Speaker 1: I can name so many strong black women, but I
Speaker 1: can't name a lot of black women that are free.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what makes you all unique. Is
Speaker 1: that how? I mean? How many strong black women do?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Millions, all of them, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's like, but people like seeing you all get to
Speaker 1: be yourselves and don't like you don't feel tied down
Speaker 1: to anything like that's very unique.
Speaker 3: Well thank you.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's crazy that that's unique, right, you know, But
Speaker 4: when you think about it, we have to kind of
Speaker 4: learn to be comfortable in our freedom because we've been
Speaker 4: taught so often to conform and to be quiet and
Speaker 4: to take up less space and to like just be quiet,
Speaker 4: you know. So it is like a tool, a muscle
Speaker 4: that has to be exercised. Welcome back to good mom's
Speaker 4: bad choices.
Speaker 3: I'm Erica and I'm Mela.
Speaker 4: Happy hump day, Happy hump day, bitches.
Speaker 2: It's time to smoke.
Speaker 3: A bloo and it's time to smoke a blah. Is
Speaker 3: it back with a clock and your nipples up?
Speaker 2: It's not out nipples.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many times gonna tell you my
Speaker 4: areolas are camouflage.
Speaker 3: They're camouflage. So yeah, you can't see it.
Speaker 2: If you're on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Go now look at Mila's nipples the one one minute mark.
Speaker 3: Maybe you'll see mine because mine are really big and
Speaker 3: they keep popping out of my dress.
Speaker 4: This is how we entice people to come to our
Speaker 4: come to our YouTube channel. So all twenty thousand of
Speaker 4: our subscribers mostly came over to see our nipples.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's like twenty four thousand. And if you
Speaker 3: haven't subscribed, make sure you click the subscribe buttons. You
Speaker 3: get alerted every time our beautiful faces hit the YouTube channels.
Speaker 4: We got a nice studio and shit, we look good.
Speaker 4: We're getting dressed and putting all makeup and shit, yeah pla.
Speaker 3: Today I'm wearing or because I'm flirty and it's the
Speaker 3: end of summer and I wanted to feel flirty and orange.
Speaker 3: And I have these beautiful accessories on if you dare accessories.
Speaker 3: This is a female founded, female owned, black owned accessory business.
Speaker 3: And I like my earrings. They're very bushy there.
Speaker 4: Look you're petting soft.
Speaker 3: It's soft that come in many different colors.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like something from Whoville.
Speaker 3: Well you know that, you know in the episode we
Speaker 3: did with Laron Lionel and I had the pink ones.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, she makes those.
Speaker 4: I'm wearing a Djon dress with a high split up
Speaker 4: my sex.
Speaker 1: Jon.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like it's like mustard. I've never heard
Speaker 4: anyone call the color dijon. Ever, well today you did.
Speaker 4: It's called Dijon mustard.
Speaker 1: Bitch.
Speaker 4: I was looking at it to just figure out what
Speaker 4: the color was, and I chose Dijon mustard because I'm spicy.
Speaker 4: This is by Vintage Souls and we actually have a
Speaker 4: discount code advantage Souls. Let me give it, Let me
Speaker 4: do my jump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was on, Oh wow, you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna you're gonna gonna be standing totally out of camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: See you like that little slate you can pull it,
Speaker 3: pull it to make it. Oh yeah, I love the
Speaker 3: form fitting this. It looks good on all shapes and sizes.
Speaker 3: The material is soft, kind of like those Calvin Klein
Speaker 3: underwear that you know, those sheets and those underwear that
Speaker 3: other one likes. And if you're on YouTube, you can
Speaker 3: see Mila shaking her big fat booty and her nipples
Speaker 3: out again.
Speaker 4: You know, just a little something some you know, I
Speaker 4: just want to, you know, show my haters a little
Speaker 4: ass shaken for the day. You know, set your mood
Speaker 4: off right.
Speaker 2: Are you gonna roll the bloot today?
Speaker 3: I can, yeah, roll it up, Roll it up up today, Nelly.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Nelly, our podcast producer. We had no weed,
Speaker 3: and so she gifted us with hers. And it's actually
Speaker 3: not weed at all, or it is weed sort of weed.
Speaker 3: It's cbdhweed.
Speaker 4: It's slow ghweed's so hopefully we won't get midway down
Speaker 4: through the conversation.
Speaker 3: You'll be so smart. I'm gonna say, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: We're gonna smoke that whole blunt still be smart.
Speaker 4: I'm usually smart when I smoke. We I just have
Speaker 4: to smoke it like halfway through the episode. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you guys notice if we smoke weed, we
Speaker 4: only smoke it halfway through the episode because if we
Speaker 4: start too early, we'll us like five years to figure
Speaker 4: this out. I thought four and a half years. If
Speaker 4: we start before, then the whole episode would be fucked.
Speaker 4: But if we start the episode and then we get
Speaker 4: into a good conversation and then we hit it, then
Speaker 4: we get smarter.
Speaker 3: It elevates.
Speaker 4: We got to get into the conversation. First, yeah, we can't.
Speaker 4: We can't depend on start here. No, unless it's four twenty.
Speaker 4: This is our tactic.
Speaker 2: How are you today, my love.
Speaker 4: I'm doing fine. I'm doing really good. I am. I
Speaker 4: decided that I was gonna invite everybody I ever knew
Speaker 4: in my contact list to my housewarming party. Perfect, And
Speaker 4: now I just realize it's tomorrow and I ain't got shit.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, I gotta go on Amazon and buy your
Speaker 3: and got out of your list. You know what I
Speaker 3: was thinking about this. I need to start We need
Speaker 3: to start creating Amazon grifflis and just post them on
Speaker 3: social media, and then we can live the life we want.
Speaker 4: I'm about to post my registry. I'm much post.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm posting everything on social bitch, buy my whole house.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing is like Amazon has everything.
Speaker 3: Because I really do want new things, and I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, I love you guys. I feel like we
Speaker 3: enricher lives every week. You know, we give you a lot.
Speaker 3: The least you could do was buy me a fucking
Speaker 3: candle so something.
Speaker 4: If you buy me a housewarming gift, I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: I'm gonna prop my phone up at the housewarming and
Speaker 4: put on live so you can tune in, you could
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 3: Basically, just know it's gonna be the dip teak candle.
Speaker 3: So that bitch cost about one hundred and twenty, but
Speaker 3: it's gonna be worth it. And I'm gonna thank you
Speaker 3: so much. I'll even thank you live on the show.
Speaker 3: I'll say your name and I'll say thank you, thank
Speaker 3: you so much Richard for buying me the dip teak candle.
Speaker 4: I know what I was thinking about it. I was like,
Speaker 4: why didn't we do that with the office. Why didn't
Speaker 4: we have a house office warming? And like let everyone because.
Speaker 1: We were these hundreds of pressed.
Speaker 2: We didn't have time to wait waste. We had a lot.
Speaker 3: We had to capitalize on that Black Friday sale. We
Speaker 3: literally designed our whole office on a Black Friday sale.
Speaker 2: We bought as.
Speaker 3: Much as we could in like a two day period
Speaker 3: Cyber Monday, Black Friday.
Speaker 4: I'm about to put interior designer on my resume for sure,
Speaker 4: he too, because I'd be design and shit, I'm a
Speaker 4: clothing designer and an interior designer actually, and I designed
Speaker 4: my life yeah, master manifesto, designer of all things, and
Speaker 4: it's done.
Speaker 3: And the designer of perfectly rolled vanilla Backwoods.
Speaker 4: And now for the final touch, just a little, just
Speaker 4: a little oh oh yeah, just one little drop of honey.
Speaker 3: That's what the girls like someone. I think in our
Speaker 3: last clip that was on Instagram, I was talking about
Speaker 3: how niggas always suck on.
Speaker 4: The blunt, I know, and then I was like, so
Speaker 4: ilmo erotic.
Speaker 2: I was like, we probably could have left that right now.
Speaker 4: This is how you know, we don't really we don't
Speaker 4: really funnel through an edit because I'd be like, huh,
Speaker 4: that could have Maybe I shouldn't had to say that.
Speaker 4: Somewhere our nigga's over there smell backing down as blunt,
Speaker 4: thinking about me calling him homoerotic, mad as hell.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 4: Don't teach me no new words because I would be
Speaker 4: using him. Oh yeah, that's homoerotic.
Speaker 3: But people often ask us why we put the honey
Speaker 3: on the blunt. Well, we put the honey on the
Speaker 3: blunt because A it makes it a lot. Bitch, are
Speaker 3: you are you that niggas that sucks on the blunt? Like,
Speaker 3: are you the person I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: What's happening over it tastes good?
Speaker 1: What the fu?
Speaker 3: So the blunt with the honey makes it take bitch,
Speaker 3: Why does the sound?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I like it.
Speaker 3: The blunt with honey makes it taste sweet, and then
Speaker 3: also it helps it burn slower. But if you're Jamila
Speaker 3: and you sucked every ounce of the honey off the blunt,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna make it burn slower.
Speaker 3: It's fine, Okay, So.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put this aside, and so we start talking.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's only seven percent. Okay, okay, just give a second.
Speaker 1: Doing it now?
Speaker 2: Just light it? Okay, where's the lighter? Oh the candle?
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, let's get a little bit hah ha,
Speaker 4: just a little bit ha ha, A ton of bit
Speaker 4: every day, just a ton of bit ha had.
Speaker 3: Orlando, make sure you drop the beat there anyway, y'all,
Speaker 3: I know you don't believe us, but we actually have
Speaker 3: a guest here who's been sitting in silence next to us,
Speaker 3: just trying not to laugh. We are really excited because
Speaker 3: this guest came to us via our tribe. We posted
Speaker 3: something on Instagram. We were looking for people in the
Speaker 3: birthing space, the fertility space, and we were led to
Speaker 3: doctor Raquel the fertility aka at the Fertility Advantage and
Speaker 3: she is a fertility expert. So welcome to the show,
Speaker 3: doctor Raquel. And I know you said I don't have
Speaker 3: to call you doctor, but I feel like, bitch, you
Speaker 3: worked really.
Speaker 2: Hard for that.
Speaker 1: I paid for that.
Speaker 4: You invested in that title before listen.
Speaker 2: Before the episode started, she was like, I don't have
Speaker 2: to say that.
Speaker 3: I was like, my daughter will call me a doctor
Speaker 3: if I am a doctor, doctor, mom, doctor, e whatever,
Speaker 3: like my nigga while we're fucking.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that'd be so fun. Like call me doctor.
Speaker 3: I call me doctor dick. Oh he doesn't want to
Speaker 3: do that. I'd be lay because my last name is Dickerson.
Speaker 2: That's going to work.
Speaker 4: Well, just put the sun on it. You can't just
Speaker 4: say doctor dick.
Speaker 2: I mean just it's kind of long, it doesn't roll
Speaker 2: off the tongue.
Speaker 4: Dr Matt role play as a doctor.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't have the debt. But just keep calling me doctor.
Speaker 4: I'm the six. Sorry, just took away from your intro
Speaker 4: because we're ridiculously immature.
Speaker 2: Hi, thank you for joining us today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I know everybody says this,
Speaker 1: but I really am a big fan of what you do,
Speaker 1: and all of my friends are huge fans of what
Speaker 1: you do. And you, I don't know if you really
Speaker 1: realize how much you allow people to just feel free.
Speaker 1: You know, like I don't have to just be a mom,
Speaker 1: Like I can be anything I want to be. I
Speaker 1: can be sexual, you know, I can explore or I
Speaker 1: can learn. But I'm so glad that you all are
Speaker 1: having me today.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I really received that. Sometimes we'd be
Speaker 4: talking to the people, but we can't really see anyone,
Speaker 4: so it's just like, does any make care? Yeah, this
Speaker 4: morning we had an interview with Essence asking us about
Speaker 4: Kiki Palmer's boyfriend. I'm like, They're like, this is what
Speaker 4: they called us for. I'm like, I can't believe Essence
Speaker 4: is calling me for this, but hello, And she was like,
Speaker 4: did you guys go to school for this? And I
Speaker 4: was like for women being free?
Speaker 2: I know, we were just talking.
Speaker 3: She's like, I just have a question. Did you guys
Speaker 3: go to hire learning for this? And me and bl
Speaker 3: Lover we're texting on the.
Speaker 4: Side, like, I was like, I have a master's degree.
Speaker 2: We should start telling people.
Speaker 4: We did, like women's studies. We started gender and Sexuality Studies,
Speaker 4: women's freedom studies, Liberal women's liberal doctor.
Speaker 3: I'm a doctor of freedom, doctor freedom.
Speaker 1: I'm leading.
Speaker 4: It's like, it's like, it's like, what's no, I'm Harriet Tubman,
Speaker 4: what why? Wait?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: Where's this going?
Speaker 4: I'm leading the women to freedom? Oh now, on the underground,
Speaker 4: on the manustream railroad.
Speaker 2: On the men's stream, the men's stream. The mention.
Speaker 1: And it's so true too, because I remember I don't
Speaker 1: know where I saw that, but I remember somebody saying,
Speaker 1: like I can name so many strong black women, but
Speaker 1: I can't name a lot of black women that are free.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what makes you all unique? Is that? How?
Speaker 1: I mean? How many strong black women do? You know? Millions?
Speaker 1: All of them, you know what I mean. So it's like,
Speaker 1: but people like seeing you all get to be yourselves
Speaker 1: and don't like you don't feel tied down to anything
Speaker 1: like that's very unique.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you?
Speaker 4: Wow, it's crazy that that's unique, right, you know? But
Speaker 4: when you think about it, we have to kind of
Speaker 4: you kind of have to learn to be comfortable in
Speaker 4: our freedom because we've been taught so often to conform
Speaker 4: and to be quiet and take up less space than
Speaker 4: to like just be quiet, you know. So it is
Speaker 4: like a tool, a muscle that has to be exercised
Speaker 4: to be like am I am? I sure maybe, but
Speaker 4: fucked But I might regret this later, but yellow exactly,
Speaker 4: there's nothing better I'd rather be known for.
Speaker 2: Same. Amen.
Speaker 3: Well, So we have never had anyone on the show
Speaker 3: talk about fertility and infertility, and I think that this is,
Speaker 3: I don't want to say, a taboo topic, but it
Speaker 3: is a topic that I think a lot of women
Speaker 3: feel ashamed about, or they don't really know where to
Speaker 3: go to get resources, or they think the resources are
Speaker 3: beyond them more too expensive to explore. Scared because the
Speaker 3: bitch that's me. I'm like, I've been wanting to go
Speaker 3: get my eggs tested for a while because I have
Speaker 3: been very dangerous, and the bitch don't get pregnant. So
Speaker 3: I was like, is this what they wrong with me?
Speaker 3: Because I used to think that even before I had
Speaker 3: my daughter, and I was in my twenties and I
Speaker 3: was just letting my baby daddy shoot up the club
Speaker 3: like every thing that and nothing was happening. So I
Speaker 3: was like, am I broke not not to say that
Speaker 3: if if you can't have children, are not broken. But
Speaker 3: that's that was really how I felt. And then I
Speaker 3: got pregnant.
Speaker 4: You know what, I think I just thought of that
Speaker 4: because for a long for like over a year and
Speaker 4: a half, I was like, I was like, my baby, daddy,
Speaker 4: shoot up the club. And I was like, maybe I
Speaker 4: can't get pregnant, but I think spiritually, I mean, it's.
Speaker 1: Fucked up, bitch.
Speaker 3: Don't get pleass fucked up here with this this ideology.
Speaker 3: You was protected by God being she don't get pregnant
Speaker 3: by that fuck nigga.
Speaker 4: But then God was like, this is the eight hundred
Speaker 4: and ninety eighth time you did not I got the
Speaker 4: message pregnant.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't try to warry you for real.
Speaker 4: I feel like no, I do feel like not. I'm
Speaker 4: not necessarily like I'm been pregnant by some niggs. I
Speaker 4: didn't even get pregnant by. But like that, you have
Speaker 4: to like your your body has to want to receive
Speaker 4: the sperm. And I do believe in that solid year
Speaker 4: and a half, my God was like, are you.
Speaker 3: Sure, bitch?
Speaker 4: Mine was about four years because it was like in
Speaker 4: our prime, damn our prime twenties you know the eggs,
Speaker 4: I be one to get out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was four years like like legit really and
Speaker 3: then I got scared. So then I was actually kind
Speaker 3: of trying to get pregnant, but like not like saying
Speaker 3: that out loud, but.
Speaker 4: Just to like check, you get some furz on three earrings.
Speaker 2: And then it's true. Actually I got.
Speaker 3: I ended up getting pregnant on vacation, and I was
Speaker 3: very relaxed, and I was very happy, and I was
Speaker 3: very free. And if you read our book A Good
Speaker 3: Mom's Guy to Making Bad Choices, which you can find
Speaker 3: on Amazon or Barnes and Noble or your local black bookstore,
Speaker 3: or click the link in this episode description, you can
Speaker 3: hear about this story and how anal Sex got me pregnant.
Speaker 1: But I need to hear this story.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I I really I really thought I
Speaker 3: couldn't get pregnant, and then I did, and I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: But even after since then, I've had partners or i've
Speaker 3: you know, not always maybe been the safest, and I've
Speaker 3: never gotten pregnant. So maybe it is God protecting me again,
Speaker 3: or maybe it is my.
Speaker 2: Low egg cow who knows.
Speaker 3: But I actually went to a doctor and got a
Speaker 3: prescription or whatever a form to go get tested for
Speaker 3: get my eggs tested, and I never went because I
Speaker 3: got scared. I just never went.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it's like then if you get this information,
Speaker 4: then what right? But now, you know, I feel like
Speaker 4: it's like so appropriate that you're here now, because like
Speaker 4: if you're just starting to listen to the show, like
Speaker 4: we started, I was twenty nine. We're like twenty nine
Speaker 4: and thirty when we started the show, and so like,
Speaker 4: fertility was not even a fucking question. In fact, I
Speaker 4: kept getting fucking pregnant like a dumb bitch. And then
Speaker 4: I so but as we age and like even some
Speaker 4: of my friends are you know, wanting to have kids
Speaker 4: or they're going to get their eggs checked, I'm like, huh.
Speaker 4: And now and now that we're considered geriatric pregnancy age,
Speaker 4: these are conversations that really should be common you And
Speaker 4: I'm also Jeriachic. I hate that word me too.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 4: Don't say that word to know you don't that's that
Speaker 4: doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: Let's call it like periatric. I sound like I'm my
Speaker 1: he's on a walker.
Speaker 4: It's intentional pregnancy. I feel like if you get pregnant
Speaker 4: for thirty five. It's intentional pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen. My aunt was like, if you choose your
Speaker 1: baby daddy wrong at this age, you just don't do
Speaker 1: the fuck.
Speaker 4: You know, it's as long as as something.
Speaker 1: I am thirty five. She was like you, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, because now you got all the tools to
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 4: You know he was you know, he was a baby
Speaker 4: daddy material, right right. Listen.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you sound like you just got to fuck around
Speaker 3: and get a baby and to learn your.
Speaker 2: Lesson exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1: No, it's even at.
Speaker 3: Thirty five, even at forty. You know, you just don't
Speaker 3: know until you do it. And you're like, damn.
Speaker 1: And I think, like you were saying about the test,
Speaker 1: I remember so many like people calling in just saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just watched the show Harlem, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all watched.
Speaker 3: Harlem, but that was making that's making a good chow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But it was like a group of women and
Speaker 1: like two of them went and got tested, and that
Speaker 1: like sparked a huge thing amongst black women to start
Speaker 1: talking about it. I love that, Oh there's a test
Speaker 1: that I can do to see what my ovarian reserve
Speaker 1: is and your ovarian reserve is just how many eggs
Speaker 1: you have left. So that was probably the test your
Speaker 1: doctor was having you do. And if you get that
Speaker 1: information and it's bad, then you have a decision to make.
Speaker 1: Like I have a low ovarian reserve. This means that
Speaker 1: I have a very low chance of getting pregnant, you know,
Speaker 1: if I don't make a plan in the next few
Speaker 1: years or I need to freeze my eggs immediately. So
Speaker 1: sometimes people don't even want to get the test because
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't want to know. If it happens,
Speaker 1: it happens, and if it doesn't, oh well, m yeah,
Speaker 1: So how did you.
Speaker 2: Get into this work?
Speaker 3: Like, as obviously you're a doctor, did you always know
Speaker 3: you wanted to be in women's health in that way
Speaker 3: as you journeyed into doctorhood? No?
Speaker 1: No, So I actually went to school to be a
Speaker 1: naturopathic doctor, and then once I.
Speaker 3: Was in school, it's a naturopathic doctor.
Speaker 1: So a naturopathic doctor they're classified as like primary care doctors.
Speaker 1: But we believe that, like we believe in the body's
Speaker 1: abilities to heal itself. So like prevention is cure. I
Speaker 1: love that and it you know, I feel like more
Speaker 1: doctor and more spaces are adopting this, like functional medicine
Speaker 1: or root calls medicine. It's just naturopathic medicine with a
Speaker 1: bow on it. But we really believe that our bodies
Speaker 1: are capable of doing anything. And that's how I entered
Speaker 1: into the space of fertility. So when I first got started,
Speaker 1: I had a friend Melanie, whose mom was obgyn in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know what I want
Speaker 1: to do. I know I want to do women's health,
Speaker 1: and so I went to their practice in midtown Atlanta
Speaker 1: and I kept seeing all of these women because they
Speaker 1: were all able to get pregnant. But then I was
Speaker 1: seeing the women that couldn't get pregnant, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what happens to them? You know? And they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, you know, we have to just
Speaker 1: refer them out, like it's literally nothing. And it was
Speaker 1: so it was so quiet in the room.
Speaker 2: It was like like no one had ever asked this question.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was just like they were like, oh, sorry, it's
Speaker 1: been a year, you know, or it's been six months,
Speaker 1: so we got to refer you out. But you could
Speaker 1: literally feel the silence and so I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: where do those women go? And that's what I want
Speaker 1: to figure out. And so I was in school in
Speaker 1: San Diego, finishing up med school, and there was a
Speaker 1: doctor who worked at San Diego Fertility Center and she
Speaker 1: wanted to work specifically o good. She wanted to work
Speaker 1: I'll be all time tied. She wanted to work specifically
Speaker 1: with naturopathic medical students because she was trying to see
Speaker 1: how the environment affected our fertility. And so she was
Speaker 1: doing all this research just like the actual like just
Speaker 1: environment earth yes, or like plastics, pollution, mercury, arsenic. So
Speaker 1: she was actually testing these things in very young women
Speaker 1: who couldn't get pregnant. And so she was just looking
Speaker 1: for people to help her with the research. And that's
Speaker 1: literally how I got in.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm so curious about this research though, Like what was.
Speaker 4: Handsmaid's Tale?
Speaker 1: The first so true, it's real. So it showed that
Speaker 1: especially people that traveled to like China, like a lot
Speaker 1: of her patients were people that like traveled often, or
Speaker 1: even people in California that you know, maybe ate a
Speaker 1: lot of sushi, ate a lot of fish. She it
Speaker 1: just didn't make sense to her that people in their
Speaker 1: twenties were not able to get pregnant, and she's like,
Speaker 1: this is this is like the ideal time. So something's
Speaker 1: going on. So she would literally do blood tests and
Speaker 1: urine test to look for like arsenic camium ten mercury,
Speaker 1: and every single time it just lit up.
Speaker 2: I'm scared. I eat a lot of fish. I'm stopping.
Speaker 2: No more fish.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, So it literally it literally showed how those
Speaker 1: things impacted, you know, your fertility. And so she was
Speaker 1: doing that and then I worked with her for a
Speaker 1: few years and then lo and behold, I met a
Speaker 1: doctor in Beverly Hills. He was doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: and that's how I got my first job.
Speaker 3: And mmm, wow doing it for a while now that's amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw an issue and a problem and then
Speaker 4: you said, hey, how can I resolve that? Yeah, especially
Speaker 4: for like it's so like just brown and black women specifically,
Speaker 4: to see something that looks like you and be able
Speaker 4: to feel comfortable in that space because it is, I think,
Speaker 4: and people people don't even know it's an option, because
Speaker 4: freezing your eggs is a luxury, and so it's like
Speaker 4: if that's not even an option in your mind, you
Speaker 4: don't even think about, you know, all those things so
Speaker 4: do your work is so important.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. You really don't think about it.
Speaker 1: And I think it was so important for me to
Speaker 1: follow the path that I did, because I think that
Speaker 1: sometimes the wires can get crossed, you know, like when
Speaker 1: people try to step on other people's hos. Like if
Speaker 1: you break your arm, you can now go see a
Speaker 1: naturopathic doctor. You got to go see a surgeon, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think that sometimes that's
Speaker 1: where it gets messed up. But like a lot of
Speaker 1: the doctors that I've been lucky enough to work with,
Speaker 1: they understand that prevention is also a part of the treatment,
Speaker 1: you know. And so we would work with people that
Speaker 1: were very young, had a very low Oberian reserve. We
Speaker 1: would test like their heavy metals there, you know, if
Speaker 1: they were depleted in micronutrients, we would restore that and
Speaker 1: then it would allow them to have like a better
Speaker 1: outcome for egg freezing and stuff like that. But what
Speaker 1: I noticed, and I was working in Beverly Hill, so
Speaker 1: I get it, but I started noticing that white women
Speaker 1: were bringing their eighteen year old daughters in to have
Speaker 1: their ovarian reserve test. It. So they're like, oh, my
Speaker 1: daughter wants to go to law school or med.
Speaker 4: School, or we want to see how long we have
Speaker 4: what right the parent?
Speaker 1: The parents they were like, I want to see you
Speaker 1: know what her bearing a reserve is?
Speaker 2: Like why is that any mouses?
Speaker 4: First of all, but they were helping me and maybe
Speaker 4: it's kind or maybe it runs in their family, like
Speaker 4: sometimes you know, if the only menipies is something like
Speaker 4: a generic I mean genetic, can I get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I guess.
Speaker 2: Maybe I would hope it would be more the daughter.
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I don't know. It's not like they're forced.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're gonna get those I just not like Candmaid's Tale.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this creepy.
Speaker 3: But I could see in actually empowering your child to
Speaker 3: kind of just have a ton not kind of having
Speaker 3: autonomy over your body and having as much information as
Speaker 3: possible exactly.
Speaker 1: And they were so young, and so as women, we
Speaker 1: are born with all the eggs will ever have. So
Speaker 1: bringing them in at eighteen is allowing them to see like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what my fertility health is like in the present.
Speaker 1: I may I may need to go ahead and freeze
Speaker 1: my eggs now. So then in the future, when I'm
Speaker 1: done with med school, law school, I'm thirty five forty,
Speaker 1: I have eggs from when I'm eighteen. But that is right,
Speaker 1: So that's privilege though you.
Speaker 4: Have your like those are your highest agg even right
Speaker 4: now if we froze our So I just recently had
Speaker 4: Luna's aunt went to this process and explained it to me,
Speaker 4: and I was like, lo, and I told her you
Speaker 4: were coming on the show, but I had no idea
Speaker 4: the level, like you have to get the prime mist eggs.
Speaker 4: So essentially, if we froze our eighteen year old eggs,
Speaker 4: a there's a lot of them, and be they're the
Speaker 4: best so and versus us freezing them right now, it's
Speaker 4: like they're all not gonna make it. And now it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be your thirty five year old eggs and
Speaker 4: that's your potent eighteen year old ones.
Speaker 3: Are people just like are people just genetically I guess
Speaker 3: predisposed to having like some people just have more eggs
Speaker 3: from the beginning, or like there's not a certain amount
Speaker 3: of eggs a human has, right, so you could you
Speaker 3: could just genuinely be born with a low egg count
Speaker 3: or is it ever low and it or just suddenly decreases.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other factors involved, like health and all
Speaker 3: those things.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yes, So it just decreases over time. So we
Speaker 1: all start with a pretty good amount of eggs, and
Speaker 1: then over time we just lose more and more. Like
Speaker 1: by the time we have our first period, we're already
Speaker 1: down a ton, and so we lose them over time.
Speaker 4: But like you're saying, but you're you're losing eggs even
Speaker 4: before your first period, no, which is trash.
Speaker 3: So like I was losing I was losing eggs at ten.
Speaker 1: It's like literally and it like I can't remember the
Speaker 1: exact number, but like literally, as we're aging, we're already
Speaker 1: losing eggs, like we're born with all the eggs we
Speaker 1: have quite literally born with, and then by the time
Speaker 1: we have our first period, we're already down a ton.
Speaker 1: But that's why we're always so skeptical, like, oh, how
Speaker 1: are these teenagers getting pregnant so early? Because they're supposed
Speaker 1: to because genetically that's how they're just like right, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so right right, because I don't know that, but not
Speaker 1: supposed to.
Speaker 2: I don't because.
Speaker 4: Not figured it out.
Speaker 1: You're fertile as fuck right now, like this is why
Speaker 1: it's happening. But but yeah, I think like just seeing
Speaker 1: those girls, it really helped me to see like I
Speaker 1: have to create a space for black women to know, like, girl,
Speaker 1: you need to at least just see where you are,
Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes we don't feel like that's a
Speaker 1: possibility for us to even just know where we are,
Speaker 1: or we just don't want to know, or we assume
Speaker 1: like I'll be fine, like my mom was fine, so
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, And that's not always the case.
Speaker 4: Okay, get your eggs checked together.
Speaker 3: Will you hold my hand when we get the results? Yes,
Speaker 3: well you want me some eggs if I need them.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're lacking in the egg department, my love,
Speaker 3: I think you are. You are a Jamaican egg holder.
Speaker 4: I was thinking that that maybe I have a too many,
Speaker 4: maybe you have your teenage eggs still. But that's another
Speaker 4: thing that I learned, is that because one of my
Speaker 4: friends got her eggs checked and then she she was
Speaker 4: saying like hers are good but not great, or like
Speaker 4: how are the amounts or the quality of it, and
Speaker 4: the doctor was telling her they could be great today
Speaker 4: six months from now, those motherfuckers could be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's there's no way.
Speaker 1: To little fear, I know.
Speaker 4: And that's why it's like maybe I understand like not
Speaker 4: knowing just but also we have the and this is
Speaker 4: not the piece but kind of the pieces that we
Speaker 4: already have experienced that we have one child. So for
Speaker 4: someone who has had not had any children, and you know, right,
Speaker 4: and you know, it is empowering, and it is like
Speaker 4: and we are like like about the eighteen year olds going,
Speaker 4: but I'm like, if we were born into money and
Speaker 4: they're born to money and their money, they would be like,
Speaker 4: of course we're going to the dentist today. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't have to, but you can, you know, it's just.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you can't.
Speaker 4: Do you want your eggs reserved? Your eighteen year old eggs?
Speaker 1: Come on, come on lad, right, right, let's just fifteen
Speaker 1: k you know, let's just do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's super expensive and it's and that's another thing.
Speaker 4: It's also very like kind of trying on the body. Right,
Speaker 4: you have to administer yourself shots, you have to see
Speaker 4: the doctor every day or every other day, like you
Speaker 4: have to go to the doctor's office every other day.
Speaker 4: You're and so you have to commit and then I
Speaker 4: got all these other things right, And it can take
Speaker 4: like six weeks, it can take two months because they're
Speaker 4: testing your eggs cont hopefully if you have a good doctor.
Speaker 1: Wait to get tested, you have to do all this
Speaker 1: or to actually freeze freeze.
Speaker 4: Okay, well to freeze you have to start looking at
Speaker 4: the eggs and getting the healthiest eggs. So they have
Speaker 4: to monitor you. So in order to do that, do
Speaker 4: have a significant amount of time. And then you have
Speaker 4: to do all these things, these hormone shots to up
Speaker 4: the eggs and make them the primest eggs. And so
Speaker 4: that may take one month, that may take two months.
Speaker 4: Like you think I'm the FIA, I know. I'm like,
Speaker 4: are you the fertility pressure?
Speaker 1: I had one?
Speaker 4: I had, So I just had this conversation. I was like,
Speaker 4: who fucking knew? I had no idea. Everyone's talking about
Speaker 4: like freeze and eggs. I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 3: Even in tail?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Is she gonna for hear it? So wait, let's talk
Speaker 3: about the pricing because I've always I'm always at like,
Speaker 3: is it I mean, obviously this is a privilege if
Speaker 3: you can do something like this in ways right, can
Speaker 3: you Is there any way to put this on insurance?
Speaker 3: Is there any way to like, are they things you
Speaker 3: can get around this? Because like, what are the options
Speaker 3: for people that don't have just fifteen thousands of fifteen
Speaker 3: thousand dollars of disposable income to do something like that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 3: Get a sugar daddy, can't image one? Get a sugari
Speaker 3: step one, Get a sugar daddy, step two.
Speaker 2: But no, but no, it is super expensive.
Speaker 1: It's fifteen thousand dollars. It's like the average price in
Speaker 1: the US. Most insurances don't cover it, which is so trash.
Speaker 1: But most insurances make you qualify as infertile before paying
Speaker 1: for any type of fertility care. So what a lot
Speaker 1: of people do is they find jobs that cover this care.
Speaker 1: So the health tech company I work at, we work
Speaker 1: with employers to make sure employees have a fertility benefit.
Speaker 1: So what a lot of young women have been doing
Speaker 1: is getting like part time jobs at big tech companies
Speaker 1: or Starbucks. There are different like small companies where you
Speaker 1: can work for them even part time and they have
Speaker 1: that fertility benefit.
Speaker 2: At Starbucks you can do that.
Speaker 4: So you gotta have work part time at a a
Speaker 4: company that believes in your fertility to be able to
Speaker 4: avoid the fifteen to twenty five thousand.
Speaker 3: Wild So, like when you do get tested for infertility,
Speaker 3: what is that process, Like, what.
Speaker 4: Do you have to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's called Oberian reserve testing, and it's a
Speaker 1: blood test, simple blood tests that they do, you know,
Speaker 1: when you go to the doctor, and they'll look at
Speaker 1: like three different things. So typically they'll look at like
Speaker 1: your follical stimulating hormone, your anti malarian hormone, and your
Speaker 1: estrogen and all of these hormones together tell the doctor
Speaker 1: like how many eggs you have left. So that's what
Speaker 1: they do to kind of assess like where you are in.
Speaker 4: Time, so you don't have to like go to a
Speaker 4: certain time of the month.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so you do have to go on day
Speaker 1: three of your period.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So typically what they'll say is yeah, yeah, they'll say,
Speaker 1: call me as soon as your period starts, and then
Speaker 1: when your period starts, they'll have you come in around
Speaker 1: day three and they'll do the testing. But everybody doesn't
Speaker 1: have a normal period, so it creates like all types
Speaker 1: of of like trouble for people to have pcos or
Speaker 1: you know, other endocrent conditions. People that you know don't
Speaker 1: have periods at all. It makes it really hard. Or
Speaker 1: a lot of women have been on birth control for
Speaker 1: twenty years and they're like, oh, I still get my
Speaker 1: period because you know that month I take the white
Speaker 1: pills or the last week I take the white pills,
Speaker 1: that's my period. And I'm like, no, it's not a
Speaker 1: real period, like it's a withdrawal blead. So a lot
Speaker 1: of people aren't getting periods, so they don't really know
Speaker 1: when to go, but typically it should be on day three.
Speaker 4: Does having an IUD or some kind of implanted or
Speaker 4: even being on regular birth control, does that affect the testing?
Speaker 1: Yes, so that does affect the testing. And what most
Speaker 1: doctors will do iud's they leave am in. Now they
Speaker 1: used to take them out first just so they can
Speaker 1: get like an accurate number. But what they'll do now
Speaker 1: if it's an IUD, they'll let you leave it in
Speaker 1: and still run the test. But if you're taking birth control,
Speaker 1: they'll typically ask you to stop for a month and
Speaker 1: then come back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about a non hormonal birth contry, Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you find Does that affect copper?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the copper doesn't also affect the count.
Speaker 1: No, so copper ruds are the best option because they
Speaker 1: don't have any hormones, so your body can actually give
Speaker 1: a real result. Yeah.
Speaker 4: One time, one time at story one time, one of
Speaker 4: the other soccer moms told me that if my periods
Speaker 4: are short.
Speaker 3: You're never gonna let this bitch live this down about
Speaker 3: this she's been thinking about this for two years. But
Speaker 3: when she told me, I was I was like, bitch,
Speaker 3: what I told you?
Speaker 4: I was like, you think that's true?
Speaker 2: And then you made me man.
Speaker 4: She told me that if you have because I generally
Speaker 4: don't have a very long period, like maybe five days.
Speaker 4: Now that I'm on this copper iud, I feel like
Speaker 4: the periods are kind of a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like five days is pretty average.
Speaker 4: But anyway, she told me, the shorter your periods are,
Speaker 4: I means you have less X.
Speaker 1: That is not true. My came out she was people
Speaker 1: just be saying ship.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she was projecting.
Speaker 4: How do you feel about birth control? Because I know,
Speaker 4: like there's currently most there's a lot of talk about help.
Speaker 4: Birth control you know kind of alters your decision making
Speaker 4: because your hormones are being regulated, and like who you
Speaker 4: choose a partner and things like that, and just being
Speaker 4: on a long term you know, hasn't really been No
Speaker 4: one really talks about the long term effects of being
Speaker 4: on birth control, and like wait, and then recently our producer,
Speaker 4: our producer told me that it was terrible, and so
Speaker 4: I just got off birth control.
Speaker 3: Bad idea, but.
Speaker 1: Not r told you.
Speaker 4: All around that. I'm like, fuck birth control. You're right,
Speaker 4: it's it's poisoning me. It's poisoning me. But like, as
Speaker 4: a fertility doctor, what do you recommend as a like
Speaker 4: what is your go like, what do you use as contraceptive?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So I got off birth control a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago because I do want to be pregnant soon.
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing with birth control is that it
Speaker 1: really can alter your hormones. It can alter like a
Speaker 1: lot of your micronutrients in your body, and it does
Speaker 1: affect like your mood, your behavior, everything. But I think
Speaker 1: that in today's society, with so much like attention around abortion,
Speaker 1: you know, some people can actually get a felony, you
Speaker 1: can go to jail. I think that if you're in
Speaker 1: a state where people are really monitoring you, and if
Speaker 1: you get pregnant, like the worst will happen. You absolutely
Speaker 1: need to be on birth control, like, no questions asked.
Speaker 1: But however, if you know, like I do, want to
Speaker 1: get pregnant in the next five years, you know, even
Speaker 1: if you don't necessarily have a partner, I do think
Speaker 1: it's important to just give your body a break, especially
Speaker 1: if you've been on it for like ten plus years.
Speaker 1: You want to give your body a break to see,
Speaker 1: like are my cycles even regular or has this birth
Speaker 1: control been masking my period? So I think it's important
Speaker 1: to give your body a break so you can get
Speaker 1: like the right testing done so you can really see
Speaker 1: where you are. Because if you're in a good place,
Speaker 1: then you can say, Okay, in a good place, I'm
Speaker 1: not really ready to get pregnant right now. I'll start again.
Speaker 1: But I think it's important to like have a plan.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm all about. It's like fertility planning or
Speaker 1: family planning, because I think it just kind of saves
Speaker 1: you a lot of stress down the line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was reading this statistic and it was that
Speaker 3: it was like forty eight million couples are struggling with
Speaker 3: infertility around the world.
Speaker 2: I was like, forty eight million.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so that brings me back. That's what I
Speaker 4: had a question about. Thank you the doctor in San
Speaker 4: Diego who did the studies about the environment. What were
Speaker 4: the findings, Like, is there somewhere we should live that
Speaker 4: maybe we'd have better chances? Is it in the water, Well,
Speaker 4: there's been studies about like fish in the stream that
Speaker 4: are are like the streams that are being let out,
Speaker 4: like because there's so many pharmaceuticals in this in those
Speaker 4: like the water, there's definitely there's studies of fish turning
Speaker 4: from like male to female.
Speaker 3: I remember I remember hearing that.
Speaker 4: So if that's happening to small you know, small animal like,
Speaker 4: it's definitely changing our you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and her findings really did show
Speaker 1: that things from our environment really do impact our fertility,
Speaker 1: especially especially in couples that present it as like subfertile.
Speaker 1: So these are like people that are otherwise healthy, but
Speaker 1: she can't really figure out why they can't get pregnant
Speaker 1: or their markers are just a little bit below normal.
Speaker 1: But it did show that it's not just right create
Speaker 1: But no, but it was it was true. It was true.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it, but no, it showed that, you know,
Speaker 1: especially like plastics heavy metals, you know, mercury. All these
Speaker 1: things really were impacting like the outcome of their treatment cycles.
Speaker 1: And what she would do, which I thought was brilliant,
Speaker 1: was that instead of saying like living a box, living
Speaker 1: a cube, which is unrealistic, she would do like a
Speaker 1: detoxification protocol, which was like a thousand dollars per person.
Speaker 1: This is another privilege.
Speaker 3: What's a detox vacation protocol?
Speaker 4: And should we should we just be doing that once
Speaker 4: a year just for learning an Americans.
Speaker 1: In general often do you do it a year for
Speaker 1: the detox?
Speaker 4: And also is all this pollution? Is it population control?
Speaker 1: Wait? What is detox?
Speaker 2: What did you call it?
Speaker 1: It was a detoxification protocol that she would do.
Speaker 2: Wait is it a vacation?
Speaker 1: Now? That was some good ass whatever.
Speaker 4: That's not that's not that is a that's nelly, that's
Speaker 4: some strong gas.
Speaker 1: She can't hear. She's like, what is a vacation?
Speaker 3: She said, a detox vacation protocol?
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say too, but your eyes
Speaker 1: have been like gitting lower.
Speaker 4: She passed it to me.
Speaker 2: I was like, we need to put that out.
Speaker 4: That was like, that's that's something for saying this feeling
Speaker 4: like like fourteen she God, we might need to put
Speaker 4: the rest of is on Patreo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, sorry, I'm awake.
Speaker 4: I just I'm here in present.
Speaker 3: I was just focusing on every syllable that you said.
Speaker 4: It's just it's one word.
Speaker 1: Trufication, Like damn, what kind of it's a fast and
Speaker 1: dollars right, and she heard.
Speaker 3: But how long does that detoxification last? I mean, how
Speaker 3: like is it once a year and then you're good?
Speaker 3: You're like, or you have to do it many times?
Speaker 3: Is it like a series of detoxification?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing it over a six month period
Speaker 1: because it was for research studies. So what we would
Speaker 1: do is modify like the diet of course, so making
Speaker 1: sure that you're having more cruciferous vegetables, which are just
Speaker 1: like dark leafy vegetables that bind toxins and help you
Speaker 1: excrete them. We would do like supplements to help you
Speaker 1: also excrete, and then like sauna therapy too, super simple,
Speaker 1: so not anything that was like very expensive, but because
Speaker 1: she is the doctor, like using her time, it was expensive.
Speaker 1: But what really stood out to me was how the
Speaker 1: only people that could get it were people that could
Speaker 1: afford that you know what I mean, Like, and there
Speaker 1: aren't only white women or you know, other brown women
Speaker 1: that need this care. There are other women that also
Speaker 1: need to have this type of care. But who has
Speaker 1: an extra thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: To say, yeah, just detoxing from the air that I
Speaker 4: have to bring.
Speaker 1: Just let me just see. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it'll work, but let me just see. And that's
Speaker 1: why I really wanted to start the Fertility Advantage, to
Speaker 1: just kind of start throwing shit out there because I knew, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't see everybody at this clinic. I know people
Speaker 1: don't want to pay this money, but how can I
Speaker 1: get this information out to my girl? So I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start making posts about it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'll see if it helps. And you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people start reaching out like, oh shit, that's
Speaker 1: what was wrong with me, you know, or this small
Speaker 1: little thing like helped make a big difference. So, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, it's unrealistic to think that you can just
Speaker 1: block yourself from everything, but you can like make small
Speaker 1: little changes in your day to day to help like
Speaker 1: optimize your chances and things like that.
Speaker 3: What is your I guess maybe experience or knowledge on IVF,
Speaker 3: because usually that's kind of like the next step after
Speaker 3: you've decided that you know, conceiving you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: I guess naturally is not in the cards for you.
Speaker 3: And so you're now going into IVF And I have
Speaker 3: had a friend, a distant friend that did it, So
Speaker 3: I don't really know like all the details, and I
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of it's almost like mystery around
Speaker 3: what it is and the process and the like how
Speaker 3: you feel throughout the process. So, yeah, what is your
Speaker 3: knowledge on that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, So that was a big part of what
Speaker 1: I did in my previous job or supported my supervisor
Speaker 1: in that role, and that's what I do a lot now.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing with IVF is that number one,
Speaker 1: your insurance can cover it. So if you have been
Speaker 1: trying to have if you have been trying to get
Speaker 1: pregnant for a year and you've had no success, this
Speaker 1: is like unprotected sex for a full year, that will
Speaker 1: that would like classify you as infertile. What Yeah, so
Speaker 1: basically that was infertile. I'm infertile, right, and that's under
Speaker 1: thirty five. If you're over thirty five, it's six months
Speaker 1: of unprotected sex, I'm infertile. Wait, if you're over thirty five,
Speaker 1: it's six months of unprotected sex and not a successful pregnancy.
Speaker 4: That would be Why does the window get shorter when
Speaker 4: you get older.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because, like again, as women were born with
Speaker 1: all the eggs will ever have, and so at thirty five,
Speaker 1: that's when researchers see that they start to see that decline.
Speaker 1: So that's why they give you that six month window
Speaker 1: to say like, oh, so you have you need to
Speaker 1: go get tested.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, basically, but that only gives you twelve times
Speaker 3: to be like prove because right, because it's not like
Speaker 3: today that you're not get pregnant, right, like yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Typically like a five day like fertile window. Okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but typically the good thing is that oftentimes IVF can
Speaker 1: be covered. And what a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: is that, yes, there are like one in eight couples
Speaker 1: that suffer with infertility, but ninety percent of the cases
Speaker 1: can be solved through science, so things like IVF and
Speaker 1: so with IVF and that's just in vitul fertilization, what
Speaker 1: they do, just like what your friend did, is that
Speaker 1: they do put you on medication to really force your
Speaker 1: body to create far more eggs than you would in
Speaker 1: a cycle. And then they retrieve those eggs. They can
Speaker 1: fertilize it with your partner sperm or a donor. You
Speaker 1: don't have to have no man. They could fertilize each
Speaker 1: egg with sperm and then it'll create embryos over the
Speaker 1: course of like five days, and then you would actually
Speaker 1: freeze the rest of the embryos and then transfer once
Speaker 1: to your uterus. And then that's the entire process. It's
Speaker 1: about twenty five k How.
Speaker 4: Much is this, Yeah, and the transfer has to be
Speaker 4: a certain like a certain day. You had to do
Speaker 4: all they do all the shots, and then on a
Speaker 4: certain special day then you go and then they put.
Speaker 1: You to sleep, right exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So the cool
Speaker 1: thing about IVF is that if you froze your eggs
Speaker 1: in the past, you don't have to go through the
Speaker 1: process again. You would just use the eggs you already froze, so.
Speaker 4: You don't have to you don't have to go to
Speaker 4: the process of first retrieving them and then implanting them.
Speaker 4: You can just go ahead and and just for the implantation,
Speaker 4: do you have to like give your administer yourself shots
Speaker 4: to increase your chances.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So with the shots, which is so important.
Speaker 1: That's something that a lot of people don't really like
Speaker 1: is that when you do the process of maturing your
Speaker 1: eggs for retrieval, you do have to give yourself between
Speaker 1: like one to four shots per day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot, and have to be refrigerated, so
Speaker 4: if you're at work or something, have to be in
Speaker 4: the refrigerator and it has to be the same time
Speaker 4: every day.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: So if you're driving, no matter what.
Speaker 1: Your stomach, yes, stomach, it can be like stomach, thigh
Speaker 1: or but yeah, and that's it's typically for like two weeks.
Speaker 1: Some of the drugs are oral, most of them are injectable,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you do that for two weeks and then
Speaker 1: after that that's when you get ready for the surgery.
Speaker 1: So in your egg retrieval surgery, you are put to
Speaker 1: sleep by an antisesiologists and while you're asleep, the doctor
Speaker 1: actually uses needle aspiration to lightly suction each one of
Speaker 1: your ovaries and then remove all of those eggs. You
Speaker 1: are completely asleep, but it is as painful as it.
Speaker 2: Sounds, go into your vagina and then they pierce.
Speaker 1: Through the wall on each side with a needle with
Speaker 1: a needle.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and so then I'm sorry. Then what happens
Speaker 3: They retrieve the eggs.
Speaker 1: So they go through the vaginal wall and say there
Speaker 1: on the left side. There, they're pierce through the left
Speaker 1: vaginal wall. Then they'll pierce through your ovary. And then
Speaker 1: what's really cool is your ovaries have these little follicles
Speaker 1: in them, and the follicles are just like little tiny
Speaker 1: fluid filled sacks that contain your eggs. And then the
Speaker 1: needles just go in and suction each egg so they
Speaker 1: get all of them from one side, go back in,
Speaker 1: pierce through the other side. How can they see do
Speaker 1: the same thing again? So yeah, it's all under ultrasound guidance,
Speaker 1: so they know where they are when.
Speaker 3: They're and then so once those eggs are gone, they
Speaker 3: then and they then insert the fertilized eggs.
Speaker 2: Right, Is that how it works?
Speaker 1: Right, So they'll retrieve all the eggs and then there's
Speaker 1: an embryologist in the room at the same time, so
Speaker 1: they'll be like a doctor like right here or surgeon.
Speaker 1: Then the embryol just will be right behind them because
Speaker 1: they have to pass those eggs to them, and then
Speaker 1: what they'll do is they'll take them to a lab
Speaker 1: fertilize it with sperm immediately, and then over the course
Speaker 1: of five days, little embryos or little babies start to develop,
Speaker 1: and that's what you freeze. And that's what you freeze.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and most people transfer one of them fresh,
Speaker 1: so it typically takes five days for them to develop.
Speaker 1: And then most people will transfer one fresh or some
Speaker 1: people will freeze them and then send it off for
Speaker 1: like further genetic testing, so you can like test it
Speaker 1: to see if it has genetic mutations or chromosomal abnormalities.
Speaker 1: You can see if it's a girl or boy, all
Speaker 1: types of things. And then you and so when you
Speaker 1: are so I didn't realize this.
Speaker 3: So when you have in vitro, you're actually implanting, I guess,
Speaker 3: and already.
Speaker 1: Started up started up, ye, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I mean five days, I didn't know, Like, I don't
Speaker 2: know why.
Speaker 4: Because it's bigger, so it's easier to implant, yeah, to retreat,
Speaker 4: like to because it's a little bit easier to bigger
Speaker 4: to work with exactly.
Speaker 1: I have a question.
Speaker 4: When you peer through the vaginal wall to retrieve the
Speaker 4: eggs and then have to rego back to fertilize it.
Speaker 1: What is that? Is that not?
Speaker 4: I mean I can imagine that's not great for the
Speaker 4: uterarian wall?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so the vaginal wall. Most people will say
Speaker 1: they feel like like vaginal pain, cramping and bleeding. But
Speaker 1: the doctor doesn't have to go beyond your cervix, so
Speaker 1: they're not in your uterus. They're kind of still in
Speaker 1: your vaginal canal. So luckily they don't go through your
Speaker 1: cervix into your uterus.
Speaker 4: Okay, because like the ovaries on these sides, right, so
Speaker 4: it's kind of like going off to the diagonal, not
Speaker 4: going exactly right, so.
Speaker 1: Make a curt of left right here, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Right exactly instead of going And that's why it's piercing
Speaker 4: because there's tissue okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if they had to go through the cervix,
Speaker 1: it would be a much longer recovery.
Speaker 3: What are the chances of you not being able to
Speaker 3: retrieve the eggs, like going under this procedure and then
Speaker 3: it not being able to that's real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like is that a possibility?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: And what's the like statistic on that?
Speaker 1: Is it high?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's typically higher for women that are closer to forty.
Speaker 1: But the good thing is that that's why that testing
Speaker 1: is so important, because sometimes when you do the testing,
Speaker 1: the doctor can say, Okay, I'm gonna be honest, we
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of eggs on ultrasound. That's the
Speaker 1: only way they can see them at first. It's through
Speaker 1: a transvaginal ultrasound. So they'll say, we only can see
Speaker 1: about four eggs. So it's highly likely that when we
Speaker 1: go in for the surgery, we only retrieve immature eggs.
Speaker 1: And you have to start from the beginning. That does
Speaker 1: happen quite often, honestly. So that's another twenty.
Speaker 3: Five k You got to start from the beginning, Oh,
Speaker 3: because that's you don't get to try twice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why my feminement it's also really important that
Speaker 4: you go to a good doctor, because you know a
Speaker 4: good doctor is going to make sure that they're doing
Speaker 4: everything in their power in the in the like right
Speaker 4: before the surgery, like asking you to come in every
Speaker 4: other day to test your eggs and see the consistency.
Speaker 4: Because she said she knows people who will take that
Speaker 4: money and not have made it the best chances and
Speaker 4: the best eggs possible because maybe they don't want to
Speaker 4: meet you every other day or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: They're part of the process.
Speaker 2: You have to do that.
Speaker 4: Well, that's this is why these conversations are important, because
Speaker 4: you may not know you're just giving over this money
Speaker 4: it's expecting. Yeah, duh, you would do that if you
Speaker 4: know you can. But some people, you know, if you
Speaker 4: don't know the questions to ask, you don't fuck it. Hell,
Speaker 4: and so you should. You know, that's somebody. It's good
Speaker 4: to vet your doctors, and it's good for us to
Speaker 4: have these conversations and not feel shame around them because
Speaker 4: this is the only way we'll find out. I literally
Speaker 4: only know this because she told me.
Speaker 3: I only know this because of this conversation. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why I'm going through a range of emotions because.
Speaker 2: I'm like what, huh, huh what?
Speaker 1: And it gives you like I feel like so many
Speaker 1: people don't know that, Like science really does help solve
Speaker 1: ninety percent of cases of infertility, and so many people
Speaker 1: don't know that. And I think especially black women, like
Speaker 1: we were talking about before the show, like there's so
Speaker 1: much shame around like oh I can't do it myself.
Speaker 1: That means something is wrong with me, And it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that anything is wrong with you. It just means
Speaker 1: that you might need a little bit of help. Your
Speaker 1: story might just look a little bit different, but it's
Speaker 1: still normal. I think sometimes it's like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: have a baby the normal way, and there is no
Speaker 1: normal way to have a baby. Like whatever way you
Speaker 1: have to take is your way. And sometimes IVF is
Speaker 1: that way, or IUI or serrogracy or adoption. I think
Speaker 1: sometimes people don't want to like expand their definitions of
Speaker 1: motherhood and so they just feel very limited, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what do you think about like using like
Speaker 3: homeopathic medicines for infertility? Is that I mean, and I
Speaker 3: hear you say that the science is ninety percent effective.
Speaker 3: There's people out there that are like, I'm not I
Speaker 3: don't want to get my eggs injected. I don't want
Speaker 3: to do this, I don't want to do that. Is
Speaker 3: that also in your opinion?
Speaker 2: Obviously?
Speaker 3: I think yes, with science, you it's there's one thing
Speaker 3: between putting a whole needle up inside your ovaries sucking
Speaker 3: some shit out versus eating well and taking certain herbs
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be. You know, obviously, like
Speaker 3: science is what we were talking about urgency and efficiency.
Speaker 4: Urgency. Everything is urgency.
Speaker 3: Urgency versus nature's medicine is going to take some fucking time.
Speaker 3: But have you seen women in your practice, like I
Speaker 3: guess go that route or like try to marry the
Speaker 3: two or what does that look like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's how I got into the space is
Speaker 1: marrying the two. I think marrying the two is important
Speaker 1: because you want to have the appropriate testing done to
Speaker 1: see if it's even a possibility. So I think, first
Speaker 1: if you know that your hormones are okay, and doctors
Speaker 1: also need to do that transpagion ultrasound to see how
Speaker 1: many follicles you have on each side, you want to
Speaker 1: make sure there's no fibroids or polyps like blocking the
Speaker 1: place that the baby would try to implant. You want
Speaker 1: to do like testing to make sure your fallopian tubes
Speaker 1: aren't blocked. I think once you know that those things
Speaker 1: are okay, then you want to try to incorporate more
Speaker 1: like you know, like you said, homeopathy or naturopathic medicine
Speaker 1: or functional medicine. I think those things are important, but
Speaker 1: as a naturopathic doctor, I'm still saying it. I think
Speaker 1: you still want to know that you're okay first, because
Speaker 1: you would hate to be eating eight cups of broccoli
Speaker 1: and Filippian tubes are blocked. Why did I just eat
Speaker 1: on this broccoli.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna it's not changing. That's not going to
Speaker 4: do the true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, when when your eggs are traveling
Speaker 1: down at Filippian tube, the sperm has to get through
Speaker 1: to meet the egg and create that embryo. So if
Speaker 1: your tubes are blocked, no amount of nutrition is gonna
Speaker 1: reverse that. So I think like marrying the two to
Speaker 1: me is so important, especially as we get well into
Speaker 1: our thirties.
Speaker 4: And understanding like identifying exactly what may or may not
Speaker 4: could be the travel but instead of aimlessly just like
Speaker 4: I'll be fine eating drinking herbs. Yeah yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 4: I says thirty five your old women? Do you like
Speaker 4: if you ideally had an age for women to start
Speaker 4: during this process? But would be your suggestion?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say thirty five. I think like thirty.
Speaker 1: I think when you get thirty and you're maybe you're
Speaker 1: not partnered at thirty, but you know you o a family.
Speaker 1: I would say this is a good time to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, let me just get this testing done,
Speaker 1: because the initial testing is not that expensive, Like the
Speaker 1: initial testing is typically between like one fifty to three
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, and that's like even like Beverly Hills. I
Speaker 1: feel like the most expensive place I saw here was
Speaker 1: like four seventy five and that includes like the imaging,
Speaker 1: the blood tests, and so some people think it's really
Speaker 1: expensive and it's not. And sometimes your insurance will even
Speaker 1: even identify that as preventive care. So having that testing done,
Speaker 1: even your obguim might do it, so then that way
Speaker 1: it's covered. But I think at thirty, if you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: these niggas is trash. I don't have nobody I really like,
Speaker 1: but I know I want a family. Let me make
Speaker 1: sure I'm good so that when I am ready, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm good to go, rather than just kind of waiting
Speaker 1: it out, you know and unfortunately having a harder time
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean I guess that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dc.
Speaker 4: Have you seen a lot more women decide to take
Speaker 4: agency over there, you know, their family planning, you know,
Speaker 4: even in single like single I know, like the more
Speaker 4: women be professionals and you know, it's just more, it's
Speaker 4: more you know people are doing it more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like most of my calls are
Speaker 1: single parent family building, which I think is so fire Like,
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing because sometimes we rush into relationships
Speaker 1: that we know might not be great because we're like,
Speaker 1: I really need to have a baby. You're not my choice,
Speaker 1: but I really want to have a baby. And I
Speaker 1: love that single parent family building allows you to say like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a baby. I really want a baby,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead and have a baby, and
Speaker 1: if I meet someone, great, but if not, I still
Speaker 1: have the family that I want. So I do see
Speaker 1: far more white women doing it then I see black women.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't know if that's just the demo
Speaker 1: at my job, you know, but I do see a
Speaker 1: lot more women taking agencies. There's so many, like Facebook
Speaker 1: groups of women building communities all around, building families by themselves.
Speaker 1: And you can literally do that by finding a sperm
Speaker 1: donor somebody you know who you cool with, or you know,
Speaker 1: actually going to a donor agency and finding someone and
Speaker 1: you can do like inter uterine insemination or at home
Speaker 1: insemination just to start your own family and it's not
Speaker 1: as expensive.
Speaker 2: Man, I think that I hope that.
Speaker 3: My hope is that a woman that makes that choice
Speaker 3: is getting her tribal in line. I really hope so,
Speaker 3: because yes, it's it's I understand this, and I have
Speaker 3: the privilege of having a child, so like I can
Speaker 3: sit here and say this right, and I'm aware of that.
Speaker 3: But I think also because I have one, I really
Speaker 3: understand how important It's not just the want and need
Speaker 3: to have a child, but like, do you have the
Speaker 3: community in place, the circle in place to help support
Speaker 3: and raise that child and support yourself because this shit
Speaker 3: is not meant to be a one person job. It
Speaker 3: really truly isn't, you know. And so do you have
Speaker 3: like other like men or whatever and your family that
Speaker 3: are going to step up and be and hopeful be
Speaker 3: that obviously ship listen, people have partners and it doesn't
Speaker 3: work out and they're you know, out here alone as well.
Speaker 3: But I will say, if you have the luxury of
Speaker 3: even going through this process like it, get your tribee.
Speaker 4: This is not this is not a one person job,
Speaker 4: like for real, like at all, like honestly, like having
Speaker 4: a boyfriend.
Speaker 3: I realized that I'm like, you know, if you could
Speaker 3: have like if you can have the most ideal situation.
Speaker 3: That is the about It doesn't mean like you have
Speaker 3: to have a nigga, but just like make sure you.
Speaker 4: Have people who are going to show up for you
Speaker 4: and the like. Have you like give you breaks because
Speaker 4: you need to have other people like a lot of
Speaker 4: other people.
Speaker 3: You need real you need that God mean about three
Speaker 3: godmoms to god dads, two grandparents, your parents?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's important.
Speaker 2: What about you? Like personally? What is what is I mean?
Speaker 3: Do you have you frozen your eggs? Like?
Speaker 2: Is this something? Have you gotten your eggs tested?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: You get a discount because you're working this shit?
Speaker 1: Can you discount code? We'll put it on Patreon exclusively.
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Speaker 1: We got anx check. How about you when you say good.
Speaker 2: Moms, watch now the ad is going to be fed
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Speaker 1: Because there's so many, so many at home tests too.
Speaker 1: But my employer covers it. Okay, yeah, so that's the
Speaker 1: only reason I'm able to do it. But it is
Speaker 1: something I have to do this year. I was putting
Speaker 1: it off, I'm like, Okay, so you haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet, but my goal is to
Speaker 1: do it this year. I prefer to do it at
Speaker 1: home in Georgia where like my mom and sister are
Speaker 1: just so I have support throughout the process and after
Speaker 1: my surgery, because you do have to have someone there
Speaker 1: with you after the surgery. But it is definitely something
Speaker 1: I want to do because I do want to have
Speaker 1: a family, and I just don't know when it's going
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I think that I was
Speaker 3: just thinking, like God, I mean, either way it's gonna
Speaker 3: it's It can be challenging whether you're partnered or not.
Speaker 3: I mean, and it doesn't necessarily even if you're partnered,
Speaker 3: me and that person's going to show up the way
Speaker 3: that you want them to anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that can sometimes be more devastating. You're in
Speaker 4: the house with someone that you don't feel supported by,
Speaker 4: sleeping next to someone you don't feel supported by, and
Speaker 4: the resentment, you know, that agitation grows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, And I think like
Speaker 1: having a choice, I think that's what to me, that's
Speaker 1: what I see egg freezing as it's like giving like
Speaker 1: giving yourself agency to say, like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: might not use these eggs. I actually might you know,
Speaker 1: meet somebody, get pregnant, not need them. But I want
Speaker 1: to have the choice, you know what I mean, in
Speaker 1: the future, and I get to see it in my
Speaker 1: everyday life, so I know that it's a very real
Speaker 1: thing that I have to pay attention to. But yeah,
Speaker 1: to me, just making sure that I am set up
Speaker 1: in the future if I do need it.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for all this information. I
Speaker 3: feel a lot more educated on it and feel like
Speaker 3: I need to dive almost deeper. I'm like, I need
Speaker 3: to see a picture of these little implants multiple on
Speaker 3: Google and weird deep divers. Yeah, I want to see
Speaker 3: the surgery, like I want to see like there's got
Speaker 3: to be some videos.
Speaker 4: Well for sure, I can. I can imagine it in
Speaker 4: my head, like I want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many. Yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 4: Okay, one last question. Okay, do black women over thirty
Speaker 4: five have a higher chance of having multiples?
Speaker 1: Ooh, good questions?
Speaker 3: A fact.
Speaker 4: I saw it as a fact, that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I haven't seen that, but but
Speaker 1: I do know with certain procedures, certain things you do
Speaker 1: do increase your risk of multiple So like if you
Speaker 1: were to do like inter uter insemination at a clinic,
Speaker 1: so that's where they just like inject the sperm through
Speaker 1: your cervix, that does increase your risk of multiples. But
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it like a black women specifically.
Speaker 4: I saw I saw a statistic that black women have
Speaker 4: higher chance like you, no, like, like our chances of
Speaker 4: having multiples after thirty five are like increased significantly.
Speaker 2: And nobody got time for that, now, ain't nobody at
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Speaker 3: important for black women to see other black women doing
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Speaker 3: don't have options and that there's something wrong with you
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Speaker 2: If that's what you show, so true. So I appreciate.
Speaker 1: I appreciate all that you do. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, So you can find me on Instagram at
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