WEBVTT - 2025 Ryder Cup Check-In 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.480 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:05.880 And when I find my. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.720 Ball in a brid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.560 egg Friday Frida Egg brid. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:13.360 Egg, Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:14.080 up course. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.320 Welcome back to the Friday Golf Podcast. I am Andy Johnson, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.120 your host, and today I am excited to chat a 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.280 little bit about the Ryder Cup. We haven't talked about 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.639 the Ryder Cup on this podcast. Uh, obviously it's one 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.200 of the huge subplots to the rest of the year 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.840 in golf. We have one major left, we have the 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.800 Open Championship. Our podcast will be out on as it 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.880 traditionally is, before the Open, but I thought that this 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.600 was a great time to chat about the Ryder Cup. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.720 A quick note just you know, for you guys, if 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.800 you're looking for a golf course podcast, a golf course 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.800 specific podcast, I thought Garrett and Matt did an awesome 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.720 job on the Designing Golf Podcast breaking down Royal Port Rush, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.880 so I would go check that out if you're looking 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.959 for a little bit golf course content before the Major. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.960 As well as our video on YouTube Royal Port Rush 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:38.120 preview video which we did so. I am joined today 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.839 by Joseph Lamania from Friday Golf as well as Sean 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.880 Martin from the PGA Tour. One of my favorite people 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.000 in the world of golf to talk golf with is Sean. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:53.080 Sean is the senior manager Content Development of the PGA Tour. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.920 There's a comma in there. They use commas and titles. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.320 Sean is so big. Thanks to Sean for joining. Before 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:04.640 we get to Joseph and Sean, this podcast is presented 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:08.680 by our friends at Mercedes Benz. 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Want to give one one quick open nugget 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.200 that you're excited for before we get into the Ryder 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:51.040 Cup discussion. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:52.960 Does this coount as one of our things? Is a 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:53.440 pre thing? 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.960 Now, this is a pre thing, pre thing, This is 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.520 an unplanned pre thing just off the top of your head, 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.520 Ryder Cup thing, open championship thing that you're. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.080 You're Open championship. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:11.640 I think, oh, open Championship. I met We're the week before. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.160 We're still you know, this is kind of multi service pod. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.240 Now I think big thing for me. I think in 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.040 light of this pod, doing some research, it's going to 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.480 be a big factor in team selection, just points wise. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.640 But then also I think Rory obviously a big thing 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.360 looking forward to. I think been kinding up and down 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.800 a couple months after the Masters win. But I'm sure 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.800 Port Rush and beth Page or two things that are 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.760 circled on his calendar, and so it'll be interesting to 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:40.160 see how Rory shows up for port Rush. I was 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.560 talking to Paul Hodwanick on our staff before he departed 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.480 for overseas, and I love that Rory and Shane last 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.400 time we were port Rush really showed the blessing and 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.200 the curse of a hometown major. There's like the crowd 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.200 support that you get that third round. I'll never forget it. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.279 At port Rush when Shane Lowry shot I think sixty 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.159 three to take like a four or six shot lead, 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.279 they were were acting like he'd won the tournament. It 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.440 was an incredible scene. They're practically carry him on his shoulders. 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.320 But then obviously he saw it to with Rory, just 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.039 the pressure and what happened to him there without you know, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.040 getting his first t shot will be so I think 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.279 it might have our conversation. It's a huge for team selection. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.080 And then too, I think just seeing you know what 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.520 Rory we see rock up to the first team this year. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:23.680 I totally I think like the home game thing is 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.599 like it can be like a It's totally like a 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.080 blessing or a curse. Like you if you get off 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.039 to a good start, I feel like it's like the 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.960 greatest thing ever. But there's also this element of like 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.640 golf courses that you know really well, you also know 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.440 like all the things that can go wrong on them, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.920 like and sometimes if you go watch like somebody that's 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.800 played a golf course their entire life, I'll never forget. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.760 I played a Usam qualifier at a golf course I'd 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:53.880 played hundreds of times years ago, and I played one 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.920 of the holes one way my whole life. And we're 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.680 playing this Usam qualifier and literally I'm seeing everybody hit 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.680 driver on this hole. And it was a hole that like, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.400 because I had played it so many times as a kid, 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.400 I just always thought the play was like just you know, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.280 I hit it to the one hundred and fifty yard marker. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.760 Play in that way. I watch all these and it's 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.000 like it's funny every time. I've never forgotten that because 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.240 then I just started hitting driver in the hole got 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.560 so much easier. And it's because like you just have 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.839 this like built up memory of playing a golf course 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.560 and you have the way that you play golf course 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.920 your whole life. So anyways, I and also then you 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.280 also know all the bad spots. So anyways, that's a 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:40.320 quick tangent, Joseph, what about you, Andy? 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.200 That is just classic back in the day, Andy playing 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.880 the angles laying back. I mean, that is the most 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:51.480 Andy Johnson anecdote that I think you could give. Learning 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.720 that hitting driver makes holes easier is the perfect way 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:55.880 to start this podcast. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.000 You know what, I think that you are under rae 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:04.960 the way this hole is set up. And also this 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.080 was way before this is way before any of the 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.520 data revelations. This was probably before Twitter existed. It was 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.600 definitely before Instagram existed when this happened. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.239 Fair enough, all right, the thing you probably. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:27.160 Were You were probably like five years old when this happened, Joseph. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.880 Who knows? Who can say the main thing I'm looking 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.840 for at the Open Championship, I think a really interesting 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.960 storyline is how does Scotty putt? And we've seen the 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.280 return this year. He's being branded as a much better 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.400 putter and he has been a much better putter. Is 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.320 that like, has he truly become a good putter? Or 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:50.360 no offense sean or the PGA Tour setups like consistent, 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.440 he's kind of learned how to put on those. And 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.680 when he goes overseas to grainier, slower greens where you 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.520 have to strike your putts better, can Scotty Hank can 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.960 he gain a shot a day on the greens or 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.400 something like that or does he finish tied for seventh 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.080 and we look at it as another like ball striking 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.120 exhibition where the putter held him back. I think that's 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.640 a huge storyline going into Port Rush. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:14.600 I do need to bring something up. I texted Andy 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:18.840 about this. I think Scotty's open record is underrated. I 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.720 think he finished twenty first in Saint Andrews in twenty 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.680 twenty two. That was the year that he was in 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.600 contention through two or three rounds that had a bad 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:30.840 final round and the reason was revealed later. I think 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.920 it's the tour championship. Someone asked him about it and 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.520 he had what amounted to basically an ingrown hair on 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:44.040 his butt, A painful, painful injury, an unlikely one, but 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:45.439 it made it hard to even pick his ball out 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.800 of the hole. And bendever said to grind Through that 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.079 I don't want to go into too much detail, but 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:51.880 it's on his transcript from the twenty twenty two Tour 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:56.280 Championship and then Royal truon last year. John Wood, who 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.760 was on the ground following it, called one of the 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.240 best ball striking grounds he's ever seen. During that third round, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.280 when the conditions were awful, wind is blowing across the 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.040 golf course, I said, Scotty worked in both waves in 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.880 the wind to flight his ball and curve it into 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.800 the wind. And then you remember he almost hold that 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.120 three wood on seventeen. I think Scotty was a victim 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.120 of the draw there at the Open. So I think 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.880 the story behind Scotty's Open record I think I think 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.000 that's better than what it looks like on Wikipedia. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:28.920 Listen. I think he should be the best Open player. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.800 What works well when the conditions get went like ball 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:38.160 striking is like the premiere. You know it's hard because 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.720 you talk about like Augustin National you say the same thing, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.040 like right, but you know, there's a reason that the 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:49.199 best players play the best in majors right consistently. And 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.600 for the open, where you can get those like really 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:58.480 tough crosswinds and those really difficult conditions, that is an 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.280 opportunity for or someone who hits the ball like Scottie 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:08.240 to really separate themselves from the field. That being said, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.120 I think the slow greens where you actually have to 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:16.720 hit a putt is something to watch. Per Joseph's thought 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.240 is like these greens are much slower, so what you 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:24.120 see is like longer strokes on six foot putts. And 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.840 you know, I think like what gets miss construed as 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:34.079 skill putting is like the reality of like pro golf 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.920 in America is that putting's really about just like hitting 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.240 a line, and the greens are so fast that if 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.920 you hit the line, it's going to go in. When 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.640 you have slower greens, you have a wider range of stroke. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.880 So you know, if you use this for a cross sport, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:58.040 analogy is like you know, PGA Tour golf putting wise 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.400 is like a quarterback who just has to make short throws, right, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.800 It's like that's the skill when the greens get slower, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.120 you you have to make the short throws still, you 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.480 have to have the short stroke putting, but like you 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.880 also have a wider your stroke has to be good 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.160 at at a longer level too, because you have long 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.720 putts that are slow that you have to hit hard, 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.640 So your dynamic range of putting stroke is much greater. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.800 And that would be my case for links golf and 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:36.400 slow greens illuminate more skilled putting. Just just to follow 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:40.120 the data would say something different, I know, just to 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:40.600 follo up. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.440 On I don't know the data would say something different, Andy, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.520 but just to fallo up on Sean's point, Like Scotty 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.760 does have a good Open Championship record, I believe we 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.280 have three years of Open Championship strokes gain data. He's 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.719 lost strokes putting in all of those, and he's lost 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.920 strokes putting a lot of places over the last three years. 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.839 But it's not like that his Open Championship record defy 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.320 as some of the narrative around him potentially struggling with 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.240 the potter on these types of greens, like it has 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.800 been something that if he had put well at Truon, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.400 he absolutely could have won that golf turn he probably 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:11.319 would have won Night Golf turn. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.120 The interesting thing with slow greens, you know, so when 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.520 Scotty puts poorly, it looks like he desails, and you 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.719 would think slow greens would help him because you can, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.920 in theory, just hit it a little harder without the 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.000 worry of that kind of running out right, Like I 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.480 think a lot of us, probably, you know, we weren't 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.760 as let's say, finally tuned as a PGA Tour player, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.000 but you'd take a little shorter stroke and accelerate a 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.600 little bit more. But now I think guys are so 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.360 dialed with kind of the tempo and pace of their 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.000 putting stroke that they, just, like Andy's saying, take a 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.160 longer stroke to hit at that extra distance on the 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.360 slower green versus just you know, putting a little more 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.920 pop into it. I'll at brand Snedeker, but it's interesting. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.760 I think Scotty, when he puts poorly and misses those 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.640 short ones, it looks like he's de selling on them. 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.520 I almost feel like maybe on the slower greens, if 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.520 you just pull a more pop into stroke to make 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.960 up for the you know, less get on the greens, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.480 might be a fix. I don't know, I'm not a 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.080 putting instruction This could be horrible advice. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.160 Maybe we should get us putting instructor on real quick, 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.680 see if one's available, and see if they can join. 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.480 All right, let's get to the topic of the of 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.199 the podcast, the Ryder Cup. Scottie Scheffler is on the 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.480 American team. What we did for this podcast is we 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.880 each prepared three I'll just call them storylines that we 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.120 are paying attention to for the rest of the year. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.440 For the Ryder Cup. It could be European team, it 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:41.400 could be US team Sean. Since you are the you 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.240 come in from a different organization, we'll give you the 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.880 right to go first. Here. Joseph, you can go second. 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.800 I'll back clean third. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.160 Here sounds good. You know, I wish you always had 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.400 Kyle Porter on here. I love Kyle, but this is 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.880 just somewhere we don't agree. You know, Kyle loves the 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.120 story of the European camaraderie and the motivational films and 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.360 the chemistry and how it all works together. And to me, 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.760 I think the Ryder Cup in this era is a 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.920 logistics contest. And I think that honestly, jet lag might 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.240 be United States' biggest enemy and they don't have that 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.320 this year obviously, So I think of all the advantages 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.400 of being a home golf course course set up being one, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.280 I think the United States has severely mismanaged its travel 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.720 when it's had long road trips recently, going back to 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.640 twenty eighteen, part of that was scheduled unavoidable. The Ryder 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.480 Cup in France was the week after the Tour Championship, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.160 so literally those guys had to hop on a red 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.240 eye Sunday night after Eastlake can get into Paris Monday morning. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.720 You look at the twenty nineteen President's Cup, which, if 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.840 you remember, the US was down three points going to singles. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.080 They played the Hero World Challenge the week before. Obviously 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.840 Tiger was the playing captain. I'm sure that had a 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.560 lot to do with it. But again they arrived in 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.600 Australia the Monday of after a long flight, whereas a 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.000 lot of the international team played the Australian Open the 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.800 week before. And then last year you have a month 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.720 between the Tour Championship and the Ryder Cup, and yet 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.440 again the US team takes the Sunday night red Eye 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.360 the week before or the Sunday before and arrives Monday 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.920 morning and you're behind the eight ball. You're getting off 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.560 that red eye flight, You're just trying to stay awake 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.480 to go to bed at a normal time. You're probably 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.960 sleep walking through practice. Now you do have that extra 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:22.960 day because the Ryder Cup starts Friday, but I think 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.320 in hindsight, when you look even at player quotes, and 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.360 I think even Zach Johnson's quotes later in the year, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:29.760 they realized that was a big mistake. The team also 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.520 got sick that week. You can't control that. But if 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.160 you look at it for last year's President's Cup, it 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.240 was in Montreal, so we're not talking big travel, but 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.080 that team arrived the Saturday before, and they said a 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.160 big reason was they learned what a big mistake it 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.680 was arriving that late to a road Ryder Cup. And 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.520 so I think luckily we've learned. I would be surprised 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.400 if the US team doesn't arrive at the latest Sunday 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.320 before a to beth Page. You do have that month 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:01.280 between again the Tour Championship and the the Ryder Cup, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.560 which I think doesn't work to the US advantage because 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.160 the only thing in between is the event in Napa, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.520 Whereas one thing in Europe's favor is they. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.000 Have a year you have to play that nap event they. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.600 Have to or you either you go to beth Page 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.280 and you have a three to four day team bonding 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:21.840 practice event like the European team did last year, because 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.000 I think you wouldn't take a month off before major. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.400 I don't think you should take a month off for 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.800 the Ryder Cup. And then Europe they're going to have 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.360 a similar thing what we saw in twenty twenty three, 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:31.800 where they have a lot of good events on their 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.120 schedule to play and get momentum and bond you've got. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:36.920 You know, you have the Tour Championship, which a lot 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.800 of their guys will play, but for the guys that 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.760 don't make it, the British Masters is the same week. 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.280 Then you have the OMEGA European Masters, and after that 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.360 you have the Irish Open, which this year it's at 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.600 the k Club which is a very American style venue, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.600 whereas last year is at Royal County Down. I don't 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.080 think that's a coincidence. And then twoaks for the Yder Cup, 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.520 you have the BMWPGA, the European Tour, the DP World 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.440 Tour's biggest event, and so I think the US gets 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.640 to avoid big travel and I think learned from that, 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.760 but the schedule, they still need to plan a way 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.520 to hit the round running and be successful for Beth Page, 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.159 which I think we saw a Royal Montreal with them 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.400 arriving early, which was a conscious decision based on Rome. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.600 But I think they just need to make sure that 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.280 the week's leading in the Ryder Cup are used the 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.000 best possible way that they can, which includes rest of recovery, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.600 but also includes practice and preparation. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.160 Do you think that's something for not necessarily Brian Roll 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.400 app not to derail it, like a full month off 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.560 between the Tour Championship and when the Ryder Cup is 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.439 historically played, Like you could pretty easily sell me that 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.760 pushing back the Tour Championship a little bit kind of 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.639 makes a little some sense from both a weather standpoint 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.720 and there being less of a layoff between, Like playing 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.320 NAPA is not the best preparation for playing the Ryder Cup. 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.120 I don't know. I'd be surprised if I guess eight 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.680 years from now there's still that that significant of a gap, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.560 or that there's not a better event placed between them. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.399 I don't know, what do you instead of playing NAPA. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.920 I think a four day trip to beth Page Is 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:08.560 is the solution sufficient. I think it's the better option 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.719 of the two. Yeah, but a month off is too long. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.520 I don't know exactly what goes in with this coordination. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.280 Obviously we saw in COVID all the organizations kind of 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.040 coordinating schedules have done before. But a month off is 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.200 a long time. And really the DP World Tour has 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.560 some big events between the Tour Championship and the Ryder 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.000 Cup that really give an opportunity to kind of gain 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.720 some momentum like we saw in twenty twenty three. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.240 I it would be cool if they did like some 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.879 sort of event at beth Page before and had like 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.080 I mean, that would be like you know, you talk 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:44.359 about like ways to make cool stuff and make the 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:49.480 tour more like you know, approachable and different things you 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.520 could do a whole like if they actually did matches 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:57.960 that they created content around while they did these practice sessions, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.399 you know, and treated it like you know you always 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.520 see like the footage of like the Dream Team scrimmages, right, 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.960 Like these things would be really neat content ideas as well, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.160 you know, I wish Paul McGinley was here to push 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.480 back on the On the camaraderie side of things, I 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:18.800 don't think. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.920 I don't think it hurts, but I think that I 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.000 think you have two pretty evenly matched teams, and I 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.399 think that the advantages are in course setup and logistics, 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:28.879 and I think those are really the difference in the 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.800 Ryder Cup. I think I always say to Kyle, if 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.960 the camaraderie thing was so big, you know why didn't 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.760 work in twenty twenty one or twenty sixteen. Or I'll 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.240 buy into the huge I'm not saying it doesn't help. 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.760 The guys talk a lot about the logistics. You know, 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.000 being so well ronic gives them confidence because they don't 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.920 have to think about anything. They know where they need 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.840 to be, when they need to be there, who they're 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.920 playing with, how to prepare. It eliminates a lot of questions. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.199 But I just I'll believe it has a humongous impact 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.240 when it leads to a winning a road Rider Cup. 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.800 And actually going back to the events thing, I like 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.520 what the USCA has done with the Walker Cup in 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.960 recent years, where like in twenty seventeen when the matches 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.639 at LACC, the USAM was like two weeks earlier at Riviera, 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.720 so both teams could play. This year the Walk Cups 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:14.879 at Cyper's Point in the Usam's at Olympic Club, so 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.320 both teams can play. And so I think when you 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.240 doing that where you allow both teams to play in 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:22.960 a tournament two weeks ahead of time, they're both kind 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.119 of preparing the same. You get people they get a 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.280 chance to play competitively two weeks ahead of time, and 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:29.840 then they get to go see the venue in plenty 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.600 of time. Like I kind of like that idea and 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:33.760 that execution. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.920 Something I had which I'll just butt in here. I'm 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.720 screwing up the order, but it's my podcast, so I 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.479 can do that. I thought a nice question I have, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.920 what's the best setup of Beth Page for the Americans? 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:53.760 You know you brought up setup. Is it no rough 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.399 really like short rough and you know is in softer 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.520 or is it thick rough and like kind of more 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.080 the PGA Championship style set up that we saw a 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.280 few years ago. Or do they do what they did 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.240 with Hazel team where they really like mow the rough down. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.520 I think that's a fascinating question because in a way, 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.840 the European team looks a lot more like what those 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:24.000 prior US teams like before the turnover and that European 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:28.159 Ryder Cup roster where they were trotting out Ian Polter 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.720 Lee Westwood. You know, these these shorter, more precise players 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:38.359 from a different era. Now that European team is filled 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.120