WEBVTT - Country Music Superstar Jelly Roll Talks Inspiring Lyrics and Having Fans Throw Things on Stage 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.440 Here we go. It's another episode of thinking out loud, 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.200 and you're gonna want to be hanging out for this. 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:09.799 Country music singer jelly Roll stop by in the midst 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.920 of his sold out back road Baptism tour. He wanted 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.599 to talk about changing your life around and the crazy 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.279 things that people throw at him on stage. He's just 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:20.880 the best guy ever, and you're gonna fall in love 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:22.280 with jelly Roll right now. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:30.360 Let's listen in. I have woke up before noon three 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:35.120 times this year and you were too open. No, you're 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.920 the solution. Baby. Good morning America. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:43.080 Okay, that's worth it, jelly Roll, Welcome to the show. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:44.839 Baby, good mounting. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.479 It's just when Jelly Roll walks into the road, you 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:48.320 just feel good. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.839 Thank you. It's normally because I bring an odor of 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.960 legal ass pot with me. Smells good. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.200 We're the same to me that while driving up and 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.040 down the streets of New York, every single block has 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:05.920 a marijuana a store. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.319 Oh dude, it's crazy, and I'm just assuming because it's 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.880 New York. Maybe judgmental, but I'm assuming all of them 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.800 are an undercover operation for something crazy like I don't know. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.120 I just like to romanticize my New York is like 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.360 an old school gangster thing, you know, like they're stealing 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.200 TVs or knocking off trucks too. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.000 You know, I got bad news. They seem legit when 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.440 I go wow out on the back road baptism tour. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.319 How many how many stops do you have on this tour? 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.160 Dude? Last night was night nine or forty four? Yes, sir, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.200 there was a Bridgeport, Connecticut. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.800 Last night, just nine in. Are you okay? 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.679 Just oh dude, I listen. I got my first real 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.120 I tied one on last night. Full disclosure. I had 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.520 to get an ivy on the way here. But good, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.680 but I feel great. No, it's been incredible, man. It's 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.000 I was explaining to somebody that, like, I couldn't have 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.000 even dreamed of this. I couldn't have even dreamed that 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.000 seven thousand people would buy a ticket to see me 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.560 in Bridgeport, Connecticut on a Wednesday, you know what I mean. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.280 So it's like, I don't know, this is all surreal 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.600 to me. Well, at least she didn't strap one on 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.600 last night. Yeah, right, exactly, or have one strapped on me. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.160 You could be a confusing morning. So we had someone 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.440 to leave us a talkback on our iHeartRadio app So 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.200 I literally just heard you guys talking about an interview 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.000 with Jelly Rolls. And as I'm heading out ninety. 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:27.480 Five dors in Delaware, I passed two tour buses and 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.040 then one huge pink. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.640 One with Bunny Ears and XO. 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.919 Apparently Jelly Roles White hats her own tour bus. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.800 Yes, that was pretty cool to see. Explain this to me. 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.440 First of all, especially sounds I hurt to her. Buses 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:41.639 more fun than yours. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.080 Way more fun than my tour bus. It's way more fast. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.399 And first of all, this lady is awesome, thank you. Yeah, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.800 Bunny brought her own bus man, She's got her own crew. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.200 It's a big old pink bus. I was dead set 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.639 against it, and then she took it to TikTok and 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.440 the people voted yep. But she's riding around in a 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.120 big pink spaceship with Bunny years haul over it. That 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:02.240 says Bunny x. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.280 Though it sounds like and I'm making an assumptions here, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.600 you guys are having a lot of fun, even though 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.680 you're only nine in you're having fun on this too. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.840 Well. You got to remember, I'm kind of Van Wilder 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:12.959 of the music business. Anyways, you know, I kind of 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.320 got here a little later than everybody else and partied 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.480 on the way. So we're just kind of I feel 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.440 like it's a mobile frat party for us. None of 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.160 us went to college, so we're just imagining what college years, 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.760 what it been like. And it's a ball dude. It's 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.600 we're having fun on and off the stage. Maybe maybe 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.960 this is college. It's a different type of university. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.519 Let's talk about. Let's go back, let's go back. Where 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.440 are you from? Tell everyone in your words, like you 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:43.800 tell everyone your story and what motivated you, in your opinion, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.400 to get you where you are today. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:49.360 I would say that I'm from Antiox, Tennessee. My mam 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.040 and gave me the nickname Jelly Row when I was 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.600 a kid. My name is Jason D. Ford. I was 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.480 born in Antioch, which is a little town right outside 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.920 of Nashville, you know, twenty thirty minutes on house kirts town. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.600 And I grew up just in a house at music 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.160 and all I want to do is make music. And see, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.800 I never had another thing I wanted to do but music, 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.120 you know, and this this has been my whole life. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.640 I understood purpose of music when I was young You 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.120 and I spoke about it before, briefly, but like music 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.040 resonated in my household different. I watched people deal with 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.839 drug addictions by listening to music. I watch people get 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.760 sober listening to music. I watched people relapse listen to music. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.839 I had all these I watched people deal with mental 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.279 health and trauma and tragedy through music. It was like 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:32.840 we had a house that we didn't talk a lot, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.479 but we throw on records, you know what I mean. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:36.760 So it's funny. I ended up being a big talker, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.640 you know. But that's what got me into music, and 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.400 that's been my purpose from day one. Was I call 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.160 it therapeutic music. It's real music for real people with 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:46.920 real problems. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.960 So you say to the other role that you always 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.839 wanted to be in music? Does does that mean as 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.680 a kid you were fintasizing a beat about becoming a 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.440 successful millionaire doing music or just playing honky tonks anywhere USA? 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.640 What what did that mean to you then? 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.000 Being in music? Yeah, the early dream was just hockey talks, right, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:06.680 because I didn't see I didn't know. You know, they 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.600 they say you believe what you're exposed to, and I'd 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.240 never seen success. Right. So it was like I seen 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.120 dudes play the local bar and I was like, Yo, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.360 if I can go play some local bars, I could 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.280 make some money and not have to commit uh nefarious 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.719 criminal activities, you know what I'm saying. I was like, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.560 so I just wanted to And then I started seeing 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.080 scale and then that's when you start going, oh man, 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.240 I'm dreaming too small. This is like this thing could 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.719 be a thing thing, you know what I mean. But 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.040 initially the plan was just to you know, I guess 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.360 I never even associated money with it, you know what 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.080 I mean. I just associated like these dudes were doing 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.000 what they loved for a living. They were touching people 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.200 and they wasn't selling drugs, and that's what inspired me, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:46.440 you know. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.599 So coming up, did you did you play all roadhouses? 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.960 Did you? Did you ever play a show where you 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.560 see the movies where they put chicken wire up in front? 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:55.400 I played one of those. 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.520 Tell where I was going with because some people mayn't 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.200 understand what chicken wire and in front of the stage is. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.239 This is a real thing. They put up chicken wire 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.320 and I and I asked them the first time I 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.440 got to play one, I said, why don't y'all put 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:13.000 Why chicken wire, they said, because when people were throwing 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.799 the beer bottles and they were hitting like regular fencing, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.880 it would still crack and go through. They were like, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.599 the chicken wire just kills everything. So these guys, I mean, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.560 because these bars were literally rowdy enough that you got 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.920 behind the chicken wire because they start throwing stuff. I've 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.800 been I've had the most fascinating time Elvis watching all 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.440 these artists get stuff thrown at them on TikTok, and 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.600 I'm just tickled because I'm like, oh, these people never 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.080 played a bar. Like if you're like, you don't know, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.400 I don't know what it's like not to have stuff 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.599 thrown at me. You know what I'm saying. I've only 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:47.200 played to this day people throw brawls or pots. I 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.000 get lots of pot. I mean, like Cypress Hill amounts 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.480 of pot thrown on the stage of It's like, I've 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.960 been getting stuff thrown at me my whole I played 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.880 the Gathering of the Juggalos. Somebody shot a bottle rocket 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.960 at me once at live bottle rocket. Yes they can, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.280 that can get through chicken wire, Prue, I could get 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.080 through chicken wire. But yeah, we played. I played a 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.240 spot in Louisbourg, Tennessee that had chicken wire at it. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:09.720 I'll never forget. I played a lot of places that 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.240 had big fences or just big you know, it's man 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.200 them ald just scary bars, dude. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.120 But yeah, I would think that if you're playing a 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.840 roadhouse and they're throwing long Star beer bottles at you, 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.520 you are getting hit with the liquid of the beer 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.960 the backwash. That could be like success, they love me. 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.520 They're all getting messed up out there, they're loving the show. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.720 Oh yeah. It was like the first time I played 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.240 the Gathering, they shot me with fago and I didn't 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.720 understand it. That was how they endeared you, Like if 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.440 they sprayed fago at you, if they if they sprayed 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.200 pea at you, they didn't like you, Okay. It was 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.080 that dramatic of a difference. Faygo thumbs up, pissed thumbs down. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.800 How do they throw pea? Oh dude, they put a 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.640 pee in a bottle and throw it. Yes, and then 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.240 just yeah, it's crazy. I seen a girl get hit 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.000 with a bottle of pea at the Gathering one time. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:56.360 Her name was u Tia Tila Tila Tequila. It was 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.560 Tila tequila. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:58.560 We heard of her. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.920 Absolutely, yeah. I was there when that happened, the famous 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.160 gathering incident. It was crazy, dude. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.920 So if you get a hit with a liquid, it 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.480 takes a second to realize, well, either it's beer or. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.200 Pe and you got to either smell it or liquor. Right, 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.200 It's the only way to find out, Elvis. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:14.920 There's no time to send it to the last sit. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:20.520 There and go or go oh god, music so glamorous, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.960 this glamorous career you've chosen. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:29.800 Well, and then you wake up one day and you're 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.560 on Good Morning America on ABC. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.880 Well before that, though, I was with you on the 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.280 Only Intrepid. That was still the coolest day we've had. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:39.160 On That was a cool thing. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:39.360 You know. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.439 General said he's only been up and at him before 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.840 noon but three times, three times this year, and I 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.400 was because two of those because of me. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.840 I'm so sorry. I'll wake up for you any day, Papa. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.480 Let's talk about country music. You know, country music. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.320 When I was growing up in Texas, it was about 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.920 pickup trucks and dogs. And you know, someone's in prison 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.439 and a mom involved. Right now, look at the music 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:05.040 you're putting out. It's, as you say, therapeutic, it's it's 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.839 truly meaningful. I mean, it's it resonates in a way 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.520 that country music really never used to resonate about it, right, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.640 And of course this is from your personal experience in life, 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.360 I guess. I mean, are you seeing other country artists 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.679 really truly moving towards this more honest approach to their 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:23.360 music making? 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.960 Yeah? Yeah, I think we're going back to that era 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.800 a little bit right now. I think guys like Sturgel 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:34.960 or Tyler Childers, Colter wall Zach Bryant, these guys that 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:39.559 are just the singer songwriter thing is back happening in Nashville, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.280 and it's incredible to watch. It's not to say every 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.200 other era of country music wasn't cool, but that seventies 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.640 era was special. When Willie was writing all these songs 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.600 with Wayland and all these cool collaborations were happening, and 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.120 there was a lot of myth building happening to the 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.800 outlaw movement. And I think guys like myself, Hardy Morgan 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.040 Wallen following that group of guys that are kind of 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.400 also like the other side of what Tyler Childers and 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.720 them do with that singer songwriter mentality and sharing a 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:08.480 different story. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.840 You know, So the good old opry has made a turn. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.160 Oh yes, babe, then the grand old opry is like 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:17.079 accepted us with wide arms open as well. So it's 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.800 been even cooler to see like the only critics we 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:22.839 get are like, you know, like the purest you know 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.840 what I mean, and they're gonna always. But I think 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.640 that what's happening for country music right now. It's never 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.320 been a cooler time to be a part of country 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:30.240 music than right now. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.120 Looking at your single Need of Favor, which is still massive. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.520 What's in the middle of its massive phase? Your number 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.679 two number one consecutive hit, is that right? 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:40.000 Yes? 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.719 Yeah, listen to these lyrics. I mean, we're gonna play 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.480 it in a minute. You listen to these lyrics, and 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.360 this is this is coming from a place a lot 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:51.000 of artists country and our country are not feeling vulnerable 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:57.320 and and brave enough to show right. But you it 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.760 sounds like you would rather do a song like that 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.040 than a song about moms in prison and dogs and trucks. 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:04.600 Yeah, So why is it. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.120 So important to you to get that off your chest 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:07.920 and out of your heart? 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.800 Vulnerability? I think also like I grew up at Myron 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:16.040 guys like James Taylor, right, Jim Crochey. These were my heroes, right, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.720 and these dudes that just bared their soul on these records. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.320 You know, I just Bob Seger guys that we were 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.360 listening to against the Wind at four o'clock this morning, 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.360 drinking down the highway, and it just it's like the 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.240 first time you ever hear it. Every time you hear it, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.280 And I just wanted to write songs for those, And 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:32.920 I want to write songs like those, And I wanted 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.800 to write songs for people that don't have songs wrote 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.440 about them, right, Like it is important as a songwriter 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.640 and as a commentator to sometimes talk about the things 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.560 that are people are, you know, Like I mean, we 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.360 talk about everything from drug addiction to you know, I mean, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:47.840 we get you, sir, you've heard the music, you need 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:49.240 a favorites of a great example. I mean, we get 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.400 really raw with relationships and how we deal with things. 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:55.679 It's like I felt like when I was coming up, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.720 nobody representing my culture and music, and I was like, 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.080 if I ever get a chance, you know what I mean, Like, 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.720 if God ever gives me that megaphone. I'm a scream 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.920 in it, you know what I mean. And I'm just 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.880 trying to represent those without representation. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.840 So nine shows into this forty four stop. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:13.839 Nine sellouts in a row. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.880 Let me tell you, h nine sellouts. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.840 Maybe it's a big deal for the big. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:23.280 Gap sellouts of forty four. The fans are getting to you. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.240 They're talking to you like, what are you hearing? Are 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.480 you hearing anything that you expected to hear? Are you 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.160 hearing anything that you did not expect to hear? From 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.600 how they are responding to what you're giving them. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.200 The music wise, it's crazy. It's I don't know what 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:40.079 I expected, but the outpouring of love every night. I mean, dude. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.680 I know artists always say this, but I mean dude, 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.440 We're laughing, dancing, and crying in that ninety minute set 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:52.040 every night, Me and fifteen thousand people every single night. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.120 You know. It's It's It's church, It really is. I 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.000 didn't understand it, but my friends who aren't from the 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.520 South that are like, I don't know what a Sunday 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.800 service looks like, but I would assume this is it. 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.320 And that hit me. It hit me, especially last night 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.480 because all my new York City friends came to Bridgeport 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.600 and they were like, is this what church is like 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.000 down South? And to myself, I thought, kind of, this 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:14.760 is kind of what church is like. Yeah, it was 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:16.520 like in this really weird way. And maybe that's where 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.280 I draw a lot of that inspiration from. It's my 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:19.240 early roots, you know. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.679 Yeah, go into a great church service. It's supposed to 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.400 wear you out, oh for sure, but being able to laugh. See, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.839 I went to Southern Baptist, right, we went to church. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.400 Not a lot of laughing in a Southern Baptist. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.240 For a lot of hell fire and brimstone, a lot 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.760 give you a little bit of hope at the very end. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.400 Exactly at the very end, they'd hit one major chord 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.120 on the oregan and be like, but there's hope. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.040 And then and they keep going on and on, and 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.760 you know, there's a there's a pot roast burning back 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.440 at the house because your Sunday, your Sunday roast is burning. 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.800 But a good service is what you're giving your fans, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:49.480 you know. I mean, but let's go back to laughter. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.360 As a Southern Baptist. You know what they say, Southern 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.400 Baptists are famous for two things. What's that eating and arguing. 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.400 That's that's what they're the best at. Dude. I grew 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.280 up in a Southern Baptist church, which the Chapel the 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.360 Church I named after my album after as a little 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.200 Southern Baptist church on a back road, one hundred person church. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.920 My daddy used to say, you know what the difference 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.520 between a Baptist and a Methodist is? I said what 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.840 he said. At least a Methodist will say hello at 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:12.559 the liquor store. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:18.160 Right. Look, I let's talk about the laughter you guys. 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.440 I'm going to make an assumption, just the few times 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.280 we've been with you, I assume that you guys do 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:24.360 a lot of laughing. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.600 Oh it hurts the tummy. We're all a bunch of 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:32.200 stoners that think we're comedians. So's the worst crock pot ever. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.160 During during all the traveling and all the all the 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.800 time on stage and laughing with your friends, getting a 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.680 little messed up here and there, do you ever have 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.240 moments where you just need to go off to your 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.320 to the side and go, okay, I need some jelly 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.840 roll time? And or do you always be Are you 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.960 always the gregarious ue we have to be around people? 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.640 No? No, I love it. I'm it's it's a mixed Normally, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.560 I just love being around people, though I just kind 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.280 of want to go. Dude, I'll sit in the back 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.520 room sometime. I'm a sleeper. That's what I really am. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.800 I realized earlier in my career. You can't be fat, dehydrated, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.000 and sleepy. So I have chose to sleep as much 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.960 as possible to know what I'm saying to at least 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.680 have one of those three things. Check. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.160 Look at this forty four sold out nights. But then 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.920 you look at like a Taylor Swift whatever, how many 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.200 shows is she doing. She's like like eight hundred thousand 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:24.920 shows in one year. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.560 She's been to break every record on Earth. It's been 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.280 the funnest thing to watch and what she's doing, you know, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:31.640 but you're providing the same thing. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.480 Taylor Swift is doing these shows that are just like 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.960 visually stunning. Every move she makes on stage is an 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:44.720 Instagram moment. Everything she says is just perfectly placed. Your 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:48.840 show makes you feel the same, but it seems like 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.560 it's the opposite. I'm sure there's a lot of planning 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.960 going into shows. You have a set list, but it 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:55.640 looks like you guys are just up there, like, just 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.120 do what do you want to do next? 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:59.520 All right, let's do that song. It's pretty close, man, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.560 We're just damning, dude, we're doing I left a lot 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.720 of room in my set open for that, like for 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.520 the feeling of the room, you know what I mean, 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.720 because I feel like music is supposed to meet people 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:14.120 where the room is, and we're also like, I don't 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.080 know why I've always been this way, but I feel 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.960 like it sounds a little better when it's a little sloppy. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.240 It's normal, it's organic. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.880 Yeah, it's like there's this like supernatural thing, which I 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.040 love what Taylor does too. I am a swiftie for 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.680 the record. Now you go on the record. First time 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.680 I've ever talked about this publicly. Somebody clip it and 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.400 send it to Taylor. I love her. She's from Hendersonville, Tennessee, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.400 and we never met, but we're like neighbors. But uh, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.360 our stuff's just like a little more sloppy in general, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.840 and that's just, you know, I don't know. Bob Singer 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.600 is another Bob Segert quote. He had two of my 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.400 favorite quotes of music. He said that one just search 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.120 for songs you can sing with conviction. That's quote is 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:50.080 on my studio wall. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.200 Now, songs you can sing with conviction? 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.520 Yep? Just that easy, Like what the most easy way 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.200 to think of it, like just search for songs that 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.720 you can sing with conviction. And he said, man, it 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.680 was something different about this silver Bullet Band because they 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.280 played just a little sloppier. He was like, it's just 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.040 something that made it feel more, you know, like he's 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.119 when he talked about what he thought his best records were, 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:09.640 it was like, anytime I did something with a silver 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.600 bullet band, it was just a little more grid, a 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.080 little more slop to it. You know. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.200 Is that just a known thing on the stage with 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:17.680 your band or do you ever have to stop it 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.679 down and go, hey, can you slop this up? 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.560 No? No, no, I have to unslop them. Yeah, I 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.000 have to catch them backstage before the show, like somebody 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.359 had the tequila for another hour, you know, saying because 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:29.440 these guys will go. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.359 Gosh, you guys seem like you run it high and hard. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.720 I mean, after forty four sold out shows, are you 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.360 gonna be ready for the rehabit facility? 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:38.919 For sure? The ones we got to check in the 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.760 class action lawsuit, I get from making people drink every 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.280 night on stage. Uh no, dude, we'll do good. We'll sleep, 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.240 I get some rest. But I also, man, I'm telling you, dude, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.840 I drank probably two nights this whole to another band, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:57.480 those degenerates, they're horrible. It's almost a prerequisite. We got 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.719 one sober guy in the band, and I like him, 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:00.840 you know. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:14.280