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Speaker 1: so you know, while you're conducting those interviews, your mind's

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Speaker 1: not thinking like that. I got some memory framework techniques

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Speaker 1: and focus technique I used to where Your whole concept

431
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Speaker 1: is you could be interviewing a real life alien and

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Speaker 1: you keep your cool, but afterwards you don't have to

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Speaker 1: do that, So afterwards you were reflecting, or at least

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Speaker 1: I was reflecting on I always love to play this game,

435
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Speaker 1: which is probably popular the whole If I could go

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Speaker 1: back ten years ago and tell myself this, or if

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Speaker 1: I could record a moment of my life my present

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Speaker 1: and show it to ten years ago me as a

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Speaker 1: vision of the future, what would the me of ten

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Speaker 1: years ago be saying. And to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what in the world the ten year

442
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Speaker 1: old version of me would have been saying. If I'm

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to twenty twenty and you see, oh you

444
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 1: got Urban Meyer, there, you got Nick Saban. There. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you Another one that was real fun was Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 1: Not so much because of the interview. He gave us

447
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Speaker 1: some really good stuff in the interview, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I've never spoken to Matthew McConaughey in my life to

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00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: that point. And we link up. We're doing these interviews

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Speaker 1: through zoom, which is how everyone's living their life these days.

451
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Speaker 1: And I swear to you we must have sat there

452
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: and talked for like twenty minutes, fifteen to twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: conservatively about all sorts of stuff. He is a guy,

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Speaker 1: as I've told some of my buddies who asked, he

455
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Speaker 1: is a guy who has this for lack of a

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00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: better term, aura about him. And it's kind of like gravity.

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00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you get close enough to the Earth,

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Speaker 1: its gravitational field starts to pull on you. Well, Matthew

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Speaker 1: McConaughey is one of those guys with such a strong

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Speaker 1: personality that if you're talking to him, he starts to

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Speaker 1: influence you. I went back and listened to that interview,

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Speaker 1: and I was listening to it once we'd started the interview.

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Speaker 1: I was already thirty minutes into talking to him. And

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Speaker 1: so once we're starting the interview, you know, I noticed

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Speaker 1: slight changes in my vocal tempo, slight changes in my

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Speaker 1: ad diction. I may have let a lot of my

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Speaker 1: natural southern draws slip back in. And I'm thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: why am I doing that? Why do I sound like that?

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Speaker 1: And then I realized it was his effect. In thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: it was his effect of just sitting there talking to him.

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Speaker 1: He just loosens you up so much, and it's a

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Speaker 1: mirror image of the character he plays in movies. And

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Speaker 1: you know what I equated it to. The reason I

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Speaker 1: think he's so effective is the same reason if you're

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Speaker 1: a big pro wrestling fan of a generation to go

476
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: like me, Guys like Stone Cold Steve Austin were effective.

477
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Speaker 1: It's because when you listen to Steve Austin do a

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Speaker 1: real life interview, you say, oh, he sounds a lot

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Speaker 1: like he did on TV on Monday nights. Oh that's

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Speaker 1: because he really wasn't playing a character. It was just

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Speaker 1: him in real life, maybe with the volume turned up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Dwayne Johnson The Rock kind of the

483
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: same way. So, you know, movie stars. Ironically The Rock

484
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Speaker 1: became one. But actors, movie stars are the best ones.

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Speaker 1: You kind of come to realize the best ones are

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Speaker 1: the best because they're not having to act a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of themselves and their natural personality just happens

488
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Speaker 1: to seamlessly transfer to that medium. It was really fun,

489
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Speaker 1: though we're still working on some more lu La Bear.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the podcast review section. Thoughts on

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Speaker 1: LSU hiring a kid fresh out of high school for

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Speaker 1: the recruiting, editing, and graphics department. This is the big

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Speaker 1: deal right now in college sports. Science is one. You

494
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Speaker 1: read a lot about that. Number two. These graphics departments

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00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: and these editing departments. Boy, they have really beefed up

496
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Speaker 1: their operation. LSU no shocker here, sort of lapped the

497
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Speaker 1: field this last year. If you saw if you were

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and whatnot on Saturdays and you saw those

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Speaker 1: hype videos that they tweet out, incredible. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: got involved in one. I didn't know what was coming.

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Speaker 1: I was in Tuscaloosa for the LSU Alabama game. I

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Speaker 1: was outside the stadium or I think I was in

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Speaker 1: an uber. Actually, I hope I can tell that story

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Speaker 1: one day. It sounds mischievous, but it's not mischievous in

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Speaker 1: like a hungover alcohol related type way. Even though we

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Speaker 1: were in the back seat of an uber early on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday morning. It's a totally different set of mischievous

508
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Speaker 1: for reasons that have nothing to do with of using

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Speaker 1: any kind of substance finny sort but statut to limitations.

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Speaker 1: So we got to keep that one suppressed. From now.

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Speaker 1: There are about five people who will listen to this

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Speaker 1: who know what I'm talking about. And they need to

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Speaker 1: lock it and put it in their pocket. So I'm

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Speaker 1: in that uber and my phone blows up and everyone's saying,

515
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Speaker 1: look at this, look at this, and it's a link

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Speaker 1: to a Twitter account. So I look in LSU's Twitter

517
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Speaker 1: account is put out their hype video for the Alabama game,

518
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Speaker 1: and it had a bunch of clips from CBS, ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Fox and then US. And when I say US, I

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Speaker 1: mean me doing Late Kick independently on my YouTube channel,

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Speaker 1: which I had just started five months earlier, and we

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Speaker 1: had gotten some traction with LSU folks because we were

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Speaker 1: way higher on them in the summer than most everyone

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Speaker 1: else was outside of Baton Rouge. So they had taken notice,

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Speaker 1: and sure enough, we had apparently woven ourselves into the

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Speaker 1: fabric of Louisiana enough to where they put us right

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Speaker 1: in there alongside the national types. So that's when I

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Speaker 1: took notice really of that. But my thoughts are to

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Speaker 1: answer the question to Lulaberry, I'm on board with it.

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Speaker 1: I advocate for this where we work at twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven. You can either look at these sort of

532
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: new media horizons, and there are various horizons. TikTok, Instagram's

533
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: not new anymore. But when it comes to the way

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00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: that people recruit athletic departments, the way they recruit, the

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Speaker 1: way that you correspond with players, the way that you

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00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: correspond with former players, the way that you package them

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Speaker 1: to sell to future prospects, all kinds of different ways

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Speaker 1: that you can use new age media. But the bottom

539
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: line is you could have someone who's a twenty five

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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: year veteran in the college football industry who knows nothing

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Speaker 1: about that. You got a twenty year old who runs

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00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: circles around them. Why would you ever hesitate in hiring that?

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Speaker 1: First off, to be let's just be real, you don't

544
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Speaker 1: have to pay them a whole lot. They really appreciate

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. But you get really really good results out

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Speaker 1: of it too, so I think it's a win all around.

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Speaker 1: Jason podcast review Weird. I laugh so much because I

548
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: don't I print this off, but then I don't look

549
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: over the questions again until I get to them, so

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00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: it's like I'm seeing them for the first time. Weird question,

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Speaker 1: Jason says, but where do media people park at games?

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Speaker 1: I told you ask me anything, I'll answer pretty much anything, Jason.

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00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: The answer is all over the place. Sometimes, and I

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Speaker 1: got to credit Georgia big time. Georgia is about the

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Speaker 1: best in the world at giving you access parking access

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00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: right across the street from the stadium. Now, it is

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Speaker 1: my belief, and this is my personal belief. It's my

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Speaker 1: belief that we should in When I say we, I

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00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: say people being paid to cover the game, and you're

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00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna get fed for free too. By the way, we

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00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: should have to park in another zip code if that's

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Speaker 1: what it takes. But I'm happy we don't have to

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Speaker 1: all the time. Now. Some places like Auburn, they make

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Speaker 1: you walk a pretty good distance, but they've got the

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Speaker 1: golf cart to carry you to stadium. Now you're on

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Speaker 1: your own once the game's over. Alabama, it's behind the

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Speaker 1: fraternity houses and sorority houses right there on University Boulevard,

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Speaker 1: so it's not too long a walk. But Georgia's right

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Speaker 1: across those railroad tracks from that freight entrance where there's

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Speaker 1: a big hill. Georgia's stadium I love cause it's built

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Speaker 1: into a hill. It sort of they utilize the topography

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Speaker 1: of downtown Athens and so you get good parking there.

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Speaker 1: Clemson's another place where you got a park like a

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Speaker 1: mile away, but golf carts there to take you right up.

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Speaker 1: You go through a cemetery at Clemson best I can remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've only been there last year. Go through

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Speaker 1: a cemetery to get to the media entrance there, but

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Speaker 1: the best ones by far, Like if you cover a

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Speaker 1: game in these newer venues, like where they had the

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Speaker 1: Fiesta Bowl out in Glendale, you park right across. I

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Speaker 1: mean you essentially can toss a rock and hit Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the Superdome in Louisiana, the Georgia Dome used to be

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Speaker 1: this way. Cowboys Stadium out in Arlington. Those parking garages

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Speaker 1: in some cases are built into to the arena itself.

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Speaker 1: They're just underground. So I mean, you're parking in a

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Speaker 1: garage that's connected to the building. But that's a postseason

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00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: setting and by then it's not all that hot anyway,

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00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: so you wouldn't mind the walk outside. Good question, though

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00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: interesting would not have thought of that one, Josh. In

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Speaker 1: the podcast review section, some people in the Michigan fan

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00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: base accuse Ohio State of sacrificing morals and integrity to

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Speaker 1: recruit and win at the highest level. I find that shocking.

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Speaker 1: Let's continue. Since you're from the South, how do folks

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Speaker 1: down there perceive Ohio State as an SEC program. That's

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Speaker 1: how we perceive them as SEC North. They are in

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Speaker 1: the Northern division of the Southeastern Conference by themselves. But

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Speaker 1: I say that complimentary. I don't say that as a

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Speaker 1: slight Listen, anytime someone starts recruiting at a high level,

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Speaker 1: or anytime someone has sustained success and you're their rival

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Speaker 1: and you don't match it, some people are going to

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00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: be salty and they're going to toss out the accusations

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00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a lot easier to do It's

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Speaker 1: a lot easier to hop on the message board, and

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00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to hop on Twitter and use

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Speaker 1: your one hundred whatever characters they give you to throw

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: out accusations. And even though it would be a lot

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00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: easier to just write they're better than us right now,

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00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: technically it would be easier to do that, emotionally, you

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Speaker 1: can't bring yourself to do it. Here's what I know

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Speaker 1: about Ohio State talking to some people in the compliance world.

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Speaker 1: You know what the complaint is at Ohio State. Inside

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, they think that they're too strict. They're compliance folks.

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Speaker 1: They don't always see eye to eye with their football operations, folks.

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Speaker 1: And so there are a lot of things that Ohio

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Speaker 1: State's recruiting staff and coaching staff would really love to

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Speaker 1: be able to do that aren't illegal per se. They

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00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: may get close to the edge of the cliff. You know,

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: you may dip your toe in the water that and

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Speaker 1: when you say dip your toe in the water, you're

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00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: talking about dipping your toe in the water of a

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Speaker 1: pool that some programs are swimming in. Just to give

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Speaker 1: you an eye idea, and Ohio State's compliance department on Nixon,

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Speaker 1: I don't have firsthand knowledge of this. I have spoken

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Speaker 1: to people who have dealt with it at Ohio State,

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: so they would argue, we wish we could loosen the

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00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: reins here. We wish we could really do a lot more.

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00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: So I can just tell you I talk to a

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00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: whole lot of people in the high school world and

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00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: the college world every year about this subject, the subject

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00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: of illegal benefits, the subject of paying players and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: And every time it's the same, aside from the rare

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Speaker 1: exception where you know you'll have an old miss just

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Speaker 1: a rogue program that's doing one twenty and a fifty

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Speaker 1: five zone. By and large, people are okay with what's

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Speaker 1: going on. When I say okay, I don't mean everybody's

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Speaker 1: doing everything exactly by the book. I'm not talking about

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Speaker 1: Ohio State anymore. I'm making a very general statement here.

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Speaker 1: But when you drive through, for instance, Atlanta, Georgia, which

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Speaker 1: is about an hour north of where I grew up.

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00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: I live in Nashville. Now, same deal here. Some of

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Speaker 1: these interstates, some of these seven and eight lane interstates,

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Speaker 1: think they put that sign there to keep everybody going

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Speaker 1: fifty five? Of course not. They keep it there to

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Speaker 1: prevent you from going ninety. The fact of the matter

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Speaker 1: seventy to keep up with the flow of traffic. Do

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Speaker 1: you ever complain about that? As you're going sixty five?

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Speaker 1: Do you look at your window at someone going sixty

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Speaker 1: eight and say, I hope a cop pulls that guy over. No,

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Speaker 1: When the crop rocket flies by you and your family

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Speaker 1: in the back seat of your Volvo going one to ten.

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Speaker 1: That's the guy that you want pulled over. And I

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Speaker 1: know that this burst a lot of bubbles, but the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of programs that's what they're doing. They're doing

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Speaker 1: sixty five and a fifty five. They're doing seventy maybe

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Speaker 1: seventy one, seventy two and fifty five, and no one

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Speaker 1: that group of traffic see someone fly by him doing

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Speaker 1: ninety five, you know what, collectively they make sure happens.

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Speaker 1: They make sure the right people are notified. So the

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Speaker 1: sport kind of polices itself, believe it or not, and

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you don't, but it kind

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Speaker 1: of polices itself. Next up in the podcast review section,

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Brock Vandergriff and how he compares to other

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Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks coming out of high school. Can he give

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Speaker 1: Georgia the bump they need to win it all? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the question about Brock Vandergriff. High school competition is

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Speaker 1: the question. He's from Prince Avenue Christian It's not a

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Speaker 1: high school. You hear a whole lot it's down in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's athletic. He is a plus athlete. I

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Speaker 1: was looking at our Barton Simmons, who had done the

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Speaker 1: latest evaluation of him, and they labeled him as a

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Speaker 1: plus athlete. He's sixty two, about two hundred or so.

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Speaker 1: And the way that I read his profile, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's careful here, I understand what I'm about to say.

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Speaker 1: Let's understand what I'm not saying. It reads a lot

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Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow's profile would read. What did I not say?

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00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Of course, what did I not say? Is I expect

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Speaker 1: him to be the next Joe Burrow. What I think

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Speaker 1: when you ask the question that you asked about, is

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Speaker 1: he the kind of quarterback that can push Georgia over

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Speaker 1: the hump? That is the kind of quarterback I think

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's looking for. He's looking for a guy who

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Speaker 1: is big and physical enough to take the pounding in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. You got to be a good decision maker.

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Speaker 1: You got to be good in the RPO game, which

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Speaker 1: I think vander griff is or shows signs of really

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Speaker 1: good quick release. But also can he make enough plays?

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Speaker 1: Can he improvise enough? Can he extend plays? How's his

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Speaker 1: scramble ability? How is he able to throw on the run,

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Speaker 1: and those are areas that at least our guys at

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven think that vander Griff is really

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Speaker 1: good at already at this early stage and can grow

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Speaker 1: into a guy who does it at a very effective

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Speaker 1: level at the college level, or very effective whatever, you

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Speaker 1: know what I want to say. So, if that's the

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Speaker 1: kind of quarterback George is getting, absolutely he's the kind

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Speaker 1: of quarterback that can push them over that hump. Keep

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Speaker 1: in mind, it's not going to take a really hard push.

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00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: They're already sort of there. So yeah, I think you

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Speaker 1: put some in that conversation. I certainly do. Quick reminder, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is not an ad read. As you can tell,

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Speaker 1: this is still my voice. Five star reviews, they are

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Speaker 1: like gold to us. Keep delivering those. We get more traction,

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Speaker 1: the more attraction we get, the more energy and focus

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Speaker 1: here at twenty four to seven goes into providing this

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Speaker 1: podcast among other very similar products like this, and the

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Speaker 1: more freedom that we get to be able to do

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Speaker 1: whatever we want to do with Late Kick, and that

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Speaker 1: includes again more content like this. So really, as much

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Speaker 1: control as I would like to think I have over this,

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Speaker 1: it's up to you and It's really easy. Doesn't cost

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Speaker 1: you a thing. Subscribe to the podcast, five star reviews,

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Speaker 1: written reviews, and subscribing to the YouTube channel. All that

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Speaker 1: combined cost you zero dollars and zero cent. Moving on,

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Speaker 1: Jackson in the podcast review, Oh Boy, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Gus Malson has actually handed the offensive

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Speaker 1: reins over to Chad Morris? If he hasn't, there's no

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Speaker 1: reason for me to be optimistic about this season. Your words,

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Speaker 1: not mine, Jackson, No, I don't. I'll just be honest

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Speaker 1: with you. I don't. I think it could happen. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you anyone said anything to me one

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Speaker 1: way or the other. In fact, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: Gus Malson told us all did he not? It is

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Speaker 1: gonna be Chad Morris's offense now. If you know, like

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Speaker 1: I think we spoke about last week, the history of

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Speaker 1: Malason at Auburn, it has been kind of like one

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Speaker 1: of those carnival rides where it just goes up one

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Speaker 1: way and then down and then up the other way.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is you got him

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Speaker 1: running his offense and then he's gonna he's gonna hang

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Speaker 1: up his clipboard. I think is the way he put it,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna hand it over and it's gonna be

737
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Speaker 1: Chip Lindsey's offense. But then it really wasn't. And then

738
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Speaker 1: things go sideways, you get a little meddling, and then

739
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Speaker 1: it's his offense again. He's going to be the play caller.

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Speaker 1: Remember the bowl game two years ago against Perdue. I'm

741
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Speaker 1: taking over play calling. Boom, they behead Perdue on national

742
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Speaker 1: TV in the bowl game. Everyone's excited. Malson's back in

743
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: his comfort zone, call and plays. We're going to be fine.

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Speaker 1: Last season happens. I didn't think it was a bad

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Speaker 1: year for him, but the record wasn't good enough for you,

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Speaker 1: And so Chad Morris is fired at Arkansas, really close

747
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: to Malason, really good with quarterbacks, really good play caller,

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Speaker 1: and so Malzon hires him. And there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who would lead you to believe Chad Morris

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Speaker 1: would not have stepped into this situation if he were

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Speaker 1: not given certain guarantees. Now, I think that makes sense,

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Speaker 1: but I also know the track record of Gus Malzon,

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Speaker 1: so Jackson to say that I'm positive, I'm confident that

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00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: these keys have just been tossed to Chad Morris in

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Speaker 1: the parking lot and malson you know just walked away. No,

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you I'm confident in that, Jake. Another

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00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: podcast you hear how many podcast review questions we got

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Speaker 1: this week? I'm telling you, guys, you get in the

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00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: podcast review, you give us a five star review, and

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00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: you put the question in the written review. They're getting answered.

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Speaker 1: Jake says, you have been named emperor of the universe.

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Speaker 1: You get to do whatever you want with the Power five,

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Speaker 1: because apparently, in this world, the first thing an emperor

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Speaker 1: of the universe would do is worry about the postseason

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Speaker 1: structure of college football. Anyway, Jake continues, what do you

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Speaker 1: do with the Power five? You give them their own playoff?

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Speaker 1: Do you approach any G five teams? Well, Jake, two

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Speaker 1: ways to go here. My first inclination, and I think

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Speaker 1: the first inclination of a lot of people is always, well,

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Speaker 1: let's just align everything properly. Let's make everything perfectly symmetrical,

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Speaker 1: and let's make sure that every conference has the same

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Speaker 1: number of teams in the Power five, even if we

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Speaker 1: want them separate from the G five. Let's make sure

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Speaker 1: every conference has the same number of teams. Every conference

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Speaker 1: plays the same number of conference games, no independence out there,

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Speaker 1: everyone in a conference, YadA, YadA, YadA, And I know

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Speaker 1: what the appeal there is. In some ways I lean

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Speaker 1: towards that appeal, But then I think, what do I

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Speaker 1: like about college football? Why do I prefer it over

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Speaker 1: the Sunday game? I watch pro ball, but I like

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Speaker 1: college better. And I think a lot of it has

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Speaker 1: to do with the nuance. Certainly, passion and tradition and

783
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: pageantry has a lot to do with it too, But

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Speaker 1: I love the nuance. I love that there are different

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Speaker 1: ways of doing things, and the sport is kind of

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Speaker 1: this conglomeration of a bunch of different weirdly shaped conferences

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Speaker 1: and weirdly shaped schedules, and some teams aren't even in

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Speaker 1: a conference, and we all just kind of make it work.

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Speaker 1: And it's certainly not a perfectly rounded chunk of playdo

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, but again, we make

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Speaker 1: it work. So if I'm running Power five, like you say,

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Speaker 1: you guys certainly know it's going to be a Power

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Speaker 1: five only playoff, I want a four team Power five

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Speaker 1: only postseason. I want to meet you in the middle

795
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Speaker 1: and give you what you want with your eighteen playoff.

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Speaker 1: You take the G five and you can have any

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Speaker 1: number of teams in the playoff format you want, and

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Speaker 1: we can see how that works out, because there'd still

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Speaker 1: be habs and have nots in the G five, And

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Speaker 1: I think you'd see very quickly that relatively there would

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00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: still be really good strengths of schedules and really poor

802
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: strength to schedules there, and you'd be letting someone in

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00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: that doesn't belong in, and you would see how that

804
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: formula fails to deliver long term. But do it on

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Speaker 1: the G five's time. Don't do it on my time.

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Speaker 1: I'm emperor of the P five. Did you not hear, Jake,

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Speaker 1: I'm the emperor of the P five. I'm not granting

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Speaker 1: automatic bids to conference champions. I'm not doing any of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm largely keeping the system intact as it is. I'm

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00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: just having a separate playoff. Don't know how I'm going

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Speaker 1: to handle Notre Dame. You got to get back to

812
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: me on that one, Jake. I would prefer they be

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Speaker 1: in a conference, but I don't want to force them.

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Speaker 1: You know what peer pressure does. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: force them if the we're moving on now, seventy three

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Speaker 1: Mustang podcast review. Still, if the PAC twelve doesn't play

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00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: this year, could networks space out kickoff times to nine

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Speaker 1: and ten pm Eastern for the other conferences like the

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Speaker 1: SEC and the Big Ten. No, I don't think so

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Speaker 1: at all. Schedules are about two things. They're about windows

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Speaker 1: and inventory. Prime time, the seven pm to eight pm

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Speaker 1: Eastern kickoff, that's the most valuable piece of real estate.

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Speaker 1: I've believed in the last couple of years, people have

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00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: realized that, due to oversaturation in the primetime slot, the

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00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: three point thirty window has become really underrated. But even so,

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Speaker 1: it's the number two window, and then the noon window

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Speaker 1: Eastern is the number three window. And those late kickoffs,

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Speaker 1: those ten eleven o'clock kickoffs, that's the fourth window in

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Speaker 1: terms of desirability. Under no circumstances, just because the PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve product didn't exist this year, would a TV executive say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this game, this old mess Arkansas game that we were

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Speaker 1: going to play at twelve twenty on SEC network, Let's

833
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: move that to ESPN. Let's put on a ten forty

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Speaker 1: five eastern, nine forty five local kickoff. No, I don't

835
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Speaker 1: think that would happen at all just because those slots

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Speaker 1: would be available. No, And it's a lot more complicated

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Speaker 1: than that, But on the surface, no, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's the way that would work. Bryce in the podcast review,

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Speaker 1: what is the main difference that makes up the gap

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00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: between Michigan and Ohio State? Bryce, we actually covered this

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: pretty long form on Late Kick Live, and you can

842
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: go find that video on the twenty four seven Sports

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00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It's pretty fresh within the last couple of shows.

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Speaker 1: But roster, that's it. I don't think we need to

845
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Speaker 1: go any deeper than that. If you want to throw

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00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: out something else, it's all connected. If you want to

847
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: throw out, well, recruiting's been poor, yeah, well that provides

848
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: you with a poor roster. I don't think their recruiting's

849
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: been poor. I think we're going to address that in

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Speaker 1: a second. But development, I mean all that leads to

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Speaker 1: what roster you have the staff, they're responsible for recruiting

852
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and developing your roster. The end result, we still arrive

853
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: at the same thing. It's roster. You got a gap

854
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: between you and the boys in Columbus. You gotta close

855
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 1: it until you do. Moot point Andrew podcast review, how

856
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: well do you think North Dakota State would do playing

857
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve short term? Very competitive, long term poorly. Now,

858
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: of course, what we have to do here is acknowledge

859
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: if North Dakota State were in the PAC twelve, they

860
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: would have much better financial resources than they currently do. Geographically, well,

861
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're in the PAC twelve, they're not

862
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: in North Dakota, you wouldn't think so this is pure

863
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: hypothetical land at this point. But what would happen is

864
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: the long term wear and tear of playing even a

865
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: lower tier Power five conference schedule right now, and that's

866
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: what the PAC twelve is. It would still cumulatively have

867
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: an effect on you. You got to understand something. A

868
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: lot of you are NASCAR fans. I used to watch

869
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: NASCAR a lot. There is a big difference in winning

870
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: the poll at the Coca Cola six hundred versus winning

871
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: the Coca Cola six hundred. To take the poll just

872
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: means you had the fastest qualifying time, and that means

873
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: you get to start number one. So technically, you could

874
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: turn off the TV on Saturday and you'd go home,

875
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: load your hauler up and say, well, we proved that

876
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: we had the fastest car here this weekend, Let's take

877
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: it to the house, let's get ready for next week.

878
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: Or you could have everyone else to yell at you, no, no, no,

879
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: you got to come run the race now. And when

880
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: you run the race, fastest car doesn't always win. Because

881
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: you got forty one I think the field's still forty

882
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: two cars something like that. So you got a bunch

883
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: of other cars around you, a bunch of other terrible

884
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: things can happen. I mean you could have. I've seen

885
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: before paper plates fly out of the stands and get

886
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: caught on the fronts of cars and mess up the

887
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: air intake, and they got to roll into pit road

888
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: and lose a lap to take a paper plate off

889
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: the front of the car. Point being, when you race,

890
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: when you put yourself in the arena, you're exposing yourself

891
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: to all sorts of terrible things happening to where you

892
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: get knocked out of the race fifty six laps in

893
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: and you're done for the day and you're riding home thinking,

894
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: but we had the fastest car. Yep, you may have.

895
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: Just like North Dakota State could beat Oregon State tomorrow

896
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: if they played, I'd probably pick them to win over

897
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: Oregon State tomorrow. What happens when you just keep playing

898
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: these Power five teams with these Power five rosters, because

899
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: even the four and eight teams have kids that were

900
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: good enough to get D one scholarships, and collectively, it

901
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: starts to take a toll on your roster, and you

902
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: realize at that FCS level, even at the top level

903
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: of SCS, you may have some magical years or a

904
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: couple of year stretches where your frontline guyers are good

905
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: enough to hang with some of the big boys. Your

906
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: second string at the SCS level will never be good

907
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: enough to do that, and that would be exposed pretty quickly.

908
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: If you had an FCS team that consistently played even

909
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: a lower tier Power five conference schedule, you'd find that

910
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: out pretty quickly. Let's move on here. There's where we are. Okay,

911
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: Andrew podcast review, How well we just read that one?

912
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: Sorry Andrew got flip pages here again? You hear the

913
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: technical advancement cannot be overstated. I am currently talking in

914
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: my bedroom at my apartment into a blanket that I

915
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: have hung from two open doors. My podcast Mike is

916
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: hooked with a boom arm to my nightstand, and I

917
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: have seven printed out pieces of paper in front of me.

918
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: So again resources the likes of which you cannot even imagine.

919
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: Will in the YouTube comment section, what does Mac Brown

920
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: and North Carolina need to do to consistently win the

921
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: Coastal and meet Clemson in the ACC Championship game. Well,

922
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: consistent is the keyword here. You've got to keep recruiting

923
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: like you have done this cycle, keep that quarterback situation stable,

924
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: which I think it will be. They're set up very

925
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: well there for years to come, especially if Drake may

926
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: pans out. He talked about coaching changes here. Will. That's

927
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: interesting because here's how you build a program. This is

928
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: the philosophy some head coaches have. You put together a

929
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: staff of recruiters to build your roster, and then you

930
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: start an overhaul process in years two, three, and four

931
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: where you start to value x's and o's, strategory, game

932
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: day decision making, game plan install You start to value

933
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: those things more than just can you walk into a

934
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: living room and land a four star linebacker. Does Mac

935
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: Brown think he needs to do that? I don't know,

936
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to watch that. It's just consistency.

937
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: It won't hurt you if the rest of the conference

938
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: lays down like it has been. But I don't know

939
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: if that's realistic over a five year period. But if

940
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: you've got quarterback figured out and you can recruit well

941
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: and you more importantly, I think relative to maybe some

942
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: of these other programs, you have a university that's behind you.

943
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: The financial backings there. We talked about the twenty five

944
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: million dollar single donor gift that was given last week,

945
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: so they're not going to hurt for a lot of

946
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: the resources there. Nikayla on YouTube, what are your thoughts

947
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: on each conference championship? Who will win and why? Which

948
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: conference could pull in Alabama with the loss or no

949
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: entry to the conference championship but still making the playoff. Well,

950
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: clearly we are not ready to make conference championship predictions yet,

951
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, a team I've looked

952
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: at a lot this week that's caught my eye is

953
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: Penn State. Penn State is a team this year if

954
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: you were asking me, Is and Nekaela just did find

955
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: a team out there that could make the playoff without

956
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: making the conference championship game. It's Penn State. If their

957
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,959
Speaker 1: lone loss would be a close home loss to Ohio State,

958
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: or let's say they go to Michigan and lose close

959
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: and they beat Ohio State. Let's say that happens. Let's

960
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: say they go to Virginia Tech early in the year,

961
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: which they do this year, and they lose some freak

962
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: early season game they're favored by fourteen points in then

963
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: when they get the ship righted and they go undefeated

964
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: in their conference, I guess they go to the Big

965
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: Ten championship game at that point. So that's a bad example, Tony,

966
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: don't edit that out. I deserve to be laughed at.

967
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: I do think Penn State is that team, though, if

968
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: we're looking at one, outside the SEC is always where

969
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: you look. But outside the SEC, I would say keep

970
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: an eye on Penn State. YouTube comment here. Do you

971
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: think Florida will have a better or god forbid worse

972
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: run game than last year? And do you think the

973
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: run game is going to be crucial for Florida to

974
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: make or close the gap from being a good offense

975
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: to a great offense to maybe an elite offense. Big

976
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: question for me here and that is the Florida Gator

977
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: run game. Damian Pierce will be their workhorse this year, probably,

978
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: and I think that he is a solid option behind him.

979
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: They picked up Linguard from I believe Miami. That's a

980
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: pivotal piece. That's one of the most important pieces in

981
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: the SEC this year. If he pans out, and he's

982
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: a guy, if he does pan out, he gives him

983
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: that more explosive element, little change pace element running back

984
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: you look past him? Is Malik Davis? I think it's

985
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: listed as their number three? Is that a guy I

986
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: can count on beyond him? Is there a stable of

987
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: running backs here? And here's what I'm asking for if

988
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: they're healthy all year? Irrelevant? What happens if Damian Pierce

989
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: is nicked up? What if you're watching them play Tennessee

990
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: early first quarter he limps over to the sideline. What

991
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: proven does Florida have in the backfield? What do you

992
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: really feel like you can go to war with in

993
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: the backfield if Peerce is not there? Are you shaking

994
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: your head? Are you shrugging? Or are you overly optimistic?

995
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, are you counting on the names I just mentioned?

996
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: Do you know about a guy I don't know about now?

997
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: I think it'll be maybe a more complimentary facet to

998
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: their offense this year than maybe in years past because

999
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: of the way that they'll be able to do things

1000
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: with Kyle Trask. I think that I'm pretty confident in

1001
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: saying that. So we'll see ethan YouTube. Why is nobody

1002
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: talking about Wisconsin as a legit Big Ten contender the

1003
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: same way people talk about Penn State. They don't have

1004
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: the flashy recruits like other teams, but they have a

1005
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: solid coach, a potentially elite quarterback in Graham Mertz, and

1006
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: they have a traditionally great offensive and defensive line under Mertz?

1007
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: What is the ceiling for Wisconsin? Now, you guys who

1008
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: are not Wisconsin football fans, you're in the middle of

1009
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: the offseason. The last thing on your mind is probably

1010
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: it may not even be your own team, much less

1011
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: a team outside of your immediate line of sight. So

1012
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: what's happening in Wisconsin's fascinating here, you Wisconsin Badger fans,

1013
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: and know what I'm talking about. Jack Doan, I think

1014
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: has been the starter at quarterback there since nineteen ninety six,

1015
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: and so they just went to the Rose Bowl last year.

1016
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: They were competitive, They had a good year. In fact,

1017
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: Doan had probably quite a few passing records that he

1018
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: set last year or really good numbers he put up

1019
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: that just flew under the radar because you are right, Ethan,

1020
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: Wisconsin is a program I think has flown under the

1021
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: radar a little while. There's some big shadows that they're

1022
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: in up there. But here's what's happening at Wisconsin. A

1023
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: lot of want Graham Mertz to start. He think will

1024
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: be a red shirt freshman this year. He is a

1025
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: guy who really personifies that old axiom of the most

1026
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: popular player in your program as the backup quarterback. That's

1027
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: really the case, especially now that Jonathan Taylor's gone. That

1028
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: is really the case at Wisconsin. They are all in

1029
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: a vast majority of Badger fans that I've heard from,

1030
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: are all in on the idea that they've got maybe

1031
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: a more filtered version of the Jalen Hurts Tua situation

1032
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: where Tua was on the bench, but Alabama insiders kept

1033
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: telling you, hey, he's better than Jalen Hurts if he

1034
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: gets a shot. If he ever gets a shot, he'll

1035
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: take that job. They think they have that there. I just, man,

1036
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm not always a believer that just because you're the incumbent,

1037
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: you deserve the job. And I don't know Wisconsin football

1038
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: as well as you guys do This is one of

1039
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: those situations. Just like with Tua and Hurts, They're going

1040
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: to be people close to the program who know what

1041
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: they're talking about. And if those reliable people are telling

1042
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: me and telling you, Mertz is the guy man, we

1043
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: have hit our ceiling with Doan. He's good and that's

1044
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: all he'll ever be. And our ceiling is higher than

1045
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: just good with this red shirt freshman. I'm all for it.

1046
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: But you know who else has to be all for it?

1047
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: I think you know the answer to this. Yeah, that

1048
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: head coach talking about there, Paul christ He's got to

1049
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: be all for it too. Now, just as much as

1050
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: you could have one of those Jalen Hurts to a

1051
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: tongue of Ailoa deals, you also could have one of

1052
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: those to come back to a situation, I'm familiar with

1053
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: Joey Gatewood bow Knicks deals, and that was the Auburn

1054
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: situation last year where a lot of folks were convinced

1055
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: since Gatewood had the measurables of Cam Newton, he was

1056
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: their next Cam Newton, and he wasn't, and he did

1057
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: not win the job, and bo Nicks ended up starting

1058
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: in Gatewood transferred to Kentucky and since Auburn didn't go

1059
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: undefeated and won a national championship last year, you have

1060
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: people saying, see, see, we should have started Gatewood. No,

1061
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: you shouldn't. He made the right decision. And let me

1062
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: tell you what else. Paul Christ is going to make

1063
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: the right decision this year too. He's going to make

1064
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: the decision to start the guy who gives them the

1065
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: best chance to win. Now, you may watch Graham Mertz,

1066
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: and you may hear reviews from what he does and

1067
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: closed scrimmages, and you may say, why aren't we starting

1068
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: that guy that gives us more potential? Well, what Paul

1069
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Christ is looking for is not what a guy can do.

1070
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: He's not looking for a guy that can do it right.

1071
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: What they want at quarterback is a guy who has

1072
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: repped it so much that he can't do it wrong,

1073
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: or you get as close to that as possible. And

1074
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: if they believe that's Dome, then they're going with Dome,

1075
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: and if not, they'll go with Mertz. Now I'm as

1076
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: curious as you guys are, Maybe not quite as curious,

1077
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: but I am curious, So I'll be watching that. Let's continue.

1078
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh man, we made it through another page, all right, Jared.

1079
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Last year, particularly before the SEC Championship game with LSU,

1080
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: you pointed out that it's high as George's defense was

1081
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: being touted and ranked, their pass rush was a major

1082
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: weakness that would end up hurting them. Well, you were

1083
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct. Do you think that's an issue

1084
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: that's improved this year? If so, which players do you

1085
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: think are capable of improving the pass rush? Jared, Yes,

1086
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: I do, Jared, I do think that here are three

1087
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: names that won't be involved all that much in the

1088
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: pass rush from your front seven that are gonna have

1089
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: a lot to do with how good your pass rush is. Stokes, Campbell,

1090
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: look count you know the names. Those are names. If

1091
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: you've watched Eric Stokes, if you watch Tyson Campbell. Those

1092
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: are some of the best corners in America. They were

1093
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: last year, they will certainly be this year. And they

1094
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: got other one. They got several of them. Actually, behind

1095
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: these names, I don't need to read you George's defensive

1096
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: depth chart, but guys that they've recruited Nolan Smith most notably,

1097
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: but just look at the body, the physical makeup of

1098
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: like Jermaine Johnson. Quay Walker is another really good one.

1099
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: Quay Walker is a guy that they would not have

1100
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: re rooted as an inside linebacker five years ago. That

1101
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: is one Now they are shifting towards being more athletic upfront.

1102
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: All that's done with pass rush in mind. I know

1103
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: they have been very obsessed about it for two years.

1104
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: But see Jordan Davis, guys like that, they're big cloggers

1105
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: in the interior. Those are guys that you know, if

1106
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: they're going to maximize that pass rush ability, those are

1107
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: guys that have to be able to get a push

1108
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: inside too, and that's a tough job to be able

1109
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: to stop the run against some of the more physical

1110
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: teams that you're going to play, but also be a

1111
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: three down player, which is what they ultimately want out

1112
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: of guys like Davis as they get further into their careers,

1113
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: they want as many three down guys as possible. It's

1114
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: a tough chore. That's a really tough chore. But I

1115
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: know that they're very high on Davis, like they think

1116
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: that he, among others, could be I could fit that

1117
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: bill And if they do, yeah, I think they'll be

1118
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: improved pass rush this year and a coverage in the

1119
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: secondary will go a long way and making them look

1120
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: really good. Dakota on YouTube. Been having some discussion with

1121
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: my friends. We've come to the conclusion that Bama versus

1122
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: LSU could potentially change the power of the SEC West.

1123
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: That makes it more important than last year's game in

1124
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: a sense of proving LSU could do it versus showing

1125
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: it can be done back to back. One is a

1126
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: hole in the ship. Two becomes reputation. That's my question.

1127
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Do you agree or do you think Alabama would just

1128
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: shrug off another loss to LSU. No, they wouldn't shrug

1129
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: off another loss to LSU. There is no shame in

1130
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: getting beat by five points by Joe Burrow and that

1131
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: crew they had last year, all time college football team,

1132
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: and you had your quarterback rehabbing from injury, fighting to

1133
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: even be able to play in the game, and it's

1134
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: competitive and you're just you're the second best team on

1135
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: the field that day. There's no shame in that you

1136
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: lose to them two years in a row. Yeah, there'd

1137
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: be problems there. There would be problems. Now you're talking

1138
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: about this year, last year, in this year, think about this,

1139
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: you know this almost happened. I was thinking back in

1140
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, I was at that game, that game of

1141
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: the century, the nine to six game, which I thought

1142
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: was great, and some of you who wanted to watch

1143
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: video games all day you thought it was terrible. But

1144
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: I've never seen defensive football played at that level before.

1145
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: Forty two or forty three players on those rosters went

1146
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: on to be drafted in the NFL. But yeah, I'm

1147
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: sure the offenses were just terrible. Hung forty on like

1148
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: everyone else. Both of them did all year. But I'm

1149
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: sure both of those offenses were terrible. So anyway, sarcasm

1150
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: so anyway, But think about this, LSU went into Tuscaloosa

1151
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: and won that game that year. Now they meet again

1152
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: in the National Championship game, which was the right matchup.

1153
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: What if LSU would have won that one? You ever

1154
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: think about that? How different would history have viewed Nick Saban?

1155
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: And if you'll remember the following year, even though LSU

1156
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: got beat in the National Championship game, they're in Baton Rouge.

1157
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: The following year, LSU's got Bama on the ropes again.

1158
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: That was the Yelden screen, the mckierreen to Yelden with

1159
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: under a minute to go, Alabama takes the lead. They

1160
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: almost beat him again the next year. That's why I

1161
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: was never a believer that Alabama had just been dominating LSU.

1162
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: They ran off a string of games, they had a

1163
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: really impressive winning streak. Guys, they weren't beating them by

1164
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: four touchdowns every year. I mean there were multiple games

1165
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: there where fractions of an inch one way or the other.

1166
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean by the width of a piece of paper.

1167
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: Alabama's winning some of those games. Now, that's all that matters,

1168
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: is winning the game. But there's a big difference in

1169
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: having an edge in a rivalry versus dominating a rivalry.

1170
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: Alabama had not dominated LSU. And you want to know something,

1171
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: they didn't think they had either. They knew that they

1172
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: were better. They knew that cumulatively, all the work and

1173
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: all the effort that they were putting in made them

1174
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: that much better, just those margins better on game day.

1175
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: They were building their entire program to compete against LSU.

1176
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: They viewed LSU as the biggest challenge in America to

1177
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: them staying where they wanted to be every single year.

1178
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: That was the most important game in college football. They

1179
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: knew it. While everyone else, maybe outside in the periphery,

1180
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,959
Speaker 1: wants to talk iron bowl, iron bowl, iron, it was about.

1181
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: LSU has been for a decade plus for Alabama. Now,

1182
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: that's who they have always built to stop. That's who

1183
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: they've built to be able to beat. That's always been

1184
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: the case. So they if they knew they were dominating LSU,

1185
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been building with them in mind anymore.

1186
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: When's the last time Alabama built a team to stop Arkansas?

1187
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: They dominated Arkansas, They've dominated Mississippi State and dominated LSU.

1188
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: They beat them consecutively a lot of times. Some of

1189
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: them were more convincing than others. Some of them were

1190
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: back and forth fifty nine percent type deals. I mean,

1191
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: there are a couple of games Bama won there where

1192
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: they probably don't win those games fifty or more percent

1193
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: of the time. Of course, the only one that matters

1194
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: is the one they play. But I get a little

1195
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: worked up some times when people say, oh, Alabama just

1196
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: dominated LSU for that string of years. No, the Ohio

1197
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: State's dominating Michigan right now. You want to see what

1198
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: dominance looks like. Choosing to cut off the engines when

1199
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: you get over fifty points against your biggest right, that

1200
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: is dominance. That's not quite what Bama was doing to LSU.

1201
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Let's see. Okay, moving on Rusty, our profitability of name, image,

1202
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: and likenesses factoring into the recruitment of high profile players.

1203
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: Every single one of them, Rusty, every single one of them.

1204
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: That's as simple as I can make it. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

1205
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: every single one of them. Jay Ferg in the email inbox,

1206
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: I noticed you said Tennessee has to win one of

1207
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: their four biggest games this year Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, Georgia.

1208
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: Do you think Tennessee will actually win one of those games?

1209
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: Which one do you think Tennessee will have the best

1210
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: shot at in those four? Yes, I believe they'll win

1211
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: one of them. If I were to put the over

1212
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: under on this, I would say one and a half

1213
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: is the over runner, and then I wouldn't choose right now. Yeah,

1214
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: I think they'll win one of them. In order of

1215
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: relatively easiest and most difficult, I would say the Florida

1216
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: game is the one that got the best shot at,

1217
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: followed by Oklahoma, followed by Georgia, followed by Alabama. That's

1218
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: something we'll talk a lot more about as the season

1219
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: gets closer. Kat Train in the email inbox. The Big

1220
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: Twelve has an interesting mix of new coaches. Neil Brown

1221
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: at West Virginia. I'm going to be doing something with

1222
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: Neil Brown soon. Actually, stay tuned for that. Chris Climbing

1223
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: at Kansas State, Less Miles at Kansas, and Dave Randa

1224
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: at Baylor. Oklahoma is dominant. That's not likely to change.

1225
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: But which out of those four new head coaches are

1226
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: best equipped to make a run in the Big Twelve.

1227
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: I think it's Dave Randa. The reason I think it's

1228
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: Dave Randa is because I think that a lot of

1229
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: the experiment that Matt Campbell has run at Iowa State

1230
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: could be duplicated at Baylor. Not saying that they're identical

1231
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: head coaches or even in their approach they're identical, but

1232
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: I think that you and I could both agree Iowa

1233
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: State plays a different brand of football by necessity than

1234
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State or Oklahoma and they've been affected. And the

1235
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: reason I think is because people have become so conditioned

1236
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 1: and so calibrated to dealing with pinball machine offenses every

1237
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: week in the Big Twelve, it doesn't really take you

1238
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: by surprise anymore. What takes you by surprise is when

1239
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: a team is really physical and when a team really

1240
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: invests one hundred and ten percent defensively, and I think

1241
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: that's what a Dave Randa team could do. Now here's

1242
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: the advantage he has. He is in Waco, Texas. He's

1243
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: got access to a lot more of that East Texas talent.

1244
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: And this is no knock on the athletes they produce

1245
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: out of Iowa, but there aren't many in Iowa. So

1246
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: I look at what Matt Campbell's done and building a

1247
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: really steady program up there, and I just wonder if

1248
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: you infuse a little bit more talent into that product,

1249
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: could that be what Dave Randa builds at Baylor. We

1250
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: will see, Steven and the email inbox on your YouTube

1251
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: video I watched recently. You said the gap between Ohio

1252
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: State and Michigan comes down to roster. Hey, I did

1253
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: say that. I disagree. Well, thanks, Steven, I disagree. The

1254
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: word you should use is development. Harbaugh has consistently had

1255
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: good recruits, but completely fails to develop them. I'd like

1256
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts. I disagree with that. I went

1257
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: back and I looked, and he has had good recruiting classes.

1258
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: That's where I'd stop. They haven't recruited great, They've recruited

1259
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: good to very good over the past one, two, three,

1260
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: four five, over the past six years. Here's where they

1261
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: finished in the twenty four seven Sports Team recruiting rankings.

1262
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Thirty seventh. Now, obviously that's the year that they took

1263
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: over and they had like two minutes to put a

1264
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: class together. Then they had two top ten classes, number

1265
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: eight and number five. That's really good recruiting. Number twenty

1266
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: two the following year, number eight the year after that,

1267
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: and number fourteen the year after that. What have they

1268
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: done with those players, Well, they've had fifteen of them

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Speaker 1: drafted in the past two years. They've had three first

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Speaker 1: rounders in the past two years. They've had six go

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Speaker 1: in the top three rounds. Stephen, that is exactly what

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01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: I would expect someone to do who has recruited. What

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: would that average be. They've recruited about, on average a

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01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: number ten class somewhere around there, about about eight to

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Speaker 1: twelve's on average. That's exactly what I would expect that

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01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of program, that kind of recruiting effort to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've underdeveloped players at all. I just

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01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: there is no top three class they've recruited here. And

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Speaker 1: then you think to yourself, how Ohio State's there every year,

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01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: Alabama's there every year, Clemson's up there now haven't been

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Speaker 1: every year, but they will be from here moving forward.

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01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that is the gap. I don't know how

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: much clearer you can make this. That is the gap.

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Speaker 1: Chris and the email in box. In recent shows, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned several times how Tennessee needs a program defining when

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01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty against one of the Big Four opponents,

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01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: we just talked about that. Actually, that reminds me of

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01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: when Mississippi State went into LSU with Dak Prescott beat

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01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: the crap out of LSU for the first time in

1290
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: twenty years, definitely put him on a nice trajectory until

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01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: Mullen left. What would a program defining win for Arkansas, Ole,

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Speaker 1: miss or Mississippi State look like? Are these schools even

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Speaker 1: in position to have one of those in twenty twenty?

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Speaker 1: I think that, Boy, it's hard to see because I mean,

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01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: it's obvious who they would come against. They would come

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Speaker 1: against Bama, LSU. I don't know if any of those

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Speaker 1: teams played Georgia this year, Old miss plays Florida. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, that'd be a good one. I believe that

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: Mississippi State and Ole miss would probably be in better

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01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: position only because I believe that they have head coaches

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01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: and they have systems that are being installed this year.

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: That could be the proverbial stun gun to the neck

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01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: of an opponent. You don't really fully know what to expect.

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: You got John Rice Plumblee at Ole Miss, and you've

1305
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize that they have imported

1306
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: kJ Costello at Mississippi State, the recent Stanford quarterback transfer.

1307
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: It's not that you expect them to have an offensive

1308
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: product that lights the world on fire. It's just that

1309
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: if they did, you could reasonably say, well, crazier things

1310
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: have happened, and so those were be the ones that

1311
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: I'd look at, and we know who they got to

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: beat for the program defining when Bryce in the email inbox,

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: would you consider Donovan Edwards an elite talent that Michigan

1314
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: desperately needs even though he's a running back. What are

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01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: the odds they land him? I think Michigan is the leader.

1316
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: This is a four star running back from the state

1317
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: of Michigan. I don't know that this is a guy

1318
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: that Michigan has to have one way or the other.

1319
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't think any program in America is hinging on

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: the recruitment and commitment of a running back. When's the

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01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: last Well, let me ask you this, When is the

1322
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: last time you watched Michigan and you said in retrospect

1323
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: after they lost a game or at the end of

1324
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: the year, well, if we would have had one more

1325
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: four star running back, this entire season would have been different.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you sit there and think? Because I

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: think about quarterback, That's what I've thought. I've thought about

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01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: offensive line. I thought about getting those pieces around the

1329
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: running back position fixed. Ironically, Jeffrey on Twitter, given how

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01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 1: the big game or oh excuse me, let me rephrase this, Tony,

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: you can edit that one out if you want to,

1332
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: or leave it in. I don't care. Jeffrey on Twitter asks,

1333
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: given how big the game was and how it ended,

1334
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: why is Georgia Alabama from twenty seventeen for the national

1335
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: title not considered the greatest college football game of all time?

1336
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: Recentcy That's why, Jeffrey, college football, when they talk about

1337
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, it's kind of like baseball.

1338
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: People are really hesitant to mess with the romanticism and

1339
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: history of the game. Now, what I mean by that is,

1340
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: if Babe Ruth showed up to play for the Red

1341
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: Sox today, Babe Ruth wouldn't be viewed the same way

1342
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: we view Babe Ruth from when he actually played in

1343
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: the twenties. So there's a lot of romanticism. And it's

1344
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: really hard to get someone who's covered the sport for

1345
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: forty plus years to watch something and right after word say, yep,

1346
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: that's the best fill in the blank I've ever seen.

1347
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: I believe it is the best game when you talk

1348
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: about I mean, the comparison is O five Rose Bowl

1349
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: USC Texas, right, the comparison is what's at stake. A

1350
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: national championship was at stake. Think about this though, Now,

1351
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: if you're from Oregon, it may not have hit you

1352
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: like it did me. You got to picture me. I

1353
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: grew up in again Harris County, Georgia. That county borders

1354
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: the Chattahoochie River. The Chattahoochie River splits Georgia and Alabama.

1355
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: I grew up as on the border as I possibly could.

1356
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: Between those two programs, I grew up with a ton

1357
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: of Bama fans, a ton of Georgia buddies. I've been

1358
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: in that immersed in those two my whole life, along

1359
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: with Auburn, those are the three programs I was the

1360
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: closest to do you understand what it was like. It

1361
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: was one of those they're going to talk about this

1362
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: for a thousand years type deals. When you see Georgia

1363
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: versus Alabama for an SEC championship, it's a big deal.

1364
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: For a national championship. Again, it's like when you watch

1365
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: the movie Troy and Achilles says, they'll be talking about

1366
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: this war for a thousand years. That's kind of the

1367
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: way people viewed that game down there. And remember this,

1368
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: The previous year's SEC Offensive Player of the Year, who

1369
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: is twenty six and two as a starter at quarterback,

1370
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: is benched at halftime for a dude who has not

1371
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: played meaningful action all year, and Bama goes from being

1372
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: shut out at halftime to coming back and winning the

1373
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: game in overtime a walk off touchdown to win a

1374
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: national championship game with a true freshman backup quarterback. Find

1375
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: me something that's happened that is more noteworthy than that.

1376
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: What game is better than that? What element? Let me

1377
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: ask it this way, did that game lack that another

1378
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: game had in more abundant supply I don't know. Here's

1379
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: the only thing I didn't like about that setup. That

1380
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: was a national championship game. It was the week after

1381
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: playoffs or the semi final games, obviously, And what I

1382
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: didn't like is they gave six days for the build up.

1383
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't a two week deal. You had the games

1384
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: and then you had seven days between the semi finals

1385
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: and the national championship game, which is insane because if

1386
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 1: you'll remember, it was Georgia over Oklahoma and a classic

1387
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, it was Bama over Clemson in that redemption game.

1388
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: Clemson to beating Bama the fall or the previous year,

1389
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 1: and so you had this month build up to those

1390
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: big matchups and then it's like you got to get

1391
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: over those in twenty four hours and get ready for

1392
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: a national championship. And I can remember thinking, Man, I

1393
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: feel numb. I'd been I'd been in New Orleans covering

1394
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl down there, and Bama beats Clemson and

1395
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: it's like, are you serious They're about to play a

1396
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: game of this magnitude in six days. That's all I

1397
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: didn't like about it. Otherwise, Jeffrey, I agree with you.

1398
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: I do view it as the biggest one I've ever seen.

1399
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: I'll say that, Christian email in box. Do you think

1400
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle and Cincinnati can replicate what Central Florida did,

1401
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: but for a much longer period of time. If so,

1402
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,839
Speaker 1: do you think it could result in a playoff appearance

1403
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: before Fickle is snatched up by a Power five school. Yes,

1404
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: I believe they could border on that playoff conversation. I

1405
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: don't believe they can sustain any kind of run, only

1406
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: because of what you said, Christian. I mean, if they're

1407
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: sustaining a run like that, it means they're going unfeeded

1408
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: every year or one loss every year. And if they're

1409
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: doing that, you know as well as I do, it's

1410
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: only a matter of time before Fickle's grabbing a major

1411
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: job somewhere, so their success would be ultimately the price

1412
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: that they had to pay him. The price that they

1413
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: would pay is losing the coach that was responsible for

1414
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: the success. And I think Fickle's going to tear it

1415
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: up there as long as he is there. It's he

1416
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: is not long for Cincinnati. I really don't believe he is.

1417
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: And that's a compliment to him and a compliment to

1418
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati football. Josh in the email in box, huge Florida fan.

1419
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm predicting they'll win the SEC this year. Now listen

1420
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: to this breakdown, folks, Josh continues, love the name, by

1421
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: the way, Josh continues. LSU lost Joe Burrow and Joe Brady,

1422
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: Georgia lost Jake from and Swift, Alabama lost Tua and

1423
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of others. Ole miss has Lane Kiffin laughable,

1424
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 1: He says, in parentheses, Mississippi State, Kentucky, Vandy, Tennessee, Missouri.

1425
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: They haven't made any noise in years. We just eliminated

1426
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: half the conference. The only team I can see being

1427
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: a problem is Texas A and M. The Florida Gators

1428
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: have a great quarterback, a great squad, Kyle Trask will

1429
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: be in the Heisman conversation. We got a lot of

1430
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: running backs, a phenomenal coach who's turned our program around.

1431
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: Who can upset Florida this year? Well, Josh, I like

1432
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: the optimism, buddy, and I think that Florida's got about

1433
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: as good a shot as anyone to win the East.

1434
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: Now I would, In fact, I don't know where I'm

1435
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: ready to lean yet on that. And luckily it's May.

1436
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: As we sit here and record, I will say, and

1437
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: let me just costion you ever so slightly. You got

1438
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 1: a quality squad coming back. You are not without holes.

1439
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you just kind of glossed over. We got

1440
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: a lot of running backs who we just mentioned that

1441
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: earlier in this podcast, Damien Pearson, who I know, the

1442
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: glass half full mentality would lead you to expect best

1443
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: case from everyone, but that's never what happens, even for

1444
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: teams who win a championship. That's not really what happens.

1445
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have some holes to fill there as well.

1446
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact of the matter is, if you

1447
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: played Texas A and M on a neutral field today

1448
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: at point spread's under six either way Georgia, ditto Alabama,

1449
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: you'd be a decided underdog against LSU. Very close to

1450
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: pick them, I would imagine if not slightly leaned towards LSU.

1451
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about point spread here, I'm not talking about

1452
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: anything else. Now, a point spread doesn't determine a game.

1453
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, I'm just kind of giving

1454
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: you the perspective of maybe the odds makers in Vegas

1455
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: of how they view Florida. You asked me who could

1456
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: upset Florida? Josh It would be an upset for Florida

1457
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: to beat a couple of these teams that you listed.

1458
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: They can do it, They can certainly do it. But

1459
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: I do find it fascinating you've viewed A and M

1460
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: as a bigger threat than Alabama. That's fascinating. Maybe you

1461
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: know something I don't. We'll see, all right. I saved

1462
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: this one towards the end, so I wanted to break

1463
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: this one down a little bit Ryan on Twitter. Now,

1464
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: I encourage you guys to make your questions as succinct

1465
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 1: as possible. Ryan just took that and balled it up,

1466
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: through it out the window. But he delivered something that's good.

1467
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: So let's work through it. Ryan says, I agree the

1468
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: playoffs should stay at four teams. I'm on the fence

1469
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: about auto bids, sort of depending on whether it gets

1470
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: extended six or eight. Where I disagree is when you've

1471
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: talked about best teams and downplaying undefeated seasons. All right, now,

1472
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: a lot of you share the sentiment, so you're going

1473
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: to speak vicariously through Ryan here. First, on the best

1474
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: team argument, let's go to twenty eighteen. I think Georgia

1475
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: in that year is a perfect example of this. I

1476
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: think most would agree that Georgia was just as good,

1477
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: if not better than Oklahoma. They were probably better than

1478
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: Notre Dame two. I'm curious whether you thought Georgia should

1479
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: have gotten in at the time. I personally didn't, and

1480
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: I still don't think they should have made the playoff.

1481
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: They had their shot at Alabama, they didn't win, tag

1482
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: that onto the LSU loss, and I think they deserve

1483
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: to be out. All right, let's pause there. No, I

1484
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 1: didn't think Georgia deserved to be in in twenty eighteen,

1485
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: but it didn't have anything to do with them having

1486
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: their shot against Alabama. That's not the way the playoff works.

1487
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: You know. The playoff is another world to me. You

1488
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: have the regular season and your conference championship games, and

1489
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: then everyone just has a body of work. That's it.

1490
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: You have a body of work. There is no Okay, well,

1491
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: Alabama's in the playoff. If you play at Alabama and

1492
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: you didn't beat them, you're automatically out because you already

1493
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: got your shot. Let's give someone else a shot. No,

1494
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: it's about measuring your resume. I don't care if you

1495
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: played Alabama twice and lost to them by two points

1496
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: each time. If those are the only two losses on

1497
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: your resume, and there aren't three resumes better than yours.

1498
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: You're coming in and you may get a third shot

1499
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: at Alabama. Having said that, I did not believe Georgia

1500
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: belonged in that year, And I'll tell you why it's caused.

1501
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: The LSU game you mentioned they got blown out by LSU.

1502
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: They didn't lose narrowly, they got blown out. And what

1503
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: happened was we got to the end of the year.

1504
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: And this is where it is not merely a power

1505
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: rating game with me. You're going to go on to

1506
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: mention later in this point about power versus merit. Well,

1507
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: that's what it's about here, Georgia. If I'm going to

1508
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: power rate that team that year, you know, if someone

1509
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: had a gun to each of our heads at the

1510
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: end of the season and Georgia was going to play

1511
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame just neutral field, straight up, they're going to play,

1512
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: who would we have picked? You and I both probably

1513
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: picked Georgia to win the game, But yet we both

1514
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: agree Notre Dame should have made the playoff, which they did.

1515
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: That was the Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame, Oklahoma. That was

1516
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: the one through four. Well, that's the merit I'm telling

1517
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: you right now. I think Georgia was one of the

1518
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: four most powerful teams that year, but I don't think

1519
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: that they were one of the foremost deserving. So I

1520
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: have plenty of room for merit in my discussion here.

1521
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: Maybe if not for the exact reasons you have, but

1522
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: we still align there, so then we move on. You

1523
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: disagree with the statement you're only as good as your

1524
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: record says you are. While I see where you're coming from,

1525
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: I think it gets too subjective if you remove it.

1526
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: Obviously everything is affected by a team schedule, but if

1527
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: you truly just go best for teams, I think you'll

1528
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: end up penciling in Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, and the

1529
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: SEC number two unless they have huge down seasons. Yeah,

1530
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: that could happen. Those, I don't know if you've noticed,

1531
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 1: are really good teams every year. But again, what I

1532
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: just told you is I'm not automatically putting in the

1533
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: teams that have had the highest average recruiting rankings the

1534
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: last four years and have the best rosters. That's power rating.

1535
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: I'm involving merit. I'm absolutely involving merit. But even as

1536
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: I do that, you better belie with my system, Alabama's

1537
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna have a whole lot more likely chance of making

1538
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: the playoff in a given year than South Carolina is

1539
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 1: they're better. I know in any given year they're gonna

1540
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: be better. So yeah, it's likely they're gonna be involved there. Clemson,

1541
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: it's highly likely they're going to be involved. It's not

1542
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 1: a certainty, all right, He continues, Sorry for rambling, but

1543
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,879
Speaker 1: I feel like you give the teams who are expected

1544
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: to be top five year in and year out an

1545
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: added and unneeded advantage. Maybe that becomes less of a

1546
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: problem and an extended playoff anyway, No, it doesn't. No,

1547
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna lean same teams. You're just gonna put

1548
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: a few more in unfortunately. But see Ryan said. The

1549
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: thing about record here, and what I've said about record

1550
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: is in the NFL, I believe in the saying you

1551
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 1: are what your record says you are. That's pro ball.

1552
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 1: The overall equality of strength of schedule is in another

1553
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,919
Speaker 1: galaxy compared to the difference in a strength of schedule

1554
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: depending on on which conference you're playing in, So you

1555
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 1: are not always what your record says you are. In college.

1556
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Ryan continues, Also, I disagree with you downplaying a thirteen

1557
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: and oh regular season conference champ. I'm not saying that

1558
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: you can't have a twelve and one or eleven and

1559
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: one team ranked higher than an unbeaten team, but you

1560
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: can't leave them out, Ryan, Yeah, I certainly can leave

1561
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: them out, depending on what that thirteen wins consist of.

1562
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: You better believe I can leave them out. And brother,

1563
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: let me go with this far. There are some two

1564
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: loss teams I would put in over some undefeated teams. Now,

1565
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: let me get to the argument you're about to make.

1566
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: Oregon should not be punished for the PAC twelve being terrible. Ryan,

1567
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: there is no scenario on God's Green Earth where I

1568
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: see Oregon going thirteen and oh and being left out

1569
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: of a playoff. I couldn't even envision me arguing for that.

1570
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about G five teams ninety nine percent of

1571
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: the time. When I'm talking about an undefeated team potentially

1572
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: being left out, I'm talking about G five teams. You continue,

1573
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: all you can do is win the games you have

1574
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: on your schedule. That's right, right. It's not your fault.

1575
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: It's not the player's fault, it's not the sophomore right

1576
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: guard's fault. If you play everybody that you're supposed to

1577
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: play and none of them are better than the number

1578
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: seventy team in the country, that's not your fault. But

1579
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: it's not Clemson's fault, it's not Oklahoma's fault. What are

1580
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: they supposed to do? Go ten and two with even

1581
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: with their two losses, them having six wins better than

1582
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: your best win. But kind of step to the side

1583
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: and say, well, thirteen and OH can't leave them out.

1584
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: You better believe I can leave them out, and I'd

1585
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: gladly do it. Well, not gladly. I don't like to

1586
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: see people cry. But listen, man, thirteen and O is

1587
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: not always deserving. Where do you draw the line? By

1588
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: the way, if everyone, if some people are in agreement

1589
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: that thirteen and oh should be just an automatic pass

1590
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: to the playoff, no matter what. What if I played

1591
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 1: thirteen high school teams, I'm thirteen to oh. Some of

1592
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: you guys tell me that's the hardest thing in sports

1593
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: to do, go thirteen to O. I'm telling you that's garbage.

1594
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there are fifteen Power five programs who

1595
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: in any given year could run the slate of some

1596
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: of these G five schedules. I'm telling you there are

1597
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: no G five teams who could go eleven and one

1598
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: against the schedule that South Carolina just played last year.

1599
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: None zero. I'm telling you there are no G five

1600
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: teams out there that are going eleven and one, forget

1601
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: about undefeated eleven and one against A and M schedule

1602
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: last year, None of them. I'm telling you A and

1603
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: M would be favored twelve out of twelve in some

1604
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: of these G five schedules. That doesn't mean that win

1605
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 1: them all, but it does mean that they would have

1606
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: a high likelihood of going undefeated. A and M was

1607
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: like a seven or eight win team last year. You

1608
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: know what, The only difference was the conference they played in.

1609
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: Don't tell me thirteen and oh thirteen and oh no,

1610
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: it's not No, it's not at all in college at least. Oh,

1611
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm sweating. The thermometer says seventy two in here, I'm

1612
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: sweating Bogden on Twitter. How big is the gap for

1613
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: you between college football and the NFL and why the

1614
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon Bogden? Well, it's not nearly that small. It's

1615
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot bigger than that. Here's why, I know for

1616
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: a fact, every Sunday when I watch an NFL team play,

1617
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: the worst player on that roster is an NFL player,

1618
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: not only an NFL caliber player. Not only did he

1619
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: get drafted or signed, he actually made all the cuts

1620
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: and he is on the fifty two man roster. You

1621
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: know how good you have to be to do that.

1622
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 1: There is no college football team on planet Earth that

1623
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,879
Speaker 1: has any kind of depth like that. First off, Secondly,

1624
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: the most talented teams. LSU won the National championship last year,

1625
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: and you could make an argument was the best college

1626
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: football team of all time. If not, you could make

1627
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: an argument they're one of There are offensive linemen on

1628
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,799
Speaker 1: LSU's team last year that won't play in the NFL.

1629
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: There's some defensive players from last year's team that won't

1630
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: even play in the NFL. Do you know, I want

1631
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 1: you to think about this for a second. If you

1632
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: have a team that's loaded, and let's say you're like

1633
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: Alabama or someone, and you got a future first rounder

1634
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: at quarterback, and you've got a couple of stalwarts future

1635
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: first and second rounder at left tackle, you got studs

1636
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: in the backfield, you got three or four first round

1637
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 1: potential guys at wide out, and your defense is littered

1638
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 1: with guys. You've got seven guys are going to be

1639
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: top four round draft picks. Do you know what still

1640
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: I just said? I just said you got three or

1641
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: four players on offense and you got two or three

1642
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: on defense that are not pro caliber players. You know

1643
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 1: what happens if you face an NFL team and you

1644
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,879
Speaker 1: got a right guard that does not have pro potential?

1645
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: Do you know what an NFL defensive front would do

1646
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: to a center that doesn't have pro ability? I don't

1647
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: think it would be very embarrassing. Let me just tell

1648
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: you that it would be embarrassing. They would reduce the

1649
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: game to a single page playbook. It would look like

1650
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: child abuse. That's what it would look like. And I

1651
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: know a lot of you guys think because a team

1652
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: runs up the score every week and their margins are

1653
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: so wide, and they got so many guys in mel

1654
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Kiper's Mott draft, and look at all of these player

1655
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: ratings spiking on the video game that was you know, yesteryear,

1656
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: You think, could it be? Could it be? No? No,

1657
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: let me save you some time in sixteen teams even then, No, no, no, no.

1658
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: Riley on Twitter, you've been talking about evaluating programs to

1659
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: the top tier, and how to do that elevating that's

1660
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: what he meant. You meant elevating Tennessee, Michigan, Penn State

1661
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: to the top tier. But if more programs become top tier,

1662
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't some have to come down? I guess my question

1663
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: is how many top tier programs can there be? I

1664
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: would say somewhere between two and five normally is what

1665
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: you have Riley in the game. So you're right, yeah,

1666
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: by default, it is a zero sum game. There are

1667
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 1: only so many games out there to win. There are

1668
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: only so many recruits out there to be had, So

1669
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: you can't have fifteen elite programs obviously. Usually what you're

1670
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: going to see is two to five. But I can't

1671
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: tell you how many that is per conference because sometimes

1672
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: they tend to form in clusters. Because what happens is

1673
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: you get one elite team and they start collectively raising

1674
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: the standards and performance of everyone around them. And that's

1675
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: the Alabama LSU effect for example. Now, what we're waiting

1676
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: on is a similar thing to happen in the ACC.

1677
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 1: So far. It's Clemson and it's it's like Clemson and Sons.

1678
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: It's basically what the ACC has been for a little while.

1679
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Mister JBL on Twitter, what are your thoughts on expanding

1680
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: the SEC conference schedule to nine games? Keep the divisional

1681
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 1: round robin and cross division rivalries, but have two rotating

1682
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: cross division games instead of just one eight years between

1683
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Auburn Florida meeting was a drag. I'm all for it, JBL,

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Speaker 1: but it is a lost cause right now. Among at

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Speaker 1: least thirteen other SEC head coaches, Nick Saban's been the

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Speaker 1: only one vocally supporting this, at least at last check,

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Speaker 1: so I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Tie on Twitter, which new coach in the Southeastern Conference

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Speaker 1: this season has the most approved? Love your show, Keep grinding?

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Speaker 1: Mike Leach is the answer here. Mike Leach is a

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Speaker 1: guy who has developed a reputation for doing things a

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Speaker 1: certain way offensively, and the simple question I have is

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Speaker 1: does it translate when he has to face elite defensive

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Speaker 1: backplay future Sunday talent on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: specifically defensive backs, corners, nickels, safeties. He's going to face athletes.

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Speaker 1: They are the likes of which he did not face

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Speaker 1: a majority of the time in Lubbock, Texas, Pullman, Washington,

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Speaker 1: So going to have to be a lot of adapting

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Speaker 1: that takes place on the part of Mike Leach. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how long we just went. I'll see when

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Speaker 1: we're done, but been a lot of fun. Guys. Again,

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Speaker 1: there are a number of ways to reach me. You

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Speaker 1: can hit me in the email inbox Josh pat seven

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Speaker 1: zero six at gmail dot com. You can hit me

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Speaker 1: in the Twitter, DMS follow me. I would ask you

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Speaker 1: to do as you on Twitter. Had a lot of

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Speaker 1: followers on Twitter this week and really want to grow

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Speaker 1: that number because I want to grow all of our

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Speaker 1: numbers before the season. We're going to blow it out

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Speaker 1: during the season. You guys will love what we're going

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Speaker 1: to have for you during the season. So until then,

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Speaker 1: the best way, the most preferred way for you to

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Speaker 1: get your questions to us, is going in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: However you're listening to us right now, give us one

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Speaker 1: of those five star reviews and then write a review

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Speaker 1: and put a question in that review. I answered every

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Speaker 1: one of them we had from this past week on

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Speaker 1: this show. I'll answer every one of them we get

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Speaker 1: this week on next week's show. So until then, really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you listening. Have a great rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: Remember Late Kick Live airs Thursday nights and Sunday nights

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Speaker 1: that is at eight eastern seventh Central. If you miss

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Speaker 1: a lot going on right now, and the plate's only

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Speaker 1: going to get more and more full as college football

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Speaker 1: season approaches. Until next time, this has been the Late

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