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Speaker 1: You're breaking news into CNN. Three sources tell CNN that

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Speaker 1: according to an early US intelligence assessment, the US military

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Speaker 1: strikes on three of Iran's nuclear facilities last weekend did

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Speaker 1: not destroy the core components of the country's nuclear program

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Speaker 1: and likely only set it back a few months. That's right.

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Speaker 2: So this is an assessment that actually is out from

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Speaker 2: the Defense Intelligence Agency, that is the Pentagon's intelligence arm

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Speaker 2: and it was based on a battle damage assessment conducted

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Speaker 2: by US Sentcom after the strikes. According to one of

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Speaker 2: the sources, to that question that has been asked about

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Speaker 2: how much damage has been done, this is a real question.

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Speaker 2: It's also a political question that has been to something

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump has been sort of dealing with here recently.

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Speaker 2: What are you learning, Natasha, Yeah, Look.

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Speaker 3: Briana, this is the first assessment that we are getting

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Speaker 3: that the US intelligence community has found about the battle

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Speaker 3: damage that resulted from those US military strikes on these

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Speaker 3: three Iranian nuclear facis over the weekend. And as you said,

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Speaker 3: it was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, which is

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Speaker 3: the Pentagon's intelligence arm And it is worth noting that

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Speaker 3: it is a very early assessment. The strikes were only

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Speaker 3: a matter of days ago, and the intelligence community is

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Speaker 3: still gathering intelligence. They are still working to come up

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Speaker 3: with a full, comprehensive picture of what exactly happened here.

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Speaker 3: But based on a battle damage assessment that was carried

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Speaker 3: out by US Central Command, essentially looking at the images

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Speaker 3: and looking at what was actually damaged, the Defense Intelligence

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Speaker 3: Agency has assessed that the core components of Aron's nuclear

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Speaker 3: program are largely intact and that Iron's nuclear program has

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Speaker 3: essentially only been set back by months now. We presented

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Speaker 3: this information to the White House for comment, and White

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Speaker 3: House Press Secretary Karen Lovitch she did acknowledge the existence

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Speaker 3: of this assessment, but she said in a statement that

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Speaker 3: the administration disagrees with it. She said, quote, this alleged

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Speaker 3: assessment is flat out wrong and was classified as top secret,

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Speaker 3: but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous low

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Speaker 3: level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this

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Speaker 3: alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump

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Speaker 3: and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly

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Speaker 3: executed mission to obliterate Around's nuclear program. Everyone knows what

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Speaker 3: happens when you drop fourteen thirty thousand pound bombs perfectly

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Speaker 3: on their targets total obliteration. Now, it is worth noting

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Speaker 3: here that there has been dissent, i should say, within

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Speaker 3: the intelligence community, within the defense community, about just how

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Speaker 3: much of an impact these massive bunker buster bombs would

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Speaker 3: actually have on around's nuclear facilities. It was far from certain,

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Speaker 3: given that these bombs had never been tested in an

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Speaker 3: And what we are told is that as of now,

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Speaker 3: this Defense Intelligence Agency assessment, it does conclude at this point,

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Speaker 3: again it is still very early that those underground facilities,

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Speaker 3: including the centrifuges, including the highly enriched uranium that everyone

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Of course, this does stand at odds with what President

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseith had been

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Speaker 3: saying in recent days about the impact of these US

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Speaker 3: based on everything we have seen, and I've seen it

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Speaker 3: all our bombing campaign obliterated Around's ability to create nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 3: Our massive bombs hit exactly the right spot at each

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Speaker 3: target and worked perfectly. The impact of those bombs is

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Speaker 3: buried under a mountain of rubble in Iran. So anyone

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Speaker 3: who says the bombs were not devastating is just trying

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Speaker 3: to undermine the president and the successful mission. Now, our

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Speaker 3: sources did emphasize here that there was a severe damage

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Speaker 3: these nuclear sites. And so there was damage done, of

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Speaker 3: course by these massive bombs, but the core components of

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Speaker 3: the nuclear program, we are told they are largely intact,

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Speaker 3: and it only set program back by a matter of months.

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Speaker 1: Can Ron violated?

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Speaker 5: Do you believe that a Ron?

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Speaker 1: Do be?

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Speaker 6: Need to see you?

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Speaker 7: I do. They violated, but Israel violated it too. Israel.

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Speaker 6: As soon as we made the deal.

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Speaker 7: They came out and they dropped the load of bombs

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Speaker 7: the likes of which I've never seen before, the biggest

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Speaker 7: load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know,

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Speaker 7: when I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, you

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Speaker 7: don't go out in the first hour and just drop

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Speaker 7: everything you have on them, so I'm not happy with them.

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Speaker 6: I'm not happy with Iron either, But I'm really.

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Speaker 7: Unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because the one

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Speaker 7: rocket that didn't.

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Speaker 6: Land, that was shot perhaps by mistake, that didn't land,

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Speaker 6: I'm not happy about that. What we have, we basically

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Speaker 6: have two countries that have been fighting so long and

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Speaker 7: Don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand.

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Speaker 8: That this is the primal scream of a dying regime.

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Speaker 9: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 9: these people.

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Speaker 10: He's not got a free shot.

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Speaker 8: All these networks lying about the people, the people have

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Speaker 8: had a belly full of it.

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Speaker 10: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you

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Speaker 10: tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

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Speaker 10: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 3: big line?

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Speaker 5: Mega media?

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Speaker 9: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 9: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my

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Speaker 9: task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 5: If that answer is to save my country.

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Speaker 10: This country will be saved or room.

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Speaker 5: Here's your host, Stephen k Ban.

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Speaker 9: It's Tuesday, twenty four June, the Year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty five. Of course, a bombshell, no pun intended,

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Speaker 9: dropped this afternoon, didictively leaked by the deep State, Jack Psovics.

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Speaker 9: I think kurb Mills is going to join We're gonna

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Speaker 9: have san Fattis in the morning, Jack Psobics. Let's let's

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Speaker 9: make sure that we you know, the presidence right now

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Speaker 9: still in at the NATO meeting. I guess they just

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Speaker 9: I guess maybe they're just breaking up. So he's got

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Speaker 9: the whole fiasco with Ukraine in Zelensky, who showed up,

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Speaker 9: who was invited that he's trying to lay hands on

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Speaker 9: and make sure that we stopped the killing over in Ukraine,

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Speaker 9: the Russian Ukraine War.

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Speaker 10: Uh, this came out.

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Speaker 9: Today, as you and I said it was going to happen,

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Speaker 9: the deep State came out and uh, this is what

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Speaker 9: happens when you don't put out your own bomb, your

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Speaker 9: own preliminary battle damage assessment starting on Sunday morning, just

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Speaker 9: as a first cut, Jack, break this down for me.

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Speaker 9: This is a sen Com. It's coming from Sencom. But

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Speaker 9: obviously they reported the combatant commanders on the intel side

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Speaker 10: Actually, I think technically the leak came from there.

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Speaker 9: What is your assessment of their preliminary battle damage assessment, sir.

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Speaker 5: Well Steve.

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Speaker 11: To be clear, we don't know exactly where the league

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Speaker 11: a low level staffer, clearly designed to undermine President Trump's mission,

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Speaker 11: President Trump's successful achievement of the commander's desired end state

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Speaker 11: in his objectives with the operation over the weekend. But

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Speaker 11: what we're told at this point was that the initial

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Speaker 11: handed off to DIA to create their larger assessment. So

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Speaker 11: Centcom is collecting the intelligence. DA of course then is

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Speaker 11: going to be working with NRO Spase four satellite assets

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Speaker 12: To what has gone on.

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Speaker 11: So the real question here, I think is for the

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Speaker 11: it does seem like the initial sourcing for this assessment

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Speaker 11: Middle East. Right, we pay com we say Pacific and

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Speaker 11: Africom and Yukom, but Centcom means Central Command. That's your

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Speaker 11: been saying here on Warroom for a while, Steve, this

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Speaker 11: so I haven't seen yet General Gorilla come up and

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Speaker 12: He did not speak very notedly. He was there, I believe,

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Speaker 11: Battle damage assessment on Sunday morning with Secretary Hegseeth as

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Speaker 11: because this was a huge, huge mission for the American military,

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 9: So we started this, you had the obviously the Saturday

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Speaker 10: All the way through our show, we announced it here

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Speaker 9: You remember then Pete Hegsith and General Raison Kane gave

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Speaker 9: which was incredible. And you're at the scale, the distance,

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Speaker 9: the difficulty the attack itself, Jack, and you know there's

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Speaker 9: an Intel officer, there's nothing short of.

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Speaker 10: Breathtaking.

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Speaker 9: I think it behooves all of us, and we have

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Speaker 10: Remember that I think they canceled.

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Speaker 9: I think I'm not actually sure, but I think they

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Speaker 9: Intel that drove this initially, right, How did all of

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Speaker 9: a sudden this come out of nowhere? I think everybody's

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Speaker 9: got to take a deep breath. Clearly, you look at

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Speaker 9: gave him an assessment pretty quickly said it's obliterated.

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Speaker 10: At least to the human eye, it looks obliterating.

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Speaker 9: And there's all types of technologies what you're going to

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Speaker 10: But I think we have to go. We have to

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Speaker 9: Until you tell the battle damage assessment and what they

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Speaker 9: got and what percentage.

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Speaker 10: That's not the way these things are done.

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Speaker 9: What was the initial target package, what were the what

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Speaker 9: were the combatant commanders, and then the pilots all the

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Speaker 9: way down through the chain. As you know in intel

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Speaker 9: and particularly in air intel, and we're using tomahawks.

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Speaker 10: This is where you start. This is the package. This

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Speaker 10: is what we're doing.

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Speaker 9: This is one of the reasons Jackie, as you remember,

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Speaker 9: I was startled and said, we're using tomahawks on one

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Speaker 11: they been able, were they able to get them out beforehand?

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Speaker 11: Did they leave them in?

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Speaker 12: What was there? What do we have left? Of course,

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Speaker 12: there's real questions about this.

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Speaker 11: By the way, the IAEA, just as we're talking, Steve,

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Speaker 11: the IAEA says US strikes on Iran were quote very damaging.

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Speaker 11: The group found that two impact holes from the US

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Speaker 11: strikes were above the underground I remember it's two bombs

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Speaker 11: per hole were above the underground halls that had been

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Speaker 11: used for enrichment as.

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Speaker 12: Well as storage. So they're basing their.

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Speaker 11: Battle damage assessment just on the commercial imagery that's come out. Obviously,

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Speaker 11: the DA and Central Command would have much more robust

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Speaker 11: ability to discern what's there, but even the IAEA says

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Speaker 11: they aren't able to determine exactly what is left. And Steve,

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Speaker 11: I think what's going on here now is, Look, we

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Speaker 11: know that in the intelligence agencies and in the intelligence

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Speaker 11: community writ large, there's no lost with love loss between

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Speaker 11: them President Trump, Secretary hag Seth, d n I Gabber,

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Speaker 11: John Radcliffe, all the rest are with CIA, and so

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Speaker 11: they would do anything they can to undermine this administration

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Speaker 11: the same way that this same pit nest of vipers

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Speaker 11: was doing the exact same in the first administration. And

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Speaker 11: of course they're doing it while he's meeting with the

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Speaker 11: NATO meters and you got Zelenskian air. He's up in

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Speaker 11: a suit for the first time because you know he's

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Speaker 11: going to be pushing for that supplemental aid package for

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Speaker 11: Ukraine and all the rest of it. It's clearly why

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Speaker 11: this league was done now to undermine the president while

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Speaker 11: he's abroad meeting with.

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Speaker 9: NATO before I let you go, and I'm gonna get

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Speaker 9: Kurt Mills here after the break just sore to let

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Speaker 9: you go. The whole sense of urgency, I say, the

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Speaker 9: false sense of urgency, But the sense of urgency came

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Speaker 9: off of new intelligence that essentially the MASAD and CIA

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Speaker 9: had that was different than what our the IC community

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Speaker 9: as DNI represents otherwise includes Syncom India defense intelligence. That

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Speaker 9: information drove a whole series of events, including a week

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Speaker 9: later or ten days later on Saturday, a massive strike,

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Speaker 9: a coordinator shrike of just epic proportions.

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Speaker 10: I'd like to see. We need to see that now

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Speaker 10: more than ever.

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Speaker 9: We have to understand that because that leads you then

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Speaker 9: to what exactly was accomplished of that, and that should

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Speaker 9: come forward in some sort of declassified mode immediately. And

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Speaker 9: I'm of the opinion that when we see that, we're

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Speaker 9: gonna go, hmm, now, where is it that you had

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Speaker 9: to start on Thursday night and do a sneak attack?

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Speaker 10: Where was that? Jack Besoba? You know you get a bounce.

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Speaker 9: Final thoughts social media, your Human Events Daily has been

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Speaker 9: on fire.

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Speaker 10: This is in your wheelhouse, sir.

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Speaker 11: Well, thank you, Steve. I do appreciate that. And it's

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Speaker 11: been burning to the camp both ends a little bit here.

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Speaker 11: So we're up at humid Events Daily and human Events

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Speaker 11: dot Com. You can get all the information on that

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Speaker 11: report and more as we have it there. And uh, Steve,

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Speaker 11: as as you can imagine, I know you had you're

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Speaker 11: talking about the Kennedy Center a little bit earlier today.

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Speaker 12: So tonight I think I owed Tanya Tay a little bit.

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Speaker 12: I was able to talk to some.

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Speaker 11: Folks and we got hooked up with some of those

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Speaker 11: lame missed tickets for tonight.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 9: You guys have a good You don't get enough nights

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Speaker 9: out with the boys. So Tanya Tay.

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Speaker 12: Who's spec Oh no, no boy, just being a missus.

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Speaker 10: Just as saying, you guys get a date night, Jack,

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Speaker 10: Pisoba Gune day. Jack, you have a great time. Thank you,

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Speaker 10: Thank you for carving out some time for the audience today.

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Speaker 10: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 9: Philip Patrick and Kurt Mills just can't get any more serious, folks,

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Speaker 9: path to war and putting Americans in harm's way.

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Speaker 10: All next in the War.

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Speaker 5: Room, here's your host, Stephen k Bath.

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Speaker 9: Kurt Mills Joints. Welcome back, Kurt Mills Joints is Birch Gold.

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Speaker 9: The man from Birch Gold is going to join us

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Speaker 9: in the moment, Philip Patrick. I've asked him to come

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Speaker 9: on today to kind of lay everything out. Also talks

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Speaker 9: to the about the bricks. Huge news out of China

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Speaker 9: that she may actually she may miss bricks, and there's

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Speaker 9: a lot going on in the Chinese Companies Party high command.

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Speaker 9: I think they made a decision not a good time

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Speaker 9: to be on a planet. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 9: a moment with our guy who is going to bricks,

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Speaker 9: Philip Patrick. So Kurt Mills, because this was a time

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Speaker 9: leaked by the deep state. Remember I told you three

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Speaker 9: most powerful institutions. I'll leave the courts aside for a second,

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Speaker 9: but the three most powerful institutions that run the Imperial capital,

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Speaker 9: the CIA, the FED in Sencam Sencom is the muscle,

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Speaker 9: the combatant Commander. Sencom is like a god on Earth.

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Speaker 9: You got Corilla now, the initial uh information. That's why

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Speaker 9: Caroline Levitzky became of a very junior analyst. It started

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Speaker 9: Sankam got Toda and the Deep State leaked it on

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Speaker 9: Trump and they timed it. They timed it for the Ukraine,

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Speaker 9: the most important. This is what all the media and

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Speaker 9: Europe is saying. This is the most important NATO summit.

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Speaker 9: That's why I was scheduled for three days since the

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Speaker 9: end of the Cold War, this one, because they're going

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Speaker 9: to determine Ukraine and so and so much else geopolitically

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Speaker 9: and geostrategically. So, Kurt Mills, My argument is that we

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Speaker 9: don't know why we had to rush into war, right

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Speaker 9: and because we haven't been shown that and we everything

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Speaker 9: we know from dn I is that things were still

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Speaker 9: normal course of business. Met Yahoo went on Brett baron

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Speaker 9: Sunday night and said, yeah, there was a breakthrough, but

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Speaker 9: it's twelve to thirteen months away for a weapon, so

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Speaker 9: it just doesn't And so we don't know what President

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Speaker 9: Trump and what he signed off on in the strike.

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Speaker 9: But they had a quick cut and it was obliterated

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Speaker 9: and you could see that from even you know, the

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Speaker 9: International Atomic Energy Agency came out and gave a pretty

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Speaker 9: good report on just commercial based information. What is your

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Speaker 9: theory of the case here, because folks, we can't we're

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Speaker 9: not going to have another golf of tongue king.

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Speaker 10: Okay, not gonna happen.

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Speaker 9: That was before all alternative media and things like not

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Speaker 9: gonna have alre not gonna have a golf of tong king.

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Speaker 9: And we're not going to have a situation where they're

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Speaker 9: run around looking for Scotts. We're not going to do

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Speaker 9: the phony weapons of mass destruction where they lie to

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Speaker 9: your face, bald face. We're not gonna let that happen.

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Speaker 9: And that's why we're like a dog with a bone

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Speaker 9: with this. We've got to go back to those day

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Speaker 9: and you must get the information. You must get the receipts,

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Speaker 9: and the American people must understand this still keeping from

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Speaker 9: sources and methods. If it's got to be some classification,

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Speaker 9: that's fine, but there's a lot of this information we

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Speaker 9: let out.

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Speaker 10: So, Kurt Mills, what is your theory of the case, sir.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So, I mean, basically, you know, they're calling this

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Speaker 14: the twelfth Day War, but you know, I think it

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Speaker 14: actually technically is eleven day war. And so we have

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Speaker 14: seen a case now where the Israelis moved first. Some

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Speaker 14: of the early strikes were awesome, and since the little

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Speaker 14: such of the word they evoked awe. They seemed attractive,

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Speaker 14: and I think the President was frankly sympathetic to the

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Speaker 14: glamor of them. Then there was a strong pushback in

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Speaker 14: my opinion, by Maga, by the base, by this program,

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Speaker 14: by others Tucker Carlson, et cetera, et cetera, and I

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Speaker 14: think the President took in the full raft of information,

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Speaker 14: and then he eventually moved last Saturday, and the direction

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Speaker 14: that he was always going to move, which is that

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Speaker 14: he was going to do the strikes on the Iranian

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Speaker 14: nuclear sites. I do wonder, though, as reporting is trickling in,

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Speaker 14: and as the frankly just open bad faith of the

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Speaker 14: Israeli government led by net Yahu Is made manifest that

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Speaker 14: they didn't want to honor the ceasefire, I do wonder

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Speaker 14: if the fuller picture of what is transpired just transpired

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Speaker 14: is coming into view, which is and there was a

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Speaker 14: report just you know, we came over with a wire

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Speaker 14: thirty minutes ago about a Defense Intelligence Agency report that

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Speaker 14: said that even if all of the nuclear sites were destroyed,

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Speaker 14: which I think remains an if, respectfully to the White House,

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Speaker 14: even if they were destroyed, the Iranians would basically be

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Speaker 14: able to rebuild this capacity in a matter of months,

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Speaker 14: which was the assessment of many independent experts and analysts

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Speaker 14: even before these strikes. So it is setting up the

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Speaker 14: situation in which the nuclear issue, the striking nuke facilities,

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Speaker 14: is a false issue. It doesn't actually solve the problem

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Speaker 14: for either side. For those who want to avoid war,

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Speaker 14: this was an unnecessary tactical move. And there's those who

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Speaker 14: want war. I think the tell is already in it.

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Speaker 14: They're already upset today the Markell events of in theory.

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Speaker 14: They got what they wanted. They got the president of

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Speaker 14: the United States to bomb the Iranians on behalf of

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Speaker 14: a foreign government, and when Trump brokeered a ceasefire, they

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Speaker 14: screamed bloody murder. Because the nuclear issue is not really

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Speaker 14: the issue here. I think it should be negotiated. I

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Speaker 14: don't think Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 14: and I think that offer is at the table right now,

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Speaker 14: which is why Israel intervened in is conflict in the

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Speaker 14: first place, to stop a piece accord.

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Speaker 10: Want me through that again.

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Speaker 9: You're saying that the nuclear bomb making all that is

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Speaker 9: not was not the purpose, and that's one of the

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Speaker 9: reasons we haven't seen and they haven't been any It

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Speaker 9: hasn't been any even leaks to the media about what

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Speaker 9: drove the urgency right before we got to the upsell,

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Speaker 9: because that's not really what this was about. That was

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Speaker 9: a misdirection play, is what you're saying, correct, And that's

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Speaker 9: where the CIA and the massade come in.

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Speaker 14: Look, I think there is israel I. Think there's the

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Speaker 14: Israeli government, and then there's this Israeli government led by

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Speaker 14: this Prime Minister, Benjamin Ninyaho. And what we know about

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Speaker 14: Benjamin Nyahoo is that he has been claiming about an

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Speaker 14: imminent Iranian nuclear program since at least the time that

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Speaker 14: he was you an ambassador in the early nineties. He

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Speaker 14: said the Iranians would have a nuclephin five years. He

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Speaker 14: has been claiming that it is just on the horizon

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Speaker 14: for his entire political career. At this point, it is

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Speaker 14: a fake issue. Insofar as the Israeli's goal, the Prime

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Speaker 14: Minister's goal is regime changed in Iran. It is very

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Speaker 14: hard to say that openly, and so they obsess over

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Speaker 14: or they get the American public, they get the Murdoch Empire,

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Speaker 14: they get the Republican establishment, they get an audience to

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Speaker 14: President Trump, to obsess over the nuclear issue. But once

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Speaker 14: the nuclear issue itself is taken off the table, they

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Speaker 14: keep moving the goalposts. The Iranians at the beginning of

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Speaker 14: these negotiations look not trying to do the Iranians any

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Speaker 14: favor here, But the Iranians came in with a certain

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Speaker 14: amount of weakness and they said, look, we will agree

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Speaker 14: to no nuclear weapon. In fact, even if you don't

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Speaker 14: believe them, the Supreme Leader has a fogbaw on nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 14: They basically don't want their enemies in the region to

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Speaker 14: have them either, so they're comfortable putting it off the table.

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Speaker 14: Then the goalpost got moved to what zero enrichment. The

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Speaker 14: Iranians weren't allowed to enrich any uranium, even a very

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Speaker 14: low amount, because that was going to be an impossible demand,

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Speaker 14: were near impossible demand for the Iranians to meet. And

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Speaker 14: so once we reached today sixty one, the Israelis spectacularly

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Speaker 14: intervened to enforce a fake deadline to a negotiation that

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Speaker 14: they weren't party two. There were only two parties of

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Speaker 14: the negotiation, Iran in the US, and the Israelis intervened

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Speaker 14: to quote enforce the US side, and you know, that's

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Speaker 14: what caused this crisis. And I think Trump, you know,

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Speaker 14: this morning, in the full toatality of events, a little

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Speaker 14: bit in the rear viewer hopefully has seen what has happened.

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Speaker 14: And you saw him snap. You saw him snap on

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Speaker 14: the White House lawn. He said, I'm not happy with

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Speaker 14: Iran or Israel, but he really really reserved his ire

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Speaker 14: for net Yahoo. He seemed disgusted with the bad faith

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Speaker 14: and frankly, the fact that I mean it was pretty astonishing.

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Speaker 14: They announced the ceasefire, but the ceasefire went into effect

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Speaker 14: several hours later, and it was like the armiscist to hey,

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Speaker 14: World War One. The deal was signed in the four

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Speaker 14: am hour, and they were like World War One generals

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Speaker 14: insanely throwing men over the lines to get more killing

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Speaker 14: done before eleven to eleven. That's what it was. And

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Speaker 14: that's who we're dealing with right now with the current

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Speaker 14: government Jerusalem.

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Speaker 10: The Deep States stepping in here too. You can see this.

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Speaker 9: This this whole leak now is to try to jam

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Speaker 9: up President Trump. And they're gonna they're they're still looking

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Speaker 9: for they have not given up. They're still looking for anybody.

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Speaker 9: Because you see Levin and these guys, the Fox News guys.

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Speaker 9: They're apoplectic that President Trump has stopped here and wanted

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Speaker 9: to cease fire and says, hey, there's no more war.

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Speaker 10: It's a twelve day war. End of story. What do

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Speaker 10: you anticipate?

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Speaker 9: What?

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Speaker 10: What choice are they trying to force?

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Speaker 14: Sir, Well, just to underline it again, that shows you

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Speaker 14: the nuke issue. It's fake in a certain sense, right

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Speaker 14: like Trump took it off the table, and now they're

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Speaker 14: losing their minds because he doesn't care about regime change

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Speaker 14: or anything else. What they are trying to force here

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Speaker 14: is regime change. That is what they that is what

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Speaker 14: they want. Additionally, for nat Yahoo, I think he wants

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Speaker 14: the crisis to just keep going because he needs this

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Speaker 14: spectacular state of exception in order for him to remain

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Speaker 14: Prime Minister of Israel. He needs a war footing. He

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Speaker 14: needs his own population docile and fearful and terrify for

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Speaker 14: the prospects of their own lives in order to keep

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Speaker 14: voting for somebody who has this level of political liability

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Speaker 14: and frankly is stale in the Israeli cast of mind.

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Speaker 14: He has been around, as I mentioned, on the national

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Speaker 14: scene since the early nineties they're sick of him, and

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Speaker 14: so he needs a crisis to keep this going. I'm

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Speaker 14: not submitting that a successor, the most likely successor is

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Speaker 14: his predecessor, Tally Bennett. Wouldn't be a conservative hawk, wouldn't

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Speaker 14: be an Israeli hardliner, wouldn't participate perpetuate the war in

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Speaker 14: Gaza in some fashion. I think he would, but there

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Speaker 14: wouldn't be this level of intermingling with the US political system. Netnaw,

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Speaker 14: who is in some senses more interspersed into the American

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Speaker 14: system than you know he is with the Israeli system.

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Speaker 14: And it is this, you know, weird in sessionalist relationship.

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Speaker 14: I mean when when Netyah, who endorsed, addressed Congress many times,

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Speaker 14: Republicans and Democrats both, I look at him like he

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Speaker 14: is more and above of the President of the United States.

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Speaker 14: That is not America first, That is not nationalistic. That

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Speaker 14: is pretty gross, and it should be dismissed.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it is going to be dismissed, because

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Speaker 10: now this is serious.

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Speaker 9: You put all those people in harm's way, You obliterated

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Speaker 9: what was there, what told the packages, and now it's

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Speaker 9: being leaked and you wait to tonight it's going to

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Speaker 9: be a firestorm. And President Trump's dealing with Ukraine, trying

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Speaker 9: to get out of this Ukraine.

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Speaker 10: Mess, and now he's got this on top of it.

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Speaker 10: Got to come back. I mean, there's never a second,

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Speaker 10: never a second.

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Speaker 9: There's not ultimate pressure on him real quickly before he

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Speaker 9: bolt any thoughts on the Ukraine.

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Speaker 10: Zelenski's there, and I think he's actually in a suit.

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Speaker 9: This is the most important we got about a minute

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Speaker 9: and a half, most important NATO meetings since the end

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Speaker 9: of the Cold Warrior thoughts.

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Speaker 14: Well, just off the top, I thought it was humorous

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Speaker 14: that Trump basically said that the Israeli demands were so

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Speaker 14: extreme that he can't wait to a deal of NATO.

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Speaker 14: Who's extreme demands are less extreme? Obviously they are. I

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Speaker 14: think with the Russia Ukraine situation, it exists within the

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Speaker 14: shadow of Iran. I mean, I was in Europe last

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Speaker 14: week or the week before, and like you know, this

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Speaker 14: is basically what people wanted to talk about. And the

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Speaker 14: reality here is if the US got involved into Iran war,

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Speaker 14: the Ukrainians would be thrown into a woodchipper. So the

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Speaker 14: Russians in Iranians are allies. But the European thinking on

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Speaker 14: this frankly is often so blinkered and emotional. If the

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Speaker 14: US put all of his resources into the Iran fight,

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Speaker 14: they don't have. We don't have the material and attention

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Speaker 14: span to do both, and Jelenski would be in big trouble.

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Speaker 14: So I think that's what you see there. And then

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Speaker 14: I know you always trying to link the for the

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Speaker 14: audience to China. I don't know if there's been this

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Speaker 14: report's been covered on this program, but there was a

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Speaker 14: report within the last couple of days of four Chinese

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Speaker 14: ships basically going off radar and disappearing near Iranian you know,

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Speaker 14: land space, and there's all. You know, there's great speculation

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Speaker 14: that if the US got back, if it got pulled

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Speaker 14: into an Israeli war with Iran, that the Chinese would

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Speaker 14: try to turn this into our Ukraine, which is to say, uh,

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Speaker 14: we wouldn't lose, but we we, like Vladimir Putin, would

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Speaker 14: just be drawn into the quagmire in which all of

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Speaker 14: our state capacity was exhausted. And I think that's the

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Speaker 14: danger here, that's the danger of these wars of choice.

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Speaker 14: The Ukraine war is a democrat war of choice, but

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Speaker 14: the Iran war is the Republican.

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Speaker 10: War of choice, like Kurt social media where they go

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Speaker 10: to get you.

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Speaker 14: Sure the magazine, the American Conservative dot com, and my

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Speaker 14: own channel is at Kurt Mills U R T M

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Speaker 14: I L S on X. Appreciate the time, Kirk.

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Speaker 9: Fantastic short commercial break. We're going to talk about the

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Speaker 9: bricks in the world with Philip Patrick.

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Speaker 5: Next. Use your Stephen kb.

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Speaker 10: Okay.

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Speaker 9: Welcome about Philip Patrick. Joins us Philip Firson. We're gonna

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Speaker 9: talk about the bricks in a moment. Give us their

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Speaker 9: assessment that the markets have been I'm not saying this

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Speaker 9: is a yawn, but they've taken this in stride, both

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Speaker 9: in gold and oil in the stock market. Is it

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Speaker 9: because they don't think this is real? They think President

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Speaker 9: Trump sorted it out enough. What's your assessment?

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Speaker 4: I think it was the Iranian response, right. Everyone was

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Speaker 4: sort of waiting to see how the Iranians responded. The

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Speaker 4: big concern was that as they said they were going

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Speaker 4: to strut shut up the straits of war moves which

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Speaker 4: would send oil prices globally skyrocketing by bombing a US

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Speaker 4: base in Qatar. It was a much more measured approach

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Speaker 4: from the Iranians, and I think financial markets welcome that. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: oil price has dropped. I think it was eleven twelve

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Speaker 4: percent in a day. Gold dropped a little bit as well.

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Speaker 4: But again this is short term. This is the market saying, look,

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Speaker 4: it didn't escalate beyond where it needed to be at

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Speaker 4: this point by it.

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Speaker 13: As you were.

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Speaker 4: Discussing earlier, this thing isn't done yet, and we have

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Speaker 4: to see how it's going to escalate.

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Speaker 9: Is are the markets taking in because they also don't

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Speaker 9: seem to be fully factoring in yet. Is that because

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Speaker 9: it's off the front page given everything that's happening in DC.

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Speaker 9: The Big Beautiful Bill. We know, the Big Beautiful Bill

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Speaker 9: markets poorly because of its name. People just think it's

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Speaker 9: a it's a it's a laundry list of things. Right,

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Speaker 9: So the term itself, he's got some negativity to it,

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Speaker 9: not associated with President Trump. But we had ran Paul

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Speaker 9: on this morning, the Senator, and he said, look, you

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Speaker 9: know this thing. He thinks he's going to get to

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Speaker 9: the President's desk by the fourth but he says there's

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Speaker 9: still some big fights. Number one for him is going

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Speaker 9: to be the debt ceiling. He just says, look, if

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Speaker 9: we pass five tree and we're going to go to

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Speaker 9: five tree in pretty quickly. Are the markets not taking

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Speaker 9: the because of everything focused on this war that they're

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Speaker 9: not that they're not calculating in some of the I mean,

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Speaker 9: the spending here is pretty big, and Rod Johnson has

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Speaker 9: not been able to rally enough interest in the town

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Speaker 9: to really have some massive cuts, So you're still going

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Speaker 9: to have these deficits, sir.

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Speaker 4: Look, the markets have a very short attention span, and

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Speaker 4: like you said, I think things right now the focus

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Speaker 4: is on what's happening in the Middle East and how

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Speaker 4: that will escalate and how that will affect international trade.

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Speaker 4: What is being affected is currency markets, right, and this

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Speaker 4: has been started with Biden.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 4: Demand for US dead has started to wane, but it's

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Speaker 4: been escalating since Trump's been in office. And I think

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Speaker 4: sort of the real hope for financial markets was Trump

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Speaker 4: would address deficit spending. They're trying to do it through growth,

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Speaker 4: but this bill, obviously, as we know, increases deficits and

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Speaker 4: it's led to an escalation inded dollarization. I think financial markets,

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Speaker 4: like I said, they've got a short attention span. Once

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Speaker 4: this comes in and gets voted on, we might start

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Speaker 4: to see the markets or financial markets reacting more directly.

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Speaker 9: If this bill passes as roughly it is, will this

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Speaker 9: continue the path for d dollarization put both in Europe

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Speaker 9: and Inesia that'll say, hey, we want to be stuck

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Speaker 9: with as few dollar denominated securities as possible.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's hard for me to say it because, like

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Speaker 4: I said, I support President Trump, and you know, I

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Speaker 4: believe in his ability to grow the economy longer term.

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Speaker 13: But the question has always been time. My answer is yes.

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Speaker 4: Right obviously, if we expand deficits, it makes our debt

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Speaker 4: more attractive at an international level, and it will ultimately

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Speaker 4: accelerate de dollarization longer term. We have to remember what

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Speaker 4: we're banking on here is not guaranteed, and that is

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Speaker 4: economic growth. The one thing that is guaranteed is this

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Speaker 4: additional debt burden as it grows, as the interest the

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Speaker 4: debt grows, as we start to print money to meet

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Speaker 4: debt liability, that's a debt trap and that's not attractive

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Speaker 4: for foreign investors. Factor in sort of weaponization, all the

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Speaker 4: tricks that Biden played. You know, once you fire that bullet,

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Speaker 4: you can't put it back. So it's the perfect storm

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Speaker 4: right now for deed dollarization. I don't think expanding the

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Speaker 4: deficit is going to help our case domestically and at

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Speaker 4: all unfortunately.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Well, when Scott Besson says this is the last

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Speaker 9: shot for a supply side method to solve the financial

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Speaker 9: and economic problems of the country, what he's saying, the

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Speaker 9: debt to deficit I think is closed to six and

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Speaker 9: a half seven percent. He said, you've got to get

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Speaker 9: that down to three. I think Ray Dalio concurs of that.

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Speaker 9: We've been talking about that now for over a year.

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Speaker 9: How Biden didn't doing it at six and a half

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Speaker 9: seven maybe even higher. What Besson and President Trump are

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Speaker 9: doing on this supply side, they are basically betting on

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Speaker 9: or assuming or looking at math in these models. And

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Speaker 9: that's why I think the model's got to be put

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Speaker 9: out more. I think we need more math more backup

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Speaker 9: to these models. They're saying, we're actually through the supply

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Speaker 9: side task cut. We will grow the economy, we will

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Speaker 9: grow GDP at a higher percentage, then we'll grow the

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Speaker 9: debt or the deficit debt and that will pay down.

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Speaker 9: Then the deficit will start coming down because we'll have

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Speaker 9: more tax revenues even at the lower tax structure.

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Speaker 10: Is that essentially the bet we're making collectively here.

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Speaker 13: That is exactly the bet we're making. It is a

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Speaker 13: tough one. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Since the seventies, debt has averaged eight and a half

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Speaker 4: percent growth the year, GDP's average a little over three percent.

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Speaker 4: So you know we would have to massively boost GDP

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Speaker 4: in order for that to happen.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of things. Listen.

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Speaker 4: These guys are smarter than I am, right, And you

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Speaker 4: said putting the modeling forward is a smart thing. I

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Speaker 4: agree with that vehemently. For me, I struggle to see

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Speaker 4: how we do it. You know, I say all the time,

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00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: we're twenty five percent of the world's GDP, We attract

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Speaker 4: sixty percent of the world's capital. We are prime, we

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Speaker 4: are not an emerging market. To grow at this level

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Speaker 4: from where we are is a tough task. I've said

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Speaker 4: it before. There isn't a better team to do it.

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Speaker 4: But you know, without dramatic changes, it's going to be difficult.

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Speaker 4: That's why I think, and again this is not my

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Speaker 4: area of expertise, but this AI race may be crucial here,

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Speaker 4: right because whoever gets there first, I think, can grow exponentially.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things benefiting us. The US has

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00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: incredible natural resources. We're very blessed by geography. Longer term,

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Speaker 4: I'm routing for the US. How this shapes out short

891
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Speaker 4: to medium term is tough, But that's the gamble. That's

892
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Speaker 4: always been the gamble.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Philip, can I hold you just for a minute

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Speaker 9: or two through the break into the second hour, because

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Speaker 9: I do want to get back to this, to the

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Speaker 9: situation of the bricks, and particularly the Chinese finance minister

897
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 9: talking about an alternative right, and now that she has said, Hey,

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Speaker 9: I've met with Lula a couple of times and it

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Speaker 9: sounded like, Hey, Lula's on board whatever we want to do.

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Speaker 9: So we're gonna take a short commercial break. We're gonna

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Speaker 9: leave you with the right stuff.

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Speaker 10: It's that kind of day.

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Speaker 9: It's a hot, miserably hot June day, late afternoon when

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Speaker 9: it really gets hot and lug you here in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 9: in the Imperial Capital. I think one hundred today, close

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Speaker 9: to one hundred, over one hundred tomorrow, miserable feels like

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Speaker 9: a July or August here in the Imperial Capital, Philip Patrick,

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Speaker 9: He's not sweltering here in this seat. He's living large

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Speaker 9: short commercial break. The second hour will be as lit

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Speaker 9: as the first. Stick around, you're in the war room