1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast tries to live up to 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: the gold standard. Welcome back to another edition of the 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: I'm joined by room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What up boys, how are you buddy? 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Welcome back this weekend. This was the weekend that I 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: told my wife training campus. Here is Dan just said, 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: I will not see you until roughly mid February. It's 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: a good way to put it, like say, helloa of 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: the boys for me, you even say goodbye to them, 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: or you just you know, you have easier to just 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: whisk yourself out the door Mark. Mark is alluding to 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: the fact that training camp has begun. The Bills reported 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Friday to everybody else is reporting today in this week, 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: and we are in the swing of things. And as 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: we said last week, we're back to three times a week, 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: so we will be doing a show this week Monday, 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday. So you're gonna get plenty of NFL 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: high octane content all year. We're very excited. It's fun, 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: fun to do the podcast, so we're happy to do it. 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: We started doing some TD and I were talking about 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: some planning for the season, Sunday night shows and our 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Thursday preview shows and all sorts of stuff we've got 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: cooked up for you. Yeah, so get excited. We're excited. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: We're getting ready to kick into training camp. We got 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a great show today. We are going to Chris Westling 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: still out back, actually back in the office sense he's 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: he's working remotely from Cincinnati this week after his vacation. 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: He'll be back in person next week. But we're gonna 30 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: get him on the phone today and talk to him, 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: catch up with him, see if you know, first he's 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: still alive. That's important to check in as he's still 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: setting it. We'll check in on that, just all these 34 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: different things, and then we'll talk a little football with 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: him as well. Does that sound like a good idea more? Yeah? 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: I think the first two points are especially salient. We 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: have we have no concept to where he is right well, 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: if he's not alive, I feel like we probably shouldn't 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: even try to talk football with him. Did we just 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: drop sentient and salient in back to back? H What 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: is SENTI man, I don't even know even sentient sentient? Yeah, 42 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: like a es sentient living, a true genuine being, Alright, whatever. 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Everybody knows what I'm talking about. Um, and we're gonna 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: do news as we always do. When I just want 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: to say hi to t D. How you doing, buddy? 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: It's going on guds. Are you guys doing doing great? 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Alright? Fun? Weekend played a lot 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: of sports, but uh we did right now, but we 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: did in fact, Yes, on Sunday morning, t D and 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I with as well as a collection of other NFL 51 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: media uh comrades, hit the the hard court and played 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: some basketball. Yeah, why are you so surprised to I? Well, 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, should I? T D? A who saw 54 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: me raining long range shots out on the court next 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: to NFL network. I have a schoolyard three point percentage 56 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: shooting percentage career that dates back to the late eighties. 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: It's stunning. Do I get a called sound? Real guys 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: are getting together and playing basketball. You weren't looped in, 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: you're the percentage of your shots going in as high. 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: But if you take away ones that go off the backboard. First, 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: you're a big glass guy. You're a big glass from 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: straight a technician. But let's stick. Let's see the people 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: that were on the court and you're invited, you know, 64 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: going forward after the fact, I didn't hear anything about 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: it either. As you know, no one's not gonna be 66 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: as fun. I didn't organize this. By the way, TV 67 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: who calls himself young Kobe going dating back to his 68 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: days in Nigeria and uh Atlanta calls himself young Kobe, 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: and I will say I was a teammate with t 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: D and t D Carratace. The two wins just based 71 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: on his dynamic athleticism. Well that's a stretch, you know. 72 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: It was never the most athletic type. But yeah, a 73 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: couple of come from behind wins that have to pull 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the team through, hit a couple of shots to win it. 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: But uh, I did not call myself young Kobe. I'm 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: saying with growing up gyms and places I would play at, 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: they would always sullhow come back, Oh that's that's it 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: was you only you've mentioned this on Twitter and you 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: only have a hundred and forty characters to work with, 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: so you made the choice to bring up how they 81 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: would call you young Kobe. Ultimately, that's you calling yourself. 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: You're putting it out. We never would have known if 83 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: you didn't put it out, because that was preceded by 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: the fact of me saying young Kobe is the only 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. I'm a fan. Oh so I just wanted 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: to to give contact and why have that connection somewhat 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: real quick, go Daniel Jeremiah on us scout Dan's play. 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Who would you compare him to? I said this last 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: week on Twitter. Actually, Dan has a little you know, 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: has a little Jay Tol you know, has a little 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: j But he helps the ball a bit much when 92 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: he catches it, you know, sometimes you want to pass 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: it and go. He's more of a a Caramelo Anthony type. 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Volume compared himself to r Vida Sabonis, whichever I like. 95 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: I was playing less than I didn't like that. That 96 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: was the first time TD saw many have bad left knee. 97 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Because my my career is winding down. When I look 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: at Dan, I see a Kevin McHale gone to seed 99 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: and old Brad Miller. I like, all of these are 100 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: all great. That's great analysis. I'll tell you this though 101 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: Dan does not like to lose. That doesn't like to lose. 102 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: That's great. You know, we played a game of horse afterwards. 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: We actually played against with Yeah, we called an a 104 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: t L and we went down to the wire, I 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: ended up winning again. Not however, though Dan was you know, 106 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: he did not like to lose. Are you allowed to 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: set up your own jobs? Yeah? Um yeah, alright, so yes, 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: good job on the victory, t D and I. It 109 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: should be noted that I dropped a hook on him 110 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: that he had a match just to stay alive in 111 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: the in the battle before we moved on. But good 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: job by you, buddy. We're gonna do some news, but 113 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little special bit of news because 114 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna get Ross Tucker on the phone. And of 115 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: course Ross Tucker, um former NFL player, now works at 116 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Network. There's a bunch of other stuff, has 117 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, a lot of stuff going 118 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: on with the Ross. We've had him on the show before, 119 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: so we're gonna get him on the line and he's 120 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: gonna do news with us. So why don't we do 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: some news. Where all we got, where all we got? 122 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Where are we got that? Training camps? Back teams are 123 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: ready to go. My man Richard Sherman right there on 124 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: the call. Alright, I like it, speaking of on the call, 125 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, are you there, buddy? I am there. He 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: is Ross Tucker. Of course, as we said, he has 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: his own podcast which is called the What the Ross 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Tucker Football Podcast makes sense? I'm good at football, I'm 129 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking about football. I'm just not really that imaginative. Unfortunately, 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: that's quite all right. We would left to have you 131 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: back to the second time Ross has been on the show, 132 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: and we were thinking, Ross, because we value you as 133 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: a football mind, We're gonna go through our headlines and 134 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: just do some NFL news and we're gonna get you 135 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: in the mix and you know, take part in the 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: headlines with us today. How's that sound. Let's do it. 137 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: It's like I'm a regular NFL around the League writer 138 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: right now, this is it's getting real. We're looking for 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: someone Ros so you never know. Now you're too expensive 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: for us, but yeah, alright, so let's start in Buffalo, 141 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: where over the weekend, Marcel Darius, who's had a pretty 142 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: discouraging offseason, was placed in the nine non football injury 143 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: list because he failed his conditioning test. We learned um that, yes, 144 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: he failed the conditioning test. That's why he's not there. 145 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: And Doug Morone, obviously the Bills coach, not happy about it. 146 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: Here's a quote from Doug. He needs to focus on 147 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: getting himself ready. Don't have to read very hard between 148 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: the lines to see that the Bills can't be very 149 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: happy with a guy that made strides last season, of course, 150 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: but now is obviously in a tenuous spot with his team. 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: There's no question. And let's let's anotherbody's talking about E. J. 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Minge in the offense. But they've lost the best guy 153 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: they had at the second and third levels of the defense, 154 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean Alondo towards a t L. He's out for 155 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: the year. Jerry's burn went to New Orleans a free agency. 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: You guys already know that. But they also brought in 157 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, who, quite frankly, I don't think he's good 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: of a defensive coach as Mike Petton was. And we 159 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: only know one thing for sure about Jim Schwartz defenses, 160 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: which is he basically bases the entire thing on the 161 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: D line, right, I mean, he basically says, I'm gonna 162 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: have a beastly D line. They're gonna dominate, and we'll 163 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: get it done with the other guys. This is a problem. 164 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy you mentioned the offseason, he's had 165 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: he's had some issues with being overweight. He's very inconsistent. 166 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: He makes a bunch of splash plays, but he's very 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: inconsistent in the run game. And this to me, as 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: if the drag racing and the possession of a controlled 169 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: substance and being benched for parts of the last two 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: games last year, as if that's not enough of a 171 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: red flag. Failing a conditioning test is just crazy to me. 172 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: I've seen it happen, and you're either lazy, or your 173 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: careless or your boat. I mean, any any guy that 174 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: takes the job seriously and cares about it, they're gonna 175 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: pass those things. There's a bunch of different ones. I 176 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: mean there's shuttles, there's um, you know, seventy two yards 177 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: what we should do in Buffalo. But whatever they are, 178 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: they're designed to be difficult, but so that most guys 179 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: make it. But they don't want guys not practicing. I mean, 180 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: they want think guys to practice. It really is just 181 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: for the guys that are totally out of shape so 182 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: that they can point them out. The fact that he 183 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: is in that list is highly disconcerting and just really 184 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: excited to think about how close this guy is to 185 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: a big second contract going in the year four and 186 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: the mess of an off season he's had. So you 187 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: didn't fail any con tests, ross, No, and Dan failed 188 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: his last week. I don't want to talk about it. 189 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: You did, we showed up. We each had to make 190 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: three point basket. Um. No, I don't know we none 191 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: of us are just making things up. No, But seriously, 192 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: I think the fastest four you time I've ever reign 193 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: was a five four so and and Darius was four 194 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: nine at the combine in the forties. So for him 195 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: to not be able to pass a conditioning test, I mean, 196 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: we could say that this means nothing and he'll be 197 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: ready to go week one, and I'm sure it will 198 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: be out there week one, but it certainly makes you wonder. Well, 199 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be out there because what's 200 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: hanging over him still is to arrest from the off season. 201 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: It's a little unclear if the NFL is considering suspending him, 202 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be that big of a surprise considering 203 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: he was arrested twice that they consider, you know, taking 204 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: him out of the mix for the first game or two. 205 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: And you mentioned, as you said, the Bills count so 206 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: much on that defensive line. It's great one on paper, 207 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't shock me if he's out of the 208 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: mix the first few weeks of the season. In fairness, though, 209 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: which one of us hasn't ever gone drag racing, got 210 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: an accident. It's good to bring that up because that 211 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: applies to all of us. The The NFL is taking 212 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: a break from the Big Apple. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell 213 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: said Thursday that the league is narrowed down it's two 214 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen NFL draft options to Los Angeles and Chicago. 215 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: The event has been held in New York City every 216 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: year since nineteen and has been at Radio City Music 217 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: Hall since two thousand and six. What do we think 218 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: about this, gentleman. What's amazing to me is nobody cares. 219 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: I talked to all my listeners on serious radio. Nobody cares. 220 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: They're all watched on TV anyway. There is a small 221 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: group of people that fly to go to it. I 222 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: don't really understand that, but they do. This is something 223 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: that the NFL is gonna make money from, and good 224 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: for them, I guess. I actually hope it's in l 225 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: A because I just want to see the amount of 226 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: buzz that it would generate and how much excitement there'd 227 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: be in l A. I know, maybe it wouldn't be 228 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: a great indication of the readiness for an NFL franchise there, 229 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: But if there's no buzz, it's totally dead. I think 230 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: I would certainly hurt l A's chances. I think that 231 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: having been there at Radio City this past May, obviously 232 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a different draft because 233 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 1: of the big names and Manzille and all that, But 234 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: I got the distinct feeling having been a three of these, 235 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: now that it's starting to outgrow Radio City and Radio 236 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: City and the NFL seemed to not be on the 237 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: same page with this, it makes sense that it would 238 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: move to a different venue. The thing that I find interesting, 239 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: I guess as people that cover the draft closely, is 240 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: that they're gonna move it to four days, it sounds 241 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: like instead of three, and it's just the NFL is 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna make this a bigger event, so get ready for 243 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft to become an even bigger part of 244 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: the lead calendar. I think what they're trying to do 245 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: here and I think they want to be able to 246 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: identify by who the real sickos are and the people 247 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: that are there on day four. They want to be 248 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: able to point those people out, either to make sure 249 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: like we're all aware of them, we have a list 250 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of who these people are, or to try to just 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: milk those people for every dollar, knowing how crazy they 252 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: really are. You asked what the excitement level would be 253 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I'm sure they'll manage to fill up 254 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: whatever venue they choose, and they'll get some big football 255 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: fans that will make some noise or whatever. But the 256 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: overall excitement level in Los Angeles, I can give you 257 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: a preview, it's not going to be very high. I mean, 258 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: I live here, you know, we all live here, and 259 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: I feel like the sports culture in general makes a 260 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: pretty low dent on the overall population. And that even 261 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: goes to like there's just a Stanley Cup team that 262 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: won the you know one at all, and the Laker. 263 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Of course, people are into the big teams, but compared 264 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: to the city's like Chicago or New York or Boston, 265 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: it's just it's not even close. If if you would 266 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: planned to take your child to a Giant's game this 267 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: year is a hey, this is your chance to see 268 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: Chris Knee play. It's not gonna happen anymore. Chris Knee 269 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: announced his retirement Monday, And as as I make that joke, 270 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I feel weird because I feel like Ross Tucker might 271 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: get mad that I'm disrespecting an offensive lineman. Are things 272 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: weird Ross the way I've started this new segment. No, 273 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I understand people don't go to the game to see 274 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. I get it. But there were a 275 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: bunch of years when the Giants were really good on 276 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: offense in large part because of the offensive line group 277 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: that I even wrote this on Twitter um which is 278 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: at Ross Tucker NFL pay since since two thousand I 279 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: think that the old line the Giants had from like 280 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: oh six to two thousand nine, maybe two thousand ten, 281 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: that wasn't my favorite offensive line. I mean Deal left tackle, Soybert, 282 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: left guard, o'harad center, Snee at right guard, Karen Mackenzie 283 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: at right tackle. You know, now the first rounder in 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: the bunch, a couple of free agents, and they were awesome. 285 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there were a couple of years there where 286 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,359 Speaker 1: they were the best old line in football. Jacobs Branshaw 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: with dominating Eli would getting sacked like eight times a year. 288 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: And what's awesome about that is I don't know that 289 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: any of those guys, none of them are Hall of 290 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Fame type guys. And you know, a couple of them 291 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: went to a couple of Pro Bowls, But I actually 292 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: think that that was as much a result of the 293 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: unit success as anything. Those guys, to me, kind of 294 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: embodied what the offensive lines about, which is, it's not 295 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: about one dude, It's about five guys working together. They 296 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: really liked each other, they got along, they hung out, 297 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: they spent years together, and all those things, for whatever reason, 298 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: go a long way towards success in that group. Yeah. No, 299 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: Herod actually just tweeted out a photo of the five 300 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: of them walking through this like sunlit field together. So 301 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: maybe a little more legendary than we're giving them credit for. 302 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: But you know, for you, because you played the line, 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: you know what it's like, I guess at the end 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,479 Speaker 1: of your career to have accumulated various knicks and surgeries 305 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: and for for the amount of pain that these guys 306 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: deal with and snee obviously surgery was an issue for him. 307 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Can you enlighten the listener that's never stepped on the 308 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: field what that's like well, I think this is a 309 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: smart decision by Chris. I can tell you. I mean, 310 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: he's thirty two. He's played a lot to know what 311 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: the problem is. Every guy knows that when you're playing 312 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: that you're doing damage to your body. But when you're 313 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight, nobody you're not able to know what how 314 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel when you're thirty eight or forty eight 315 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: or fifty eight or sixt eight. I mean, you hear 316 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: things and you and you think about it, but you 317 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: don't know for sure. I mean, right now as I'm 318 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: talking to you, guys, my back from the surgery had 319 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: in Buffalo slayed up this month, and so I've got 320 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: a lumbar pillow in my back right now, so I 321 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: can sit down and talk to you guys. It's just 322 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: a lot of guys tell you it's about five or 323 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: ten years when you're done that these things crop up. 324 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: And fact he said that his elbow was hurting him 325 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: even just trying to punch guys in O t A 326 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: s That to me is a red flag. That's probably 327 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: something he'll have an issue with forever. And that's the 328 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: mindset you don't get till late in your NFL Curve 329 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: High School college, Like, oh, I tore my m C 330 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: l Okay, I'm out six weeks. You don't think about 331 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know what, like I'm not a machine. 332 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's going to be healthy and feel 333 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: good for the rest of my life. And I have 334 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: things crop up all the time. I mean I get 335 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: like I got a massage, I mean rough life, right, 336 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: I got a massage that when I was at the 337 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Rookie Symposium and she did set with my foot and 338 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: like my my turf toe on my right big toe 339 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: from Buffalo and oh four flared up and like screamed. 340 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, oh nothing, just turk toe back 341 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand four, like was like a soldier, like 342 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: back in num back in two thousand four in Buffalo. 343 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: This is when I remind you that Greg Rosenthal to 344 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: my right, has never been to a gym. He's acknowledged 345 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: to a fun back I said, lifting weights. I've been 346 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: inside has been he has two quick thoughts that Christie, 347 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: you mentioned none of these guys were Hall of famers. 348 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: In that line, that's true. Ste might have a chance 349 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: at a Ring of honor in New York. He was 350 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: almost definitely the best offensive lineman on two Super Bowl 351 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: champion teams. And then second, yeah, he's he's hardcore. He's 352 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: always known as a tough player. How tough do you 353 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: gotta be to walk into the Giants locker room as 354 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: the father of Tom Coughlin's grandchild. You're not married. I 355 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: don't want to get too deep into it, but Conflin 356 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: Steve have talked about it openly. But you know, it 357 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: wasn't It's a complex situation. It wasn't something that was 358 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: planning that they wanted. Now he's got three grandchildren, he's married, 359 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: he's in the fail. You've gotta be tough to walk 360 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: into that locker room that situation, I watch out. I 361 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: would have been like no, Ednie team Bud, Tom Coffin, 362 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin of ball people. And by the way, Christni 363 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: will be inducted included in the New York Giants Ring 364 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: of Honor, to get excited about that. And Russ Tucker 365 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: is in the A. T. L Ring of Honor, which 366 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: must be a very high honor for you. Ross, Congratulations 367 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: and thank you for coming on. So let's see, let's 368 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: see you got Let's get these plugs in because Ross 369 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: got so many things going on at Russ Tucker NFL. 370 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: You have the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, and you're on 371 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: about seventeen thousand other channels. Is that correct? I don't 372 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: worry about them. Don't worry about the other channels. The 373 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: only thing I care about these days or Twitter and 374 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: my podcast. I got a new one starting by the way, 375 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: a few podcast I'm going It's called the Fantasy Feet. 376 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm going all in on fantasy You know why I 377 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: miss having a steak in, like what's going on. I 378 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: go to these games on Sunday that I'm broadcasting, and 379 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: I really just want to make sure it doesn't go 380 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: to overtime so I can catch my flight back home. 381 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I need something where I really care about the outcome. 382 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm going all in on fantasy football this year as well. 383 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: And well, you got the right guy with you, Evan Silva, 384 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: who I worked with a long time at road O World. 385 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: He is the very best. So I'm gonna be listening 386 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: to that. I don't know anything anymore. Yeah, he's a 387 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: real sick though. He's one of those people that would 388 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: sit there on day four of the drayt. It was 389 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: one of those guys, all right, russ talkat. Thank you 390 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: very much for joining us, and we will be listening 391 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: to your podcast and we hope to hear you again 392 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: on ours my pleasure. You guys do an awesome job 393 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: with the podcast and I am all over the blog 394 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: every day every morning. You guys are like one of 395 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: my one of my two or three go twos for 396 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: all my information. So thanks for what you guys do 397 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: so I can just read your three paragraph things and 398 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: have totally knowledge if everything that just happened. Thanks take care. 399 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: That was the main reason we had him on just 400 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: now was to for that less. I'm more and more 401 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: by the minute. That's how you get to the Ring 402 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: of Honor for a t l S. You just shower 403 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: us with compliments. Yeah, endless accolades about our work both 404 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: online and on the cast would be k rich. Of course, 405 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: the Gold standards a lot of pressure on TV because 406 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: really it's kind of like being a commissioner always makes 407 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. It's like if you're the producer, 408 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: you're you're kind of supposed to make the right which, 409 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: by the way, guys, shout out to the ghost and 410 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: it's his birthday. Yeah, happy nineteen years old nineteen years young. 411 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: If only cared enough about football to listen to this podcast. 412 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Hear it? We miss you, buddy, miss you every day. Gentlemen, 413 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: we roll on. We're gonna talk about team. We're gonna 414 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: talk about teams. This was uh one of the features 415 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: daily features on NFL dot Com. It's called Instant Debate 416 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: where they throw out topics then then we all chime 417 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: in with our opinions. One last week that got us 418 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: thinking and thought, oh, we should talk about this in 419 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: the podcast. Who is the one NFL team right now 420 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: or multiple NFL teams that you can't really make sense of? Now, 421 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: this is hard for me because I immediately concides up 422 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: a team and know exactly how they'll do. I mean, 423 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: that's one of my gifts or whatever. But I'll also 424 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, I'll try to bring myself down 425 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: and try to figure out how other people would think. 426 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: So let's go around the table and we'll share one 427 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: or two perhaps different teams we can't figure out. And 428 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: h and Mark Cecil, We're gonna start with you. You 429 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: are the sizzler, all right, Thank you Dan number one 430 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: for indulging us, Gregg and I and the rest of 431 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: the population. I didn't even have to get out of 432 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: the letter A to get my team, the Atlanta Falcons. 433 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think of doing this alphabetic like, well that's 434 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: how op systematically and Atlanta a team that you know, 435 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: two years removed from being a couple of plays away 436 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: from the super Bowl. Yeah, then bang last season. You know, 437 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: I think that's too much as made of the heights 438 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: that they fail because when you take Julio Jones out 439 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: of that pass offense and they got racked with injuries. 440 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: Roddy White wasn't healthy, they don't have a great running game, 441 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: and so they were exposed entirely. But then still you 442 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: have Matt Ryan, Julio Jones is healthy. Again. There's questions 443 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: on defense, but there always have been. I I just 444 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: think that people aren't are have overlooked the Falcons because 445 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: of a what have you done for me lately? Scenario? 446 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: You know why that is though, because none of us 447 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: ever really bought into the Falcons as being one of 448 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: those top four or five teams. So it's kind of 449 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: like last year when the bottom fell out, it almost 450 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: was confirming everything we thought, not that they should be 451 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: that bad, but oh they were never really that top 452 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: two or three team, and I agree. That's why it's 453 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: such a good choice, is they could do anything and 454 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: it wouldn't really surprise me that bad. They could be 455 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: mediocre again, which would be interesting to see how that 456 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: chook out, or they could win that division again and 457 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: in that division that you know when they were dominant 458 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: for you know, in terms of regular season win total. 459 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: We now Caroline is not necessarily a team they were 460 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: last season, but they're a tough defense to deal with, 461 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: and Tampa's beefed up and the Saints look outstanding, so 462 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: that adds more complexity. Caroline is an interesting team to 463 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to go down that road if you wanted to. Some 464 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: of them might be tough to figure out. Uh, Greg, 465 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: ros All give us one. Well, I'm gonna go with 466 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: the team that has the toughest player in the NFL 467 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: to figure out. And I've said this before, that's Robert 468 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: Griffin the third and to me, the Redskins are gonna 469 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: go as he goes. In a lousy NFC East. We've 470 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: been saying this now for a couple of years and 471 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: it keeps being true. It's not a great division. I mean, 472 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: the Redskins have a shot to have a really explosive 473 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: offense and compete to win. But they still have Jim 474 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Hazlet as their defensive coordinator. It's a lot of changes 475 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: on offense. None of us are really sure if r 476 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: G three is at the level of let's say Luck 477 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson, or if he's gonna be well below that. Like, 478 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: nothing with this team would really surprise me. So I'm 479 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: probably gonna pick them to be mediocre sub mediocre, but 480 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: it wouldn't stun me if they go out there and 481 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: play really well. They have enough talent to do it. 482 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think that you're right, and the 483 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: division is what makes it wide open, and uh, I'll 484 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: get into my team. It's a bit of a tease 485 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: for that, but yeah, I think r G three is 486 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: extremely hard to figure out, Like who is this guy? 487 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be two thou two thirteen or something 488 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: in between. If he's something in between, let's say that, 489 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: let's say he doesn't get all the way back to 490 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: what he was the rookie. Would that be enough for 491 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: this team to you know, win nine or ten games, 492 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs or does he have to be 493 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: that guy? I think he has to be special because 494 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: the defense, if it does well, is gonna be a 495 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: little better than average. I don't think you can even 496 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: hope to have a top ten defense there. So I 497 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: think they can win based on Griffin and de Sean 498 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Jackson and Garson. I mean it really struck me when 499 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: I was doing the best wide receiver rankings how I 500 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: had Garson very high up and Deshaun Jackson I think 501 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: right near him. I mean that's as good as starting combo. 502 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: And you have Andre Roberts. I mean, you've got a 503 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: lot of people. There is talent, one quick thing on 504 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: them that concerns me more than maybe where r G 505 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: three is physically or what everything else. Jake Ruden, I 506 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: just I went back last night on NFL Network, they 507 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: had a Bengals game from last season. I just did 508 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: not into Jake rudin the play caller, and I would 509 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: say that Kyle Shanahan was the perfect coordinator for r 510 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: G three because he was willing to completely blow up 511 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: the machine and design an entire offense around the skills 512 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: of his players. Is Gruden gonna do that? We don't know. 513 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: He's got better players to work with, which helps a lot, 514 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: at least a quarterback. I mean all this talk, I 515 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: think is getting to Griffin too. He had some quotes today. 516 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: He someone asked him, you know what he would say to, 517 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, the first year version of Griffin, and he 518 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: gave himself a new nickname. He said, if if I 519 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: could go back and talk to kid rob Let's say, 520 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: I would tell him basically, never Rock, Kid Rob, that 521 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: that's Griffin two years ago. Kid Rob. So he's come 522 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: up with a past tense third person nickname, which I like, 523 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: that's creative. If I could go back and talk to 524 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: kid rob Let's say, I would tell him basically, never 525 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: let them steal your joy. Man, Never let anyone or 526 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: anything steal your joy or the joy of your teammates. 527 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: For this beautiful game. You don't steal my joy. I 528 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: won't steal it. Begin to figure it out. Talk to 529 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: young Kobe, Kobe, let him know how he would one 530 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: day be ridiculed for being called young Kobe. And if 531 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: I could go back in time and talk to a 532 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: young kid Rock, I would tell him to not even 533 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: attempt to become the next generations Bob Seeger, I guess 534 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: it would be a huge embarrassing. Don't abandon that day. 535 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: And once you were on a stage with a little 536 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: person rapping. You're a white dude from Detroit and now 537 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to pretend like you're a heart Land rocker. 538 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: I would go back in time to tell him to 539 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: leave that career. Left turn in the battle I see. 540 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't disagree more. Kid rock went about as far 541 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: as you can go with as little amount of talent 542 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: as possible. He maxed out and then he kept on 543 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: coming at us, and he won't leave us alone, not 544 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: to be proud of moving forward. So yes, I said 545 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: there's an NFC East team that I can't figure out, 546 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: and that is the New York Giants. And I will 547 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: also say that Greg you I think you opened up 548 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: your Redskins rant there with saying that r G three 549 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: is the hardest guy to figure out right now. I 550 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: think Eli Manning has been that guy for almost twelve 551 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: years or so now, and I don't think anything changes 552 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: if if nothing else, I think he's even harder to 553 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: figure out coming into this season after what was, you know, 554 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: easily the worst season of his career since he really, 555 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: you know it was grew up from being a kid. 556 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: And I think that you know, they have a new 557 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, which they needed. I think McAdoo was the 558 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: right right time to get Gilbride out of there. They 559 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: invested in Odell Beckham in the first round, which they 560 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: needed to do, get a weapon in there to replete 561 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: replace Nick's. You know, we're just talking about the offensive line, 562 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: which doesn't get stronger with Chris Snee out of the picture, 563 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: and the defense. I think it's gonna be better with 564 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: especially in the secondary, with the additions they made there. 565 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: So I think in a week division with a two 566 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: time Super Bowl winning quarterback coming off a terrible season, 567 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: with a roster that in mind mind has approved, and 568 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: we also learned that David Wilson uh has been cleared, 569 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: so maybe he could be an X factor on that offense. 570 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: I think that Giants I wouldn't be surprised if they 571 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: won eleven and five. I would not be surprised if 572 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: they won five and eleven. It's really about what happens 573 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: with Eli. It's the perfect team to say that about 574 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: because the two times that we've seen him win the 575 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the Eli Coughlan connection, totally out of 576 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: the blue campaigns where they weren't the dominant team going 577 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and then bang they have You know, 578 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: whenever you have a quarterback like Eli Manning, he can 579 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: completely mess things up as he did last season. They 580 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: can also go on a major role. Did they have 581 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: the defense to go out of major role? I think 582 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: it's the question because that's that's what's similar about their 583 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl teams. You know, the offense was a 584 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: little up and down. The running game wasn't really there 585 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: the second time, but they had the pass rushers. I 586 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if they have him now. That 587 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: back end of the defense though, is something to watch 588 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: they you know, I think there's a lot of pieces 589 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: there and and I think with Prince there also, he's 590 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: now become a guy. I just call him Prince at 591 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: this point, mostly because his last name is hard to 592 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: pronounce for me. Kamara, Yeah, a Mukamara. But I think 593 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's gotten better and you add those 594 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: additions with him, I think that's a potentially um one 595 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: of the better secondaries in the NFC. So the New 596 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: York Giants is my pick. We got another one. I'm 597 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna get creative it. I'm gonna throw a division. Here's 598 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: how you're gonna like make up a team, so you're 599 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: being create that would be fun. I'm trying to think 600 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: of the names of the teams in any given Sunday. 601 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: The Miami Shark, how about the a f C North 602 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: As a division, all of these teams, you could if 603 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: you kind of catch them on the right day and 604 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: you're in a certain mood and you squint real hard. 605 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: When you look at the game rewind, you can say, oh, 606 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: this team could be twelve and four. I like the 607 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: young pieces they've had and this, and then if you 608 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: look at them a different way, they've all got problems. 609 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: The Ravens, the Steelers, I think you can make a 610 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: strong case either way. The Browns look frisky, the Bengals, 611 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm not really buying there. It's a whole division. So 612 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: it's my division that I can't figure out anything, nothing 613 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: with the pride, And every year inside that division, a 614 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: couple of things happen that throw it all on its ass, 615 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, Pittsburgh's me on paper right now, 616 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: I would say Pittsburgh is the team I would I 617 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: would anchor to Cincinnati. You can say they have more talent, 618 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: but I don't buy it because of what's happening at quarterback. 619 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: I hear you, and I agree Andy Dalton, by the way, 620 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: I like you're basically when an organization says, and they 621 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: actually haven't said this because he has not signed a 622 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: new deal, we're satisfied with a totally average performer at 623 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: the most important position in sports. I hear you, by 624 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: the way on the Steelers, and I agree with you 625 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: that on paper they're looking the friskies. But wasn't it 626 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: just in February or March when we were doing the 627 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: roster resets and we're doing the predictions for the draft, 628 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: that we were like, man, this team has more holes 629 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: in it than they have in ten years. They're kind 630 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: of one of those teams that the off season has 631 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: a rhythm to it. It's like they've gotten a lot 632 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: of momentum during the off season. And even though I 633 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: do like them, there's a lot of questions. I don't 634 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: want to gamble against Big Ben the guy. I mean, 635 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: if any quarterback in that division sounds like Marcus thinking 636 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: team of a t L I am not thinking that necessarily, 637 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: but I am willing to acknowledge that they're much more 638 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: interesting than they have been in later and not to 639 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: go into some you know, my Florio indulgence. But your 640 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: point Greg about the a f C North, the Seinfeld episode, 641 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: the two phase. I was wondering where you're going with Florida. 642 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: It makes sense now that guy loves SCIENCELF references in 643 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. But the two phase episode where you 644 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: can't tell if the girls hot or not depending on 645 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: the light of the room, that's the f C North. 646 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Like that. There you go see basically a PFT right 647 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: or now get excited, folks, All right, do you come 648 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: throb with that line of that? Anal sounds good? Okay, 649 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: what do we we want to throw out any other teams? Well, 650 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: I said, I didn't get out of the A's Wow, 651 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: you're still it's still in the eights Arizona to me, 652 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: because there's a lot to like the way they finished 653 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: last season. No one wanted to deal with him. But 654 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: let's remember you have Carson Palmer at quarterback, who has 655 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: that he could do. He can throw the ball anywhere 656 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 1: in the field if he wants to. Potentially, he can 657 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: also completely self destruct at any moment, and we may not. 658 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: We may see a younger quarterback in there before the 659 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: year ends. They lost Darrell Washington for the season. I 660 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: just think that there's a lot of you know, X 661 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: factors in pieces here that we get to see how 662 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: they come together. But I love Bruce Arians. I don't 663 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be six, and I think they're going 664 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: to be the most you know, confounding nine and seven 665 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: or eight and eight team in the league. I think 666 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: I think they could be. I think that's a tough division. 667 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: I thought they overperformed a little bit last year. I 668 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: think they're gonna come down. It's a tough division to 669 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: go above. I'm declaring Mark the winner. I think the Cardinals. 670 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: That's the best answer, and that's sounds sounds good, and 671 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: yet there's a little part of me that thinks, like 672 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: would be that crazy if the Cardinals made the super Bowl. 673 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Congratulations Mark you. When the boss declares you the winner, 674 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: you just seal it up and go home. But you 675 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:50,719 Speaker 1: can't go Who who is the artist? The recording artists there? 676 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: I should know this. It's definitely Digit dj COK and 677 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: he just talks and he's a DJ. So a bunch 678 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: of other people on track by Can't recalled. Lil Wayne 679 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: was probably on there. Probably it's such a great song 680 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: because there's no hidden levels to it. It's just straight 681 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: up zero. I am the best, and you know you 682 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: cannot defeat me because all I do is win, win, win. 683 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: And it's fitting that you chose that as your basketball song. 684 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: You're a man of great confidence. We wouldn't know weren't 685 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: there to see it. Next time, you guys are both invited, 686 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: but you know when you come on the hard court, 687 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: you gotta be ready to perform. Listen, pick up the 688 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: phone all right before before we do that, let's pick 689 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: up the phone. Nailed it and get Chris Westling on 690 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: the line, who, of course, is the man that we miss. 691 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: Another guy you didn't call us see if he wanted 692 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: to play basketball? Yes, I said, Chris. Do you want 693 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: to get on your private jet from Cincinnati and join us? 694 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: Another guy who sees in totally unpredictable upcoming. Yeah, West 695 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: is a year by year of town. We keep on 696 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: signing West to one year dollar deals period or he's 697 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: definitely the r G three of the around the league group. 698 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: Can we get the man on the phone, Mr Chris Westling? 699 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: Are you there? I am? There is a right not 700 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: a clean land line? Yeah? That's is that a landline? 701 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Your an buddy? No, it's a cell. Well, how how Cincinnati. 702 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: Let's start right there. Let's just get into the personal 703 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: aspect of things. Oh, I've been having a great time. 704 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: I've been out every single night, was saying, dear friends, 705 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: just enjoying it. Just got went down to the softball 706 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: park with my old buddies from a team I played 707 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: on for fifteen years last night. Had a great time. 708 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: Chris Westling actually in Tybee. His number is retired in 709 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: a bar for softball. So this must be some what 710 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: a hall of fame career you've had that may not 711 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: be softball. Your accent seems to be accentuated when you're 712 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: on the road. That's one thing I've noticed is it 713 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: comes out even even more strong, very observant, Bud you 714 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: I think that's correct. All right, So we're gonna let's 715 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: just catch up with a couple of things. Number One, 716 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the career arc of Kid Rock. Uh, 717 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: he was always terrible. He's probably more terrible now than ever. Yes, 718 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: see no wrestling now to see we've missed us. I 719 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: miss your voice, by the way, I miss you so much. 720 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm wearing your little sweatshirt here just because you're a 721 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: Roman calls it a pea coat. Well, I was calling 722 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: it a headycoat, and I learned that that is a 723 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: dress from like the mid century. So it's a blue 724 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: fleece jacket that was described as a purple sweatshirt on 725 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't smell like West Yeah, a little bit, alright, 726 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: So Chris Wesley like softball, and Jack Daniels that about 727 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: covers it. We wanted to We just wanted to check 728 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: in with you on a couple of football topics because 729 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: it's always good to have the man's insight. And I 730 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: just want to start since you're in Cincinnati and you're 731 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: doing a lot of time I assume at watering was 732 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: with your seventeen thousand brothers. Did you happen to be 733 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: in Nashville in the past week at any point I 734 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: could not punch Zach Mettenburger. Very good, very good. Yeah, 735 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: that's apparently like you're a man. You've been around fights 736 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: and bars. The dialogue, which is great, Zach Mettenberger. Of course, 737 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: the Titans draft pick goes sucker punch steady, as Sessler 738 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: puts it in his A t L Post. A Nashville 739 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: saloon on Saturday, a saloon called Losers by the way, 740 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: which is I can't I can't decide that's the greatest 741 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: name or the worst name ever. It's I'm going to Losers. Hey, mom, 742 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: I just opened a new business called Losers. I don't 743 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: know how many losers there are there. Um yeah, so yeah, 744 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: this this basically situation. I'll read the line. This is 745 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: the tavern owner Steve Ford. Here's the truth. The guy 746 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 1: said something about roll tiede to Zack, and Zack turned 747 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: around and said good luck with that, and the guy's 748 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: buddy then sucker punch Zack because that sounds like a 749 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: familiar life experience at always. I believe I've heard this 750 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: race roll tied at least a thousand times in my life, 751 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: and probably half of those times. To fight ensued some 752 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: time afterwards, and the guy grow up college football fans. 753 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, the guy was sucker punched. Bettenberger punched him, 754 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: and then he ran out of the cowardice high level cowardice. Wait, West, 755 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: when when I called to you to see if you'd 756 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 1: be interested in um joining us here at NFL dot com, 757 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: weren't you at the time considering moving to Nashville? Am 758 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: I remembering that correctly? No? I was not considering what 759 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: that was your first choice before I was. I think Wilmington, 760 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina. He was going to move somewhere. Come on, Wilmington, 761 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 1: the site of Dawson's Creek, Michael Michael Jordan's hometown. Very good. 762 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,479 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, By the way, we wanted to throw 763 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: some NFL news by you, David Wilson, your boy famously, 764 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna say Chris Westling's boy has been fully cleared 765 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: by the New York Giants, as we mentioned earlier. And 766 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,959 Speaker 1: I just want to because we wanted to touch space 767 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: with West and this because I want to mention something 768 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: that line West used, and am making the leap story 769 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: from last year just to give you an idea of 770 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: how excited West is about David Wilson at one point. 771 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he still feels that way. And 772 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: this is the line that started West's a t l 773 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: making the lead posts from last summer. Outside of Adrian 774 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: Peterson and C. J. Spiller, there might not be a 775 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: more dynamic athlete at running back in the NFL. Now 776 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: he's back on the field. Should we be excited about 777 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: David Wilson, Chris Wesley? I think we, yeah, we can 778 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: be excited. I think he's a much better talent than 779 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: Richard Jennings, but the Giants believe that Jennings is more 780 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: suited to the lead back role because his body can 781 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: handle it and Wilson's probably can't. But I think, um, 782 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: he has the ability to get hot, and I think 783 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: we'll see about tang Terry's the game and some kickoff return. 784 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: He got everyone excited with that preseason long touchdown against 785 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: the Jets, remember that yards and then everyone was like 786 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: he went from people were thinking of him as a 787 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: breakout two people started taking him in the third round, 788 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: third round. Funny. So I'm pretty certain Alison Bree marketised 789 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 1: fantasy team last season spent a third round pick. Well 790 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: we did. We did. Then an exploded eight place, un 791 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: obomber style. Good Wesley, when you made the comments about 792 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: Wilson being, you know, an athlete up there with Spiller 793 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: and Peterson. This was before Willis mcgahey got back in 794 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: the league. Did you would you enbridge those comments after 795 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: he had returned. But I would say maybe christ Michael 796 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: is up there. Interesting now they're making the leap candidate west. 797 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: Before before we let you go, we talked, we talked 798 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: about the team in the NFL that was the hardest 799 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: to figure this season, and I chose the Redskins. I 800 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: throughout the entire and a f C North. What is 801 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: the team to you that is the most unpredictable this year? 802 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: I think you named it with the Redskins. We talked 803 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: about this a couple of weeks ago. They could they 804 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: could be the biggest surprise for the biggest disappointment of 805 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. I found it interesting that Greg chose to 806 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: only bring up his choices to look. I was looking 807 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: for a different answer, taking up who knows what would 808 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: have happened if you would have heard Mark's choice, which 809 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: was I don't remember it anymore. No, I went down 810 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: the road of Atlanta and Arizona, and I went with 811 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. But you believe the Redskins. I 812 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: think the Falcons are a good one too. I see 813 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: them bouncing back, but I don't know if their defense 814 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: is good enough to win more than ten games. Let's 815 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: circle back one more time and then I'll give you mine, 816 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Did you like that one? To us? 817 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: The Giants don't exist in my world. US hates the Giants. 818 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't going to get us. No one 819 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: else does not exist. I was on I AM, which 820 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: is uh the messaging technical Uh people, I don't know. 821 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: I know this listening to this. So Wesley and I 822 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: are on it, you know, before the sun rises, and 823 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: he is stationed at someone's house where the Today Shows 824 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: on the background. You think I don't like the view. 825 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: This guy just went off on the Today Show for 826 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: about straight minutes. I loved it. My mother in law 827 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,479 Speaker 1: is a a big avid fan of the fourth hour 828 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: of the show, in which Hoda and Kathy guzzle wine 829 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: at ten am in midtown Manhattan and talk about Brad 830 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: Pitt's beard, which you find out was a Saturday in 831 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: the Left skit that was accurate. That's what scared me. 832 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: I know this is old news, like a decade old, 833 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: but Al Roker looked laughable. He looks like an eleven 834 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: year old. That's weird. It's like, uh, the show has 835 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: gone off the rails like a Kathy Les. This is 836 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: the only thing I'm gonna say. I want you to 837 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: stay sentient, stay alive, and get back to California so 838 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 1: you can again grace us with your presence. Got will 839 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm planning on doing that. I'll be back next 840 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: Sunday night. I guess we'll see you next week. West. 841 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: I'd like I'd like to dispel the rumors that, uh, 842 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: there's a contract to see going on and that's why 843 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna got some tweets on that done some 844 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: heat online. We're looking for a new writer. It's not 845 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: to replace West. Let's just make that very clear. West 846 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: is still gainfully employed by NFL Media properties. Thanks West 847 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: for clearing that up. All right, Boys like West seeing 848 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: those tweets and maybe even for a split second wondering 849 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: if there's something going on. All right, So we will 850 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday with another episode of the Around 851 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: the League podcast. So get excited. We're going to uh 852 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: have any guess we have NFC training camp preview so popular. 853 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: People were asking when it was coming this week. It's 854 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: coming Wednesday. Who asked who? It was? Just one guy? 855 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 1: But people, it's the guy. He's on TV too. He's 856 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,959 Speaker 1: like until you should believe him. Yeah, So we're gonna 857 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: talk about that on Wednesday and all the other NFL 858 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: news and other stuff. It's gonna be a fun show. 859 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 1: So signing off this is Dan hanss for the mailman. No, 860 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: not the mailman. He was here yeah, okay for the 861 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: mailman and the Sizzler and the boss of course take date. 862 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: All I do is we we we no matter what 863 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: until Wednesday.