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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Everybody. Welcome to your Wednesday edition the

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<v Speaker 1>Texans All Access. I am your host, John Harris, football

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<v Speaker 1>and a sideline reporter, and we got a great show

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<v Speaker 1>for you this evening. Boy, we got a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Cherry Hughes on the show today. Mark's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>join me in just a little bit for a number

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Today. We've got Bob Poppa play by play

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<v Speaker 1>voice of the New York Giants on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got a little funky on in the Lab today.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to stick around for that one because that

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<v Speaker 1>got all kinds of funky and it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>typical in the Lab podcast you're gonna absolutely love. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have that later in the show with myself and Drew Doherty.

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<v Speaker 1>But we kick off each and every Wednesday show with

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<v Speaker 1>the visit from the general manager of your Houston Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cassario. Let's go joining us now the Hounday Texans

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Studio. It's Texans general manager Nick Casserio. Nick, great

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<v Speaker 1>to see you. How was the mini buy the little break?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you took any time off, how'd

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<v Speaker 1>you spend it? Yes, it was good. It's fairly productive.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a chance to see some football on Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>on a scouting front, and then Sunday had an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to spend the day with my daughter, so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the best of both worlds. So worked out well.

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<v Speaker 1>So as you're spending your day with your daughter and

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<v Speaker 1>just asking are you able to completely shut off football?

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<v Speaker 1>It is I'm spending with my daughter, whatever's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in football, it just can't even focus on red zone

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<v Speaker 1>on in the background. Nick, No, it's not. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>was able to kind of finish up some things on

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants on Sunday, So it takes some time in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, get some time with the family, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon while they're doing some things, try to work

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<v Speaker 1>on the Giants and just try to stay on par

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<v Speaker 1>with on track with the preparation. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>try to do. But this is a good question, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you keep up with the league? Now? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you digest information that transpired over the course of a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday after do? Yeah, you're trying not to worry necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>about what happened one particular weekend or one particular game.

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<v Speaker 1>A coincidentally, the Giants are on their by so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't as if we had the opportunity to watch them.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are other teams that we're playing. We're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of working our way here through kind of the NFC's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, Philly last Thursday, Giants this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington next weekend. So I'd say the biggest thing is

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<v Speaker 1>just familiarizing yourself with opponents that you don't see other

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<v Speaker 1>than maybe you know, once every four years. So from

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<v Speaker 1>that standpoint, you try to work on the Giants, finished

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<v Speaker 1>up the Giants and then starting to turn the page

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and start to prepare a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for Washington this week so we can kind of stay

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<v Speaker 1>on track. Nicolas seg one final look back at the

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<v Speaker 1>game against the Eagles, because there were some bright moments

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<v Speaker 1>in that particular game. You get ten rookies ended up

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<v Speaker 1>playing a game, and a lot of them did some

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<v Speaker 1>really good things. Where are your overall thoughts looking back

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<v Speaker 1>to Thursday against the Eagles. Yeah, it's today. Games kind

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<v Speaker 1>of emblematic a kind of some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>happened this season, did some good things, kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves into position in the end, just you know, on't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's say, in the end situationally, they had the advantage

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<v Speaker 1>third down, redder and the turnovers. So those are the

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<v Speaker 1>areas and the plays that whoever has the advantage, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance at the end of the game they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be on top of the scoreboard. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're a good team. You know, we did some decent

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<v Speaker 1>things offense of Lee random ball fairly well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>DP had a good night, you know, defensively, he did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job. Actually made the quarterback a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable at times, so you know, run game kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gave up, you know, a little bit some yards there.

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<v Speaker 1>So but in the end of situational things to turn

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<v Speaker 1>over the third down in the radio or they had

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<v Speaker 1>the advantage and as a result, they had the advantage

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<v Speaker 1>on the scoreboard. We had Tavira Thomas on The Players

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<v Speaker 1>Show and asked him about the rookie class that he said,

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<v Speaker 1>in so many words, they don't seem like rookies. They

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they're really taking to things pretty well. How

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<v Speaker 1>would you assess the class midway through the season. May Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying not to take a snapshot, but I'd say overall,

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<v Speaker 1>making progress a little bit up and down. It points

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain things that each player can do individually

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<v Speaker 1>to improve, whether it's their technique, whether it's a skill,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's their preparation, whatever that is. So from that perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say the overall approach and attitude has been good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really more about just trying to improve some things

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<v Speaker 1>and clean up some things so you don't have sort

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<v Speaker 1>of let's say, repeat airs or repeat mistakes. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that is is growing pains and you're gonna have.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way you learn is by doing it and

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<v Speaker 1>then doing it on film, and then seeing it and

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<v Speaker 1>correcting it and trying to make sure that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen again moving forward. So it's all part of the process.

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<v Speaker 1>So i'd say overall, the attitude and the effort has

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty consistent from the beginning. I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>stole my rookie question. Sorry, it's my question. Okay rookie questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have more. I'm sure you have more rookie questions. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking that question. I'm not gonna ask I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask you about the Giants Nick two part or A.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's dive into the Giants to see what we have

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<v Speaker 1>to say. About them, and b did you squats this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>So you can match sea Quon Barkley's legs when you

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<v Speaker 1>see him on us on the My squat day is Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd probably do a little bit less than say Quon,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd say overall, I'd say Joe and Brian have

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<v Speaker 1>done a great job of sort of implementing their program

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<v Speaker 1>from the beginning. I think they're familiarity with each other

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<v Speaker 1>and their time in Buffalo certainly is sort of ease

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<v Speaker 1>that transition. I'd say start at the top. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian's a really i would say one of the better

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<v Speaker 1>coaches in the league, very smart, has a background on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side of the ball that's kind of always

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<v Speaker 1>trained and then kind of transition to off, has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of experience, has been a number of different system

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say some of the things that he believes in

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<v Speaker 1>their representative of kind of how they play. You see

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<v Speaker 1>that in their team, and he and Joe have a

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<v Speaker 1>really good working relationship. They done a good job. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Brian is the head coach, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>know hired Mike Kafka, who Mike play in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's very smart, has a lot of experience, very good coach,

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<v Speaker 1>been in a good system in Kansas City, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Wink has been as good a defensive coordinators who's been

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<v Speaker 1>here for a number of years, had an opportunity, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>face their teams in Baltimore and say they play with

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<v Speaker 1>a very aggressive mindset, of very aggressive mentality, probably more

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<v Speaker 1>than any other in the league. And what they've done,

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<v Speaker 1>they've actually combined, They've gotten good production from their rookies

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to some of the veteran players. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>starting defensively, they're really good in a running game, They're

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<v Speaker 1>really good in the red area. And because kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seems like each week we talk about the interior of

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line and Lawrence Dexter, Lawrence has played as

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<v Speaker 1>good as any defensive line in the league. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>put them up there with Simmons Hargrave, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>players that we've seen here. I mean, he's big, he's strong,

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<v Speaker 1>he's long, he's very disruptive. He's really had his best

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<v Speaker 1>year this season. So they've done a good job of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of maximizing him. I'd say Leonard's a good player.

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of been bothered a little bit by the

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury, so but he's still a disruptive player. Kate

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<v Speaker 1>has done a good job for them since he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in Benison or the line of miss a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit in a preseason, missed the first couple of games,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's done a good job on the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the defense. And they've gotten some play out of some

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<v Speaker 1>veterans who maybe weren't with the team. But if they've

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<v Speaker 1>brought in Jalen Smith has done a nice job for

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<v Speaker 1>them on the inside part. And then McFadden has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started to rotate in an inside linebacker in the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Fabian Moreau has done a good, really good

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<v Speaker 1>job for him. So they brought him in kind of

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<v Speaker 1>at a in a training camp, put him on a

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad, and he's kind of emerging their best corner.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson's having a good year. They've kind of rotated some

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<v Speaker 1>players inside the formation there a little bit. McKinney's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be out obviously with the situation that took place

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<v Speaker 1>here yesterday. He'll be out for four games, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>done a good job. And then Julian Love his role

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of increased relative to last season. Very versatile, smart,

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<v Speaker 1>instinctive player. So defensively they've done a good job. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say situationally, Um, they're at the top. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, actually they were like we're tied with the

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<v Speaker 1>tied for ninth in the league in turnover margin. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've forced i want to say, nine fumbles, which

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<v Speaker 1>puts them at the top of the league. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have as many interceptions. Um. Then offensively that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>played with their strength. So they've taken some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that Daniel does really well, which is run um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's made good decisions, he's mitigated sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>some of the bad plays. He doesn't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interceptions. Sae Quon's a very skilled, versatile player, does

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things well. I think he has combined

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<v Speaker 1>over a thousand yards between rushing and receiving. So everything

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<v Speaker 1>kind of starts with those two players. And and Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas has played really really well for them at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Their offensive line as a whole, I would say has

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<v Speaker 1>played pretty good for them. Um. Evan is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been hurt here Neil past you know, three to

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<v Speaker 1>four games. But Feliciano is a player that you know

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<v Speaker 1>has experience with day Ball and Buffalo with Joe, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's done a really good job sot up find the

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<v Speaker 1>interior of the of the offensive line. They've gotten really

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<v Speaker 1>good play at a bellinger as well at tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we got hurt against Jacksonville kind of poked

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<v Speaker 1>desire or did whatever he did. And then they've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of incorporated one Dale Robinson a little bit. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of young, old, kind of veteran new and

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<v Speaker 1>then they've really in the end been able to execute

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. They're six and one and one

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<v Speaker 1>score games, and a number of those games they've trailed

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, So I'd say they've handled a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the situational elements as a team. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very tough minded team. They have a certain play style,

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<v Speaker 1>certain way they want to play, so we have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to match how they're going to play. Is

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones the latest good example of Hey, you never

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<v Speaker 1>know how it's going to work out for a player

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of a few years. It might take

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<v Speaker 1>a few seasons for the light to really go on

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation too, with new staff and new new elements. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's happened in the past really doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>as much relevance. I think what they've done is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looked at Daniel and said, oh, what are the

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<v Speaker 1>things that he does well, try to accentuate his strengths,

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<v Speaker 1>which he's just very deceptively athletic. He's faster than you

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<v Speaker 1>think he is, He's stronger than you think he is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of quarterback design runs, the zone reads,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you combine that with Barkley and he's made

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<v Speaker 1>good decisions so he goes to the right spot with

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and I'd say that's a credit to the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive staff or how they've handled it, from Brian to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike kind of how they've put the game plan together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Daniel is a very smart kid, and

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<v Speaker 1>he understands how they need to play, how they want

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<v Speaker 1>him to play, and he's played smart, a good situational

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<v Speaker 1>football and he's been a factor with his legs. And

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<v Speaker 1>then se Quon again has probably been as big of

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<v Speaker 1>an impact under offense as anything. So tackling will be

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<v Speaker 1>at a premium as it's been, you know, for most

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<v Speaker 1>of these games. Nick, since he's been back from missing preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>came on Thibadeau from the time he saw him in

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<v Speaker 1>college till now, but you know, years span, what have

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<v Speaker 1>you seen in him and what kind of problems does

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<v Speaker 1>he present on the edge. Yeah, I'd say his effort

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<v Speaker 1>in his overall playing style is very good. He's he's

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<v Speaker 1>very tough. He runs really well. I mean the play

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<v Speaker 1>that he had against ETN chasing him forty five fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards down the field. He's talking about a guy six

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<v Speaker 1>four two fifty five two sixty. That's Chase the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>back for three or whatever et N runs down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's played well. He's kind of transitioned to playing

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<v Speaker 1>more exclusively from a two point stance because they're really

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<v Speaker 1>more of a thirty front team, more two outside linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>two end the line of scrimmage players. So he's got

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<v Speaker 1>good lengths, he's got good playing strength, he's got good toughness,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's transitioned well to the Winks scheme and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how they're trying to play. So Kavon was a

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<v Speaker 1>good player at Oregon. He's been a productive player to

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<v Speaker 1>this point. So you know, it's no surprise that he's played.

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<v Speaker 1>He's played well. Nick, back to your young players, the

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<v Speaker 1>record isn't what you wanted to be at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>how does that affect them? How important is it to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a positive atmosphere, positive culture going around them as

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to play through the season. Yeah, really, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to take it one week at a time. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what his league is about. So you try to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the week and what do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that week in order to prepare in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to play the next opponent. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>just understanding the week to week nature of it and

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<v Speaker 1>how each week, whatever happened last week in the end

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have necessarily relevance. Understanding what happened, understand the why

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, and just try to make some progress understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to go through some ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we've played eight games, we have another nine remaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you tack on the three preseason games. So these

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<v Speaker 1>players have played eleven games, so they already played a

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<v Speaker 1>full college season and we don't even have we have

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<v Speaker 1>half the season remaining. So I would say a certain

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<v Speaker 1>level of stick tuitiveness, certain level of discipline to stay

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<v Speaker 1>on your routine and just stay committed to what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to do in a week to week basis, and

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<v Speaker 1>really just understand the opponent who you're playing, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very personnel driven league, so understanding Juan Dale Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>versus Chris Slayton versus you know Whoever, the different receivers are,

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<v Speaker 1>the different offensive lineman that you're going to face, What

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<v Speaker 1>are their strengths, what are their weaknesses? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>exploit those? Because in the end, that's what it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to come down to, and you say, better you understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what you have to focus on and not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily get caught up and what's the record? What are

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<v Speaker 1>the standings? Like, we can't control that. We can control

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<v Speaker 1>what we can control, which is our performance, is how

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<v Speaker 1>we prepare, and the record is what the record is.

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<v Speaker 1>But ultimately you have to focus on that week and

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of going through your process and get ready

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<v Speaker 1>to play on Sunday against a good Giant's team. Nick

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<v Speaker 1>happened to see this article and I didn't read it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw the headline, and I thought it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good question to ask you just your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>on somebody had written about the trade deadline being later

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<v Speaker 1>in the year, like week eleven, week twelve, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, we've played eight games and the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>was last week and we still have nine games left

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<v Speaker 1>to go, and most teams have nine games left to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Would have behoove the NFL to move the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. Would you like to see a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later or is that just like a case

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<v Speaker 1>by case basis, like year to year, like, oh, some

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<v Speaker 1>years I'd won earlier, some years I'd want it later. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the NFL has done a good job of

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<v Speaker 1>looking at some different policies or different you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>that we can do maybe a little bit differently, or

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<v Speaker 1>their timing element involved, So if there's any merit to

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, So I think whatever it is, you're prepared for.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a week later, then you're prepared for a

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<v Speaker 1>week later. It doesn't necessarily change anything materially. Each team

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<v Speaker 1>has to look at their team, look at their composition.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the thing that was unique this year, there was

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<v Speaker 1>more activity this year than it wasn't any other point.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd say that doesn't necessarily mean anything, or is

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<v Speaker 1>that going to be a trend moving forward. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trades, even you know, going to the draft and

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<v Speaker 1>even during the offseason, they're all player driven, so you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily know how it's gonna go. You could think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna trade or want to trade or do something,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the end, if it doesn't materialize, then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's no trade, and then you move on. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think the league will look at it. If it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, you know, moving it, then they'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't, then we'll kind of keep it where

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But you know, in the end, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to be prepared, just try to make

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<v Speaker 1>good decisions for your team with your roster or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is. A couple of other notes from the Philadelphia game.

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<v Speaker 1>You're coming off the loss to Tennessee, tough loss, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like the guys really rallied together, particularly early,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fight a way to move the football. They

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<v Speaker 1>did tied at the half fourteen fourteen. You hit Katranto's

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<v Speaker 1>first catch and Chris Wore's another touchdown pass. What about

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<v Speaker 1>the way they came together in the first half overall, Nick, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the players in the staff did a really good job

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<v Speaker 1>at getting ready to play. So anytime you have that

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<v Speaker 1>short turnaround, a quick turnarounds, it's taxing, it's mentally and

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<v Speaker 1>physically taxing. But players had a good attitude, the coaches

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<v Speaker 1>make sure the players that were prepared. We were able

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<v Speaker 1>to get off to a good start. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>certain energy that was involved playing Thursday night. You're playing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the best team in the league on prime time,

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<v Speaker 1>so everybody knows that you know, you're playing, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>only game in towns or to speak, other than the Astros.

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<v Speaker 1>But so they came out with good energy. Are As

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<v Speaker 1>a team, we came out with good energy. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just manibal to sustain it completely until the end. But overall,

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<v Speaker 1>the players and the coach did a really good job

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<v Speaker 1>and get ready to play, and we're able to see

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<v Speaker 1>some things early early in the game. Nick, as we

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<v Speaker 1>get near closer to the end of the college football season,

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<v Speaker 1>how does it kind of how does it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>change for your college scouts and what's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>program from from here until we get to the Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl in those all star games at the end. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good question. We're kind of winding down here.

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<v Speaker 1>You really have a kind of a handful of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>left in college football. I mean, realistically, kind of Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>weekend is sort of the end. You'll have another game

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<v Speaker 1>the following week, and then you have the conference championships

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're really into bowl season. So our staff's

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<v Speaker 1>done a really good job a lot of scouts. A

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, it is kind of going through my

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<v Speaker 1>notes from yesterday, some of the reports that have come in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of second time through, third time through. You're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of seeing players, seeing any anything that's changed, any upgrades,

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<v Speaker 1>any downgrade. So I'd say we've you've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players, we have a lot of information on those players.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's starting to fine tune that and in December

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<v Speaker 1>will kind of have the first initial run through, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>identify some need not necessarily grades, but some needs, or

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<v Speaker 1>here are some of the things that you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to see if we can find more information

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<v Speaker 1>out about over the next however many months and weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then once the kind of the season is over,

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll have an idea of who's gonna attend East West,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to attend the Senior Bowl, and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>start to prepare for that. And then you have the

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<v Speaker 1>under classmen, which they'll make a declaration by the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of January relative to their eligibility. So we're winding down.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still a lot of information that's available. You maybe

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<v Speaker 1>have a player didn't play earlier in the year that's

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<v Speaker 1>back on the fields. You can kind of see how

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<v Speaker 1>he's played. Vice versa. You had some guys who have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been hurt all year and it might be

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<v Speaker 1>done for the rest of the years. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all the information that we have. All right, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of transition to the next evaluation stage. Does it translate?

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to ask this in a variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys who come up big in big games on the

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<v Speaker 1>college level, does that translate sometime? And how do you

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<v Speaker 1>rate that they got a check mark because they're big

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<v Speaker 1>time players and big time situations. No, it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>question mark. Let's say you're looking at and in college

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<v Speaker 1>at times, there's in a lot of a situational football,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, just because the way that it's played. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>their production relative to the opponent. So when you see

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<v Speaker 1>them against I know we kind of joke about the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>but each week you're seeing them play against the best players.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at and even you know, back

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<v Speaker 1>to Tennessee's defense, they have I don't know five or

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<v Speaker 1>six guys that played in the SEC you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a number of guys that played in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's the best competition. Doesn't mean that there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of other great programs out there, which

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<v Speaker 1>there is. But how the player performs maybe against the

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<v Speaker 1>best competition and critical situation doesn't necessarily mean that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to translate over not necessarily, but it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>to your point. We can grade it accordingly. Okay, how

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<v Speaker 1>they played against this team the game great against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>against this team in this game? Was this all right?

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<v Speaker 1>How they played against maybe a player on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, how they fared against them, Because

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately that's a representative of what they're going to see

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<v Speaker 1>on a week to week basis. So it's all part

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<v Speaker 1>of the evaluation. You don't i'd say minimize or put

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<v Speaker 1>more importance on it. It's certainly a part of the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you have a question, you're ultimately going

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and say, all right, let's see how

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<v Speaker 1>they played against the best people and the best players,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do they perform. And then if you see

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<v Speaker 1>that over a course of time they have a track

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<v Speaker 1>record or performance, Okay, that's a good telltale sign of

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<v Speaker 1>all right, The expectation is that guy's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to come in and perform at a certain level

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<v Speaker 1>if he's give any opportunities. Nick, what as it pertains

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<v Speaker 1>to underclassmen, you said something to me that that's always

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<v Speaker 1>been interesting. They have until middle January to make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it important to have sort of an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what that player is considering so that you can see

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<v Speaker 1>him on campus, maybe ask questions and do some of

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<v Speaker 1>those things. You can always do it after the fact,

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<v Speaker 1>but is it important to track that beforehand, or do

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<v Speaker 1>you just say, hey, look, underclassmen, we kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>our eye on but you know, really we just well,

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<v Speaker 1>January fifteenth or whatever the day is, we'll just find

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<v Speaker 1>out then and we'll go from there. Now, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. I mean, you do your legwork ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and i'd say what you find as you step on campus.

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<v Speaker 1>Some programs and some people they're more inclined to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about certain players with the understanding, Okay, there's a good

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<v Speaker 1>chance his player is probably gonna make himself eligible at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year. So you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>respectful of the colleges. You don't want to assume anything,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you don't want to do anything because

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship we have a lot of schools between the

0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.879
<v Speaker 1>NFL and the NCAA, we have a good relationship. So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do anything, and that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, affects that relationship, So you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>smart about how you approach it. We can evaluate as

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<v Speaker 1>many players as we want, you know, because we watch

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<v Speaker 1>him play. And then once you get on campus, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get into situation where the liaison sits with a

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<v Speaker 1>group and he might say, hey, you know what, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chances player is probably going to declare, and

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<v Speaker 1>they might be more inclined you find some schools or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more apt to talk about them other it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of more taboo. So whatever it is, okay, We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to make it up. We'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>do our job, do our due diligence, be prepared, and

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<v Speaker 1>whichever way it goes right. If he decides to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to school, no problem, then we have our evaluation

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<v Speaker 1>from the twenty two season, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>build on a twenty three season. If he makes a

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<v Speaker 1>decision that he wants to declare, then we've done the

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<v Speaker 1>work all right, and then the evaluation is done from

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<v Speaker 1>a playing standpoint. Now we have to look into and

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<v Speaker 1>drill down some of the things more on a personal level,

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<v Speaker 1>which you really don't have the opportunity to do until

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<v Speaker 1>call it February in March. Well more for you? Is

0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.560
<v Speaker 1>there extra juice? And going to New York you see

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<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan skyline right there and nowhere in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's right there. It does it give you a

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<v Speaker 1>little extra in the game. Yeah, it's a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to play at Life Stadium. I mean, it's funny too

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<v Speaker 1>many stadiums where you have two teams that's their home stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>so they share at the Jets and a Giant, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll make everything blue and white. They'll move away from

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<v Speaker 1>the green and you know whatever it colors the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>are were in these days. I mean, it's hard to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>So's good opportunity playing outdoors, which will be something we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done here, you know since Jacksonville. But a different environment,

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<v Speaker 1>so the elements don't look like they'll be that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a factor. Going to the East Coast, you know

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, losing an hour or kind of

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<v Speaker 1>moving ahead an hour or whatever that is. So playing

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<v Speaker 1>day one o'clock. It'll be a nice fall day and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully go out there and play good football against a

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<v Speaker 1>good team. Nick, thanks a lot, good luck. Thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still a little ticked off Mark stole by rookie

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<v Speaker 1>slash draft question from Nick. That's my role, that's my role.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get it. It It was a good question, as

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<v Speaker 1>always in great stuff there from Nick Cassari speaking to Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna stick with me next. We have not opined

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<v Speaker 1>I think together on the Jeff Saturday as in ram

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<v Speaker 1>head coach in Indianapolis situation. We'll do that next right

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<v Speaker 1>here in Texans All Access. Welcome back this Wednesday edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Texans All accesses. We're getting ready to take on

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<v Speaker 1>the g Men, the New York Giants in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course is the fallacy. You play in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but you play in New Jersey. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm John Harris alongside Mark Vandermer. Mark. We I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think have had a ton of opportunity to discuss this

0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing that's going on with Indianapolis. A few days

0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 1>after the fact Indianapolis fire. Frank Rich, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the Frank right side of things, Yeah, but

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:08.400
<v Speaker 1>the Jeff's Saturday side of things as the new interim

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<v Speaker 1>head coach for the Indiapolis Colts. I know we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this part because ed press conference. I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time that we were doing Coach Lovey

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<v Speaker 1>Show on Monday Night. Your gut reaction to Saturday becoming

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<v Speaker 1>the interim head coach Indiapolis, well, my gut and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we did discuss some of this. My gut reaction

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<v Speaker 1>is what that's my gut reaction because he's in broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure when he got the phone call he admitted

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<v Speaker 1>he was totally shocked, surprise, whatever, And maybe he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to get into NFL coaching. But Johnny, I have this

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<v Speaker 1>thought about people who want to get into coaching that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they should I don't know, coach, maybe you should

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<v Speaker 1>explore the possibility of taking a job in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>or college or some high level of coaching if you

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<v Speaker 1>have the credentials, especially because Jeff's Saturday has the credentials

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<v Speaker 1>to be assistant old line coach someplace, or offensive assistant

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<v Speaker 1>someplace who wouldn't want Saturday in their building. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing about Josh McCown, right, Josh McCown

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<v Speaker 1>certainly has the credentials to be assistant quarterbacks coach somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>or quarterbacks coach or offensive assistant or something like that

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<v Speaker 1>where he could get experienced. Both guys get experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when there is an opportunity for advancement. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about a head coach advancement, but advancement nonetheless, you

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<v Speaker 1>can jump up. Now. It is a slap of the

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<v Speaker 1>phase to everybody who spends time in coaching, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>that building, because there are numerous people on that staff

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<v Speaker 1>who could have taken over, and we mentioned one of them,

0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Wayne. Right there, Reggie Wayne is right in front

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.880
<v Speaker 1>of you, Bubba Ventrone. Look, Gus Bradley has done it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying he's the best option necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's done it. He's actually done it. You could ride

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<v Speaker 1>out the season now. I salute or at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time also for thinking out of the box. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is the kind of out of the box that has Look,

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<v Speaker 1>how much more of a disaster could it be? I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say it has disaster written all over it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the out of the box that might not be

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<v Speaker 1>the good kind of out of the box, right, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>try it in the off season or something really wild

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and different in the off season as opposed to now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the things. And it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>this happens with It happens with a lot of players.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I think that guy would be really great in

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<v Speaker 1>the media. Oh I think that guy would be a

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<v Speaker 1>really great coach. Oh yeah, Oh, I think that guy

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<v Speaker 1>could rise up the ranks and be a great scout

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe a GM down the road. We say that

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<v Speaker 1>about about players a lot of times because they exhibit

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.639
<v Speaker 1>those qualities, Like, you know, there's a guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>know the locker room that is loquacious and very outgoing

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<v Speaker 1>and really answers questions thoughtfully and honestly. But he could

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<v Speaker 1>be really he could be really good in the media.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have seen a lot of athletes get into

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<v Speaker 1>the media. We've seen a lot of them getting into coaching,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them getting scouting, etc. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>also a large number of them that get in it

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<v Speaker 1>and go WHOA, I thought all I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>was just talk or I thought coach easy. I just

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<v Speaker 1>dropped the excess and os and give them the plays

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>in the way you go, you know, scouting, I just

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<v Speaker 1>pick a player here and player there, and they don't realize, man,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>there is some laborious work that goes into this. It

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 1>is laborious and it's I remember when I first got

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<v Speaker 1>into radio. You're thinking about doing radio. I've thought about

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for a long time. I'd see my friends

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<v Speaker 1>do it, So you do it. I heard a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people do it. Then you do your first four

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<v Speaker 1>hour show and you're like, oh, man, that was great,

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're I was exhausted. Yeah, and guess what, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday. Ye get ready because you got four more

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the week, and you're like, wow, man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of work that goes into this. And

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<v Speaker 1>the same same for coaching. Everybody that walks into this

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<v Speaker 1>stadium on Thursday night, just take Thursday night for instance.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single one of them, Oh, I could call that

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<v Speaker 1>play or I could call this play, And you have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what goes into it. Sure none, And even

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<v Speaker 1>former players don't really truly know until they get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Jeff Saturday is gonna find out, Holy smokes,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot that goes into it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>find out I want this do I not do? I

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<v Speaker 1>want to pursue. This is Indianapolis going to give him

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to be the permanent head coach going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what happens. I don't I don't see that happening,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. But that's the one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>that strikes me about this what's coaching? And I'm and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that, as Jim Mercy said, he's seen a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great head coaches. He's never hired a bad

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<v Speaker 1>or losing head coach. But there are always some coaches

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<v Speaker 1>that you're like, hmm, that guy doesn't quite have it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he was good with players, but there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many other aspects that go into it. And how Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday is gonna be it's gonna be really interesting. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>he might be great, but he needs work, right. This

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<v Speaker 1>is hard to do on the fly, on the job training.

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<v Speaker 1>And they fired the coordinator yes the week before, so

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<v Speaker 1>now you don't have anybody to call plays except Parks

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<v Speaker 1>Frazier and Johnny. I'm gonna say this, the Saturday Cam

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be must see TV for de right, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Parks Frasier cam might even be better because

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<v Speaker 1>if you focus it on Parks Frasier who has never

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<v Speaker 1>called plays, and he's got Sam Ellinger to call plays for.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be interesting. If I were him,

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<v Speaker 1>I would take that Denny's menu and shrink it down

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<v Speaker 1>to an index card and go coach Boone from Remember

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans. We're gonna run five plays and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>master them, and we're gonna spend the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>week in practice mastering five plays. It is not important

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>for Parks to show how much he knows. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is important that the offense moves the football. Yeah, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what most important for him, and that's what gets lost

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>on everybody. Actually, until you do it. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>have the best ball play, you want to call the

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>coolest ball plays, and then you realize, I don't really

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>care about that. Are we moving the football? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>really when I when I got to a point where

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<v Speaker 1>I was calling plays and really was getting in a groove,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that was what was happening. It was like I got

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<v Speaker 1>this whole I did the same thing, the same thing

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you just talked about. I had a minill fold or

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<v Speaker 1>filled both front and back with all these great plays

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that I had seen other people run, and we couldn't

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>run eighty percent of them. So I'm like, well, let's

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>take the eighty percent off and see what we got.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>And then once we get those down, let's have a little,

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, a few wrinkles. Now that's high school versus NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, but it's the same philosophy of you

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.280
<v Speaker 1>gotta call what works. Nobody's gonna care about. Man, that

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was a really cool scheme. That was awesome. It's not

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>going to matter because if that play results in a yard,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>who cares. It's nobody's gonna care. As you were talking

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>about jobs that everyone thinks they can do until they

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>do them. Talk radio is a great example, perfect and

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I always tell people this, and people can try this themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, listening right now, you're thinking I want

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to do that. Look, that's how I got into the business.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I listened to sports talk radio and said I want

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 1>to get on the air and do that, and I

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>found a way to do it. It's another story for

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>another day. But try this in your cars, folks. You

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>think you have hot takes, Okay, look at your clock.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Set it for three to five minutes. Give yourself a

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>time limit. Let's say it's three minutes. You're gonna talk

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>for three minutes straight, buy yourself about a topic, and

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you're live. No starting over, no stopping and restarting, just go.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You are live. Hit it three minutes consecutively. See what

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you can do, and you'll learn very quickly how difficult

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it is just doing it in your car by yourself,

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>because at about one thirty you'll be like, I think

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm out of material now, you know, and you probably

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>do have a lot of takes. Maybe they're really good takes,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're excellent takes, but you could be out of

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>juice within five minutes. That's why some callers are excellent

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>for two to three minutes, but you put them on

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>for four hours and it's like when's dinner. So it's

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>very difficult. It's much more difficult than people realize to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. How much you want to bet first drive

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>of the game and they play the Raiders, they're out

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas. How much you want to bet first

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>drive of the game that they face a fourth and one? Oh?

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And what do they do? Exact? Saturday said that he

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Saturday said, Nah, I'm not so much in the analytics.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I've sworked down. I am going to kick a field

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>goal and take the points. If you're at the thirty

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>seven yard line of the opponent, okay, you're a no

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>man's land. Too long for a field even let's make

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit more interest exactly. You're at the

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, Okay, it's gonna be a fifty three yarder.

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I promise you it's gonna be the first. Or you

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>go for it fourth and one. You're not gonna punt

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>from the thirty five thirty six yard line? What are

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Jeff right and so I guarantee it's

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>happening within the first two drives of the game. He's

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna have one of those situations and he's gonna have

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to make that particular decisions. And even as a non

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>play caller on either side of the ball. As a

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>head coach, there's so many different things that are going on.

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>How much do you chime in on the offensive channel

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>when they're talking about plays. How much do you listen

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in on the defensive channel and chime in there? What

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>do you do on fourth down? All these things that

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have to work out for himself, and how

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he viewed it as a center as a player is

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be different. Than how he's looking at it now.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have Peyton manning back there to go, hey, pay,

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>let's just run this, or let's throw this, or they

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>throw out the start out to Marvin. Hey, Marvin's out there,

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Let's give it the edge. It doesn't quite work. Work

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>that way, throw to Marvin. So I'm curious, but I

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you within the first two drives of the game,

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>he'll be forced with a fourth and one. I'll give

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you another one guaranteed. Give me the overrunder on how

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>many delay of games and or gotta call a time

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>out with the playclock running down situations they have so

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.719
<v Speaker 1>both count as the same. How many of those do

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>they have throughout the course of it. You'll have a couple.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>But I would imagine that if there is one thing

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Saturday is telling his young offensive coordinator doing it for

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the first time, get the play call, no matter what,

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>getting to play. In fact, that would be something that

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest to every offensive play car. I don't

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>know how long you've been in it, get the play

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>call to your guy with twenty seconds, I'm sorry, get

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>them out of the huddle with twenty seconds at a minimum. Yeah,

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>left on the clock. We started playing with fire a

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>little bit with the with the Eagles, we're getting out

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>of the huddle at twelve eleven seconds. That's got to

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>get to your quarterback and out there so you can

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>see what you're looking at. If you got motions or

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>shifts or whatever you got going, you've got to get

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>them out of the huddle, get them out of the

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>huddle and go. And that's I would imagine that number

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to be relatively low. That's gonna be one

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>of the things if i'm Saturday, it's one of the

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 1>first things. Look, here's your time frame. Get the play

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>called immediately, get them to lie of scrimmage. Even if

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>at the line of scrimmage you got until fifteen seconds

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>on the coach com right, if you get them to

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a line of scrimmage with twenty eight seconds left, you

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>still have thirteen seconds for you to look at it

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and then tell Sam, hey change this play to this.

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Then the coach com goes off, you still have time

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to get everybody adjustin shifted as they were. If they win,

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, look they're playing the Raiders. The Raiders are

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a damaged team the way the Colts win, And I

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know if Jonathan Taylor will play. That'll be That'll be.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>The way they win is if they're able to ride

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Taylor, because without Taylor, I don't know what they're

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. They're gonna have to rely on Sam Ellinger.

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>So from the Raiders, I'm playing nine guys in the

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>box and like I'm daring him to throw, I am

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>daring him to throw. But if they have Taylor, they

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 1>got a shot. Let's Taylor. They have a shot. But

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>you're right, if they what if they win? The worst

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thing about all of this is with the Colts going

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>through this, and this is bad for them. You know,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>say what you will, Jim Er say. Look, they've had

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a tremendous run with Peyton Manning Andrew Luck a little bit.

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>They were even holding it together with Jacobe Brisett right,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>holding it together a little bit. They went to the

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>playoffs with Philip Rivers. They were than a game of

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>making the playoffs last year, and now look where they

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>are and I don't know what it's gonna turn out

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to be for them. And the Texans will finish up

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the regular season up there in January, so I'm really

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that one as much as effort to

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>see how you can how they'll look at that time

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and what the Texans are gonna look like at that time.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that the Texans are struggling even more

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>record wise than the Colts just it's it's a hard

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>pill to swallow right now. But I know they're in

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>different stages of development, obviously, no doubt. And what I

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>find interesting the Colts have been struggling to find that

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and obviously Matt Ryan. And there's been a lot

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>of talk about whether Chris Ballder Frank Wrych pulled the

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>trigger on Matt Ryan. That was a gym or so

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>people signed up for it, Johnny. Most of the pundits, no, no, no, no, no,

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>they were like, okay, no, I'm not talking about I

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>don't I think if if they if they allowed Matt

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Ryan to play, I still think they could get to

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>eight wins. Oh really, Okay, I still think you could

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>get to eight wins. Now, if they get Taylor healthy

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and Matt Ryan we're back. I still think they could

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>get to eight wins. But they're not gonna play Matt Ryan.

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And that was that was not ballad or Reich's call.

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.839
<v Speaker 1>That was going down a road. No, no, no, no, no, no,

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have gotten them. No. I don't think going

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>out of getting Matt Ryan was it was a bad move. Actually,

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it made sense. It made sense twenty hindsight.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I think the issue is if Matt Ryan were still playing,

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I still think they would be competitive. But for some

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>reason they were instructed not to play Matt Ryan, to

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>go that Ellinger and where you go? Now? Going with Ryan,

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it's next year, it's not You're not gonna do that question.

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>But let me ask you one more thing before you

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.959
<v Speaker 1>make your other point. Let's rewind a bit here. Offseason,

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you're the Colts. Do you go get Garoppolo? I'm telling

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>you right now, Matt Ryan's not gonna work. We can't

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>get him, or he's not. It's not gonna happen. For

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, would Garoppolo be an option for the Colts? Yes,

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>remember when Baker Mayfield was on at least the national

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>media's radar for the Colts. But I don't know what

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it costs you to get Garoppolo. What are they going

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to give him up for? Ye? I think he probably

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>could have got him for a little less than Matt Ryan. Actually,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>But but I don't know, but you didn't know at

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that time, and this is where the Colts were. You

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't know whether Jimmy was gonna come back fully completely healthy.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>He thought he might, but I think Garoppolo would have

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>given you a better chance. You know why, because Jimmy

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>could move. And that offensive line is not playing extremely well.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>Evenquing Nelson and Ryan Kelly are not playing extremely well.

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>And we saw it in week one. We're like, wait

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a second, this offensive line is playing a lot better

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>than they're playing right now. And they've never had the

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>rough tackle answered after Costanzo left. That to me, everybody

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>talks about Andrew Luck retiring, everydy Luck retiring, and for

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>good reason, but they never replaced Costanzo. Now they drafted

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Bran Ryman out of in Central Michigan. He's not ready.

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>He was not He's not ready. He needed to sit

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 1>for at least a year and get to a point

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>where he could be ready. He wasn't ready. So the

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>offensive line is not played extremely well. So Jimmy gives

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>him a chance because Jimmy can at least get out

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of dodge. He could scramble and make some things happen,

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>whereas Matt is not that's not his that's not his Ballulywick.

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>So would I have done it if I knew or

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>felt good about Jimmy's rehab, Like, Okay, I think he

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>can make it back by week one, I would have

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>done that if you're telling me Matt Ryan. Would I

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>still think Matt Ryan for them has not played extremely well.

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But if you let Matt Ryan just keep going, get

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Taylor back, I think they still would have gotten

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to seven eight wins. And maybe that's where they don't

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>want to be. Maybe they either want to be in

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the playoff hunt or they want to suck either way

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>one or the other. Okay, maybe they're seven eight win land,

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>which is not where they want to be because now

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>they're just back in mediocre land. I don't know, but

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, they were instructed Matt Ryan's not going

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>to be the quarterback. So here's the thing about them, though,

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>they've been to mediocre land before and they've come out

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of it with a really good team, at least on paper,

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>or a playoff team, and it was a team that

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people projected should do great things as

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>long as they get that quarterback position solidified. Because they

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>went through Chuck Pogano eight and eight a couple of

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.399
<v Speaker 1>years in a row, and had to fight to get there.

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And look, I thought those were pretty decent coaching jobs

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>by Chuck considering what they did or did not have it.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Those teams did not have talent like this Colt's team.

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And again, Skilaner has played a lot because he's been

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>banged up. Jonathan Taylor has missed a lot of this season,

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and those are two of the best players to have

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and you can't take advantage of it. That's the thing.

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>It's funny because people were talking to me about the

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Colts and I forget where I was, but I was saying, yeah,

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>they're the all time nemesis because as bad as it

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>is for them right now, and they haven't won this

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 1>division since twenty fourteen, which is incredible to think about,

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 1>but as bad as it is for them right now,

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you still have that terrible record against them, nine thirty

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>one and one, right is that what it is now?

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 1>And thirty two if you haven't the playoff loss, but

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>whatever the case is. And Tennessee right now, they're sort

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of the class of the AFC South. You beat them

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>last year when you were almost the worst version of yourselves.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>You came away with a victory in Nashville. You can

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>beat those guys. But for some reason, the Colts have

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that hex on the Texans, and you gotta find a

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>way to reverse the curse. Yeah. Well, we'll see obviously

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>what happens with the Colts. And you know, if they

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>continue to bottom out top five pick they get a quarterback,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll see where they picked the right quarterback. I know,

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I know when Ballard went to the Colts, he was

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>looking for a place he had a quarterback and with

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Luck there it was set up. It was set

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>up to. I mean, after the twenty eighteen season, I thought,

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>these guys are gonna be really, really difficult to beat.

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for Ballard at the time, when McDaniels

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>bowed out, thought, okay, Frank Wright comes in, they go

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs. Everything's looking good. They beat the Texans

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>here and everyone says, you dodge that Josh McDaniel's bullet.

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Here they are today, a few years later. It's amazing.

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>And look, it could have happened to the Titans too.

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Things Derek Henry could have gotten hurt. Oh my gosh,

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback situations if he had best man. I think

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>if they had healthy Tannahill right now, they're winning at

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City on Sunday night, and yet Henry got hurt

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>last year and they still without him. They were a

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 1>number one overall AFC team because they are handling things

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>well as an organization, and that's where you want to

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>be right now, handling things well. And I think the

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Texans are set up well, but they're behind them in development. Mark,

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Thanks Shouning. All right, coming up,

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.720
<v Speaker 1>let's go round the league and talk about things happening

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>with all thirty two teams. Next right here in Texans

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.959
<v Speaker 1>All Access. What's up everybody? Walking back to Wednesday edition

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football

0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and a a sideline reporter. Let's go around the NFL and

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 1>starting Buffalo where. Oh boy, if you have Josh Allen

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>on your fantasy team, this is a wait in c

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>situation with Josh and his elbow. If you missed it

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>against the Jets, he made a throw and after the

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>throw he reached immediately for his elbow. Now he ended

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>up making a throw way down the field. I think

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>after that, well, apparently it's an elbow sprain of the

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>ucl Now you hear a lot of that, I guess

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in baseball. But Sean mcderry, Buffalo coach, said he's day

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:06.279
<v Speaker 1>to day. Will he play this weekend against the Vikings?

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 1>How about that? That's a heck of a matchup. Sean

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>McDermott said, we'll see whether he is there. So if

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you have Josh Allen or your fantasy team, Josh Allen

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bill's quarterback. Now Jacksonville Jaguars ed drusher Josh Allen,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 1>But if you got Josh Allen, keep an eye on him.

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Case Keenum took snaps today in practice throwing too. Stefan

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Diggs both members of the Vikings for the Minneapolis Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty seventeen, So Josh Allen to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on that one. Russell Wilson really clapped back a

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Pete Carroll on seven in Seattle had mentioned

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't use the wrist band back when a

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 1>certain quarterback was there because it was not comfortable, didn't

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like it. You know, Smith has been using it and

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:58.760
<v Speaker 1>it's really helped in Pete Carroll's mind. Well, Russell Wilson

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>clapped back and said, I don't exactly what he said.

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>But we won a lot of games without one on

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the risk. So Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll clapping

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>back at one another, I kind of like get a

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit. I kind of like it seems like Pete

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Carroll's a great guy, Russell Wilson's a great guy. But

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>they're snapping at each other a little bit. I thought

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll's comments more about not so much the wrist band,

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>but the fact that his offs cordinayor is Shane waldron

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>calls a play, do you know this quarterback takes it?

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>They go run it. There's no barking back at each other,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>there is no pushing back. It is here's the play,

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>here's what we're gonna run, and we're gonna run it.

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 1>That I thought was a little more damning about Russell Wilson.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>But either way, play the headlines for what they are.

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But Russell Wilson has not I've been back on the

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>field since they went to London, so we'll see what

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos have. But he did clap back today at

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Pete Carroll about that. Your Thursday night game is Atlanta v. Carolina,

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and Carolina is gonna be wearing the black, all black,

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:05.959
<v Speaker 1>all black unis in that one. So it's weird because

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.720
<v Speaker 1>the NFC South, nobody's out of it. Nobody. Atlanta Falcons

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.800
<v Speaker 1>are four and five and they're tied with the Bucks

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>at four and five atop the division. They're not out

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of Carolina's not out of it. Two and seven. In fact,

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 1>take Carolina beating Atlanta two weeks ago, Carolina would have

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.719
<v Speaker 1>been first place in the AFC South and the NFC South,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of crazy division. But that game will

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 1>be on Thursday, Atlanta taking on Carolina. But our game

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 1>is Sunday against the New York Giants. And the two

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 1>men making the call, Mark Vandamir and Bob Popa get

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>together with a little menu out of Mike's Next right

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>here in Texas All Access. Oh yeah, we got one

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>hour down and one hour left to go, right here

0:42:44.800 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>on a Wednesday at Nation of Texans All Access. I'm

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>your host, John Harris, football Analyst, and I have the

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>pleasure of each and every Sunday having Mark Vandamir and

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>good friend Audrey Ware both in my ears the entire time. Well,

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I know, Giants fans, I've been listening to our next

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>guest for a long time, and that's Bob Poppy here

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on series Sex Sam sometimes in the morning, but here

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:08.759
<v Speaker 1>him calling Giants game and that the voice is just

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 1>so recognizable with Giants football and when it's met behind

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mike's time. I love it. Mark with Bob Poppa

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of the New York Giants. Bob, how's it going great

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>season for you so far? Yeah, it's been a surprise. Mark,

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.439
<v Speaker 1>great to be on with you. You know, I don't

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 1>think any Giants fan, I don't think there's people in

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the building that thought this team would be six and

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>two coming out of the buy. But that's where they

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>stand and they've actually put themselves in position here to

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe even make the playoffs. Well, yeah, let's talk about

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>what's going right. Say Quon Barkley has to jump out first?

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Or is it the play of Daniel Jones. I know

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff's making a huge difference, but can you

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>rank these things in order as to what the difference

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 1>is for the New York Giants in twenty twenty two. Yeah,

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the star with sae Quon Barkley, And you know we

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>noticed in camp, during training camp practices he was a

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>lot more physical. And Carl Banks and I, who do

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work with the head coach on the

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>various radio and TV platforms, that we're asking them one

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>day in camp and you said, you know, one of

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the things that we stressed to sae Quon is, you know,

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>take the dirty two. Take the dirty two, take the

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 1>dirty three, meaning you know, if there's nothing really there,

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>don't try to hit a home run. Keep us on schedule,

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and two or three yards on first down is not

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. Two or three yards on second down

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is not a bad thing. It keeps us on schedule

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to the n be able to function as an offense

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>because they don't have tremendous playmakers. And they told Barkley

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and they promised them, they said, sae Quon, if you

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>just keep taking the dirty two, at some point during

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the game, one's gonna pop and you're gonna have a

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.479
<v Speaker 1>big play. And that's happened just about every single week.

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.879
<v Speaker 1>That's tremendous, and that's great advice. Even for quarterbacks. Take

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the pocket, change the four or five yard pass from

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 1>time to time. What's the difference with Daniel Joe as

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you see it through half the season. Well, first of

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>all Barkley being healthy, and then a coaching staff that

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>knows how to use him and has coached him really well.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>He's picked up this new offense, he's picked up this scheme.

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>He's getting better and better on it. I think, you know,

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of false narratives out there about Daniel Jones. Obviously,

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>his legs in his athleticism are very key components to

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>what he can do on the football field. But his

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>decision making. I know privately, the head coach and this

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>entire football staff has been very impressed with Daniel Jones

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and his ability to make good decisions. You know, you

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>put on ESPN or you put on NFL Network and

0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you have you know, former players showing video, showing coaches tape,

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, you know, Daniel Jones has to be

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>better with his eye discipline. There's guys running open and

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 1>he's not seeing him. He's taking the checkdown well, other

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>than the fourth quarter of the Seattle game last week

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>where he didn't see the field, well, he's actually seen

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 1>the field great. And his Dabel said to me, he said,

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I said to him, I said, coach, you know,

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the year, I said, man it looks like

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit more left on the bone

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>there that you guys could have gotten. And he's like, uh,

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>because it sounds just like my family. He goes, you

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>know some of those guys that are running open that

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody's talking about that Daniel's missing. I said, yeah. He goes, well,

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>how about the fact that those guys were running wrong

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>routes and they weren't even supposed to be in the window.

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So how does he know if the guy's going to

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>continue on a deep over or a shallow a cross

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 1>wherever he's gonna just stop and sit down when he's

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>running the wrong damn route. So Daniel Jones has done

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot better than his passing numbers and what the

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>outside world may evaluate him. With Bob pop, a voice

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>of the New York Giants with us on Texans Radio,

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 1>what about Dabel what's he like to be around since

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you've seen him come into the building. He's authentic, he's real,

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>he cares. He spends a lot of time in the

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>cafeteriat lunchtime. You know, he'll sit with players, or he'll

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.720
<v Speaker 1>sit with some of his staff members or front office people,

0:47:01.880 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>or you know John Mara or the Mara family that's there.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But then other times he'll walk into the cafeteria with

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:12.280
<v Speaker 1>his plate food and he'll sit with the marketing department,

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>or he'll sit with the broadcast production crew, or he'll

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:20.240
<v Speaker 1>sit with digital content, or he'll sit with you know, salespeople.

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's really made it a point of trying to

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>get to know what everybody does in the building, getting

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to know everybody by name, and making everybody understand that

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>we're all in this together. Even if you don't necessarily

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>touch football, you're part of the same organization that's trying

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to win. And he's just a regular guy, to his

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>credit for a guy that's worked as long as he

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>did under Belichick and as long you know, he worked

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the one year with Sabin, but that's like working with Belichick.

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>He did not try to become Belichick or Saban like

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>so many of the other disciples that suddenly put on

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the I'm Bill Belichicker, I'm Bill Parcel's act without the

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>resume to be that guy. Dave's is just Daves. He

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>wants you to call him Dave's. He can't stand it

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>when you call him coach Dable. It's like, dude, I'm

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Dave's okay, and that's it, and that permeates not only

0:48:15.680 --> 0:48:18.919
<v Speaker 1>throughout the locker room, but throughout the organization. I gotta

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>think having Link Martindale around is one of the smartest

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 1>hires because he takes care of the defense, right, Davil

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to worry about it. How do you see it? Well,

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the other You know, a veteran head

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>coach told me once a long time ago, you're only

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>as good as your staff. And if you're a young coach,

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.480
<v Speaker 1>when they would mentor young head coaches, their biggest advice

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 1>would be, don't be scared to hire people that are

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:51.360
<v Speaker 1>big personalities, that are veteran coaches, because too many times

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 1>young coaches don't want to bring in those guys because

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they're scared that they're basically hiring a ready made replacement

0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>if you fail. Sean McVeigh did a great job with

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the Rams when he first got the job. What did

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>he do He hired Wade Phillips, a veteran proven defensive

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>coordinator run his defense. Dable didn't even know Wink Martindale.

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>They had they had, their pasts had never crossed. But

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Dabl said, look in all my years as a play caller.

0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:20.719
<v Speaker 1>His defense gave me the biggest fits. Let me find

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>out what he's all about. And he's brought in people

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>within the organization that are not just robots from the

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Belichick camp or from this camp and they just parrot

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>the same stuff. He's brought in people with different ideas,

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>like his offensive coordinator Mike Kafka, who comes from the

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid tree, you know. So they kind of sprinkled

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>things around a little bit. So it's more of an

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>open think tank. Boy, that sounds good. That sounds really interesting.

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Lovey Smith has been talking about the fact that the

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Giants are gonna blitz the Texans more than any other team.

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>How blitz heavy and blitz happy have they been so far?

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that a key factor in their success? It has been.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But wink Martindale, uh sometimes will not blitz a lot.

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>You know. I think we all know that when you

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>go against the veteran upper tier quarterbacks, the Peyton Mannings,

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>the Tom Brady, the Drew Breezes of the world, you know,

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>if you brit blitz them like crazy, they're gonna eat

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you alive because they can read it, they could see it.

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 1>They've been there, done that they know what's coming, they

0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>know how to handle it. Now, Wink will dial up

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a blitz at the right time, like he did against

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers and the Packers in London, and he'll he'll

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>pick his spots. But there's a lot of other times

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>where they're gonna just play coverage and they're gonna try

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to create ways with just five to get to the quarterback.

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think in this case, you know, like with

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a young quarterback like Davis Mills, Um, yeah, I think

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna throw a lot of exotic looks at him

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and try to confuse him. All right, let me go

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a little history with you here, Bob Bob popap Voice

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of the Giants with us on Texans Radio, more beloved

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>former Giants quarterback Eli Manning or Phil Simms. What do

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you got? That's an age thing, Man, That is clearly

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>an age thing. I think if you're if you're of

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>a certain age there there there are some that will

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>never move off. Phil Simms. I mean, look, you asked

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>my dad, He's gonna tell you why a tittle? So,

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, it kind of goes by generation. Um.

0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 1>They were both great in their own right. They were

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 1>both phenomenal players. Eli is going to get in the

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame someday, although I doubt he'll be a

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>first ballot, and Phil Simms should probably be in the

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame, but he won't. But I think you know,

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>no matter how you slice it, you can't go wrong

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>having those two quarterbacks as part of your franchise history.

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, let me stir up a rivalry here. You

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 1>went to Fordham, So Fordham sports announcers versus Syracuse sports announcers.

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>You tell me who's better. Go ahead, started off, Bob'll

0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>come on, it's Fordham. I mean, listen, Sherrek's Sarak Hughes

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.759
<v Speaker 1>has a great history with my mentor, Marty Glickman and

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Marv Albert and all the guys that are doing tremendous

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>work now to Rico, Ian Eagle and saw On and

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>so forth. But you know, Fordham, you know we got

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Vince Scully, we got Charles osgood when you go to

0:52:16.239 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the new side of things, and then you got Mike

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Breen and Michael Kay and Chris Karina with the Nats,

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and Spirodidas and Tony really of uh you know ESPN

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 1>with you know the Game show and there's a lot

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 1>of us out there, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know,

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be partial and go with Fordham. All right,

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>very nice, Bob, Papa joining us. Now you've called boxing golf.

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You've done it all. Bob, tell me what's difficult about

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>calling boxing. You gotta remember you're doing TV right, and

0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 1>then you pick your spot when you get into the

0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>heavy play by play. But like you don't have to

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>call every job, you don't have to call every right

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>hand that gets missed or blocked or whatever, because guess what,

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 1>two people on the ring. The ring is a square.

0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not like this stuff going on away from the ball.

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody could see what's going on, and you try to

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 1>pick your analysts brain and lead them into what they

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 1>see and how it may manifest itself later in the fight.

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>And then when you get to those aha moments, that's

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>when you go in and you do your call. Now

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>with golf, is that utter mayhem going on that people

0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>don't see behind the scenes in the truck? Because I

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:29.800
<v Speaker 1>always think with golf, you know every other sport, virtually

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you're calling a game with one ball or one puck

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Boxing it's two guys with golf, it's a

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of different balls and players in different places and

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 1>things like that. What's that like for you? Yeah, that's

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:47.879
<v Speaker 1>basically eighteen football fields happening at once. For us as announcers,

0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, doing it on television, it's you know, you're

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 1>just taking your cues from your producer and your directors

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>getting you the shots. Now it's all hell on the

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>truck because you've got a spotter for the producer, sir.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Especially when we do college golf at Golf Channel, which

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we've become, you know, that's become a big franchise for us,

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the men's and women's NCAA's and all these tournaments that

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.279
<v Speaker 1>we're doing during the course of the year. Because it's

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 1>one thing to do a golf tournament and for the

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>producer to look up and say, Hi, Tiger Wood second

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.719
<v Speaker 1>at three and then we're gonna go to Rory's, you know,

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 1>fourth at the par five eighth, where as opposed to

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a college golf event where you're looking up and you're like,

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, is that Pearson Cooty or is that Parker Cooty?

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Is this the freshman that transferred in in the portal

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for Texas or who's this guy? And which guy is

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that on A and M? And which guy is this

0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:42.359
<v Speaker 1>on Oklahoma State? And who's this kid from Oregon. That's

0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a whole that's that's being in the truck for that

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.840
<v Speaker 1>as a scene. Interesting. Bob popa voice of the New

0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>York Giants with us on Texans Radio. A couple more

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 1>for you. All right, So in New York the football

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>teams are doing well now, Giants, Jets having good seasons

0:54:58.680 --> 0:55:02.759
<v Speaker 1>so far. The football team's king of New York? Or

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 1>do the Yankees still have that title? How have things

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>evolved over the last ten twenty years, Bob, baseball will

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.360
<v Speaker 1>always be king in New York when you get to

0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the jet of winter or in the spring. You know,

0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 1>on the on the all talk stations, baseball is always

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.479
<v Speaker 1>the hottest topic. It is. It's just it is. It's

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would say the Yankees are definitely number

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>one in town. I would say the Mets are second,

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>with the Giants probably A two A, and then you

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.279
<v Speaker 1>get the Jets, and then it becomes the Knicks and

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:39.839
<v Speaker 1>the Rangers and everything else kind of falls in the line.

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>In college basketball is huge in New York. College football,

0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was. I was telling some friends I

0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 1>was watching the Georgia Tennessee game in Florida this weekend

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:53.799
<v Speaker 1>and one of my buddies is at Georgia grad and

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and then they were all fired up to Florida State,

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Miami LSU Alabama that night. And I'm like, you guys,

0:55:59.280 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>realize in New York this might get a two rating.

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll get it too, probably a one five. Nobody cares.

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, really, I'm like, it's all about pros

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>where we are so m you know, I would think

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:15.319
<v Speaker 1>the Giants are like a two a right behind the

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Mets in the in the pantheon, because you know, the

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Giants and Jets are lucky. Why when they've had these

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 1>bad seasons the last five years and things are awful,

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:28.319
<v Speaker 1>and they're both like almost eliminated by Halloween. Well, as

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>long as the Yankees are making a run and they're

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in the postseason, you know, the Giants and Jets could

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>lose thirty five to three each weekend, but it all

0:56:36.560 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 1>depends on what the Yankees did that day. And once

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees are eliminated, then the football teams lose their

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>cover cover. I like that word. Tell me NFC East

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the way. We just saw the Eagles

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>here last Thursday night. They're the only unbeaten team in

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the league. We know what the Cowboys are doing. Giving

0:56:56.040 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on the division moving forward down the stretch here, well,

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you always defer to the only team that's

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.600
<v Speaker 1>undefeated in the league, and Philadelphia is really good. The

0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback has you know, he's passing every test that they

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 1>laid out for him in jail and hurts because they

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>came into the season with a wait and see approach

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:16.360
<v Speaker 1>as to whether he's truly going to be their future.

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:19.840
<v Speaker 1>They've added a lot of pieces in free agency and

0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 1>via the trade, but I still think the Cowboys. I

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 1>think the Cowboys are still going to have to be

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.560
<v Speaker 1>reckoned with, especially if they wind up adding Odell Beckhams

0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Junior to their team. Their defense is outstanding. You know,

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Dak was hurt Cooper Rush held the fort and then

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Dak basically had you know, two extra preseason games playing

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bears and the Lions coming off the thumb injury

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and then the buy to kind of get up to speed.

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I still think the Cowboys are a team that's going

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 1>to be heard from before the season's over, and it

0:57:51.720 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't shock me if Dallas wound up winning the division,

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 1>even though Philly's beaten him once that was with Cooper Rush.

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:02.240
<v Speaker 1>That Dallas defense is pretty awesome. Bob, thanks so much

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 1>for the time. We really do appreciate the visit and

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to seeing you in the booth on Sunday. Yeah.

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I have a safe trip up and hopefully this weather holds,

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>because man, it's been in the mid to low seventies

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>all week and it is as nice as it catch

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 1>sounds good. Thanks a lot, Bob, Man, I thought there was.

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Those were some interesting comments from Bob talking about Daniel Jones.

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it puts a lot of it in perspective.

0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 1>We watched the game and we can see things happen.

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 1>We see open receivers. Hey, why did the quarterback throw this?

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Why did the quarterback throw that? I mean it, I

0:58:36.560 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 1>thought he put it so very well, and that is

0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 1>did the receiver run the wrong route to get open

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's not anticipating him to be there. That's a

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.720
<v Speaker 1>big part of playing that position is that everybody's on

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the same page and doing what the play call asked for. Now,

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 1>there's always time for deviation. There's always time to change

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 1>things up. But we saw that Tennessee game. There are

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:04.160
<v Speaker 1>at least two or three times where there was there

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>was not a solid communication bond, if you will, between

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and wide receivers. It wasn't there. Tennessee backed up

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Brandy cookstrn's a little hitch and then goes Davis throws

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the out route and it's I don't know who's wrong.

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but that can't happen. Happen a little

0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>bit later in the game. I'm trying to remember what

0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 1>route it was. But it happened later in a game too.

0:59:30.520 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>A couple times in that game happened potentially against the

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Eagles once I can think of. So you just you

0:59:37.160 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>just never know. But you just gotta work that much

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 1>harder to get on the same page. But I thought

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:44.440
<v Speaker 1>those are great comments from Dable through Bob Papa about

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones and how well he is playing and doing things.

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Even though the numbers aren't gargant win. He's playing very

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 1>well for the Giants and that's gonna be a tough

0:59:53.640 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 1>match because of his athleticism getting out of the pocket.

0:59:56.080 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And by the way Daniel Jones has always been a

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:05.280
<v Speaker 1>obole out of the pocket Marcus Mariota type, always always

1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.200
<v Speaker 1>tougher than two dollars steak. I never thought he threw

1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it all that well. But you go back and read

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 1>my draft report, and maybe I'll read it sometime this week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I talked about. His toughness and his running.

1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what really is what made him, has made him

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:18.400
<v Speaker 1>what he is. And they're getting the most out of that,

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:21.160
<v Speaker 1>hopefully now on Sunday, but throughout the rest of the year. Sure,

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.600
<v Speaker 1>why not, but just not on Sunday. All right, we

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:27.120
<v Speaker 1>get back. Let's hear from Jerry Hughes did a little

1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>deep slam with DeepC This will be fun for the

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:33.520
<v Speaker 1>greater Houston product. Jerry Hughes out of Austin High School,

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Bend, I s d. Represent that's next on Texas

1:00:36.160 --> 1:00:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to Access Man. I love being from htown, baby John

1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Harris football on the sideline report for your Houston Texans,

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and I love saying that word Houston. Love that being

1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.920
<v Speaker 1>my home and your home. I know you guys love

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 1>living in Houston. I know Jerry Hughes is so proud

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to be from Houston. He spent his career with the

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Colts and the Bills. But earlier in his life, he

1:00:57.480 --> 1:00:59.959
<v Speaker 1>went to Austin High School over the Fort Bend into

1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Pended School District. He was an off state running back

1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:06.200
<v Speaker 1>back in the day. Well he turned himself into one

1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>fine defensive end and now he is plying that trade

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:11.760
<v Speaker 1>right here in his hometown at Houston. Deepe City had

1:01:11.760 --> 1:01:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a chance to catch up with him for a little

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<v Speaker 1>deep slant interview of the week. Deepe and Jerry, Here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. It's a deep Scent one on one presented

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<v Speaker 1>by Vixfinity. My guests this week, Jerry Hughes, You're thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>off to the best start that you've had through the

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<v Speaker 1>first nine games of your career. How does it feel

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<v Speaker 1>so far for you? Oh? Man, it feels really good

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<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, of course, we want to be

1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 1>winning a lot more ball games, so you know, we

1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.960
<v Speaker 1>got an opportunity to kind of do that this second

1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>half of the season. So that's what I look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to doing. You've had the most sacks that you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had through this time. I mean, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the reason for the sack production that you've had this

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:47.960
<v Speaker 1>year has been? I got a credit to the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>and how well they've been playing, you know, causing the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks to kind of hold the ball a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>longer has been Hughes has been key. It's been allowing

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<v Speaker 1>me to kind of get off those blocks and really

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<v Speaker 1>finish my rushes, which is really what we focus on doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Levey Smith said that when you're out there, you play

1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:05.360
<v Speaker 1>like a rookie trying to make a team or a

1:02:05.360 --> 1:02:07.160
<v Speaker 1>free agent trying to make a team, that you just

1:02:07.200 --> 1:02:10.440
<v Speaker 1>have this this desire to just play and perform at

1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the top level, like you're trying to make the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does that attitude come from for you? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just my competitive nature. Anytime you get me to

1:02:19.240 --> 1:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>play anything, I mean, football, basketball, checkers, even hop Scotch,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to win. So I'm gonna go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and give it one hundred and ten percent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my effort is probably going to be unmatched. This one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'm gonna try to do is, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>take it to that next level just to see how

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:34.600
<v Speaker 1>badly do you want it. But I think also just

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<v Speaker 1>me flying around trying to do that just to show

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<v Speaker 1>the young guys that's how we play football, That's how

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<v Speaker 1>we play Texas football. I saw you play football in

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<v Speaker 1>this league. You gotta be fast and decisive. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of moves in your arsenal love. You talked

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<v Speaker 1>about your bullrush, your spin move. I mean, at this

1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>stage in your career, are you still adding the moves

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<v Speaker 1>or is it just fine tuning what you already have

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing when to land what move. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>fine tuning for the most part, you know, just knowing

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<v Speaker 1>how to set up your pass rush moves. For It's

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<v Speaker 1>really where I'm at right now, focusing mainly on hand plays,

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<v Speaker 1>manning get off in the first half and then second half,

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<v Speaker 1>really closing it in and really just making it all

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<v Speaker 1>look at one fluid movement, so you can't really tell

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. I try not to give off too

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<v Speaker 1>many tales as I'm pass rushing. I mean, it's an art.

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<v Speaker 1>I like watching all the other guys in the league

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<v Speaker 1>get after it, and even the guys on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>they have moves that you know, I haven't seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been playing on this stage for thirteen years, so

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<v Speaker 1>people are certainly finding new ways to get after the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I like adding new things that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly working on my game. Do you bring out

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<v Speaker 1>those new moves in practice, like you'll bring them out

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<v Speaker 1>against the old line and see what they think of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm certainly trying them on LT and

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<v Speaker 1>a big Titis. I mean, those two guys are probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some phenomenal pass blockers. I mean, big guys

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<v Speaker 1>who move like dancing bears as we call it. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying for that side, ye be so nimble?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, it's incredible. So when any time I get

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<v Speaker 1>a one on one opportunity, but then I'm trying, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm in their ear asking what they saw, What

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<v Speaker 1>sells did I give if the move wasn't successful, And

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<v Speaker 1>they're so smart they actually reciprocate that information and they're

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<v Speaker 1>feeding it back to me on how to beat an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linement, which is cool to have, you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman working with a defensive linement on how to

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<v Speaker 1>get sacks. So I never thought about the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>disguising a move like you hear about defenses disguising their coverages.

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<v Speaker 1>But even as a pass rusher, you try to disguise

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<v Speaker 1>your move before you you know, you may present one

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<v Speaker 1>thing and actually do another. Is that part of what

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do at the stage. Like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to bull rush, and so I'll like to

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<v Speaker 1>run at you and you'll think I'm bull rushing. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>set it up that way and then I might spend

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<v Speaker 1>on you, or I might take an inside move quicker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it all depends on within those first two steps,

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<v Speaker 1>how I can make that move look exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's hard to defend against too, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what's coming, or you think one thing's

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<v Speaker 1>coming you've prepared for, and then it's something else. How

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<v Speaker 1>about you, You've moved back to Houston and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're back in your hometown. You're back with the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that you grew up watching, the food you grew up eating.

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<v Speaker 1>How has that been for you so far? It's been amazing, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>just to kind of stay in my routine, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big routine guy, creature of habit, and so

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to where I can start something in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season and continue it, uh working with my chef,

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<v Speaker 1>working with the Nutritionless team here, Oh, it's been phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>I even got an acupunctuist that I'm able to see

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<v Speaker 1>so everyone that I kind of put in play to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get my body back going for Sunday. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing has changed. I haven't skipped a beat or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be hard, though, to stay healthy in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, I mean, especially since you know how

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<v Speaker 1>much good food is out here, is your weakness text

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<v Speaker 1>Max Mexican food. I mean, it's on every corner and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has the best tacos, and I'm a sucker for

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<v Speaker 1>street tacos. I mean I just found out carnate a soada.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm saying that right straight steak tacos.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know a little bit that that flavor that

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<v Speaker 1>however they prepare that meat that's your thing, that is

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<v Speaker 1>my thing on the taco right now, I'm freaking hooked

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Do you have to be super healthy like

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<v Speaker 1>your third team in the league, Like, I mean, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to clean up your diet a lot or

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<v Speaker 1>can you do you have like a little wiggle room

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<v Speaker 1>as a defensive alignment. I have a little wiggle room

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's so humid here, so we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sweat it off right right, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of Halloween where the kids went tigger treating,

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<v Speaker 1>and as they like to say, they got to pay

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<v Speaker 1>Dad taxes of course, So you know, I take a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little percentage of that. Kid. What's what's candy? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the candy you're taking? Oh? I'm taking the peanut M

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<v Speaker 1>and m's. For some reason, my kids don't like chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh no, very right. I mean don't know for you,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're going to be eating most of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love. The one thing I give back to them

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<v Speaker 1>is the freaking sneakers. You can have that you can

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<v Speaker 1>have the caramel inside anything else? Really, Dad tax pay up? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're back in Houston. Did I read somewhere that Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so when the Texans were first formed, you were probably

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<v Speaker 1>what high school? Yeah? Did I read somewhere that you were?

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<v Speaker 1>You voted as one of the potential names, because I

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<v Speaker 1>voted in that too. Yeah. What did you vote for? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the time they had like a space

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<v Speaker 1>themed team coin. I know they had the Roughnecks to Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's one more to hadros Okay. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I went with it was something with like a space

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<v Speaker 1>They either like a spaceship or something, but I went

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<v Speaker 1>with the space team because I figured we keep it

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<v Speaker 1>all Yeah it's Rockets Astros, and so I was just spaing, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking that we do. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I like Texans because you know, it just branches out

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<v Speaker 1>and now we get a wide range of fans. You

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<v Speaker 1>get everybody, get everybody in the state. Right. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>not do that right? All right? So a few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>when Brian Cushing used to play here, he was from Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>and I asked him what the most prototypical Jersey thing

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<v Speaker 1>about him was? But then I thought, what about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like growing up in Texas, what's the most Texas or

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<v Speaker 1>most I should say, most Houston thing about you? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Texas is different in different parts. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>most Houston thing about you? I was gonna say, probably

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<v Speaker 1>my love for just Mexican food. Okay, like seven days

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. I feel like everyone here in Texas

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<v Speaker 1>we could probably do that with a my soul frozen mark,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I feel like that's something that's probably very

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<v Speaker 1>texting of us. We could probably eat that seven days

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. That might be it. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>probably I'm used to seeing like horses on the highways

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<v Speaker 1>and road so that that doesn't really surprise me versus

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<v Speaker 1>time that's like, no big deal. Oh no, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>someone's riding their horse down like a freaking highway. We're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just it's just that's that's a normal day in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Right anywhere else you probably think there's like an almost

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<v Speaker 1>parade or something like that going on. But yeah, certainly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Houston has its own culture between the

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<v Speaker 1>music and the scene and everything like that. And so like,

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<v Speaker 1>now that you're back, how much has it changed. Tremendously, Yeah, tremendously.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how the city is embracing the culture. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we we had bumb performing at our halftime, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know my family was excited. They were going crazy up

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<v Speaker 1>in the little suite, having a good time, Slim thug,

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<v Speaker 1>a big slim mom. Mom's partying, rocking out, throwing up

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<v Speaker 1>for Houston, tex Inside. I'm just like, this is amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and it's great to see for the city. It's great

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<v Speaker 1>that we have, you know, those music moguls that that

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<v Speaker 1>are able to come back and perform and be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that because they are Houston and we love them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry has been such a pleasure to get to know

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<v Speaker 1>your best of luck for the rest of the season. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Always glad to be here. He

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely tearing it up rushing to pass this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jerry Hughes has been great for the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully Jerry feels that same love going back there

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<v Speaker 1>the way he has been incredible for this team and

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<v Speaker 1>provides pass rush, and he'll be facing a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>good ones and Andrew Thomas, and don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be Tyry Phillips or Evan Neil, depending on Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Neel's availability, so we'll keep an eye on that. But

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Hughes rushing y edge has been a problem for

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<v Speaker 1>every offensive tackle he has faced this year and looking

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<v Speaker 1>for more of that on Sunday against Daniel Jones and

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants. Speaking the Giants, we do a

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<v Speaker 1>little in the lab that is gigantic, well not in

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<v Speaker 1>length and size and all that, but just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>I would say it's a typical in the lab, like

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy, funky typical in the lab. Yeah, that's next.

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<v Speaker 1>On Texans All Access, we go on false segment of

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<v Speaker 1>this Wednesday at issue of Texans All Access from the Honday,

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<v Speaker 1>Texans Radio Studio. I'm John Harris Foot playing on all

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<v Speaker 1>sideline reporters for the Schlumberge Stats Challenge, brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>by our friends at Schlumberge, and the stats Challenge number

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<v Speaker 1>is eighty five. Now I'll tell you what that number

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<v Speaker 1>relates to, because it relates to somebody that we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to discuss in just about fifteen seconds right here

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<v Speaker 1>within the lab with my man Drew Doherty. Very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>topic that we stumbled upon. And you'll see what eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five means in just uh second. That's right, it's in

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<v Speaker 1>the lab time Drew Doherty, John Harrison, Mark Vandermer is

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<v Speaker 1>over there playing darts and screwing around. So John, how

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<v Speaker 1>you doing. I'm doing well. You know the other day

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remembers one or Tuesday whenever our buddy Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Moore came in here. I had an interview with Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and I usually get a player on Tuesday while

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do the Players show. And Chris walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw the dartboars. Oh you mounified throw a dart.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have about four dark it's five darts. We

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<v Speaker 1>used to have like six or nine, they've all gotten

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<v Speaker 1>broken or thrown whatever. He comes in. He throws two

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<v Speaker 1>bulls eyes of the four and then the other two

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<v Speaker 1>are just around the bull's eye. And I'm like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>no longer and you're no longer invited. You throw like

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<v Speaker 1>that play We're do you get good at darts? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, probably back in college I would imagine yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Um he said he hadn't played in a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah he You know, Mark and I pretty solid team.

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<v Speaker 1>We took on our video team, Jared Huff, ri Ip

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<v Speaker 1>and h Tyler Suttarth. We would take those two on

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<v Speaker 1>each probably each day. It got to be a battle

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<v Speaker 1>summer for sure, before a training camp, and so darts

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<v Speaker 1>were a pretty big deal. And then he just came

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<v Speaker 1>in here and Chris Barres just started throwing. He's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>darts at dagon bulls. I were like, no, no, no, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're out of here, professional athlete. You're too

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<v Speaker 1>good for us. Yeah, believe it or not. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be good at darts about twenty years ago. Not anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>haven't played, But I was okay, I could handle my business.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said rip about Jared Huff and Jared huffed

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<v Speaker 1>to nut. Jared huff edits a lot of the videos

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<v Speaker 1>and put together a lot of the videos that you

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<v Speaker 1>see on Houston Texans dot com. He just he's spending

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<v Speaker 1>his last week with us. He's got a new job.

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<v Speaker 1>So crat stuff Uff. We're gonna miss Huffy. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>good dude, good strong aggie. And yes he's moving on

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the Texans. Okay, you are expecting us to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about A and then B, but we're doing Q today

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<v Speaker 1>because we're just gonna go full on in the Lab. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be dorky. It's gonna be like a March version

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<v Speaker 1>or a June version of in the Lab. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was spawned a week or so ago when I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing Texans All Access with DP and Mark and you

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<v Speaker 1>know how they are. I brought up a great little

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<v Speaker 1>tangent idea in the middle of a show, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little too It wasn't enough mainstream for them. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about trading and trades, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa Boa, Boa, You can trade for any AFC South

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<v Speaker 1>player that's not a quarterback that is retired all time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can add him to this roster at his peak,

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans roster, which guy are you trading for? So

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get Peyton Manning or or Andrew Luck, but

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<v Speaker 1>any other position you can add them to this Texans roster.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's two thousand and two through now basically, but

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<v Speaker 1>retired players. Who would you add? John Harris? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a retired player has to be retired

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<v Speaker 1>because I would add Dwight Freeney. I want to pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>I want more guys getting after the quarterback. Now there's

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<v Speaker 1>other positions you could add that would possibly help as well,

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<v Speaker 1>well certainly would help, but that's where I would go

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<v Speaker 1>to have a constant This guy might get two three

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<v Speaker 1>sacks per game off of you if you're not careful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's who I would get. I would add Dwight Freeney

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<v Speaker 1>to this roster to up the anti help Jerry Hughes out,

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<v Speaker 1>help Grenard out who's not in, and get after the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and make things a little dicier on opposing offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would you add? Because the clear answer is he

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<v Speaker 1>had Peyton Manning. He's the best quarterback, he's a Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer, he's one of the best ever. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not adding a quarterback. You and I are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thinking along the same lines, or I should say line,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would probably go inside. Okay, And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that always frustrated me when I watched him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's retired, I don't know. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen him anywhere. I think he's retired to retired. No,

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell Casey, that's a good tightness. He was the Titans

1:14:37.360 --> 1:14:41.439
<v Speaker 1>version of of JJ because he was inside outside guy.

1:14:41.680 --> 1:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>He didn't always go up to defensive van like in

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<v Speaker 1>a four three all the way outside, but from five

1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:49.679
<v Speaker 1>technique to five techniques just outside the tackle on both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way across. He could. He could impact the play.

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<v Speaker 1>Pain in the ass, absolute pain in the ass. And

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<v Speaker 1>I loved watching him play because he was not three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty pounds. He wasn't just doing a sheer size.

1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:08.720
<v Speaker 1>He had every combination of quickness, hands, playmaking ability. He

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<v Speaker 1>had it all. And he played for some really bad

1:15:11.520 --> 1:15:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Titans teams. I was gonna say, man, he was there

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mettenburger years, the Revolving Door before and after Mettenburger. Yeah,

1:15:20.280 --> 1:15:25.960
<v Speaker 1>those those teams really tough. But when he I hated

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<v Speaker 1>it at the end of hit for him because they

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<v Speaker 1>finally had something by seventeen sixteen seventeen eighteen, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of at the back end of his career

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<v Speaker 1>at that point. But I always felt like Drell Casey

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<v Speaker 1>for the Titans was a guy that impacted everything. It

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<v Speaker 1>was really hard to run against him, especially if you

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<v Speaker 1>ran away from him, because he had a He had

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<v Speaker 1>an uncanny knack of twisting his body towarding his body

1:15:51.560 --> 1:15:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to get in between zone pulling lineman and then get

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<v Speaker 1>down a line of scrimmage quickly and make a play

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<v Speaker 1>on a running back. He was really tough. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're both at the same point and it and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of leads drew to a discussion that I

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<v Speaker 1>know people have asked us, but they're they're already thinking about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do when you come to the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three draft and there are some elite defensive alignement

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<v Speaker 1>in this draft. And I know that the Texans haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten out of Davis what they've wanted to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of Davis, and there are some really good quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular draft. But I think you can see where

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are going, and that is if this

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<v Speaker 1>defense could hold up better against the run. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I picked an interior defensive lineman and you

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<v Speaker 1>picked a defensive end. Who have we been missing Jonathan Grennard,

1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:46.080
<v Speaker 1>ye Emily Collins. It's not all on two guys to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run. But we weren't beefy upfront as it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but with those two guys in the lineup, they just

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<v Speaker 1>gave you that much more against the run. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't gonna be perfect with them, and those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>played in the game against Chicago and klil Herbert went

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely crazy against you a backup running back. So it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been perfect with them, but it certainly has not

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<v Speaker 1>been good at all without them. So we're thinking definitely

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<v Speaker 1>along the same lines at that front seven. In particular

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<v Speaker 1>those two. I thought about linebackers, and I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of going back in my mind, like what linebackers would

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<v Speaker 1>I want? Demiko Ryans. Demiko Ryans would be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one that I would want is a healthy Cushing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would want a healthy Cushing. If we had a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy Cushing on this defense. And he was the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he was the guy in charge, and he was running things.

1:17:35.640 --> 1:17:40.880
<v Speaker 1>He brought oop he was incredibly explosive in twitchy before

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<v Speaker 1>the injury. I'd take Cushing all day, every day. So

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<v Speaker 1>you put those three guys, Freeny, Casey, Cushing on this

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<v Speaker 1>defense and things are changed exponentially. The two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>nine in two eleven seasons for Brian Cushing some of

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<v Speaker 1>the best overall seasons by any player, regardless of side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball position. Absolutely in the history of this franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>He was outstanding both He was a pro bowler in

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<v Speaker 1>O nine, he should have gotten into Pro Bowl and eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, understandably there were probably some lingering stuff

1:18:10.080 --> 1:18:12.320
<v Speaker 1>or lingering ideas about him and who he was and

1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:14.519
<v Speaker 1>all that that kept him from getting in eleven. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was out. He was the heart and soul of

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<v Speaker 1>that that twenty eleven team. He was the MVP. I mean,

1:18:20.040 --> 1:18:22.920
<v Speaker 1>his teammates voted him the MVP of the twenty eleven team,

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<v Speaker 1>which might, I would say, probably be the best team

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<v Speaker 1>of all time Texans wise, when you you emphasized the

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<v Speaker 1>letter Q, and I was like, when you asked your question,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, I think I know where Drew's

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<v Speaker 1>going with this. But then you said retired players. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And because Q. I was thinking of Quentn Nelson Um

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<v Speaker 1>for the Colts, not that I would take him right

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<v Speaker 1>now because I didn't want to go see because that's

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<v Speaker 1>two Yeah, I don't know. You just picked the letter Q,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that's where you were trying to write

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<v Speaker 1>down l U m or. But if you could pick

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<v Speaker 1>a current AFC South player, not Texan, a current non quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>current aff Jeffrey Simmons, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy slam dunk. Yeah, absolutely, I mean he him

1:19:05.240 --> 1:19:07.519
<v Speaker 1>is a slam dunk. He's pretty easy for me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's who i'd go with. And here's here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. And this is kind of why I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this debate because on my podcast locked inn FFL Draft,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about this with the guys and the

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<v Speaker 1>two other guys I'm on. When I had presented kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a top five draft scenario, and in that

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<v Speaker 1>scenario for the Texans, I just you know, I picked

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<v Speaker 1>Will Anderson Junior and Jaylen Carter from out of Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>boy and something. Jaylen Carter is Jeffrey Well, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think when I when I take the Browns, when I

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<v Speaker 1>did this the Browns right number four, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. It was two and four. I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of the top ten even No, he won't

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<v Speaker 1>get out of top four. And then he's saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Browns will I think they're gonna win. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Brons will start to win a few games. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Browns are gonna end up being right

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<v Speaker 1>where they were last year thirteen thirteen through fifteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's where they're gonna end up. Um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get Carter at that point, but watching

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<v Speaker 1>him against Tennessee. Had been banged up in the game

1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>against Oregon at the beginning of the year, and then

1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:05.200
<v Speaker 1>he was kind of in and out, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>finally missed a couple of games he came back for.

1:20:07.680 --> 1:20:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it was I'm trying to think who Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>played before Tennessee. But he's back for that game, just

1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:14.680
<v Speaker 1>wrecking shop in the oh against against Florida in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the cocktail party. But then against Tennessee, he just

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<v Speaker 1>he showed it all. I mean to He stopped the game.

1:20:20.439 --> 1:20:22.400
<v Speaker 1>It took the forty five minutes for them to correct

1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that play, to figure out what safety wasn't you know.

1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's lifted that dude up and then forklift

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<v Speaker 1>him at the end and then got rid of him

1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:30.519
<v Speaker 1>and then tackled. It should have been a safety. But

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<v Speaker 1>either way, yeah, Jalen Carter, we start thinking about on

1:20:33.600 --> 1:20:36.479
<v Speaker 1>his defense and it's like I remember for so long

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Colts in this division, You're like, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>need freedi in a mathist. Man, we needed freedi in

1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a mathist. And then we go get Mario Williams and

1:20:42.880 --> 1:20:45.479
<v Speaker 1>they who Mario Williams was not either one of those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but you found somebody that could impact the game from

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. And when you got J. J. Watt, who

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<v Speaker 1>get impacted the game from the edge and the inside,

1:20:51.600 --> 1:20:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you start looking around the division and how do you

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<v Speaker 1>win a division? Well, you want to go find one

1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of those. You're not gonna find Derek Henry. You're just not.

1:20:56.880 --> 1:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna find Derek Henry. But Duke got Damian Pierce,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a you know, you didn't go out and

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<v Speaker 1>get an F three fifty. You know, you went out

1:21:04.680 --> 1:21:07.479
<v Speaker 1>and found you know, a tank, which is a little different.

1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But you can't find a Jeffrey Simmons. And it's his

1:21:10.320 --> 1:21:12.559
<v Speaker 1>name is Jaln Carter. There aren't plenty, There aren't many

1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of them, but you could go out and find a

1:21:14.800 --> 1:21:16.760
<v Speaker 1>guy like Jeffrey Simmons. Do you think about every single

1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:20.599
<v Speaker 1>game as Simmons has played for the Titans against the Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>He's found a way to impact that game. He's an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute monster, John, He's a monstrance. All week long leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to that Titans game, I was looking at the

1:21:28.479 --> 1:21:33.360
<v Speaker 1>injury report Ryan Tannehill. Yes, I know Jeffrey Simmons Wednesday sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing on Thursday, and then both those guys are questionable.

1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:41.559
<v Speaker 1>And I think they wound up ruling Tannehill out on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>but yet on Friday questionable and I was like, oh,

1:21:45.600 --> 1:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>there's And I was much more. I didn't really care

1:21:48.000 --> 1:21:50.760
<v Speaker 1>as much about Tannehill. I cared about Jeffrey Simmons, and

1:21:51.400 --> 1:21:53.799
<v Speaker 1>he wound up playing and he was basically a grenade.

1:21:54.160 --> 1:21:56.439
<v Speaker 1>When you throw that grenade in the middle of your

1:21:56.479 --> 1:22:01.320
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, bad stuff happens. When on Friday, I was

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<v Speaker 1>scouring the twitters, and as I scoured, I fall I

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<v Speaker 1>found a video and I can't remember who posts. I

1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:09.000
<v Speaker 1>think it maybe been Paul Karski posted a video in

1:22:09.000 --> 1:22:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the locker room with Simmons talking about whether he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play or not, and he said one thing and

1:22:13.360 --> 1:22:15.720
<v Speaker 1>my heart dropped. He was like, well, I feel better

1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:17.920
<v Speaker 1>than I did last Sunday, and I went, oh no.

1:22:18.640 --> 1:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>And the previous Sunday he played against the coltson he

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<v Speaker 1>got banged up in that game, and I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play. And then when he plays, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>he's out right. So when you get in a spot

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<v Speaker 1>where you're trying to improve your team, you're like, Okay,

1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:32.479
<v Speaker 1>what do other teams have, you know, it's like AFC

1:22:32.640 --> 1:22:36.120
<v Speaker 1>South envy. What do they have that we'd like to get? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like that guy. Yeah, and Jaylen Carter is that

1:22:38.960 --> 1:22:41.160
<v Speaker 1>guy from Georgia. Now there might be some other things

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in draft and we'll see where it all

1:22:42.960 --> 1:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>ends up. We're only halfway through the year. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the mock that I was doing at that time, the

1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Texans were two and the Browns were four, and so

1:22:51.400 --> 1:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you get to the top four. And so I went

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<v Speaker 1>Will Anderson and Jaylen Carter with that, thinking, what's our biggest, biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>biggest need. Well, it's the be better defensively. Sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are the two I came up with. And the

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<v Speaker 1>two guys kind of said, no, man, I think you

1:23:04.960 --> 1:23:07.640
<v Speaker 1>need to go quarterback wide receiver. And I was like,

1:23:07.840 --> 1:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can make a case for

1:23:08.920 --> 1:23:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver at four. But I got their point.

1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:14.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I understand, you know, you've got to get

1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:17.040
<v Speaker 1>better quarterback quarterback play, and Davis Mills got nine games

1:23:17.120 --> 1:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to play better at quarterback, and hopefully he'll do that.

1:23:20.560 --> 1:23:23.679
<v Speaker 1>He's shown some signs of playing better against Las Vegas

1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>early in the Philadelphia game. He's got to continue that

1:23:26.680 --> 1:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>and get consistent with it or they're gonna be, you know,

1:23:29.800 --> 1:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>some people that are going to be clamoring for that

1:23:31.320 --> 1:23:34.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the top whatever wherever the Texans end up picking.

1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:36.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's a discussion down the road. But

1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I find it interesting that Simmons was the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I and I bet if we brought Mark

1:23:40.520 --> 1:23:42.719
<v Speaker 1>and he'd say the same thing. Yeah, I think Simmons

1:23:42.760 --> 1:23:44.920
<v Speaker 1>would be the one that everybody would want for this

1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Texans team. Okay, a few little tangents that come up

1:23:47.400 --> 1:23:51.439
<v Speaker 1>off of our conversation that you brought up. Brian Cushing

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<v Speaker 1>saw him on Saturday, he's doing well. Yeah right, he's

1:23:55.439 --> 1:24:00.479
<v Speaker 1>got shockingly he's got athletic young children. Yeah, very very

1:24:00.520 --> 1:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>good at flag football. And saw his chitt and chat

1:24:02.880 --> 1:24:04.599
<v Speaker 1>with him because my one of my sons was playing

1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>flag football. The other one just finished up his seven

1:24:06.439 --> 1:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>on seven season. He made the all start too. Nice congratulation, Yes,

1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>proud of him, Proud of both. But Brian Cushing is

1:24:13.640 --> 1:24:15.760
<v Speaker 1>doing well. Looks good, looks like he goes suit up

1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and reek some havoc. Jadevion Clowney was in town that

1:24:20.560 --> 1:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the Browns had a buy last week and his son's

1:24:23.280 --> 1:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>team was playing before hours, so Joe Devion's doing well.

1:24:28.000 --> 1:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Got a chance to say hello to him. And then hey,

1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I was voting yesterday and I saw Owen Daniels. He

1:24:32.680 --> 1:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>was voting ahead of me. So he did his civic duty.

1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:37.120
<v Speaker 1>And you know we uh we fist bumped on the

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<v Speaker 1>way out the doo. Do too much talking in the

1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>polling places because you know how people can be, so

1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't say too much. Yes, we know how people can

1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>be at voting places. Yes. And then on top of that,

1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you bring up Darrell Casey. He was a twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick who was on this show. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if his last year or two years ago. We did

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<v Speaker 1>a read draft of two thousand and eleven for the Texans,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that redraft, the Texans chose J. J. Watt,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Houston, Oh, Drell Casey, Yea, Richard Sherman, and Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Harris amongst others. Wow, what a group that was. And oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, eighty five Terrell Casey's TfL number in

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<v Speaker 1>his career. We could use a few of those this

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<v Speaker 1>week against the Giants, against sae Quon Barkley for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thanks to everybody on the show, to all of

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<v Speaker 1>you for listening. We'll see you next time, and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>go Texans.