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Very terms 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: apply All State Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. 11 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: I'm so. 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Why just look at this? This is from the Big Lead, 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: a major sports website. What does that say? What does 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: the article say? 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: How tall is nick? 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: Right? 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: Depends who you ask? 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: Look at what they tweeted? Man First, I don't know why, 19 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: but that picture makes it look like I'm like five 20 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: to four you as someone you're almost six to four? 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: How tall? 23 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Am about sixty one? 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Just under six to one? But I didn't care 25 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: about this, But I do care about this. I hate 26 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: that people already thought I was short, and now that 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: picture's out there, I look like I'm five to four. 28 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Wild tweeted for the record, I'm five to five on 29 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: a good book, I being wise. Well that's not great. 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Coward saw it and responded, so happy to see my 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: little friend that Nick Wright smile in these as at 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: the Big League. They do an investigation and they say 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: their research says I'm somewhere from five to seven to 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: five eleven. And again, I know I sound like a 35 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: jerk for all our five to seven brothers out there, 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: and I know I shouldn't care, but I do care, 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: like legit angry and they just stand up at the 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: end of the show. We'll do it back to back. 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 3: That won't help because you're so tall and people won't 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: know how tall you are. The problem is, for all 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: they know, you're five to ten. 42 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: I'm six three guys, I don't like it. 43 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: Show Welcome in. It is episode twelve of the What's 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Right with Nick Wright podcast and YouTube show. As I 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: ask you every week, please like, rate, subscribe, review, and 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: check out our continuing series special edition, released every Sunday 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. The fifty best 48 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: players of the last fifty years in NBA history. This Sunday, 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: we will get to players I think forty three through 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: forty including an incredibly controversial player makes makes his debut, 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: and the single biggest snub from the NBA seventy five 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: list makes his debut. That coming out on Sunday. But 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: right now, as we always do, we start the show 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: by talking about what we're not talking about. So here 55 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 3: is what did not make today's show. Not on today's 56 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: show is George Carl and Boogie Cousins Twitter view. It's 57 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: gonna make the show a little bit. George Carl is 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: the worst. He blew the ninety six finals by not 59 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: letting Gary Payton Gar Michael. He's terrible on Twitter. Don't 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: like the guy at all. There you go, it's in there. 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: Coach K's grandson leaving Duke. Don't care about that. And 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: the match, the latest golf match with Tom Brady, Josh Allen, 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers. None of that made the show. 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: There is no jacket rewarded for that, Demonse, It's just 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: a charity thing. The only reason we talk about golf 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: is if Tiger's involved. However, I will now turn to Demanse, 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: who might at some point today vacate that seat for 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: a different family member for the first time in the 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: twelve episodes. We've done this. What are we starting with today, Demansey? Yep, 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: as we know you've already started your victory lap with Jolkic. 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: Isn't too straight to Golden State? Yeah, you clearly don't 72 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: think he's MVP. Yeah, but he's going against the Warriors alone. 73 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: What's your problem with this guy? 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: All right? 75 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: You know what, I want to do this once and 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: for all, because by the next time we talk, the 77 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: Nuggets might be done. They might already be eliminated from everything. 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: So let's just blow out the rest of the rundown demonse. 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: Sorry about your prep about CP three's legacy in the 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: maps to the finals, We're not doing anything. We're just 81 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: going to spend ten minutes right now, and I'm going 82 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: to give the kojent final Nikolajokic take because I'm sick 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: of this being misrepresented and it is. I have the 84 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: benefit of knowing with utter certainty, with every fiber of 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: my being, that history is going to judge this opinion favorable. 86 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: And so here's all I've ever said about Niko a 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: Yogi over the last couple of years. He is an 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: excellent player. No one can deny he is an excellent player. 89 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: I have not denied he is an excellent player. However, 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: I felt last year that he was being elevated to 91 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: a place a step or two above where he actually was. 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: Instead of excellent player, he was league MVP, and last 93 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: year I didn't like it, but I understood it. I 94 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: in fact, last year said he would be second and 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: on my ballot. Because Lebron got hurt, Embiid got hurt, 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: I said I would have Chris Paul first. People wanted 97 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 3: to give to Jokic. My general pushback was not just 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: that I thought Chris Paul was better, but league MVPs, 99 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: in all of NBA history, with one glaring exception, are 100 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: supposed to terrify their opponents in the postseason. I didn't 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: feel like Jokic did that. You can call it a 102 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: regular season award, but what also is true is the 103 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: way we've been doing it for seventy years in this league. 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: And Mom, say, you know how much I care about this. 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: I did a damn recitation of every MVP in order. 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: I think it's the most prestigious professional award in sports. 107 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: NBA MVP I think it matters, and when we're doing 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: the rankings of players, MVP in top five finishes really 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: really matter, and I thought last year Chris Paul deserved it. 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Instead Jokic got it. And then a great confluence of events, 111 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: Chris Paul and Jokic play in the postseason. First of 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: Paul's unbelievable they sweep the Nuggets and Jokic gets kicked 113 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: out of the final game. But I dealt, guy who 114 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: I thought should come in second came in first. It happens. 115 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: You have bad MVPs. Give me right, Karmelone won one. 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: He shouldn't have. It happened. But then this year is 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 3: where it got truly bat crazy, because this year we 118 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: changed all of the rules literally and figuratively for how 119 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: we have done MVP voting since the media has been 120 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: voting for forty years to make an exception for Yokich, 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: so nobody that was a sixth seed or worse had 122 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: won MVP except for Russell Westbrook, and we'll get to 123 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: him in a moment. Jokics was the sixth seed all 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: year long, and they were like, no, he has to 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: be the MVP. And then at the same like, I'll 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: give you a great example of why to me it 127 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: had gone so crazy. Phil Simmons, who I have a 128 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: lot of respect for voted Yokic MVP. He also said 129 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: on the same podcast that he said he's voting JOKICMVP, 130 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: that he thought the Nuggets were the single worst team 131 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: in the Western Conference playoffs. And I'm sitting here saying, guys, 132 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: that's never how NBA MVP is worked ever, where you 133 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: could be the now back to back MVP, the best 134 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: player in the league two years in a row, and 135 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: everyone thinks your team stinks. This isn't baseball with Mike Trout. 136 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: You're on the court forty plus minutes, you play both INDs. 137 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: And the only response was, look at the advanced numbers. 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: Look at the advanced numbers. They said, I was an 139 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: idiot if I said, listen, I think there's seven or 140 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: eight guys in this league better than him, still a 141 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: top ten player. But if we're if you're asking players, 142 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: and at some point players' opinions have to matter, who 143 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: scares you in the postseason. I think Giannis's name gets mint. 144 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: I think Kawhi when he's healthy, his name gets Mint obviously, 145 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: Durant obviously, Staph obviously. I feel Lebron. 146 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: How scared would those teams be if they were missing 147 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: their second and third best guy. Okay, though, how he 148 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: he's not gonna beat the Warriors alone. No, you're right, 149 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: he's not gonna beat the Warriors alone. But at the 150 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: very least, first of all, put up. 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: A good showing. Don't get ejected again. Fewer points, fewer rebounds, 152 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: fewer assists, your field goal percentage go down by ten points. 153 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 3: In the postseason, when Russ was the sixty one MVP, 154 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: it's a bad MVP, it was a bad vote. But 155 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: that postseason he went thirty seven to twelve and eleven. 156 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: He had a fifty point triple double. They won a game, 157 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 3: and three of their losses were by six, four and 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: two points. He at least was competitive. But it's not 159 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: one mv it's a back to back MBB, and a 160 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: back to back MVB should never be an underdog. And 161 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: round one it's never happened. Who. 162 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, Lebron won back to back MVP two thousand and 163 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: nine and twenty ten. 164 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: Everybody gave him the excuse that you know, he to 165 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: have anybody. 166 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: No, but so first of all, that's not true, and 167 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: second of all, they didn't lose in round one. So 168 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: let's go over guys who have won back to back MVPs, 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: and we'll go through it. Wilt and Russell did it. Okay, 170 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: that was a thousand years ago. All time great players. 171 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: Kareem did it. Guess what. Kaream won a championship before 172 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: he got his second league MVP. After Kareem did it, 173 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: Larry Bird won three in a row. He had won 174 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: multiple championships before he got his second MVP. After him, 175 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: Magic Johnson did it. Magic Johnson had won multiple championships 176 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: before he got his second MVP. After him, Michael Jordan 177 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: did it. Michael Jordan had won a championship before he 178 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: got the year he got his second MVP after Jordan 179 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: did it just once after him. Tim Duncan did it. 180 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: Tim Duncan had won multiple championships before he got or Win. 181 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: He got his second MVP, won a championship in ninety nine, 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: got his MVP an two and o three after him. 183 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: There's Nash. Nash is the bad one. Nash is the 184 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: one that everyone regrets now, and yet they're doing the 185 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: same thing with Jokis. But at least Nash. That team 186 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: won sixty two games and made the conference finals, and 187 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: the next year won fifty some game and made the 188 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: conference finals. They weren't out in round one. Then Lebron 189 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: did it. Lebron, first of all, had made the finals 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: before he won a second, before he won any MVPs, 191 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: because he made him an O seven. They the first 192 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: year in nine when he won MVP, they lost in 193 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: the conference finals in six to Orlando. He averaged thirty eight, 194 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: nine and nine in that series, thirty eight, nine and nine, 195 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: and he got trust for losing. The next year he 196 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: won MVP again. He that was the series against Boston 197 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: when they lost in round two, and he was called 198 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: an all time choke artist. They said he quit on 199 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: the team in game six. Game six, by the way, 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: he had I believe twenty eight, eighteen and twelve, and 201 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: they said he quit. That was his final game with Cleveland. 202 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 3: He then left. So again, let's go the next guy 203 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: to win multi back to back MVP, Steph. He already 204 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: had a championship in the bag when he won a 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: second one. And then there was Giannis. Giannis, by the way, 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: got crushed for the second year that he won MVP, 207 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: they lost in round two to Miami, even though the 208 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: previous here he had carried him in the conference finals. 209 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: All of these guys had real championship expectations. No matter 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: the supporting cast, none of them were Round one losers, 211 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: and the ones who didn't deliver and hadn't delivered got 212 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: incredibly criticized for it. I am now being told that 213 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: it is unfair to say, hey, Nikola jokicch be better. 214 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: People are like, oh, you're holding him to an unfair standard. 215 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: He's the goddog thirteenth player ever to win back to 216 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: back MVP. If we were listing the guys other than 217 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: jokicch and Nash, oh I left out Moses Malone By 218 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: the way on the back to back MVP's list, he 219 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: had carried a team to the NBA Finals before he 220 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: won a second MVP. But if I am listing out 221 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: the worst back to back MVPs ever other than Jokich 222 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: and Nash, the worst one is Moses. The second worst 223 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: one is is it Duncan? Might be? Is it Steph? 224 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: I guess THEO we're everyone told me all year I 225 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: was a caveman for not putting Jokic in that tier. 226 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: And then he falls on his face and everyone's like, oh, 227 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: what do you expect from me? To be better? To 228 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: be better? And people like, oh, well, listen, the Warriors 229 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: are the better team. That's why we don't give MVPs 230 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: to six seeds because you're all playing a better team. 231 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 3: The path we're walking is a path that leads to 232 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: why isn't Trey Young in the MVP conversation? Yeah, he 233 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: scored more points than they wanted basketball all year, He 234 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: had more assist than he wanted basketball all year. His 235 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: team won mid forties in games. Oh, nobody can blame 236 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: him for them losing their the nine seed. They stink. 237 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: That's so. 238 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, is always allowed to be awesome without having to 239 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: be an all time great. 240 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 2: I mean, like he's twenty seven, We let his career 241 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: pan out a little bit more. 242 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: And the answer to that is yes, if he wasn't 243 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: the back to back MVP. By being the back to 244 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: back MVP, it is demanded that you play like an 245 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: all time great because that is the group you're in. 246 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: You are in that and that all I'm doing is 247 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: holding him to the standard that his defenders have claimed 248 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: he's in all year. The most vocal yogic defenders have 249 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: said the following things. And I know we're spending the 250 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: whole first segment on this topic, we're gonna go overtime 251 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: just a little bit. They have said he is the 252 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: greatest passing big man ever. I think de Walden have 253 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: something to say about that. R Vida bonus maybe even 254 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: but fine, give him that. They told me that if 255 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: you if you care about the numbers, he just had 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: the single greatest individual season in NBA. His player efficiency 257 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: rating the highest ever, one of the highest bpms ever, 258 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: the first ever two K, one K point five K guy, 259 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: which is not a thing we've ever carrid about before, 260 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: but with we did, Like so, if I were on 261 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: television arguing that, as people were fifteen years ago, that 262 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: Lebron just had the greatest and people weren't arguing this 263 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: the greatest season ever, he would not be allowed to 264 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: then lose in Round one and this other thing that 265 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: happens here with Jokic's it's a weird spot where it's like, 266 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: well he doesn't have Jamal Murray and Michael Porter junior. Listen, 267 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior might one day be good. He is 268 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: a great high school prospect. His back injuries. He's had 269 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: a good playoff moment, some bad playoff moments. Jamal Murray 270 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: is a good player, Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior 271 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: are not good enough to be the difference between a 272 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: team being swept in round one and championship favorites. And 273 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: if you are the back to back league MVP with 274 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: a mediocre supporting cast, you should be championship favorites. Lebron 275 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: was he didn't deliver, and then he did when he 276 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: went to Miami. But Giannis was, he didn't deliver and 277 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: then he did, Steph was, all the other guys delivered, 278 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: and so it's just unbelievable to me. And it's the same. 279 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: It's the same. Don't trust your eyes and don't trust 280 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: the players. The players show you and tell you that 281 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: they don't fear this guy. And one other thing about 282 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: Jokics this postseason, then we move on. Draymond Green is 283 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: one of the greatest defensive players ever. He's also six seven. 284 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic is almost seven feet tall. Jokic is like 285 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: six for twenty eight with Draymond guarding in this series, 286 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: has a half dozen turnovers and just got kicked out 287 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: of the game because he was so frustrated by it. 288 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: I have seen Draymond Green in playoff series against guys 289 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: who are actually in the discussion for best player in 290 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: the league. Saw him against Durant in twenty sixteen before 291 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: Durant joined him. Durant got him, He got Durant, then Durant. 292 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: He got Durant at the end in three one comeback. 293 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: I saw him in four finals against Lebron James Lebron 294 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: gott Is. The Warriors won most of them. Lebron got his. 295 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: I saw Draymond against Kawhi Leonard when Kwai was healthy. Yeah, 296 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: Kawhi had to work for it. Kawhi gott Is the 297 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: idea that Jokic is that caliber of player, which is 298 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: what he must bean at. And we're like, no, you're 299 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: being too harsh. There is no too harsh. And here's 300 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: the last point. People say all the time, add the MVP. 301 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: You know it's an important award, but you know, Shack 302 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: only has one. And I don't know if you mean that. 303 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: Shack only as one MDP award and Kobe only has 304 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: won MVP award, and right now Chris Paul has zero 305 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: and Joel Embiid has zero. You know what would have 306 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: fixed that if Steve Nashon equally. Jokic never won him 307 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: because in five second place. 308 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: The ship. 309 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: God, damn, must you talk about this dude man falling 310 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: asleep over here? I mean, he's got to be done 311 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: here pretty soon. 312 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: I mean we've ended the segment about five minutes first. 313 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: And this year it should have been Joel Embiid, if 314 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: you want to make sure everyone gets one, could have 315 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 3: been his first instead. Joel Embiid, Chris Paul, Shaquille, O'Neil, 316 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant combined have two MVPs, and Nikola jokicch and 317 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: Steve Nash have four. And I'm the ass for saying 318 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: it's wrong. I'm the burden of proof is not on 319 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: me and the yokicch fans, and then we can wrap up. 320 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: It's like trying to prove a negative. If the Nuggets 321 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 3: won this look we're competitive, or won this series against 322 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Golden State, they would say, see our guy's amazing. They're 323 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: getting blown off the court, and their answer is, see 324 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: his team stinks. No matter what they were gonna say, 325 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: we were right. We rewarded MVPs one way. For forty years, 326 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: it has rewarded the greatest players in league history with 327 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: a with a Nash mistake in Ali Yokas, all right, 328 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: I'm done, talking about it forever until next year when 329 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm told, Hi gotta give you have you seen this? 330 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 3: R gotta give you three in a row and Larry Bird, 331 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: Wilton Russell the only guys do it. Gotta give it 332 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: to the Will. 333 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 6: This episode is brought to you by Unstoppable. 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Watch Unstoppable now exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. 341 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: I didn't know Steve Nash runner over Kobe and Shack. 342 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: That's actually kind of insane. 343 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: When at least Nash's team was a championship continent. Yeah, 344 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: the only guy they gave to that wasn't a championship 345 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: contender was Westbrook and Westbrook. I thought it was a 346 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 3: bad MVP in real time, but people were amazed by 347 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: the triple double average. But at least Russ then in 348 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 3: the playoffs showed out. He's like, okay, I was the 349 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: MVP because I averaged a thirty point triple double. Here 350 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: he only played five playoff games that year because they 351 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: lost in five to Houston. And what Russ did, and 352 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: those five playoff games were game one, they got blown 353 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: out by thirty one. He had twenty two, eleven and seven, 354 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: and he got crushed the next four games. They lost 355 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: by four, they won by two, they lost by four, 356 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: they lost by six. And here's what Russ did. Fifty one, 357 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: ten and thirteen in a four point loss, thirty two 358 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: twelve and eleven in a two point win, thirty five 359 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 3: fourteen and fourteen in a four point loss, and forty 360 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: seven eleven and nine in US six point loss. You 361 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: can't say, well, you know, he should have done more. Now, 362 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 3: it was a bad MVP. He shouldn't given it to him. 363 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: But at least if Jokic was out here doing what 364 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: he did all regular season, it's like he had thirty 365 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: eight points on eighteen shots, nine assists and they lost 366 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: a close one. I'd listened to it. Instead, he is 367 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: twenty five points and gets thrown out of the game. 368 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 7: All right, so we finally talk about something different. Oh 369 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 7: we're yeah, absolutely, we only did twenty minutes on that. Sure, Yeah, 370 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 7: we go on, this is a B block. Are we're 371 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 7: going to start the B block? All right, let's go. 372 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 7: What are we starting with? Sons lost game two to 373 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 7: New Orleans. Yeah, Devin Booker left the game with a 374 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 7: hamstring injury, so this is concerning. 375 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: But before d book left New Orleans. 376 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: Was hanging in with him at home or on the road. 377 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 4: Should I say, yeah, is this just one game or 378 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 4: is this the start of another CP three playoff collapse? 379 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 3: I don't think Listen, losing to the Pelicans, even if 380 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 3: Booker never comes back, would be a collapse. The Sun's 381 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: got to be able to get through the series even 382 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: if Booker never comes back, and I think they would. 383 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: I also think it's worth noting that we never talk 384 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: about this until it happens, but more often than not, 385 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: the playoffs are at least part defined by an inn 386 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: last handful of years, twenty fifteen, Kyrie Irving goes down 387 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: game one of the finals after Kevin Love already went down, 388 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: and it changes everything. Twenty sixteen, pretty clean, the biggest 389 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: injury is probably Andrew Bogetting Game five of the Finals 390 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. There weren't any super significant injuries other than 391 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: I guess well, one could argue Kawhi when Zazob put 392 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: his foot underneath him, but I don't think anyone's beating 393 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: that Warriors team either way. Twenty eighteen, Chris Paul. They're 394 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: up three two on Golden Stakes. Christ Paul pulls his hamstring. 395 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: They lose the next two. Twenty nineteen, Katie blows his 396 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: achilles and the rap you know what I mean. That's 397 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: the biggest reason the Raptors won of than Kawi's excellence. 398 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty was pretty clean, but that's probably because you 399 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: had the stoppage midyear. Guys got healthier, and last year 400 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 3: there was oh Anthony Davis. Well, Anthony Davis goes They're 401 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: up to one on the Suns in round one, dominating 402 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 3: the series. Anthony Davis goes down, and then the Lakers 403 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: never went again. They're never the same Sun go to 404 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: the finals, So this happens. And I think the two 405 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: best players in the Western Conference this year were not 406 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 3: Nikola Jokic, but Luka Doncic and Devin Booker and Luca 407 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: got hurt in Game eighty two, and Booker got hurt 408 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: in the second game of the playoffs, so you do 409 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: have to you have to be able to overcome that 410 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: in round one and the MAVs. You know, it's tougher 411 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: for the MAVs because they're not a great team. They 412 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: have a great player. But I believe the Suns will 413 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: still handle the Pelicans. What's most interesting to me is 414 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: does this raise or less than the likelihood that we 415 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: maybe see zi Zion back in New Orleans? Can he 416 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: give them fifteen minutes? I don't know, but I think 417 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: the Sun should be fine. But the Suns need Booker 418 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: fully healthy to deal with the mAbs in round two. 419 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: I don't think they can beat the MAVs in round 420 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: two without Booker fully healthy. You know, I think the 421 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: MAVs are gonna win. Are Oh, Scott Foster's in the show? 422 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: Tell me CP three has lost fourteen straight playoff games 423 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: officiated by Scott Foster. 424 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is this a coincidence? Okay? So I want to 425 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: be very careful here because I don't want to get sued. 426 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: But here is what we know, and I don't know 427 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: why No one talks about this, and I don't know 428 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 3: why the NBA looked the other way. The NBA fifteen 429 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: years ago had a true scamp. There was a referee 430 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: named Tim Doneghe who was betting on games. Convicted of this. 431 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 3: Nobody doubts that he denied. He doesn't deny it now. 432 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: He'll deny certain aspects of it. But they had a 433 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: crooked run. He said, I wasn't swinging outcomes. I was 434 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: just swinging totals. But regardless during the time period, Google 435 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: This America, pause the podcast in Google Scott Foster Tim 436 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: Doneghie phone calls. I'll do it right now and I 437 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: will read you the first result again because I don't 438 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: want to get sued on this, but this is it's 439 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: amazing that this is not discussed. The record show Doneghie 440 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: placed one one hundred and thirty four calls to refereen 441 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: Scott Foster, more than the one hundred and twenty six 442 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: calls Doneghie made to his bookie between October of six 443 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: and April of seven, the period during which he has 444 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: confessed to betting on games or passing on game information 445 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: to gamblers. So he had a ref that we know 446 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 3: is crooked who seemed to amazingly all the time called 447 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: this other ref who was also refing games. That ref 448 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: is still reping games. He's a well respected ref, which 449 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 3: is maybe why no one talks about this. He also, 450 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: oddly enough, fourteen straight times that he has officiated the 451 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: game involving Chris Paul, which crosses multiple teams. Chris has 452 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: played for Chriss team has lost. Hey, I don't love 453 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: how it smells. Is I guess my point on this? 454 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: I can't prove anything. And again I think I'm clean there. 455 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: But the Doneghie Foster thing always struck me as how 456 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: is he still refereeing? And now that fifteen years later 457 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: that he seems to have some bias against Chris Paul 458 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: and they've lost fourteen in a row. It strikes me, 459 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: is at least a yeah, it gives me a little 460 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: bit of pause. All right, let's have fun. Let's play 461 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: a little two rights, one wrong? What are we doing first? 462 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 3: Two wrongs one right? Two wrongs one right? All right? 463 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Well I already got that one wrong? All right? What 464 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: are we doing first? 465 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 2: Kyrie's Vitega five for his behavior in Boston is appropriate? 466 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: Too harsh or not harsh enough? 467 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: No? I think it's right. I think that they I 468 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: think fifty k is the mosture allowed to find a 469 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: player for an individual act like this, right. I I 470 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: don't have a general problem with players going back at 471 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: fans as long on a moral ground, as long as 472 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: they understand they are going to be held to a 473 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: different standard than the fans, Like the fans aren't going 474 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: to get in trouble at work, but they are at work. 475 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: And what I don't love from Kyrie on this was 476 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: is what he was saying after the fact. What are 477 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: you saying after the fact, Like what about the hostility? 478 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: What do you mean who says it was hostile? But 479 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: not just that the idea The Boston fans are particularly 480 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: harsh on Kyrie. I get that, but there have been 481 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: plenty of fan bases that have gone after individual star 482 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,239 Speaker 3: players over the years, and most guys recognize as much 483 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 3: as they want to go back at them, they can't, 484 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: And if they do, that's fine. I don't see Kyrie 485 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 3: complaining about the fine. I am very interested. We were 486 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: recording this before game two. I'm interested in what happens 487 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: if he does it again. Because you think you don't 488 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: think it's on the board that he does it again. 489 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I'd be amazed if he did, but 490 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: I didn't think I. 491 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: Mean, if he does it again, I wonder if they 492 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they would suspend him. But the money, 493 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to matter that much. So 494 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm very curious to see to and you guys will 495 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: have already seen it by the time you're hearing this. 496 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 3: All right, what's next? 497 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: The books say they're not worried about the Tom Brady 498 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: and Dolphins rumors. Yeah, having said that after this season, 499 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: Tom Brady will retire, re sign with Tampa Bay, or 500 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: own and play for Miami. 501 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: All Right, the first two are zero percent after Tom 502 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: Brady is not retiring anytime soon, and I don't think 503 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: there's really any chance he resigns with camp I think 504 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: he knows they're done. So my answer would be the 505 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: third one. But I just don't know if it'll be 506 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: my aunt. I don't know if he's going to go 507 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 3: to Miami, But like, what, well, try to be an 508 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: ownership part of any team or go play What if 509 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: San Francisco the team he wanted to play four years ago? 510 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: What if Trey Lance doesn't work out like Brady's going 511 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: to be a true free agent where he can go 512 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: anywhere he wants. So I believe Brady is going to 513 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: keep playing for years and years. I don't believe it's 514 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: going to be in Tampa. I'm not certain it's gonna 515 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: be Miami. The other possibility, I don't think it's likely. 516 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: But what if Tua balls out this year? Mine was like, 517 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: we've got our guy, he's young, he was our top 518 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: five pick. I don't think that's gonna happen, but I don't. 519 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: We can't Tom Brady at the end of the day. 520 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: No, that is true. So maybe they would just move 521 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: on from him. But I think Miami there was a 522 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: lot of things going into it that made it right 523 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: for him this offseason that won't necessarily be right for 524 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: him next off season. All Right, what's next? 525 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 2: Okay, Jordan Poole and Tyreese Maxie are zero future stars, 526 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: one future star for two future stars. 527 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: All Right, So I'm very confident in Maxie and I 528 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: think Pool is in the best situation possible. If you're 529 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: going to be a perimeter scorer shooter. What is a 530 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: better you know, cauldron to learn in than the Warriors 531 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: with step and play. MAXI was a five star kid 532 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: coming out of high school, top ten pick college is 533 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: one of your college and go the way people hope 534 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: he would. So he fell in the draft, but he 535 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: is a star, so I believe. So. I don't think 536 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: I either will ever be superstars. I don't think either 537 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 3: will people get throw around superstar a little too lightly? 538 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: MVP Candid, he's looking nice. I think I think his 539 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: ceiling is all star, and I think Tyree's Maxi ceiling 540 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: is all star. So like I think for both of them, 541 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: the absolute ceiling is a This isn't a perfect cup 542 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: but a Donovan Mitchell type of player, you know what 543 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: I mean? Like the could be the best player on 544 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: a team. But if he is the best player on 545 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: a team, you can't win a title. You're in really 546 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: good shape if he's your second best guy. The interesting 547 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: thing is, is Maxi already the six or second best guy? 548 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: With the way Harden's been, he might already be their 549 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: second best guy? All right, what's last? Uh? 550 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: Cooper Cupp doesn't care about having the largest wide receiver contract. Yeah, 551 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: he is a. 552 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: Team player, a bad negotiator or is he bluffing? Yeah? 553 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: I think he's bluffing. 554 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 2: I see it. 555 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: Listen, the media loves running with the story of particularly 556 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: how do I put this gently players that look like 557 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup that they are just selfless team first, don't 558 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: care about the money. They play for free if you 559 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: would let them. See just had one of the greatest 560 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: wide receiver seasons ever. His team won the Super Bowl, 561 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: and they won the super Bowl because on the final 562 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: possession they finally started going to him and he won 563 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: him the super Bowl. He's been underpaid. We are also 564 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: living a world where the wide receiver market is exploding 565 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: to unprecedented levels. He certainly has a case that he 566 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: is the best receiver in football, and the best receivers 567 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: in football now make almost thirty million dollars. Now, do 568 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: I think there's a chance because they like la I 569 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: think Do I think he is going to force the 570 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: hand of I need to be the highest paid ever, 571 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think just like Mahomes, by the way, 572 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: that's a thing. 573 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: They just want to this point, they just want to 574 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: be the highest paid in their position. 575 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: Ever. Oh that's why it's always how it works. Like 576 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: the next guy, like the agent starts the negotiation with 577 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: the team as okay, the highest paid is Tyreek kill. 578 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: So my guy needs the wociation starts at a dollar 579 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: more guaranteed and a dollar more total. That way, because 580 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 3: the agent wants to be able to say I got 581 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: a record break in the contract the player, and so 582 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: that makes me okay. I was thinking of it. 583 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: And like the wide receivers, the wide receivers had not 584 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: the age. 585 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: No, that's and that's the Tyreek kill thing. First the 586 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: DeVante Adams, then the Tyreek kill thing screwed up the 587 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: wide receiver market for a lot of teams, like Davonte 588 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: getting the deal he got. I think that's one of 589 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: the reasons the Chiefs ended up having to trade Tyreek 590 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: because they were going to give Tyreek a new contract, 591 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 3: but then Devonte's dual was so off the charts they 592 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: didn't have to top that. So do I think Cooper 593 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: cups going to make them? You sometimes do get like 594 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: the Chiefs got with Mahomes, a bit of a just 595 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl, want to keep things together discount, right, 596 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: But that discount doesn't mean it's significant. It means like 597 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: eight percent. It means like instead of making twenty nine 598 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: million a year, I could see him making twenty seven 599 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: million a year. So I think for the most part 600 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: he's bluffing. I believe, however, and I not blumving on this. 601 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: We have a very special guest, our first guest, Joan. 602 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: It's not Lil Wayne, but he will be on the podcast. 603 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: He just told me so, a very special guest joining 604 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 3: us to finish up the show. That's next War Truck. 605 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: When it comes to towing, seeing is believing. That's why 606 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 5: Chevy Truck's advanced camera technology offers up to eight available 607 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: cameras for fourteen unique views, so you can focus on 608 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: the view that really matters. Chevrolet Together, let's drive. Learn 609 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 5: more about Chevy Truck's at Chevy dot com Safety. Your 610 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 5: driver assistance features are no substitute for the driver's responsibility 611 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 5: to operate the vehicle in a safe manner. With the 612 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: vehicle owner's manual for important future limitations and information. 613 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: Okay, you got any warrants or anything you gotta worry about, 614 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: You're gonna show up. I have several. That's why I figured, Uh, 615 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: you just want to get started. 616 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 5: Go ahead, all right? 617 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: So welcome back in in my son's place now instead 618 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: of demands is none other than my grandfather in law, 619 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: mister Jones. Mister Jones, granddaddy, I see how are you? 620 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: I'm doing good? So I got a question for you. 621 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: When you first met me fourteen years ago? Did you 622 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: ever think you'd be sitting here doing a little YouTube 623 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: show with your old grandson? Nick? Right answered no, no, 624 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 3: what did? Can I tell the story of when we 625 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: first met? Okay, do you remember? 626 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: Cool? 627 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: Oh you remember? So I came to Sacramento. Yes, and Danielle, 628 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 3: your granddaughter, told me we need to go see grandmother 629 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: and grandfather and we need to get there early. So 630 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: we got there at like seven thirty in the morning, 631 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: and grandmother was cooking, and I came in the kitchen 632 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: and you know, I talk loudly. Would you agree with that? Indeed? 633 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: And we hadn't seen you yet, And then you came 634 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: out of like a bathroom, the bathroom, that's correct. And 635 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 3: how would you describe your clothing situation? I will still 636 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: get Yeah, yeah, you were you were I think, shirtless 637 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: and coming out. And do you remember what you said 638 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 3: to me? Who held this white boy in the house? 639 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 3: And you actually said, who is this John brown white 640 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: boy making all this noise in the house? Yeah, that 641 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: is exactly what happened then, And I introduced myself, and 642 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: then you said, I'll be right back, and then you 643 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: went back to your room and you got dressed, and 644 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: then you asked me a question, and it was about insurance. 645 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: Do you remember that part of it? Okay, you tell, 646 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: you can tell the audience of online. I had just 647 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 3: met him. Danielle and I had been together for sick 648 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: seven months, but we knew we were getting married, and 649 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: so I really wanted to impress her grandparents. So her grandfather, 650 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: who's always been, you know, an imposing figure, but this 651 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: fifteen years ago, so you were you know, you were 652 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: in your prime. You're in the mid seventies fifteen years ago, 653 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: so you're even more of an imposing figure. You say, uh, 654 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: do you have life insurance? You remember that? Okay, well 655 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: you do? Yeah. Grandmother sitting over there and remember said 656 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 3: you said, do you have life insurance? And I said, yes, sir, 657 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: I do. And then you said, is my granddaughter a beneficiary? 658 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 3: And I said, yes she is, which I don't even 659 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 3: know if it was true, and you said perfect. I'll 660 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: be right back, and you called me outside, and you 661 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: had a ladder up against the side of your house 662 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: and giant hedge clippers and do you remember what you 663 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: made me do? Yeah? What what did you make me do? 664 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 3: Grew up the ladder in pim Trie. Yeah, their direct 665 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 3: TV wasn't working, so he had me climb the ladder 666 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 3: in the most unsafe fashioned imaginable with these giant hedge clippers. Wait, 667 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: are you leaving us? You can't leave it, You can't 668 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: leave yet, the most unsafe fashion possible to trim the tree. 669 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: But now, oh, he's fixing the mic. But now, let's 670 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 3: be honest. Fifteen years later, I'm probably your favorite non 671 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: blood relative. Correct correct? 672 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 8: Oh, yes, Oh, that's going to cause a lot of 673 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 8: drama Sacramento. Did you ever I mean, since your days 674 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 8: in the military, have you ever had this much affection 675 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 8: for as you put a white one? No, no, yeah 676 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 8: it probably didn't see that coming. No, this is one 677 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 8: of the greatest people I've ever known. He has been 678 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 8: how long you guys been married? Sixty close to sixty. 679 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: Fifty nine years, ninety one years, young mister Abram Jones, granddaddy, 680 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate it. Good to see you. She's 681 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: on the life insurance? Now? Am I on yours? Is 682 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 3: a better question? All right, We'll see you guys. Next 683 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 3: note about