1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast PODCA. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: All right, here we. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Go spreading the court ten seconds ormating, it's gonna just 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: go throw me up to. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: The basket, under the basket. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: It's the truit for the wind God. A miracle. I 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: just chuck the water. Hit that one from the parking lot. 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Big Bets 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: on Campus Podcast presented by Bett MGM. This is the 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: college basketball Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part five. I'm stucky 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: enjoining me today to cover four conference tournaments. My guy 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: kym cun Kyle, what's going on? Brother? 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: Not much? Just watched the kittiesa Liberty final. Tough to 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: be decided on a foul call, but a great game 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: either way. A lot of good basketball today. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Insane that Kenna saw is dancing. They were one in 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: twenty eight in what twenty nineteen, twenty twenty like three 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: years ago. Crazy job by ab door meaheen building that program. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: A lot of guys who have been there for a while. 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: I do feel for Darius McGee, oh for eleven from 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: three gave me similar vibes to I was in Vegas 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: for Wafford, Kentucky when Fletcher McGee went oh of twelve 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: in the last game of his career. It was I'm 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: sure McGee will probably play in a postseason tournaments, that 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: might not be his last game, but they gave me 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: the same same vibes, and I felt bad for him 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: because he's a hell of a player and hell of 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: a shooter. Probably the wors shooting game of his career 29 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: at the wrong time. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he averaged like forty five points per game against 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: Kennesaw the previous two games, so it's it's a bit 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: of a shocker. Yeah, something about McGee's in March. Unfortunate 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: feel for him as well. But abdur raheem Man, what 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: a program build. Just so impressed by what he's done there. 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they that was an enormous call because McGee 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna miss forever. And although momentum was that they 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: don't score that, I think it's Liberties game in overtime. 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: So Kennsall is dancing. We have some weird teams in 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: the dance. Simo is dancing fairly. Dickinson, it's insane that 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: they're dancing stupid role Mary mac is weally good. And 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: then I mean so we also get a conference tournament 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: that means nothing. I mean, obviously it means something that 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: the kids, but like, come on, can we get it's 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: maybe the first year. I mean, I think it's just 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: stupid regardless, but come on, and then Drake, who was 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: just dominant the way that they did it on national TV, 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: they might become everyone's darling. And I think they're a 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: great darling to take to the dance. Would you agree? 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, Their super experienced, they don't really make mistakes. 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: They have a great guard play, they have a great 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: coach in my opinion, debrees, and they play great defense. 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of good things going for him. 53 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: Missouri Valley also tends to be a Cinderella story in 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: March Madness quite often. 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake's healthy now that they've dealt with a lot 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: of injuries in the past. There's only seven guys in 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: all of college basketball that are over that are twenty 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: five or older. Drake has three. Roman penn Is forty 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: years old. He started for Sienna in twenty seventeen twenty 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: seventeen season, which is just insane. But yeah, they're dangerous. 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: I really don't want, like some of my futures teams 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: on the four or five line to face them, and 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: I would love to bet them against a couple others. 64 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 2: Give me them against like Virginia or Iowa State. So yeah, 65 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: Drake will be a dangerous team. Come throw them up. 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: But we have we have four other leagues to talk 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: about today. We're going to talk about the Big West, 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: the Big East, the Mountain West, and the whack so 69 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: little West coast flavor. Today with the Big East, let's start. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: Where do you want to start? What are you most 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: passionate about out of these four? 72 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: Oh man, most passionate, Let's start Big West. I love that, sure, 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: Big West Tuesday to Saturday. And you got three tournaments 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: out west that are all that. 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: Are in Vegas and then the Big East Tournament, which 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: is in the world's most famous arena. But let's start 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: Big West Tuesday to Saturday in Henderson, Nevada. Ten of 78 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: the eleven teams will participate in this tournament. Because you 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: see San Diego a lot of games. They've had some 80 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: pretty infamous gambling moments this year and meltdowns and their 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: second half's have been pretty interesting. But they're not eligible 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: for this tournament, which is it's just ridiculous, like some 83 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: some of these teams are we're going to talk about 84 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: what the I think we have a in the whack 85 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: is there? 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, they have the weird thing about New Mexico State, right, 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: they forget their season. 88 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some other there's a couple other conferences where 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: teams that are playing and it aren't eligible for the tournament, 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: but they can win, like Mary Mack. But so who knows. 91 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: You're not even letting you see San Diego play in 92 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: the conference Tournament's ridiculous. 93 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, their games don't even count for the standings. I 94 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: think West that's a weird, weird rule. They have only 95 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: conference does that. 96 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the one seed is you see Irvine, they 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: are the favorites to win at their plus one sixty ish. 98 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: You see Santa Barbara is the two seed their plus 99 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: three twenty five. Then you see Riverside is the three seed. 100 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: They're nine to one. Fortunes actually the four seed in 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: four to one. Then Hawaii is the five seeds six 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: to one. Then you're you see Davis the six seed 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: ten to one, Beach with seven seed sixteen to one. 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: And then you have your the dregs Polly Northridge and Bakersfield, 105 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: or you know, one hundred to one plus. It's worth 106 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: noting that. And I think UC Irvin got the number 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: one seed because they went two and oher against Riverside 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: and Santa Barbara went oh and two against Riverside. And 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: in the bottom half of the bracket, that's who Santa 110 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Barbara would face in the semis if they get by 111 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: the winner of Beach and Polly and Riverside gets by. 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: U see Davis, So talk to me about just high 113 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: level what you see in the Big West. Are there 114 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: is there any value or at the top or any 115 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: long shots worth exploring? 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, first off, I would say it's pretty wide open 117 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: because these teams one through seven, there's not a lot 118 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 3: of gap between them between like one hundred and one 119 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: forty seven on Kimpum. You're not going to see a 120 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: spread higher than three points ish among these teams. So 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: kind of tough to pick a winner in terms of 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: or emphatically pick a winner, let's say, which is why 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: I kind of lean towards a team not named Irvine, 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: a team with a little bit longer odds. I lean 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: towards Barbara here. I think Santa Barbara's the most talented 126 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: team in the conference. Have the best guard in aj 127 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: Mitchell arguably the best front court as well. Now they 128 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: do have to play riverside in round two, like you said, 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: who swept them, but they were close games, and again 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: I tend to ride talent in the tournament. I'm leaning 131 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: their way right now. Plus three twenty five. It sticks 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: out to me as one of the better values in 133 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: this conference. 134 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: Now on the So if you're looking at the top 135 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: half and you're wanting to fade uc Irvine, because let 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: me say, if I run this real quick, because I 137 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: don't agree you Irvine at plus one sixty, I mean 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: I have them at like thirty percent, So there is 139 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: zero value in UC Irvine. I'm gonna come on here 140 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: and make a case for my beloved Hawaii Warriors. So 141 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: they would, you know, the first I think you could 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: find if you can find like an eight to one 143 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: out there. They did get blown out in the finale 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: against Santa Barbara, but before then, if you look at 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: a lot of their losses, I mean they lost a 146 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: full ten in overtime earlier than the season, they lost 147 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: to Yale and in overtime they lost to Commerce by two. 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: They lost to Irvine. Let's see, they lost to they 149 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: lost at Irvine, beat Irvine at home, they lost a 150 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: riverside by two. They I mean they lost to Santa 151 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: Barbara by one. I mean six of their ten losses 152 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: were by two or less or in overtime. And you know, 153 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: they did get the Silva back last game. And this 154 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: kid more Seck, the seven foot one freshman has really 155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: come on down the stretch. Had a rough game. I 156 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: think they were really just walking into a buzz solid 157 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: UC Santa Barbara going for, you know, a share of 158 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: the regular season title. But yeah, I don't mind the 159 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: matchup of Hawaii against Irvine if they get by Fullerton, 160 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: which is certainly no given that's close to a coin 161 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: flip game. But I like the upside of Hawaii. Any 162 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: thoughts there on who else you could attack on the 163 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: top half with Hawaii, it is worth noting, you know, 164 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 2: I know set has been playing lately at the Silva's back, 165 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: but Hawaii is no bench, which could be a factor. 166 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: What do you see in the top half other than Irvine. 167 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: I kind of like Fullerton and Hawaii to beat Irvine. 168 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: So either team that comes out of that matchup, So 169 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: Fullton doesn't get a lot of press, but they won 170 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: this tourney last year, and they've beaten every single top 171 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: team in the league, so that they've proven they can 172 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: beat these teams. They compete and then, in Hawaii's case, 173 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: their defense, their toughness is what gives them a high ceiling. 174 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: I think in a tournament setting they can drag any 175 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: team into the mud. You know, I do worry eventually 176 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: when they get to the championship play. Santa Barbara seems 177 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: to be the one team that can kind of out 178 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: talent them. We'll say, I think it's really hard for 179 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: Hawaii to be top talent. But a team like Fullton Irvine, 180 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: I think Hawaii can hang in there, drag them in 181 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: the mud and win by their defense. So again, Fulton 182 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: or Hawaii, I kind of like their chances over Irvine. 183 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the but if you look at Santa Barbara, they 184 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: and you look at their their metrics, they live in 185 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: the mid range and they thrive in the mid range, 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: and that's what Hawaii. That's where Hawaii forces you to go, right. 187 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: They take away the three I think they are. They 188 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: might have the lowest number one's pertive. Yeah, number one. 189 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: They don't give up any three. They have a lot 190 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: of length, They can contest shots, and you know they're 191 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: they can defend at the rim. But if you can 192 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: ride in that mid range game, which is what Santa 193 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: Barbara can do with their guard, that's why they've given 194 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: Hawaii a bunch of trouble. So I think it actually 195 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: works in Hawaii's favor that Barber's on the other side, 196 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: and you would hope that, you know, I mean, I 197 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: think you can find an eight to one and then 198 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: you can always hope that Riverside knocks off Barbara. Again, 199 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: Hawaii did beat Riverside by four on the road and 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: they lost by two at home. I think that's a 201 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: little better matchup for them. So yeah, I think depending 202 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: on who you like in that Hawaii Fullerton game, and 203 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: obviously shop around, I think that let's see, because who 204 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: would I prefer from a matchup perspective, Hawaii or Fullerton 205 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: against Irvine, And I think they both are going to 206 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: be They're going to be price similarly, right, these two 207 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: teams are in the same stratosphere. 208 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, same spread either way most likely for both those teams. Yeah. 209 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Fullerton who's more reliant, who can shoot the three? 210 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: I mean like Fullerton three a little better, which is 211 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: which is good because Irvine again, what are they the 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: number one two point defense? Again as always? So yeah, 213 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: I think it would depend on price and then who 214 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: you like in that matchup. I'm kind of biased to Hawai. 215 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: They have a soft spot in my heart, so I'm 216 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: gonna go with the Bows as the long shot. You're 217 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: calling Santa Barbara what plus plus three fifty ish? 218 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? Around there, and hey, if you want a flyer. 219 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 3: We haven't even talked about Riverside. I think they're nine 220 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: to one in some places. I mean they're going to 221 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: be a pick with UC Davis, who they swept. They 222 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: swept Santa Barbara, and then you make the championship. They 223 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: did get swept by Fullerton in Irvine, so not great 224 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: matchups there, but with the price, you might consider Riverside 225 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: as well. Like I said, these top seven teams are 226 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,479 Speaker 3: pretty much indistinguishable. 227 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you always have a guy, you have a 228 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: guy like Zion pulling in your back pocket. And he 229 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: didn't play. He didn't play for what two weeks early 230 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: in January, which shocking. Yeah, they like one almost every 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: game except Fullerton, but he's fully back now. Yeah, I agree. 232 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that there's much of a difference between 233 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: all these teams, which makes Irvine just throw them out 234 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: the window. They could obviously win this tournament, but at 235 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: their current price, there is absolutely no value. And because 236 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: they're so short, I think it's creating some value on 237 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: some of the other teams. And it just comes down 238 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: to a personal preference of who you like and for 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: what reason. Yeah, absolutely, all right, good stuff on the 240 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: Big West. Let's go out east and talk the Big 241 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: East Tournament, which will be March eighth through the eleventh, 242 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: obviously in Madison Square Garden. The interesting part about this 243 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: tournament is Villanova has already advanced on Wikipedia. So if 244 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 2: you go to Wikipedia and you pull up the bracket, 245 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: the Big East bracket, you will see Villanova has already 246 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: advanced past Georgetown and we'll face Crayton on Thursday. But anyway, 247 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: the as far as the odds are concerned, Yukon is 248 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: the favorite at plus two eighty. Marquette who's the one 249 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: seed plus two ninety. Obviously, shop around. These can differ 250 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: per book the Creighton plus three Fortyhavior plus four thirty, 251 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: Villanova plus eight hundred, Providence plus fifteen hundred, Paul plus 252 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: thirty to one the home Johnny's fifty five to one. 253 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: Then you're down in the dregs of Georgetown, De Paul 254 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: and Butler. The top six seeds get a buy here. 255 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: That's Marquette, Xavier, Creighton, Villanova, Yukon, and Providence. Saint John's 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: will take on Butler in the first round. Scene Hall 257 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: will take on to Paul, and Villanova will take on Georgetown. 258 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: The first thing I'll mention here is, look, VILLAINO. You 259 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: might hear Villain Nova get a lot of love with 260 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: the way that they're playing. And you know, Justin Moore 261 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: has returned, and he's really important, his facilitator on that offense. 262 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: He's a really good on ball defender. But eight to one, 263 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: I mean, they got to win four games in four days. 264 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: Now. 265 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 2: They play really slow, they have a decent bench, like 266 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: they're not like trying to run up and down the court. 267 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: But they got to this. So they'll take on Georgetown first. 268 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: You figure minus twelve eleven twelve if you just take 269 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: that game, and then presumably they got to play Creighton, 270 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: then Xavier, then Yukon. If you assume that they were 271 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: a pick in all three of those games at minus eleven, 272 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: which they're not gonna be a pick like they were 273 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: just plus two against yukon it at all. If they 274 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: were just a pick toss up in all three of 275 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: those games, and then minus eleven twelve against Ursum, a 276 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: money line roller would be ten to one. Like, So 277 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: do not take eight to one of Villanova. And if 278 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: you're not familiar with how money line rollover works, you 279 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: would just take a unit. And in the first game, 280 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: so you're unit was one hundred dollars, you've got a 281 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: hundred dolls. Risk one hundred dollars on Villanova moneyline against Georgetown, right, 282 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: it's gonna return pennies. But then you would take that 283 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: one hundred plus whatever you want and then put it 284 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: on money line the next game, et cetera, et cetera. 285 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: You only risk your original unit, and then by the 286 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: time you're done, you would you want to kind of 287 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: compare them. Now there's also uncertain you could have a 288 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: huge upset, you could have you know, Saint John's make 289 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: it to the final, but even so you'd still are 290 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: probably going to get better than the eighth to one 291 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: that's happened. So that's the first thing that I'll say. 292 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: The second thing that I'll say is who do I 293 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: want to attack here from like fading if you look 294 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: over the past month and this kind of illustrates. Okay, 295 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: Villanova's looking they've been playing well. They just beat Craton, 296 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: But over the past month, which is three games into 297 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: Justin Moore coming back, he kind of struggled as rusty 298 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: over the past month. You on per Torvik, Yukon number 299 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: one team in the country. Yep, over the past thirty days, 300 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: Creighton sixteen, Xavier nineteen, Marquette thirty five. You know they'll 301 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: love is like forty eighth. So it's not like they've 302 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: been a top twenty team since said John's seventy nine, 303 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: Hall eighty five, Providence ninetieth, they've been the ninetieth best 304 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: team over the past month. But you know they're fifteen 305 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: to one. What makes them potentially interesting. I hate that 306 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: they go up against Yukon. They did split with Yukon 307 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: in the season. I don't think it's a great matchup. 308 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 2: But you know we've seen Coolly make runs here before. 309 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Do you get an inspired effort from Providence after getting 310 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: embarrassed on their home court by Seaton Hall to close 311 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: out the regular season, Because if they can beat Yukon. Right, 312 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: there's I like, Marquette could lose to Saint John's. We've 313 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: seen those games will be super high variances. We just 314 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: saw Saint John's had a shot to win at Marquette 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: this past weekend. So like, can Providence get by Yukon, 316 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: Because if so at fifteen to one, they know they're 317 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: only going to win three games, that might be interesting. 318 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: I actually do show value in Yukon because I think 319 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Marquette that you know, the same price as Yukon, is crazy. 320 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: So I actually show a tad which is hardly ever 321 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: happens with these teams at the top, But I show 322 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: a little bit of value on Yukon at its current price. 323 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: In the bottom half, you know, Xavier is getting healthier, 324 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: playing well, you have Creighton there, but Villanova plays them tough, 325 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: which makes me probably just toss them to the side, 326 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 2: and then there's no value in Villanova. That's kind of 327 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: how I say it from a broad perspective. Why don't 328 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: you break it down from what you say? 329 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, I think it's a tough lead 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: to pick. I think the top four of this league 331 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: is awesome. Yukon, Marquette, Xavier, Creighton, I think all four 332 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: teams can make runs in the tournament. I agree with 333 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: you on Nova, I'm not interested in this future from 334 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: a value perspective. From the perspective, I don't really think 335 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: they're that good. I think they're getting a lot of press, 336 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 3: and they're certainly better than they were in the non conference, 337 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: but they're not an elite team by any stretch. Providence 338 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: always time. If you like them, just money on rollover exactly, 339 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: Just do that instead. Providence is a tough team to pay. 340 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: They're a wild card. They have a lot of talent, 341 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: Bryce Hopkins, I mean top end talent, and they have 342 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: a great coach, and they're weird, and they really grind 343 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: games out and they're physical and can definitely win in 344 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: a tournament setting. But like you said, Yukon, that first 345 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: matchup is terrible for them. And this Yukon team they 346 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: look like they did in Portland when they were dominating 347 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 3: teams at the beginning of the season. I think they 348 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 3: could be the best team in the country still, and 349 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: that's scary. They have to get past Marquette, who can 350 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: definitely throw some stuff at them, but I think they're 351 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: good enough to do it. Game two, they seem to 352 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: figure it out against Marquette. The one that's kind of 353 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: intriguing me is Xavier at five to one. That's assuming 354 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: Zach Fremantle plays. I think he is going to come 355 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: back for the Big East Tournament. They were borderline top 356 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: ten in the country when he was when he was 357 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: in the lineup, they have beaten Creighton, they've gotten past 358 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: them before. If he's back, they're the best shooting team 359 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: in the conference, and they're much better on defense with 360 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: him in the game. So that could be a little 361 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: bit of value Xavier. But again, it's tough to emphatically 362 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 3: say they're going to be Creyton. Who's another team just 363 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: like so, I guess I go yu kun if I 364 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: had to choose a team in here based on what 365 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: the prices are on the market. 366 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Xavier's really I mean the thing that 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 2: we talked I talked about this with Maddie and the 368 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: previous our previous episode. If you haven't listened to that, 369 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: make sure you checked that out. We were talking PAC 370 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: twelve and like Utah got healthier over the weekend. But 371 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: it's like one game, Xavier. It's even the Fremantle hasn't 372 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: come back yet it is absence to guard. Their guards 373 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: are playing really really well, and maybe New York City 374 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: turns into a boomtown or that announcer say that the 375 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: other day. I love that line. But you know, Fremantle, 376 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: if he comes back, is he you know, you got 377 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: to assimilate him back in the lineup? Is he get like, 378 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: how many minutes does he get? He hasn't played yet. 379 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: He hasn't played since January twenty eighth. Because I agree 380 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: that the upside with him fully assimilated into the lineup 381 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: is huge, But is he going to be that? Is 382 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: he going to play full minutes? Is there going to 383 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: be some rust? Is you know so like is there 384 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: like conditioning? 385 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't so, I don't know they have good without 386 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: him though, to your point, and there's nine the nine 387 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: games he missed, they lost three of them combined four points. 388 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: They lost by in those three games, so they haven't 389 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 3: exactly gotten killed by any means. One of them was 390 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: butler bad loss, but they shot horribly. So there are 391 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: a couple possessions away from nine to zero without Freemancele 392 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: in the lineup. Who is arguably behind Boom their most 393 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: impactful player. 394 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, my strategy for this because I'm 395 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: looking to fade Marquette. Marquettet the current price I think 396 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: is is pretty crazy just from where I have them rated. 397 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: I don't think they match up well with Yukon. I 398 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: think could just dominate too big at the rim, So 399 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: like I show some value on Yukon, and so I 400 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: might end up playing Yukon. And then also maybe a 401 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: little like a smaller play on Providence is just a 402 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: dark because I want to fade Marquette at the top, 403 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: because I do think if Providence can just put one 404 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: inspired effort together, then I mean it's pretty you think 405 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: about it. They're fifteen to one. They got to win 406 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 2: one fewer game than Villanova, and they have an easier 407 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: path overall than Villanova, and Villanova's eighth to one, and 408 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: it's look, Georgetown stinks, but it's not a gimme. It's 409 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: not like you're playing Stonybrook. Georgetown still has like a 410 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: lot of talent. They never can put it together, but 411 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: like it's not out of the realm that Georgetown wins 412 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: that game, right, And like. 413 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen you Eve win the Geese Tournament before, right, 414 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: He's he's done it. 415 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll say if George can have some renewed 416 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: life here because they have a talented backcourt, and you 417 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: know Nova plays slow, it's not like that that's one 418 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent given for Nova to advance. So yeah, I'm 419 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: gonna call I think Yukon is playing way too well 420 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: right now, So I'm gonna call you Yukon wins this thing. 421 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: And but if you're if you want to take a 422 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: dart or a flyer, I don't hate Providence because basically 423 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: you're just betting can they put it together for one 424 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: game against Yukon? And you know people are some people 425 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: are always going to talk themselves into the Johnnies. You 426 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: know it's in New York. They're just way too erratic 427 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: and way too inconsistent, like they could upset anybody. This 428 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: is why you know, I want to fade Market too, 429 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: because they could easily beat Butler and then beat Marquette. 430 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: But like putting, you know, them beating two more quality 431 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: opponents in the Big East, I don't see it happening, 432 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: do you agree? 433 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: I agree, too erratic, and I think Mike Anderson knows 434 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 3: he's on the way out, So who knows what what 435 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 3: factors in there are affecting the team. 436 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he's look like he has his style. And 437 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: but the think he started doing the you know they 438 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: go to the the coaches like talk like they know 439 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: what they're talking about during the timeouts on FS one, 440 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: and like the difference between him and then Sean Miller. 441 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: They like when Zavier was planning them, like Sean Miller 442 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: is going into like all right, we need to do 443 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: this and specific like schematics, and and then Anderson's like 444 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: all right, we got a rebound and then like walks away. 445 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, it tells you all I need to know. 446 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good stuff on the Biggest any any 447 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: I guess I should have mentioned this for the Big 448 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: West or Biggest, but for either conference, any matchups in 449 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: the first round or just down the line from a 450 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 2: betting perspective that you're itching to potentially. 451 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 3: See, you know, not in particular. Like I said, I 452 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: really really like this top four Xavier creating Connecticut in particular, 453 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: and I really think if Freemantle comes back, Xavier is 454 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: probably the team to beat. 455 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: Well if you and I agree that, like if you 456 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: just look at this market right now, and then the 457 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: narrative on Villanova, this is they're definitely overvalued overall, and 458 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: you know, you might have to hold your nose, but 459 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: Georgetown probably is gonna have value. Maybe, Well you can 460 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: get a juice your number in the first round. 461 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: There's a two hundred and one I mean no. 462 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: I mean like just against the number against Villanova. 463 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, absolutely, they're gonna be yeah, favored by double digits, 464 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: twelve points probably, Yeah, seems high. 465 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Georgetown played Villanova earlier this year. They 466 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: lost by four at Nova, lost by sixteen at home. 467 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: But they're way more talented than they played. So like 468 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: you get a team like that New Life, Fresh Start. 469 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: One game is a double digit dog. You know, Nova 470 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: plays kind of grinds it out. I think Georgetown is 471 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: probably going to be on my card. Unfortunately or fortunately 472 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: if they end up covering the it hacks up in 473 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: the first half, and then they will have moments this 474 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: is a lot last year. Well, they'll they'll they'll score 475 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: like ten straight in the final minute to get in 476 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: the back door. 477 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 3: Right, that's just what they do. 478 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 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Let's talk a little Mountain West. This 510 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: will be played in the Thomas and mack Centered UNLV's 511 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: home in Las Vegas, Nevada. Between starts on Wednesday, ends 512 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: on Sunday, March eighth to the eleventh. Boise State is 513 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: your defending champion. San Diego State is the one seed 514 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: and the favorite. Utah State is the two seed. Not 515 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: many people will know that if you have someone to 516 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: the shoot. Here's the two seed in the matatles, it's 517 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: Utah State. Boise State is the three seed, Nevadas the four. 518 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: San Jose State is the five. Those five all get 519 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: a buy to Thursday. On Wednesday, you have three first 520 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: round games, Colorado State against Fresno State, UNLV against air Force, 521 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: and New Mexico against Wyoming. I would assume, I think, 522 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: I maybe you're more into bracketology than I think the 523 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: top four seeds are in. Maybe as you toss State in, 524 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: they're right. 525 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: On the cut line. I think their win against Boise 526 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: probably puts them in. For a lot of people. Their 527 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: net is like top twenty, top twenty five right now. 528 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: It'd be really tough for them to keep them out 529 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: right now based on their strength strength of resume. 530 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess if like air Force beats UNLV and 531 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: then they lose the air Force, yeah, that could that 532 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: could hurt. 533 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 3: But they have they have zero Q one wins and 534 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: no at large team has ever had zero Q one wins, 535 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: so that's kind of the precedents they're trying to overcome. 536 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I think it won I mean, if 537 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: they UNLV. Will UNLV be a quad one win? 538 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think they're outside of 539 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: the top seventy five in the NET. 540 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is you and I'll be at like, well 541 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: this count as? Does that count as a road game 542 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: or no? 543 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, good question. That's hom smack right. 544 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe they count that as a road game 545 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: or because it's considered like neutral, but it is a 546 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: road game. 547 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 3: Probably not, Yeah, I mean I know kem pom will 548 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: probably call it like a semi home or a home game. 549 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: But for net purposes, they probably counted as a neutral 550 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 3: eighty nine, so it would be a Q two. But 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: if they get past that game, they play Boise, I 552 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: mean that's a Q one neutral. It should obviously be 553 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 3: a huge one if if they beat them again, it'd 554 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: be really hard to keep them out of the tournament. Actually, 555 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 3: Boise is twenty seventh in the NET. So they did 556 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: pick up a Q one win by beating them at home, 557 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: so they got one fulfilled. 558 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. New Mexico would have to win this tournament, I 559 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 2: believe maybe if yeah, they do too badly. Yeah, if 560 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: you got the championship and you beat like Boise, Utah 561 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: State I still don't think that would be enough. So 562 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: they have to win this thing to get in. Looking 563 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: at the odds in the Mountain West, San Diego State 564 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: is plus one fifty Boise States plus three forty Utah 565 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: States plus three eighty Nevada six to one, New Mexico 566 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: twelve to one, UNLV fourteen to one, San Jeese State 567 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: forty to one, Colorida State sixty to one, and then 568 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: your dregs Fresno Air Force and Wyoming. All right, so 569 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: when I look at this, I mean, San Diego State 570 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: is the best team in the league, but this is 571 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 2: one of those favorites. Plus one fifty come on, absolutely 572 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: no value. They would presumably have to play Nevada Nevada 573 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: in the semi finals, who they split with in the 574 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: regular season, Santego Stit also finally gets gets into these 575 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: grinders where like you know, off shooting night Bradley's off, 576 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: they could lose. Like think about were the Presno State 577 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: beats Colorado State. I'm gonna talk myself into bed President 578 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: State against Coltge State. I know it already. I'm sorry 579 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: everyone listened, But in Friendsno State beats Colorado State. Every 580 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: Fresno State, San Diego State game is like forty eight 581 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: to forty six, like going back to last year. 582 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, even. 583 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: In the in the Mountain West torment there's like fifty 584 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: to it's like the free under think it almost went 585 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: under like a double overtime game last year. So I'm 586 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: looking to there's no value whatsoever in San Diego State. 587 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: So the question becomes, there's New Mexico at twelve to one, 588 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: can they make a run. Now here's the interesting part 589 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: about New Mexico, Boise State, also Boise State. In so 590 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: San Diego State, no value Boise State, the defending champs. 591 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: I want zero part of Boise State. And the reason 592 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: is they have zero bench, no bench whatsoever. And you know, 593 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: if you look at you know, I look at a 594 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: couple of times when they played let's see when they 595 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: played three games in six days this year, they one 596 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: of the time they lost both they lost to at 597 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: New Mexico and then they lost at San Jose State. 598 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: Both games have lost in overtime. Both games they kind 599 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: of wore down at the end. Now they're going have 600 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: to win three games in three days for a team 601 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: that's three hundred and forty ninth in bench minutes, if 602 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: you look in New Mexico, Mexico is going to have 603 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: to win four games in four days. They are very 604 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: reliant on their guards. They are three hundred and forty 605 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: seventh in bench minutes and they got to win an 606 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: extra extra game. So can you MLV make a run 607 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: here at home? What is this like? You gonna go 608 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: back when's last on? UNLV won this at wink Adams 609 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: was the tournament MVP. I think when you've seen high 610 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: level here where the value is in the Mountain West. 611 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: It's tough to peg because I feel like all these 612 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: teams are poor away from home. Only four teams are 613 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: profitable away from home this year against the spread. But 614 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: I guess everyone's on the same playing field here except UNLV, 615 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: the team I trust most San Diego State. But to 616 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 3: your point, there is no value here at plus one 617 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 3: fifty plus one thirty five. I've seen it at a 618 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: book around here in Illinois, and you have to go 619 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: to Nevada, which they're not playing well down the stretch. 620 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: That's a dangerous team with plenty of talent. New Mexico 621 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: does intrigue me, and the reason is they have so 622 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: much talent at the guard position, right it's March. We 623 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: trust guards who can basically create their own shots, and 624 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: they have two of them with House in Mashburn. I 625 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: think they're well coached, and at the beginning of the year, 626 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: when healthy, this team was awesome. They're eighteen and two 627 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 3: at one point. Obviously injuries kind of slowed them down 628 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: the back end, but they could definitely make a run. 629 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: They have the formula that they can shoot, and they've 630 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 3: also beaten Boise and San Diego State this season. Otherwise, 631 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: I look for a team with really good defense. That 632 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: is San Diego State and Boise. Boise to their favor. 633 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: They have no bench, but they have Marcus Shaver, a 634 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: guard who can get a bucket experience point guard, and 635 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: they have a fantastic defense. So I'm kind of leaning 636 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: towards Boise as my pick here. Utah State intrigues me 637 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: as well. Again, a team that can shoot, but I'm 638 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: thinking I think I'm gonna submit my pick for a 639 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 3: flyer on New Mexico here as the best value. 640 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of the bench where the bench does 641 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: wear me for both boys in New Mexico. You're obviously 642 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: getting a much better price with New Mexico, but they're 643 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: going to play one extra game, but I was kind 644 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: of pricing out based on my power ratings. What a 645 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: money line rollover four game money on rollover New Mexico 646 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: be it's like right around twelve thirteen to one. Now 647 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: you might have some I might not be pricing properly 648 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: the fatigue, so there might be like a point or 649 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: two more, but it's not like an egregious price where 650 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: you can moneyline roll over this. In regards to UNLV, 651 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: the home team, my concern for UNLV they play air 652 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: Force to start, which I mean Force isn't no gimme 653 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: at all. They should be like a seven ish seven 654 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: and a half point favor They did just close the year. 655 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: I mean they beat They beat air Force by one 656 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 2: at home for what it's worth, Like two weeks ago. 657 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: They did just beat Nevada to close the year in overtime. 658 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: My problem is healthy guys can't get health there too. 659 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 2: But Utah State not a great matchup for them, and 660 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: they were waxed just March first at home by what 661 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: twenty five against Utah State. He did play them closer 662 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: on the road, but do you have and look, they 663 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: have a really good defense, they're healthier, they have a 664 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: deep bench, so the team's going to win four games 665 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: and four days they are a little deeper. They'll have 666 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: the home court. You'll hear a lot of rebles. Although 667 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: Thomas and Mac like, I've used to go out to 668 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 2: Vegas every year for this weekend or this upcoming weekend, 669 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: and I was always shocked at the amount of New 670 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: Mexico fans that were there. Well, yeah, they travel really 671 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: well and like this is a sort of that they 672 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: have to have, so you'll see a lot of New Mexico. 673 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: You'll see Yeah, you know, I won't be as as 674 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: dominant of a crowd for UNLV as you think. The 675 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: best game I ever saw there, I went to a 676 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: couple of games in the mountainst tournaments. I saw Jimmer 677 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: for debt drop like fifty What did he have against 678 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: UNLV in the Mounta West tournament. 679 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's done it multiple times. 680 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was he scored fifty two points and I 681 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 2: think I think that was against New Mexico, but I 682 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: don't know that was. That's my It was just an 683 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: awesome game to watch. But and so Kent, do you 684 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: think you NLV has any chance of making a run here. 685 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: If I'm going to give credit to Boise for having 686 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 3: a great point guard then created some shots. I got 687 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: to give credit to you and LB two because j. 688 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: Harkless is definitely a guy he can get a bucket. 689 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: He's a senior, really experienced, and like I said before, 690 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: they're healthier with Louis Rodriguez coming back in the lineup. 691 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 3: You could argue they're a bit undervalued analytically because they've 692 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 3: had guys in and out of the lineup, and yeah, 693 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: of course at home, always going to have a chance 694 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: in a tournament setting. And to your point, they do 695 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: play great defense. If for it's a lot of turnovers, 696 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: which is really key at the current market price, Yeah, 697 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: there can be a little value here in eighteen to one. 698 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm worried about San Diego State, obviously they play or 699 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: excuse me, on the other side of the bracket, I 700 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: worry about Utah State, But from a value perspective, I 701 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: could get there on UNLV if he attempted me. 702 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's tough. Like I wish that some of 703 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: the In a way, I wish like San Diego State 704 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: got the two seed because there's just zero value in them. 705 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: And if you look like San Diego State is very good. 706 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: Their defense is elite. But look, they beat what New 707 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: Mexico on a three at the buzzer by two. They 708 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: beat Fresno State by two a chance to win that 709 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 2: game on a three. They beat Utah State by two. 710 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: They beat Colorado State in overtime. You know, just then margins, Yeah, 711 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: like that, there's it's a team that's gonna go rind 712 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: it out and it could easily go down. Like just 713 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: the price. There's absolutely no value there, which I think 714 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: creates a little bit of value on Nevada. But I 715 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 2: think that I think that if you're going to play 716 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: this conference tournament, the way to go is and because 717 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: of that, you know, maybe you don't get San Diego 718 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: State in the final is you take a flyer on 719 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: either if you want to back the home reps or 720 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: if you want to back the guards of New Mexico 721 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: to make a run. I think that's the way to 722 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: go here. Anything you're looking at first round or down 723 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 2: the line of a potential matchup to bet. 724 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna fade Wyoming. That's that's my first fade. 725 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna hang with New Mexico at all. 726 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: They just beat Nevada. That surprised the heck out of me. 727 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: I don't know how they did that, frankly, but they 728 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: show their true colors again at San Diego State. I 729 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: think they're just totally lifeless at this point. They're ready 730 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: for their season to be over. So I'll probably be 731 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: targeting New Mexico first round. 732 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, just an absolutely cursed year for YOM. Mean injuries. 733 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 2: Grammy k the preseason player of the year, never played 734 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: red shirted, and you know they kicked off the three 735 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: kids got kicked off the team. And if the thing 736 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: that sucks is I was looking at this conference tournament 737 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 2: like this episode right now, about a month and a 738 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: half ago, and I was like, I'm going to be 739 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: pimping Wyoming for a long shot, Like assuming ek was 740 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: going to come back right right, they would be healthy 741 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: with Maldonado. They're really well coached, but it's just the 742 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: shell of the team they are. They can't really make 743 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 2: a run here all right, One final conference tournament to 744 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: get to and that is the whack. This is also 745 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 2: in the battle. This will be in Paradise at the 746 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: at Orleans Arena. Starts on Tuesday, ends on Saturday. Top 747 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 2: four seeds get a buy. That is Sam Houston State, 748 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: who is the favorite at plus one twenty, Utah value 749 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 2: plus one seventy, Southern Utah seven to one, Seattle fifteen 750 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: to one. And then you have Grand Canyon, who doesn't 751 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 2: have to buy. They're fourteen to one Sam Houston State. Look, 752 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: they are the best team in this league. Plus one 753 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: twenty is crazy. I have them? What do I have 754 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 2: thirty something percent thirty two percent to win this zero 755 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: value whatsoever. This is another case where the top seed 756 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 2: and the best team might be creating value elsewhere. High level. 757 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 2: What are you seeing in the whack? 758 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, weird seeding because the new Mexico 759 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 3: State thing. They used a formula to see this tournament. 760 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 3: Utah Valley actually won the league, but they're the two seed. 761 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 3: I agree Sam Houston and Utah value price just based 762 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 3: on the overall talent and the ability of the rest 763 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: of the league. This is a really good league, really 764 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: tough from seeds three through even nine. I would say 765 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: so for teams to be fit to be priced at 766 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: one twenty five and one fifty, where you're getting Southern 767 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 3: Utah at eight to one in Seattle, I see twenty 768 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: to one out here. I think that's very mispriced. I 769 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 3: would rather bet on Southern Utah and Seattle, who also 770 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: have buys in this bracket at those prices, versus taking 771 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 3: Utah Valley or Sam Houston, who I really do like. 772 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 3: I think they're incredible teams and I might even back 773 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: them in the install of a turnam if they get there. 774 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: The value just isn't there. Seattle, though, swept Grand Canyon, 775 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 3: that's their first opponent. They beat Utah Valley, and they've 776 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: also shot really poorly as of late, which is not 777 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: indicative of their true ability. They shoot a lot of threes, 778 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: they usually make them in conference play, especially down the stretch, 779 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 3: they've been missing shots. They're probably due for some regression. 780 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 3: The concern is that they play Sam Houston. They got 781 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,479 Speaker 3: handled by them. They don't foul, they handle the ball well. 782 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 3: There They're good against Sam Houston, but it did not 783 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 3: return good results during the season. And again Southern Utah 784 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: kind of the same thing with the value perspective. They 785 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 3: split with Utah Valley, that the most experienced team in 786 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 3: the league, and they have really really top end talent 787 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 3: with Tavion Jones. So I probably target one of those 788 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 3: two teams instead of the favorites. 789 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see Southern what's the best price you see 790 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: in Southern Utah? 791 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 3: I see eight to one on one book. That's all 792 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 3: I got up right now. 793 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that as well. That The interesting thing 794 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: about this conference specifically is now Sam Houston state they 795 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: want to and they can. They can pressure you into 796 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: turnovers for days now. They can cough it up themselves. 797 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 2: But this conference is very match up dependent. And then 798 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 2: certain teams play very different styles. You know, you have 799 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 2: some teams that play extremely fast, Utah Valley, Southern Utah, 800 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: Rio grand Is of just the Rent. Yeah, they want 801 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 2: to play as fast as possible. And then you have 802 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 2: some some snails cal Baptists, you know, Grand Canyon. Sam 803 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: Houston wants to grind the game down to a halt 804 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: as well. If you're looking at potential long shots, maybe 805 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 2: just if someone. 806 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 4: Wants to hedge, could a team like let's see, let's 807 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 4: start in the in the medium col Baptists. 808 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,479 Speaker 2: Taron Armstrong is a really good player. If you haven't 809 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 2: seen him play. I think they're dealing with some injuries now. 810 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 2: They've also not fared well against these teams that can 811 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: pressure them and kind of get up into their face 812 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: and they struggle with the physicality, which makes it. 813 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 3: Which a really tough first round matchup too. 814 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: Yep, So any any of the teams that are you know, 815 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: kind of col Baptists on down worth a flyer. I mean, 816 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: Ablie Christian. I can never figure out there's a team 817 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: that if I had to say who costs me the 818 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 2: most money over the last two years, it's it's Abline Christian. 819 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 2: They got hot right around this time last year, and 820 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: it's a team with a deep bench, their experience. Now, 821 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 2: on paper, they force a ton of turnovers with the 822 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 2: way that their defense is schemed, and they don't turn 823 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: it over a lot, but their defense they just give 824 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: up so many wide every time I watch them, they 825 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 2: have so many wide open threes, and teams are shooting 826 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 2: a thirty seven point in league play. Teams are shooting 827 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 2: forty two from three, fifty five five percent from two. Yeah, 828 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's ridiculous. So their defense is just but 829 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 2: they don't cause a turnover, you're getting a wide open shot. 830 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: So any of the long shots even worth exploring or 831 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 2: is it just let's look in the that medium range 832 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: where they kind of one step below the top teams. 833 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ablien's tough because the one of the smallest teams 834 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 3: in the country. So they gamble and overplay, and if 835 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 3: you get past that, you're scoring. There's no resistance at 836 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 3: the rim. The team I'm keeping an eye on which 837 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,959 Speaker 3: I see eighty to one out here is Tarleton State. 838 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 3: Because of their chaotic style. I think they could make 839 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: a run kind of like Abilene, but to a different 840 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 3: degree this season. If a team is even slightly shaky 841 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 3: handling the ball and or fouls a lot, there is 842 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: a path for Tarleton to simply outwork them. They already 843 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 3: be Utah Valley once already this season. They forced nineteen 844 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: turnovers in that game. They shot thirty eight free throws. 845 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 3: That's just what they do. So if a ref is 846 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 3: feeling generous in terms of the whistle, if he's if 847 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 3: he has a tight whistle that night, Tarleton is a 848 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 3: really good shot at knocking off a big name opponent. 849 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. They It's a very interesting team because their games 850 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: are going to have a shit ton of free throws 851 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 2: they are. 852 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 3: Don't watch them, don't watch the game. 853 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 2: They also can't They only can score from two or 854 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: the line. They never shoot grease. So it's like, you know, 855 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: if you look at their analytical profile, they're number one 856 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: in the nation in free throw attempt right on defense, 857 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 2: they're number three hundred and sixty two, and so that's 858 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 2: they're going to get to the line of ton their 859 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 2: opponent's going to get the line to the time. They 860 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: force a lot of turnovers. They never shoot threes, and 861 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: when they shoot twos, they're not very good at it. 862 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 2: But if they're getting in the line and forcing turnovers, 863 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 2: Billy Gillespie's squad has has some juice. Yeah, they're they're 864 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 2: an interesting team. Their path would be Rio Grand, which has. 865 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 3: Seventy two free throws. Last game between the two when 866 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: they made it. 867 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 2: They got swept. They got swept by Rio Grand. 868 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 3: They're Tougho Grand fouls like nobody's business and can't handle 869 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: the ball. It's like a perfect Charleton matchup. 870 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 2: Rio Grand is second in the nation in free throw 871 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 2: attempt three. So that's the first round matchup. You have 872 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: Charleton's number one in the country and Rio Grand's number 873 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: two tar and then Rio Grand's number three thirty. I 874 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 2: think in defensive yeah, there's going to be a trillion 875 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,240 Speaker 2: free throws in that game, but Charlot he got swept 876 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 2: by Rio Grand. Both were really really close, and then 877 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: they'd have to play Utah Valley. 878 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 879 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 2: I guess they could be an intriguing long shot, but 880 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: it's hard to see them with the way that they 881 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 2: play winning. I mean, Rio Grand, I don't know how 882 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: did Rio Grand sweep them? They because you're a good 883 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 2: turns it over all the time. Charleton swept. 884 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: Oh did real Grand? Sweet Charleton? Wow? Yeah, I missed that. 885 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 3: I'm shot. Yeah they did. Man. I thought thought Charleston 886 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 3: was a great matchup for him, but they did. They did. 887 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 2: Ready, you want to hear the first So Rio Grand 888 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: just beat Tarleton ninety nine to ninety five. This is 889 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: February twenty fifth, in overtime. Charleton finished the game one 890 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 2: of eleven from three. Game went to overtime. He was 891 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: in the nineties. One of eleven from three. Yeah, and 892 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: then the first meeting they shot thirteen four or thirteen 893 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 2: from three. Yeah. It's just there's gonna be a ton 894 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 2: of free throws. So I would think theoretically, I'm gonna 895 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 2: let's see, Yeah, Tarleton's probably gonna be like a four 896 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 2: or five point favorite throats. It's tough to lay points 897 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: with them. But Rio Grand there's a ton of possessions 898 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 2: because they just want to play so fat. I might 899 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: look Tarleton did that first matchup against Rio Grand, and 900 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: then they might have something. I like them as a dog. 901 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: I like Tarleton as a dog. 902 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 3: More so the better dog, much better dog. 903 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 2: Maybe a good money one parlay piece on Wednesday. So yeah, 904 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 2: I think we're on the same patriot. Sam Houston is 905 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 2: very good. They're playing very well, but there's just I mean, 906 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 2: it's probably one of as far as like when I 907 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: just compare my probability to the actual odds plus one twenty. 908 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: Come on, do not bet that if you like Sam 909 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 2: Houston you'll get better odds if you if you bet 910 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: them with a moneyline. Rover always remember to that. So yeah, 911 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 2: I think I would agree with you. I think that 912 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: it's what do we say, Utah value eight to one? 913 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 2: You can find Southern Utah so the new timing excuse me, 914 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 2: Southern Utah eight one? 915 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good. We didn't talk about Stephen F. Austin. 916 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: Clearly they're usually a team that does pretty well in 917 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 3: these tournaments. Southland Whack another kind of helter skelter team. 918 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 3: Eleven to one, four games, four games in four days. 919 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 3: Maybe think about it, but I prefer Southern Utah. 920 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Steven F. Austin. Let's see, their path would be Utahs. 921 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 2: I'd see the turns it over time, they force a 922 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 2: ton of turnovers. They want to play fast, they get 923 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: to the line a ton. They you know, it's a 924 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: they want to heavy pressure team. They do have a 925 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 2: deep bench. They go deep, which is good here. They 926 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: don't shoot any threes, but they're good when they do. 927 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: They took they played Sam Houston very tough both times. 928 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 2: With Sam Houston is on the other side of the bracket, 929 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: their path would be Utah Tech. I think they if 930 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 2: they beat Utah Tech pretty handily when they Yeah, when 931 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 2: they play they should force a ton of turnovers in 932 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 2: that game, so that's a pretty good matchup for them. 933 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 2: Then they would play Southern Utah. Say they lost by nine, 934 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 2: and I think that was their only meeting Southern Utah. 935 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't I don't hate Steven F. Austin 936 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 2: as a long shot. Something just seems off with them 937 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, this is a really tough conference to crack, 938 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: but the one seed I just don't think has any value. 939 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 2: So if you want to take a shot you mentioned Seattle, 940 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,479 Speaker 2: I think Southern Utah probably has the most value given 941 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 2: their talent level. How about grant any thoughts on Grand Canyon. 942 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 3: I don't love them just because of the black Shair injury. 943 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 3: You know, they've played okay without him, but in a 944 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 3: tournament setting, you know, same odds as Seattle, and they're 945 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 3: gonna get past their first round opponent. I think U T. 946 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 3: Arlington not not too scared of them, but I think 947 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 3: Seattle is just as good and they had to play 948 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 3: one less game, So prefer the RedHawks. 949 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have been Grand Canyon would have been 950 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 2: a super interesting team At Blacks. You're not gotten hurt. 951 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 2: They pretty much need like Ray Arison to go here 952 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: ball now, and that's going to be a tough ask 953 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 2: for four games and what five I think this is 954 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: four games in five days. So yeah, I agree with you. 955 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: That pretty much put their season to bed. All right, 956 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: good stuff. That wraps up the Big East, the Mountain West, 957 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 2: the Whack, and the Big West. I think we're on 958 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: the same page that Mountain West, Whack, and Big West. 959 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 2: Those favorites just have no value and way over priced. 960 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 2: So there's opportunities to attack maybe one step below, and 961 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 2: then in the case of like the Mountain West, if 962 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: you want to take a shot with a New Mexico 963 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 2: or UNLV and then in the Big East. I think 964 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: it's the opposite. I think, actually Yukon, with the weight 965 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: that they're playing over the past month, that they actually, 966 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 2: I actually show some value. They're basically priced the same 967 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 2: as Marquette, which I disagree with. So I show a 968 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: little bit of value on Yukon and then on the 969 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 2: same token because I think Marquette is overvalued and and 970 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 2: by the way, Villanova is awfully priced, so you might 971 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 2: want to attack if you want to play them money 972 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 2: line rollover. If you want to attack them on the 973 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 2: bottom half. I can see that. Because Marquette is I 974 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 2: think overvalue, that makes Yukon even more valuable. But if 975 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 2: you want to just say look, because I don't think 976 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 2: the Johnny's can make a run. But if you want 977 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 2: to say Providence could put one effort together against Yukon, 978 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: because the Johnny's can certainly win two games and beat Marquette, 979 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 2: then then that Providence fifteen to one picket will look 980 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 2: super juicy. You've seen coolly make a run there before 981 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 2: Any final thoughts on any of the turns that we 982 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: talked about. 983 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 3: No, I'm just excited to watch. I think the whack 984 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 3: the Big West is going to be highly competed. Hope 985 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 3: we get some great games. 986 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will make sure you tune in to two 987 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 2: other conference tournament previews. I'll be doing one with mister 988 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 2: Jim Root later tonight. We'll be covering four conferences, and 989 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 2: then another one tomorrow morning, which will be out in 990 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 2: the afternoon on Monday, covering I think, like six others. 991 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 2: I do have to ask you before you go. I'll 992 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: put you on the spot if you need to dig 993 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: for twenty seconds. Is there any future could be not 994 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 2: just not a conference that we talked about, could be 995 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: a national title future, or it could be going on 996 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: right now, any other future that you think is worth mentioning. 997 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 3: All right, let's see here. I'm gonna dig for a 998 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 3: Natty title future. See. The problem is that I think 999 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 3: UCLA is a real, real contender for the title this season. 1000 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can find better than nine 1001 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 3: to one, that's what I'm seeing here. If you can 1002 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 3: find ten to one are better, I think they're a 1003 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,479 Speaker 3: really good bet. I'm just super impressed by this team. 1004 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,680 Speaker 3: They have basically every single ingredient I'm looking for in 1005 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 3: a champion, So I'm looking for the Bruins. 1006 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,959 Speaker 2: If you could find yukon twenty to one, like I said, 1007 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: they're the number one team over the past month, or Torvick, 1008 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 2: ye'd be pretty intriguing, right. 1009 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 3: I am investing them already for some twenty six to one. 1010 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 3: I think I got it earlier this season, but yeah, 1011 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 3: twenty one is still out there at some places. Yeah, 1012 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 3: I would be okay with that. They could get a 1013 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 3: three seed. Still, they're on the four line I think 1014 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 3: right now, but a three seed is very possible. 1015 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have some twenty three to one. I might 1016 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 2: add a little bit on twenty to one with the 1017 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 2: way that they're trending. If you had all right, so 1018 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: you didn't get a conference turn, the Futures'll ask you 1019 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: one other questions. If you had a ride with three 1020 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: teams going into the dance. I think I asked Jim 1021 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 2: this on our Big Bets on Campus Live show, which 1022 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 2: we will have another episode on Tuesday morning. 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