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Speaker 1: On your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He's Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 2: it is time for the Fantasy Football Focus. Alrighty, and

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Speaker 2: I just mentioned we're just talking. You mentioned a good

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Speaker 2: band name that you had thought of. How about Wave

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Speaker 2: the waiver wire pickups?

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Speaker 3: What a kind of what do they play? I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of thinking like a petty field. They can play just

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Speaker 3: about anything. You can take it up. Yeah, you gotta

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Speaker 3: be virtual. Did we pick defenses that are good to

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Speaker 3: stream this year? I think that was a Monday thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a Tuesday all right. I don't have the waiver

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Speaker 3: pickups here. I thought we've missed it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So at quarterback this week, Derek Cars only owned in

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Speaker 2: thirty four percent leagues.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be owned in like all at this

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Speaker 3: pointn't he still.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't run, doesn't run that hasn't put up big yardage numbers.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna throw time. He's not gonna throw two

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Speaker 2: or three touchdowns every week. If I owned him, I

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Speaker 2: try to trade him. Yeah, that's kind of my point,

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Speaker 2: Like this is how you come up. Yeah, yeah, especially

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Speaker 2: if you're I mean he's probably already owned in in

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Speaker 2: the super is. Yeah, Gino Smith's owned in thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: He should be. He does run a little bit, and

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Speaker 3: he runs a little bit, he puts up big numbers.

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Speaker 3: He's won of the few three hundred yard passers. I

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Speaker 3: think he's a really underrated player too. He's got three

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Speaker 3: good weapons. Yeah, now he should be in every league.

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold like, I'm thinking, like all these guys I

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Speaker 3: want over like Stafford at this point. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Guys that.

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Speaker 2: Were clearly you got some team if you have Jordan

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Speaker 2: Love or Tua right now we're Stafford.

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Speaker 3: You're like, I can't play him that, I can't play

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Speaker 3: him anymore, right, And there's a couple of quarterbacks are

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Speaker 3: drying up quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Justin Field's still available in a lot of leagues.

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Speaker 2: We know he's going to start again this week.

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Speaker 3: Just from a fantasy perspective, he couldn't have gotten more

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Speaker 3: short changed for the way he's been used for two

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Speaker 3: weeks in a row. You know, like he's going to

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Speaker 3: score touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: If he completes the fifty one yard pass.

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Speaker 3: The pickings.

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Speaker 2: People are talking about his game last week much differently

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Speaker 2: than what they No doubt he it was. It was

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Speaker 2: a great pass on, it was a great play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but it adds fifty more yards to his total. They

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Speaker 2: probably score another touchdown there.

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Speaker 3: And then the Pickings touchdown that came back. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: like he's his fantasy background is way too strong. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I have love right now in our league,

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Speaker 2: and I picked Fields up, and like who you're debating,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to play him again, Like I could

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Speaker 2: pick up Darnold or car But I'm like Ion Roll Fields.

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Speaker 3: I mean, fifty yards rushing goes a long way, and

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Speaker 3: he's almost guaranteed that everything.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even last week, he's still got eight carries. Now,

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Speaker 2: it only went for like thirty two yards, but he

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Speaker 2: still got eight carries exactly. He's going to break one

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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Like, if you just look the

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Speaker 3: real fantasy nerds that really study the usage and say

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Speaker 3: you should have this many expected points, he's like wable that,

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Speaker 3: and they usually just correct itself because they're gonna use

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Speaker 2: You got twenty carries in the first two games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the guy has averaged over fifty rushing yards

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Speaker 2: in his career.

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Speaker 3: Like everyone's so excited about Jaylen Daniels as a fantasy asset,

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Speaker 3: and he's the only one that has more rushing yards

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Speaker 3: the quarterback position than fields. Yeah, and he's gonna attle.

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Speaker 3: Has he been better? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Gardner Minshew, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Donald.

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Speaker 2: Their defense is just bad enough. He's gonna have to

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Speaker 2: keep throwing and the weapons are.

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Speaker 3: The weapons are good and Bowers is like that and

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Speaker 3: they can't run the football right, the situation is ideal,

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Speaker 3: Like a really good quarterback in that situation and tear it.

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Speaker 2: Up like a car if they still a car right now, right.

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Speaker 3: Hugh, Yeah, yeah, well nothing's better than the same situation, right,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, right now, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: Uh at running back Carson Steele and Samaj p Ryan

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Speaker 2: are owned in three and four percent.

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Speaker 3: Of leagues, and they signed Hunt though they signed Hunt,

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Speaker 3: but he's on the practice practice squad.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, how about this, I heard

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Speaker 2: this this morning on a fantasy show.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Hunt last year was like the third slowest running back

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Speaker 2: in the league these things. P Ryan was the second slowest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, could they be past catching backs, yeah, which

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Speaker 3: is kind of crazy. Yeah, I mean they can't be slow.

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Speaker 3: We haven't talked about that. I mean the Checko's out

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Speaker 3: what six weeks at least at least I mean he's

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Speaker 3: if any of those guys I would put a huge,

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Speaker 3: fab dollar bid in though. I mean it's just a

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Speaker 3: little on. Steel showed some some. I know he's kind

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Speaker 3: of in the preseason. I think it's good for ma Homes.

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Speaker 2: If it were me, Steele would be the guy I

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Speaker 2: would pick up. Just I think he's definitely gonna get

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Speaker 2: the early work and probably the short yard and.

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Speaker 3: Stuff, which is enough. Yeah, I mean just for people.

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Speaker 3: Don't have them playing fantasy as they're playing from ahead. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like they played.

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Speaker 2: They played the Ravens and Bengals the first two weeks

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Speaker 2: and they got into kind of dogfights with those two teams.

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Speaker 3: Just running backs hit all year long, you know, injuries. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and if you can find guys that are going to

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Speaker 3: get sixty percent of their snaps, especially on a good offense,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter if they're good or bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know you can win with them.

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Speaker 2: Brayln Allen owned in ten percent of leagues.

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Speaker 3: I think he's just impressive.

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Speaker 2: He already he should already be in, Like if you're

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Speaker 2: the hall owner him, yeah, if you're on you, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I mean he was your first round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: When people talk about handcuffing, you're not handcuffing your number

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Speaker 2: two back. No, No, you handcuff your first round draft

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Speaker 2: picks so you don't end up in the McCaffrey situation.

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Speaker 3: Makes conversation right. No, he should be in most.

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Speaker 2: Leagues, uh, Antonio Gibson.

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Speaker 3: He's looking good and they run the ball a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he's one of those ones like it's hard to

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Speaker 3: hit the check in the box. Yeah, oh yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean especially Nia Stevenson injury. For you and I have

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Speaker 3: both been down that road way. Yeah, too many times.

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Speaker 2: Usually it's things you the wrong way, uh Rico dal

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Speaker 2: Dell out snap and out touched Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 3: I think he's better. Yeah. I wanted to draft him

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Speaker 3: in both are the leagues I'm in and didn't. I

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Speaker 3: just said, you know, but he falls really late. He's

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Speaker 3: got a chance to step up. That'd be interested.

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Speaker 2: Ty Chandler, We've talked a lot about him.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a good player. Yeah, Chewba Hubbard, like

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Speaker 3: he's Helton helps the whole offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he should be better moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a good back too. He's not a great back,

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Speaker 3: but like, you could do worse. I think we've had

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Speaker 3: this conversation, like if you were to put Cuba in

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Speaker 3: Kansas City and Pacheco in Carolina, Yeah, Cuba might be

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Speaker 3: a second round paper exactly. Yeah, neither one is great.

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Speaker 3: They'd both be the third back here. But it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Cam Akers Joe Mixon has got that angers for both.

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Speaker 2: Pierce has banged up though last week. Yeah, they really

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Speaker 2: liked Acres in the preseason. Yeah, I drafted in the

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Speaker 2: last round. I end up having to drop him for somebody.

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Speaker 3: But just because of the preseason stuff, he was an

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Speaker 3: act of Week one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he's not gonna do anything special teams, but

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Speaker 2: if he's actually in that role as the number two

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Speaker 2: and Mix is banged up, it's a good offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I'm gonna put in for him. Why not? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you have a spot, I mean I'm

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Speaker 3: not cutting good for him, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, and then Jalen Wright. Everybody knows about Jalen Wright.

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Speaker 3: That's something snow points are gonna come from from. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: team anymore. Yeah, it's gonna be rough. It's I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure it kills a chan, but it really hurts Hill

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Speaker 3: destroys Waddle. Yeah, and just the running back situation is

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Speaker 2: All those double high two high looks that they were

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Speaker 2: seeing sometimes, you know, the three man shells.

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Speaker 3: You don't can see that anymore work a lot different. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and just so many less completions.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver is a guy that we're gonna see this week,

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Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston. He's done good things for the eighteen targets

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Speaker 2: in the first two games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned yesterday as we were leaving the show. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Joey Porter follows anybody this week,

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Speaker 3: Him, probably it would be him. You know, he's the big, physical,

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Speaker 2: It's been again, they've only thrown him ball forty seven

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Speaker 2: times and he's got eighteen targets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a boy. Pretty big target as a rookie though,

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Speaker 3: And that's the reason, the only reason he's out on

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Speaker 3: the wire because first round guys. I mean, if you

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Speaker 3: told me he was a first round pick a year

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Speaker 3: ago and he's leading his team in targets. You'd think

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Speaker 3: he's in every fantasy league. Yeah, he was just that

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Speaker 3: bad as but you're allowed to get better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, andre Yasivas owned in seven percent of leagues. I

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Speaker 2: think Pagans might be back this week.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna start him in the next two

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Speaker 3: weeks any possible?

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Speaker 2: Since that's the thing though, right, don't cut somebody you

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Speaker 2: drafted over one of these guys. You drafted that guy

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Speaker 2: for a reason. Now if he's shown nothing in the

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Speaker 2: first two weeks, okay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm cutting those type of guys. You have

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Speaker 3: to look for the world. You have to look at it.

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Speaker 2: As you just mentioned, Am I ever going to start

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Speaker 2: this guy exactly?

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Speaker 3: We're running back? You might might, yeah, know, right, or

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Speaker 3: if you would have picked up a good handcuff Chewba

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Speaker 3: a week ago or something like, you know, one of

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Speaker 3: those guys, or he's not a good handcuff, but like

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Speaker 3: somebody like that, because you're fourteenth round pick looks terrible, Okay,

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Speaker 3: but you don't pick up yours for him. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: no upside there.

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Speaker 2: You know, pick up Jalen Wright or something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 3: I can't go there.

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Speaker 2: I can't go there either. Just yeah. Juwan Jennings though,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna play a lot and it's

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Speaker 3: a good offense. Probably needs to catch touchdown to make

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Speaker 3: it worth your time. Yeah, I mean he's not the

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Speaker 3: only it's hard to check the box on.

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Speaker 2: Tues Thursday nights game Patriots at Jets.

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Speaker 2: Sunday's games the Browns host the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Broncos at Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: Panthers at Raiders. You're firing up the Raiders defense this week?

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Speaker 2: Lions at Cardinals new no one, No New. Ravens at Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: that might be a shootout. That could be a shootout.

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Speaker 3: Forty at Rams. You got forty in the league.

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Speaker 2: Rams are No Chiefs at Falcons. That's why that win

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Speaker 2: Either Jaguars at Bill's fire up that Bill's defense, baby,

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Speaker 2: But the Commander's offense, Hendrickson is gonna cause.

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Speaker 2: So let's revisit that came up with When were we

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Speaker 3: Can't forget who you said the Bucks played, but it

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Speaker 3: they're gonna boy crazy. They brought him like crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Our dfs to line up it while it hit this week.

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Speaker 3: The cheating off our paper.

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Speaker 3: Surprise that cast out. There's a couple of guys got hurt.

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Speaker 3: but nobody's no quarterbacks are Yeah, quarterbacks aren't putting up

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the running stuff does matter in these situations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll put together our DFS lineup again on Friday

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Speaker 3: Good. Absolutely, a lot of injuries too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, down't know if we'll get neighbors at cheap.

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Speaker 2: Ever, again, we're not getting neighbors at cheap. We're not

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Speaker 3: There's a couple I was listening to podcasts where they

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Speaker 3: But like if I offered you Andrew's Kinkaid, Kelsey Pitts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the target share is too good.

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Speaker 3: That's too good. And he's a talent dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just find ways to get him the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 2: the DVOA stuff here on FTN Fantasy people regularly listeners

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Speaker 3: Okay, behind Baltimore. Behind Baltimore. I mean, they have a

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Speaker 2: now been adjusted.

438
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Speaker 3: And since he plays somebody bad too, yeah, so I mean,

439
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: and Cleveland plays the Giants and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

440
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: the next couple weeks will probably be pivotal for that. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 3: I mean Ravens are holding on a little bit. Yeah,

442
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 3: because the upcoming schedule is Yeah.

443
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Speaker 2: It's nast year, it's Dallas, Buffalo and Cincy.

444
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if they I feel like they have

445
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Speaker 3: to get one of the next two because then since

446
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Speaker 3: he might be a lose relief town Matt.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't go one, they can't go oh in three. No,

448
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: they got to win at least one of the one

449
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: and one and hard. One and two is hard to

450
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Speaker 2: come back. One and four overall, it's hard to come.

451
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 3: Back, hard to come back from.

452
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Speaker 2: And I think because you're a third of the way

453
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Speaker 2: through your schedule.

454
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Speaker 3: Right, I mean the next three games, it feels like

455
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 3: they should need a winning record. Yeah, and one in

456
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 3: four problematic. Yeah, yeah, big time, big time. I believe

457
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: that game against Cincinnati's in Cincinnati too, So it's they

458
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Speaker 3: got Buffalo at home, They're in Dallas this week and

459
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 3: then they got to travel too since Yeah, not easy

460
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,479
Speaker 3: at all. No, No, they're in trouble.

461
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 2: Looking at the rest of the AFC, Buffalo now is

462
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: an eighty one point six percent chance to make the playoffs.

463
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 3: You'll be feeling pretty comfortable for you're the Bills right

464
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 3: now as supposed to two weeks ago.

465
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 2: The Jets are a forty six point five percent, So

466
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers have a higher chance than the Jets. Miami's

467
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 2: at thirty six point three percent. Now that's not factoring

468
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: in right two and not being available.

469
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Speaker 3: The Dolphins or New England have a better chance. I'm

470
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Speaker 3: sure it's still the Dolphins because they're not factorying to

471
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: But in your mind, who has a better chance neither neither,

472
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: that's really the answer right now.

473
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Speaker 2: It's New England still has a twenty five five percent

474
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Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs.

475
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Speaker 3: I don't even think it's that high. I don't think

476
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 3: it's that high either. Buffalo sitting pretty and the Jets

477
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 3: could do quite well.

478
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: In the AFC South Houston with an eighty seven point

479
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: seven percent chance to make the playoffs.

480
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Speaker 3: That I agree with. I mean, it'd be a real

481
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 3: upset if they don't win that division.

482
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Speaker 2: Jackson Bills at twenty eight point one.

483
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: Percent, they could turn things around.

484
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 2: Possibly, Tennis, that's a better chance than the one on

485
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: one Patriots have.

486
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Speaker 3: I agree with that too, though.

487
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee's at fifteen point one percent.

488
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 3: Wow.

489
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 2: Indian Indianapolis is at thirteen point three percent.

490
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I mean that's really down on both those teams.

491
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: Already in the West Kansas City's at eighty six point three.

492
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Speaker 3: I'd be shocked if they don't get in. The Chargers

493
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: are at forty eight point four percent to a noh

494
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Speaker 3: start considering how the rest of the AFC is gone.

495
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: This is what we've been talking. Yeah, right right, I

496
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: mean a lot of teams took some majors. They're eliminating themselves, right, exactly, right, Yeah,

497
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 3: Like Miami.

498
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Speaker 2: Vegas is at twenty three point seven percent. That seems rich,

499
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: but okay, and Denver is the lowest in the AFC

500
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: at five point four percent.

501
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Speaker 3: They should be I mean they should they gotta be below.

502
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: They've been bad, Yeah, they've been bad.

503
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at that overall DVOA. Just to give us

504
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: a little look ahead here at the at the Chargers.

505
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: In terms of current you're talking about after two weeks

506
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 3: where they're sitting in dvo as. Yeah.

507
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, it's taking a second to load here. Why

508
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: does it give me the historical I don't want historical.

509
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: Oh wait, there we go.

510
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So right now in New Orleans is number one.

511
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're actually after two weeks, one of the

512
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: highest ever.

513
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety one point two percent score.

514
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: Because again, so I listened to Aaron's podcasts yesterday and

515
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 3: he said he picked the Saints to win the South.

516
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: But he even said this to my face in our podcast,

517
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: said only because their average to your face. Well, we

518
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: did a video. Oh we look at each other. You know,

519
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: he was in my basement, but he said, we're picking

520
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: the Saints because they're average and the rest of the

521
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: division stinks in their eyes. So they didn't even predic

522
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: they didnt prett the Saints to be great. But still

523
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: I just listening to them. They said, we are not

524
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: adjusting for opponent yet, Like, yes, what they've done through

525
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: two weeks is historically good. But he said, as soon

526
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: as we adjust for Carolina, it's not gonna be historically good.

527
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 3: Let's be really good, you know what I mean.

528
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: I mean they're number one right now on offense, they're

529
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: number three in defense, and their number.

530
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 3: Number four and special team. It's pretty strong start. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 3: I figure I'll get you. That's a distant one.

532
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the offense is at forty seven point seven and

533
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: nobody next closes is not forty.

534
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: It has got to be way down.

535
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not that it's twenty eight point nine. That's Buffalo.

536
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: The worst, by the way is Carolina at minus sixty

537
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: one point seven, So.

538
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 3: They're worst better Yeah, why, I mean they're horrific.

539
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: Chicago minus forty eight point six, Denver minus thirty four

540
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: point two.

541
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Speaker 3: Cleveland, by the way, is minus thirty one point nine. Bad,

542
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: really bad. I don't know what the offense Hangs has

543
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: had on. So they're one, Saints are one in DVO,

544
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: Saints are one. Second is Seattle m They've played well.

545
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: Both sides of the ball have not been probably bet they're

546
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: five or six on both sides of the ball something

547
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 3: like that.

548
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 2: Uh six and offense, five on defense, nineteen on special teams.

549
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: Okay, they'll take that. Considering them there're one a few

550
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 3: teams passing the ball.

551
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the Chargers are third.

552
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: Again, there's one team that hasn't been adjusted. Hasn't been adjusted.

553
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: Saints and Chargers are fortunate.

554
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: Seventeenth on offense, number one on defense, and twenty second

555
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: on special teams.

556
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've given up thirteen points or whatever. Yeah, I

557
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: mean they've give up the fewest points in the league

558
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 3: and again, like I've really dug in the numbers. Their

559
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: defensive numbers are awesome, but they've.

560
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Played a team that's minus sixty seven.

561
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

562
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, same thing with the Saints. The

563
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 2: Saints defense is third.

564
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they've played totally ineptitude unit that they're playing. Yeah,

565
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: Minnesota fourth, I get it. Probably good on both sides

566
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: of the ball.

567
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Thirteenth on offense, second on defense, eighth on special teams.

568
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Flora's is down, stuff up. Houston is fifth, but

569
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: they're also good on both sides of ball. Sixteenth on offense.

570
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 3: Really yeah, week one what they do? I think they

571
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 3: kind of struggled a little in Week one, Yeah, didn't

572
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: throw it. I guess they haven't been dominant either week.

573
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: They've been fine.

574
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: Buffalo is sixth, Arizona is seventh.

575
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 3: Gotta be based off the offense.

576
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: The offense is fifth, the defense is fifteenth, the special

577
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: teams are thirteenth.

578
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, the offense has been dynamite and.

579
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: The Steelers are eighth.

580
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: I knew they were gonna be high. I remember Aaron

581
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 3: mentioned that on the podcast.

582
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Twenty second on offense, sixth on defense, sixteenth on special teams.

583
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 3: Surprised me, they're that low on special teams.

584
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: They've had some big returns wiped out, yeah, on punt returns,

585
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: and they've had some penalties on a couple of those

586
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: things that.

587
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 3: Have per EPA. They're one of the best on special team, yeah,

588
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: you know which they usually EPA and DVA are usually

589
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: very similar. Not they've been great on teams, but they're

590
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: hitting long field goals, right, yeah, that's way yeah right.

591
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of surprise only sixth on defense? Who

592
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: are the defense is ranked ahead of them?

593
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: Right now? The Chargers are at one, Saints were ahead

594
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: of them Minnesota is it two? Okay? The Saints are

595
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: at three, Houston at four, Seattle at five. It's at six.

596
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, considering what we've seen so far,

597
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade the Steelers D for anyone. I really wouldn't.

598
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: I mean, the Browns I think are the second best

599
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: defense in my opinion. I think series the best defensive.

600
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: Moving right now is twelfth in defensive d V.

601
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: I get it, But Cincinnati that doesn't add up to me.

602
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: No, it's just some weirdness to these numbers. Baltimore is

603
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: nineteenth on defense. I mentioned they've given up the most passion.

604
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: Right, and I know they're harder on you if you're

605
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: bad against the pass. Huh.

606
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, maybe it doesn't ding Cincinnati quite as

607
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: hard because they're bad against.

608
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: The run, right. I mean, I know that they're kinder

609
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: to those teams because.

610
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Mahmes didn't throw for a bunch of

611
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: yards on something.

612
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: No, they didn't, and they they didn't run great. On defense,

613
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Hendrickson was really good, but I didn't think

614
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 3: the Bengals D was overpowering or anything like that.

615
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: The other top ten defense is Chicago at seven, Buffalo

616
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: at eight, Tennessee at nine, Detroit at ten.

617
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: Bills Lions. I mean these are good offenses. I mean

618
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 3: there are a lot of shocks there after the defense. Defense, Oh, defenses.

619
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: I think the Bills D has been really good. It's

620
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 3: been really yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

621
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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Steelers twenty second on offense or at

622
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: minus six point seven, the offenses that are worse thus far.

623
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Speaker 3: Tennessee agreed. Yeah, Dallas Saints game was bad for them. Yeah,

624
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: first game that wasn't awesome either. Yeah.

625
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: The Giants okay, yeah, the Rams all banged up. Yeah,

626
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: I think that's fair Miami.

627
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that that Bill's game was miserable. I

628
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: can't gonna history is gonna be like, oh, they lost

629
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: to they lost way before.

630
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: That, and suddenly that game against the Jaguars where they

631
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: eked out a wind doesn't look quite as good as

632
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: he did in Week one.

633
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: No, Jags aren't great by any stretch. Vegas, Hm, I

634
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: thought they'd be higher.

635
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: Cleveland, Denver, Chicago and Carolina. Those three the three teams

636
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: that are starting rookie quarterbacks. Yeah, none of them, none

637
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: of them with throw touchdown pass.

638
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: So I pulled up EPA real quick. They have the

639
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: Steelers is a third ranked defense, Chargers one, Saints two,

640
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: then the Steelers.

641
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: So the two teams that played Carolinas.

642
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: Like that to me, that passes the eyeball test better.

643
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 3: And then the Vikes in Chicago behind there, and then

644
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: on all offense there, I don't know, I'm looking at

645
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: a graph. It's not so they're like twentieth. There's probably

646
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: ten teams behind them. And the team's good thing. Denver, Carolina, Chicago.

647
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: So I just want to look and see here after

648
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: the last night, where's Atlanta's offense rank?

649
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: Uh? Atlanta's offense is actually eighth. Really, that was a

650
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: pretty good showing last year.

651
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: Good showing, and Steelers shut that offense down big time.

652
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I figured it's while you're looking up, Yeah, that's

653
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: I think it's where do you think they'll end up?

654
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: I think they'll end up in that neighborhood. Yeah, yeah,

655
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: I mean I think that's a office. Yeah. I don't

656
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: trust Atlanta's defense all that much, but yeah, I think

657
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: their offense will come around and be top ten, if

658
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: not better.

659
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Atlanta's defense is seventeenth, their offense is eighth.

660
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: I mean if they do that all season, yeah, you'll

661
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: be in the playoff hunt. Yeah, you'll be might win

662
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: double digit games like that. Yeah.

663
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: I think people will look at that win in Atlanta

664
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: on opening Day much differently here in a few weeks.

665
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: Although I mentioned Atlanta plays Kansas City this.

666
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: Week, But their schedule then gets really easy after that.

667
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: Does I knew they had one of the absolute eat

668
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: schedules in the league preseason? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely think

669
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: come November or whatever, you'll look back in Week one

670
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: and be like, that's a really good Steeler win. Yeah,

671
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: and it.

672
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Was the Denver one. You might not look they're bad.

673
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: It's a bad football that's a bad team. Yeah, but

674
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: you handle your business. Yeah.

675
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: So, and we'll see what happens this week with with

676
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: this UH Chargers team. As I mentioned, seventeenth on offense,

677
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: first on defense, twenty second on special teams. Twenty second

678
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: on special teams is a little concern, little eye opening.

679
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know they're specialists or what their their

680
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: issues are yet. I don't think they've missed any field goals.

681
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Like I said this, the Steelers are seven.

682
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: Or sixteen against Panthers.

683
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: Steelers are sixteenth and special teams DVOA. But they're on

684
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: the positive side of things.

685
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: It's above zero.

686
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're at one point one. Okay, there's there are

687
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: some teams behind them. In fact, three teams behind them who.

688
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: Are also in the positive penalty or two. I'm trying

689
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: to think what the negative have been.

690
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: The Chargers are minus point three point minus three point four.

691
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: That's a significant that's a big difference. There's a big

692
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: gap there. Something like that's gonna be huge in this game.

693
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: I mean, just something to keep an eye on this week.

694
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: We always say it with the Steelers because it means

695
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: more to this team than the other thirty ones. But

696
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: the special teams, the hidden yardage, the penalties, the certainly

697
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: turnovers are going to be massive in this game. Yeah,

698
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: because just the way the style of both these teams play.

699
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be.

700
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: Interesting to see too. That the Chargers stayed in Charlotte

701
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: this week. And I don't know if that's good or

702
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: bad or not. Like leaving your house for ten straight

703
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: days is not to me real conducive.

704
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: To adult men that are millionaires would like to sleep

705
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: in their nice bed, you know what I mean. Like,

706
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he's treating it like training camp, but

707
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: I think he is treating it like a bonding situation.

708
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: And he's an odd dude, think as everyone knows. Yeah,

709
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: I heard this one. It was announced when he told

710
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: the team. He's like, so, bring a bunch of board games,

711
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I don't think they play a

712
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: lot of board games anymore. Yeah, Like I don't think

713
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: they're sitting around playing Monopoly like.

714
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: The Steelers do some of that at training camp because

715
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: they're there for a month.

716
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, but you're going on, You're chopping.

717
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: On a plane and flying across country for ten days

718
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: in the middle of your season, Like.

719
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: Did it really save you that much. Yeah, I don't know.

720
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: I think that's an odd decision. It's not like you're

721
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: playing the Jets and the Giants. I also heard that

722
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: the Saints travel from Carolina to Pittsburgh, right, Yeah, the

723
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Saints are also each other.

724
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: The Saints are staying at the Greenbrier this week down

725
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: in West Virginia.

726
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: Who are they playing?

727
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know who we talk about them playing.

728
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't remember either.

729
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: Well, I saw the schedule here, Saints are playing, They're

730
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: hosting the Eagles. I think there's I think there's a

731
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: hurricane situation in New Orleans.

732
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: Okay, what's so great about the Greenbriers?

733
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: I know that Peyton always did that, though not the

734
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 2: not the Saints. Denver's doing that. This week Denver plays

735
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: where they at Denver's at Tampa Bay, and then next week.

736
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: They must be on the East coast again. So next week,

737
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: let me call it up here. So they're doing it

738
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: after this week's.

739
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: After this week's game, Yeah, they are then going to.

740
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: The Jets. Okay, it still doesn't make a ton of

741
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: sense to me.

742
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: Peyton always took his Saints teams to the Greenboro to

743
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: train back when he was head coach there.

744
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Should I know something about this resort?

745
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: Apparently he knows.

746
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: Well.

747
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: I do know this about the Greenbrier. It was the

748
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: site of where the United States government had it.

749
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I was about to ask that question.

750
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: I know about right, Yeah, that's where they like, they

751
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: had the bunkers set up there. So if there's a

752
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: nuclear war, the government would have moved everybody to the Greenbrier.

753
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: You can now tour those because that news got out,

754
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: so you.

755
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: Knew there was somewhere in Virginia that that was was

756
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: a assuming that it's at that resort, Okay, So so okay, maybe.

757
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 2: Maybe Sean's a big He likes going down in the bunker.

758
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: Cool place fifty three young man, you know, and go, yeah,

759
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: showing that history a little middle of nowhere West Virginia.

760
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, fair enough, there you go. I don't

761
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: know what that accomplishes for Harbaugh or Peyton, to be

762
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: honest with you, I don't know.

763
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: The Steelers have never done that. Yeah, you know, they've

764
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: gone early, like a couple of days early to a

765
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: West Coast game or something like that, but they've never

766
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: gone and just stayed somewhere except for Super Bowls.

767
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: That's different.

768
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

769
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 3: I just think the players are want to come home.

770
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: I would think so too, all right, I mean the

771
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: playing flights aren't that brutal. No, I mean we were great,

772
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: but this way we were back. I was on the

773
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 3: Steelers charter for the flight to Denver. We were back

774
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: in under under three hours, and it was like two

775
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: and a half hour flight. Yeah. I mean people don't know.

776
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: You get on the flight pretty much as soon as

777
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: the head coach that it's time to go, you know,

778
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: like the flight. You're not waiting on.

779
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: An hour after the game. You're leaving, you're busting out

780
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 2: of the stadium. You're on the tarmac. You get on,

781
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: they drive you straight out onto the tarmac, You climb

782
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: onto the plane, and you go.

783
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: With the police escort. You don't even sitting at red lights? No, right, yeah, right,

784
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know, it just seems strange to me.

785
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: It does sleep on the plane.

786
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: They're practicing at the nc Charlotte's facilities, so you're not

787
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: even you don't even have your facilities to practice at.

788
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

789
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: I mean dealing with an ankle injury or some type like,

790
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: are you getting the treatment that you need?

791
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point too. And like the equipment

792
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: guy and the grounds crew, I mean like they're playing

793
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: a major road game. Yeah, I mean don't know, can

794
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 3: they Are they capable of washing the closes? I don't know.

795
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of logistics to it, though, there.

796
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Really are, And I'll be interested to see if maybe

797
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: they're maybe they're just dragging a little bit to start

798
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: this game this week.

799
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe we'll see if I'd blame

800
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: that or not. But maybe when they postgame interviews come out,

801
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: like we didn't like to stay on the East Coast,

802
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know. I have no idea.

803
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. This is

804
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: the drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I

805
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: will be back with more right after this.

806
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: You're a home for the Steelers. He's the Pittsburgh Steelers

807
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: Audio Network.

808
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: And we are back and Matt, let's take a look

809
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: here at the Chargers roster.

810
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: Okay, not a team. The Steelers play a lot. No,

811
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: let's get be familiar with them. Yeah, yeah, let's go

812
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: position by position here a few of the positions. You're

813
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: gonna be like, who are Yeah, it's not as good

814
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: as you think, you know, for a two and oh team. Yeah,

815
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: they're kind of top heavy. Yeah, well they're they're building. Yeah,

816
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: it's step one at.

817
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: Wide receivers Quentin Johnston, Josh Palmer, Lad mcconkee, with Simmy Fajoco,

818
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: Brendan Rice and Darius Davis behind them.

819
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: You mentioned order the show. Uh, Johnson's is the breakout

820
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: or the story so far, you know, and he's kind

821
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: of acting as the one. Maybe they could, maybe they

822
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: can light a fire under them and turn them into something.

823
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 3: It'd be a good compliment to mconkee and Ben Palmer. Yeah. Uh.

824
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: They have four tight ends on their roster, one of

825
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: the few teams that, like the Steelers, have four mostly blockers,

826
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: Hayden Hurst, Will Disley, Eric, Tomlinson, and Stone Smart.

827
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: They use the top three quite a bit, sort of

828
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: like the Steelers do. Hurst is definitely their receiving type

829
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: tight le.

830
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

831
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: The other guys are more blocking type. Yeah. Yeah, but

832
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: they play a lot.

833
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: Offensive line is with Shaun Slater from left to right,

834
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: Rashaun Slater's Ion Johnson, Bradley Boseman, Trey Pipkins, and Joe Alt.

835
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: I think the tackles are on the verge of being stars,

836
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: and I think Slater already is the only reason he's

837
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: not considered that way is because of injuries stuff Bozeman

838
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: and Boseman's right guard. Yeah, be had, Yeah, they're okay.

839
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: That's that's an area with the Steelers might be able

840
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: to exploit.

841
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: Exploit that they will. Yeah. Yeah.

842
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: Running back, it's JK Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Hassan Haskins, and

843
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: Kamani Videll.

844
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: Has been inactive. I think he's not an accomplished special

845
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: team or coming out of Troy yet. Edmund or Gus

846
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: and JK have basically split it right down the middle.

847
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: I think Edwards has twenty nine carries and Dobbins has twenty.

848
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: And is way more effective.

849
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, way, Like Edwards is averaging two point nine yards

850
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: of carry behind that offensive line.

851
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right against the Panthers. Against the Panthers, right, Yeah.

852
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: So I wonder if it's actually a close game in

853
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, like I think it probably will be Sunday,

854
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: does Dobbins get seventy five instead of twenty, you know

855
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, instead of fifty?

856
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then of course a quarterback. It's justin Herbert

857
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: Easton Stick and Taylor Heineke.

858
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: So they traded for Heineke. Yeah, I don't know if

859
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: he's acting as the two or not. He's only been

860
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: there a couple of weeks. He was a late edition.

861
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: The d tackles are a little fright now.

862
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, defensively the defensive line in general. You're looking at

863
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: and it's a three four defense.

864
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the D line is bad.

865
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Morgan Fox, Puna Ford, and Audio Agabona.

866
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: Right, these are just they wouldn't serve for Steelers.

867
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know if any of them would be

868
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: in the rotation for the Steelers.

869
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 3: How much I would have to really study their D line.

870
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 3: I don't know how many would make this team. That's

871
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, I don't what I mean. It's

872
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: a really bad group. Yeah, there's no.

873
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: Pass rush, but backing those guys up are justin equall

874
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Speaker 2: b A. Right, it was a lot of it, Tart

875
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: and Scott Mattlock.

876
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Speaker 3: I honestly think it's one of the weakest position groups

877
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: in the NFL. It's pretty bad. It's really bad. Yeah. Yeah.

878
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: The linebackers Joey Bosa with Khalil Mack on the other side,

879
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: and then Dayon Henley and Denzel Perryman in the middle.

880
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: Junior Colson was a third round draft pick for them.

881
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: The backups to Bosa are and Mac are Bud Dupree

882
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: and I can't say hop Low too. And they really

883
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: love to I mean, like he's a really good player.

884
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: He's kind of like they're herbig, you know what I mean,

885
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: Like he's a three on a team that would start

886
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: for a lot. And Bosa and Mac are healthy, So

887
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: that's a dangerous group.

888
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: Bosa wasn't healthy last year, was really he was. He

889
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: was banged up in last week during practice last week.

890
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

891
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he was questionable going into that game. So

892
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: we'll see where he's at.

893
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Those edge guys are good though, Yeah, I mean that's

894
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: the best part of the defense.

895
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: In the secondary, you're looking at the cornerbacks or Assante

896
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Samuel with Christian Fulton and j Jaseer Taylor as the nickelback.

897
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: Fulton's played really well. It's against Panthers. Yeah, they love Samuel.

898
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's not at Porters level, but they love Samuel.

899
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: So the corners are the top two are averaged above.

900
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the safeties Derwin James and Alloy Gilman.

901
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Gilman they brought back he was a free agent. He

902
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: had a really good year a year ago. Good player.

903
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of like there. He was banged

904
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: up last last week, A wow, I'm on top of

905
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: their injuries. Irwin still hasn't gotten back to being a

906
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: huge difference maker. I thought he'd be the Hamilton in

907
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: this defense, and maybe he will. But he's very, very

908
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: talented stand out. But his career isn't gone the way

909
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: I thought it would. No.

910
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean early in his career it looked like he

911
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: was going to be the next big thing.

912
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: It's safety, and that has not been the case.

913
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: No.

914
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: I remember him and Minker about the same age, and

915
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: I thought that might be Troy and Ed. Yeah. I

916
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: mean I really thought they could be the best two

917
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: safeties for a long time.

918
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: And he's good, Yeah, sign he's good, but he's not.

919
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: Great, Yeah, which he expected Gugeries to and you know, right,

920
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: But he's very talented, he's huge, I thought, and it's

921
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: only two games. Harbaugh might turn him back into a player.

922
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: Maybe injuries of taking their toll on him and been

923
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: too hard on them.

924
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean, when you start looking

925
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: at this position by position, there's holes. This is a

926
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: team that the Steelers are better than a wide receiver.

927
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I said before the season, before Dobbins, you know, emerged,

928
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: I thought they were the worst skill talent elite. Yeah,

929
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers. Johnson's better.

930
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: Steelers are better at running back. Yeah, they're better as

931
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: the line, the offensive line.

932
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 3: You got to give the nod right now to uh. Yes,

933
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: it's it's just one step ahead of them. Yeah, you know,

934
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: and in their development, especially if them all is out.

935
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: Steeler tight ends are better. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I

936
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: mean Herbert's obviously the Yeah, they're better at quarterback.

937
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: The lines, I even close.

938
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: The defensive fronts, even if if when you consider Bosa

939
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: and Mac in the equation, the Steelers are still.

940
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 3: I mean, the five man front's way better. Yeah, especially

941
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: at the tackle. Yeah, I mean defensive tackle. It's not

942
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: even close. And I don't think the off ball linebackers

943
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: are close. Yeah. So I mean this is I don't

944
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: think it's a very good roster. Gets a year from now,

945
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a pretty good.

946
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: Roster, and I would take the Steelers secondary over this one.

947
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: I would too. I would too again, I think it's

948
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: the best defensive the league. Yeah, that doesn't have a

949
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: lot of holes. It really doesn't. Steelers.

950
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean this is this is another two

951
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: to oh team that people are looking at and saying, well,

952
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: this is NFL dot Com at them? Is there number seventeen?

953
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? All right? Right? What where what I mean? If

954
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: you look at the rosters coach.

955
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: Comparing the rosters like, yeah, Steelers rosters a better good?

956
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the defensive line blows me away. Yeah.

957
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: And if you if you combine it with the two

958
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: inside linebackers three four, you know that that five and triangle,

959
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: it's pretty soft. Yeah, I mean to say the least

960
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 3: and the safeties are fine. Corners are fine, but they're

961
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: good on the edges, right, you know what I mean

962
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: so much? Right? I mean, Fraser could really be a

963
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: really important player in this game. Has been really good,

964
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: and he's been really really good, really good. So we'll see, you.

965
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Speaker 2: Know again, making that uh spending an extra week out here,

966
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Speaker 2: see what the if that has any effect on on

967
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Speaker 2: the Chargers here.

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Speaker 3: And their depth isn't right right, they just don't have

969
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: any yet. But right again, this was a really salary

970
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: cap stripped team that he took over, like Herbert was

971
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: the beauty of taking over this team. Yeah, that you

972
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: had that, but you know you're getting rid of Keenan

973
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: Allen or Mike Williams or both or Mac. They decided

974
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: to keep the edge guys and from the receivers, but

975
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Speaker 3: they knew this was going to be a rebuild year.

976
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Speaker 3: That's why I'm so shocked that NFL dot Com and

977
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: all these other people are like jumping on board. Oh yeah,

978
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: they're just gonna be so so good this year. Gonna

979
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: make it, I mean not if you don't have he

980
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: knew what he took us. Yeah, I mean it's good

981
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: at least a two year project. Yeah, you've got a

982
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: quarterback and now you even a line. Good start. It's

983
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: a good place.

984
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good place to start start, but it's

985
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Speaker 2: not the finished product.

986
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Speaker 3: No, no, no. And then there's some similarities to Steelers,

987
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of high.

988
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: There's a reason why Hardball's wanting to play this way

989
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: because they don't have no overall talent.

990
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Speaker 3: Right, Like their first round pick next year might be

991
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Speaker 3: a white out. Yeah it makes sense, you.

992
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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely right, absolutely, Matt, that's going to do it

993
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Speaker 2: for the show today. Fun one absolutely, Matt, and now

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Speaker 2: I will be back again tomorrow as we are here

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Monday through Friday four to six pm.

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Speaker 2: You can check that out and a lot of different places.

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Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson for Brian Lamartine here on site keeping

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Speaker 2: us on the air, and Tyler Viittmeyer keeping us alive

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