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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM On

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, we have Richard Lewis with us tonight, the

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Speaker 1: Paranormal Christian and Richard, the biggest reason you are here

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Speaker 1: tonight is to tell us the reason for tonight and

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Speaker 1: what it's all. Oh yeah, Connie, it's it's such a

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Speaker 1: magical night, you know, and it's in Christmas Is it's

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Speaker 1: for everyone, you know, and in Santa Claus and the

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Speaker 1: classic stories of Saint Nicholas going back for so many years.

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Speaker 1: But of course the most important thing of all is

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Speaker 1: the birth of the Christ Child, which you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not just something that started with the birth of Jesus

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Speaker 1: of Nazares, because there were these prophecies that were told

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Speaker 1: of the birth. And I always like to point these

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Speaker 1: out because you know, this was something that was known

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Speaker 1: about long before it ever happened, hundreds of years before

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Speaker 1: it happened. So you know, I've picked out a few

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Speaker 1: of the more prominent Old Testament prophecies from the from

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Speaker 1: the Torah, the Hebrew Bible that predicted the Christ Child.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I'd like to share a couple of

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Speaker 1: them with you if you like. And it just kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, paints the picture, and then I also

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Speaker 1: pulled out the actual Christmas story from the Bible. It's

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Speaker 1: in two spots. A lot of people are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: where can we find the Christmas story in the Bible? Well,

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Speaker 1: I actually have those pulled out for you, So sometime

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Speaker 1: during the course of the nine I'd be happy to

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Speaker 1: share that as well. Yeah. No, absolutely, So, Now what

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Speaker 1: you're going to do is you're okay, so the prophecy

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Speaker 1: of what was to come up tonight is what you're

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Speaker 1: going to share. Well. Yeah, So, first of all, the

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Speaker 1: Star of Bethlehem is something that really fascinates people, and

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to share my thoughts on what I think

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Speaker 1: it is. There's a lot of different thoughts about that,

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Speaker 1: but we actually see a hint of that as well

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Speaker 1: as the property of Jesus. And the Book of Numbers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: numbers twenty four and seventeen says I see him, but

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Speaker 1: not now. I behold him, but not near. A star

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Speaker 1: shall come out of Jacob, A scepter shall rise out

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Speaker 1: of Israel. Now this is from Numbers. This is the

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Speaker 1: fourth book of the Hebrew Vival or the Torah, what

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Speaker 1: we Christians call the Old Testament. Now this book was

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Speaker 1: completed at least by the fifth century BC, and it's

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Speaker 1: perhaps even much older than that. So this is really

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Speaker 1: amazing when you think about how many many many years,

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Speaker 1: the hundreds of years before the birth of Christ. So

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Speaker 1: that's a really good one. And another one comes from

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Speaker 1: the Book of Isaiah, which was compiled some seven hundred

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Speaker 1: years before the birth of Christ. And in Isaiah seven,

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Speaker 1: verse fourteen, it says, therefore the Lord himself will give

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Speaker 1: you a sign. Behold, the Virgin shall conceive and bear

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Speaker 1: a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel. And now

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Speaker 1: that's another one too. That's interesting. And Matthew validates Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: as the name of Christ. So some people say, well,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, it wasn't his name Jesus. Jesus was

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Speaker 1: Jesus of Nazareth, right, And actually Jesus was a common name,

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Speaker 1: you know. It's it's yes, you are, and it means

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Speaker 1: it's well, it's taken from Joshua's the same name as Joshua,

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Speaker 1: but it means you always saved, you see, And that's

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel's who he is. It means God with us so

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Speaker 1: you know, one is like basically one is the title

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Speaker 1: couple of very interesting predictions for the Christ Child and

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Speaker 1: this very special Christmas Eve night. On this night, it's

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Speaker 1: like the whole world stopped. This was a time when

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Speaker 1: prophets aren't minor as in less important. It just means

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Speaker 1: the their books are shorter. But this was written between

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Speaker 1: we know that Jesus of Nazareth is a historical person,

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Speaker 1: few scholars anymore that doubt the veracity of Jesus Christ,

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Speaker 1: And when you look at these prophecies, so many prophecies

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Speaker 1: that this is the one, you know, Isaiah. Back to

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Speaker 1: it's also if you actually look at this verse, is

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Speaker 1: David was Jesse's son, and David Jesus is the son

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Speaker 1: not Jesse. The roots came before Jesse, you see. And

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Speaker 1: that's where Christ comes from because you know, as in

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Speaker 1: in John Want It says, you know, in the beginning

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Speaker 1: So tell us about the night. Tell us about the night.

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Speaker 1: So Mary, Joseph, we've got the Nativity scene. Describe all

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Speaker 1: all goes together? Oh yeah? So um And by the way,

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Speaker 1: you on speaker? I'm on a I've got a microphone.

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Speaker 1: just sound like you were kind of on a speaker,

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Speaker 1: we can try that. Yeah, you're kind of cutting out

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Speaker 1: phone regularly. Yeah, that'd be great, thank you. I am

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Speaker 1: going to regular mode. There we go, mister broadcaster. You

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Speaker 1: ma'am perfect. Thank you. You sound so much better. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: There are some of the magic of the season right there,

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Speaker 1: want to know about tonight, well, um, yeah, it's very interesting. Um.

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Speaker 1: they're astrologers. Um, they're astronomers as well as astrologers. You know,

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Speaker 1: again when we hear the three wise men? Was it three?

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Speaker 1: And why was it three? Did that mean anything? That

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Speaker 1: there were there were three gifts that were that were

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