warned not to be friends with Christy. 208 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, there was. I obviously did my Facebook's talking before 209 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 7: I became friends, and there was people telling me don't 210 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 7: be friends with her, and I ignored it because she 211 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 7: didn't seem that way towards me. 212 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Jenny and Christy had a fast friendship and Jenny genuinely 213 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: loved Christy as a friend, but that didn't stop the 214 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: warnings from coming in. People telling Jenny that Christy's crazy 215 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: and a liar, Like. 216 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 7: She's crazy, like she lies, she lies about like the 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 7: like being pregnant, and I'm like there's no way, Like 218 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 7: I saw an ultrasound and I'm like, now I'm thinking 219 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 7: back when I asked to see that ultrasoung again, she 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: wouldn't show me. 221 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: The person who was filling Jenny's head with reasons not 222 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: to be friends with Christy was Christie's ex fiance's brother's girlfriend, 223 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: that same ex fiance who was the reason that Christy 224 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: and Jenny met. 225 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: The same ex fiance. 226 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Christy said she was pregnant by when the two became friends. 227 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 7: A girl that dated her ex fiancees brother, so she 228 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 7: knew the family pretty well and she was like no, like, 229 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 7: don't at first, I was thinking like, Okay, I'll see 230 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 7: how this could because she seemed nice, and I thought 231 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 7: other girl was just like not wanting me to be 232 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 7: friends with her because she didn't want me to be 233 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 7: friends with her any and. 234 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: That wasn't the case. 235 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 7: She really was telling me the truth. 236 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Everything Jenny tells me about how Christy and Jared met 237 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: and started hanging out didn't have any new revelations. 238 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: It was everything we already knew. 239 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: But then something interesting came up out of her retelling. 240 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 7: COVID hit We're having a party and I was making drinks, 241 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 7: Christy was drinking and she started getting sick and she 242 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 7: was starting up all day, it seemed like, and close 243 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 7: to the end where was leaving and stuff. Me and 244 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 7: Jared's mom were sitting there saying like, oh, like, what's 245 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 7: going on. Maybe she go to the hospital. And then 246 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 7: Christy comes out and Jared's mom says, maybe you're pregnant. 247 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 7: I was making the joke and I said, yeah, it 248 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 7: was twins, and I think that's where it started, if 249 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 7: I'm being honest, and she just went with it. The 250 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 7: next morning, I get a phone call. Probably she always 251 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 7: called me so early in the morning, like seven o'clock 252 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 7: somewhere in there, and she called me and she said, 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 7: you're never gonna guess this, And I was like, what. 254 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: Christy was pregnant this time by Jared. 255 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 7: Then it seemed like a couple of weeks went by 256 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: and she called me again real early in the morning 257 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 7: and she goes, I'm going to kill you. And I'm 258 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 7: like why, and she goes, because I found out what 259 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 7: I'm having. Like how many? I go, Are you having one? 260 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 7: She goes, now, I'm having two. I said, you're joking. 261 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: She said, She's gonna kill you as if you were 262 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: the Jinx. 263 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 7: It was the Jinx for sure. Next thing that happened 264 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 7: they got engaged. Not only was I in the wedding, 265 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 7: she had asked me to be her maid of honor 266 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 7: and I said no because I don't like being in 267 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 7: the spot like like that, not. 268 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 8: Me at all. 269 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 7: I don't even like wearing dresses. But I sucked it 270 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 7: up and I did it. It was beautiful. It was 271 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: a dream. It was a dream wedding. It was everything 272 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 7: anyone should have asked for. I know, Jared's mom and 273 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 7: family and friends worked so hard. I myself worked very 274 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 7: hard on helping and doing and preparing for that wedding. 275 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 7: There were days where I would literally just go after 276 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 7: whatever I was doing. 277 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Jenny doesn't like to be the center of attention. She 278 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: doesn't like a lot of pictures taken of her. She 279 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: doesn't post a lot to social media. Something she and 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: her former best friend did not have in common. 281 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 7: Everything, and I mean everything was social media. Anything that 282 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 7: they did, anything that she was thinking share, she was 283 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 7: constantly sharing. She's constantly posting pictures anytime they'd go out, 284 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 7: or any family functioning, pitcher picture, anything about the babies picture. 285 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Jared and Jenny aren't the only ones who thought Christie's 286 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: obsession with social media was excessive. 287 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: Gretchen did too, as. 288 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 9: A like as a person, even like I know, parents, 289 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 9: if you have a kid that goes into the niku 290 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 9: and you don't take those pictures and posts them right away, 291 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 9: you want to make sure things, you know, said of 292 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 9: down go smoothly. 293 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: I see it all the time, and she was just 294 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: posting up. 295 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Technically, Jared was posting the photo, but he was more 296 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: like the other parents. 297 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: Gretchen describes. His instinct was to not post the photos 298 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: of his newborn twins. He didn't want to. 299 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: He initially said no, but Christy wanted those photos up 300 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: on social media, and she would not relent, regardless of 301 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: the fact that they weren't her babies and she had 302 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: no twins of her own. 303 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 8: And I remember this one game night, she said, I 304 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 8: just got a text from my mom saying she's moving 305 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 8: tomorrow and she's not going to ever see our baby. 306 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 8: It was just odd timing, which I guess, you know, 307 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 8: sometimes families happen like that. 308 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, just rivery dramatic. 309 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: Christy didn't have a real relationship with her dad as 310 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: far as we were aware. We knew that he doesn't 311 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: live too far away, and that Jared's father, David, and 312 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: he were friends growing up, but he did not attend 313 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: Jared and Christie's wedding. 314 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 7: I never asked about history of Christie like I never 315 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 7: asked about her father. I knew she'd have a relationship 316 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 7: with him. I never asked about him, and I never 317 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 7: asked why. I never asked about her mom. If she 318 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 7: were to tell me yes, that would have been fine, 319 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: but I'm not one to cry. 320 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: Henry, of course, had a strong opinion of Sheila, and 321 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't a positive one. 322 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 10: Like if, like if somebody said to their kids an asshole. 323 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 10: I always say, if you plant Corny, get court, So 324 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 10: the parent must be an assault. 325 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Jenny also felt pretty strongly that Christie experienced trauma in 326 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: her childhood. 327 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: That trauma helped shape the woman Christie became. 328 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 7: We were driving the walmart to get supplised for the 329 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 7: rental house, and we were passing a hospital, but on 330 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 7: that where there's like a bunch of houses that you 331 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 7: can rent, and she goes that house was the house 332 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 7: that our mom pulled Christie by her hair and wouldn't 333 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 7: let her go to the hospital to tell her to 334 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 7: tell the hospital what was going on in her house. 335 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: It was Christie's younger sister that was telling Jenny the 336 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: story as they drove past their old rent of house. 337 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 7: I'm assuming because of mental abuse, physical abuse, all the above. 338 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 7: I think that was the little sister's way of telling 339 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 7: me that she wasn't up there like right because of 340 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 7: her past. 341 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: The story is unsettling and sad. Christy was trying to 342 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: get help. 343 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 7: And I think the closest thing that she could communicate 344 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 7: with was the hospital. 345 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: Whether she got the help she was seeking, we'll never know. 346 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: But this was not the only story of abuse and 347 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: trauma that we heard Christie experienced as a child. Henry 348 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: recounts an extremely disturbing story of something young Christie witnessed 349 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: at the hands of her mother, Sheila. 350 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: Her old man. 351 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 10: They got back together and they tried to work things out, 352 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 10: and then she went fast shit crazy and run off 353 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 10: the reservation and shot and killed all the farmers, tried 354 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 10: to burn her house down. Oh yeah, she's certifiable. The 355 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 10: mother is like slaughtered them in front of the kids. Yeah, 356 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 10: it was pretty crazy. 357 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: Henry claims Sheila got into a fight with her partner, 358 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: was so enraged that she shot and killed her animals 359 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: in front of her children and then tried to set 360 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: their house on fire. Another coincidence or a family pattern. 361 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: Jenny also noticed an odd relationship between Christy and her mom, Sheila, specifically, 362 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: when they went. 363 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: Wedding dress shopping together. 364 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: It was Jenny Christie, her mom, and her grandmother that participated. 365 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 7: I don't remember the exact conversation that I had with 366 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 7: Kirsty about her mother, but I knew her mom was 367 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 7: not the best mom. I think it was whenever we 368 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 7: want wedding dress shopping. That was the first time I 369 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 7: think I met her mom and it was a little off. 370 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 7: Everything was off that day. If I'm gonna be honest, 371 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 7: I think the mom wanted it to be her way, 372 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 7: like everything you need to be about. Like the mom, 373 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 7: I feel like me and myself, I'm, I guess the 374 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 7: protective friend, so like I will voice my opinion if 375 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 7: I feel like it's needed. 376 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Jenny's opinion was that Sheila was too focused on what 377 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: she would like to wear rather than what Christy would 378 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: feel good in that she was being insensitive about the 379 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: fact that Christy was a pregnant bride with a growing belly. 380 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 7: And I did have a conversation with Christy and I 381 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 7: was like, you know, like this is your stuff. You like, 382 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 7: do what you want to do, wear what you want 383 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: to wear. You know, like you need to be comfortable 384 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 7: that day, because however far along she was, she could 385 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 7: have been bigger, you know. And I just want to 386 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 7: her to feel comfortable with her. Grandma on her dad's 387 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 7: side was there, and she I feel like she felt 388 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 7: more comfortable with her there versus her mom being there. 389 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: It's Monday morning and Jared has a lot to get done. 390 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: So Monday morning rolls up seven point thirty in the morning. 391 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: I'm sitting at the parking lot waiting to go through 392 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: the drive through because during all this you couldn't go 393 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: into banks because of COVID, So I'm sitting in the 394 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: bank waiting for this bank to open up. Christy wasn't 395 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: awake yet, so I'm not getting these phone calls. At 396 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 3: this point, I had already went and called a lawyer, 397 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: was waiting on a phone call back. 398 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: I would say he was sad. 399 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 11: He was sad and disappointed and maybe a little embarrassed. 400 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: This is Jared's lawyer again. 401 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: Melissa, when she first met with Jared, she could not 402 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: believe what he was telling her. 403 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 11: I would say, disbelief and sad. I had heard of 404 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 11: Phantom pregnant. Let's see, but I had seen the photos 405 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 11: and I was shocked. 406 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Melissa actually knew Jared, though she had not seen him 407 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: in over a decade. Before Melissa decided to go to 408 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: law school, she worked at a preschool with Jared's mom, 409 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: a preschool that Jared himself attended, and even though she 410 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: liked Jared's mom very much, once she left to attend 411 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: law school, they did not stay in touch. 412 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 11: And the fire that occurred with the home I'm not 413 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 11: friends with his family on Facebook because I hadn't seen 414 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 11: them in so long, but I saw the GoFundMe on 415 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 11: Facebook days before he came in. So when he came in, 416 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 11: I started putting at least the fire and him together, 417 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 11: and I was like, that's a lot to handle. And 418 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 11: then my feeling was, I am going to do everything 419 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 11: I can to protect him, and I am going to 420 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 11: try to resolve this for him with the least amount 421 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 11: of paying postule that. 422 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: I can on the legal end. 423 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 3: So I end up eight thirty rolls around on first 424 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: one in line and the problems begin. We get into 425 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: we have this new license as you got because my 426 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: old license burned up in the fire. Oh dar, So 427 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: the only picture they have on file is from when 428 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: I was sixteen years old. There was eight year difference there. 429 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: So they have to call my main bank. My main 430 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: bank didn't note until nine o'clock, so I have to 431 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: sit there for a half hour. 432 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: Jared, please answer my call. Please answer your phone. It's important. 433 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: So of course, now Christy's awake, I'm getting phone calls. 434 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: So it ends up. I'm like, hey, I want to 435 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: withdraw all my money. They're like, it's Monday morning. We 436 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 3: don't have enough money in the bank to give this 437 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: to you. It's my money. Why can't I get it? 438 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: Jared is set on a course of getting back the 439 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: money from the donations, but Christy has not been served, 440 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: and she's threatened to leave. Jared had never been involved 441 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: in a lawsuit, which is what an annulment is. Melissa 442 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: had to impress upon him that in order for service 443 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: of process to be effective, they need to serve her 444 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: in person, and neither one of them can do it. 445 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: The time for ignoring Christy ends now. 446 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 11: I told him I'm afraid she's going to run. We're 447 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 11: not going to get her shirt, and this is going 448 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 11: to take a long time, and I wanted this. 449 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: To be done for him. 450 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: They're like, hey, we can give you this much money, 451 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: but you'll have to go to another branch. 452 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: Ends up. I go to a second branch. Now they're 453 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: already open. 454 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: I get line phones blowing up still because she's getting 455 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: alerts that there's money coming out of these accounts. 456 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: I saw, are you draining the bank account? I don't 457 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 5: know what's going on, but you need to talk to me. 458 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: My bank calls, but they're like, what are you doing? 459 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm draining my accounts. 460 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: They're like, well why, I have no idea what's going on. 461 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 5: I'm a mess and you are too. I need you 462 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 5: to talk to me. It's fine if you don't care 463 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 5: about me, or want to be around me, or love me, 464 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 5: or can't even look at me. My paycheck goes into 465 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 5: our account, not much because maternityly, but it feels like 466 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 5: you have run away and led me with nothing. 467 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 6: I'm warned about you. Please just answer me. 468 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: They can get the sense of something's wrong because I 469 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: mean I go to my I walk in my bank 470 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: every Friday, so they know my name. It's a small town. 471 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: They're like, has your account been compromised. I say yes, 472 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: I think my account's been jeopardized. They're like, okay, go 473 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: to this bank next. They'll have as much money as 474 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: they can give you set aside, and then you come 475 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: here and we should have the rest for you. 476 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: But Jared wasn't the only one at the bank. Contrary 477 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: to what she. 478 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: Was saying in her text messages, Christy wasn't just sitting 479 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: at home getting alerts that Jared was taking money out 480 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: of their bank accounts, or driving to his parents' shop. 481 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: Looking for him. Christy was at the bank too. 482 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 7: When that happened. She was at my apartment that morning, 483 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 7: and that morning we went to the bank and she 484 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 7: wanted to take all this money out from all the 485 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 7: donations and all that stuff, and come to find out 486 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 7: in the morning Jared already wants and left her with 487 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 7: four thousand dollars. 488 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 4: I just need some time. I will meet you at 489 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: some point today. 490 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 5: You took everything and I have no money. What are 491 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 5: your plans? Are we done? Are you leaving me with nothing? 492 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: I will talk to you later. I just need to think. 493 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: Melissa prepared the paperwork for an emergency annulment based on fraud. 494 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: Annulments are rarely filed, and emergency annulments are even more rare. 495 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: That's because in an annulment, unlike a divorce, there are 496 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: very high standards to prove to the state that the 497 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: foundation of the marriage was so flawed that they don't 498 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: even have to acknowledge that it ever existed. 499 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: So she goes, Okay, give me a couple of minutes 500 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: and now we'll call you back. So I'm driving around 501 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: ten minutes, go by, Hey, come up to my office. 502 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 4: We need to go over to the courthouse. 503 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 3: I have these emergency annoynment papers drawn up for you. You 504 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: need to bring this much money in cash. We can't 505 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: do a check because they put a. 506 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 4: Hold on it. 507 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: So I've run up there, me and her. We run 508 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: over to the courthouse, get these papers signed. Then I'm like, okay, 509 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: what do I do now? She goes we have to 510 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: get someone who can go and serve her. She says, hey, 511 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: I can't do it. You can't do it. Let me 512 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: call my daughter. 513 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, Jared grew up with Melissa's daughter 514 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: as well. 515 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: Did you go to pre school with Harry? 516 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 4: I didn't, Actually I think I probably did. 517 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 5: It is at the rental house. I have her water 518 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 5: and the last food packet there was. I love you always. 519 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 5: I'm left and. 520 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 6: I'm out of your left. 521 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: So as we're driving, Christy's blowing up my phone and 522 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: still say hey, I'm done with you. I'm tired of 523 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: you not answering me. You won't tell me where you are. 524 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: I've been worried, sick, you're withdrawing money. What's going on? 525 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: The lawyer then tells me, hey, you need to answer 526 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: the phone. I don't know why I had sticky notes 527 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: in my car, but my lawyer's writing on sticky notes. 528 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Jared was frantic and they needed to be covert. The 529 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: sticky notes were Melissa's way to guide Jared into getting 530 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: Christy to come meet. 531 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: And of course I'm still trying to drive while I'm 532 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: having this conversation, and Christy can't know that someone else 533 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: is a car. 534 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 4: Please, Christy, I do want to meet. 535 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 11: I knew how to get her there because if I 536 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 11: were a female reaching out to my spouse or significant 537 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 11: other and they had not been responding and I became suspicious, 538 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 11: I knew what would bring me to. 539 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: Come and meet them. 540 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: I knew what I would listen to. 541 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: No, you've left me with nothing and scared me to 542 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 5: death today. I have no idea where you are or 543 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 5: what you're doing. 544 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: I'm just driving around, you know, That's what I do 545 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: to think. 546 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember, but I can't drive. 547 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 5: I don't have a car, or house or any of 548 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 5: my stuff. You also drained over twenty thousand. 549 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: Christy has told Jared that she is packed ready to go, 550 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: and she is leaving as he sits in his truck 551 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: at the bank drive through, waiting for the last of 552 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: the donation money. Jared and Christy have a phone call 553 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: while Melissa continues to essentially help him woo a livid 554 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: Christy into meeting. 555 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: This is all why I'm sitting in a drive through, 556 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: so that this bank is hearing my entire conversation. I 557 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 3: don't know what gossip was going on in that bank 558 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: lead us will say. I end up answering phone, telling 559 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: her all these things. Hey, I just needed some time. 560 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: I love you. 561 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: Let's meet at the parking ride. At this point, she 562 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: also has my dog. I mean, that's about the only 563 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: thing left that I have that's mine. 564 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 4: It's it's my dog. 565 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: Christy told Jared she's going to let his dog aid 566 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: A loose the emotions. 567 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm furious. I'm afraid my dog's not going to be around. 568 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: Is she is she gonna shoot my dog because I 569 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: mean that that gun is still missing. She goes, okay, 570 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: i'll meet you. So we go to the parking ride. 571 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: I pull up right next to the car. I'm probably 572 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: four spaces away. I pull up, there's no cars in 573 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: between us. I get out. I'm walking toward the car. 574 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 11: It was under it was under an overpass. It was 575 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 11: it very much could be a movie like setting. 576 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: She opens the car door and up pulls my lawyer's daughter. 577 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: Christy goes, who's that? I go, I don't know. Why 578 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: don't you ask him? So the lawyer's daughter goes, hey, 579 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: are you Christy Akron? She goes, yeah, why you have 580 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: been served? I run the car. I never shut the car. 581 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 3: If I run to the car, shut the door and 582 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: drive off. I don't say a word. I'm headed straight 583 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: to the rental house to go check on my dog. 584 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: Get the dog, and get out of there as fast 585 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: as I can, because to get in there it's only 586 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: one way. The end of the road is blocked off. 587 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: As I'm driving too, I call. 588 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: My lawyer alert. 589 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: She's like, hey, as soon as you do it block her. 590 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: These last three messages I get and then this is verbatim, 591 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: And this was two minutes after I served her. I'm 592 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: driving running paper. She knows that she has the annoyment papers. 593 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: The three texts I got are an unquote, are you serious? 594 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 6: What did I do to you? I have no words 595 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 6: to say to you. 596 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: I really wanted to respond, but I knew better see 597 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: you later never And I and I have not spoken 598 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: a word to her since. 599 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: As for Jared's beloved dog, Ada Dog. 600 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: Ends up being fine. I get her in a car 601 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: and I just drive. I don't know where I can go. 602 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: I don't know what Christy's going to do. 603 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: And as far as that missing gun goes, Christy never 604 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: had it, Jared did. 605 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 4: I did end up finding the gun, so that was 606 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: that was huge. It was. 607 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: It was a couple of weeks after and I'm cleaning 608 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: out my car. I reach under the seat and grab 609 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: trash out from under the air. I feel the gun. 610 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my goodness, all that worry for nothing, 611 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: and then I start retracing my steps. It just it 612 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: was always in the back of my mind, where's that gun? 613 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 3: And I don't know if it was because she was 614 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: in this mental instability. She had that mental instability and 615 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: suicidal and I didn't know it was. It set in 616 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: my mind, and I just want to make sure everyone 617 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: else knew about it too, before they were put in danger. 618 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: In the aftermath of Monday's events, Jared sat down to 619 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: write a letter. 620 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: It was nearly three thousand words. 621 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: In it, he pours his heart out, his way of 622 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: trying to make things right with the community to whom. 623 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 4: It may concern. 624 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: I had Jared read me the entire letter. 625 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Here he is reading some excerpts from the donations he 626 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: and Christie received after the fire. 627 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 3: First, I'd like to thank everyone for the help, prayers, 628 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: and donations for my family and the fire on Sunday, 629 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: December sixth. I'm trying to contact everyone individually who donated 630 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 3: in a timely fashion to thank them and see if 631 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: they have questions. 632 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: To the night of the berths, she told me. 633 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: They couldn't find a heartbeat and she had to have 634 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: an emergency sea section and I wasn't allowed in. I 635 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: sat in the car waiting until I received a phone 636 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: call from her saying that both children were born and 637 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: both are healthy, and they had some fluid in their 638 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: lungs and they were on oxygen. I got all the dates, 639 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: waits for the Facebook. 640 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: Post to Christy's arrest At the hospital. 641 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: Two officers walked her out of the car and told 642 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: me that she was no longer allowed on property unless 643 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: she has an appointment. 644 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: And finally, the moment when he uncovered the truth. 645 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: A doctor who calls me back and explains that Christy 646 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: was never pregnant. 647 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: There is a. 648 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: Condition called a fantom pregnancy and a woman can trick 649 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: her body into looking and acting pregnant. 650 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: He ended the letter with a heartfelt plea and apology 651 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: to all that were affected by the tragedy. 652 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: I want everyone to know that I am very sorry 653 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: and I had no idea about any of this. One day, 654 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 3: I was going to have a family. In the next 655 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: I have no family or home. I want to apologize 656 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: to all that have been hurt or fiel with trade, 657 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 3: but I want to set the record straight and at 658 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 3: least try to give some relief to the rumors and 659 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 3: that the children did not pass away. I would appreciate 660 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 3: it if you could please respect my family and my 661 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: privacy at this time as we warn all of the 662 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: losses that we have incurred. 663 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 4: Sincerely, Jared Ackron. 664 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: As much as Jared was bothered by Christie's obsession with 665 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: social media during their marriage, he saw it as a 666 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: useful tool in this moment. 667 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: He would post this letter to Facebook. 668 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: That may have been the hardest I've ever had to write, 669 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: and it was even harder to click that send button 670 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 3: to put that out there into the world for everyone 671 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 3: to see. And once I saw how many people actually 672 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: saw it and share it, it was even more than 673 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 3: the fire itself. 674 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 4: Really the post about that and it then knows and 675 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: all that it was. 676 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 3: I don't know what words can really describe how I feel, 677 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: other than that was the hardest thing I've done. I 678 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: wish i'd kind of know we were going to do that, 679 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know if I would have said yes 680 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: to doing this, because that's how strongly it still hits me, 681 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 3: like I feel myself sinking into my chair and it's 682 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 3: a tough thing for me to sit here and still 683 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: talk to you. 684 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: Do you want to take a minute? 685 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 4: I think we can. 686 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: Actually, I think I would okay with the donation money 687 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: safely now in Jared's possession. He wanted everyone who donated 688 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to get their donations back. Any 689 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: donations he was still receiving by check. He immediately mount back. 690 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: So I guess jumping back into the donations and what 691 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: I decided to do there, I felt it was appropriate 692 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 3: and I want I I didn't want all this money 693 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: if it wasn't meant for me. So I started the 694 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: process of sending these checks that were still coming into 695 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: mail to my address and being dropped off to me. 696 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: I decided that I'm going to send them back. I 697 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: just put a return posts on there, put a stamp on, 698 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 3: send them back to these people, and to my surprise, 699 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 3: it kind of left me flabbergacid. About a week and 700 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: a half later, I start getting the same donation sent 701 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: back to me. 702 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: Dear Jared, Dear Jared. 703 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 3: But instead of being in Christy and I's name, it's 704 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: just written in my name, which and it was. 705 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: People that were closer than to me. It was. It 706 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 4: was a weird thing. 707 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 3: Now, some people did keep their money, which by all 708 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 3: means that it's your money. I didn't expect it back 709 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 3: or anything like that. But it was very heartwarming and 710 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: it was a funky feeling. 711 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 6: Dear Jared, you got your letter, thank you, but we 712 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 6: cannot accept our check back. 713 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: Keep your head up, dear Jared. I hope this helps 714 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: after all you've been through. 715 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just checks that Jared was getting. It 716 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: was people's thoughts and well wishes. 717 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 3: And I think the other big thing was that I 718 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 3: actually put that letter. I printed it out and put 719 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: it in there with that check. The little notes I 720 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 3: got back, I still have them all. Honestly, they I 721 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 3: don't want to say I want to look at them 722 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 3: because I don't know how. 723 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 2: I'll react again, but something made me keep it. 724 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: But something made me keep them in it. I don't 725 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 4: no one. 726 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: And while Jared was starting to see a path forward, 727 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: he was still picking up the pieces of being lied 728 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: to for nine months and the question that kept rattling 729 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: around in my head. 730 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: Had Christie lied about anything else? 731 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: I've really been waiting for you to ask these questions. 732 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: I mean, it's I could go on the rest of 733 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: the time we have here. 734 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start next time. On 735 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: the unborn. 736 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 11: The money. 737 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 10: I think she was trying to steal obaby and sell 738 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 10: it for the money. 739 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 7: And I had said to her multiple times, you need 740 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 7: to stop that, like you need to block him, delete him, 741 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 7: do whatever, like just be done. 742 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 11: Just think what she could have done if she was 743 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 11: left a. 744 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 10: Good That car they bought was brand new and somehow 745 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 10: it has twenty some thousand miles on it and they've only 746 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 10: had it for four months. 747 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 4: So how did that happen? 748 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 7: It could be that it could be the money. It 749 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 7: could have been the faking everything. It could have been 750 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 7: because they faked it in the donations of the Fire 751 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 7: of the Babies. It could have been it could. 752 00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 4: Have been all of that. 753 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: It's just like a snowball effect that the lies that 754 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: continue to come out in I didn't see any of that. 755 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 2: That's next time, The Unborn. 756 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: The Unborn is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Audio Up 757 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: and JESU Press Productions, created by Trisila Fotch and Frank 758 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: Rodriguez mal produced by. 759 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 2: Alvin Cohen and Rachel Foley. 760 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: Executive produced by Jimmy Jellinek, David Dwaites and Jared gustav 761 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: Edited by Gerard Bauer and Preston Dawson. 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