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Very terms 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.120 apply All State Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:30.640 I'm so. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.040 Why just look at this? This is from the Big Lead, 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.000 a major sports website. What does that say? What does 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:39.960 the article say? 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.480 How tall is nick? 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:41.760 Right? 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.120 Depends who you ask? 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.199 Look at what they tweeted? Man First, I don't know why, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.360 but that picture makes it look like I'm like five 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:53.120 to four you as someone you're almost six to four? 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:53.600 Yeah? 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:54.040 How tall? 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.840 Am about sixty one? 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:00.400 Yeah? Just under six to one? But I didn't care 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.560 about this, But I do care about this. I hate 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.640 that people already thought I was short, and now that 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.560 picture's out there, I look like I'm five to four. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.520 Wild tweeted for the record, I'm five to five on 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.000 a good book, I being wise. Well that's not great. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:21.240 Coward saw it and responded, so happy to see my 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.520 little friend that Nick Wright smile in these as at 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.840 the Big League. They do an investigation and they say 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.840 their research says I'm somewhere from five to seven to 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.080 five eleven. And again, I know I sound like a 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.160 jerk for all our five to seven brothers out there, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.080 and I know I shouldn't care, but I do care, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.840 like legit angry and they just stand up at the 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.360 end of the show. We'll do it back to back. 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.839 That won't help because you're so tall and people won't 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.280 know how tall you are. The problem is, for all 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.360 they know, you're five to ten. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.360 I'm six three guys, I don't like it. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.880 Show Welcome in. It is episode twelve of the What's 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.520 Right with Nick Wright podcast and YouTube show. As I 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.880 ask you every week, please like, rate, subscribe, review, and 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:18.960 check out our continuing series special edition, released every Sunday 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.080 on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. The fifty best 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.480 players of the last fifty years in NBA history. This Sunday, 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.040 we will get to players I think forty three through 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:33.480 forty including an incredibly controversial player makes makes his debut, 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.959 and the single biggest snub from the NBA seventy five 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.040 list makes his debut. That coming out on Sunday. But 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.519 right now, as we always do, we start the show 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.400 by talking about what we're not talking about. So here 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.120 is what did not make today's show. Not on today's 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.600 show is George Carl and Boogie Cousins Twitter view. It's 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.960 gonna make the show a little bit. George Carl is 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.960 the worst. He blew the ninety six finals by not 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.720 letting Gary Payton Gar Michael. He's terrible on Twitter. Don't 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.359 like the guy at all. There you go, it's in there. 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.160 Coach K's grandson leaving Duke. Don't care about that. And 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.560 the match, the latest golf match with Tom Brady, Josh Allen, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.280 Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers. None of that made the show. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.760 There is no jacket rewarded for that, Demonse, It's just 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.240 a charity thing. The only reason we talk about golf 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.320 is if Tiger's involved. However, I will now turn to Demanse, 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.160 who might at some point today vacate that seat for 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.480 a different family member for the first time in the 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.440 twelve episodes. We've done this. What are we starting with today, Demansey? Yep, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.640 as we know you've already started your victory lap with Jolkic. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.080 Isn't too straight to Golden State? Yeah, you clearly don't 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.760 think he's MVP. Yeah, but he's going against the Warriors alone. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:44.320 What's your problem with this guy? 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:45.120 All right? 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.560 You know what, I want to do this once and 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.800 for all, because by the next time we talk, the 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.880 Nuggets might be done. They might already be eliminated from everything. 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.880 So let's just blow out the rest of the rundown demonse. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.560 Sorry about your prep about CP three's legacy in the 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.160 maps to the finals, We're not doing anything. We're just 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.320 going to spend ten minutes right now, and I'm going 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:13.320 to give the kojent final Nikolajokic take because I'm sick 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:17.240 of this being misrepresented and it is. I have the 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:22.360 benefit of knowing with utter certainty, with every fiber of 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:27.080 my being, that history is going to judge this opinion favorable. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.280 And so here's all I've ever said about Niko a 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.440 Yogi over the last couple of years. He is an 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.920 excellent player. No one can deny he is an excellent player. 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.040 I have not denied he is an excellent player. However, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.000 I felt last year that he was being elevated to 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:49.200 a place a step or two above where he actually was. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:54.200 Instead of excellent player, he was league MVP, and last 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.200 year I didn't like it, but I understood it. I 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.200 in fact, last year said he would be second and 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.640 on my ballot. Because Lebron got hurt, Embiid got hurt, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.200 I said I would have Chris Paul first. People wanted 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:10.039 to give to Jokic. My general pushback was not just 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.800 that I thought Chris Paul was better, but league MVPs, 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:18.640 in all of NBA history, with one glaring exception, are 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.960 supposed to terrify their opponents in the postseason. I didn't 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:24.680 feel like Jokic did that. You can call it a 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:28.400 regular season award, but what also is true is the 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.919 way we've been doing it for seventy years in this league. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.800 And Mom, say, you know how much I care about this. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.600 I did a damn recitation of every MVP in order. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:42.080 I think it's the most prestigious professional award in sports. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.640 NBA MVP I think it matters, and when we're doing 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.279 the rankings of players, MVP in top five finishes really 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.880 really matter, and I thought last year Chris Paul deserved it. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.320 Instead Jokic got it. And then a great confluence of events, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:00.280 Chris Paul and Jokic play in the postseason. First of 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.640 Paul's unbelievable they sweep the Nuggets and Jokic gets kicked 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.160 out of the final game. But I dealt, guy who 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.360 I thought should come in second came in first. It happens. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.400 You have bad MVPs. Give me right, Karmelone won one. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.320 He shouldn't have. It happened. But then this year is 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:22.359 where it got truly bat crazy, because this year we 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:27.360 changed all of the rules literally and figuratively for how 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.280 we have done MVP voting since the media has been 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.040 voting for forty years to make an exception for Yokich, 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.760 so nobody that was a sixth seed or worse had 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.400 won MVP except for Russell Westbrook, and we'll get to 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.960 him in a moment. Jokics was the sixth seed all 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.320 year long, and they were like, no, he has to 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.920 be the MVP. And then at the same like, I'll 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.599 give you a great example of why to me it 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.120 had gone so crazy. Phil Simmons, who I have a 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:01.760 lot of respect for voted Yokic MVP. He also said 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.240 on the same podcast that he said he's voting JOKICMVP, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.680 that he thought the Nuggets were the single worst team 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.880 in the Western Conference playoffs. And I'm sitting here saying, guys, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.560 that's never how NBA MVP is worked ever, where you 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.960 could be the now back to back MVP, the best 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.000 player in the league two years in a row, and 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.760 everyone thinks your team stinks. This isn't baseball with Mike Trout. 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.120 You're on the court forty plus minutes, you play both INDs. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.000 And the only response was, look at the advanced numbers. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.560 Look at the advanced numbers. They said, I was an 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.120 idiot if I said, listen, I think there's seven or 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.240 eight guys in this league better than him, still a 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:43.520 top ten player. But if we're if you're asking players, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:47.320 and at some point players' opinions have to matter, who 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.880 scares you in the postseason. I think Giannis's name gets mint. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.560 I think Kawhi when he's healthy, his name gets Mint obviously, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:58.200 Durant obviously, Staph obviously. I feel Lebron. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.960 How scared would those teams be if they were missing 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.600 their second and third best guy. Okay, though, how he 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:08.200 he's not gonna beat the Warriors alone. No, you're right, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.760 he's not gonna beat the Warriors alone. But at the 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.760 very least, first of all, put up. 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:20.080 A good showing. Don't get ejected again. Fewer points, fewer rebounds, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.920 fewer assists, your field goal percentage go down by ten points. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.679 In the postseason, when Russ was the sixty one MVP, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.480 it's a bad MVP, it was a bad vote. But 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.920 that postseason he went thirty seven to twelve and eleven. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.360 He had a fifty point triple double. They won a game, 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.840 and three of their losses were by six, four and 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.000 two points. He at least was competitive. But it's not 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.400 one mv it's a back to back MBB, and a 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.559 back to back MVB should never be an underdog. And 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.000 round one it's never happened. Who. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.559 Yeah, Lebron won back to back MVP two thousand and 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.559 nine and twenty ten. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.160 Everybody gave him the excuse that you know, he to 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:01.400 have anybody. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.960 No, but so first of all, that's not true, and 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.480 second of all, they didn't lose in round one. So 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.040 let's go over guys who have won back to back MVPs, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.440 and we'll go through it. Wilt and Russell did it. Okay, 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.320 that was a thousand years ago. All time great players. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.320 Kareem did it. Guess what. Kaream won a championship before 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.280 he got his second league MVP. After Kareem did it, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.360 Larry Bird won three in a row. He had won 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.640 multiple championships before he got his second MVP. After him, 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:36.240 Magic Johnson did it. Magic Johnson had won multiple championships 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.680 before he got his second MVP. After him, Michael Jordan 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:44.560 did it. Michael Jordan had won a championship before he 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.439 got the year he got his second MVP after Jordan 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.640 did it just once after him. Tim Duncan did it. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:56.240 Tim Duncan had won multiple championships before he got or Win. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.120 He got his second MVP, won a championship in ninety nine, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.720 got his MVP an two and o three after him. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.960 There's Nash. Nash is the bad one. Nash is the 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.959 one that everyone regrets now, and yet they're doing the 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.120 same thing with Jokis. But at least Nash. That team 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.800 won sixty two games and made the conference finals, and 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.800 the next year won fifty some game and made the 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.040 conference finals. They weren't out in round one. Then Lebron 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.160 did it. Lebron, first of all, had made the finals 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.200 before he won a second, before he won any MVPs, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.080 because he made him an O seven. They the first 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.240 year in nine when he won MVP, they lost in 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:36.679 the conference finals in six to Orlando. He averaged thirty eight, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.320 nine and nine in that series, thirty eight, nine and nine, 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.160 and he got trust for losing. The next year he 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.680 won MVP again. He that was the series against Boston 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.679 when they lost in round two, and he was called 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.439 an all time choke artist. They said he quit on 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:54.920 the team in game six. Game six, by the way, 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.880 he had I believe twenty eight, eighteen and twelve, and 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.960 they said he quit. That was his final game with Cleveland. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.679 He then left. So again, let's go the next guy 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.199 to win multi back to back MVP, Steph. He already 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.680 had a championship in the bag when he won a 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.880 second one. And then there was Giannis. Giannis, by the way, 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.200 got crushed for the second year that he won MVP, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.959 they lost in round two to Miami, even though the 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.000 previous here he had carried him in the conference finals. 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:25.040 All of these guys had real championship expectations. No matter 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.400 the supporting cast, none of them were Round one losers, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.760 and the ones who didn't deliver and hadn't delivered got 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:38.080 incredibly criticized for it. I am now being told that 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.040 it is unfair to say, hey, Nikola jokicch be better. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.080 People are like, oh, you're holding him to an unfair standard. 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.840 He's the goddog thirteenth player ever to win back to 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:54.080 back MVP. If we were listing the guys other than 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.800 jokicch and Nash, oh I left out Moses Malone By 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.760 the way on the back to back MVP's list, he 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.640 had carried a team to the NBA Finals before he 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.319 won a second MVP. But if I am listing out 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.240 the worst back to back MVPs ever other than Jokich 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.959 and Nash, the worst one is Moses. The second worst 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:16.199 one is is it Duncan? Might be? Is it Steph? 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.520 I guess THEO we're everyone told me all year I 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.400 was a caveman for not putting Jokic in that tier. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.280 And then he falls on his face and everyone's like, oh, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.720 what do you expect from me? To be better? To 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.320 be better? And people like, oh, well, listen, the Warriors 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:37.920 are the better team. That's why we don't give MVPs 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.360 to six seeds because you're all playing a better team. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.240 The path we're walking is a path that leads to 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.360 why isn't Trey Young in the MVP conversation? Yeah, he 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.560 scored more points than they wanted basketball all year, He 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.560 had more assist than he wanted basketball all year. His 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:57.280 team won mid forties in games. Oh, nobody can blame 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.400 him for them losing their the nine seed. They stink. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:00.960 That's so. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.120 Yeah, is always allowed to be awesome without having to 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.040 be an all time great. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.319 I mean, like he's twenty seven, We let his career 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:08.280 pan out a little bit more. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.000 And the answer to that is yes, if he wasn't 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.880 the back to back MVP. By being the back to 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.760 back MVP, it is demanded that you play like an 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.120 all time great because that is the group you're in. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.200 You are in that and that all I'm doing is 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.120 holding him to the standard that his defenders have claimed 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.600 he's in all year. The most vocal yogic defenders have 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.920 said the following things. And I know we're spending the 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.400 whole first segment on this topic, we're gonna go overtime 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.600 just a little bit. They have said he is the 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.960 greatest passing big man ever. I think de Walden have 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.319 something to say about that. R Vida bonus maybe even 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.160 but fine, give him that. They told me that if 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.800 you if you care about the numbers, he just had 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:58.160 the single greatest individual season in NBA. His player efficiency 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.920 rating the highest ever, one of the highest bpms ever, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.800 the first ever two K, one K point five K guy, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.520 which is not a thing we've ever carrid about before, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:11.240 but with we did, Like so, if I were on 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:18.360 television arguing that, as people were fifteen years ago, that 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.440 Lebron just had the greatest and people weren't arguing this 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.800 the greatest season ever, he would not be allowed to 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:31.280 then lose in Round one and this other thing that 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.000 happens here with Jokic's it's a weird spot where it's like, 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.440 well he doesn't have Jamal Murray and Michael Porter junior. Listen, 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.960 Michael Porter Junior might one day be good. He is 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.360 a great high school prospect. His back injuries. He's had 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.920 a good playoff moment, some bad playoff moments. Jamal Murray 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.000 is a good player, Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.400 are not good enough to be the difference between a 0:14:54.480 --> 0:15:01.560 team being swept in round one and championship favorites. And 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.840 if you are the back to back league MVP with 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:12.400 a mediocre supporting cast, you should be championship favorites. Lebron 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.280 was he didn't deliver, and then he did when he 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.320 went to Miami. But Giannis was, he didn't deliver and 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.600 then he did, Steph was, all the other guys delivered, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.840 and so it's just unbelievable to me. And it's the same. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.120 It's the same. Don't trust your eyes and don't trust 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:33.120 the players. The players show you and tell you that 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.040 they don't fear this guy. And one other thing about 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.800 Jokics this postseason, then we move on. Draymond Green is 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.000 one of the greatest defensive players ever. He's also six seven. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.360 Nikola Jokic is almost seven feet tall. Jokic is like 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.200 six for twenty eight with Draymond guarding in this series, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.720 has a half dozen turnovers and just got kicked out 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.760 of the game because he was so frustrated by it. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.440 I have seen Draymond Green in playoff series against guys 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.640 who are actually in the discussion for best player in 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.880 the league. Saw him against Durant in twenty sixteen before 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.360 Durant joined him. Durant got him, He got Durant, then Durant. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.720 He got Durant at the end in three one comeback. 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.280 I saw him in four finals against Lebron James Lebron 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.680 gott Is. The Warriors won most of them. Lebron got his. 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.040 I saw Draymond against Kawhi Leonard when Kwai was healthy. Yeah, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.080 Kawhi had to work for it. Kawhi gott Is the 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.200 idea that Jokic is that caliber of player, which is 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.280 what he must bean at. And we're like, no, you're 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.640 being too harsh. There is no too harsh. And here's 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.200 the last point. People say all the time, add the MVP. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.200 You know it's an important award, but you know, Shack 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.560 only has one. And I don't know if you mean that. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.880 Shack only as one MDP award and Kobe only has 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.960 won MVP award, and right now Chris Paul has zero 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.960 and Joel Embiid has zero. You know what would have 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.080 fixed that if Steve Nashon equally. Jokic never won him 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.760 because in five second place. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:56.960 The ship. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.600 God, damn, must you talk about this dude man falling 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.520 asleep over here? I mean, he's got to be done 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:06.200 here pretty soon. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.879 I mean we've ended the segment about five minutes first. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.280 And this year it should have been Joel Embiid, if 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.240 you want to make sure everyone gets one, could have 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.639 been his first instead. Joel Embiid, Chris Paul, Shaquille, O'Neil, 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:22.560 Kobe Bryant combined have two MVPs, and Nikola jokicch and 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.240 Steve Nash have four. And I'm the ass for saying 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.200 it's wrong. I'm the burden of proof is not on 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.040 me and the yokicch fans, and then we can wrap up. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.480 It's like trying to prove a negative. If the Nuggets 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.680 won this look we're competitive, or won this series against 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.520 Golden State, they would say, see our guy's amazing. They're 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.280 getting blown off the court, and their answer is, see 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.280 his team stinks. No matter what they were gonna say, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.840 we were right. We rewarded MVPs one way. For forty years, 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.680 it has rewarded the greatest players in league history with 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.280 a with a Nash mistake in Ali Yokas, all right, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.240 I'm done, talking about it forever until next year when 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.280 I'm told, Hi gotta give you have you seen this? 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.359 R gotta give you three in a row and Larry Bird, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.240 Wilton Russell the only guys do it. Gotta give it 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:13.639 to the Will. 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.480 This episode is brought to you by Unstoppable. 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Yeah, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.520 the only guy they gave to that wasn't a championship 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.800 contender was Westbrook and Westbrook. I thought it was a 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.320 bad MVP in real time, but people were amazed by 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.119 the triple double average. But at least Russ then in 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.159 the playoffs showed out. He's like, okay, I was the 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.640 MVP because I averaged a thirty point triple double. Here 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.199 he only played five playoff games that year because they 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.040 lost in five to Houston. And what Russ did, and 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.359 those five playoff games were game one, they got blown 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.440 out by thirty one. He had twenty two, eleven and seven, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.400 and he got crushed the next four games. They lost 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.480 by four, they won by two, they lost by four, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.400 they lost by six. And here's what Russ did. Fifty one, 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:39.040 ten and thirteen in a four point loss, thirty two 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.280 twelve and eleven in a two point win, thirty five 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.719 fourteen and fourteen in a four point loss, and forty 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.840 seven eleven and nine in US six point loss. You 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.800 can't say, well, you know, he should have done more. Now, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.719 it was a bad MVP. He shouldn't given it to him. 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.000 But at least if Jokic was out here doing what 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.200 he did all regular season, it's like he had thirty 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:04.200 eight points on eighteen shots, nine assists and they lost 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.280 a close one. I'd listened to it. Instead, he is 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.000 twenty five points and gets thrown out of the game. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.199 All right, so we finally talk about something different. Oh 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.880 we're yeah, absolutely, we only did twenty minutes on that. Sure, Yeah, 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:16.400 we go on, this is a B block. Are we're 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:17.680 going to start the B block? All right, let's go. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.720 What are we starting with? Sons lost game two to 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.399 New Orleans. Yeah, Devin Booker left the game with a 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.280 hamstring injury, so this is concerning. 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.919 But before d book left New Orleans. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.080 Was hanging in with him at home or on the road. 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.240 Should I say, yeah, is this just one game or 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.639 is this the start of another CP three playoff collapse? 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.199 I don't think Listen, losing to the Pelicans, even if 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.439 Booker never comes back, would be a collapse. The Sun's 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.080 got to be able to get through the series even 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:46.880 if Booker never comes back, and I think they would. 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:53.360 I also think it's worth noting that we never talk 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.280 about this until it happens, but more often than not, 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.280 the playoffs are at least part defined by an inn 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.640 last handful of years, twenty fifteen, Kyrie Irving goes down 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.240 game one of the finals after Kevin Love already went down, 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:13.600 and it changes everything. Twenty sixteen, pretty clean, the biggest 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:16.240 injury is probably Andrew Bogetting Game five of the Finals 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:20.919 twenty seventeen. There weren't any super significant injuries other than 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.840 I guess well, one could argue Kawhi when Zazob put 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.960 his foot underneath him, but I don't think anyone's beating 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.960 that Warriors team either way. Twenty eighteen, Chris Paul. They're 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.640 up three two on Golden Stakes. Christ Paul pulls his hamstring. 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.000 They lose the next two. Twenty nineteen, Katie blows his 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.520 achilles and the rap you know what I mean. That's 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.240 the biggest reason the Raptors won of than Kawi's excellence. 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.680 Twenty twenty was pretty clean, but that's probably because you 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.560 had the stoppage midyear. Guys got healthier, and last year 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.120 there was oh Anthony Davis. Well, Anthony Davis goes They're 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.000