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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome to your Wednesday edition the

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. I am your host, John Harris, football

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Speaker 1: and a sideline reporter, and we got a great show

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Speaker 1: for you this evening. Boy, we got a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: We got Cherry Hughes on the show today. Mark's gonna

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Speaker 1: join me in just a little bit for a number

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Speaker 1: of things. Today. We've got Bob Poppa play by play

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Speaker 1: voice of the New York Giants on the show today.

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Speaker 1: And we got a little funky on in the Lab today.

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Speaker 1: You have to stick around for that one because that

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Speaker 1: got all kinds of funky and it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: typical in the Lab podcast you're gonna absolutely love. We'll

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Speaker 1: have that later in the show with myself and Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 1: But we kick off each and every Wednesday show with

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Speaker 1: the visit from the general manager of your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario. Let's go joining us now the Hounday Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio. It's Texans general manager Nick Casserio. Nick, great

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Speaker 1: to see you. How was the mini buy the little break?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you took any time off, how'd

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Speaker 1: you spend it? Yes, it was good. It's fairly productive.

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to see some football on Saturday

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Speaker 1: on a scouting front, and then Sunday had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to spend the day with my daughter, so I kind

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Speaker 1: of the best of both worlds. So worked out well.

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Speaker 1: So as you're spending your day with your daughter and

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Speaker 1: just asking are you able to completely shut off football?

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Speaker 1: It is I'm spending with my daughter, whatever's going on

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Speaker 1: in football, it just can't even focus on red zone

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Speaker 1: on in the background. Nick, No, it's not. I actually

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Speaker 1: was able to kind of finish up some things on

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Speaker 1: the Giants on Sunday, So it takes some time in

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Speaker 1: the morning, get some time with the family, and in

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Speaker 1: the afternoon while they're doing some things, try to work

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Speaker 1: on the Giants and just try to stay on par

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Speaker 1: with on track with the preparation. So that's what I

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Speaker 1: try to do. But this is a good question, how

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Speaker 1: do you keep up with the league? Now? How do

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Speaker 1: you digest information that transpired over the course of a

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Speaker 1: Sunday after do? Yeah, you're trying not to worry necessarily

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Speaker 1: about what happened one particular weekend or one particular game.

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Speaker 1: A coincidentally, the Giants are on their by so it

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Speaker 1: wasn't as if we had the opportunity to watch them.

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Speaker 1: So there are other teams that we're playing. We're kind

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Speaker 1: of working our way here through kind of the NFC's

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, Philly last Thursday, Giants this weekend,

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Speaker 1: Washington next weekend. So I'd say the biggest thing is

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Speaker 1: just familiarizing yourself with opponents that you don't see other

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Speaker 1: that standpoint, you try to work on the Giants, finished

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Speaker 1: on track. Nicolas seg one final look back at the

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Speaker 1: game against the Eagles, because there were some bright moments

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Speaker 1: in that particular game. You get ten rookies ended up

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Speaker 1: to Thursday against the Eagles. Yeah, it's today. Games kind

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Speaker 1: It's say, in the end situationally, they had the advantage

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Speaker 1: they're a good team. You know, we did some decent

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Speaker 1: So i'd say overall, the attitude and the effort has

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you about the Giants Nick two part or A.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into the Giants to see what we have

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Speaker 1: to say. About them, and b did you squats this morning?

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Speaker 1: So you can match sea Quon Barkley's legs when you

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Speaker 1: Mike's very smart, has a lot of experience, very good coach,

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Speaker 1: been in a good system in Kansas City, and then

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Speaker 1: Wink has been as good a defensive coordinators who's been

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Speaker 1: a very aggressive mindset, of very aggressive mentality, probably more

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Speaker 1: put them up there with Simmons Hargrave, some of the

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Speaker 1: lot of the situational elements as a team. It's a

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones the latest good example of Hey, you never

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Speaker 1: things that he does well, try to accentuate his strengths,

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Speaker 1: which he's just very deceptively athletic. He's faster than you

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of quarterback design runs, the zone reads,

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Speaker 1: good point. I mean, you do your legwork ahead of time,

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Speaker 1: and i'd say what you find as you step on campus.

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Speaker 1: Some programs and some people they're more inclined to talk

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Speaker 1: about certain players with the understanding, Okay, there's a good

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Speaker 1: chance his player is probably gonna make himself eligible at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. So you want to be

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Speaker 1: respectful of the colleges. You don't want to assume anything,

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Speaker 1: So you know, you don't want to do anything because

435
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Speaker 1: the relationship we have a lot of schools between the

436
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Speaker 1: NFL and the NCAA, we have a good relationship. So

437
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Speaker 1: you don't want to do anything, and that's sort of

438
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Speaker 1: you know, affects that relationship, So you want to be

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Speaker 1: smart about how you approach it. We can evaluate as

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Speaker 1: many players as we want, you know, because we watch

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Speaker 1: him play. And then once you get on campus, when

442
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Speaker 1: you get into situation where the liaison sits with a

443
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Speaker 1: group and he might say, hey, you know what, there's

444
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Speaker 1: a good chances player is probably going to declare, and

445
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Speaker 1: they might be more inclined you find some schools or

446
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Speaker 1: maybe more apt to talk about them other it's kind

447
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Speaker 1: of more taboo. So whatever it is, okay, We're not

448
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Speaker 1: going to try to make it up. We'll try to

449
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Speaker 1: do our job, do our due diligence, be prepared, and

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Speaker 1: whichever way it goes right. If he decides to go

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Speaker 1: back to school, no problem, then we have our evaluation

452
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Speaker 1: from the twenty two season, and then we're going to

453
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Speaker 1: build on a twenty three season. If he makes a

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Speaker 1: decision that he wants to declare, then we've done the

455
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Speaker 1: work all right, and then the evaluation is done from

456
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Speaker 1: a playing standpoint. Now we have to look into and

457
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Speaker 1: drill down some of the things more on a personal level,

458
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Speaker 1: which you really don't have the opportunity to do until

459
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Speaker 1: call it February in March. Well more for you? Is

460
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Speaker 1: there extra juice? And going to New York you see

461
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Speaker 1: the Manhattan skyline right there and nowhere in New Jersey,

462
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Speaker 1: but it's right there. It does it give you a

463
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Speaker 1: little extra in the game. Yeah, it's a great place

464
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Speaker 1: to play at Life Stadium. I mean, it's funny too

465
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Speaker 1: many stadiums where you have two teams that's their home stadium,

466
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Speaker 1: so they share at the Jets and a Giant, so

467
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Speaker 1: they'll make everything blue and white. They'll move away from

468
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Speaker 1: the green and you know whatever it colors the Jets

469
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Speaker 1: are were in these days. I mean, it's hard to stay.

470
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Speaker 1: So's good opportunity playing outdoors, which will be something we

471
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Speaker 1: haven't done here, you know since Jacksonville. But a different environment,

472
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Speaker 1: so the elements don't look like they'll be that big

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Speaker 1: of a factor. Going to the East Coast, you know

474
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Speaker 1: kind of you know, losing an hour or kind of

475
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Speaker 1: moving ahead an hour or whatever that is. So playing

476
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Speaker 1: day one o'clock. It'll be a nice fall day and

477
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Speaker 1: hopefully go out there and play good football against a

478
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Speaker 1: good team. Nick, thanks a lot, good luck. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm still a little ticked off Mark stole by rookie

480
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Speaker 1: slash draft question from Nick. That's my role, that's my role.

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Speaker 1: But I get it. It It was a good question, as

482
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Speaker 1: always in great stuff there from Nick Cassari speaking to Mark.

483
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Speaker 1: He's gonna stick with me next. We have not opined

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Speaker 1: I think together on the Jeff Saturday as in ram

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Speaker 1: head coach in Indianapolis situation. We'll do that next right

486
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Speaker 1: here in Texans All Access. Welcome back this Wednesday edition

487
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Speaker 1: of Texans All accesses. We're getting ready to take on

488
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Speaker 1: the g Men, the New York Giants in New Jersey,

489
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Speaker 1: which of course is the fallacy. You play in New York,

490
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Speaker 1: but you play in New Jersey. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Harris alongside Mark Vandermer. Mark. We I don't

492
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Speaker 1: think have had a ton of opportunity to discuss this

493
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Speaker 1: whole thing that's going on with Indianapolis. A few days

494
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Speaker 1: after the fact Indianapolis fire. Frank Rich, I think we

495
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Speaker 1: talked about the Frank right side of things, Yeah, but

496
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Speaker 1: the Jeff's Saturday side of things as the new interim

497
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Speaker 1: head coach for the Indiapolis Colts. I know we haven't

498
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Speaker 1: talked about this part because ed press conference. I think

499
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Speaker 1: at the same time that we were doing Coach Lovey

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Speaker 1: Show on Monday Night. Your gut reaction to Saturday becoming

501
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Speaker 1: the interim head coach Indiapolis, well, my gut and I

502
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Speaker 1: think we did discuss some of this. My gut reaction

503
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Speaker 1: is what that's my gut reaction because he's in broadcasting.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure when he got the phone call he admitted

505
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Speaker 1: he was totally shocked, surprise, whatever, And maybe he wants

506
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Speaker 1: to get into NFL coaching. But Johnny, I have this

507
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Speaker 1: thought about people who want to get into coaching that

508
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Speaker 1: maybe they should I don't know, coach, maybe you should

509
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Speaker 1: explore the possibility of taking a job in the NFL,

510
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Speaker 1: or college or some high level of coaching if you

511
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Speaker 1: have the credentials, especially because Jeff's Saturday has the credentials

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Speaker 1: to be assistant old line coach someplace, or offensive assistant

513
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Speaker 1: someplace who wouldn't want Saturday in their building. And I'll

514
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Speaker 1: say the same thing about Josh McCown, right, Josh McCown

515
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Speaker 1: certainly has the credentials to be assistant quarterbacks coach somewhere,

516
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Speaker 1: or quarterbacks coach or offensive assistant or something like that

517
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Speaker 1: where he could get experienced. Both guys get experience, and

518
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Speaker 1: then when there is an opportunity for advancement. I don't

519
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Speaker 1: know about a head coach advancement, but advancement nonetheless, you

520
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Speaker 1: can jump up. Now. It is a slap of the

521
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Speaker 1: phase to everybody who spends time in coaching, especially in

522
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Speaker 1: that building, because there are numerous people on that staff

523
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Speaker 1: who could have taken over, and we mentioned one of them,

524
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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne. Right there, Reggie Wayne is right in front

525
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Speaker 1: of you, Bubba Ventrone. Look, Gus Bradley has done it.

526
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's the best option necessarily, but

527
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Speaker 1: he's done it. He's actually done it. You could ride

528
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Speaker 1: out the season now. I salute or at the same

529
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Speaker 1: time also for thinking out of the box. But this

530
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Speaker 1: is the kind of out of the box that has Look,

531
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Speaker 1: how much more of a disaster could it be? I

532
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Speaker 1: was going to say it has disaster written all over it.

533
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Speaker 1: It's the out of the box that might not be

534
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Speaker 1: the good kind of out of the box, right, maybe

535
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Speaker 1: try it in the off season or something really wild

536
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Speaker 1: and different in the off season as opposed to now,

537
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Speaker 1: I think one of the things. And it's interesting because

538
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Speaker 1: this happens with It happens with a lot of players.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think that guy would be really great in

540
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Speaker 1: the media. Oh I think that guy would be a

541
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Speaker 1: really great coach. Oh yeah, Oh, I think that guy

542
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Speaker 1: could rise up the ranks and be a great scout

543
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Speaker 1: and maybe a GM down the road. We say that

544
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Speaker 1: about about players a lot of times because they exhibit

545
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Speaker 1: those qualities, Like, you know, there's a guy that you

546
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Speaker 1: know the locker room that is loquacious and very outgoing

547
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Speaker 1: and really answers questions thoughtfully and honestly. But he could

548
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Speaker 1: be really he could be really good in the media.

549
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Speaker 1: And we have seen a lot of athletes get into

550
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Speaker 1: the media. We've seen a lot of them getting into coaching,

551
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Speaker 1: a lot of them getting scouting, etc. But there are

552
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Speaker 1: also a large number of them that get in it

553
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Speaker 1: and go WHOA, I thought all I had to do

554
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Speaker 1: was just talk or I thought coach easy. I just

555
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: dropped the excess and os and give them the plays

556
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Speaker 1: in the way you go, you know, scouting, I just

557
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: pick a player here and player there, and they don't realize, man,

558
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: there is some laborious work that goes into this. It

559
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Speaker 1: is laborious and it's I remember when I first got

560
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Speaker 1: into radio. You're thinking about doing radio. I've thought about

561
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Speaker 1: doing it for a long time. I'd see my friends

562
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Speaker 1: do it, So you do it. I heard a lot

563
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Speaker 1: of people do it. Then you do your first four

564
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Speaker 1: hour show and you're like, oh, man, that was great,

565
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Speaker 1: and you're I was exhausted. Yeah, and guess what, that's

566
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Speaker 1: a Monday. Ye get ready because you got four more

567
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Speaker 1: the rest of the week, and you're like, wow, man,

568
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of work that goes into this. And

569
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Speaker 1: the same same for coaching. Everybody that walks into this

570
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Speaker 1: stadium on Thursday night, just take Thursday night for instance.

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Speaker 1: Every single one of them, Oh, I could call that

572
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Speaker 1: play or I could call this play, And you have

573
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Speaker 1: no idea what goes into it. Sure none, And even

574
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Speaker 1: former players don't really truly know until they get into it.

575
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Speaker 1: And so Jeff Saturday is gonna find out, Holy smokes,

576
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Speaker 1: there is a lot that goes into it, and you

577
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Speaker 1: find out I want this do I not do? I

578
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Speaker 1: want to pursue. This is Indianapolis going to give him

579
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to be the permanent head coach going forward,

580
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Speaker 1: depending on what happens. I don't I don't see that happening,

581
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Speaker 1: but I don't know. But that's the one thing that

582
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Speaker 1: that strikes me about this what's coaching? And I'm and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that, as Jim Mercy said, he's seen a

584
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Speaker 1: lot of great head coaches. He's never hired a bad

585
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Speaker 1: or losing head coach. But there are always some coaches

586
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Speaker 1: that you're like, hmm, that guy doesn't quite have it.

587
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: You know, he was good with players, but there's so

588
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Speaker 1: many other aspects that go into it. And how Jeff

589
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: Saturday is gonna be it's gonna be really interesting. Look,

590
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Speaker 1: he might be great, but he needs work, right. This

591
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: is hard to do on the fly, on the job training.

592
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Speaker 1: And they fired the coordinator yes the week before, so

593
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Speaker 1: now you don't have anybody to call plays except Parks

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Speaker 1: Frazier and Johnny. I'm gonna say this, the Saturday Cam

595
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: is gonna be must see TV for de right, no doubt.

596
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Speaker 1: But the Parks Frasier cam might even be better because

597
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Speaker 1: if you focus it on Parks Frasier who has never

598
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Speaker 1: called plays, and he's got Sam Ellinger to call plays for.

599
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Speaker 1: This is going to be interesting. If I were him,

600
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Speaker 1: I would take that Denny's menu and shrink it down

601
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Speaker 1: to an index card and go coach Boone from Remember

602
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Speaker 1: the Titans. We're gonna run five plays and we're gonna

603
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Speaker 1: master them, and we're gonna spend the rest of the

604
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Speaker 1: week in practice mastering five plays. It is not important

605
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Speaker 1: for Parks to show how much he knows. Yeah, it

606
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: is important that the offense moves the football. Yeah, That's

607
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Speaker 1: what most important for him, and that's what gets lost

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Speaker 1: on everybody. Actually, until you do it. You want to

609
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Speaker 1: have the best ball play, you want to call the

610
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Speaker 1: coolest ball plays, and then you realize, I don't really

611
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Speaker 1: care about that. Are we moving the football? And that's

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Speaker 1: really when I when I got to a point where

613
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Speaker 1: I was calling plays and really was getting in a groove,

614
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: that was what was happening. It was like I got

615
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: this whole I did the same thing, the same thing

616
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Speaker 1: you just talked about. I had a minill fold or

617
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: filled both front and back with all these great plays

618
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: that I had seen other people run, and we couldn't

619
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Speaker 1: run eighty percent of them. So I'm like, well, let's

620
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: take the eighty percent off and see what we got.

621
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Speaker 1: And then once we get those down, let's have a little,

622
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: you know, a few wrinkles. Now that's high school versus NFL.

623
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Speaker 1: I get that, but it's the same philosophy of you

624
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: gotta call what works. Nobody's gonna care about. Man, that

625
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: was a really cool scheme. That was awesome. It's not

626
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: going to matter because if that play results in a yard,

627
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: who cares. It's nobody's gonna care. As you were talking

628
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: about jobs that everyone thinks they can do until they

629
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Speaker 1: do them. Talk radio is a great example, perfect and

630
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Speaker 1: I always tell people this, and people can try this themselves.

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Speaker 1: By the way, listening right now, you're thinking I want

632
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Speaker 1: to do that. Look, that's how I got into the business.

633
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Speaker 1: I listened to sports talk radio and said I want

634
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Speaker 1: to get on the air and do that, and I

635
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: found a way to do it. It's another story for

636
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: another day. But try this in your cars, folks. You

637
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: think you have hot takes, Okay, look at your clock.

638
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: Set it for three to five minutes. Give yourself a

639
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Speaker 1: time limit. Let's say it's three minutes. You're gonna talk

640
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Speaker 1: for three minutes straight, buy yourself about a topic, and

641
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: you're live. No starting over, no stopping and restarting, just go.

642
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: You are live. Hit it three minutes consecutively. See what

643
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: you can do, and you'll learn very quickly how difficult

644
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: it is just doing it in your car by yourself,

645
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: because at about one thirty you'll be like, I think

646
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm out of material now, you know, and you probably

647
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: do have a lot of takes. Maybe they're really good takes,

648
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: maybe they're excellent takes, but you could be out of

649
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: juice within five minutes. That's why some callers are excellent

650
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: for two to three minutes, but you put them on

651
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: for four hours and it's like when's dinner. So it's

652
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: very difficult. It's much more difficult than people realize to

653
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: do that. How much you want to bet first drive

654
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: of the game and they play the Raiders, they're out

655
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. How much you want to bet first

656
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: drive of the game that they face a fourth and one? Oh?

657
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: And what do they do? Exact? Saturday said that he

658
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: Saturday said, Nah, I'm not so much in the analytics.

659
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: I've sworked down. I am going to kick a field

660
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: goal and take the points. If you're at the thirty

661
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: seven yard line of the opponent, okay, you're a no

662
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: man's land. Too long for a field even let's make

663
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: it a little bit more interest exactly. You're at the

664
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: thirty five, Okay, it's gonna be a fifty three yarder.

665
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: I promise you it's gonna be the first. Or you

666
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: go for it fourth and one. You're not gonna punt

667
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: from the thirty five thirty six yard line? What are

668
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Jeff right and so I guarantee it's

669
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: happening within the first two drives of the game. He's

670
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna have one of those situations and he's gonna have

671
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: to make that particular decisions. And even as a non

672
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: play caller on either side of the ball. As a

673
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: head coach, there's so many different things that are going on.

674
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: How much do you chime in on the offensive channel

675
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: when they're talking about plays. How much do you listen

676
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: in on the defensive channel and chime in there? What

677
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: do you do on fourth down? All these things that

678
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work out for himself, and how

679
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: he viewed it as a center as a player is

680
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna be different. Than how he's looking at it now.

681
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't have Peyton manning back there to go, hey, pay,

682
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: let's just run this, or let's throw this, or they

683
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: throw out the start out to Marvin. Hey, Marvin's out there,

684
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: Let's give it the edge. It doesn't quite work. Work

685
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: that way, throw to Marvin. So I'm curious, but I

686
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: guarantee you within the first two drives of the game,

687
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: he'll be forced with a fourth and one. I'll give

688
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: you another one guaranteed. Give me the overrunder on how

689
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: many delay of games and or gotta call a time

690
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: out with the playclock running down situations they have so

691
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: both count as the same. How many of those do

692
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: they have throughout the course of it. You'll have a couple.

693
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: But I would imagine that if there is one thing

694
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: Saturday is telling his young offensive coordinator doing it for

695
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: the first time, get the play call, no matter what,

696
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: getting to play. In fact, that would be something that

697
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: I would suggest to every offensive play car. I don't

698
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: know how long you've been in it, get the play

699
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: call to your guy with twenty seconds, I'm sorry, get

700
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: them out of the huddle with twenty seconds at a minimum. Yeah,

701
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: left on the clock. We started playing with fire a

702
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: little bit with the with the Eagles, we're getting out

703
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: of the huddle at twelve eleven seconds. That's got to

704
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: get to your quarterback and out there so you can

705
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: see what you're looking at. If you got motions or

706
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: shifts or whatever you got going, you've got to get

707
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: them out of the huddle, get them out of the

708
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: huddle and go. And that's I would imagine that number

709
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: is going to be relatively low. That's gonna be one

710
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: of the things if i'm Saturday, it's one of the

711
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: first things. Look, here's your time frame. Get the play

712
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: called immediately, get them to lie of scrimmage. Even if

713
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage you got until fifteen seconds

714
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: on the coach com right, if you get them to

715
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage with twenty eight seconds left, you

716
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: still have thirteen seconds for you to look at it

717
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: and then tell Sam, hey change this play to this.

718
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: Then the coach com goes off, you still have time

719
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: to get everybody adjustin shifted as they were. If they win,

720
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, look they're playing the Raiders. The Raiders are

721
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: a damaged team the way the Colts win, And I

722
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: don't know if Jonathan Taylor will play. That'll be That'll be.

723
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: The way they win is if they're able to ride

724
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, because without Taylor, I don't know what they're

725
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna do. They're gonna have to rely on Sam Ellinger.

726
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: So from the Raiders, I'm playing nine guys in the

727
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: box and like I'm daring him to throw, I am

728
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: daring him to throw. But if they have Taylor, they

729
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: got a shot. Let's Taylor. They have a shot. But

730
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: you're right, if they what if they win? The worst

731
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: thing about all of this is with the Colts going

732
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: through this, and this is bad for them. You know,

733
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: say what you will, Jim Er say. Look, they've had

734
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: a tremendous run with Peyton Manning Andrew Luck a little bit.

735
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: They were even holding it together with Jacobe Brisett right,

736
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: holding it together a little bit. They went to the

737
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: playoffs with Philip Rivers. They were than a game of

738
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: making the playoffs last year, and now look where they

739
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: are and I don't know what it's gonna turn out

740
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: to be for them. And the Texans will finish up

741
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: the regular season up there in January, so I'm really

742
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to that one as much as effort to

743
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: see how you can how they'll look at that time

744
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: and what the Texans are gonna look like at that time.

745
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: But the fact that the Texans are struggling even more

746
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: record wise than the Colts just it's it's a hard

747
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: pill to swallow right now. But I know they're in

748
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: different stages of development, obviously, no doubt. And what I

749
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: find interesting the Colts have been struggling to find that

750
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: quarterback and obviously Matt Ryan. And there's been a lot

751
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: of talk about whether Chris Ballder Frank Wrych pulled the

752
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: trigger on Matt Ryan. That was a gym or so

753
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: people signed up for it, Johnny. Most of the pundits, no, no, no, no, no,

754
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: they were like, okay, no, I'm not talking about I

755
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: don't I think if if they if they allowed Matt

756
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Ryan to play, I still think they could get to

757
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: eight wins. Oh really, Okay, I still think you could

758
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: get to eight wins. Now, if they get Taylor healthy

759
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan we're back. I still think they could

760
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: get to eight wins. But they're not gonna play Matt Ryan.

761
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: And that was that was not ballad or Reich's call.

762
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: That was going down a road. No, no, no, no, no, no,

763
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have gotten them. No. I don't think going

764
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: out of getting Matt Ryan was it was a bad move. Actually,

765
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: I think it made sense. It made sense twenty hindsight.

766
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: I think the issue is if Matt Ryan were still playing,

767
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I still think they would be competitive. But for some

768
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: reason they were instructed not to play Matt Ryan, to

769
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: go that Ellinger and where you go? Now? Going with Ryan,

770
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: it's next year, it's not You're not gonna do that question.

771
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: But let me ask you one more thing before you

772
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: make your other point. Let's rewind a bit here. Offseason,

773
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: you're the Colts. Do you go get Garoppolo? I'm telling

774
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: you right now, Matt Ryan's not gonna work. We can't

775
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: get him, or he's not. It's not gonna happen. For

776
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: whatever reason, would Garoppolo be an option for the Colts? Yes,

777
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: remember when Baker Mayfield was on at least the national

778
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: media's radar for the Colts. But I don't know what

779
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: it costs you to get Garoppolo. What are they going

780
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: to give him up for? Ye? I think he probably

781
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: could have got him for a little less than Matt Ryan. Actually,

782
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: But but I don't know, but you didn't know at

783
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: that time, and this is where the Colts were. You

784
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: didn't know whether Jimmy was gonna come back fully completely healthy.

785
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: He thought he might, but I think Garoppolo would have

786
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: given you a better chance. You know why, because Jimmy

787
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: could move. And that offensive line is not playing extremely well.

788
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Evenquing Nelson and Ryan Kelly are not playing extremely well.

789
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: And we saw it in week one. We're like, wait

790
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: a second, this offensive line is playing a lot better

791
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: than they're playing right now. And they've never had the

792
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: rough tackle answered after Costanzo left. That to me, everybody

793
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: talks about Andrew Luck retiring, everydy Luck retiring, and for

794
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: good reason, but they never replaced Costanzo. Now they drafted

795
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Bran Ryman out of in Central Michigan. He's not ready.

796
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: He was not He's not ready. He needed to sit

797
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: for at least a year and get to a point

798
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: where he could be ready. He wasn't ready. So the

799
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: offensive line is not played extremely well. So Jimmy gives

800
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: him a chance because Jimmy can at least get out

801
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: of dodge. He could scramble and make some things happen,

802
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: whereas Matt is not that's not his that's not his Ballulywick.

803
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: So would I have done it if I knew or

804
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: felt good about Jimmy's rehab, Like, Okay, I think he

805
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: can make it back by week one, I would have

806
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: done that if you're telling me Matt Ryan. Would I

807
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: still think Matt Ryan for them has not played extremely well.

808
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: But if you let Matt Ryan just keep going, get

809
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor back, I think they still would have gotten

810
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to seven eight wins. And maybe that's where they don't

811
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: want to be. Maybe they either want to be in

812
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: the playoff hunt or they want to suck either way

813
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: one or the other. Okay, maybe they're seven eight win land,

814
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: which is not where they want to be because now

815
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: they're just back in mediocre land. I don't know, but

816
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: for some reason, they were instructed Matt Ryan's not going

817
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: to be the quarterback. So here's the thing about them, though,

818
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: they've been to mediocre land before and they've come out

819
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: of it with a really good team, at least on paper,

820
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: or a playoff team, and it was a team that

821
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people projected should do great things as

822
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: long as they get that quarterback position solidified. Because they

823
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: went through Chuck Pogano eight and eight a couple of

824
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: years in a row, and had to fight to get there.

825
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: And look, I thought those were pretty decent coaching jobs

826
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: by Chuck considering what they did or did not have it.

827
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Those teams did not have talent like this Colt's team.

828
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: And again, Skilaner has played a lot because he's been

829
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: banged up. Jonathan Taylor has missed a lot of this season,

830
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: and those are two of the best players to have

831
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: and you can't take advantage of it. That's the thing.

832
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: It's funny because people were talking to me about the

833
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: Colts and I forget where I was, but I was saying, yeah,

834
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: they're the all time nemesis because as bad as it

835
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: is for them right now, and they haven't won this

836
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 1: division since twenty fourteen, which is incredible to think about,

837
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: but as bad as it is for them right now,

838
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: you still have that terrible record against them, nine thirty

839
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: one and one, right is that what it is now?

840
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: And thirty two if you haven't the playoff loss, but

841
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: whatever the case is. And Tennessee right now, they're sort

842
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: of the class of the AFC South. You beat them

843
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: last year when you were almost the worst version of yourselves.

844
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: You came away with a victory in Nashville. You can

845
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: beat those guys. But for some reason, the Colts have

846
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: that hex on the Texans, and you gotta find a

847
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: way to reverse the curse. Yeah. Well, we'll see obviously

848
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: what happens with the Colts. And you know, if they

849
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: continue to bottom out top five pick they get a quarterback,

850
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: we'll see where they picked the right quarterback. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know when Ballard went to the Colts, he was

852
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: looking for a place he had a quarterback and with

853
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck there it was set up. It was set

854
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: up to. I mean, after the twenty eighteen season, I thought,

855
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be really, really difficult to beat.

856
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: And you know, for Ballard at the time, when McDaniels

857
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: bowed out, thought, okay, Frank Wright comes in, they go

858
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Everything's looking good. They beat the Texans

859
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: here and everyone says, you dodge that Josh McDaniel's bullet.

860
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Here they are today, a few years later. It's amazing.

861
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: And look, it could have happened to the Titans too.

862
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: Things Derek Henry could have gotten hurt. Oh my gosh,

863
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback situations if he had best man. I think

864
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: if they had healthy Tannahill right now, they're winning at

865
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City on Sunday night, and yet Henry got hurt

866
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: last year and they still without him. They were a

867
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Speaker 1: number one overall AFC team because they are handling things

868
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: well as an organization, and that's where you want to

869
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: be right now, handling things well. And I think the

870
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Texans are set up well, but they're behind them in development. Mark,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thanks Shouning. All right, coming up,

872
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: let's go round the league and talk about things happening

873
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Speaker 1: with all thirty two teams. Next right here in Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. What's up everybody? Walking back to Wednesday edition

875
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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football

876
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: and a a sideline reporter. Let's go around the NFL and

877
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Speaker 1: starting Buffalo where. Oh boy, if you have Josh Allen

878
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: on your fantasy team, this is a wait in c

879
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: situation with Josh and his elbow. If you missed it

880
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: against the Jets, he made a throw and after the

881
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: throw he reached immediately for his elbow. Now he ended

882
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: up making a throw way down the field. I think

883
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: after that, well, apparently it's an elbow sprain of the

884
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: ucl Now you hear a lot of that, I guess

885
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: in baseball. But Sean mcderry, Buffalo coach, said he's day

886
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: to day. Will he play this weekend against the Vikings?

887
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: How about that? That's a heck of a matchup. Sean

888
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: McDermott said, we'll see whether he is there. So if

889
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen or your fantasy team, Josh Allen

890
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's quarterback. Now Jacksonville Jaguars ed drusher Josh Allen,

891
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: But if you got Josh Allen, keep an eye on him.

892
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: Case Keenum took snaps today in practice throwing too. Stefan

893
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: Diggs both members of the Vikings for the Minneapolis Miracle

894
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, So Josh Allen to keep an

895
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: eye on that one. Russell Wilson really clapped back a

896
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Pete Carroll on seven in Seattle had mentioned

897
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: that they didn't use the wrist band back when a

898
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: certain quarterback was there because it was not comfortable, didn't

899
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: like it. You know, Smith has been using it and

900
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: it's really helped in Pete Carroll's mind. Well, Russell Wilson

901
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: clapped back and said, I don't exactly what he said.

902
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: But we won a lot of games without one on

903
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: the risk. So Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll clapping

904
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: back at one another, I kind of like get a

905
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: little bit. I kind of like it seems like Pete

906
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Carroll's a great guy, Russell Wilson's a great guy. But

907
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: they're snapping at each other a little bit. I thought

908
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's comments more about not so much the wrist band,

909
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: but the fact that his offs cordinayor is Shane waldron

910
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: calls a play, do you know this quarterback takes it?

911
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: They go run it. There's no barking back at each other,

912
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: there is no pushing back. It is here's the play,

913
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna run, and we're gonna run it.

914
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: That I thought was a little more damning about Russell Wilson.

915
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: But either way, play the headlines for what they are.

916
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: But Russell Wilson has not I've been back on the

917
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: field since they went to London, so we'll see what

918
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: the Broncos have. But he did clap back today at

919
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll about that. Your Thursday night game is Atlanta v. Carolina,

920
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: and Carolina is gonna be wearing the black, all black,

921
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 1: all black unis in that one. So it's weird because

922
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: the NFC South, nobody's out of it. Nobody. Atlanta Falcons

923
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: are four and five and they're tied with the Bucks

924
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: at four and five atop the division. They're not out

925
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: of Carolina's not out of it. Two and seven. In fact,

926
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: take Carolina beating Atlanta two weeks ago, Carolina would have

927
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: been first place in the AFC South and the NFC South,

928
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: So it's kind of crazy division. But that game will

929
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: be on Thursday, Atlanta taking on Carolina. But our game

930
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: is Sunday against the New York Giants. And the two

931
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: men making the call, Mark Vandamir and Bob Popa get

932
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: together with a little menu out of Mike's Next right

933
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: here in Texas All Access. Oh yeah, we got one

934
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Speaker 1: hour down and one hour left to go, right here

935
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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday at Nation of Texans All Access. I'm

936
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, football Analyst, and I have the

937
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: pleasure of each and every Sunday having Mark Vandamir and

938
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: good friend Audrey Ware both in my ears the entire time. Well,

939
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: I know, Giants fans, I've been listening to our next

940
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: guest for a long time, and that's Bob Poppy here

941
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: on series Sex Sam sometimes in the morning, but here

942
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: him calling Giants game and that the voice is just

943
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: so recognizable with Giants football and when it's met behind

944
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: the Mike's time. I love it. Mark with Bob Poppa

945
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants. Bob, how's it going great

946
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: season for you so far? Yeah, it's been a surprise. Mark,

947
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: great to be on with you. You know, I don't

948
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: think any Giants fan, I don't think there's people in

949
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: the building that thought this team would be six and

950
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: two coming out of the buy. But that's where they

951
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: stand and they've actually put themselves in position here to

952
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: maybe even make the playoffs. Well, yeah, let's talk about

953
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: what's going right. Say Quon Barkley has to jump out first?

954
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Or is it the play of Daniel Jones. I know

955
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: the coaching staff's making a huge difference, but can you

956
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: rank these things in order as to what the difference

957
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: is for the New York Giants in twenty twenty two. Yeah,

958
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: the star with sae Quon Barkley, And you know we

959
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: noticed in camp, during training camp practices he was a

960
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: lot more physical. And Carl Banks and I, who do

961
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: a lot of work with the head coach on the

962
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: various radio and TV platforms, that we're asking them one

963
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: day in camp and you said, you know, one of

964
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: the things that we stressed to sae Quon is, you know,

965
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: take the dirty two. Take the dirty two, take the

966
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: dirty three, meaning you know, if there's nothing really there,

967
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: don't try to hit a home run. Keep us on schedule,

968
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: and two or three yards on first down is not

969
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Two or three yards on second down

970
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. It keeps us on schedule

971
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: to the n be able to function as an offense

972
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: because they don't have tremendous playmakers. And they told Barkley

973
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: and they promised them, they said, sae Quon, if you

974
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: just keep taking the dirty two, at some point during

975
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: the game, one's gonna pop and you're gonna have a

976
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 1: big play. And that's happened just about every single week.

977
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: That's tremendous, and that's great advice. Even for quarterbacks. Take

978
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: the pocket, change the four or five yard pass from

979
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: time to time. What's the difference with Daniel Joe as

980
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: you see it through half the season. Well, first of

981
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: all Barkley being healthy, and then a coaching staff that

982
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: knows how to use him and has coached him really well.

983
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: He's picked up this new offense, he's picked up this scheme.

984
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: He's getting better and better on it. I think, you know,

985
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: there's a lot of false narratives out there about Daniel Jones. Obviously,

986
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: his legs in his athleticism are very key components to

987
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: what he can do on the football field. But his

988
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: decision making. I know privately, the head coach and this

989
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: entire football staff has been very impressed with Daniel Jones

990
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: and his ability to make good decisions. You know, you

991
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: put on ESPN or you put on NFL Network and

992
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: you have you know, former players showing video, showing coaches tape,

993
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, Daniel Jones has to be

994
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: better with his eye discipline. There's guys running open and

995
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: he's not seeing him. He's taking the checkdown well, other

996
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: than the fourth quarter of the Seattle game last week

997
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: where he didn't see the field, well, he's actually seen

998
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: the field great. And his Dabel said to me, he said,

999
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, I said to him, I said, coach, you know,

1000
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, I said, man it looks like

1001
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: there was a little bit more left on the bone

1002
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: there that you guys could have gotten. And he's like, uh,

1003
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: because it sounds just like my family. He goes, you

1004
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: know some of those guys that are running open that

1005
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about that Daniel's missing. I said, yeah. He goes, well,

1006
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: how about the fact that those guys were running wrong

1007
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: routes and they weren't even supposed to be in the window.

1008
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: So how does he know if the guy's going to

1009
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: continue on a deep over or a shallow a cross

1010
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: wherever he's gonna just stop and sit down when he's

1011
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: running the wrong damn route. So Daniel Jones has done

1012
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot better than his passing numbers and what the

1013
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: outside world may evaluate him. With Bob pop, a voice

1014
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants with us on Texans Radio,

1015
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 1: what about Dabel what's he like to be around since

1016
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: you've seen him come into the building. He's authentic, he's real,

1017
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: he cares. He spends a lot of time in the

1018
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: cafeteriat lunchtime. You know, he'll sit with players, or he'll

1019
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: sit with some of his staff members or front office people,

1020
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: or you know John Mara or the Mara family that's there.

1021
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: But then other times he'll walk into the cafeteria with

1022
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: his plate food and he'll sit with the marketing department,

1023
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: or he'll sit with the broadcast production crew, or he'll

1024
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: sit with digital content, or he'll sit with you know, salespeople.

1025
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: And he's really made it a point of trying to

1026
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: get to know what everybody does in the building, getting

1027
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: to know everybody by name, and making everybody understand that

1028
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: we're all in this together. Even if you don't necessarily

1029
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: touch football, you're part of the same organization that's trying

1030
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: to win. And he's just a regular guy, to his

1031
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: credit for a guy that's worked as long as he

1032
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: did under Belichick and as long you know, he worked

1033
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: the one year with Sabin, but that's like working with Belichick.

1034
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: He did not try to become Belichick or Saban like

1035
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: so many of the other disciples that suddenly put on

1036
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: the I'm Bill Belichicker, I'm Bill Parcel's act without the

1037
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: resume to be that guy. Dave's is just Daves. He

1038
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: wants you to call him Dave's. He can't stand it

1039
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: when you call him coach Dable. It's like, dude, I'm

1040
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: Dave's okay, and that's it, and that permeates not only

1041
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: throughout the locker room, but throughout the organization. I gotta

1042
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: think having Link Martindale around is one of the smartest

1043
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: hires because he takes care of the defense, right, Davil

1044
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about it. How do you see it? Well,

1045
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the other You know, a veteran head

1046
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: coach told me once a long time ago, you're only

1047
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: as good as your staff. And if you're a young coach,

1048
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: when they would mentor young head coaches, their biggest advice

1049
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: would be, don't be scared to hire people that are

1050
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: big personalities, that are veteran coaches, because too many times

1051
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: young coaches don't want to bring in those guys because

1052
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: they're scared that they're basically hiring a ready made replacement

1053
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: if you fail. Sean McVeigh did a great job with

1054
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: the Rams when he first got the job. What did

1055
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: he do He hired Wade Phillips, a veteran proven defensive

1056
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: coordinator run his defense. Dable didn't even know Wink Martindale.

1057
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: They had they had, their pasts had never crossed. But

1058
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: Dabl said, look in all my years as a play caller.

1059
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: His defense gave me the biggest fits. Let me find

1060
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: out what he's all about. And he's brought in people

1061
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: within the organization that are not just robots from the

1062
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: Belichick camp or from this camp and they just parrot

1063
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: the same stuff. He's brought in people with different ideas,

1064
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: like his offensive coordinator Mike Kafka, who comes from the

1065
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: Andy Reid tree, you know. So they kind of sprinkled

1066
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: things around a little bit. So it's more of an

1067
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: open think tank. Boy, that sounds good. That sounds really interesting.

1068
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith has been talking about the fact that the

1069
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Giants are gonna blitz the Texans more than any other team.

1070
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: How blitz heavy and blitz happy have they been so far?

1071
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Is that a key factor in their success? It has been.

1072
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: But wink Martindale, uh sometimes will not blitz a lot.

1073
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: You know. I think we all know that when you

1074
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: go against the veteran upper tier quarterbacks, the Peyton Mannings,

1075
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady, the Drew Breezes of the world, you know,

1076
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: if you brit blitz them like crazy, they're gonna eat

1077
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: you alive because they can read it, they could see it.

1078
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: They've been there, done that they know what's coming, they

1079
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: know how to handle it. Now, Wink will dial up

1080
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: a blitz at the right time, like he did against

1081
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Packers in London, and he'll he'll

1082
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: pick his spots. But there's a lot of other times

1083
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: where they're gonna just play coverage and they're gonna try

1084
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: to create ways with just five to get to the quarterback.

1085
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: But I think in this case, you know, like with

1086
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: a young quarterback like Davis Mills, Um, yeah, I think

1087
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw a lot of exotic looks at him

1088
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: and try to confuse him. All right, let me go

1089
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: a little history with you here, Bob Bob popap Voice

1090
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: of the Giants with us on Texans Radio, more beloved

1091
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: former Giants quarterback Eli Manning or Phil Simms. What do

1092
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: you got? That's an age thing, Man, That is clearly

1093
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: an age thing. I think if you're if you're of

1094
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: a certain age there there there are some that will

1095
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: never move off. Phil Simms. I mean, look, you asked

1096
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: my dad, He's gonna tell you why a tittle? So,

1097
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it kind of goes by generation. Um.

1098
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: They were both great in their own right. They were

1099
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: both phenomenal players. Eli is going to get in the

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00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame someday, although I doubt he'll be a

1101
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: first ballot, and Phil Simms should probably be in the

1102
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but he won't. But I think you know,

1103
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: no matter how you slice it, you can't go wrong

1104
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: having those two quarterbacks as part of your franchise history.

1105
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: All right, let me stir up a rivalry here. You

1106
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: went to Fordham, So Fordham sports announcers versus Syracuse sports announcers.

1107
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: You tell me who's better. Go ahead, started off, Bob'll

1108
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: come on, it's Fordham. I mean, listen, Sherrek's Sarak Hughes

1109
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: has a great history with my mentor, Marty Glickman and

1110
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: Marv Albert and all the guys that are doing tremendous

1111
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: work now to Rico, Ian Eagle and saw On and

1112
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: so forth. But you know, Fordham, you know we got

1113
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: Vince Scully, we got Charles osgood when you go to

1114
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: the new side of things, and then you got Mike

1115
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Breen and Michael Kay and Chris Karina with the Nats,

1116
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: and Spirodidas and Tony really of uh you know ESPN

1117
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: with you know the Game show and there's a lot

1118
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: of us out there, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know,

1119
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be partial and go with Fordham. All right,

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Speaker 1: very nice, Bob, Papa joining us. Now you've called boxing golf.

1121
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: You've done it all. Bob, tell me what's difficult about

1122
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: calling boxing. You gotta remember you're doing TV right, and

1123
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: then you pick your spot when you get into the

1124
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: heavy play by play. But like you don't have to

1125
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: call every job, you don't have to call every right

1126
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: hand that gets missed or blocked or whatever, because guess what,

1127
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: two people on the ring. The ring is a square.

1128
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: It's not like this stuff going on away from the ball.

1129
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: Everybody could see what's going on, and you try to

1130
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: pick your analysts brain and lead them into what they

1131
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: see and how it may manifest itself later in the fight.

1132
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: And then when you get to those aha moments, that's

1133
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: when you go in and you do your call. Now

1134
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: with golf, is that utter mayhem going on that people

1135
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: don't see behind the scenes in the truck? Because I

1136
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: always think with golf, you know every other sport, virtually

1137
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 1: you're calling a game with one ball or one puck

1138
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. Boxing it's two guys with golf, it's a

1139
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: lot of different balls and players in different places and

1140
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 1: things like that. What's that like for you? Yeah, that's

1141
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: basically eighteen football fields happening at once. For us as announcers,

1142
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, doing it on television, it's you know, you're

1143
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: just taking your cues from your producer and your directors

1144
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: getting you the shots. Now it's all hell on the

1145
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: truck because you've got a spotter for the producer, sir.

1146
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Especially when we do college golf at Golf Channel, which

1147
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: we've become, you know, that's become a big franchise for us,

1148
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: the men's and women's NCAA's and all these tournaments that

1149
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: we're doing during the course of the year. Because it's

1150
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: one thing to do a golf tournament and for the

1151
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: producer to look up and say, Hi, Tiger Wood second

1152
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: at three and then we're gonna go to Rory's, you know,

1153
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: fourth at the par five eighth, where as opposed to

1154
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: a college golf event where you're looking up and you're like,

1155
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: all right, is that Pearson Cooty or is that Parker Cooty?

1156
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Is this the freshman that transferred in in the portal

1157
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: for Texas or who's this guy? And which guy is

1158
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: that on A and M? And which guy is this

1159
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: on Oklahoma State? And who's this kid from Oregon. That's

1160
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: a whole that's that's being in the truck for that

1161
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: as a scene. Interesting. Bob popa voice of the New

1162
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: York Giants with us on Texans Radio. A couple more

1163
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: for you. All right, So in New York the football

1164
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: teams are doing well now, Giants, Jets having good seasons

1165
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: so far. The football team's king of New York? Or

1166
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: do the Yankees still have that title? How have things

1167
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: evolved over the last ten twenty years, Bob, baseball will

1168
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: always be king in New York when you get to

1169
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: the jet of winter or in the spring. You know,

1170
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: on the on the all talk stations, baseball is always

1171
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 1: the hottest topic. It is. It's just it is. It's

1172
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, I would say the Yankees are definitely number

1173
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: one in town. I would say the Mets are second,

1174
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: with the Giants probably A two A, and then you

1175
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: get the Jets, and then it becomes the Knicks and

1176
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: the Rangers and everything else kind of falls in the line.

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00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: In college basketball is huge in New York. College football,

1178
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was telling some friends I

1179
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: was watching the Georgia Tennessee game in Florida this weekend

1180
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: and one of my buddies is at Georgia grad and

1181
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: and then they were all fired up to Florida State,

1182
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: Miami LSU Alabama that night. And I'm like, you guys,

1183
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: realize in New York this might get a two rating.

1184
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get it too, probably a one five. Nobody cares.

1185
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: And they're like, really, I'm like, it's all about pros

1186
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: where we are so m you know, I would think

1187
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: the Giants are like a two a right behind the

1188
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Mets in the in the pantheon, because you know, the

1189
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: Giants and Jets are lucky. Why when they've had these

1190
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: bad seasons the last five years and things are awful,

1191
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 1: and they're both like almost eliminated by Halloween. Well, as

1192
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: long as the Yankees are making a run and they're

1193
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: in the postseason, you know, the Giants and Jets could

1194
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: lose thirty five to three each weekend, but it all

1195
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: depends on what the Yankees did that day. And once

1196
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: the Yankees are eliminated, then the football teams lose their

1197
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: cover cover. I like that word. Tell me NFC East

1198
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. We just saw the Eagles

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00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: here last Thursday night. They're the only unbeaten team in

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: the league. We know what the Cowboys are doing. Giving

1201
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the division moving forward down the stretch here, well,

1202
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, you always defer to the only team that's

1203
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: undefeated in the league, and Philadelphia is really good. The

1204
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: quarterback has you know, he's passing every test that they

1205
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: laid out for him in jail and hurts because they

1206
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: came into the season with a wait and see approach

1207
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: as to whether he's truly going to be their future.

1208
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: They've added a lot of pieces in free agency and

1209
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: via the trade, but I still think the Cowboys. I

1210
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are still going to have to be

1211
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: reckoned with, especially if they wind up adding Odell Beckhams

1212
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: Junior to their team. Their defense is outstanding. You know,

1213
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: Dak was hurt Cooper Rush held the fort and then

1214
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: Dak basically had you know, two extra preseason games playing

1215
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: the Bears and the Lions coming off the thumb injury

1216
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: and then the buy to kind of get up to speed.

1217
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: I still think the Cowboys are a team that's going

1218
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: to be heard from before the season's over, and it

1219
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if Dallas wound up winning the division,

1220
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: even though Philly's beaten him once that was with Cooper Rush.

1221
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: That Dallas defense is pretty awesome. Bob, thanks so much

1222
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: for the time. We really do appreciate the visit and

1223
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you in the booth on Sunday. Yeah.

1224
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: I have a safe trip up and hopefully this weather holds,

1225
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: because man, it's been in the mid to low seventies

1226
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: all week and it is as nice as it catch

1227
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: sounds good. Thanks a lot, Bob, Man, I thought there was.

1228
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: Those were some interesting comments from Bob talking about Daniel Jones.

1229
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: I think it puts a lot of it in perspective.

1230
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: We watched the game and we can see things happen.

1231
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: We see open receivers. Hey, why did the quarterback throw this?

1232
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: Why did the quarterback throw that? I mean it, I

1233
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: thought he put it so very well, and that is

1234
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: did the receiver run the wrong route to get open

1235
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: and he's not anticipating him to be there. That's a

1236
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: big part of playing that position is that everybody's on

1237
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: the same page and doing what the play call asked for. Now,

1238
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: there's always time for deviation. There's always time to change

1239
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: things up. But we saw that Tennessee game. There are

1240
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: at least two or three times where there was there

1241
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: was not a solid communication bond, if you will, between

1242
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and wide receivers. It wasn't there. Tennessee backed up

1243
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: Brandy cookstrn's a little hitch and then goes Davis throws

1244
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: the out route and it's I don't know who's wrong.

1245
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that can't happen. Happen a little

1246
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: bit later in the game. I'm trying to remember what

1247
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: route it was. But it happened later in a game too.

1248
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: A couple times in that game happened potentially against the

1249
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: Eagles once I can think of. So you just you

1250
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: just never know. But you just gotta work that much

1251
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: harder to get on the same page. But I thought

1252
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: those are great comments from Dable through Bob Papa about

1253
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and how well he is playing and doing things.

1254
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: Even though the numbers aren't gargant win. He's playing very

1255
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: well for the Giants and that's gonna be a tough

1256
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: match because of his athleticism getting out of the pocket.

1257
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: And by the way Daniel Jones has always been a

1258
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: obole out of the pocket Marcus Mariota type, always always

1259
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: tougher than two dollars steak. I never thought he threw

1260
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: it all that well. But you go back and read

1261
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: my draft report, and maybe I'll read it sometime this week.

1262
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: That's what I talked about. His toughness and his running.

1263
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: That's what really is what made him, has made him

1264
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: what he is. And they're getting the most out of that,

1265
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: hopefully now on Sunday, but throughout the rest of the year. Sure,

1266
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: why not, but just not on Sunday. All right, we

1267
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: get back. Let's hear from Jerry Hughes did a little

1268
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: deep slam with DeepC This will be fun for the

1269
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: greater Houston product. Jerry Hughes out of Austin High School,

1270
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: Fort Bend, I s d. Represent that's next on Texas

1271
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: to Access Man. I love being from htown, baby John

1272
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: Harris football on the sideline report for your Houston Texans,

1273
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: and I love saying that word Houston. Love that being

1274
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: my home and your home. I know you guys love

1275
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: living in Houston. I know Jerry Hughes is so proud

1276
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: to be from Houston. He spent his career with the

1277
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: Colts and the Bills. But earlier in his life, he

1278
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 1: went to Austin High School over the Fort Bend into

1279
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Pended School District. He was an off state running back

1280
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: back in the day. Well he turned himself into one

1281
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: fine defensive end and now he is plying that trade

1282
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: right here in his hometown at Houston. Deepe City had

1283
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him for a little

1284
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: deep slant interview of the week. Deepe and Jerry, Here

1285
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: we go. It's a deep Scent one on one presented

1286
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: by Vixfinity. My guests this week, Jerry Hughes, You're thirteen,

1287
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: off to the best start that you've had through the

1288
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: first nine games of your career. How does it feel

1289
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: so far for you? Oh? Man, it feels really good

1290
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: right now. You know, of course, we want to be

1291
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: winning a lot more ball games, so you know, we

1292
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: got an opportunity to kind of do that this second

1293
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: half of the season. So that's what I look forward

1294
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: to doing. You've had the most sacks that you've ever

1295
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: had through this time. I mean, what do you think

1296
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: the reason for the sack production that you've had this

1297
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: year has been? I got a credit to the secondary

1298
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: and how well they've been playing, you know, causing the

1299
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to kind of hold the ball a little bit

1300
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: longer has been Hughes has been key. It's been allowing

1301
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: me to kind of get off those blocks and really

1302
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: finish my rushes, which is really what we focus on doing.

1303
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: Levey Smith said that when you're out there, you play

1304
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: like a rookie trying to make a team or a

1305
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: free agent trying to make a team, that you just

1306
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: have this this desire to just play and perform at

1307
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: the top level, like you're trying to make the team.

1308
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: Where does that attitude come from for you? I think

1309
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: it's just my competitive nature. Anytime you get me to

1310
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: play anything, I mean, football, basketball, checkers, even hop Scotch,

1311
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: I want to win. So I'm gonna go out there

1312
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,959
Speaker 1: and give it one hundred and ten percent. I mean,

1313
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: my effort is probably going to be unmatched. This one

1314
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna try to do is, you know, really

1315
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: take it to that next level just to see how

1316
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: badly do you want it. But I think also just

1317
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: me flying around trying to do that just to show

1318
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: the young guys that's how we play football, That's how

1319
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: we play Texas football. I saw you play football in

1320
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: this league. You gotta be fast and decisive. You've got

1321
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: a lot of moves in your arsenal love. You talked

1322
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: about your bullrush, your spin move. I mean, at this

1323
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: stage in your career, are you still adding the moves

1324
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: or is it just fine tuning what you already have

1325
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: and knowing when to land what move. I would say

1326
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: fine tuning for the most part, you know, just knowing

1327
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: how to set up your pass rush moves. For It's

1328
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: really where I'm at right now, focusing mainly on hand plays,

1329
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: manning get off in the first half and then second half,

1330
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: really closing it in and really just making it all

1331
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: look at one fluid movement, so you can't really tell

1332
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I try not to give off too

1333
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: many tales as I'm pass rushing. I mean, it's an art.

1334
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: I like watching all the other guys in the league

1335
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,479
Speaker 1: get after it, and even the guys on this team,

1336
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: they have moves that you know, I haven't seen before.

1337
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: I've been playing on this stage for thirteen years, so

1338
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: people are certainly finding new ways to get after the quarterback,

1339
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: and so I like adding new things that. I mean,

1340
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm constantly working on my game. Do you bring out

1341
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: those new moves in practice, like you'll bring them out

1342
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: against the old line and see what they think of it.

1343
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm certainly trying them on LT and

1344
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: a big Titis. I mean, those two guys are probably

1345
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, some phenomenal pass blockers. I mean, big guys

1346
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: who move like dancing bears as we call it. You

1347
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for that side, ye be so nimble?

1348
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's incredible. So when any time I get

1349
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: a one on one opportunity, but then I'm trying, and

1350
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: then I'm in their ear asking what they saw, What

1351
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: sells did I give if the move wasn't successful, And

1352
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: they're so smart they actually reciprocate that information and they're

1353
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: feeding it back to me on how to beat an

1354
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: offensive linement, which is cool to have, you know, an

1355
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: offensive lineman working with a defensive linement on how to

1356
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: get sacks. So I never thought about the idea of

1357
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: disguising a move like you hear about defenses disguising their coverages.

1358
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: But even as a pass rusher, you try to disguise

1359
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: your move before you you know, you may present one

1360
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: thing and actually do another. Is that part of what

1361
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: you have to do at the stage. Like for me,

1362
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: I like to bull rush, and so I'll like to

1363
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: run at you and you'll think I'm bull rushing. I'll

1364
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: set it up that way and then I might spend

1365
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: on you, or I might take an inside move quicker.

1366
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: It's just it all depends on within those first two steps,

1367
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: how I can make that move look exactly the same.

1368
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's hard to defend against too, and you

1369
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: have no idea what's coming, or you think one thing's

1370
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: coming you've prepared for, and then it's something else. How

1371
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: about you, You've moved back to Houston and you know

1372
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: you're back in your hometown. You're back with the teams

1373
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: that you grew up watching, the food you grew up eating.

1374
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: How has that been for you so far? It's been amazing, honestly,

1375
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: just to kind of stay in my routine, and you know,

1376
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm a big routine guy, creature of habit, and so

1377
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: to be able to where I can start something in

1378
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: the off season and continue it, uh working with my chef,

1379
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: working with the Nutritionless team here, Oh, it's been phenomenal.

1380
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: I even got an acupunctuist that I'm able to see

1381
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: so everyone that I kind of put in play to

1382
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of get my body back going for Sunday. It's

1383
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: like nothing has changed. I haven't skipped a beat or anything.

1384
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: It's got to be hard, though, to stay healthy in Houston,

1385
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: I would think, I mean, especially since you know how

1386
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: much good food is out here, is your weakness text

1387
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: Max Mexican food. I mean, it's on every corner and

1388
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: everyone has the best tacos, and I'm a sucker for

1389
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: street tacos. I mean I just found out carnate a soada.

1390
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm saying that right straight steak tacos.

1391
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't know a little bit that that flavor that

1392
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: however they prepare that meat that's your thing, that is

1393
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: my thing on the taco right now, I'm freaking hooked

1394
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: right now. Do you have to be super healthy like

1395
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: your third team in the league, Like, I mean, do

1396
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: you have to clean up your diet a lot or

1397
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: can you do you have like a little wiggle room

1398
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: as a defensive alignment. I have a little wiggle room

1399
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: just because it's so humid here, so we're able to

1400
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: kind of sweat it off right right, But I mean,

1401
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: coming off of Halloween where the kids went tigger treating,

1402
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: and as they like to say, they got to pay

1403
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: Dad taxes of course, So you know, I take a

1404
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: nice little percentage of that. Kid. What's what's candy? What's

1405
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: the candy you're taking? Oh? I'm taking the peanut M

1406
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: and m's. For some reason, my kids don't like chocolate.

1407
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: So oh no, very right. I mean don't know for you,

1408
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: because you're going to be eating most of it. I

1409
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: would love. The one thing I give back to them

1410
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: is the freaking sneakers. You can have that you can

1411
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: have the caramel inside anything else? Really, Dad tax pay up? Okay,

1412
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: So you're back in Houston. Did I read somewhere that Okay,

1413
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: so when the Texans were first formed, you were probably

1414
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: what high school? Yeah? Did I read somewhere that you were?

1415
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: You voted as one of the potential names, because I

1416
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: voted in that too. Yeah. What did you vote for? Oh?

1417
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: I think at the time they had like a space

1418
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: themed team coin. I know they had the Roughnecks to Texans.

1419
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: I think there's one more to hadros Okay. I think

1420
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: I went with it was something with like a space

1421
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: They either like a spaceship or something, but I went

1422
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: with the space team because I figured we keep it

1423
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: all Yeah it's Rockets Astros, and so I was just spaing, Yeah,

1424
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: I was just thinking that we do. But I mean

1425
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: I like Texans because you know, it just branches out

1426
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: and now we get a wide range of fans. You

1427
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: get everybody, get everybody in the state. Right. You can't

1428
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: not do that right? All right? So a few years back,

1429
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: when Brian Cushing used to play here, he was from Jersey,

1430
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: and I asked him what the most prototypical Jersey thing

1431
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: about him was? But then I thought, what about you?

1432
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: Like growing up in Texas, what's the most Texas or

1433
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: most I should say, most Houston thing about you? Because

1434
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: I think Texas is different in different parts. What's the

1435
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: most Houston thing about you? I was gonna say, probably

1436
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: my love for just Mexican food. Okay, like seven days

1437
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: of the week. I feel like everyone here in Texas

1438
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: we could probably do that with a my soul frozen mark,

1439
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like that's something that's probably very

1440
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: texting of us. We could probably eat that seven days

1441
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: of the week. That might be it. Other than that,

1442
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: probably I'm used to seeing like horses on the highways

1443
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: and road so that that doesn't really surprise me versus

1444
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: time that's like, no big deal. Oh no, it's like

1445
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: someone's riding their horse down like a freaking highway. We're like, oh, well,

1446
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: that's just it's just that's that's a normal day in Texas.

1447
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: Right anywhere else you probably think there's like an almost

1448
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: parade or something like that going on. But yeah, certainly. Yeah,

1449
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: I feel like Houston has its own culture between the

1450
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: music and the scene and everything like that. And so like,

1451
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 1: now that you're back, how much has it changed. Tremendously, Yeah, tremendously.

1452
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: I love how the city is embracing the culture. I mean,

1453
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: we we had bumb performing at our halftime, and I

1454
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: know my family was excited. They were going crazy up

1455
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: in the little suite, having a good time, Slim thug,

1456
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: a big slim mom. Mom's partying, rocking out, throwing up

1457
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: for Houston, tex Inside. I'm just like, this is amazing

1458
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: and it's great to see for the city. It's great

1459
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: that we have, you know, those music moguls that that

1460
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: are able to come back and perform and be a

1461
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: part of that because they are Houston and we love them. Yeah,

1462
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: Jerry has been such a pleasure to get to know

1463
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: your best of luck for the rest of the season. Thanks,

1464
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Always glad to be here. He

1465
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: is absolutely tearing it up rushing to pass this year.

1466
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Hughes has been great for the Texans

1467
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: and hopefully Jerry feels that same love going back there

1468
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: the way he has been incredible for this team and

1469
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: provides pass rush, and he'll be facing a couple of

1470
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: good ones and Andrew Thomas, and don't know if it's

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01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: gonna be Tyry Phillips or Evan Neil, depending on Evan

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01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: Neel's availability, so we'll keep an eye on that. But

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes rushing y edge has been a problem for

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: every offensive tackle he has faced this year and looking

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: for more of that on Sunday against Daniel Jones and

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: the New York Giants. Speaking the Giants, we do a

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: little in the lab that is gigantic, well not in

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: length and size and all that, but just it's a

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Speaker 1: I would say it's a typical in the lab, like

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Speaker 1: a crazy, funky typical in the lab. Yeah, that's next.

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Speaker 1: On Texans All Access, we go on false segment of

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday at issue of Texans All Access from the Honday,

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I'm John Harris Foot playing on all

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Speaker 1: sideline reporters for the Schlumberge Stats Challenge, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by our friends at Schlumberge, and the stats Challenge number

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Speaker 1: is eighty five. Now I'll tell you what that number

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: relates to, because it relates to somebody that we are

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 1: going to discuss in just about fifteen seconds right here

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,919
Speaker 1: within the lab with my man Drew Doherty. Very interesting

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01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: topic that we stumbled upon. And you'll see what eighty

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01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: five means in just uh second. That's right, it's in

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Speaker 1: the lab time Drew Doherty, John Harrison, Mark Vandermer is

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01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: over there playing darts and screwing around. So John, how

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing well. You know the other day

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01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: I can't remembers one or Tuesday whenever our buddy Chris

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: Moore came in here. I had an interview with Chris

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Mark and I usually get a player on Tuesday while

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01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: you guys do the Players show. And Chris walked in

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01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: and he saw the dartboars. Oh you mounified throw a dart.

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 1: So we have about four dark it's five darts. We

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01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: used to have like six or nine, they've all gotten

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01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: broken or thrown whatever. He comes in. He throws two

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: bulls eyes of the four and then the other two

1504
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: are just around the bull's eye. And I'm like, you're

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: no longer and you're no longer invited. You throw like

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: that play We're do you get good at darts? I

1507
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: don't know, probably back in college I would imagine yeah,

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: Um he said he hadn't played in a while, but

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: uh yeah he You know, Mark and I pretty solid team.

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: We took on our video team, Jared Huff, ri Ip

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: and h Tyler Suttarth. We would take those two on

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: each probably each day. It got to be a battle

1513
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: summer for sure, before a training camp, and so darts

1514
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: were a pretty big deal. And then he just came

1515
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: in here and Chris Barres just started throwing. He's throwing

1516
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: darts at dagon bulls. I were like, no, no, no, man,

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: you're you're you're out of here, professional athlete. You're too

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: good for us. Yeah, believe it or not. I used

1519
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: to be good at darts about twenty years ago. Not anymore,

1520
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: haven't played, But I was okay, I could handle my business.

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01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: You just said rip about Jared Huff and Jared huffed

1522
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: to nut. Jared huff edits a lot of the videos

1523
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: and put together a lot of the videos that you

1524
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: see on Houston Texans dot com. He just he's spending

1525
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: his last week with us. He's got a new job.

1526
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: So crat stuff Uff. We're gonna miss Huffy. He's a

1527
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: good dude, good strong aggie. And yes he's moving on

1528
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: leaving the Texans. Okay, you are expecting us to talk

1529
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: about A and then B, but we're doing Q today

1530
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: because we're just gonna go full on in the Lab. Okay,

1531
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna be dorky. It's gonna be like a March version

1532
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: or a June version of in the Lab. And it

1533
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 1: was spawned a week or so ago when I was

1534
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: doing Texans All Access with DP and Mark and you

1535
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: know how they are. I brought up a great little

1536
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: tangent idea in the middle of a show, but it

1537
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: was a little too It wasn't enough mainstream for them. However,

1538
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: we were talking about trading and trades, and I said,

1539
01:12:54,320 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: whoa Boa, Boa, You can trade for any AFC South

1540
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: player that's not a quarterback that is retired all time,

1541
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: and you can add him to this roster at his peak,

1542
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: the Texans roster, which guy are you trading for? So

1543
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: you can't get Peyton Manning or or Andrew Luck, but

1544
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: any other position you can add them to this Texans roster.

1545
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 1: So it's two thousand and two through now basically, but

1546
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: retired players. Who would you add? John Harris? And it's

1547
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: got to be a retired player has to be retired

1548
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: because I would add Dwight Freeney. I want to pass rush.

1549
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: I want more guys getting after the quarterback. Now there's

1550
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: other positions you could add that would possibly help as well,

1551
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: well certainly would help, but that's where I would go

1552
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: to have a constant This guy might get two three

1553
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: sacks per game off of you if you're not careful.

1554
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: That's who I would get. I would add Dwight Freeney

1555
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: to this roster to up the anti help Jerry Hughes out,

1556
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: help Grenard out who's not in, and get after the

1557
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: quarterback and make things a little dicier on opposing offenses.

1558
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: Who would you add? Because the clear answer is he

1559
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: had Peyton Manning. He's the best quarterback, he's a Hall

1560
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: of Famer, he's one of the best ever. But we're

1561
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: not adding a quarterback. You and I are kind of

1562
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: thinking along the same lines, or I should say line,

1563
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: but I would probably go inside. Okay, And one of

1564
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: the guys that always frustrated me when I watched him,

1565
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: and I think he's retired, I don't know. I haven't

1566
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: seen him anywhere. I think he's retired to retired. No,

1567
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: Darrell Casey, that's a good tightness. He was the Titans

1568
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: version of of JJ because he was inside outside guy.

1569
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: He didn't always go up to defensive van like in

1570
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: a four three all the way outside, but from five

1571
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: technique to five techniques just outside the tackle on both sides,

1572
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: all the way across. He could. He could impact the play.

1573
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: Pain in the ass, absolute pain in the ass. And

1574
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: I loved watching him play because he was not three

1575
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds. He wasn't just doing a sheer size.

1576
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: He had every combination of quickness, hands, playmaking ability. He

1577
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: had it all. And he played for some really bad

1578
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: Titans teams. I was gonna say, man, he was there

1579
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 1: in the Mettenburger years, the Revolving Door before and after Mettenburger. Yeah,

1580
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: those those teams really tough. But when he I hated

1581
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: it at the end of hit for him because they

1582
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: finally had something by seventeen sixteen seventeen eighteen, and he

1583
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: was kind of at the back end of his career

1584
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: at that point. But I always felt like Drell Casey

1585
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: for the Titans was a guy that impacted everything. It

1586
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: was really hard to run against him, especially if you

1587
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: ran away from him, because he had a He had

1588
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: an uncanny knack of twisting his body towarding his body

1589
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: to get in between zone pulling lineman and then get

1590
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: down a line of scrimmage quickly and make a play

1591
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: on a running back. He was really tough. But I

1592
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: think we're both at the same point and it and

1593
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: it kind of leads drew to a discussion that I

1594
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: know people have asked us, but they're they're already thinking about, like,

1595
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: what do you do when you come to the twenty

1596
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: twenty three draft and there are some elite defensive alignement

1597
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: in this draft. And I know that the Texans haven't

1598
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: gotten out of Davis what they've wanted to get out

1599
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: of Davis, and there are some really good quarterbacks in

1600
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: this particular draft. But I think you can see where

1601
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 1: you and I are going, and that is if this

1602
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: defense could hold up better against the run. And it's

1603
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: funny because I picked an interior defensive lineman and you

1604
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: picked a defensive end. Who have we been missing Jonathan Grennard,

1605
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: ye Emily Collins. It's not all on two guys to

1606
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: stop the run. But we weren't beefy upfront as it was,

1607
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: but with those two guys in the lineup, they just

1608
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: gave you that much more against the run. Now, it

1609
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be perfect with them, and those two guys

1610
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: played in the game against Chicago and klil Herbert went

1611
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy against you a backup running back. So it

1612
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: hasn't been perfect with them, but it certainly has not

1613
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: been good at all without them. So we're thinking definitely

1614
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: along the same lines at that front seven. In particular

1615
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: those two. I thought about linebackers, and I was kind

1616
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: of going back in my mind, like what linebackers would

1617
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: I want? Demiko Ryans. Demiko Ryans would be a good one.

1618
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: The other one that I would want is a healthy Cushing. Yeah,

1619
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: I would want a healthy Cushing. If we had a

1620
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: healthy Cushing on this defense. And he was the guy,

1621
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: he was the guy in charge, and he was running things.

1622
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: He brought oop he was incredibly explosive in twitchy before

1623
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: the injury. I'd take Cushing all day, every day. So

1624
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: you put those three guys, Freeny, Casey, Cushing on this

1625
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: defense and things are changed exponentially. The two thousand and

1626
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: nine in two eleven seasons for Brian Cushing some of

1627
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: the best overall seasons by any player, regardless of side

1628
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: of the ball position. Absolutely in the history of this franchise.

1629
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: He was outstanding both He was a pro bowler in

1630
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: O nine, he should have gotten into Pro Bowl and eleven,

1631
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: but you know, understandably there were probably some lingering stuff

1632
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: or lingering ideas about him and who he was and

1633
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: all that that kept him from getting in eleven. But

1634
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: he was out. He was the heart and soul of

1635
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: that that twenty eleven team. He was the MVP. I mean,

1636
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: his teammates voted him the MVP of the twenty eleven team,

1637
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: which might, I would say, probably be the best team

1638
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: of all time Texans wise, when you you emphasized the

1639
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: letter Q, and I was like, when you asked your question,

1640
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I think I know where Drew's

1641
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: going with this. But then you said retired players. Yeah,

1642
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: And because Q. I was thinking of Quentn Nelson Um

1643
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: for the Colts, not that I would take him right

1644
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: now because I didn't want to go see because that's

1645
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: two Yeah, I don't know. You just picked the letter Q,

1646
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: and I thought that's where you were trying to write

1647
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: down l U m or. But if you could pick

1648
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 1: a current AFC South player, not Texan, a current non quarterback,

1649
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: current aff Jeffrey Simmons, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's he's

1650
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: a guy slam dunk. Yeah, absolutely, I mean he him

1651
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: is a slam dunk. He's pretty easy for me. That's

1652
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: that's who i'd go with. And here's here's the thing.

1653
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. And this is kind of why I've

1654
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: had this debate because on my podcast locked inn FFL Draft,

1655
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: I've been talking about this with the guys and the

1656
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: two other guys I'm on. When I had presented kind

1657
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: of like a top five draft scenario, and in that

1658
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: scenario for the Texans, I just you know, I picked

1659
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior and Jaylen Carter from out of Georgia,

1660
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: boy and something. Jaylen Carter is Jeffrey Well, because I

1661
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: think when I when I take the Browns, when I

1662
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: did this the Browns right number four, So it was

1663
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 1: one of them. It was two and four. I was

1664
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: getting out of the top ten even No, he won't

1665
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: get out of top four. And then he's saying, I

1666
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: think the Browns will I think they're gonna win. Yeah,

1667
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: I think the Brons will start to win a few games. Um.

1668
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are gonna end up being right

1669
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: where they were last year thirteen thirteen through fifteen. I

1670
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 1: think that's where they're gonna end up. Um. And so

1671
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get Carter at that point, but watching

1672
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: him against Tennessee. Had been banged up in the game

1673
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: against Oregon at the beginning of the year, and then

1674
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: he was kind of in and out, and then he

1675
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: finally missed a couple of games he came back for.

1676
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: I think it was I'm trying to think who Georgia

1677
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: played before Tennessee. But he's back for that game, just

1678
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: wrecking shop in the oh against against Florida in the

1679
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: in the cocktail party. But then against Tennessee, he just

1680
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: he showed it all. I mean to He stopped the game.

1681
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: It took the forty five minutes for them to correct

1682
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: that play, to figure out what safety wasn't you know.

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01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's lifted that dude up and then forklift

1684
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: him at the end and then got rid of him

1685
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: and then tackled. It should have been a safety. But

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: either way, yeah, Jalen Carter, we start thinking about on

1687
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: his defense and it's like I remember for so long

1688
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 1: watching the Colts in this division, You're like, man, we

1689
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: need freedi in a mathist. Man, we needed freedi in

1690
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: a mathist. And then we go get Mario Williams and

1691
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: they who Mario Williams was not either one of those guys,

1692
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 1: but you found somebody that could impact the game from

1693
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: the edge. And when you got J. J. Watt, who

1694
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: get impacted the game from the edge and the inside,

1695
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: you start looking around the division and how do you

1696
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: win a division? Well, you want to go find one

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01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 1: of those. You're not gonna find Derek Henry. You're just not.

1698
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find Derek Henry. But Duke got Damian Pierce,

1699
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: which is a you know, you didn't go out and

1700
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: get an F three fifty. You know, you went out

1701
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: and found you know, a tank, which is a little different.

1702
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: But you can't find a Jeffrey Simmons. And it's his

1703
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: name is Jaln Carter. There aren't plenty, There aren't many

1704
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: of them, but you could go out and find a

1705
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: guy like Jeffrey Simmons. Do you think about every single

1706
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: game as Simmons has played for the Titans against the Texans,

1707
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: He's found a way to impact that game. He's an

1708
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: absolute monster, John, He's a monstrance. All week long leading

1709
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: up to that Titans game, I was looking at the

1710
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: injury report Ryan Tannehill. Yes, I know Jeffrey Simmons Wednesday sweet,

1711
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 1: same thing on Thursday, and then both those guys are questionable.

1712
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: And I think they wound up ruling Tannehill out on Saturday,

1713
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: but yet on Friday questionable and I was like, oh,

1714
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: there's And I was much more. I didn't really care

1715
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: as much about Tannehill. I cared about Jeffrey Simmons, and

1716
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 1: he wound up playing and he was basically a grenade.

1717
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: When you throw that grenade in the middle of your

1718
01:21:56,479 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: offensive line, bad stuff happens. When on Friday, I was

1719
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: scouring the twitters, and as I scoured, I fall I

1720
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: found a video and I can't remember who posts. I

1721
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: think it maybe been Paul Karski posted a video in

1722
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: the locker room with Simmons talking about whether he was

1723
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: gonna play or not, and he said one thing and

1724
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: my heart dropped. He was like, well, I feel better

1725
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: than I did last Sunday, and I went, oh no.

1726
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: And the previous Sunday he played against the coltson he

1727
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: got banged up in that game, and I thought, oh,

1728
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. And then when he plays, he's just

1729
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: he's out right. So when you get in a spot

1730
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: where you're trying to improve your team, you're like, Okay,

1731
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: what do other teams have, you know, it's like AFC

1732
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: South envy. What do they have that we'd like to get? Well,

1733
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: I'd like that guy. Yeah, and Jaylen Carter is that

1734
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: guy from Georgia. Now there might be some other things

1735
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: that happened in draft and we'll see where it all

1736
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: ends up. We're only halfway through the year. But at

1737
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: the mock that I was doing at that time, the

1738
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: Texans were two and the Browns were four, and so

1739
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: you get to the top four. And so I went

1740
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Jaylen Carter with that, thinking, what's our biggest, biggest,

1741
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: biggest need. Well, it's the be better defensively. Sure, and

1742
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: those are the two I came up with. And the

1743
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: two guys kind of said, no, man, I think you

1744
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 1: need to go quarterback wide receiver. And I was like,

1745
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can make a case for

1746
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at four. But I got their point.

1747
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand, you know, you've got to get

1748
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: better quarterback quarterback play, and Davis Mills got nine games

1749
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: to play better at quarterback, and hopefully he'll do that.

1750
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 1: He's shown some signs of playing better against Las Vegas

1751
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: early in the Philadelphia game. He's got to continue that

1752
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: and get consistent with it or they're gonna be, you know,

1753
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: some people that are going to be clamoring for that

1754
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in the top whatever wherever the Texans end up picking.

1755
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: But you know, that's a discussion down the road. But

1756
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that Simmons was the guy that

1757
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: you and I and I bet if we brought Mark

1758
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: and he'd say the same thing. Yeah, I think Simmons

1759
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: would be the one that everybody would want for this

1760
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: Texans team. Okay, a few little tangents that come up

1761
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: off of our conversation that you brought up. Brian Cushing

1762
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: saw him on Saturday, he's doing well. Yeah right, he's

1763
01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: got shockingly he's got athletic young children. Yeah, very very

1764
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: good at flag football. And saw his chitt and chat

1765
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 1: with him because my one of my sons was playing

1766
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: flag football. The other one just finished up his seven

1767
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 1: on seven season. He made the all start too. Nice congratulation, Yes,

1768
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: proud of him, Proud of both. But Brian Cushing is

1769
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: doing well. Looks good, looks like he goes suit up

1770
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: and reek some havoc. Jadevion Clowney was in town that

1771
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: the Browns had a buy last week and his son's

1772
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: team was playing before hours, so Joe Devion's doing well.

1773
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: Got a chance to say hello to him. And then hey,

1774
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: I was voting yesterday and I saw Owen Daniels. He

1775
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: was voting ahead of me. So he did his civic duty.

1776
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: And you know we uh we fist bumped on the

1777
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: way out the doo. Do too much talking in the

1778
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 1: polling places because you know how people can be, so

1779
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 1: didn't say too much. Yes, we know how people can

1780
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: be at voting places. Yes. And then on top of that,

1781
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: you bring up Darrell Casey. He was a twenty eleven

1782
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: draft pick who was on this show. I don't know

1783
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: if his last year or two years ago. We did

1784
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: a read draft of two thousand and eleven for the Texans,

1785
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: and in that redraft, the Texans chose J. J. Watt,

1786
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: Justin Houston, Oh, Drell Casey, Yea, Richard Sherman, and Chris

1787
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: Harris amongst others. Wow, what a group that was. And oh,

1788
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: by the way, eighty five Terrell Casey's TfL number in

1789
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: his career. We could use a few of those this

1790
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: week against the Giants, against sae Quon Barkley for sure.

1791
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Big thanks to everybody on the show, to all of

1792
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: you for listening. We'll see you next time, and as always,

1793
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 1: go Texans.